>DUDE IT'S SO MUCH BETTER NOW, THEY TOTALLY TURNED IT AROUND
>ok did they fix any of the problems it had at launch
>uhh no
explain this phenomenon

>>713420050 (OP)
i played at launch
a lot of launch problems have been greatly reduced or fixed
i don't know what you're talking about
people bought it because sean is basically british indie todd howard and oversold his in-house game engine and effective tech-demo game that the PS3 could run, but if you had reasonable expectations going into it and you like the loop of going system to system looking for a literal perfect planet to your specifications, since it's likely out there, it's the quintessential exploration game
if what you want, great
some systems lack depth, but if you're seriously bitching about a game that is now almost 10 years old and still receiving free updates that adds new content when it could be a sims 4 scenario and we'd have to pay 5 bucks every 3 months for office furniture, you're being unreasonably entitled.
also, if you want realism, feel free to play elite dangerous and be bored out of your fucking mind by day 2, or star citizen, and be broke by day 1

>>713420513
People who liked it at launch but understood it had problems, I'm fine with. I didn't like it but it's a matter of opinion.

People who shat on it at launch but praise it now? I don't understand. Probably just redditors bandwagoning le (((general consensus))).

If you didn't like NMS at launch at all, there's no reason you'd like it now.

TEST

>>713420609
Because they're the one (singular, only, unique) exception of a game company / game developers who actually did what was the right thing and kept improving and fixing the game to make it good instead of just taking the money with the project, shutting down, and going off to work on some other slop to which consumers will not hold them accountable (except for a tiny minority of a minority) or care at all?

It's a remarkable tale and they deserve praise for it. /v/ is filled with too many low IQ types and cynics who don't understand the absolute most basic concepts of game theory and would gladly shit on people who are at least trying to do the right thing because they "didn't do it good enough" not realizing the reason why they live in a shitty, low trust society is entirely because of their own fault.

It's been almost 10 years anon. Have you legitimately been seething all this time?

I pirated it at launch, it sucked. I bought it when the multiplayer update came out. It's a chill exploration and building game now.

>>713420050 (OP)
>turn cool exploration game into generic survival crafting sim
I actually liked the release version. People were just upset because it was promised to have multiplayer when it didn't, but then they fucked it up by adding generic multiplayer instead of the "semi-isolated" multiplayer that was promised, where you could run into people out in the universe but not just join a lobby like it's an mmo.

The greatest trick that No Man's Sky pulled was tricking other developers thinking they can turn it around after a disastrous launch instead of just getting it right the first time.

>>713420050 (OP)
This game is basically Minecraft but with Unity assets.

>>713422775
They deserve praise but that doesn't make the game good.

>>713422902
I really fucking hate how it's now basically Space Engineers but with a fugly muddy soul-gas art direction

>>713420050 (OP)
some youtuber made a video about how it was engoodened and everyone accepted it, since it's not like anyone played the game. same thing happened with cyberpunk a few years lator

public opinion in the current era is based on whatever is the trendy internet content at the moment

>>713423161
This

>>713420050 (OP)
marketing
people still try to say cyberpunk is good and was fixed

>>713420513
this
played at launch, knew what i was getting into, still enjoyed it
enjoying it even more now
though i still have only two complaints
>can only reach planets, not stars
which is fucking retarded for a space exploration game, they should add stars and refueling using stars like you can in ED
>gunplay
holy shit the gunplay in this game is still fucking ass, it lacks any sort of fluidity
it would be a 10/10 game if it had shooting like Destiny 2, Warframe or even CoD
it just feels so wonky and instead of focusing on adding more content they should focus on fixing combat and adding more enemies, like sentinel controlled races and bigger land battles
but i doubt it'll ever happen

>>713422902
>>713423151
you're both wrong

>>713429150
Well go on, we're listening.

EDIT: wow 2 hours and no response, lmao what a faggot he's run away

>>713429514
you're both faggots

The key advertised feature for me was the the closer you get to the center of the galaxy the more bizzare the planets and aliens get. I know release didn't have it but does it now?

>>713420050 (OP)
I just hate that, although there's supposed to be 50 gorillioin planets, it's still impossible to exist in a massive, unexplored area.

>>713429837
no of course not.
IT GOT BETTER THOUGH!!! THEY LE TURNED IT AROUND!

>>713420050 (OP)
The words
"Wide as an ocean, Shallow as a puddle" come to mind when i think of NMS.
It has no real gameplay just a constant loop. The building is retardedly shallow and the story is so bad it was predictably lame.
They have spent a lot on marketing and gaslighting content creators to push "WE FIXED IT DOODS!" for their next game as a way to fool people again.

They also spend a little bit to shill here every time it gets an update.

>shoot with your laser pistol at rocks to collect minreals
>do this for several hours
>congratulations, you can now upgrade your pistol and shoot it at bigger rocks
>repeat

I hate anyone defending this pile of fucking shit

>>713430590
you just described every open world survival crafting game ever anon
some people just like those type of games

>>713420050 (OP)
retards need a reason to save face for falling for a scam; either the ones that fell for it before launch or the fools who saw the shitshow and still fell for the follow up excuse that everything was fixed after the fact.

>Recently had another universe wipe and reboot, destroying millions of home planets in the process
>No sign of development finally ending at any point

All they are doing is burning bridges if they don't wrap it up and move on soon. Nobody wants to play a game like this that comes with a guarantee that your homebase will be corrupted data at some point.

>Start up NMS first time lately.
>After all the news about how good it is I'm expecting it to make my screen ejaculate fairy dust that makes me fly like Peter Pan
>I just appear on some planet
>Game is nagging me to make oxygen
>What? I don't even know the controls yet
>Try to fly off in space ship
>It doesn't work. Need to mine stuff. Why?
>Get out and find some oxygen rocks about 15 seconds before I die of hypoxia
>Look for a trainer to give myself resources or unlock something fun
>Can't get them working
>Quit game

No Man's Sky fucking sucks. I hope Cyberpunk 2077 won't be the same when I finally get around to playing it.

>>713430528
honestly the biggest retards were the people that expected a small indie studio to make some grand randomly generated planets with cities and what not
what they achieved is still impressive and have added depth to planets with updates, with settlments, the invisible robot faction, newer biomes to planets, newer creatures, etc
idk what is there to fix really? its a simple exploration/crafting game
be honest and tell what do you expect from a game such as NMS?
the only real complaint i see is this >>713426704 and its true that shooting sucks

>>713430789
holy kek, no wonder the mainstream AAA games cater to retards when people like you exist and are (sadly) a majority of players
kill all subhuman low IQs

>>713420050 (OP)
initial target audience gets pissed and moves on.
game pivots to new audience, who consider it great.
since review scores went from crap to great, onlookers assume the game was "engoodened".
same shit with Cyberpunk 2077. millennials who saw the 2013 teaser were pissed and moved on. the game found a new zoomer audience who would have loved it at release too and now onlookers assume it was engoodened.

>>713430789
If you can manage to navigate the main menu and create a character without getting tangled up in the controller cord, you should be able to enjoy 2077.
I played it for the first time recently and thought it was excellent. It probably takes a little less brain power than the problems you encountered in NMS so I have faith you can handle it

>>713430852
>make up obvious nonsense before release
>everyone with half a brain calls bullshit
>uh, it's actually impressive what they managed to accomplish after blatantly lying, i don't even know what there is to fix

>>713430789
Imagine being bad at fucking No Man's Sky. Guess NMS is no the only place where you struggle with breathing huh.

>>713426704
Honestly we just need starfield with no mans sky exploration.

>>713431069
still didnt explain what you want/expect from a game such as NMS?
also i dont defend false advertising and agree 100% it was shit, but everything that was promised in those pre-release lies has been added now (WHICH DOESNT EXCUSE THE LYING) but the game has those and even more features now

>>713431125
NMS sky is the reason I'll never be able to play Starfield. Even with the lame characters and sterile woke shit, it probably would have been a top game for me if there wasn't a superior space game for my to play again. Every single time. I put an hour or two into starfield and then install nms

>>713431125
ideally it'd be something like a mix of Elite Dangerous/Saarfield/No Man's Sky
if done right would be the most kino space game to ever exist (which is why it will never exist)

>>713420050 (OP)
The core game changed to a survival game when I last played. I guess it was a logical choice for them to go with since the elements were there, but that's not my thing, so I stopped playing.

>>713420050 (OP)
>explain this phenomenon
They watched that one Internet Historian video and feel sorry for the devs

>>713430852
>honestly the biggest retards were the people that expected a small indie studio to make some grand randomly generated planets with cities and what not
Mount & Blade did it. It's one planet and there's no random generation, but it's huge and allows for a ton of interactivity. And it started as an indie studio.

>>713431437
>apples = oranges
great take anon

>>713431437
>one measly planet and horse guys
cool nonsense post blud

>>713431567
As opposed to one measly planet copy-pasted over and over and NO content whatsoever

>>713423161
It's funny how the same guy shat on Starfield, even though it's a far better game.

>>713431606
you are comparing two different things retard

>>713431504
>>713431635
Just saying indie devs can make huge things with tons of content if they're smart about it.
NMS absolutely could have delivered on its promises. It didn't not because "le small indie team pls understand", but because of incompetence.

fuck off retard

in all fairness it is better, but if you didn't like it at launch you won't like it now.

>>713431652
actual brain dead retard
you're probably the retard that couldnt get past the tutorial >>713430789
you're comparing two games that arent trying to achieve the same thing which your subhuman brain apparently doesnt compute

>>713430789
Cyberpunk 2077 would've been a renter if you could still rent games. Its over in like six hours, nothing in the game is repeatable, there's no random encounters or procedural content at all to stretch it out. May as well watch a movie instead so you never have to know the pain of grinding for an OP katana only to realize there's nothing left to do with it because it trivializes the game even on the hardest difficulty and its nearly over content wise anyways.
>>713430852
>honestly the biggest retards were the people that expected a small indie studio to make some grand randomly generated planets with cities and what not
That wouldn't have actually been any more difficult than what they actually did in the final product. Its a design choice to focus on minecrafty planets to facilitate collecting token to get prizes with, which is all crafting systems really are. That's why people hate NMS. They expected a space game and got bargain bin nintendo's generic minecraft knockoff instead.

>>713430789
Nigger unlimited resources and spawning in selections of your choice is a default option before you start a game.

You are an actual braindead gorilla.
You spent all that time researching a mod for a feature that's built into the fucking game.

>>713431807
>That wouldn't have actually been any more difficult than what they actually did in the final product
then why did no one do it?
why didnt MS bethesda with the funding they have managed to have that? they didnt even manage to have a proper planet to planet flight
you clearly have no idea what you're talking about and no experience with gamedev

>>713430590
This was my experience. I played too long at launch to get a refund cane back to it many years later and its still just shoot rocks: the game.

>We're going to make the galaxy in a game!
>It's just an empty galaxy with nothing in it but watching number go up!
all you need is mars and earth, and some moons and asteroids thrown in, you fuck sticks. you could fit everything there is to explore in Star Citizen, ED or NMS into our solar system. you could fit all of it into a tiny fraction of the earth.

>>713432132
I'd have been happy with this if it had a tradewinds buying / selling aspect to it. That's all I ever want from space games but no one seems to think that's fun.

>>713432247
have you played Starsector?

>>713431916
>then why did no one do it?
Same reason Bethesda didn't. Creating a procgen system that can make huge, lavish environments doesn't fit any of the popular industry standard business models. They consider it a waste of time and resources when they know its easier to retain players with arcade token collection systems and prize booths. Mostly because these companies are beholden to wealthy boomers who use to manage casinos and arcades.

This is why the space game genre is terribly cursed. It inherently requires time and money spent on aspects of the game companies deem a waste of resources in every other genre.

>>713432132
Go play a normal game if you want that. Real space games with interplanetary politics and realistic stories are possible.

>>713430789
>>After all the news about how good it is I'm expecting it to make my screen ejaculate fairy dust that makes me fly like Peter Pan
That's a you problem.

>>713431739
>he can't read
Ok I'll repeat myself then:
Just saying indie devs can make huge things with tons of content if they're smart about it.
NMS absolutely could have delivered on its promises. It didn't not because "le small indie team pls understand", but because of incompetence.

fuck off retard

>>713432334
I haven't, thanks for the recommendation. I'll try it, but I still want to be able to get out of the ship and walk around. Honestly, everything about NMS would have been exactly what I was looking for if it had the economic side down.

>>713420513
>Build wall: Wooden
zzz

>>713432247
desu a lot space games are just trading sims
Elite Dangerous comes to mind as well, you can do trading, transport, combat, mining, etc.
NMS also has trading but its not very fun
Endless Sky is a free open source game that also has trading, transport, etc

>>713432568
well then I guess Elite Dangerous is your thing, but you will need the Odyssey DLC if you wanna walk around

>>713432373
And you'll never get any of that if you divide the playerbase by millions of equal planets. You'll never get it if everyone can do FTL, and you'll never get it if the main mechanic of player retention is having them grind bots like it was a singleplayer game. I kind of hate the convoluted logistics mess of Foxhole, I'd rather have it be largely automated, but it's still a better world than any of these space sims.

>>713432619
>>713432672
Thanks I may try out elite dangerous then.

bought it at launch, was a simple survival game but passed the time
tried it recently , they've over complicated everything. i don't even know what the fuck the game is now. is there a game?

>>713420050 (OP)
They need to add women and alien women

>>713432864
They think that
>BLINKING ICON IN THE HUD!! You're missing this resource!!! Obtain it!!!
is gameplay.

>>713432762
>Implying multiplayer
Fuck that. The X4 games show us how it's done.

>>713430651
most survival games actually have survival mechanics and building shit is for the purpose of being able to survive and not just for nothing or to have more storage for your useless minerals

>>713432762
Nigga you wouldn't want a ton of players clustered together all larping at eachother, trolling in a desperate bid to get viewers on youtube or twitch, griefers trying to stream snipe them (deserved,) everyone screeching like the souls of the damned in local comms trying to make their faggot friends in discord laugh, retards unironically roleplaying obscure star wars characters. You think you want it but you fucking don't.

>>713420050 (OP)
>>ok did they fix any of the problems it had at launch
>>uhh no
>explain this phenomenon
The problem they had at launch was no multiplayer, no focused content, and no real use for landing on planets other than gather fuel.
Now there is multiplayer, they have expeditions, multiple story campaigns, pretty robust base building, and a colony building mode.
What fucking part of that is not fixing any problems it had at launch?
The phenomenon is called OP being a fag again.

>>713430852
>honestly the biggest retards were the people that expected a small indie studio to [do what they promised, especially after doubling down and flaunting Sony money to say they could get it done]
So true, that's why the only non-retarded thing to do is ignore all the shills that keep trying to push the game to this day and call what they achieved "impressive"

>>713420609
>If you didn't like NMS at launch at all, there's no reason you'd like it now.
There wasn't base building at launch. Now there is.
There weren't ocean planets before, now there are.
You couldn't build a base in the ocean so deep that light couldn't penetrate the sea. Now you can.
Simple as really.

>>713433323
Achkshually I didn't give a shit about multiplayer, I wanted content and for the game to look good (crazy high expectations for your reddit mind: a game?? GOOD??? YOU'RE LE EXPECTING TOO MUCH!)
There was no content at launch and there is no content now. The graphics are also horrendous while requiring a very strong PC

>>713433416
>You couldn't build a base in the ocean so deep that light couldn't penetrate the sea
The lighting is so fucking bad you could build a base on the surface right in front of the sun, fill it with copies of the one singular shitty lamp the game has, and it'd still be darker than a black hole.

>>713420050 (OP)
this game is the definition of a polished turd, the core gameplay is absolute dogshit since release just shinier

>>713433426
>Achkshually I didn't give a shit about multiplayer,
Doesn't matter. OP was talking about launch issue. Promissing and not delivering multiplayer was one of the biggest launch issues.
I don't really give a fuck about your subjective opinions, OP is objectively wrong and I'm correcting him. Feel however the fuck you want about the game and have any opinion you want, you're entitled to it even if we all know you'll never be a woman.

>>713420050 (OP)
I played it after buying into the “BRO IT’S SO MUCH BETTER NOW” hype and it was so fucking boring. The most boring fucking experience of my life. I just want to be a space pirate :(

>>713422775
cybergoonk did it too

>>713422902
>into generic survival crafting sim
Buddy minecraft invented the genre, please remember shit right

>>713420050 (OP)
i now remember that there's an MMO planned from the same devs, i'll add it to my riot mmo cuck chair waiting list

>>713433467
Works on my machine, and doesn't change the objective fact that the initial statement was incorrect.

>>713422902
that's my biggest issue with the game
i wanted it to feel like a solo adventure on strange planets with lost civilizations
not like grunt miner doing check list shit to buy better gear

>>713433187
this is proof you havent played the game

>>713433126
I guess. Imagine if every player in Elite: Dangerous could build their own base like in an RTS, but the maximum size would depend on economic factors so that if you want to grow bigger than a remote outpost, you have to be near other players. Player civilizations would group up and grow outwards like the suburban sprawl, but they'd still be free to form new clusters.

>>713433275
If the game has both vast empty nothing and clusters of players, I don't see the problem. I'd even make the casual side of the game free to play, where you only queue up to fly a fighter like in ED. With no cost to the player owning the actual ship, and with filters that lets the owner decide the skill level of those joining his ship, decided by some relative rank - if you wanted to filter out everyone except the top 10 players, you'd be free to do so.

>>713431807
>Cyberpunk 2077 would've been a renter if you could still rent games. Its over in like six hours, nothing in the game is repeatable

did you only play the main quest and skip all of the dialog because how the fuck did you finish it in 6 hours on your first playthrough?

>>713433603
>Literally an entire space pirate expansion.
>Pirate systems.
>Colony ships to raid and take over.
>Pirate fleets to build.
>Illegal goods smuggling.
>Entire category of ships locked behind pirate storyline.
>Gaym is shye gays, I'm just want want to b abl 2 do w0t u cOn do in da Gaem!

>make shit game where all you do is shoot rocks
>OMG THIS GAME SUCKS
>add cars
>UHHH BEST GAME EVER! ENGOODENED STATUS: FULFILLED
lemmings

>>713420513
Damn you cooked that retard. NMS definitely isn't for me but I've played a seasonal character here and there and everytime I get on the game is somewhere between 100-200% better and significantly less buggy than the last time I played. Multiplayer still has some desynch issues but at least I'm no longer shooting my own ship when flying forward. Game is a solid 8/10 and better than anything else like it period. Would recommend to people who like Sandbox and space. Wouldn't recommend to people who have adhd like me.

>>713433882
>ships locked behind storylines
that's like only selling teslas to someone who has personally sucked elons lectures or something. im not going to sit through your bullshit story just to play a SANDBOX GAME HOLY FUCK ARE YOU RETARDED

>>713433947
Okay, so just to make sure, you're saying that the only complaint people had, was that you only shoot rocks, and the only thing the patches have added so far, is cars?

I’m more concerned about the new game their working on.

>>713434042
>>ships locked behind storylines
>a game item locked by game progression
you truly are a retarded faggot
go back to your gacha games

>>713434107
why do you even respond to mindbroken retards that havent even played the game?

>>713433765
>i wanted it to feel like a solo adventure on strange planets with lost civilizations
This is also what I want. If you want to make an actual good space game the star of the show has to be the environments. You can't half ass procgen and scene generation like Starfield and NMS. If you can't suspend your players disbelief visually an interactively with the environments, the game is a complete failure far as I'm concerned.

>>713434107
Im being hyperbolic but yes one of the major complaints was that people thought they were getting Sean Murrays game where "You can do anything!" and instead its a game about zapping rock.
Im also being hyperbolic but the essence of my statement is true, the same people who felt betrayed that Sean Murrays "You can do anything game" was actually a rock zapping sim somehow came to the conclusion that the game had been completely fixed when superficial and meaningless additions were patched in, such as cars and basebuilding.
Remember people thought this game was Massively Multiplayer, and to this day the most people you can get is like 30. Remember day 1 when Sean was still pretending it was an MMO and went all "WOW 2 PLAYERS ACTUALLY FOUND EACHOTHER" in reference to 2 players being on the same planet in their single player games?
Is it dumb to expect the Joe Danger guys to make a universe "do anything" simulator? Yes, but its even dumber to say "They fulfilled all their promises" when half of Seans lies remain unfulfilled.

>planets are just waves of generic assets and the same 5 resources with a few common ones thrown in
>planets are just forgettable quick stops so you can mindlessly loot everything
>all procedural generated animals are godless abominations
>combat in every way is easy and retarded
>the game trips over itself to give you free shit including relics worth millions, freighter ships, and settlements
>half the features are still awaiting a proper update, settlements JUST got one so they weren't completely useless
>fucked UI from launch, shitty planets from launch, horrible gameplay loop from launch, ugly animals from launch, bad story from launch, boring lore from launch, can barely do shit with your ship beyond upgrades, less pois than fucking starfield
>it's totally fixed
Most people who say it's fixed just watch the pretty trailers and go on reddit to scream for other devs to take notes. And the people who play this are demented. I've been told by legitimate fans that sometimes you have to play 300 hours before it gets fun.

>>713434315
>hey captain, we could board this pirate ship if you talked with this particular homosexual pirate that always happens to be in the next starsystem regardless of where in the universe you are
not only is it retarded it also breaks immersion.

>>713434312
>velheim with shared global progression and seamless multiplayer that will die after everything is discovered 11 months into the release
Sounds fun on paper, but I think it will be most fun in the first few weeks where nobody knows what the fuck is going on.

>>713434461
i don't mind proc gen, it can make some pretty and cozy planets
i just hate being another guy trading shit
like if everyone is discovering and strip mining planets
why do i even matter

>>713430789
Retard died at the tutorial part lmao

>>713430852
Instead of making new dumb content where you grind out for some shitty new gear or system that barely does anything they should increase the depth of the current systems. It's not a good sandbox when there's honestly nothing to do except collect worthless shit. Probably one of the shallowest tech trees I've ever seen in a survival game. The combat is atrocious and sentinels spawn forever unless you run in a building or hide in a hole. 90% of the game is still shooting rocks with a laser. Upgrades you get barely ever make it better or more interesting.
I dropped the game when I completed the main story and reset the universe, only to find the game now wanted me to grind mats to repair ALL the modules on my ship and space suit. It's just anti-fun, fuck all my upgrades I guess the only thing they could think to do was make you earn all the shit you already earned a 2nd time. People are okay with this?

>>713434723
Hello Games has solidified themselves as an anti-player company so it doesn't really matter what they do. It will wipe your progress regularly because they will play leapfrog with featurebloat until it forces a change in procgen equations.
It's dogshit game development that expects customers to pay for a playtest phase disguised as a full release.

>>713434993
It's weird how I got all these replies about dying at the tutorial. Mainly because I actually said I got the oxygen before I died, meaning I passed it. But also because there is no tutorial in NMS. You're just dropped on some planet with nothing but the game nagging you to get oxygen.

>>713434386
Because I find it entertaining to bait them to respond with their borderline retarded responses, while they think they are actually intelligent as with >>713434597
It's a guilty pleasure and I can't help it.

>>713435258
i think its strange that HG still hasnt patched out that a new players first planet may or may not have oxygen
>BUT THATS PART OF THE EXPLORATION
Its been a complaint since launch that brand new players are dropping onto planets where the clock is ticking as theyre figuring out what left mouse click even does

>>713435025
>should increase the depth of the current systems
Fucking this. I have more fun playing Daggerfall than NMS. NMS is truly the most definitive example of "wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle". I added no upgrades to my ship and was able to kill one of the sentinel big ships that appear after you've pissed them off for 10 minutes. I find some new mechanic in a new colored system and it ends up being the shitty settlement one that costs more than it's worth. Then it's just random quests for guilds while I quickly exhaust the list of possible planets. My God how cheap exploration feels. 20 planets in 3 hours and they're tapped out of all the fun I can possibly get from them is not normal and doesn't deserve fucking praise. Never played a game that cheapened space exploration so badly.

>>713435381
kek
based, keep going anon

>>713435381

>>713435396
>its strange that HG still hasnt fixed thing players complain since launch
Yeah, so strange.

>>713422775
>>713433627
You accept this as the status quo, which is why 90% of today's games are barely functioning pieces of shit that take 2 years to fix after nobody cares anymore. At least Minecraft was unique and creative when it came out. Nowadays lazy faggots cannot even copy and paste games right.

People are retarded, thats it. You throw enough shit at people who love eating shit and they will ignore any and all core problems with a product.

>ok did they fix any of the problems it had at launch
>uhh no
They did though you dishonest nigger

>>713435594
>Minecraft was unique and creative
Uh-huh. Revisionism is rampant in /v/ these days, but I attribute it for the likes of you being around 8 - 10 years old when Minecraft came out.

>>713435381
The No Man’s Sky controversy reveals a profound miscalibration of expectations, driven by cognitive biases and amplified by ambiguous marketing. Players anticipated a boundless universe simulator based on Sean Murray’s grandiose rhetoric, but received a narrower experience centered on repetitive resource extraction. This disconnect sparked widespread disillusionment.

The subsequent redemption narrative, fueled by patches introducing features like vehicles and base-building, reflects a collective anchoring bias. These additions, though functional, fail to bridge the gap between the promised and delivered experience. Claims that the game has been “fixed” mistake incremental updates for fulfillment of the original vision.

The multiplayer issue further underscores this rift. Early marketing suggested a massively multiplayer framework, yet the reality is a sparsely populated environment with a cap of roughly 30 players. Murray’s initial dissembling—feigning astonishment at two players coinciding on a planet—obfuscated the game’s single-player core.

Criticizing Hello Games, a studio with roots in modest titles like Joe Danger, for failing to deliver a universal simulator may invite charges of naivety. Yet, asserting they’ve fully honored their commitments is a graver error. Many of Murray’s assurances, particularly regarding scope and interactivity, remain unfulfilled, rendering claims of vindication untenable. This saga highlights the dangers of overextrapolation and narrative-driven rationalization.

>>713435801
>minecraft wasnt unique and creative
It might have stolen its base from Infiniminer, but Minecraft was still very much unique and creative, the revisionist here is you

>>713420050 (OP)
It was an ugly stupid game at launch and it's an ugly stupid game now.

>>713435849
>he switched to GPT because now he's insecure about his own intelligence
Just take the L. Or don't. I'm laughing my ass off.

>>713420513
It would be a great game if it had competent combat both ground and spaceship, and had real enemies instead of the incredibly bland and safe shit it's got right now

Just a little bit of edge could add alot to the game but it feels like the Devs wanted to make a tendie game for PC

>>713435849
NOOO NOOO NOOOO!!!!!

>>713435849
nice one ChatGPT

>>713420513
Fpbp

I too played it at launch, I had fun, and it's not a bad game. OP is a flamewarring retard

>>713436000
Jesus Christ my sides

The space genre is just doomed. It needs to somehow provide you unique experiences and assets while also giving you planets worth of content. That's why 99% of space games are actually just spaceship games with you going to stations and bases and focusing on SHIPS SHIPS SHIPS. Every space game is a massive disappointment in multiple ways. And the alternative is something like Mass Effect where space is small and exploration just leaves you wanting as the game focuses on anything but space exploration.

>>713435025
You're playing it wrong. It's a sandbox game. Give yourself the resources you need and play the game to earn the resources you enjoy.
You can expand your base with new sidequests, expand your frigate with new sidequests, go hunt for derelicts, scavange crashed ships for parts, catalog species, freelance contracts for the governments, expand your frigate crew, form a settlement on a good planet, smuggle illegal goods, use legitimate goods to crash economies, hunt for corruption with nav data, hunt for rare stars, hunt for rare shit period with nav data, establish a war outpost near eggs or control towers, MANY OTHER THINGS BESIDES JUST PLAIN GRINDING A RESOURCE.

If you're robotically following orders and getting mad they aren't fun, you're just an idiot.
You talk like someone who hasn't played the game in over 5 years.

>>713420513

>>713435849
>Mdashes
>left the 0 spaces in
man you truly are retarded.
I don't even need to feed this into an ai detector I can just read that you used gpt and copy-pasted.

>>713420609
Ironic post considering the genral consensus is that the game is now perfect and nobody can hate it anymore.

>>713436164
Pretty sure thats why people get riled up when No Mans Sky is mentioned

>>713436097
A truly great space game won't exist for at least another 50 years of technology.

>>713436124
>just make your own fun bro
sign of hack developers

>>713433841
He probably watched a speed play on YouTube that got edited and cut down and thinks it's the same as playing a game like most other gen alpha and zoomies

>>713420050 (OP)
>>ok did they fix any of the problems it had at launch
yes

>>713436124
Building a capital city onboard your frigate is also fun.

>>713431807
>Its over in like six hours, nothing in the game is repeatable, there's no random encounters or procedural content at all to stretch it out.
I refused to give them my money when the game released broken, so I don't know, but I have to assume this take comes from people who played day one and rushed the story because it couldn't be more the opposite to my experience in 2025. I'm 95 hours in, haven't finished the story and still have an almost daunting ammount of side content in my journal. Now there's a big update coming out this week

>>713436124
NTA but each of those features are shallow and not fun. Catalog creatures? You mean find a deer with the body of a hippo and the legs of a dog and stand there and scan it to learn its name is Xillophagomuhdicksuck and, like the 15 other animals I scanned it is nocturnal, eats rocks and is young? Hunting for anything is either you spamming systems and planets or just being pointed where to go. War outposts and settlements? Real fun defending those when the combat is ass and the encounter types are mostly the exact same. And it's like this with every feature. It feels hollow and repetitive. I have more fun finding word stones and unlocking more conversation with the bird aliens.

>>713436324
Not what I said, you illiterate fucking retard. You aren't human so of course a game about living in space doesn't appeal to you.

>>713436445
Hold on you can build a dreadnought now? It was only starfighters when I last played

>>713420513
THE ENGOODENING OF YOUR MOM
It was a pile of trash when it came out, are you really shilling for an incomplete mess at release day?

>>713434897
Its not the procgen itself that's bad. That isn't really what I mean, its the visual details like extreme weather. I remember playing Battlefield 4, I think, on that one map where a hurricane rolls in on the island chain. It wasn't just visually striking and convincing, but affected the gameplay how you'd imagine a hurricane actually would. That's the sort of detail and environmental reactivity a space game absolutely needs to work. Even in space itself, which is far from the boring void people think it is. There's stuff constantly going on everywhere, solar winds, plasma filaments, interstellar objects and micro debris. Its only 'boring' within the protection of earth's magnetic field.

NMS's base gameplay is the same boring shoot laser. The planets are all the same too.
They added a lot of systems since then but everything is only surface deep and any attempts to go a little deeper into the systems and you'll find you reach the end quickly.

Overall it's a very shallow game.

>>713422775
>singular, only, unique
Hardly, scores of indie developers do this, and if it's the only one you know of then the scope of your knowledge is limited indeed.

>>713436734
That just reminds me of how many times I encountered a weather condition in NMS and it always led to "hide somewhere". It just became an annoying way to tell me to stop having fun or go dig underground for a bit. The frequency and mediocrity of it just annoyed me, like the demons they added in minecraft to make you go to bed. I did like the wandering plasma, that I could at least dodge around or watch it from afar.

>>713436453
That's not physically possible unless all you do is RP walk around using the vending machines, farming the respawning gangoons and fucking around with photo mode.

>>713436097
It's quite impossible for anyone to make a space game that does everything due to the limitations of game developers and engines. Every space game has to have a compromise somewhere in order to make it work and to have a playable game. Someone who wants to empire build wouldnt be concerned about walking around a planet or visiting a space city and vice versa, people cant get everything in one game and that's fine.
Scifi games and space games are a huge risk because they require way more time and work compared to fantasy games and sell less, it's far easier to slap a create a character in a grassland and call it a day.

>>713436124
Most of that is just the same aimless busywork. The basebuilding isn't that much fun and there just aren't that many interesting or functional things you can add to it. Even subnautica has more to do with a base you built. I admit frigates are kinda neat just for being your whole base in a capital ship you can move but it's still the same thing. There's never "resources you need" or "resources you enjoy" because there's never anything meaningful to get or unlock in the game. You're never starving for the money or the meaningless upgrades or awful gear in the game. Scanner cataloging is merely checklist simulator. Settlement basically doesn't do anything interesting.

I'm gonna level with you "sandbox" is code for "we can't do more with the game and you just gotta pretend we did" sometimes it's a cool game like Ark where you carve out territory and develop tech and raise your dinos, or Mount and Blade where you can at least conquer the world and command your troops. Other times it's a game like this where you've seen everything in the first 15 hours.

>>713436951
The weathers in NMS are the laziest, dumbest shit I've ever seen. Like everything else in the games environments. I take a lot of complaint with the gameplay itself as well and lack of interactivity with the environments besides scanning things, collecting digeridoos and space bear asses to make oxygen when oxygen recycling is a thing we have and can do right now in the not future.

>>713436734
I think their next game is gonna be very cool if they took the lessons learnt from NMS and make a cool fantasy world to explore.

Instead of saying
>The game is a lot better because they've added X

I need to see more
>They took X since launch and added more depth/improved it so that Y

People keep talking about all the stuff they've added, but is the gathering of resources any more interesting or do the animals all still look like they were out together from a pool of the same 6 parts with minor variance? Is there more variances in the actual planets themselves? Etc.

I keep seeing "they added" and not enough "they improved".

>>713437248
When I play sandbox games I want interaction between systems. I want to be able to see how far I can go with something. See how I can do a quest differently than before or fuck around with different enemy types. Enemy types in NMS? A rigid pool of enemiew customized for combat and a gajillion animals so procgen'd they lack combat animations and just run away squealing. NMS is afraid to even let you die. Need fuel to travel? There's always asteroids you can farm. Need oxygen or sodium or anything at all? Nearly every planet, even the barren ones, have the same brightly colored resources and most rocks and planets have the same resources.

>>713437528
In defense of the shitty animals, there's no way to procedurally generate skeletal rigs and animations convincingly yet unless you want vid related.
https://youtu.be/ZOHGC0zptGQ?t=17

They could have made them more convincing on the AI and behavior end of things though.

>>713437528
First they introduce something new. Then they let it rot for 5 years. Then they release the IMPROVEMENT UPDATE. I'm still waiting for the gas giant improvement update. Regular flat rocky planets except there's a crazy storm on them! Unique resources? Not really. Unique animals and plants? No. Not surprised but NMS has life on every extreme environment so that sucks, especially when there's nothing else to do on them. Oh but don't worry, Sentinels are still around to bother you.

>>713426704
>can only reach planets, not stars
>>713420513 here
it was an intentional design decision
sean and his team are very transparent about how they were trying to make a game first and a simulator second
in an interview, he said they had play tests leading up to their closed beta where they actually had the planets have orbits around stars, but they found that it lead to high levels of disorientation for many players when planets would move after they left a planet and were trying to heading to the next one, so they made the decision to have the sun rotate around the planets instead
it had the added benefit of making vistas on planets permanent (eg setting up a colony on a planet with another planet/moon in the sky would always have the same sky and therefore always be screenshot ready) and it would end up meshing better with their 1960s/1970s retrofuturism and airbrush space art inspired art direction they'd inevitably converge on anyway (which is why a lot of the items and POIs have sphere motifs, btw)
there's a lot of artistic talent that went into the game that not a lot of people appreciate because the animals sometimes look funny

>>713420050 (OP)
i'm quite happy with the game. though the city update we just got was kinda lackluster. only one building at a time? pass

the gas giants are fun to traverse

>>713438102
>there's a lot of artistic talent that went into the game
It takes effort sometimes. The animals really detract from the game. Even the sentient races are bland. Environments I can appreciate sometimes, depends on the way things get generated. But for me it's the buildings and interiors that really look good. That and any non-procgen animal.

>>713438102
This reminds of that time they brought in soccer moms and their kids to beta test Halo 2 and we ended up with 70 fov and aimbot tier bullet magnetism.

This does not improve my opinion of NMS. Especially since its art direction completely misses that aesthetic like a drunk driver attempting to parallel park and swerves into nintendo games instead.

>>713438416
>Especially since its art direction completely misses that aesthetic
i disagree, but i won't try to convince you senpai

i always think about jumping back in to full fill my ambition of becoming the master of a planet and filling it up with civilization
but it feel like there's always a big update on horizon so i should wait for that

>>713436509
>Pretending there isn't mountains of unique items and companions to find now

You haven't played the game in over 5 years and it's very obvious.

>>713438471
There's plenty of screenshots in this thread. We can all see them. I don't know why you made such an assertion as if we are blind in the first place. Maybe you see that because you want to and that's fine I guess.

>>713438662
I played it again last fall dumbass. Unique items are available in the damn space stations too and they're not impressive. Hell they're not even necessary with how mindlessly easy the game is. The only reward is visuals because upgrades only amount to how much easier do you want the easy game to be or how much more convenience do you want. And fuck your unique companions. I'm actually perfectly fine with normal companions as long as they're not the procgen retarded animals. The ball with eyeballs in it or a giant surface roaming squid are fine with me. You sound like an expeditionfag. No better than a battle pass or season pass gachafag waiting for breezes of good content to motivate you to deal with the rest of the show game

>unironic NMS shilling

>>713436553
Yes it's the real way to play the game.

You can also have away teams escort your fighter or send smaller frigates on expeditions where your occasional input on an event they encounter can yield great bounties and rare items.

For all intents and purposes if you aren't playing as an emperor commanding a fleet colonizing space, you aren't even playing the game at all.

That's how I know all these fags are full of shit and haven't played it in 5 years. Everything they are saying is beyond outdated as something a retard does.

Playing No Man's Sky and getting mad about shooting rocks is like playing Mario and getting mad you can't complete the level because you refuse to jump.

You're suppose to hustle your way to a nomadic kingdom, not wander around shooting rocks.

>>713437656
You are so full of shit. You're describing a build of the game that's over 5 years old.
Anyone believing your retarded posts deserves to be robbed of a good time.

>>713422775
>They cleaned the rim of the toilet after shitting all over the floor
Yeah we should give them a medal.

The galaxy is huge, HUEG, drawback of the game is that it could take you 50-100 hours to get to the endgame.

>>713438719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Q_chMbcAE
whether they've subjectively stayed true to their original intent or not, that was the goal (with 80s pop scifi thrown in the mix), and i'm not going to argue with a stranger on this god forsaken shithole on matters of taste, so you do you

>>713439121
>I like this one way to play
>all the other 95 features are irrelevant to this one thing I'm an autist about
>5 years 5 years 5 years 5 years
Pathetic. Just say you have fun because you like doing this. Don't try to feign being some epic faggot in the corner of a saloon giving out the real secret to NMS. When none of the shit leading up to your one-man RP is fun then fuck being emperor of the godless shit content game. You guys haven't played in 5 years or else you would enjoy climbing a mountain of shit for a breathe of fresh air! Spent the whole thread muttering 5 years 5 years 5 years and unable to make proper arguments just so you can build up the courage to admit you RP?

>>713438976
Oh I see so you finally admit there is actually a lot to do but you're just an anti-shill that has bad taste and schizophrenia. Understood. Carry on.

>>713439016
If Sean stopped telling lies, you would think these retards could too.

>>713439508
You are very bad at trolling if you're typing all that shit to get a rise.

>>713439259
>5 year faggot
You're crying in the rain pally. No wonder cares you FP as some Gurren Lagann fag via a shittily crafted game.

>>713439508
I posted proof of the gameplay I am discussing while you have harped incessantly non-stop about how utterly fucking brainless you are.

Here's a settlement.
It has many unique nuances to the gameplay that incentivizes returning to your home planet from time to time.

>>713439520
>>713439607
>getting this desperate
>just screaming no at this point
No depth. Just like your game.

>>713420050 (OP)
I played it and liked it but it needs something more to do. After I had my farms, made my base and got a fancy ship there was nothing left to do

>>713439795
Actual schizobabble nonsense.
I don't even know what you expect for a response.

How about a picture of my homemade potato wedges?

>>713439860
>unique nuances
>to make you revisit
Celebrating a basic feature? Fucking hell, Fallout 4 settlements have more reason for you to revisit. Those screenshots sure do show nuance and gameplay! I can see the fun right now!

why should I play this over elite dangerous?

>>713438102
>but they found that it lead to high levels of disorientation for many players
so another proof that games are made for retards (majority) like this anon >>713430789

>>713440026
>hasn't had a rebuttal for several posts
>just shitting yourself
>quirky potato wedge non sequitur
The average Sean suckered. Thread's been up for hours, you couldn't pull up a single defense except 5 Years like some Phil Leotardo retard and now you're just resorting to nonsense.

>>713439919
lol you're literally insane and it's funny.

Here's my ship's engineer foreman. He offers unique daily quests for materials that cannot be simply bought at a starport.
Just kidding I actually shoot rocks instead of hiring crew.

>>713440080
Some planets have different sizes of the same rock and each size is it's own species of rock and when you scan it you can name the rock and then someone might see what you named it and have a giggle.

>>713440078
It's a fucking settlement retard. You want to just put one down and then leave? Wouldn't that be shallow?

Your flavor of schizophrenia is genuinely hilarious.

>>713440286
>bragging about the nameless npc that gives you radiant ai quest
Buddy you might as well brag about Skyrim's thieves guild radiant quests that give you bejeweled items. You were really hoping screenshots full of color would shut everyone up huh? The moment you even try to describe gameplay and you don't even realize it's on the same level as Skyrim's shittiest quests. Go on, pull up a picture of a room you decorated. When you find a nuanced recipe for an exotic lamp it really incentivizes you to revisit the room and crafting mechanics huh? For 5 years too I bet. Journo speaking retard.

>>713440229
My rebuttal is posting proof that you are a deranged retard making false claims.
Here's a shot of the frigate selection screen for when you want to issue orders.

You are entertaining me for free right now too. Dance.

>>713440585
His name is Bozoi. The name of your primary crew is based on who you choose to hire at a starport.
Frigate captain names also work that way.

I have no proof because I am lying and out to get you.
I'm in your walls right now actually.

>>713440393
But the indescribable nuance! Why can't anyone get it from this one screenshot? Why does every NMS thread end with the same retarded collapse you're suffering from? Is that what fans of this game are like?

>>713436849
>scores of indie developers do this
name 24 then, should be easy

>>713420050 (OP)
While they did fix a lot the main reason I can't play this fucking game is still the fucking draw distance.
Maybe less draw distance itself, but the lack of any LOD objects for extremely far away landmarks.
There is no point cruising over a planet looking for stuff because you will never, ever see it until you're right on top of it. Forests, giant crashed freighters, trading posts, monoliths, even large rock structures. You will never see them while you're flying at any sort of height.

>>713440936
this is false thoughbeit

>>713432619
this is why I prefer the mount and blade in space kind of games more
which are just starsector and x4
the different between these games and games like elite is that
in these type of mercenary type game you can keep progressing until you become big player in the grand scheme of thing, like your own faction and what not
in games like elite, after you get out of hobo phase there is nothing much to do, you just go do random generated mission/content in the empty sandbox until you are bored
like sure you can do x go y but there is no purpose with all your money beside just buying bigger things
there is no funneling money and resources into war front

>>713440607
>>713440778
>calling other people schizo
>dance
>I'm in your walls
>his name is Bozoi
>lol potato wedges
Alrighty. You enjoy that there NMS. Pleasure talking to you Mr. Whacky. Tell Sean I said hi after you pull the pubes from between your teeth. You....you really won the thread over.

>>713441004
Is it though? Unless they changed something in the past year.
Played it max settings on pc btw. Not Switch or whatever.

>>713440780
Oh the nuance is what you're having another schizophrenic fit about?

The nuances:
>Settlement can specialize in a resource production of your choosing based on the star system and planet you are on
>The quantity of that production is stifled unless you get the population large and happy
>The overseer you appoint will have disputes and decisions with policy you will need to make
>Sometimes a citizen will have a quest for a specific activity
>A fully productive settlement is just free money and resources of your choosing that requires growth to achieve.

Now cry about how shallow it is.
Go on then.

I'm not excited for their next game unless the desync issues get fixed. Game gets noticably buggier when you have multiplayer enabled.

>>713440080
they're two different games attempting to entertain two different, but overlapping, audiences
elite dangerous is a space simulationist's wet dream if you enjoy flying around a 1:1 procedurally generated milky way with highly detailed planetary and stellar simulations (and nothing else, because the end game is boring)
no man's sky is a sci-fantasy exploration/procedural generation sandbox with base building that's charming and weird, but lacking depth in a lot of systems even though it has more systems that elite dangerous
both appeal to exploration players where finding something no one has seen before is a goal, but both go about different ways of achieving that goal
if you don't enjoy traveling in elite, you might enjoy it in nms because nms gives you a bunch of random shit to do in between traveling to different systems
if you enjoy landing on a planet in elite, checking the rotation period of said planet, and watching a binary star sunrise in real time in the middle of a nebula, you will not get that level of detail in nms

>>713441065
>Played it max settings on pc
same, but ive just been able to spot monoliths, portal and crashed freighters from afar, though it does take some getting used to

What breaks the experience in NMS is how easily available everything becomes stripping the fun from survival styled beginnings.
Before i even got first A-class ship i already had free imperial freighter. Gathering resources and achieving permament sustainability became a joke too soon meanwhile quicksilver farming is still a fucking drag. Frigates are send and forget gacha style time sinks, and new settlement system is just another upgrade hole.

I could forgive repetetive planet generator or ship balancing rendering some types useless if they didnt do a fucking fomo bullshit with expeditions that are time-gated glorified skin quests destiny style. At least sell them as dlc's or somethig...

People praise this game for what it became, but if you are searching for last animal of [underground type] on a planet with absurd unhabitable cave systems for 2 fucking days you start to wonder how fucked up game was before. The more you play more you realize this game became big nothing burger with good PR.

>>713441023
NTA but Bozoi is literally a pre-generated name that's been in the game for years, you actual paranoid schizophrenic.
Also it's obvious as fuck you're samefagging. You type like a schizo.

just play subtonica instead

>>713441013
man i really gotta try X4, never played it because it was never mentioned by any space-sim content creator/forum/nor even recommended to me on steam
ive literally recently found about it when looking for a random space game and in the "Similar Game section" i saw X4 and only when I opened it it said its similar to the games I played
seems like everything one would want from a space game, just that not many people talk about it and it seems "harder" to get into
great thing is its on GOG so its practically free

>>713437215
>>713436097
>>713436320
They just need to make Spore again, but with modern gaming hardware/technology and it'd be the perfect space sim.

>>713440080
I'm not gonna lie the one thing this game has going for it is that despite how shallow it is it's actually somehow less shallow than ED which is pretty much just buying shit low and selling it high at another space station or doing dogfight and nothing else.

>>713441186
That's just any settlement function from any game. Fallout 4, Conan, Medieval Dynasty. It doesn't take much to impress you or enrage you apparently. Is NMS the first game you ever played? None of that isn't even deep. That's just a basic settlement.

>>713441639
>Any settlement function
uh excuse yourself, Starfields settlement system is so indepth it could be a strategy game in itself.

>>713441186
>play 60 hours of fetch quests
>now you have a settlement with next to no interactivity and braindead ai "settlers" who just stand around constantly
>"but at least you don't have to do fetch quests anymore! It generates resources for you!"

I can get millions of units within 10 hours of a fresh save since resources are easy as fuck to come by because EVERYTHING gives free money and resources. There's no substance

>>713441192
I don't give a single flying fuck about Light No Fire specifically because of how long so many prominent requests were ignored for No Man's Sky.

Ship customization should not be a new feature almost ten years after release. They have absolutely no idea why people play games like these.

>>713441402
>samefagging
I'm literally replying to only your posts retard. And no one argued Bozoi is or isn't a name generated in NMS. Believe me, you don't have to convince anyone NMS has retarded names. The takeaway was that was something you considered worth mentioning....that an npc has a name. I'm explaining a lot of basic conversational stuff to you. You doing okay? It's really early in the morning to be acting like this.

>>713441448
I refuse to touch anything these kraut fucks make again after X Rebirth. That's about the most burned I've ever been by a new vidya release.

The game is either one update or one big mod from being really good.
There's a lot of systems that are good, but they do need some polish.
The biggest offender is the combat - both on foot and in space.
All the enemy ships circle around you so close, that keeping them in the crosshairs without using the autolock is almost impossble. And when using the autolock the game basically starts playing itself. Freelancer was released in 2004 and got it right - or at least better than NMS.
And the ground combat is just so basic and unfun. Tbh I played it a year ago, but I'm pretty sure there were the spider enemies, and maybe some kind of drone? I don't expect different enemies on every world, but if you're so short on ideas, at least copy the doom roster or whatever. Also the whole system of slapping mods onto a gun frame is underused. It could be cool if it changed the feel of the weapon more, but in this state it's just a matter of finding the highest rating in the shop / whatever looks the least ugly for you.

>>713441871
>ship customization
you mean that tedious shit where you had to repeatedly buy/find and scrap ships to get parts?

>>713441939
qrd?

>>713441285
>Please charge me more money

Please fuck off from the entire planet we are on FOREVER.
Holy shit.

>>713437063
Of course you do those things ya dope. It's an incredibly immersive game just to be in. Tooling around with vehicles is fun too, but realistically there are a fucking ton of sidequests and gigs. You either only played a really shitty early build or you're lying. It has above average side content compared to similar games, both in terms of quality and quantity.

>>713431609
>Starfield - has niggers
>No Man's Sky - doesn't have niggers
hmm

>>713430789
I've seen this post before

>>713441868
You're just making up defamatory that someone can easily disprove with YouTube and Google.
It's funny though so keep going. Do what I tell you.

>>713439860
>>713440607
We've seen these features the problem is they are all just as shallow as anything else
>It has many unique nuances to the gameplay that incentivizes returning to your home planet from time to time.
You say this but it's delusional to act like this stuff adds very much depth to the game. Settlement and frigates are about the same depth as say that fleet minigame in Ass Creed 4.
You're touting passive diversion gameplay as something fun to do. It's just some menus you check up on every couple hours. It gives you things "to do" but no excitement while doing them or many meaningful things to get from doing them. This is exactly why people shit on this game as being shallow.

>>713442147
>do what I tell you
are you a child?

>retard goes quiet now that multiple people are calling them out
Felt pretty confident when you thought the thread was dying huh?

>>713442024
You read whole thing and thats what you filtered out? holy fuck how low you can get brainlet.

>>713441992
X3 was pretty good and had a loyal following.
In 2013, Egosoft put out X Rebirth. As well as being incredibly broken and barely working, even if it did work it would've been a massive pile of shit. Just a terrible, terrible game with no redeeming features whatsoever.
Truly one of the worst games ever made.

>>713442212
nta but what exactly do you want from the game?

>>713423161
Just to be clear this kid didnt watch the video, doesnt know who posted it, and is either regurgitating mindless anon hearsay or even worse watched a video talking about the video.
Anyone who watches it sees where the game and creator are criticized. Anyone who hasnt says word for word what you do, because youre about 5 levels of hearsay away from someone who ever actually watched it.
The worst thing the videomaker does in the whole thing is near the end suggest that because Sean Murray is such an obvious modern urban faggot basedboy like most of you that he wasnt maliciously lying for a long time, but that he was so weak and overwhelmed that he did his little meek smiley "yeah" thing because hes a redditor bitch with zero spine in person. The assesment sounds prettt accurate for his type, dont know if its correct, but that alone is far too nuanced for the shitskinned children here to consider so they just forget the last 50 minutes of video they never even watched and bitch about it with nothing more than a single word "engoodening" which means nothing to them but "Hey theres this game I never played and my entire knowledge of it is I heard a guy made a video saying nothing was done wrong"
Biggest dissapointment of my gaming life, still cant get into it after all the engoodening that it was engoodened with, and yes the game was massively fucking engoodened and youre correct that it still fails to click with so many of us, doesnt change the fact that instead of dropping it they spent like 8 fuckin years adding a shitload of content and mechanics.
Murray should be gassed along with everyone in that image and the entire state they are in, the game was a huge dissapointment and still doesnt do it for me, and they absolutely engoodened their complete turd of a game.

>>713441963
>Game never had any form of personal ship customization
>Add coloring and part options that require you to still search for unique ships throughout the galaxy
>People can still find 1 in a million ship designs that aren't just a recolor
>Boo hoo tedious waaaaah

Just go play a different game faggot. Fortnite seems more your speed.

>>713442358
I see
but from what I saw X4 seems to be pretty well received and as I said its on GOG so theres a DRM free version of it

>>713442429
He's trolling and mentally ill. Literally every feature you could propose to him will be met some form of oversimplification followed by the word "shallow"

He cannot pleased. That's his primary goal.

>>713442608
>have billions of units and nanites
>can't just customize my ship
>have to do tedious fetch quest for parts I want
>if you don't like it it's not bad starship game design
>j-just leave! play something else!
retard in shambles

>>713442963
>have billions of units and nanites
>Can't figure out how glyphs work

Retard cremated.

>>713443082
Does using glyphs suddenly eliminate having to buy/find starships? I mean that's maybe 5-10 minutes just to find the specific ship you want. There's community resources that tell you where to find each part but you still have to do the grind.

>>713442963
How would you know what parts you want if you haven't found them?
How is scanning each system for parts a "fetch quest"?
Who is telling you to go do it?
Where are you delivering it?

Why don't you use portal glyphs to go where you know you'll find your precious parts?

>>713443331
Not telling. I'm smarter than you.

>>713443423
you need to be 18 to post here

>>713442429
>nta but what exactly do you want from the game?
nta but I usually expect gameplay from a game
they added a ton of superficial bullshit
they just didn't add any actual gameplay
but then again there are a ton of brain dead idiots wasting their lives away coolecting and crafting and jumping from planet to slightly different planet that's essentially the same, doing the same 5 actions over and over and over again

>>713442963
if you have billions of credits, getting ship parts is as easy as going to the correct system that has the part family you want, buying a c-class from an npc at a station/outpost, and scraping it
you're complaining about a solved problem
you can also just cheat. even cheated saves are multiplayer compatible if you really don't want to engage with the games mechanics that badly

>>713442429
A tech tree that goes deeper than 3 tiers of side grades.
The combat to not suck so bad that none of the upgrades and weapons feel like they aren't worth getting anyway
More things to put in a base that actually do something
The entire game's shallow dialogue not trying so hard to be the most philosophically cryptic reddit nonsense
Just more complex systems in general. I don't have a problem with the things anon is showing off, but they don't save the game from being a snore. Expanding a frigate is probably the only somewhat fleshed out thing in the game so I can't blame him for clinging to it.

>>713442963
You actually can just buy parts right at a starport from the ships coming. It's no different than getting a starting set of pieces.
It would make no sense to give the player every possible variant of part right from the start. A big part of that entire system is tied to the rest of the progression and ship stats.
You want free baby mode easy parts immediately and that's ludicrous.

The idea you can get that much wealth and not have found the parts you are looking for at a starport is also total bullshit.

Literally every criticism of NMS at this point can be explained as someone being too fucking stupid to do something the correct way and getting mad at their own braindead solution.

BUT THEY'RE A SMALL TEAM WITH AN AWKWARD NICE GUY AS THE STUDIO HEAD! PLEASE UNDERSTAND!

>>713443815
You can be big or small, shit feature design is still shit. Stop excusing them

>>713443794
>>713443739
>ship with part you need doesn't fly in immediately
>have to either stand there or reload until it does
I'm sorry what's the solution, looking at your phone because it's a boring game?

>>713443331
You have always had to buy and find starships since NPCs existed.
Glyphs will let you teleport straight to a star system you know has the shit you want. It's like typing in a cheat code, which is what you are asking for if you don't want to PLAY THE GAME and PROGRESS

>>713443485
I was just fucking with you. Got you good.

>>713444024
Haha now he's just pretending glyphs and nav data don't even exist.

>>713420050 (OP)
I never understood the hype for this game, or any space game that does the whole realistic shit, the universe is shit and empty of course its going to be boring as fuck to imitate that, I don't want realism or infinite scale I want a well crafted set of planets with interesting npcs and story

>>713444092
>I was just fucking with you. Got you good.
yea you're underage or a manchild either way it's hilarious you think teleporting to the system you want removes the tedium of standing at the starport waiting for the ship you need

>>713444013
NO, PLEASE UNDERSTAND! I JUST STOOD UP ON STAGE SHOWING YOU MY SHY HUMBLE NICE GUY SMILE ON SONY'S E3 CONFERENCE TO SHOW YOU MY WALKING SIMULATOR IN SPACE RIGHT AFTER THEY REVEALED BLOODBORNE PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AS PROJECT BEAST FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER!

>>713444274
>land in star system with the part you need
>still need to stand around for parts to show up by chance on the space station
>"maybe if I ignore the point he's making I can keep acting smug"

>>713420050 (OP)
numales

>>713443703
exploration, building, crafting, and and decorating is literally the gameplay
no one bitches about minecraft doing the same thing
disregard if you think minecraft is shit too ig
>>713444024
>you can wait at a species specific station/outpost for the ship you need
>that's tedious
>you can buy charts to find parts you need and go to a system who's dominant species preferred ship type is that you need, it's faster
>that's tedious
>you can literally just cheat them in, it's the fastest and no one will stop you or levy a ban against you
>
>>713444330
>nms
>realism
choose one and only one, unironically

>>713443765
The capital ship is a mobile homebase. I don't cling to it, it's intentionally the top tier of functionality you can achieve.
To ignore it or not base everything you do around it, is retarded.

>>713444651
do you do a lot of posting like this instead of playing the game?

>>713443815
As much as I shill NMS, Hello Games is still it's biggest problem.

They need to stop adding shit and finish the game. Nobody wants to play an autistic building game where there's a guarantee that your autistic build will be corrupted for an EPIC water update.

>>713444843
i quoted 3 anons, i don't know who you are or what you're trying to prove here

>>713444621
Nav data will take you right to a crashed ship, retard. You're literally always wrong and it's funny.
>OH NO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO LEARN THE SYSTEMS AND PLAY THE GAME EFFICIENTLY????
>THAT'S SHALLOOOOOOOOWWWW

>>713445247
>hasn't played the last 2 major updates
thanks for confirming my suspicions anon, I knew you don't play the game

>>713445247
Embrace his schizophrenia and you can get free entertainment.

>>713420050 (OP)
the worst part in this game are the horrible color choices, unnatural and grating pinks, purples and yellows. and of course, the "minimal" ui using institutional fonts and designs

>>713445354
>a crashed ship
>might not even be the one you're looking for
why would you do that to yourself the space station shit is faster than that strategy

>>713445428
That's a different guy you are talking to, schizo.
Bet you can't post your hours played either.

>>713445497
A good glyph is for crash sites, not starports.
It is the fastest way to do many things. Hanging around a starport after using a glyph is retard tier.

>>713445548
>>713445628
>merely pretending to be retarded
fun thread anon, thanks for joining

>>713445354
>retard still thinks he's arguing with the same person
I leave this thread for 40 minutes and you're screaming at even more people and referencing shit from me that that anon didnt even say. If NMS is that amazing go drop some more hours in it. It has to be more fun than convincing no one and striking at shadows, right? No one can be this far on the spectrum, right?

>>713445497
You're supposed to be using the glyph for the crash site, anon. Not the starport.

Crash sites are predetermined per system with a drastically smaller pool of parts so when people share glyphs for parts, they can be obtained in less than 5 minutes.

>>713445428
>haven't played the latest 2 out of the 40 updates
>guess you never played the game and know nothing
This. NMS only really starting being fun in March right? Huh? That wasn't your point. Your point is retarded that's why.

>>713445695
I appreciate that you think I can post that fast.

>>713445695
>>713445747
lol now he's doing it too

>>713445776
so... the 5 minutes I mentioned earlier about having to grab the part like a fetch quest is still true? Nice concession, but if you wanna prove it's sub 5 minutes I'll need YOU to record your own footage doing it right now with a part of your choosing. That is, unless you don't wanna play the game... it's only 5 minutes, less than that really

>Multiple people posting facts and evidence is "pretending to be retarded"

God bless paranoid schizophrenia.

>>713445985
You're losing it.

>>713446013
You said over 10-11 minutes. I didn't concede anything and I'm also not even talking to you.
>Oh yeah? Go film footage for me, boy.
You are an insufferable nigger.

tick tock anon those 5 minutes are flying by fast... I guess nobody wants to play this game and show me how fast they can use a glyph portal, fly to the location of a crashed ship, fly to the space station, dismantle the ship, and then successfully upgrade their ship

>>713446075
Vague posting about how many guys totally agree with your ramblings is the death rattle of the low tier anon

>>713446086
Nice photoshop but nobody believes you.

>>713443703
It really depends on the amount of autism you have. I've seen people with 15k hours in this game of all things.

I think people defending the game are going about it wrong
Oh yeah so this guy doesn't get the most efficient way to fetch quest some dumb useless part
The problem is all the parts are fucking boring, all the ship and tool upgrading is boring, fighting both on land or in ship is boring, collecting resources is boring, going from A to B to trade some items for units is boring.
None of this "ackshullay you can get those items easy" makes it better you explore for the sake of exploring and gather for the sake of gathering while the game pretends you'll ever do anything cool with what you find.

>>713446276
This is one of the more entertaining schizophrenia routines I have seen.

i think you like it if you find joy in discovering strange planets and collecting resources
as well the endless progression

>>713446363
>schizo starts naming and combining the voices

>yes hi I was hoping to speak to the based department?
>well it's been over 10 minutes and anon still hasn't even tried to prove me wrong
>no no I don't need any more you's just please tell them 5-10 minutes just for a single set of the parts they need to build the ship
>How many parts you need? uhhh I think it was 4 per starship the wings, cockpit, engines, and nose
>okay I'll let them know
20-40 minutes of fetch quests

>>713446386
The sad part is if someone just admits, hey its shallow but it's a lot of content and I like going from one point to another and doing repetitive shit, this thread would've been on page 10 an hour ago. It's one guy acting like the final bastion of Sean when it's just people saying the game sucks for multiple reasons and he's accusing everyone of being the same person. It's one of the saddest threads I've seen in a while. Well, a month. There was a stellar blade thread where people were begging for any description of gameplay and stellar blade fags absolutely refused to say a thing. "What do you mean by gameplay?" will haunt me forever.

>>713445428
and you haven't played 4 of the last major updates, with worlds p2 arguably being the biggest one
again, i don't understand who you are, what you're arguing, why you're arguing, or what you're trying to prove, but calling someone who's played more recently than you as someone who "doesn't play the game" just makes me assume you're baiting, so im out

>>713446386
Then go play a different game. Most people who play No Man's Sky use it for relaxation and roleplay, not grinding resources with epic hardcore gameplay.
The core of the game is stellar travel. If that one exact thing isn't doing it for you then this game will probably never be for you.
Boring is a fair objective opinion but the claim of "shallow" some are making is factually wrong.

The boring factor you're describing proves what I said earlier though:
No Man's Sky current biggest problem is Hello Games. Every interesting gameplay idea keeps getting passed up for some kind of farming or resource addition.

No Man's Sky is not shallow.
But I will happily admit it's fucking boring. That's what space travel is.
Space Travel is boring. GO PLAY SOMETHING ELSE.

>>713446806
yet I'll probably have the game up and running before you do. I'm curious to time how fast I can get a single part (including time spent looking for ships with the correct parts online) and multiplying it by 4

>>713446801
Fuck you, schizo troll vermin. You haven't played this game and it's obvious.

I admire all the free content, but no matter how many updates I see, it ultimately still seems like a game without direction

>>713446801
>Accusing everyone of being the same person

Jesus Christ you really are a paranoid schizophrenic. You literally made up a story about 1 fucking post and imposed on the one rational person defending the game.

You are actual fucking vermin. An annoying right.

>>713447575
>>713447340
could one of you two do me a favor and show me your (you) just a little thought experiment

>>713420050 (OP)
>the devs released free updates instead of just killing the game that means they're my friends haha yay I have friends now
Literally no words to describe my levels of disgust towards these "people"

>>713420050 (OP)
no man's nortubel

>>713447415
Reply to this post and the post with the screenshot of hours played. I am about to prove how much of a deranged schizo you are.

>>713447796
is that your strategy to try and blend in instead of showing me your (you)?

>>713447917
So you can't do it.

It was me.
I was the No Man. That's MY sky.

>>713447427
>>713447575
>replying to the same post twice
>using the same terms like vermin and schizo
>calling anyone else schizo
A genuine manic fool. NMS is supposed to be relaxing right? You don't seem relaxed. You seem strung out and tense. Go scan some flippifloppis or garungadung rocks or learn the Gek word for "mentally ill". Everyone has longed figured out you've been samefagging and trying to accuse everyone else of it instead.

>>713448092
Johnny No Sky, here at last!

as soon as this posts I'm going to click play and try to find 4 starship parts

coming soon

Im happy for their success but im just waiting on the fantasy version. Hoping for a release date this year.

>>713447724
>dumbass screamed at everyone calling them schizo vermin
>gets called out for any evidence they aren't schizo
>eerie long silence
How many times do you think his mom has screamed at him to quiet down and stop fussing at them internet peoples?

>>713447340
>Space Travel is boring.
I disagree. Well, maybe the floating around is boring, but I love to wander and catalogue undiscovered planets with that small kernel of hope that the procedural generation fucks something up in a magnificent or terrifying way.

I'm not perfect or a speedrunner but I used Steam's built in video thing to capture the exact time until I got in the ship. Weird thing is how close I was with my time estimate of 5-10 minutes

Slower because I had to load from my freighter, fly onto the spacestation, reload while on the space station twice to get ships to respawn, and this is for a ship that isn't custom or specific parts. Just a couple random fighters thrown together. Almost 9 minutes MINIMUM instead of a menu that lets you buy and pick the parts you want exactly as you want them. You could get it down to around 5 if you had an optimal starting setup

whoops wrong screencap, that one doesn't show the time at the bottom

>>713449515
That's what NMS is to me. I can play it in bursts and check out a bunch of procgen shit, hoping the environment did something weird while I autistically go through a bunch of repetitive quests and activities. I get burnt out fast but the game has its charm. It can easily afford to be less boring in many parts. Driving the ship is fun but going from planet to planet stacks up along with leaving it or running from sentinels. Game has a lot going for and against it.

I have my complaints about many things but freighters being a mobile base is not one of them. Also they added a device you can put inside that scans every planet without you having to land on them to discover them

>>713445479
Fucking space too looks ugly as hell. Real space already looks extremely cool, but no they had to fill it up with colorful gay gases everywhere

holy mother of chromatic aberration, my fucking eyes

>>713451220
They only mega gay thing is that you can't install an economy scanner in the freighter. I would eat higher warp cost to be able to casually hop systems trading, space trucker style. Feels so stupid loading up my minivan to personally peddle goods like I'm not commander of a massive fleet

>>713453001
There's a freighter addon for that nowadays and warping into a system, using the planetary probe to scan every planet, then hopping over to your trade terminal to grab trade resources. Gotta grind salvaged frigate modules to get it but those are pretty easy to come by

>>713420050 (OP)
I just hate how gay the whole thing is

>>713454349
>salvaged frigate module grinding
>frigate expansion grinding

inb4 >>/vtranny/
make me

>>713432132
Space games where you stay in space are fine, but people are suffering from a mass delusion that 1:1 scale procgen planets will somehow be interesting to explore

>>713454934
you could slap creative mode on in the difficulty options if you wanted. Not as cool but the sandbox experience lets you choose from survival to fun and I use a custom mix myself tailored for laid back exploration while not completely removing all damage. You could buy trade goods in creative and sell them in another difficulty for even higher profit margins. It's not a perfect system but I wouldn't punish myself with survival mode anyways

>>713455897
the hardest difficulty of survival mode just makes the first hour of the game more tedious and slower. the instant your hyperdrive is usable you have access to everything that trivializes extreme planets and such

>>713432568
NMS does technically have a trade system but 's silly because of teleportation. There's no need to actually fly a ship between the locations.
Then again NMS in general is more role-playing prop than game so I guess you can pretend there's no teleporting if you want to

>>713456048
There's a setting where the entire galaxy is abandoned too but you have to start a new save

>>713454349
huh might be time for a reinstall. Must have been added not too long ago because I'm sure I scoured the web looking for a solution

>>713456174
Frigate base building is overhauled so you have have multi story farms as you with

>>713456170
only survival and permadeath modes have achievements for reaching the center, but if they add an achievement for that mode maybe I'll consider punishing myself with that

>>713456423
the only two achievements i haven't gotten are 'survive for X amount of time on permadeath mode on an extreme planet'

i don't want to just sit in a hole for all that time

>>713455897
At least you can grab those modules from guilds if your rep is high enough
You still have to keep flying to space stations tho

>>713456574
Hope it isn't a planet where tornadoes spawn
That thing will literally sent you flying

>>713449515
Found a hellscape of a planet

I appreciate the effort making free updates for years, but the issue is that these updates don't fix the boring core gameplay of mining rocks to go to other planets to mine more rocks
all the stuff they added is just base building shit to have a few distractions between rock mining

>>713420050 (OP)
Fun game. I think I paid like 20 bucks for it. It also ended up being one of the only VR titles worth a shit. My only beef is I wish it was less arcadey, more sim like.

>>713456608
hop in your ship after buying them and reload the restore point? I remember being able to do that for S-class upgrade modules from the space stations but they may have patched that strategy

>>713457157
forgot to say hop in AND out, if you don't hop back out the restore point won't be made (starships are decent for being mobile save points)

>>713420050 (OP)
>every species is the same except for looks
>every species gets along
>because of this every station feels the same with the same npcs everywhere
The world just feels so incredibly boring. It looks nice but there's no sense of anything living in this world. Just npcs standing there to say "go mine this" "go kill faceless robot pirates"

>The world just feels so incredibly boring
you seam to be having issues with the world, just go kill every alien you see and steal their loot from tier 3 economy systems. Vykeen are the most fun to fight against imo and the starship pirate play is fun. World exploration is... okay? I guess? Combat on foot sucks

>>713436320
We had truly great space games in the 90s tho

>>713437513
My biggest concern is that they'll make traveling long distances too fast/convenient

>>713432672
just found out about another open source game which is based on the original Elite game called Oolite
https://www.oolite.space/

>>713420050 (OP)
It has the worst UI od modern gaming history. All planets are the same.

for anyone on the fence about reinstalling they've gotten HDD load times pretty fast. Webm related.
>just get an ssd
devs should optimize their shit and in this case they did for a massive performance increase

i dropped no mans sky back in 2023 because theres not much to do on planets. they all look more or less the same and none of the creatures there are any fun, theres no point to being on them either and the hazards are a non-issue late game

i really wish theyd add colony planets with giant sprawling cities or at least some form of dungeon that isnt the abandoned freighters, but i have a feeling if they did itd be underbaked like when they added settlements
i want action and adventure! no mans sky makes me sad

>>713445183
They should've started with just a few galaxies, and then with every major change that would change the look/experience of planets, create a new galaxy for that while leaving the old systems intact in the older galaxies.

Need more news on Light No Fire, that looks more appealing to me then mining shit on planets or base building

>>713433467
old af news
was already fixed, twice.

the vast majority of complains on this thread are stuff 2 years old or more

>>713457076
>mining rocks to go to other planets to mine more rocks
I keep seeing people say this but are they just talking about the early game?
In my experience you end up building a few resource farms like oxygen and a few other core materials and then after that you just make what you need with refiner recipes
If anything I wish they game really was about needing to fly to specific planets to mine things instead of just teleporting between resource farms and going to eat lunch while your refiners are busy

>>713461416
as a Rust autist I am stoked for Light No Fire's mining shit. One of my best memories is meeting a clan and explaining that I just like collecting resources like wood and stone actually they were raiding one of my bases and asked why my base had nothing but basic shit. in the end they hired me like a contractor to supply mats for their superstructure in exchange for protection and any gear/supplies I wanted to defend myself. Good times

I've been occasionally playing it.
Apart from constantly mining oxygen, it feels like the game just wants me to run around finding an ever-growing list of hippies who tell me that exploring is the best and being an explorer is the highest virtue, now go and talk to the next hippy.

>>713460560
>It has the worst UI od modern gaming history
12 starship inventories
10 storage containers
a half-dozen exocraft inventories
capital ship inventory
personal backpack inventory
cooking ingredients inventory
fishing skiff inventory
AND NO SEARCH FUNCTION

>>713462440
And you have to switch between Esc and Tab menus all the time. No, you can't have 2 quests active. No, the star map has to be a screen-wide 3d representation of the galaxy. The quick menu? Sure, just navigate through 2 more sub-menus.

>>713461986
I think it's just the early game. As soon as you get the anomaly you can buy the trade scanner, and after you name systems according to a trade loop (for easy teleporter access) you can just exploit that with near instant teleports. Not to mention the space stations will have most the resources you need for all the early quests
>>713462440
sort your storage containers instead of dumping everything carelessly and you won't run into that problem
>>713462730
you can hotkey stuff from the quick menu, but the esc and tab screens being two seperate menus I almost agree with. On the other hand one's your storages menu and the other is your actual menu with codex and quests etc so it makes sense to seperate them based on function

>>713462981
It's just the weakest point of already weak game. Who thought using Baldur's Gate inventory/log system was going to work in 2016?

>>713463238
BG series or as I affectionately call it Bad Game Inventory systems are certainly not ideal but it technically works. I personally can't stand the long transitions between menus as they pop up. It's only a second or two but it adds up quick when there's so many transitions on everything in game. There's mods for that but still

>>713463572
Yes. No inventory should have loading effects. Ooh, I'm a UI designer, look at my mad animation skills every fucking time you open a menu!

Still waiting for these faggots to release the Switch 2 patch already

>>713463918
It might be a bit, there's probably not many people playing NMS on switch to begin with

>>713420050 (OP)
Think about the kind of retard who has to be interested in this shit in the first place, now it should make more sense

WHY CAN'T ANYONE MAKE ELITE: DANGEROUS BUT BETTER WHY IS IT SO FUCKING HARD GODDAMMIT
AND NO I WONT PLAY AUTISM CITIZEN

Everyone who recommends this game as a proper space game, particularly as a successor to Freelancer, needs to kill themselves.

>>713464827
Because Elite is inherently a shit game? Infinite proc gen space games are always garbage.

>>713464902
ALL games are space games considering the laws of physics

>>713466641
You're mom is a space game

>>713464292
this

>>713420513
>star citizen
>broke
Not if you steal ships from paypigs. Do you know the satisfaction and rush of running inside of a Polaris and taking it away from the pig that paid $1k for it?

>>713464827
Play Terran Conflict or Albion prelude. Or X4.

>>713464292
>only person IRL who openly talked about the game was also the biggest pothead I knew
I mean he was a chill dude but I know exactly what you mean by that, but to be fair you're here too and so am I so I'm pretty sure we're all retarded

reminder that this was originally intended to be a fucking mobile phone game, before it got picked up and advertised as a giga space sim. that guy got way in over his head but he still could of said "hey, maybe we cant do this". still, he stuck around and kept pumping content out for those who actually did like the game instead of just cutting his losses and disappearing, only to return with a new whatever.

>>713467190
>Taking it away.
>Reclaim at ASOP terminal
>"Taking it away"
Lol. Lmao, even.

>>713468338
>two more weeks
Kek

>>713468178
I had never heard about it being a mobile game, can you elaborate?

>NO MANS SKY?! MORE LIKE ONE MAN'S LIE!!!
Why is he so fat

>>713468178
Did you fall asleep half way into the video and hear 'mobile game' for some shitty shovelware game they made beforehand?

>>713435025
>sentinels spawn forever unless you run in a building or hide in a hole
oh no no
who's gonna tell him?

>>713437215
No, you just need a competent dev team that makes their own engine that is focused on the aspects their game intends to deliver instead of taking cry-engine or ueslop and thinking "we'll figure it out as we go".

>>713468891
im just blatantly posting my half rememberings from literal posts made by other anons on this site from like a decade ago, as if its the truth. because it is.

>>713469332
i dunno, dont force me to pivot and move the goals a bit and start saying shit like "oh so it was a mobile phone game company pressed into triple a expectations, thats gonna pan out well", or something equally passive aggressive, ya jack ass

>>713470189
>talk out ass
>act retarded when called out
dude you can just say "oh my bad I must've mixed it up" instead of doubling down. Now I'm gonna have to put you down.

>>713438976
>Unique items
I will forever be mad that there are items gated behind expeditions and expeditions are time-gated.
Want an item from the first expedition? Too fucking bad, suck a dick.

>>713470418
nah, im like, specifically looking to argue. i really dont care about this game at all. i just dont really care about space, or laser weapons? i like ballistic, earth based rooty tooty mcshooty stuff.

>>713470672
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/1im1i9y/reminder_you_can_play_any_expedition_any_time_you/

here's what I found with a single search. You basically just play offline with a date changed and when you go back online after finishing it updates and completes the expansion. No clue if it actually works but feel free to give it a try if you're that interested in playing old expansions

I'm OP and I'm tired of getting 4chanX notifications that aren't direct (You)s to my posts.

>>713462037
That's extremely autistic.
I would love that too desu.

>>713471183
Interesting. Thanks anon.

>>713472928
That was the basis of feudalism.

>>713471326
>composing troll thread hehehehe
>oh noez why so many replies??

I hate survival game mechanics and managing oxygen and shit. I uninstalled NMS in the tutorial years ago. Is it worth trying again?

>>713474335
Thank you.

>>713474546
change the difficulty settings to be more chill if you don't like hazard protections, but it's still the same timewasting game. Chill but lacking substance without player input. On the upside the game feels a bit more stable than it did a year ago and the HDD load times >>713460685 are better

>>713474546
>Is it worth trying again?
did you not read the thread

>>713474801
It's surprising how many fags actually don't.

>>713420050 (OP)
This games gives my 4070ti setup the same "cannot run vulkan" error every time I tried to play it the last 2 years. Money stolen.

NMS fixed a lot their mistakes and added shit tons of content while Elite Dangerous, the GAAS FUCKING GAME WITHOUT WEAPON/SHIP BALANCE PATCHES FOR 5+ YEARS promised DLC every year for 10 years and delivered nothing. It's unreal. This is just cursed timeline.
I physically can't enjoy playing NMS because of flight model alone. It's mobile trash tier. Shame Infinity: Battlescape is dead pvp game. X4 and Evochron will remain being my space shrines forever.

>>713420513
Failed entirely to fix the two most fundamental problems which are the incredibly bland and samey planet topographies, and the incredibly bland and samey fauna and flora on those planets.
What the fuck is the point of an adventure exploration game if the weird sheep cow thing I find on a generic hilly plain on Planet Y is the exact same as the weird sheep cow thing I find on a generic hilly plain on Planet X, except it's orange instead of pink

>>713420050 (OP)
Play in VR with motion controls. The game is way better when you have everything to scale.

>>713423084
There is no such thing as an objective good game. Some people will think it's good, some will think it's shit. Simple as. I'm pretty sure at this point the majority of people think it's anything from good to decent and very few contrarians think it's shit.

>>713464827
It exists and it's called Starfield.

>>713477714
I bet that's amazing

>>713478780
All of the vehicles have motion control cockpits and the weapon turret follows your head. You drive with your hands and aim with your helmet. Melee is occasionally satisfying when you ragdoll with a punch and gunplay is like playing paintball or laser tag with the lacking sights.

>>713420050 (OP)
the ui is still some of the worst shit in a game i've ever encountered, why do you need to hold click to do things? i stopped playing after like an hour after just being stranded on some planet with no idea on what to do

>>713479267
>hold click to do things?
You can disable the hold to confirm.

>>713479267
The game tells you what to do constantly and you're bombarded with tutorial from the getgo yet you're so retarded you can't figure out this game with a ui so easy toddlers and grannies could figure it out?? Like bro you don't have to announce how autistic you are as soon as you enter a thread

>>713420050 (OP)
YouTube shills

>>713479694
oh that's good

>>713479720
i probably got too overwhelmed by all the shit going on then, i remember something about a scanner that i couldn't figure out without looking it up.
anyway, it never really clicked with me, just exploring ugly planets with ugly randomly generated animals is not my kind of game

>>713420050 (OP)
Name the problems, fagget.

>>713420050 (OP)
No mans sky
Cyberpunk
/v/ never learns

>>713482003
it annoys me to reward devs who release broken trash after they make good, but what am I to do, skip out on two of the best games of their time?

>>713483768
to be fair with a certain level of retardation suspension of disbelief and childlike wonder still intact it is good

>>713438486
>filling it up with civilization
Wait you can do that? How do you get anyone to come live in your planet? Can they reproduce?

>>713485348
build cities and pretend I guess. I've always liked the idea of finding a small hex planet and covering the surface lole cybertron

I played it for the first time last month, too many of the planets looked too similar within a 4 jump radius around my starting system.

>>713485827
there's different galaxies to explore with different generation characteristics and the starter galaxy Euler is kinda ass. If you build a teleporter base in each galaxy (lots of work even in creative mode) you can warp between all the galaxies at will and pick your favorite. and there's star clusters and other things that affect generation as well but Euler is definitely one of the my least favorite

>>713485827
go to a space station, look for a quest that involves taking a photograph. those will usually lead you to a weird planet

>>713487948
And the weird planets are cool, but isn't the point of the game that the generative AI creates interesting things? All of those planets are bespoke, made by the devs specifically to be weird. I wanted a game where that kind of shit could just appear if the RNG lines up right.

>>713488662
well that stuff does exist. though i've yet to find a planet naturally occuring that has floating islands on it

>>713488886
In my neck of the woods I'm hard pressed to find one without flying islands.

all i know is that all my progress exploring the galaxy was pointless and automatically deleted , all the named planets i discovered was erased

games that do that should have a giant warning on the box, like with POE or other "ha ha we reset everything youve done after 2 weeks" bullshits

>>713490862
Damn, I still have logged discoveries from 2019

>>713490668
i mean i operate in calpyso (galaxy 3) which is like 1/100th as explored as euclid

>>713420050 (OP)
My only problem is the mandatory language learning. Why isn't there an option that disables this bs?

>>713420050 (OP)
Are there still planets that players haven't discovered yet or has all of it been pretty much mapped out at this point?

>>713493441
the portion of planets that are mapped is miniscule. It's nothing to go irl days without seeing a trace of a player even in the populated galaxy

>>713420050 (OP)
A youtuber told them it's a good game now.

>>713420050 (OP)
10 years of patches and expansions and it's still just a boring resource gathering game with absolute dogshit combat. I'm disappointed every three years when I convince myself that surely, they must have made this game fun by now, right?

>>713420513
Nah, fuck that. The core of the game is to explore, but the problem is 99% of the game is barren, is the same but a different color, and filled with randomly generated abominations.

Then, let's say you find a planet that doesn't look like complete shit, and has a lifeform that doesn't look retarded... there's nothing meaningful you can do with it. They just keep adding vehicles and types of walls. They never fixed the core problem. It just bloated and meaningless.

E:D adn SC at least provide a progression and knowledge gate that rewards you for taking on a role, and has complex systems that you need to master to do it successfully.

>>713431069
Exactly this. NMS and Cyberpunk both pulled the same shit. They just said that they were going to make something amazing, and never provided any legit proof of concept or details. I never understood why people got hyped for either, as there was nothing to be hyped about. And then they came out and fucking sucked.