It's the blue blurs birthday. Got any plans to celebrate?
I'm going to be playing Sonic Galactic, Sonic Overture demo, Sonic and the Moon Facility, Sonic and the Fallen Star, Sonic Smackdown
i intend on doing other non vidya stuff (reading the sonic x dc crossover, Watching Sonic 3 movie for the first time, marathoning Sonic Prime).

>>713433003 (OP)

>>713433749

>>713434350

>>713433749
>Sonic’s Birthday
>post AI slop
That’s insulting, anon

>>713435591
Metal Sonic is AI

>>713436005

>>713436947

>>713437598

Im going to have some ribs surgically removed so I can suck my own dick then put on a fur suit and hump a lamp post.

Yay Sonic!

>>713438470
Thanks for the bump fellow autist.

>>713438590

I like Sonic

>>713440010
As we should.

>>713433003 (OP)
Happy birthday to MY FUARKING HERO

>>713440112

>>713441792
Why didn't he just kill Elise?

>>713442324
He wanted to merge with Iblis and making Elise cry was the only way to break the seal if I remember correctly.

>>713442591
Fine, shoot her leg off or something.
That would have worked.

Might stream Shadow Generations to a supposed girl on /soc/ after work.

>>713442931
>Might stream Shadow Generations to a supposed girl on /soc/ after work.
Why are you streaming that to a supposed girl from /soc/?

>>713442931
Good luck

>>713435591
>shoving the fags in the birthday Pic
Kill all westerners

>>713433003 (OP)
is it true that amy was originally known as rosy the rascal?

>>713443276
Westerners is what prevented Sonic from dying.
Between the cartoons and comics it has helped Sonic stay alive.

>>713443397
Yes, also in Sonic CD American manual they called her Sally Acorn

happy birthday to my favorite corpse of a franchise

>>713443584
>>713443584
>Corpse
>It's doing better than ever since the late 90's early 2000's.
Anon...surely you jest.

>>713443276
it's IDW, whaddya expect?

>>713443397
Not only that, but she was actually far more sexy then too with a much heavier chest (she'd put rogue to shame!!) more defined thighs, and she was more about innuendo for the more adult viewers to enjoy, and for kids to find out when they got older. Sonic's universe is so full of hot babes, so they decided to tone her down in her first official appearance, and it's been history ever since

>>713435591
reality is worse

>>713443461
People who buy the product yes but the series would be dead if they truly let them have full control and let them add faggots and trannies into the series

>>713443805
What do you mean by "them"?
Them who?

>>713443006
>Major time zone difference so need short game
>Shadow Generations is light on plot and visually stimulating so will be easy to have conversation while playing
>Shadow is my boy so if "she" hates it then I know we won't get along long term.
Been trying to make internet friends with women since girls are nice to talk too and I find male bonding doesn't work if it's not in person. Half the "women" there are either psychos or men who refuse VC to hide the fact they're A.I generating pictures/stealing from social media but I've had some decent convo's with a few.

>>713443927
Sonic X Shadow Generations is NOT a short game.

>>713443461
>>713443805
>>713443921
Lets relax with the JP vs West stuff just for today, its our hero's birthday

>>713443921
I'm not gaving a Tailsfag a serious response so, bye.

>>713444053
Shadow Generations alone sure is. Any% it casually and it's like two-three hours long. Hour a day for a few days and it's done.

>>713444119
His birthday was yesterday

>>713433003 (OP)
>Sonic's Birthday
did they make a little game again? or they just dont care about their mascot?

>>713444224
It's today because I'm a flithy gaijin

>>713444265
That was an April fools release

>>713444151
Alright weirdo.

>>713444158
Oh thought you meant you intended on playing the entire thing.

>>713444224
His birthday is the 23rd. It's the 23rd here in the west.

>>713444265
They didn't make that game for his birthday. They made that on April fools day.

Happy birthday to our glorious leader Doctor Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik. Long live the Eggman Empire!

>>713443669
I'm not talking about sales or relevance, I'm saying about the quality with how similar it's gone to star wars with shallow nostalgia pandering

>>713444442
>Oh thought you meant you intended on playing the entire thing.
If they like it and want to keep talking to another game then maybe. Will be severely out of order doing Adventure 2 later if I do but Adventure 2 isn't really a conversation game.

>>713444507
What in the autism are you even yammering on about?
What do you mean by "it's gone to star wars"?

>>713444448
I forgot its his birthday as well, HAPPY BIRTHDAY EGGMAN!

>>713444623
Generations is more of a conversation game?
Why not just face time or something with them instead?

>>713444448
>>713444640
It's not his birthday though.

>>713444437
>>713444442
shouldn't they one up an april fools joke for the birthday?

>>713444718
>Generations is more of a conversation game?
Yeah because there's like 10 whole minutes of plot and we can just discuss whatever while I run through the levels. Story games would require them to actually pay attention to the game.

As for face time, that would be only if we repeatedly click well in voice calls.

>Sonic Frontiers still above 10bux
>still has denuvo

>>713444813
No, they should focus on releasing a game when it's actually ready to. Has Sonic 06 experience taught you nothing about patience and the end result of trying to push things to make some sort of made up deadline?

>>713444968
nobody is asking for a full fledged game like 06 dumbo

>>713444947
Is the Sonic game idea theirs or yours?

>>713444626
I noticed alot of similarities to dave filoni in a way that he has his own personal oc he likes to insert as well as taking the characters previously established and doing fuck all with that with what he wants, the truth of the matter is that sonic hasn't evolved as a franchise and is now relying on callbacks and rehashes to keep others happy instead of actually making games that aren't just meter management boost titles or mangling other tropes from shallow open world titles

>>713444803
I mean... Sonic 1 was also his first game. But yeah I doubt it's his birthday in universe

>>713445031
Haven't even mentioned it to them yet, just said I'd stream something.

>>713445028
So you want them to stretch their resources out even further for a free game?
There's already fans that make games all year round. Your demands are ridiculous from a business standpoint.

>>713445032
Okay? I'm not seeing what any of this has to do with my question. I don't know what Dave Filoni was until after just googling him.
I don't see what any of this has to do with Sonic.

>>713445340
Anon is struggling to convey that he thinks Sonic has creatively died. It's run by fans who just reference shit and it's become such a corporate brand that it doesn't allow actual strong ideas in anymore.

>>713445691
That is complete nonsense. Anyone who actually pays attention to what they're doing in the movies, comics, animation, marketing including the figure line and even trying to give fans what they want like with Sonic Racing Crossworlds, surprising fans with Shadow Generations, and despite what a lot of autistic manchildren thinks the IDW series has introduced different concepts.
Frontiers was extremely experimental.

>>713445948

>>713446081
You can meme face all you want, but I said nothing wrong.

My birthday is on Thursday :)

>>713445948
>and even trying to give fans what they want
I mean, that's the point. It's all fan pandering. Sonic doesn't tell actual stories anymore. It isn't actually bright and loud and striking, it's tepid and a trend follower.

>>713445948
>Giving the fans what they want
>Crossworlds has Denuvo
>Who the actual fuck asked for NICKELODEON (SpongeBob, Avatar, TMNT, Fairly Oddparents) DLC in this fucking game?
This isn't going to be a good one lads. Definitely not worth 80 bucks.

>>713445948
I'm sure fans wanted the same model from 2005 but slightly edited for over 20 years

Our lord and savior

>>713443276
>>713443702
They're still pissed that they can't make Tangle an Whisper scissor each other so this is their way of getting back at Sega

>>713446195
Happy early birthday

>>713446443
That's not always the point. Customers don't always know what they want until they get it.

>>713446564
I mean actual normal people anon not autistic pc manchildren with severe autism.
Sponge Bob, TMNT, Fairy Oddparents, and Avatar are extemely popular franchises anon. Are you under some sort of rock?

>>713446624
They do. That's why he's barely changed.

PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS

>>713447589

Some great new 34th birthday art today

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWfXR0-F7MI-TbqikgEdJcQ/community?lb=UgkxhcoFRvI8dKibBLhjl2rbRwZ2sICCg_EQ

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCOSYITWQHRSUxvlQ4_PSCg/community?lb=Ugkxis0vC1bsOGwegYQV_j4ljnpK61iOsyUn

Tip: YouTube post images are often hosted at full quality.
>Right-click -> View Image in new tab
>In URL bar, at the end of the URL find the "=" and replace everything after it with "s0"
>E.g. =s1600-rw-nd-v1 -> =s0

The second image is a whopping 8K+ resolution digital illustration!

>>713448879
The other image which I've tidied up into a 4K wallpaper.
Light AI JPEG artifacting removal using Waifu2x, Fant downsampling (better results than billinear, bicubic, etc).

Haven't done anything yet because I'm about to head out, but I'll be doing a run of all 4 of the Classic games when I get home later

>>713448879
That's useful to know. I'm tired of social media fucking up my files.

>>713446564
SpongeBob, Sonic, and TMNT are some of my favorite things ever, sorry the crossover idea doesn't sound appealing to you but for me it's right up my alley

>>713450598
Sadly it's Seth Rogan's TMNT

>>713433003 (OP)
Happy Birthday ya blue bastard, Sonic Heroes 2 with new teams when?

>>713447309
Even then they can't outright say the birds are gay either. Remember, ALL characters made for IDW are owned fully by Sega, none of that Penders bs will be happening again. Just like with Whisper ad Tangle, all the writers/artist can do is provide fluff and that's it.

>>713450867
I loved Mutant Mayhem, and it's nice to see that they're acknowledging more than just 87 and 2012 TMNT (as much as I'd have loved to see 2003 or 2007 in the game since aesthetically I think they'd fit Sonic best). I think Mutant Mayhem has the most potential to show how good Sonic Team's art direction has gotten if they can mimic the artstyle of the movie

>>713444448
Knock him down, and he'll be back for another round.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4mPkze9AEs

For breakfast I had two hard boiled eggs.
Lunch this is two cheesy chili dogs (like tails likes them) with funyuns with "chao cola" (knock off soda)
Dinner will be two chili dogs with jalapenos (Sonic's preference) with wine (Knuckles likes grapes plus I want to drink) with a snickers for desert (One of Shadow's favorite foods)

>>713451120
I think the full story is that gay characters are allowed to exist so long as they are pitched to Sega already in a relationship. No falling in love or break up plots like how archie did. Tangle and Whisper were introduced at two separate times completely separate from each other so they literally can't ever get together. For the better I'd say seeing how retarded their fans are

>>713447309
>their way to "get back at Sega" is to openly put a drawing in a celebration pic made directly for and approved by Sega
The stupidest thing about Sonicfags in here is if need be they'll all shit on Ian but they've inherited the exact same relation with Sega that he had. A whole website of people somehow thinking the way things work is you just sneak things past and out of spite for the licensing company.

>>713451948
I'm like 90% sure they made those gay birds in retaliation for Sega not allowing Whisper x Tangle to be canon. That's what I mean by it

>>713451948
I don't get why people give Ian so much shit. He did try and give interesting ideas near the tail end of Archie's Sonic run by incorporating more game characters and background all while cleaning up the mess Penders created.

>>713452040
They are canon. What are you talking about?

>>713451330
>For the better I'd say seeing how retarded their fans are
At the same time, those same fans are gonna be constantly chomping at the bit for them to get together. Honestly, what annoys me about the two is not them potentially being a couple, it's that Tangle was introduced as this hip new female Sonic characters that was gonna be busting Badniks with the blue blur. Now, she's practically glued to Whisper, ever since their mini-series the two have almost NEVER been apart (with the lone exception of Tangle getting infected in MV).

>>713452147
>They are canon
They aren't. They basically are and everyone sees that but IDW can never outright say that the two are in an official relationship. Because Sega wants to avoid Archie romance stuff

>>713452040
You'd be wrong- the birds were pitched as gay to begin with, that's the whole point, and were introduced within the 2nd year of the comic. Stop just believing outrage and gossip and actually think or at least dare to accept you don't know shit, anon.

Speaking of knowing shit, reminder that we have actually zero evidence at all Sonic 1 ever came out on June 23, and in fact if anything we have more evidence that this date seems to have just appeared out of nowhere for the sake of having a date to celebrate

>>713452270
>the birds were pitched as gay to begin with
Except I did know that. I explained it earlier in>>713451330 What I'm now telling you is that they were made because the crying lesbians can't ever be official

>>713452262
Oh you mean the relationship thing I thought you meant the characters.
I don't think anyone besides rainbow cultist give a shit if they're officially together or not. I'm not a Sonic fan to see love and romance.

>>713449429
>Same artist that does the puyo puyo art

Shes in

>>713452448
And what I'm telling you is that in order for them to have been pitched from the beginning as gay, it means they were being made gay before the pairing of Tangle and Whisper romantically could've even been a thing. The infamous panels of them with the lesbian background colors etc all come from after the birds were introduced

>>713452773
>>713452448
Fight fight fight fight!

sonic is not cool anymore...

>>713454324
I don't like things to fit in.

>>713454324
That's because they want to make him calarts bubble faggot shit instead of cool 2k graffiti

>>713452731
I definitely think any games Sonic's been in will be given a spot in this so AiAi and Amigo will probably get in. I'm hoping for Joe Musashi to come back

>>713444448
This art sucks

For his birthday Amy should give him anal.

>>713433003 (OP)
Happy Birthday Sonic!

>>713455853

Sonic has no good games

>>713458261
What Sonic games have you played to come to that decision?

>>713458831
Sonic Frontiers

>>713458878
Well there's your problem

>>713458878

>>713458949
>>713459040
what do you mean?

>>713459079
That game is doo doo. Play Sonic 2 instead.

>>713459079
I regret to inform you that Frontiers is fucking stupid.

>>713433003 (OP)

Sonic the Hedgehog 1 on the Genesis was released in the North American market first before any of the other regions. Sega of America really needed it to be released a few weeks before the North American launch of the Super Nintendo and Super Mario World. The EU and JP releases were much more polished overall and have more parallax in some stages and have a few more additional effects.

https://youtu.be/OHE94oBDVW0

https://youtu.be/mK0OFsWWzu4

>>713459390
>That game is doo doo
I know that already.
>Play Sonic 2 instead
I did and it's better but that's not what Sonic is anymore. Sonic games now play more like Frontiers than Sonic 2.
>>713459398
I don't think it's stupid. I just thought that it was a bad game.

>>713459626
>I don't think it's stupid. I just thought that it was a bad game.

>>713459626
Then you admit there is a good Sonic game. I won this argument.

>>713444448
>sage with an hourglass figure
SEXOOOO
I hate how she looks like a dumb little baby in the game.

>>713460098
Because she's a fucking child you retard pedo.

>>713459808
This isn't a contradictory statement because that game still sold well. It did its job even if I think it's not very good.
>>713459935
I guess? I don't think "Sonic has no good games" is very different from "Sonic had good games but not anymore" because most Sonic games are bad and they have been bad for a long time now.

>>713460224

>>713460406
how am I wrong?

Sonic the Hedgehog 1 on the Genesis was released in the North American market first before any of the other regions. Sega of America really needed it to be released a few weeks before the North American launch of the Super Nintendo and Super Mario World. The EU and JP releases were much more polished overall and have more parallax in some stages and have a few more additional effects.

https://youtu.be/OHE94oBDVW0

https://youtu.be/mK0OFsWWzu4

>>713460523
You dare run your fingertips and claim a game when the king of fishing blessed us with his aura as not good?

Sonic the Hedgehog 1 on the Genesis was released in the North American market first before any of the other regions. Sega of America really needed it to be released a few weeks before the North American launch of the Super Nintendo and Super Mario World. The EU and JP releases were much more polished overall and have more parallax in some stages and have a few more additional effects. Image related is an 8-page magazine ad for Sonic the Hedgehog 1. It was posted in the October 1991 issue of EGM and was party of the launch advertising. Weird off brand comic.

https://youtu.be/OHE94oBDVW0

https://youtu.be/mK0OFsWWzu4

My first Sonic games were Heroes and Rush. I preferred Rush.

>>713443276
We will never escape from woke crap unfortunately.

>>713433003 (OP)
No because corporate mascots are not my personality.

>>713433003 (OP)
I have two compilations of Sonic Comics, one IDW, the other Archie; I have yet to read them.

>>713435591
Nice bathroom tile LMAO. Fitting since the Sonic franchise is shit.

>>713461496

>>713437598
Cream when she sees her fans
>>713438331
Metal when he sees Cream's fans

>>713443749
Nigga what the fuck are you yappin

Everyone shut up and make your Sonic OC
https://sonic-channel.jp/fancard/profile/

>>713443276
Hey now, don't talk about Espio and Vector like that.

>>713462850
Sonic Forces' generic animals really don't even feel like Sonic characters to me. I don't know why Sega made them look so different from the actual Sonic designs.

>>713463540
Because they needed parts to be compatible to the rest of the body. You couldn't really give them more detailed options since it could mess with the character's animation, hit box, clashing during cutscenes.

https://youtu.be/4dn7uq5g6iM?si=kS-qWryaAIeWF2uP

>>713464467
that's just MVC3 with a Sonic skin

>>713464581
It's not at all.

>>713443276
There is literally only one crowd of people bothered by this and if you saw their opinions on politics, you'd know that nothing they say is worth listening to.

>>713466276
What crowd would that be?

>>713448691
Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave
>>713461160
But is it canon?

>>713466824
>Asking about canon
>In the sonic franchise
Anon...

https://x.com/SonicSmackdown/status/1937234455468605878

Will you play?

>>713466963
Probably

>>713461812

>>713467995
taken down like an hour later

>>713466963
Aren't these the guys who were huffing their own farts so much that they wanted Sega to see them as an official game?
Anyway, fightan's are too complex for me.

>>713467995
lol they never post this stuff on their middle-eastern-shithole accounts. wonder why

>>713466389
Why would you reply to bait?

>>713468425
Because it's my thread, I'll do as I please.

>>713446443
Didn't they just do that with Sonic frontiers and to an lesser extent shadow generations?

>>713468716
My apologies, carry on...

>>713462850
Fine, I'll play along this time around.

>>713468771
Yeah, he's under some sort of rock.

>>713468850
Ah yes, my rival.

I am excited for Crossworlds

>>713466824
>But is it canon?

I have no idea. But by the looks of it, the comic was commissioned and paid for by Sega of America as part of Sonic the Hedgehog 1's advertising.; I guess that was published in the Oct 1991 issue of EGM, and I guess they reviewed the game in the July 1991 issue. I guess Sonic was already available when this ad hit.

>>713469058

August 1991 Electronic Gaming Monthly issue review of Super Mario Bros. 4 for the SNES.

>>713468850
do I have to make an X account to post this? lame if that's the case. lol

>>713462850

>>713469260
Ah yes, Cooper's best friend.
Sonic series does lack a dog character.

>>713469252
ah nvm, i see it.

Cool. Can I make make more or will this care be overridden? I like this idea.

>>713443276
>>shoving the fags in the birthday Pic
Mighty and Ray aren't in the picture though?

>>713433003 (OP)
>Watching Sonic 3 movie for the first time
How can you be a Sonic fan and not have seen the best vidya movie yet.

>>713454324
...because it's summertime and it's hot.

>>713469882
I don't like socializing
I don't agree with the decisions they made with the first and second movie. I was fine waiting. It's free for amazon prime members so waiting cost me nothing additional.

>>713461743
>

I 100% most sanic vidya including stuff like sonic4/chronicles so my tolerance is pretty high
Are superstars/frontiers worth it when they get a deep discount?
Also is forces can go for dirt cheap and is apparently fixed by modders is that true?

>>713454324
That's because he is way past cool

>>713471352

>>713471352
>Are superstars/frontiers worth it when they get a deep discount?
I'm playing Frontiers atm, it's a very different Sonic game and it's more combat most of the time.
>Also is forces can go for dirt cheap and is apparently fixed by modders is that true?
fixed what?

>>713469786
Chip was a dog.

Consider this your happy birthday, Sonic!

>>713471872
He was a fairy thing.

Superstars WILL disapoint you but not Sonic 4 episode 1. I would go as far to say Sonic 4 episode 2 is better than Super Stars for multiple reasons.

>>713433003 (OP)
Now that you bring it up I guess I could 100% the Genesis Collection, it was delisted from Steam so that would be nice to complete.

Now I understand delisting the game (Still pisses me off) but the fucking cards as well? The hell?

Merry Mobius Day, lads. Glory to the blue chillidog.

>>713471352
Second half is for you in this reply, i forgot to tag you.
>>713472079

>>713468941
We can be chill if you dig it. But a rival is always cool.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/x1duolqK6Rc

>>713471834
>fixed what
honestly i dont have the specifics but it seems to be a bunch of qol/mechanic fixes similar to how shadow got a community modpack

>>713472667
I have no idea. I played it on console and didn't have much problems besides with things like their physics being weird.

>>713472348
>Ice puns
You are now the villian

>>713472787
Well yeah, Shiver wasn't meant a nIce guy, so I think it's a frozen solid option. He is an ally to himself and to his people and little else. Considering Dr. Robotnik's worldwide rampage and wanton destruction, you can expect some would turn rather cold in the face of carnage.

>>713440010
I remember these images from the Sonic 3&K PC version and until now I realize he is running with a toast in his mouth. I thought that was sonic with a poorly drawn mouth all this time.

>>713471352
Superstars is fun enough levels and boring bosses. Sure, pick it up on discount, just don't bother 100%ing

>>713473082
Congrats i cringed

>>713473584
welcome to /v/. cringe is this place's backbone.

>>713473808
Is that /v/ or /v/'s contingent of Sonic fans?

>>713435468
>this is a crop of a bigger piece
>Retro is running slow as hell so I can't see if they have the full thing in HD
i want to die

>>713475515
I have that poster

My friend got me the LRG SxS bundle as a gift.

Was that stupid on his part?

>>713475713
How are we supposed to know? We're not you.
I have that coming too.

>>713475650
post poster

>>713475217
Yes.

But one person's cringe is another's hobby, so It's w/e. Every fandom has those. Some get a bit too into and say dumb shit, what can ya do?

>>713475861
I don't know if you're asking me to prove it or try and get you a HD of it but i'll take a picture of it. Give me a moment.

>>713475515
Seems like the Shopify listing that SEGA had been using for that poster has since been taken down.

Which is annoying because like >>713448879
you can trim a bit of the URL to access a higher quality image.

>>713475713
Probably. It's the thought that counts though, hopefully they ship soon because I also got one

>>713475713
>Was that stupid on his part?
hE WANTS TO FUCK YOU IN THE asS

>>713475713
Did anyone else buy the Japanese collectors edition?

>>713475861

>>713476420
I bought him that in exchange.

Sadly it had to be the Switch version because they didn't make an Xbox One version of that.

>>713433003 (OP)
I still have to finish Superstars. It's so bad...I've had it for two years and every time I finish a Zone it exhausts me from the terrible level design and I just don't want to play it anymore

>>713475921
>>713475217

Alriiight I get it, no more ice puns. kek.

I dunno what Shiver is all about, give me more than five minutes of writing and designing and I'll think of somethin' better I'm sure.

>>713476420
I got >>713475713 instead

>>713476630
Yeah it's really rough. The levels are long as fuck too. Worst boss fights ever.

>>713476630
Playing Sonic Superstars is a far cry away from Sonic 2006 and I'm still trying to put time into that.

So shut up.

>>713476850
Sonic 06 is fun in a bad way at least. You can laugh at it and use the gems to do buggy fun shit and mess with the game
Superstars is just bad man

>>713476812
I don't understand why so many levels have to be 5-7 minutes long. That kills the whole purpose of replaying them over and over again to master them

>>713477107
No game causes me a physical reaction to dying like Sonic 2006 can.

Like I actually feel my eye twitch with pure hatred when I die in the game because I know I got cheated by how fucking awful it is.

>>713477175
That's just Arzette / Artoon in general. They think variety is king when it's really not.

The same problems that drag down Superstars, also drag down shit like Pinobee Wings of Adventure, or Balan Wonderworld.

>>713476630
Superstars honestly isn't that bad at all and the level design is good most of the time. But I've also played through it multiple times, the main story at least, so I've adjusted. Might try looking up tricks for the powers or using them in bosses, it doesn't save every boss but it makes most of them more manageable and if you use them right you can get more efficient kills

>>713442591
OK why didn't he just cut up a plate of onions in front of her.

AI art of Tails shitting.

>>713477365
>Superstars honestly isn't that bad at all and the level design is good most of the time
I can confirm I just started playing this today finally and it is pretty bad.

>>713445948
>trying to give fans what they want like with Sonic Racing Crossworlds,
I want SEGA All Stars 3 not Team Sonic Racing 2
And np, bringing back Extreme Gear isn't cool or interesting, it just cements that we should have gotten SEGA All Stars 3 or a new Sonic Riders game

>>713478181
I haven't thought it's that bad. Not great but it's fun enough. I just haven't beaten it yet.

>>713478282
Sumo is dead, what the hell do you want them to do?

>>713478336
No, it is that bad.
The music isn't memorable. The zones are stupidly long. There is not a single level I actually liked. The random lag. Constant loading screen. The characters look too plastic. The gimmicks is what made people hate Sonic 4 episode 1 so much for a good chunk of it. Sometimes hits don't count. The boss fights are obnoxious and DO NOT get me started on the goal post, warp, emerald special stages because holy shit is that absolute hell.
Designing your own robot is cool though

>>713478282
CrossWorlds is more in line with Transformed than Team Sonic Racing aside from being able to decorate and customize your car. Even has SEGA characters and crossover picks.

>>713433003 (OP)
>sonic
surely you must mean Bartleby's bitch

>>713445948

literally no one asked for SpongeBob

>>713478658
>The gimmicks is what made people hate Sonic 4 episode 1 so much for a good chunk of it.

No it wasn't, Sonic 4 is disliked for its very bad interpretation of the Sonic physics. Superstars is much closer to how Sonic should handle in 2D. It's superior to Generations' interpretation, actually.

>>713468771
No? Not even remotely?

Frontiers just slapped a bunch of popular shit from 2017 together, and Shadow Generations is fan pandering that was created for movie synergy.

>>713478816
How would you know that? You talk to a lot of kids?

>>713478873
If you want to say that to 4 episode 1, then you need to apply it to SS because the hit boxes and the powers do not work well together most of the time.

>>713479009
So we're just going to ignore all the actual things and focus on your excuses?

>>713478816
I didn't ask for him, because I didn't think he was on the table, but he's my favorite character ever so he's gonna be one of my mains.

>>713479096
>Vagueposting
Ah, a shitposter.

>>713478730
>Tamers
Surely you must mean Lauren Faust’s bitch

Go beat Sonic 1 right now

>>713479854
I'm not going to sit here and write up paragraphs of things they have done for the fans demands just because you have no idea what you're talking about yet still feel the need to put in his thoughts despite you clearly not experienced a single damn thing.

For me, it's Sonic the Hedgehog.

Anyone who calls themselves a Sonic fan owes it to themselves to play through Sonic 1 and beat it. It's amazing how far he's fallen from grace.

>>713480221
2 is better than 1
3 is better than 2
3&k is better than CD
CD is better than 1.
Go fuck yourself.

>>713480148
out of the first few games, sonic 1 is truly ass. Some levels are diabolical and I can't really touch any 2d sonic game without a spindash to help

>>713480148
>For me, it's Sonic the Hedgehog 3 and Knuckles.
based take anon

>>713480490
>>713480456
>>713480490
t.

>>713481568
Thanks for posting something entirely unrelated but still funny. I hope this wasn't a game journalist gameplay but just some random guy

>>713481792
IGN logo in the corner.

>>713481792
You replied to the wrong anon. This was the anon you wanted to say that to. >>713480148

>>713481913
What? That doesn't make any sense
>>713481856
I know

I still cannot believe the murder game was one of Sanic's best game

>>713482195
I've barely played it because it requires a mouse.

>>713482195
Now you understand why thee are fans. We love the characters the games are an after thought.

>>713482195
I truly didn't expect anything from a last minute announced april fools game but for what it is? Its fucking amazing. The character writting and humor makes it super enjoyable. I wish every sonic game had the character writting as that short game since everyone is on point and.. well, in character

>>713482419
Shame that the second Sonic is back alive, everyone started circlejerk him, despite each of the characters being capable of solving the issue, and the character you play as is immediately shove into forgottenness

>>713482419
>We love the characters the games are an after thought.
And this is the problem, you will accept literal trash and allow SEGA to continue making mistakes with this IP instead of letting them crash and burn.

>>713482419
>We love the characters the games are an after thought.

This is pathetic behavior and it's no wonder people can't help but mock the Sonic community.

>>713482195
>this game reminded me of why I enjoyed these characters
>never once felt bothered by how anyone talked or behaved, it's just everyone's basic characterizations being used simply and effectively
>see the credits and realized that nobody from the comics had any involvement in it (to my knowledge)

>>713482419
I don't agree with that.

>>713483914
Pink fuck toy

>>713483806
It's true though, majority of kids was exposed to sonic before we even played the games.
It was the two cartoons and the comic series that got us into sonic.

Happy birthday Sonic. As terrible as your franchise can get, I can never truly hate you.

>>713483914
>from the comics had any involvement in it
But isn't this a good thing though? Comic writers are not the best source of ANY lore or characterization.

>>713484246
Shut the fuck up Boco

>>713484362
Don't even reply to it.

>>713484362

Yeah yeah...

>>713484180
And your opinions on the fracnhise should not have any bearing on its future or state, but alas it did and now we're stuck with three shitty Hollywood movies that miss the point of Sonic's character.

>>713483914
The main artist is also an artist in the comics, it's why there's been cameos from stuff from this game in the comics

>>713484789
I didn't say anything about the movies. i don't like what they did to sonic. You just made one extremely bad assumption based on absolutely fucking nothing.
What a tool.

>>713433003 (OP)
When will he get his time to shine? He deserves his own video game. He's a goddamn ninja!

>>713484998

Ya know he was apparently gonna be the star of the 32X game?

>>713485046
Based on what?

>>713480221
It is my first Sonic game. I have gotten all the chaos emeralds at least a couple times as well. No, people didn't play the right game if you can hold down and jump to spin dash.

>>713484957
I repeat; if you came in with the comics and cartoons before the games, you are invalid to the franchise and your views are likely skewered in favor of what those mediums presented.

I wish someone would make a Sonic game with generated stages so that I could run forever without getting bored. Why hasn't any fan done it yet? I don't have a good fix for my desire to just randomly run classic stages.

>>713485285

Early screenshot

>>713436005
Mania is so fucking ugly good Lord

>>713485434
Contrarian assface.

I am fucking Sonic

>It's the blue blur-
BRAAAAAAAAAAAP
>I-I'm going to be pla-
BRAAAAAAAAAAAP
>i-i inten-
HAVE A ROTTEN DAY

>>713470740
You wouldn't take a poopa in front of a koopa?

>>713484998
At least he's actually playable in CrossWorlds after being cucked from every racing game prior except for Rivals 2

>>713484308
That's pretty much my point. Feels like the comic writers are getting their fingers into everything nowadays, and the one modern work that has the best takes on the characters by far is the one thing they didn't touch.

>>713484930
That makes some sense, but my point about the writing still stands.

>>713485376
Shut your dorky ass up, i've been a fan since 91. i got a sega genesis with Sonic because I liked the character from the cartoons.
Go fuck yourself you manchild.

>>713485434
What does a handsome hedgehog look like to you

>>713480221
I miss when Sonic was good

>>713486981
>i've been a fan since 91. i got a sega genesis with Sonic because I liked the character from the cartoons
But the cartoons didn't air until 1993.

>>713461267
>contrarian enters the thread

>>713486981
>i've been a fan since 91

>It was the two cartoons and the comic series that got us into sonic.
>us into sonic
>us
>First cartoon appeared in '93 as did the first comic

>>713487289
>>713487830
I'm aware. I was implying I asked for my own console because I became more of a fan from the show.
I never said I didn't know who Sonic was before the cartoon. I had friends that had a Genesis. I watched him play. Then I saw the show and then another show started airing too. By then I thought that was the actual plot of Sonic. So I became a bigger fan and I asked for my own console and made sure Sonic cam with it.
Not everyhing is some conspiracy you fucking nutjobs.

>>713487887
Uh-huh, if you say so.

>>713476497
looks so much nicer at a good rez
thanks for sharing it, gonna make it a wallpaper for my niece's tablet when i visit in a few weeks

Wish I had more money to buy Sonic and SEGA merch.

>>713433003 (OP)
Reminder that Amy is one of the oldest Sonic characters, predating Tails and Knuckles and has every right to be a main character.

>>713488020
I know people having friends is a strange concept to you.

>>713488083
No problem.

Sonic has been doing amazing these past few years, Happy Birthday

>>713473139
wtf sonic would never rape

>>713488141
Reminder that I want to have sex with Amy

>>713488505
Sure, but she only takes it in the butt.

>>713488505
careful, Anon, heterosexual behavior scares sega.

>>713462850
Surprisingly lacking in options compared to Forces

>>713489059
Yeah i noticed that too.

>>713489068
Literally me.

>>713489059
Yeah, it's pretty bare boned for an official sega site.

>>713489126
I wonder what kind of purrfume she wears.

>>713488505
She's so cute.

>>713488619
That's what she'll think at least, right up until the last moment.

Remember to stay hydrated. Happy b-day to the IP.

>>713491832
Whos the fuck is that cat?

>>713492738
Probably a new character Marza made for Lah and her crew of Ghosts, they are planning to do more animations of her in the future they said last year.

>>713433003 (OP)
I'm going to rewatch oneyplays sonic adventure 1 let's play for the 1000th time

>>713470740

>>713470671
It cost you in fun you could have had.
>I don't like socia-
Then you wouldn't be here.

>>713477107
06 is sort of fun as Sonic, having to slog through Shadow's gameplay is awful and Silver is just tedious. I don't know what copers are on when they defend the basic 06 experience beyond P-06 and "potential."

>>713478461
I want Sonic Team to make an actual Sonic game and not Paramount All Stars Racing.

>>713494397
Quit whining, you're worse than an actual real life child. It's insane how some "adults" throw the weirdest tandrums.

>>713480148
Literally no one's favorite Sonic game

>>713483914
>see the credits and realized that nobody from the comics had any involvement in it (to my knowledge)
Didn't the Sonic social media girl help write it or something? All I know of her is that she's a massive Shadamy fan and has an autistic shrine dedicated to them

>>713482327
SWITCH 2 PORT???

>>713480148
Honestly I've replayed Sonic 1 so many times the past few years and really love it now. So much intricate design put into that game it's a shame it gets overshadowed

>>713483914
>it's just everyone's basic characterizations
They made Shadow less Shadow.

>>713494917
That's not a shrine, that's a temple.

>>713494996
Cute

MY HERO

>>713494917
I wonder what this person does when ''she'' is playing or reading Sonic media and Amy does this>>713491152

You may be a Sonic fan, but are you a REAL sonic fan?

>>713497483
Yeah, I'm real enough to know what tacky looks like.

>>713494917
Imagine the nightmare that is dusting off those merch and vacuuming the floor.
I wouldn't want to live like that bro. At least put them in cupboards/shelves.

I like this image of the Greg martin inspired Sonic (might actually be his work?) up against the classic Garfield design.

>>713498071

>>713498159
That's just hoarding at that point

>>713498159
The one Chuck of Cheese kinda ruins it.

>>713494481
Funny how a simple comment is a tantrum to you, especially with how badly you just embarrassed yourself by taking it so seriously.

The only piece of sonic merch I've ever owned was the blue sonic computer mouse from the 15th anniversary PC bundle. My mom ended up using it as the mouse for her computer for a good seven or so years after that too

>>713469882
>How can you be a Sonic fan and not have seen the best vidya movie yet.

>>713499131
Don't mind me, just being invincible.

>Watching a video about the new game's crossovers that also talks the leaked sales numbers
>Turns out some Arzest devs worked on Shadow Generations 2D sections
At this point I expect SEGA to either acquire them so Ohshima stays or have them make a new Classic 2D game alongside Evening Star so it comes out more polished

>>713498738
Technically not a movie.

>>713498738
Overrated by fans

I bought Crossworlds. I'm super excited to dominate people online with my daughterwife Sage.

>>713487829
? I just said what were my first Sonics?

>>713433003 (OP)
Shit, it went right past me. Still have to finish Superstars and Shadow Generations, play through Rush Adventure and maybe replay Unleashed, but it will be a while before I get around to that.

How is CHADnic so FUARKING cool?

>>713505630
Sonic used to be cool in the late 90s and early 00s.

>>713445032>>713445691
>it's become such a corporate brand that it doesn't allow actual strong ideas in anymore
if you're implying that they don't take risks, you're fucking stupid, Frontiers reintroduced combat and made it a core part of the gameplay experience
Judging by the current fan game community, fans would've given Sonic his shitty smash bros moveset of ball moves and forbidden him from throwing a punch
you aren't upset because sonic is playing it safe, you're upset because they franchise isn't playing it the way you want it to, and it really chaps your ass because the games are actually turning out good

>>713446624
>same model from 2005 but slightly edited for over 20 years
Mario has been doing the same for 24+ full fucking years since Luigi's Mansion in 2001 (or the Sunshine beta even earlier in the year at E3 in June) yet no one bitches about it as hard as Sonic fans whine about Sonic's models.

>>713508368
Turning Sonic into an open world action game is perhaps one of the safest things they could've done to the franchise what the fuck are you talking about. It's literally just trend chasing

>>713480221
lange should kill himself for making such a faggy image holy shit
his weird boner for the idea of translating 2D physics into a 3D space 1-to-1 turned sonic discussion into cancer during the months leading up to Frontiers launch
a bunch of hardheaded smug faggots treating the game like the antichrist because Sonic Team decided to do something new instead of making Adventure 3 or (in lange's case) hiring him to make Utopia a real game (the 2017 demo was the smug faggot's idea of "pitching" the idea to Sega after seeing Mania's success)

>>713452248
It's a shame because I liked Tangle better than Whisper.

>>713508594
Nintendo games are all literally the same shit over and over, Mario is expected to be the same. Sonic was all about change until the Colors era.

>>713452248
It's especially lame since Tangle has a best friend that gets ignored so Tangle can be a handkerchief for Whisper to wipe her eyes on. It's like if Sonic replaced Tails for Shadow as his best friend.

>>713508696
>perhaps one of the safest things they could've done to the franchise
fuck no it wasn't especially not if you look at its dev cycle
making open world games isn't easy and making an open zone sonic game definitely wasn't any easier, no other AAA game plays like Frontiers' mixture of dedicated combat and speedy platforming
Sonic games are some of the hardest to design in the industry, that's why they had to scrap their original version of the game to make the final one
it was Sonic Team's last shot, making some pandering Adventure title or retracing Generations/Colors' steps directly would've been the "safe" option. They took a gamble on a new formula and it paid off by being the highest selling 3D sonic game with the best reviews setting the franchise on a higher trajectory

>>713509074
>making open world games isn't easy
Making them as bad as Frontiers's is actually. Hacks do it in Unreal all the time. We mock shit like Utopia for being a tech demo but at least that's fun to move in and has something resembling an art style
>no other AAA game plays like Frontiers' mixture of dedicated combat and speedy platforming
Sonic hasn't been AAA since Unleashed for starters. And its combat is no more involved than any given licensed PS2 game from 20 years ago, and even further it doesn't mix these two aspects of its design at all. They are two styles of gameplay that are at odds with each other and they don't work, and no, the combat in Spark is shit too it just makes up for it by being fun elsewhere.
>it was Sonic Team's last shot, making some pandering Adventure title or retracing Generations/Colors' steps directly would've been the "safe" option
They literally scrap their gameplay formulas every other game. That's why we're in this boat to begin with. Only this time, they chose the most popular cookie cutter mold they could have, with the actual "Sonic parts" literally just being levels lifted from earlier games with reused assets. You cannot get more safe than that.
Modern Sonic Team is filled with incompetent idiots that don't know how to make Sonic games

>>713509073
I've honestly never saw the purpose of Jewel.

>>713480124
>things they have done for the fans demands
We weren't talking about fan demands. We were talking about the creative spark and how Sonic games tend to just follow trends or do fan service now. Either you're the laziest shitposter of all time or you're a bot.

>>713509643
Me neither but Tangle mostly abandoning her is just unfortunate since her with Whisper has never been exciting.

>>713508368
The game blatantly ripped off Breath of the Wild and Nier Automata, two of the biggest Japanese games of 2017 (when production started after Forces wrapped up). It's literally a trend chaser.

>>713509643
A good writer would use her for comedy and contrast. Emphasize how normies like her can't keep up with the others, but also make her hyper competent at her niche. Use it for background jokes, like having her buried in paperwork in one panel and be down to four forms before the page is finished, with one character looking surprised at it but not saying anything.

Not every character needs to be a fighter, but if you're going to have a civvie you need to understand how to write characters interacting beyond "they hit the robot."

>>713508594
People absolutely botched about New Super Mario Bros, and Nintendo finally started updating the models with Odyssey. Fuck, there's been rampant shitposting about DK's updated design, you disingenuous fuck.

>>713486685
I think Evan has a better handle on how the characters talk and act than Ian, but yeah, neither of them have a strong grasp on them. Meanwhile it's literally the marketing team's job to understand each little character tic, so yeah, they got them right.

I'm drinking coffee from my Sonic mug

I wouldn't be surprised if Ian Flynn just AI generate his scripts because they sure sound like that nowadays.

>>713511552
He absolutely doesn't. He tries way too hard for that. The problem is he doesn't revise shit and plugs up any holes with "member this?"

>>713511707
I wouldn't consider references an example of trying "way too hard".

>>713511754
That's the opposite of what I said. He phones in references to plug gaps in the scripts after the fact. His biggest issue is he tries way too hard to make his first draft of a script work instead of actually revising, so you end up with shit like pages of Sonic explaining his rationale or characters jumping out in front of criticism of the story before readers get a chance to say it.

If he was just phoning in the stories themselves he wouldn't waste time trying to "fix" and "defend" his stories.

>>713510737
>BotW is the only open world game
K

>>713514329
It's the only multi million selling open world game released in 2017 with a big ancient ruins motif, yeah. It also has Koroks. You can be dishonest about it if you want, I guess.

>>713498738
It's pretty good for what it was.

>>713433003 (OP)
to draw

Who here loves Hedgehogs?

>>713514802
BOTW is fucking boring

>>713510737
And Evangelion

>>713512169
NTA but what example can you provide about your complaint?

>>713519137
They literally admitted to be inspired by Evangelion to appeal to Japan more since mostly the west is into Sonic. Japan can barely care a less about him since 1999 when he stopped being cute and marketable.

>>713499131
>>713499256

>>713518971
I thought you were trying to say Frontiers is nothing like BOTW

>>713488141
Flickies are actually the oldest Sonic Characters

>>713519467
I'm not the anon you were originall talking to.
But Frontiers "being botw" doesn't actually mean anything considering Botw is nonsense and boring. Sonic Frontiers is mostly boring too but the boss fights? BotW doesn't even have fights that engaging even at the final showdown.

>>713484998
He even swears in Shadow 05 I think he says Damn

And one of his Rank Quotes in Heroes swears death upon Eggman

>>713519137
>Talk humanoid looking thing
>"ThEy RiPpEd OfF EvAn!!!"
Do you reaally want to go down the rabbit hole who copied off who from what franchise? because if you think Evangelion is some original idea of giant creatures that need to be destroyed...I got bad news for you kiddo.
Also Evangelion is overrated.

>>713519842
Damn isn't a swear word if you're not from pre 1980's anon.

>character never wear pants
>no one cares
>alternate version wears pants
>seeing them removed suddenly becomes hot

What provokes this?

>>713519818
You're confusing spectacle for an engaging fight. The fights themselves are very shallow

>>713519952
Wait Wait Wait, I found this image and I was like "Damn I kinda do see the similarities" I don't even like Evangelion and I don't plan on watching it. Also SAGE and Rei have the same Japanese VA

>>713520983
He owes me sex

>>713521189
Frontiers fights is the best Sonic 3D fights. I dare you to tell me a Sonic 3D boss fight that is better than any fight in Frontiers.
I double fucking dare you.

>>713522089
Nothing matters in Evangelion because the world ends anyways.
There, i saved you hours of your life watching stupid teenage cringe just to watch a few minutes of giant fighting.

>>713522915
Nope, Shinji saves the world and everyone (except Misato) lives a happy life. But only after Shinji gets a big titty girlfriend and leaves the anime behind.

>>713433003 (OP)
Where did the eggs in the salad come from?

>>713523036
The store? There's other food items on that picture you fucking brainlet.

>>713519163
Depends on what you mean. There's a lot for both extremes. People regularly mock Sonic explaining his morals in #50 at length, but even the last two issues open on characters blabbering about past stories instead of actually telling a story. The entire pacing of the story is impacted by shit like Sonic needing to address every possible criticism of the Sonic Riders arc to the Chaotix.

Meanwhile, most of the reference dialogue is slotted into ad lib situations where what the character is actually saying isn't very important. So when you have three panels of "Sonic and Eggman argue for a bit" it turns into song lyrics. Because it's quick and easy to slip in.

>>713523072
The meat conundrum is a new hot button for the Sonic community.

>>713523527
These are kind of weird complaints since majority of slap stick cartoon character driven comics do the exact same thing.
What exactly are you wanting from a series about a cartoon hedgehog that ruins plans of a mad scientist for a long period of time and has limitations set by the company that owns the franchise?
Because I do not want the mess like Archie allowed Penders to create with his cringy girly teen drama or his fanfic levels of fan shipping.

>>713523803
No it's not.

What's the best Sonic ship?
https://strawpoll.com/7rnzVqM1DnO

>>713524081
None
Sonic doesn't commit to anything.
Quit being fags. Relationships are overrated and Sonic has zero intentions on slowing down nor settling down.
I hate you furfags with a passion.

>>713524409
I'll mark you down as Sonic/Chilli Dogs. I knew I missed one of the big ships.

I still don't like how this played out. even if her actual role in the franchise has yet to be revealed.

>>713524880
I don't even know what the fake hype about this broad is supposed to even be.

>>713525316
It was a lot of things, you had to be there. It's speculation combined with hints that there was actually some substance to it and so far it hasn't paid off at all but they haven't necessarily discounted that it won't pay off either.

>>713508858
how is he wrong tho? Frontiers has bad movement physics

>>713525316
Her design was showed off 3 YEARS before that Tailstube and at the time I thought she was gonna be for Frontiers

>>713525872
I'd say only in cyberspace. Outside of cyberspace I quite liked running around.

>>713525316
*knowing smile*

>>713525892
Plus (original poster, BTW) why bother slipping her into the movie? This went way beyond what you would consider "a reference". It served no purpose other than subliminal hype.

There are clever nods to make for longtime fans but this was way, WAY over that line.

>>713510713
>>713510880
The funny thing is that the comic tackled both of these problems, but in a quick way just wrote them off. The Tangle abandoning Jewel? Go on a campy trip. Jewel getting deep into work? Make her leader of the Restoration. Jewel still feels gimped because for someone important to Tangle, she doesn't show up enough, especially when they're at the Restoration.

>>713433003 (OP)
crushing 30s indeed.

>>713525904
I thought it was boring because you don't have many movement options to consider. You are just boosting in straight lines

>>713526383
Meh, tightening down the sense of moving around the world went a long way for me. I wasn't asking for much besides that. Shadow Generations expanded on that control finesse.

>>713526076
>knowing smile so much that you killed your own podcast because the bosses got mad
lol.

It's time to revive it

>>713526535
Seemed like the other way around. He was talking more than smiling and then the rein-holders realized they needed to clamp down.

>>713526461
>tightening down the sense of moving around the world went a long way for me. I wasn't asking for much besides that.
That's fair.
>Shadow Generations expanded on that control finesse.
It did? I thought it had more or less the same controls

>>713526615
Shadow handles better at speed than Sonic does. Sonic Frontiers improved lower speed movement while Shadow Generations increased the sense of control at top speed.

>>713433003 (OP)
sonic is shit.

>>713525460
I was there, i watched the Tails Tube. Still don't get the big deal.

>>713525892
Again, 3 years later, still nothing.

>>713526076
>>713526535
>>713526590
The fuck are you even going on about?

>>713526383
>You are just boosting in straight lines
How the hell did you manage that without some random big enemy introduction cutscene or some random ass obsticle course popping infront of you throwing you in the opposite direction?

>>713526815
>Again, 3 years later, still nothing.

Only because they squandered the payoff to the mystery on a random walk-on appearance, not that they've explained everything else that has taken shape over that timeframe (the fact she shares her Japanese name with the person who wrote the Journal's foreword in Shadow Gens and that Maria revealed she has a younger sister that seems somewhat relevant in the way it was brought up).

>>713526896
I just try to be far away from mini bosses and I try to avoid all the Sonic gimmicks like springs and dash panels. That works most of the time for me.

>>713526815
>The fuck are you even going on about?
Any time the Sonic IP had an announcement or some event in the works (or something he had a hand in), Ian would make a post with #knowingsmile, trying to hype up people.

My commitment to Sonic may have reached a nadir with my most recent purchase...

>>713526815
>The fuck are you even going on about?

Ian lost the privilege about being more expository about the franchise's deeper lore elements because Sega were getting concerned he was starting to elaborate on things they were keeping stowed away for future projects.

>>713527303
What was your recent purchase?

>>713527340
>>713527265
I don't see SEGA being THAT protective. They still allow fan games to be a thing and they allowed Archie to run rampant until the Penders situation.

>>713526564
>New Sonic show with his siblings from the Manga & Sonic Underground is made.

>>713527531
Let's stop acting like people gave a remote shit about the manga

>>713527429
>What was your recent purchase?

Rebuying this motherboard instead of trying to RMA it again out of concerns over missing the deadline (which is very soon, if it's even taken as a valid claim given I'm trying to RMA something a a year after I received an RMA board in the first place), even though buying another one forced me to spend more since it's out of print now, all in the name of taking one last stab at doing my Sonic PC properly.

The one I've already got just has some instabilities that I've never figured out properly, which may or may not be my fault (I can't tell if I fucked up a pin on the socket).

>>713527690
I didn't even know this was a thing.

>>713527429
>I don't see SEGA being THAT protective.
They are since now all questions regarding Sonic on his podcast have to be vetted by Sega themselves.
On his site this has bee crossed out, but I can't seem to find any update that goes against it.
https://bumbleking.com/bumblekast-in-2025/
As for fan games, it's still all good so long as the fan work in question isn't trying to make money. That's why the Triple Trouble Remake was allowed to florish.

>>713527690
There's also a chance the board itself may just be shit in general. AsRock isn't an amazing manufacturer, in my experience.

But at this point I just need to know for sure.

What's worse is I think the GPU I was using with this PC may have ALSO crapped out, meaning I'm looking to have to replace that (although the way I want to do that will involve replacing a different PC's GPU with something better and then carrying its GPU over to this computer, so long as I can afford the GPU I'm targeting for that system).

>>713528009
>As for fan games, it's still all good so long as the fan work in question isn't trying to make money. That's why the Triple Trouble Remake was allowed to florish.
Which makes no sense because technically most fan games get money via ad revenue from places like youtube for promoting it and even "reviewers" are being paid by companies to even cover it.
Not to mention the other fan animated projects

>>713523860
>These are kind of weird complaints since majority of slap stick cartoon character driven comics do the exact same thing.
That's a weirdly specific statement and I really don't remember the part in Groo where Sergio screwed his own pacing just to clarify a bunch of stuff that doesn't matter to his audience. Don't remember Asterix or Bone doing it. Am I reading the wrong Topolino?

This isn't even shitting on him, I'm just saying anon is wrong for saying Ian phones the stories in. He clearly cares. Sometimes I think he cares too much and it hurts his comics. I think the only thing he phones in are the references.

>What exactly are you wanting from a series about a cartoon hedgehog that ruins plans of a mad scientist for a long period of time and has limitations set by the company that owns the franchise?
Fun bite-sized stories, mostly. I hope it appeals to kids in general, not just Sonic fans.

>Because I do not want the mess like Archie allowed Penders to create with his cringy girly teen drama or his fanfic levels of fan shipping.
Cool, nobody mentioned any of that.

>>713527690
Is this Sega's first new console since the 90s...?

>>713528732
>Fun bite-sized stories, mostly. I hope it appeals to kids in general, not just Sonic fans.
People are preferring manga to american comics for decades now. Manga stories have story archs, character development, passages of time.

>>713528874
My favorite serialized narratives: Roboco and Azumanga Daioh.

Come off it. You're just pivoting now. You even acknowledged that the license restrains what they can do.

>>713443276
Yeah. I'm thinking I'm glad Sega is strict with how the west handles Sonic because I know fags will run amok and make 'Sonic the Hedgehog' about anything other than Sonic and friends. Like most people with Sonic OCs, they just cannot control themselves and HAVE to insert something of themselves.

>>713445948
>give fans what they want
>Implying fans wanted Nick slop and Mineshat from the beginning in Crossworlds rather than more Sega characters or, heaven forbid, more Sonic characters

>>713444961
You lost.
Just buy it.

>>713446564
>Crossworlds has Denuvo
I don't want to deal with hackers online.
Blow me.

>>713530209
On one hand Sega still wants to pretend like their target audience isn't 30-year olds who keep clutching to this series.

On the other...it's obvious Paramount is in Sega's ear thanks to the movie connecting them.

>>713442591
THIS FUCKING FRANCHISE, I SWEAR.

>>713479009
Yeah I disagree fully compared to what we got before (Generations and Forces) Frontiers and Shadow Generations put way more effort in the stories don't know what you're talking about

>>713531149
>The franchise isn't creatively dead because there are some older games that also didn't try.
You retard.

It's hard to make posts that will be seen as intelligent by /v/.

>>713531540
nigga what? So you think Frontiers and Shadow Generations creativity bankrupt why?

>>713528368
It's always a grey area because fan works in question aren't technically allowed to receive any revenue. Like, an artist, by law, isn't really allowed to offer commissions based on protected IPs (someone being paid to draw Pokemon when that said someone isn't apart of TPC). Some companies like Nintendo will smack down fan games in the course of protecting their IPs, while companies like Sega will be just fine even if the project makes little pennies, just not a lot to attract attention (like locking said fan game behind a paywall of $20).
To many big companies, it would just be waste of time to go after some artist on DA or Tumblr when there are bigger fish to fry, like the current lawsuit being filed by Disney/Universal against Midjourney.

>>713531861
Because it's navel gazing. It can only iterate upon itself, it doesn't have any actual ideas. Old games would go in all kinds of crazy directions and introduce new shit entirely in service of the story. For well over a decade, Sonic's been stuck looking back in on itself exclusively.

Frontiers is about what already exists, it isn't actually saying anything new. Same for Shad Gen, same for Sonic Gens. It isn't going to swing for the fences and take bold risks that might not pay off. An idea as wild as Shadow being a fucking alien whose biological father is Satan would never be in Shadow Gens if it hadn't already been established.

The series has been firmly jacking itself off for years now. It's too self obsessed, too corporate, too fandom aware to just do its own thing.

>>713532739
>Frontiers is about what already exists, it isn't actually saying anything new

Sage, The Ancients, The End, Cyberspace and Sonic's new combat abilities are all new for the franchise I'll give Shadow Gens since it's basically Sonic Gens but better,

but what exactly asking for exciting directions? They already did tat multiple times the story book games, Shadow the hedgehog and Sonic Lost world and those games didn't do so hot

What exactly do you want?

>>713534012
Lost World is just as creatively bankrupt as the other examples. It's "new", but having "new" things isn't intrinsically creative. They exist solely for marketing. They do not exist for the story or the themes or any actual ideas, they were just pushed because Sonic Team wanted to make Sonic more like Mario.

The issue isn't if new stuff is in a game. It's if a game has a creative voice and makes things for the purpose of that voice. Games like Unleashed and Shadow and SA2 take fucking wild swings, but that's because those things help the ideas they want to get across. The fuck does Frontiers have to say? What does Sage actually add here besides giving Eggman something to dote on?

It's not like Professor Pickle was worth a damn, but his existence comes from an attempt to give a specific mood and presentation to a story about the world as a whole and our cultures. Sonic stopped really making stories that happened to be Sonic and put brand identity first and foremost. The ancients aren't shit and their identity is irrelevant to Frontiers' story. At its core, that game is just about vaguely examining the existing cast, it's stuck on itself.

>>713519496
By the same logic, Lololo and Lalala are the oldest Kirby characters.

>>713534012
NTA but even something like Sonic Advance 3 has more substance than Frontiers.

>>713535775
Lost World feels like a product of SEGA making a deal to give Nintendo three new Sonic games, which also resulted in the catastrophic Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric.

Yeah, Frontiers is mostly just introspection as you say, and as a chapter in a continuing story doesn't offer much other than another thing for Sonic to deal with.
The elements of the Sonic series from game to game continue to be incongruous, but that's usually never the focus because as you say the goal is to push a product to market, and let the product work in isolation.

>>713526564
yeah, she's a cutie and a hottie all wrapped in one.

>>713535775
The purpose of the Ancients was to explain how the emeralds first got to earth and the main purpose of Cyberspace which was to hold memories and as a jail for The End, Sage was created by eggman to research and document what exactly Cyberspace is in turn through out he game Eggman grows attached to Sage, Sage also gets attached to eggman via Sonic showing compassion for his friends, through the notes of eggman we also even more stuff about Cyberspace. There is stuff in Frontiers your describing as "Taking wild swings" like the Cyber Corruption and the whole End fiasco

>>713536746
If only they didn't cheap out on the voice work. That could have been one (small) point in Underground's favor but, nope, just another example of why the show is abhorrent.

I can't wait to play CrossWorlds

>>713537129
I know a lot of Sonic fans are autistic but there's no way you're this dense.

>>713446564
>Giving the fans what they want
>Crossworlds has Denuvo
yes, fans actually buy the games
brazilian shitposters ritualistically spamming the same shit in their insane generals who claim to be fans yet don't contribute a dime but it's ok because "they spread the word" are not fans

>>713491152
the only good panel from IDW-dogshit ever

>>713519137
Good. all this shit was kino, they should rip it off more

>>713494917
What the fuck.

Although I wasn't really bothered by the implication of Shadow going out with Amy on that story.

Frontiers is commercialized gameplay demo. Thats fun to think about. Its a showcase how Sonic game could play, thats then given enough content to put a prize tag on it.

>>713539758
holy ESL

>>713540143
Glad you agree.

>>713444342
I cant see the Sonic 3 poster without thinking about the Mass Effect Andromeda post where the twins have incest sex, and the sister is autistic so her psycho brother looks at her Sonic 3 poster guiltily thinking "two in the pink one in the stink"

>>713541070
Meant to quote >>713480490

>>713538456
Resorting to insults doesn't make you right, listen we can agree to disagree you think sonic corporate pozzed I think it's actually getting better clearly we don't see eye to eye and that's fine

>>713541627
I'm absolutely going to call you names if you think cyberspace was the creative locus instead of an excuse for the stages that they added significance to afterwards.

>>713528368
What? It was a topic years ago that fangames/rom hacks are (understandably) not allowed to get money, but longplay channels could run ads on those works without issue

>>713542217
They can't really prevent it though. As long as the creator did not directly recieve funds in exchange for the product.
However, there are loopholes.

Happy B-Day, Sonic.

>>713536491
Hell no nigga, bad faith af you should've said Sonic Battle and I would've agreed whole wholesale

>>713542376
NTA but elaborate

>>713542376
Gemerl has more going on than Sage with 0 dialogue.

>>713525316
People were just horny for this npc. That's it.

>>713542809
Not even close

>>713542440
The story of emerl slowly getting a personality throughout the game and the final encounter vs Sonic where emerl wanted to fight with sonic even though he was unstable was definitely a lot more tension and emotion compared to Frontiers not to say frontiers is awful

>>713527620
Don't like the tales of Nick T. Hedgehog?!

>>713543173
No

Jet's new voice sucks so bad wave and storm sound great, do we it's the same VA for the both of them?

>>713544460
It's probably Dave Mitchell (Knuckles' VA since TSR) as Storm and I can see them having brought back Kate Higgins to be Wave since she was Wave in Free Riders. Jet is also voiced by his Free Riders voice actor

>>713544705
Ok, man I mis Jason Griffith so bad lmao