New Ross video. It's a PirateSoftware BTFO video.
https://youtu.be/HIfRLujXtUo?si=LFoQ6t4jvdbkVeQb

>>713440292 (OP)
>this temper tantrum over ubislop is finally coming to an end
Good riddance.

SAVE US MOLD MAN!!!!

No fucking way Asmongold is still talking about this shit

Is Maldavius Figtree even around anymore?
I feel like he fell off the face of the Earth after the one-two punch of shitting on SKG and then roaching in HC WoW.

>>713440958
lol

>>713440292 (OP)
Why would you expose yourself to the public whilst being a weird molester looking autist like this dude? Doesn't he have money to fix his hair and teeth and all that shit?

>>713440991
Still streams for an average of 10 hours a day and still hasn't updated his game.

PirateGODware won.

>>713440292 (OP)
The petition is still going to fail lol. And he should have done this half a year ago.

>>713440483
Why can't he just be excited for the next product.

>>713440483
saaaaaaaaaaaaaSSSSSSSSSAAAAAAAAAAAR

>>713440292 (OP)
>1:01:23
i aint watching allat
chatgpt give me a quick rundown

>>713440292 (OP)
The whole thing probably blackpilled Ross like crazy. But if he paid attention to modern gaming as a whole this was all a long time coming. Hell people always bring up how much horse armor for oblivion was mocked and yet it sold incredibly well and continues too. Gamers are retarded sheep there is no saving them

>>713440483
>>713441060
>>713441073
>>713441076
hello sirs

>>713440292 (OP)
fuck piratesoftware, he's the biggest, gayest industry plant there is

>>713440292 (OP)
500 signatures is still a crazy numbers but what can you do when the system is rigged.

>>713440292 (OP)
>hour long
>first 25 mins coping and making excuses for why it didn't succeed when it "should have".
>the last 36 mins is him whining about PirateSoftware.

It never was going to succeed. Ross is just bitter that Thor pointed out the holes in his movement and blames him for all of his own failings.

>>713440292 (OP)
Only reason I know any of those two names is because /v/ can't stop sucking their bocks

>>713441259
>proves thor is a retard in the first 2 minutes of the segment
Take your (you) and kill yourself.

>>713441259
Before of after he pointed out the holes in why he wasn't in the wrong for leaving his WoW raid to die?

4chan really is nothing but shills and bots now, huh? Ross rules, and you're gay if you don't like him.

>>713440991
some furry exposed his furry erp chat logs on xitter recently

>

>>713441423
Liking his game dungeon videos doesn't mean I can't think he's a retard for making this petition

>>713440292 (OP)
Does this mean we get more than 3 Game Dungeons (two are Halloween and Christmas) a year now?

who?

>>713441553
Jaded cynicism is so boring and played out. We're born to die; every battle is ultimately pointless. The point is in where you put your effort, do you might as well do what you believe is right, especially when it comes to standing up to corporate greed.

>>713441259
You didn't even watch the video. little thor was btfo, cope and seethe

>>713441617
you get one extra per year because one game dungeon is spent on government shit and the other is spent on The Movie

MOLLLLD MAN SAVE US FROM PIRATE COOOMSUMERIMS GOONING HACK

>>713441706
The point is to get money and fuck bitches moron lmfao.

being a man used to mean something
now we got 40 year olds living out their fantasies of being a sports mascot and begging lawmakers to stop companies from taking their video games away

>>713441706
Not interested in more government mandates. Fuck off.

>>713441858
Like I said, boring and played.

>>713440292 (OP)
This nigger needs to just shave his head

>>713441151
>>713441183
>white people starting the problem
>"but no no it was anything but us"
A tale as old as time.

>>713440292 (OP)
could someone just email pewdiepie or something

>>713441927
Sorry your a poor ugly incel.

>>713441925
>nooo you can't tell greedy sociopaths to have a modicum of responsibility in their business dealings
oy vey

>>713442046
Yawn

Point of the movement
>Companies should release the source code to live service games so people who bought it can still play on private servers once they go down
What /v/ thinks the movement is
>COMPANIES SHOULD KEEP UP THESE OLD GAMES FOREVER! SOMEONE THINK OF THE POOR COMPANIES!

I don't really blame Pirate that much for this even though I hate him and wish him nothing but the worst, I kind of blame Trump.
SKG was struggling to get peoples' attention during Biden, a comparatively "boring" administration. The current one is going out of their way to draw attention and freak people out like every week. SKG regaining momentum was a long-shot before the political circus arrived. Afterwards the thought of it breaking out enough for people to engage in some activism over it was impossible. Too much overwhelming shit happening.

>>713442167
Half of them are shills, the other half were failed by the education system.

>>713442038
He goes over why he didn't do this in the video

>>713440483
>>713441060
>>713441073

>>713442373
well we shoud do it for him

>>713442167
unironically they should keep it running, if they want to push liveservice that hard. Concord should be still up.

>>713442373
What's the reason?
I'm not wasting an hour watching it

>>713442167
>you should release private intellectual property (((for free))) after spending time and money to create it because... because you just have to, okay??

>>713442639
>(((intellectual property)))
If the game isn't (((profitable))) anymore and is being taken offline, then it doesn't matter if someone has the server code.

>>713442534
>>713442553
Timestamp is here:
https://youtu.be/HIfRLujXtUo?t=925

Can't believe the furfag won

>>713441943
>white people starting the problem
>paying indians peanuts and toilet paper to act like bots online

>>713442639
Already debunked, retard.

>>713442167
The amount of people I see saying shit like
>yeah but the game wouldn't work without a central server
in regards to SKG is infuriating. That's the fucking point you mongoloid, the game WOULDN'T work without it, so let's stop making games reliant on a central server.

If this guy was attractive then SKG would have passed

>>713442639
>>>you should release private intellectual property (((for free)))
It's all in the AI anyway, I don't know if you've noticed but IP doesn't exist anymore, everything you do is going into a database and everyone can copy it by paying the database owners.

I guess gamers just don't like being able to play their games.

>>713442946
are there that many fags and women in gaming?

>biggest actor against SKG is a furry retard that probably stole breast milk during his time at blizzard
Can't make this shit up.

>>713442180
I doubt it would have gone through either way regardless of people becoming distracted though. It's hard to get people to give a shit about anything other than immediate convenience.

>>713443106
maybe? regardless everyone prefers listening to an attractive person and would be more likely to support

>>713441060
>attack the person, not the argument
Worm.

>>713440991
He lost like 75% of his viewers after getting exposed and is now basically a lolcow.
He lost all credibility. No one takes anything he says seriously.
He's now known as "that one Nepo baby who hasn't accomplished anything on his own but speaks on every subject like he's an expert despite knowing nothing, and who cheats while streaming games and is a huge narcissit and chronic liar

Someone with a reddit account post this on Asmong gold's reddit so he can make a response.

>>713443419
https://www.reddit.com/r/Asmongold/comments/1likc53/the_end_of_stop_killing_games/

Someone already did. Give it updoots

He lost and EU won.

>>713443419
>asmongold watches it
>goes "ohh... well i guess thor might be wrong but i think he's onto something"
>circlejerks thor because he talked to him once

>>713443553
No, tell me

>>713443581
>>713443550
Doesn't matter. Getting people to see the campaign is good for it.

>>713442946
If only someone made a vtuber avatar for ross

>>713443550
Upshitted

>>713443719
Ooooh, make it Gordon Freeman! Or would that be blasphemous?

>>713440292 (OP)
PirateSoftware won the battle, but he lost the war.
But Ross also lost his war. But he's probably just gonna go back to making videos and the movie now.
So, in the end, I won.

>>713444014
>I won.
Who?

>>713443550
Upshit

>>713442946
sad but true

>>713442946
homo

>>713444014
So we shall reign.

>>713440292 (OP)
It's really insane PirateSoftware was a popular as he was.

>>713440483
shalom

>>713445371
Redditers are retarded

>>713445371
Why?

>>713440292 (OP)
I fucking kneel ross, youre the fucking best

>start a movement where the only people really passionate about it are neets
>be shocked when it fails
Protip, after 25 gaming should not be your primary hobby, go do something else
Maybe if he expanded this movement beyond shitty videogames and actually made it apply to software that affects everyone then it could've gone somewhere

>>713445418
Because there's nothing to like about him.

>>713445371
Everything you ever see on any modern website has been because an algorithm showed it to you. There is no quality/morality/sensibility control he just hit a niche well and blew up.

>>713445418
who the fuck has the time to watch some faggot fake "programme" for 5 hours while saying nothing of note? Might as well watch porn or other celebs of you're gonna brainrot that hard anyway

Buy an ad

>>713445507
It was literally the 2nd most popular EU initiative of the year. It's just that no initiative actually reach the million mark

Why the petition was about pointing a problem without solution?
Why not pointing out that every online FPS couldn't be model like UT99 instead of making retarded MMO player shit their pants?

>>713440292 (OP)
Based, fuck corporate shills.

>>713445920
I HAVE TO MAKE THE MOVIE

>>713440292 (OP)
>Thor gets everything wrong
>Actively tells people games should be taken away
>Refuses to talk with anyone about it
Amazing how much damage one man can do

>>713445863
Why not learning English so you can read the website FAQ?

>>713445863
It did have one. You are a stupid jeet

>>713446004
What goes around comes around.

>>713445850
>>It was literally the 2nd most popular EU initiative of the year.
oh wow lmfao anyway you fuckers gonna do shit about us nuking iran LMFAO lil bro thinks he's ppl drink ur milk

>in the future you will own NOTHING and you will like it
today it's corpo greed trying to control video games and other digital software, but in 25 years it'll be corporations attempting to control everything in our lives. every product will be a temporary license, you won't own anything, and every thing you buy even down to your fucking toilet paper is going to be deeply controlled and regulated by the corporations

at the risk of sounding gay, SKG is like the last gasp of a society who was born outside the hyper-capitalist system trying to defeat it. this is the most effort anyone's put into defending consumer laws and if this failed, no future campaigns to improve consumer protection laws will succeed, and our fate is sealed. we will eat the bugs, live in the pods, own nothing, and like it. our society is doomed.

>>713440292 (OP)
I wonder if the initiative would have had better luck if he actually made this video earlier, or if PirateSoftware had lost his perceived credibility before this.

>>713446168
Jeet babble

>>713445863
Multiple solutions were offered up in the initiative

>>713446168
Saar, what's it like eating shit?

>>713440292 (OP)
>35:20
What a fucking piece of shit "Thor" is

>>713443252
I'd much rather listen to mold than to some faggy pretty boy.

>>713445850
>It's just that no initiative actually reach the million mark
Have they no shame to rig it like that?

>>713446181
I don't think pirate actually hurt the movement really. It's not like people can give negative signatures

>>713446168
What the fuck are you talking about

Serious question. Is /v/ this dumb to understand what Stop Killing Games was about? Or we really have good amount shills here? Paid or otherwise

>>713443390
>75% of his viewers
25% still supporting him is a concerning number.

If there was any doubt /v/ is infested with AAA marketers and shills these threads are proof. The only reason to be against SKG is if you are a room temp IQ troglodyte or on a corporate payroll.

>>713446004
the guy is an enormous retard. right after he got his dungeon group killed, he logged onto that other MMO he was shilling, made a mistake that got the raid wiped, immediately threatened to kick whoever was responsible, then started backpedaling when people pointed out he was the one who wiped the raid, coming up with a dozen gay excuses on how it wasn't actually his fault

he's a huge faggot and surprise, huge faggots flock to his streams because they don't know any better

>>713446168
It had to start in EU because US bros have no rights.

>>713440292 (OP)
It's actually still crazy to me how people listened to that narcissistic fuck.

>>713446279
Ross says the signatures definitely slumped afterwards.

>>713446312
Same reason PirateFaggot doesn't understand it: they're shills.

>>713446275
It's a fake way to make people think they have a choice.

>>713442167
/v/ is full of actual retards and contrarians looking for that sweet, sweet (You) for every bait they post. Of course eveyr thread needs to go over these simple facts mutliple times because a good chunk of people here are just that stupid or actually spend every waking hour pretending to be.

>>713446312
Most people just don't care about dogshit like The Crew

Last hope now is if some drama youtuber cuts up ross' vid with a bunch of btfo meme edits to captivate 3rd world zoomers for more than 5 sec to sign something for once in their life.
Sad state of affairs.

>>713446279
A potential EU giving no signature is basically the same thing

>>713444014
>But Ross also lost his war.
No wonder his petition didnt succeed with this kind of brain rotted numbnuts trying to interpet the world around them.

>>713440292 (OP)
holy shit is that gordon freeman

>>713440292 (OP)
this should have been a broad-based movement called Keep Servers Alive that affected all SaaS. calling it Stop Killing Games, a misleading name which doesn't actually express the goal, and making it only about games is what caused the movement to fail because people hear the name and immediately dismiss it as gamer manchild shit that can be safely ignored.

>>713445850
>It was literally the 2nd most popular EU initiative of the year.
Imagine bragging that you're the 2nd biggest loser. I hope they shut down another shitty ubislop game just to make fun of that smelly retard and his dumb petition.
>>713446312
It was a stupid petition made by someone who doesn't understand the industry. There's bigger problems that need fixing before everyone drops everything to make sure some youtuber can make a 3 hour long slop video about a dead racing game. Ross is exhibiting sociopathic behavior for even trying to get people to make legislation about this shit while there are kids starving in Africa and there are people dying in wars and anti semitism is on the rise. Fuck him.

>>713446424
https://www.reddit.com/r/Asmongold/comments/1likc53/the_end_of_stop_killing_games/

Upshit this so Asmongold (drama youtuber) talks about it

>>713446573
>Keep Servers Alive
Misinfo

>>713446635
SAAAAAAAAAAR

>>713446312
Definitely shills. They've been working from a script ever since these threads started. Don't for a moment think that publishers, especially Ubisoft in this case, won't spend resources on combating these initiatives. After all, we already know that real, actual shills are paid to post on 4chan

>>713446312
It's summer and current year 2016+9, over 75% of 4chan is made up of zoomers who have literally never played a video game that didn't have DLC or an online server to connect to

remember how when diablo3 came out and it forced an online connection, how it was massive major gaming news that overshadowed the whole game? because back then the people playing diablo3 were old geezers who played diablo2 and remembered what it was like to own your games and have full control over them

now I would like to point out to you that diablo4, which came out 11 years later, also forces an online connection to play. how many news articles pointed this out? how many people got upset over it?

none. fucking none. because the people who remember how digital consumer rights have become eclipsed by babies who were born into the system and don't comprehend what it was like before.

>>713446279
What >>713446373 said. He can't take signatures away, but he might have prevented some.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Asmongold/comments/1likc53/the_end_of_stop_killing_games/
PISS OFF JEETS

UPVOTE THIS

>>713444014
he didn't win shit he just yapped and gagged like a fucking total queer with an opinion. worthless opinion more like

>>713446635
>Ross is exhibiting sociopathic behavior for even trying to get people to make legislation about this shit while there are kids starving in Africa and there are people dying in wars
>literally ALL discussions about EVERY topic have to CEASE until kids in africa are no longer starving
If you're a paid shill you're doing a terrible job faking it and I'm reporting you to your manager. Please get better bait.

>>713446706
>consumer rights have become eclipsed by babies who were born into the system and don't comprehend what it was like before.
as intended

>>713440292 (OP)
Clean your links bro

>>713440292 (OP)
Is it too much to ask for regular game dungeons instead of drama shit or poorly thought out activism?

>>713446635
>and anti semitism is on the rise.
You're trying too hard

>>713446706
>because back then the people playing diablo3 were old geezers who played diablo2 and remembered what it was like to own your games and have full control over them
So the ones complaining were also the ones actively supporting companies to fuck them over

>>713446714
lol
lmao even
jeets

>>713441553
>I can't think he's a retard for making this petition
Why would you think that. What kind of faggot thinks like this
>nooooo you can't try to do things you'll only fail
What are you scared of bitch boy?

>>713445850
Recently an initiative to ban LGBTQ+ conversion therapy reached a million.

>>713446714
Updooted

>>713446706
>who have literally never played a video game
You could have stopped right there and been fully accurate.

This whole thing was a psyop to finally break the spirits of anyone remaining hoping for anything good

>>713446312
Part shills and part people who act like shills to keep the thread active.

>>713446706
Have you considered just not being a perpetual cry baby? 11 years ago internet connections were flakier so naturally people got a little mad about the diablo 3 always on connection. Now if your home internet goes down you can literally just turn your phones hotspot on and keep playing. Your boomer offline bullshit lost the same way the horse and buggy lost. You're a relic of a time forgotten, either move on or accept your an old and gay fossil.

>>713447148

anyone has this ross edit but hes wearing terrorist attire

>Hear me out?
>RAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCIIIIIIISSSSSSST
...
I'm so sick of these people.

>>713446642
He already did a thing on him. I meant more like a "THE FASTEST RISE (AND FALL) OF A YOUTUBER" "DISGRACED" with a thumb of piratesoftware and cropped gay furry porn. Easy 5 mil views for the dramatuber and it wouldn't be a stretch to fit in a 2 min explanation of the petition inbetween vineboom sound fx of Ross saying he's dumb. Someone besides Ross needs to make it since his vids are honestly really boring on this since he has to be a spokesperson.

>>713447148
Corruption thrives in the age of disinfo.

>>713446661
this is why you lost

>>713446714
Signed

At least the initiative created an official whiteness map of europe, everyone not in green are niggers.

>>713447290

>>713447148
Considering how long Ross was complaining about this (6+ years . No joke) . Nah.

>>713441553
he was giga based for trying to do something, unlike literally everyone else on this board

>>713447517
thanks anon

>>713447148
Perhaps it was just too early. As more games start to die and more people become aware, the more likely it is that something will be done about. Remember how EA fucked up loot boxes in Battlefront 2, leading to a bunch of laws being passed because the case was so bad that it reached lawmakers on its own

>>713440292 (OP)
This guy really tried to take a company to court and force them to either keep servers up indefinitely or give away their IP for free

>>713447602
SAAAAAAAAR

>>713447602
He did none of that

>>713447602
>This guy really tried to take a company to court and force them to either keep servers up indefinitely or give away their IP for free
He didn't even make it to court. That would actually require actual effort. He made a petition and then milked his shut-in NEET gooner audience to sign it and make videos about it so that he could make money off the advertising revenue. He's a demon.

>>713447602
alright, provide source on that

I never touched anything PirateSoftware-related, but dang, no wonder /v/ like him

>>713446829
if by supporting companies you mean buying diablo2 a decade prior? yeah I guess (you retard)

Blizzard are fucking CUNTS for giving SC2 LAN options.

>>713447473
Benis :DDDD

>>713447770
he can just play video games for videos and make even more cash from that, stop being a retarded little faggot

>>713447770
He got nearly 500k signatures with his persistence, that's pretty impressive for a man made of mold

libtoid lefturd "antifa" mentally castrated cuckolds bowing, kneeling and grovelling at the feet of the very very kosher technocrats (both sides serve the same master), begging for complete chattelization and ritualistic humiliation and grooming everyone around them into their total submission anti-White anti-natalist death cult is not "malicious" to you?

>>713447602
So which corporation are you getting paid by?

>>713447770
He wasn't trying to go to court, you silly goose. He didn't even really want to do it, but no one was going to do it
>He made a petition and then milked his shut-in NEET gooner audience to sign it and make videos about it so that he could make money off the advertising revenue
You have no idea who Ross is

This whole thing was a ploy by The Mould to infiltrate the EU parliament.

>>713447770
Ross repeatedly made a point of refusing to ask for money from people about it

If initiative loses, then you at least should always pirate games, besides DRM free ones that offer installers.
And avoid online only games.

>>713447919
did you even write this post in english man what the fuck

>>713440483
good morning

>>713447980
>Ross repeatedly made a point of refusing to ask for money from people about it
But he didn't turn off monetization on his YouTube channel. He played you fools like a god damn fiddle while laughing all the way to the bank.

>>713440483
Ubislop was just an excuse.

>>713447279
>Five cents have been deposited into your Blackrock account.
>Thank you, xxShillBot420xx!

>>713447848
Then why didn't you say that instead of the exact opposite

>>713448083
You're so dumb I don't even know where to begin
You could try watching the video first

>>713447602
Uh oh, RAJEESH NO!

I salute Ross. You tried.

>>713442796
No it's still just you guys. Own up to your own problems.

>>713447473
>Government uses it as Schindler's list
would be funny

>>713447279
>11 years ago internet connections were flakier so naturally people got a little mad about the diablo 3 always on connection
Fuck off. People were mad because it was completely unnecessary and a downgrade of 2's system

>>713448165
I'm not going to watch the videos, I'm not going to give that economic terrorist anymore ad revenue, and that's coming from someone that used to be a big fan of Freeman's mind. He's permanently lost me as a fan from this disgusting stunt.

>>713448158
I never said that, your lack of reading comprehension did

>>713447473
>Sweden
>white
Come on now.

lol economic terrorist
trying too hard

>>713448394
okay, you got me
it's Yellow and Blue

>>713448304
Sure, anon. Sure

We are in fucking late stage capitalism and WW3 is about to start. Do people really believe this had a chance? This is the circling the drain portion of shaking people down for every cent.

>>713448373
>the people playing diablo3 were old geezers that played diablo2
Your words. You play it, you support it.

>>713448428
I believe that's Ukraine

>>713447279
Are you fucking retarded?
Okay, imagine Overwatch 3 comes out and it's such a massive flop it kills Activision Blizzard somehow, they shut down the servers and all of their always online games die. No more Overwatch, no more WoW and Wow Classic, no more Warzone, no more Diablo
This is the complaint. If a game company ceases to have their servers function why is MY money stolen. For WoW at least you can say it's a subscription service. But Diablo shouldn't need internet access for 90% of its content so why is the server side connection required?

>Turned down big name interviews so he could virtue signal instead of actually deal with a unilateral problem for both sides

This faggot can get fucked forever. Dumb fucking cunt.

>>713448543
Your fault for playing garbage in the first place.

>>713448536
Blue and Yellow, slight difference

>>713448042
do mildly big words intimidate you

>>713448580
Never happened

https://www.reddit.com/r/Asmongold/comments/1likc53/the_end_of_stop_killing_games/

UPVOTE TO MAKE JEETS SEETHE

>>713448620
He's talking about Thor

>>713448280
Also notice how, now that diablo4 is always online, they can milk it for DLC by selling gear and boosts and shit
If the game had an offline component people could console-command or mod in whatever they wanted, now, they have to pay $4.99 to daddy blizzard to get it

i guarantee you that bethesda is pissed they established their games as being the quintessential modern moddable PC game because now they can't charge you $4.99 for a 20% exp boost in Elder Scrolls 6 when a console command can do it for free. can't sell a bikini skin for the new booby waifu follower if a modder will do it for free. I ASSURE you that the suits at bethesda have been wracking their brains for years trying to come up with a way to implement this without losing their entire consumer base. that whole "paid mods" fiasco was just the beginning, that was probably just a dry run for what they'll implement by the time elder scrolls 7 is released.

>>713448543
>No more Overwatch, no more WoW and Wow Classic, no more Warzone, no more Diablo
Good.

>>713448689
Who is this guy?

>>713448596
????
Negro, I buy GOG and physical whenever I can to avoid this. It still doesn't mean it's right.

>>713440483
Seething good goys in the replies are still gunna pay up for the always-online Fromsoft game though.

>>713448674
>because now they can't charge you $4.99 for a 20% exp boost
Oh no... Now they'll just have to charge you $60 for Skyrim 10 times...

>>713448304
Retard

>>713448726
He killed Billions to save Millions.

>>713448728
GOG while being retarded enough to give you installers is not a company you should buy from if you want your purchases respected.

>>713448689
Quintenbro, Switch 2 players are in public. He lost.

>>713448543
>If a game company ceases to have their servers function why is MY money stolen.
Because you willingly gave them money while knowing the consequences.
>How could I have known the homeless guy was going to buy beer and not food with my money?

>>713448726
Manly Tears

If you kick Blizzard balls, you'll have to go through Thor's chin first.

>>713441259
the roach won't suck your cock dude, give it up
unless you're a ferret, perchance?

>>713448516
Okay fine, I should've said
>the people *that were intending to play* diablo3 were old geezers that played diablo2

>>713443381
In all fairness that IS how normies think and you absolutely have to cater to them when it comes to shit like passing laws.
I can appreciate Ross at least said "Yeah I know. I suck. But I'm all there is."

MAYBE SOMEONE WITH MORE CHARISMA AND BRAINS SHOULD TRY THIS AGAIN WHEN THE NEXT SHUTDOWN HAPPENS (Hitman is most likely to have the biggest impact)

Freedom won.
Government tyranny lost.

Pictured: Ross and Pirate Software
https://youtu.be/ZTMtoe4keIs?feature=shared

>>713448853
Nah, with GoG you get what you want - and I want installer that I can back up with no online needed besides to download them.
It's fair to me.

>>713449127
freedom to steal money

>>713449037
I think Hitman will just end up making progress possible while offline instead, since they already have the offline mode

>>713448853
Are you going to back that up with any evidence?
>buy gog
>get installer
>back up installer
>game works forever
What's the problem?

>>713449215
>freedom to steal money
if you willingly give money to ubisoft you deserve it

>Viewership is majority American
>Initiative coverage is majority American
>Majority of online discussion surrounding it is, again, mainly American
>"Americans have no consumer rights so you guys can't do anything about this."
It was over before it even started. Every European that gives a shit already signed it and the rest are too busy playing FIFA 348 or Gothic for the 40th time.

>>713445863
Him not making it clear enough that stuff like World Of Warcraft didn't matter is likely what did the movement in.
He DID distinguish it, but not enough for normie cattle.

>>713442167
It has nothing to do with source code you fucking retard. You're the reason it failed.

>>713448853
Being able to share games with my friends is based. I know I can pirate them but it's just easier and convenient rather than having to fish for a decent torrent lol. Simple as.
>>713448892
Vote with your wallet doesn't work like that at least without significant public backlash. Sad but true. It's like signing petitions, unless a lot of people a billion minus one it then there's not gonna be too much effect to the bottom line and as you can see the idea has been normalized among too many of the gaming audience

How does this pirate software faggot have so many viewers? I'm constantly amazed how many retards exist. Who are they?

>>713449330
>or Gothic 40th time
guilty as charged

>>713449473
Impressionable children and pseuds.

>>713449390
The problem is just that voting with your wallet doesn't work. For every informed consumer there are 100 more that just buy whatever they see on TV. Your educated opinions don't matter when they get drowned out by waves of ignorant retards
see >>713442882's picture

>>713448853
>GOG while being retarded enough to give you installers is not a company you should buy from if you want your purchases respected.
reminder you're still under the EULA agreement with GOG, meaning the installers are illegal if you break the agreement like this moron >>713449390 openly admitting he shares the installer

>>713449473
You're amazed that retards number in the billions on this planet? Have you been living under a rock?

I get he's literally the product of nepotism and literally his entire existence built on lies, including the whole "The Next Undertale" situation.
But it's almost impressive how dishonest that pirate software faggot is.

>>713445920
I HAVE TO MAKE WAVES

>>713449580

>>713446312
There's a lot more "pretending to be retarded" posts than you might think but there's also a lot of literal children that are that fucking stupid.

>>713448892
>Because you willingly gave them money while knowing the consequences.
Actually, plenty of people don't know the consequences, because the majority of gamers haven't experienced it themselves. Also, a lot of kids buy video games. Consumer laws are needed because otherwise consumers get fucked in the ass, as proven by all the pro-consumer laws that are already present in society

>>713449308
You still license said installers and the second they revoke it by banning you you're basically at the mercy of it being entirely economically unfeasible to sue you for retaining them.

>>713446312
You are forgetting that there are also people who want to watvh the board burn and pretend to be shills because its easy (You)s.

it was worth giving it a shot. i'm glad i did my part and even shilled it to my friends and socials.
in the end, the game was rigged from the start
future generations will rightfully blame us for failing to defend our consumer rights in the digital era

Unlike Ross, I would actually be happy if this killed the GaaS faggotry.
Suck it, thor.

>pajeet
>contrarian
>how much is Ubisoft paying you to post ITT?
>is this post AI?
>I voted with my wallet but other people kept buying things I don't like! I'm calling the police!
>what do you mean additional labor costs additional money?
>OMG WHY ARE PEOPLE DEFENDING CORPORATIONS WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS SITE?
>it's the same as selling poison baby food!
>/v/ was always in favor of government regulation of video games! It's just election tourists disagreeing!
>the EU gave us amazing regulations like being able to easily refund games you just purchased!
>EULAs stating the game doesn't work forever don't count because you agree to them after buying the game!
>oh wait ignore that part about games being easy to refund
and when you try to get them to think more than one step ahead about the effects of begging for more video game regulation:
>I don't care I'm unemployed with no future and I want the industry to die

Maybe you SKG shills should have stuck to one argument instead of arguing like dishonest children

>>713447473
The only obvious thing here is english speaking population being lower in the south

>>713446170
>this is the most effort anyone's put into defending consumer laws

Sorry, dear brother. You do infact sound gay. But only because you are wrong and being gay is wrong.

>>713449473
>>713449541
>>713449590
It's actually because youtube completely bullshits metrics

>>713446170
And all this time there was a feeling that Ross was doing this alone.
And it was as if he was the only one who cared.
I have not heard that from the entire community there was even one lawyer or consultant who could help him.
That's how it happens. When they come for you, no one can help you.

>>713440292 (OP)
He lost and should just hide in his cave forever.

>>713449773
Getting burned once is a good thing to teach people to think for themselves. If you let it happen again you deserve it.

>>713440991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biEQ9e_oS7k
lol

>>713449327
your post translated:
>step on me and others harder, giant corporations

>>713448892
What's your favorite game series, anon? I'm going to send a letter to the publishers to let them know the financial benefits of housing everything on a server so they can shut it down and force you to buy the next one when it comes out, while simultaneously adding loot boxes and pay walling features in the last game. But that's fine, right? You just wouldn't buy it. No skin off your back. And when the next series does it, and the next one, that'll be fine too. When everyone does it because sheep will buy it anyway and it makes them more money, you just won't buy anything. That's what winning looks like.

This belongs with Right to Repair

>>713449687
>But it's almost impressive how dishonest that pirate software faggot is.
He MUST be a paid shill. At one point he thinks that Ross' campaign would attempt to make all MMOs from multiplayer to singleplayer
>quote PirateSoftware: "What would you do if Final Fantasy XIV shut down? You'd have to re-balance it to become a single-player game. What would you do, make every raid soloable?"
this absolute retard played classic WoW for a living, and i KNOW that he knows what a WoW private server is. obviously if Ross' campaign won, and FFXIV shut down one day, people would use the provided source code to run private servers.

so PirateSoftware pretending that that wouldn't happen and instead saying "they'd have to spend hundreds of dev hours rebalancing the game to be single-player" is either the most retarded take ever or he's being paid by corpos to spread misinformation.

>oh the industry will die
>and leave billions of dollars untapped because they can't add a few lines of code

>>713446928
How many of those votes do you think were people genuinely thinking by mistake "Finally no gay propaganda", judging by how retards around the world were interpreting SKG?
I certainly remember some dumbfucks here falling for it.
Which is funny twice because it looks like the world is abandoning big gay overall recently

>pay for game
>wait
>money stolen

>>713450096
>What's your favorite game series
A dead one. I don't care about series in general because they always stray from what made the original stand out.

>>713450139
>>and leave billions of dollars
I would be happy if GaaS industry died, desu.

>>713449986
>And all this time there was a feeling that Ross was doing this alone.
This was what really pissed me off, I follow of bunch of random youtube gaming channels and not one, NOT ONE of them put out a video in support.
There would be the odd twitch question and they'd always respond like "yeah I really agree with what he's doing I think it's a good thing" but I never saw any action from any of them, big or small, to actually push people to signing the petition. It makes me sick, no-one actually cares.

>>713446423
And are apparently too retarded to realize this affects more than just The Crew

>>713450224
either way is a win-win

MALDAVIUS IS LITERALLY RAPING FERRETS AS WE SPEAK AND YOU'RE ALL LAUGHING

>>713440292 (OP)
This movement is proof that misinformation, gaslighting, and a lack of consistent attention is what kills a movement.

>>713450260
Yeah, other dogshit like The Crew.

>>713446170
I'm not siding with your ugly as fuck manbaby eceleb. Fuck off.

>>713450227
Most of vidya jewtubers are probably getting money from game companies anyway.
Money, or access.

>>713442946
i hate that what you said is true.

>>713450116
I mean you're barking up the wrong tree with the obviously false claims he's making about MMOs.
I think
>Paying the game theory guy to promote, but not NAME OR LINK his game to get someone people actually likes who has standards that people like to promote it (Toby Fox)
Genuinely shows he's a straight up dishonest piece of shit you should never do business with.

>>713446312
>he doesn't understand the ramifications of government intervention in an industry already butt fucked by corpos
Because there isn't already enough to deal with right?

>>713450101
Nobody cares about that except one Texan.

Look, if if's purely mmo crap then yeah, people should know what they are getting into and it's hard to justify doing anything about it.
But if game has singleplayer component and it's still tied down to the company server and they shut down then that shit should be opposed. As well as avoided.

>>713450483
>government intervention would be le bad
>government intervention: "corporations: stop stealing money"
wow... the west could rise again...

>>713450328
Right, so instead of looking at the idea itself, you'll discount it because Ross is involved. Real smart thinking there, champ

>>713449738
always amazing when people only commit white-collar crimes then act smugly about it
hope you get raped endlessly in prison

>>713441168
It surprises me there's even anyone left pushing back against companies in gaming.

>>713450485
This one? I don't think he's Texan

>>713450656
And now you fuckers are looking to involve reddit, which gives me all the reason to oppose your shit petition just for that faggotry.

>Walk into game store
>Buy cheap 2 year old game like The Crew
>Play it for 2 days, enjoy it
>Boot it up again the next day
>Sorry, game is dead
>Money stolen

I have yet to see someone defend this with a coherent argument

>>713441168
That is true, sadly. I learned this before.
Best you can do these days is buy drm free and pirate. Best pro preservation moves for a simpler consumers point of view, at least.

>>713450798
Works out of Austin now

>>713450876
caveat emptor you retarded bitch

>>713450876
>lease a game
>lease ends
What's the issue here

>>713446706
More or less accurate. Older gamers phased out when they saw how gay the industry was getting. That's why the current industry acts so surprised when they get the mildest of pushback. They're used to their customers being the perfect consumers, they're not supposed to have standards

>>713450995
>>713451014
I said coherent argument, Ranjeet.

>>713450995
>caveat emptor
Not sure how a consumer is supposed to know its gonna shut down in 2 days when the company doesn't advertise it.

>>713450817
Who gives a shit about Reddit? What does that have to do with whether or not you want to support the initiative itself?

>>713450876
>You should have researched the game first to find out that this could happen
>The EULA says...
>I don't like that game therefore I'm fine with you being screwed over

>>713449908
All I want is the abolishment of GAAS
I don't give a fuck about some gay Ubisoft game.

>>713451043
You resorted to calling people Indians so you lose. Please go back to you subreddit now.

>the petition is a success and games stop getting destroyed
>publishers crack down on piracy in retaliation so you can't steal anymore
would you prefer this timeline?

>>713451079
I'm not siding with reddit. So fuck off.

The best way to send the corpodrone into panic is to ask them:
>What bad will come out of this for the consumer?
Because so far, since its beginning, theres been NO reason for this to not pass. And these shills sure as hell wont tell you what dire consequences they "fear" might happen. Instead they will seethe about the bottlecaps again to deflect, without ever answering the question.

>>713451217
which one leads to next video game crash faster?

>>713451217
>publishers crack down on piracy in retaliation so you can't steal anymore
As if they don't currently

>>713451184
This. When they are of hating us Indians, you surely know they were lose.

I wonder how many of the piratesoftware dicksuckers who even understand that an always-online game that can't be played without an external server. Actually requires more work to make than a game that can also be played lan or whatever.
The latter is the fucking default. Gutting that stuff out of the game is the extra stuff. It's not that you'd put it in, it's that you just wouldn't remove it in the first place.

>>713451014
show me in any game store where the word "lease" appears.

>>713451184
exactly this indian hate has to end is not true

>>713451014
The evergreen bait

>>713451243
Oh won't you think about the poor companies and how their profits and creativity will be stifled when they can't release vidya with mystery expiration dates

>>713450227
Leave a comment on their channels, let them know that the petition is close to failing and that if they don't draw attention to it they'll be part of why it failed. There's still a month left - maybe if the bigger channels know people will hold them responsible for doing nothing that will be the needed push.

>>713450817
Yeah how dare any movement worth pursuing breach your fucking safe space bubble and try to actually succeed, everyone should just stay in their bubbles, never connect with anyone else, never try to get mass public opinion or numbers on their side. Any movement that requires more than three autists on /v/ to succeed simply isn't worth pursuing. Of course we both know you aren't even a real person, so I don't know why I'm even bothering responding.

>>713447602
Jeet women live to serve white cock

>>713451014
>Lease a game

I'm gunna mortgage my copy of TES VI.

>>713451217
>You actually own your games (as in, it's a thing you own and can't be revoked for any reason under the nebulous claim that a game product is somehow a service, not something you have the rights to distribute which is not something people are asking for)
>But this actually means you SUPER don't own your games and there's SUPER DRM that EXTRA BRICKS your games
You guys are pretty retarded, not gonna lie.
Also, admittedly I haven't kept tabs on it, but did Mold Mann at all touch on the fact that it's already completely legal and there's zero recourse for developers to ACTUALLY prevent you from running games, and that the legal distinction in America is that it's specifically illegal to try to circumvent drm, specifically, because the law as it already exists would make it illegal for companies to try to prevent the reverse engineering of software to maintain its functionality?

>>713451221
viper you fucking stupid

>>713451217
GaaS is already a form of that, so nothing much changes.
I will just keep playing older games.

Pretty sad that his discord is STILL spamming /v/ with this retarded campaign even after it was completely rejected by the public.

>>713441060
If I think this guy looks completely normal does that mean that I myself am ugly?
If pedos looked like that there would be 100x more diddling in this world than there is now.

>>713450817
Ross literally said in this video that most threads promoting SKG on reddit were deleted and those that stayed were critical on whole thing. Describing this as a redditors petition is beyond retarded.

>>713441923
agreed, its much better getting yourself killed on the other side of the planet just so your fellow countrymen can have cheep oil.

>>713451564
Oh you really don't get into what the consumer's rights would be if it was ACTUALLY a service lmao

>>713451652
>completely rejected by the public
SKG is a threat to those pulling levers so, naturally, they pulled levers.

>>713446312
It's a mix of
>genuine retards
>contrarian dickheads (including trolls)
>shills
There is genuinely and legitimately no reason not to support SKG if you're not one of those three.

>>713451740
I can imagine it
killin' the planet 'n' shit

Thanks for nothing OP. Thought this was about that Twitter gag @Pirat_Nation, who pretended to be a girl to get money on Telegram.

>>713450276
Might makes right, Anon.

>>713448304
I agree Saaar. No longer a fan Saaar. Sned bob and vegene pics SAAAAAR

>>713451975
>who pretended to be a girl to get money on Telegram
is that real? I already hate that guy for regurgitating 4chan posts for twitter retards

It's just a lesson to avoid forced online games.
Question is, if they will move to making all games (singplayer ones too) to server side only.
They kind of are already doing this with Steam, but /v/ is not ready to admit this because there are too many gayben cock suckers here.

Just think how better this place will be when Ubisoft goes bankrupt and these pajeets have to find a real job

>>713452229
>They kind of are already doing this with Steam
You don't know what you're talking about, and don't know how furious it makes publishers that Valve forces them to sign a contract that says they can't just pull games from their library they've already paid for.

>>713452229
Steam games vary on whether they actually need Steam to run at least

>>713440292 (OP)
lmao holy shit that piratesoftware retard got absolutely BTFO
gonna sign the petition and share it to everyone I know to further dunk on that low-iq liar

>>713452084
>the autists supporting this reddit eceleb are the same people that post SAAAAR RANJESH 50 times per day on /v/
wow just when I thought I couldn't be happier that SKG failed

>>713452229
here comes the seething gog cultist
pirate your games retard, stop being PC vegan

>>713452319
You are still reliant on some server, be it steam or some other companies, however.
>>713452347
besides the ones that don't, as anon points. I know Warband, at least, doesn't actually need Steam to run, but to my mind this is still inferior to GoG where you can buy the installer too. But of course better than to be forced to use the launcher.

>>713440991
He lost his mana to keep going in life. So sad.

>>713442946
It clicked when Ross started talking about this Thor faggot and playing his clips. People with excellent speaking voices get to do whatever the hell they want. Ross has a bit of a lisp and a higher pitched voice, so even when he's speaking sound logic it doesn't stick for most people. Thor has a deep, booming voice with fantastic diction, so even when he's speaking absolutely retarded horseshit, it comes across as believable. It's incredibly frustrating.

>>713452229
Team's doing literally the opposite. I have games on my steam account the publishers have completely pulled from other platforms that I can still download and install whenever I want. If I bought The Last Remnant on any other platform and ever Uninstaller it to save space I'd be SOL if I ever wanted to replay it, Steam is the only reason I don't have to keep a personal copy archived to have access to a game I bought.

>>713441423
been like this for years

>>713452460
I do pirate them, yes.
Not many because most games are shit or pozzed or boring, but yeah, if it's likeable and on only Steam I will pirate.

>>713452412
You can keep crying about it, but actual people are going to have zero sympathy for you retards being on of the biggest fucking cancers on online game discussion.
>>713452524
As the implementation goes, you actually aren't, because Steam's DRM is designed to verify if someone actually paid for a game, not rob them after an arbitrary period of time after their purchase. Again, you don't actually know what you're talking about.

>>713452412
you are brown

>>713452698
>As the implementation goes, you actually aren't, because Steam's DRM is designed to verify if someone actually paid for a game, not rob them after an arbitrary period of time after their purchase. Again, you don't actually know what you're talking about.
I do know, because I know that Steam doesn't give you offline DRM free installers, the thing that I actually want.

>>713452698
>You can keep crying about it, but actual people are going to have zero sympathy for you
Why would I need sympathy? My side didn't just get BTFO.

>>713452793
>I do know, because I know that Steam doesn't give you offline DRM free installers, the thing that I actually want.
An entirely arbitrary metric meant to make GOG's deal sound better.
Portable versions of software are a thing, and there's quite a few of them on steam.
Mostly because (as gamers) independent developers know it's annoying to have to reinstall an entire ass game.

This campaign was so cursed even the jannies were against it.

>>713453039
It's more annoying to be to be on devs time and their shitty updates to break mods and such so I basically have to wait for years when they drop support of the game to play in peace.
I want to control software I have and use it on my time and continence.

He's not your real dad.

>>713452175
Yup. He used to go by “Marlis(@PC_Focus)” a few years back. He pretended to be a female console warrior on Twitter and sold feet pics on his telegram.

https://x.com/synthpotato/status/1919109482463756342?s=46&t=8wSjFTcpHqoFAwJvgS5aow

>>713453197
Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about.
Portable software is just that.
PORTABLE.
There's no "shitty updates" there's no "wait years when they drop support".
You just drag and drop, maybe run the executable through WINE if you're on linux.

>>713452793
>download offline Drm free installer
>a few years pass
>decide to play game
>install it from my offline Drm free installer
>feels good man
>launch the game
>unable to connect to server
>the publishers shut off the game last year when their next game they wanted people to buy released

>>713449473
It's hard to imagine or admit for those with any sense, but the meme was right about what pretending to be idiots does.
There are in fact people genuinely poisoned by a decade of irony like those conditioned into pathological lying from their environment. Except unlike a liar who feels shame from those they don't mean to deceive, eventually leading to recognizing, admitting and possibly attempting to reconcile their behavior, a contrarian has no such sense. In fact they feel increasing contempt the more they're confronted with their neurosis and seek to insulate themselves from that.

Ask around enough and you'll hear from someone you know about someone they know with that sort of shitty behavior, and if you look into said person you'll find they congregate to and with likeminded delusional nutters they can vicariously live through and receive back pats from.
What seems extreme to even those like us is not only normal, but ideal to them and the more cases like this they can spitefully subject others to that the better for them. Due to social media fusing so much with real life it's not going away anytime soon.

>>713452620
He uses a voice filter.

>>713453369
Even if he's bass boosting, that doesn't change the quality of his diction. The man has a good speaking voice, he's just a gay baby faggot.

>>713453303
Pirat_Nation btfo

>>713453197
>I want to control software I have
lmao dipshit not understanding what a license is detected

>>713453369
naw he just voice trains probably, anyone can do it.

>>713440292 (OP)
>PirateSoftware
I wish this prick would kill himself. Literally the definition of capitalist plant scumbag and holding everyone else back solely for the benefit of big industry. Fuck I wish I could bully him into killing himself.

>>713449473
He grew his audience with short form content, his viewers have the attention span of a goldfish.

>>713453263
>postures using fabricated credentials and uses baseless confidence to come across as an authority figure
>large indian following
it's like pottery

>>713453263
True, my real dad was a Soviet particle scientist and a reclusive alcoholic

>>713453349
That would only happen if game itself needs some server to run.
I guess then I should clarify that I want DRM free installers + the game (or sing player portion of it if it has MP also) to run offline.

>>713453512
>capitalist
>Free market is when I scam people tier commie retardation
You fuck off too.

>>713453303
I remember that faggot kek. Apparently he used to use this photo as a catfish when he sold his feet porn

>>713453468
It doesn't matter what legal crap says, I am talking about pragmatic down to the ground situation for me as a user. With GoG or piracy I can get the installer and just use the shit offline, only download is online side.
And it's what I want for games.

>>713453562
>>Free market
>oy vey just buy the subscription goyim!
You kill yourself too.

>>713450434
Sorry, I don't know what you're talking about, who did what with toby fox?

>>713453537
I don't get why this guy doesn't get ridiculed for not finishing his shit ass kickstarter undertale rip off after like 10 years.
looks yandere dev only needs to bass boost his mic and people will stop shitting on him

>>713450876
>I have yet to see someone defend this with a coherent argument
Their arguments are always:
>That's just the way things have always been!
said the 18 year old who's never known a time when things weren't this way

>>713451652
Which company is paying you to say this?

>>713445920
I HAVE TO MAKE THE MOVIE

>reddit deletes many threads supporting the initiative, while leaving ones critical of it up.
Every time I peek at that godforsaken place it's like Twitter but for midwits.

>>713452620
>Thor has a deep, booming voice with fantastic diction
This voice is fake btw, the same way that vtubers use higher-pitched voices to sound more cute. His real voice is pretty mid

>>713453878
Basically one of the first major promotions that Pirate Software nigger did was paying that mat pat game theory guy to promote his game as "the next undertale" but not actually link it or mention it in the title of the video, this was an entirely cynical decision meant to piss people off who played Undertale and get someone who actually gives a shit about games to promote it for him by getting Toby to chastise the gay theory guy online and drag attention to it.
MatPat is still a faggot, but in this particular case, he literally just straight up got fucked by an advertising client (Pirate Software), and took a massive reputational hit to promote a piece of shit early access walking simulator bootleg of an existing popular game that people actually like.
It is honestly probably up there in the top 10 scummiest things ever done in the industry to me.

>>713454262
I mean the entire system for post visibility (karma) is designed around destroying wrong think.

>>713440292 (OP)
Piratesoftware geting BTFO aside, it's sad to hear how frustrated he sounds at the start. Man really tried everything possible under the sun and yet couldn't reach his goal. 99% of people would never put such efforts into their beliefs as much as he did. You would think with how much "gaming is dead/bad" is such a popular sentiment people will jump head first into a chance to improve things even a little. But nah, why put out the fires when you can complain about it instead?

>>713451710
but iranians die in Iran, not the other side of the planet? what does this have to do with thor being a faggot? are you brown and muslim?

>>713454515
I agree that Karma is a problem, but the biggest issue is the moderators deleting posts based on some arbitrarily criteria, cooperate interests, or some chronically online internet drama you need to be on three different Discords to understand.

So, even if you're post does survive the 'Darwinian' process, it could still get axed because some neckbeard had a bad day and thinks you're trolling.

>>713447473
there a lot of things that fucked over the initiative but I think the brexit might be a huge part too

>>713454427
oooh lol
lemme guess, that game Thor is making is still in development and never will release

>>713454872
It was. I'm firm believer it would have easily met the goal if not for retarded bongs.

>>713454802
>You would think with how much "gaming is dead/bad" is such a popular sentiment people will jump head first into a chance to improve things even a little. But nah, why put out the fires when you can complain about it instead?
The only people that COULD help him were eurocucks (burgerland's legal system basically made this movement impossible there)
so we have europeans to blame for not helping (which is also pretty par for the course european behavior)

>>713454912
Yup

>>713454912
it's still being worked on
you worship a balding man who subsists off of canned beans

>>713448394
It was when I was born, it's amazing the irrevocable damage a few years and malicious intent can do to a people.

You can't beat the leviathan that is public apathy.

>>713455054
saar, please contribute another $10 to PirateSoftware's undertale-ripoff patreon SAAR PLEASE

>>713454987
The movement could technically be started again, which is a plus. The issue is that it has to be made by someone else per the EU's criteria for Initiatives.
If someone remakes it I hope it's retitled to concern Software Regulation because then you can rope in corporations into liking it.
E.g. Wanna support your obscure shitty software but the software provider discontinued their DRM in 2015 and never patched it? Well now they need to patch it for the future. Just make a point that it should also cover software targeted toward entertainment such as video games as long as it is paid for.

>>713446312
it's just shitposters, mainly from /pol/ (Iran is being glassed and they are very angry about it)

>>713445418
Because it is blatantly obvious that Jason is a chronic liar and doesn't know shit about the subjects he claims to be an expert about, and he is an actual subhuman. Every single thing he has said is a lie in some form.
>Blatantly cheats and looks up solution to some insane puzzle game that took millions of people working together weeks to solve (you literally cannot solve this alone)
>Jason gets stuck there
>Looks down for extended period
>Suddenly solved puzzle
>Nuhbuh I didn't look it up

Reminder that he tried to redeem himself by streaming his therapy session with Dr k, and Jason was such an unlikeable narcissistic trash bag that Dr k crashed out on him, basically calling him a subhuman. "The way you act, it's not how humans behave. It's like there is something missing in you"

>>713450061
Could you post a video from a less faggy channel? Or just screenshots of the DMs?

>>713445920
I HAVE TO MAKE THE MOVIE

Europe just emphatically rejected the takeover of video games by unelected government bureaucrats. Unfathomably based.

>>713442639
>for free
what the fuck do you think customers pay for if not a playable game

Isn't Pirate Software that guy that uses walkthroughs while playing games and then pretend he's got galaxy brain?

>>713455341
>Reminder that he tried to redeem himself by streaming his therapy session with Dr k, and Jason was such an unlikeable narcissistic trash bag that Dr k crashed out on him, basically calling him a subhuman. "The way you act, it's not how humans behave. It's like there is something missing in you"
that is hilarious

>>713455603
Yes

>>713455603
he also pretends he's a good player and guild leader while roaching at the mere hint of actual resistance from other players
and he uses a voice changer lmao

>>713441168
He managed this all in the most inept way possible.
Running a mid sized Anglophone Youtube channel and trying to get a petition passed that requires a substantial minimum of votes in a dozen nations that have low English literacy while doing zero out reach to non-Anglophone content creators.

>>713455341
Link the crashout, i wanna see it

>>713447542
Doing something embarrassingly poorly is worse than not doing anything at all.

>>713446642
Assmongoyloid doesn't even play games, he was amazed a while ago after watching a video on skyrim seeing the physics engine in action because he thought Avowed was a great game by his standards. Last time he covered this on stream, he kinda took Piratesoftware's side since they're both butt buddies.

>>713453263
nepobaby furry pedo groomer kike

>>713440483
Maybe we'll get 3 game dungeons a year instead of 2 now. Exciting prospects.

>>713450947
I was this close to upgrade my 2080 to a 50 series, then I saw the writing on the wall and chose to use that money to build a NAS tower

Best investment I've ever done while looking at the current state of gaming right now. I don't need the latest nvidia card scam to play the most freshly shitted out AAA unoptimized slop, now with this tower I literally have 20 years of gaming backlog to enjoy

>>713456154
say what you will, over 450k people have signet the INITIATIVE as of now, despite Jason's sabotage
Like that one other anon said, if the anglos hadn't been faggots with the whole brexit shit it wouldn't have surprised me if we'd had over 1 mil signers by now

>>713455845
>>713456067
Sounds like a man of average or slightly above average intellect with delusions of grandeur.

>>713448892
>just don't buy the game xd
>ok
>company goes under
>AAIIEE WHY DIDNT YOU BUY THE GAME!?

>>713448083
Aside from the very first one, literally none of the videos about the campaign got more views than his usual Game Dungeon/Freeman's Mind videos.
He's been far less productive on GD/FM since starting this campaign. He's actively hobbling himself financially by focusing on the campaign as opposed to the videos that made him popular.

In short, you're a turboretard.

>>713454968
>>713454872
poles out, pakis in
brexit is brexit and games need to die and so and so forth

>>713456923
if me singularly not buying games had any major affect on the industry CoD, 2k, Fifa and Madden would've never taken off

>>713456613
Every man with an IQ of 110 thinks himself a genius as in his day to day life he interacts with people who have an average IQ of 100, that is PirateSoftware in short and also Asmongold.

>>713457021
you not buying things has a stronger influence than you think, demoralization is for faggots you may not see change right now or tomorrow but your actions feed into a greater whole that benefits everyone

CorporateSoftware is the most obvious industry plant

So how much tax money did we spend on this autist's "muh dying games" initiative

>>713457147
>you not buying things has a stronger influence than you think, demoralization is for faggots you may not see change right now or tomorrow but your actions feed into a greater whole that benefits everyone
it's not demoralization, just being realistic really. For any kind of change to occur, it requires an organized boycott for it to matter. I can vote with my wallet all I want, but unless enough vote the same way all I'm doing is saving money for myself. Individual action is for the self, for real change to occur it requires a movement. Trust me, I know this better than most because I am a vegan lol

>EU-fags didn't pick volunteer communism route
I am honestly surprised.

>>713457452
Well actually you spent way more on gayops to shut it down, but you could potentially count that in as money spent on it.

>>713456969
Pakis have been allowed into Britain since the 1970s but somehow Brexit is to blame? Shut the fuck up you forever obsessed Middle class twat.
Oh now you have to experience what the rest of us have had to put up with for decades? Boo fucking whoo, should have listened to us Working class lads then when we told you all they were a problem but instead you labelled us all as Far-right and Racist.
I have absolutely no sympathy that you fuckers are getting enriched now.

>>713453931
His handler has like ~100 employees sitting in his chat larping as 'viewers'.

>>713440292 (OP)
I agree that he should have capitalized on the furfaggot's popularity and embraced the drama. Oh well, bless him for trying to do all this in the first place.

>>713442167
Kek, perhaps read what the initiative was actually about before blaming others for misunderstanding it.

>>713453263
That fucking nose

>>713446706
>It's summer and current year 2016+9, over 75% of 4chan is made up of zoomers who have literally never played a video game that didn't have DLC or an online server to connect to
This

>>713453263
trying to be john romero, SAD!

>>713455218
As someone who works a corporate job your description did genuinely put a sparkle in my eye. I think it will run into the same problem as stop killing games though, some big CEO will get paid to say "What do you mean? Paying for the same product thousands of times and being required to update it is the superior way to run a business." and just sink it right away.

>>713457452
Don't worry, there is still enough tax money to import muslims.

>>713440292 (OP)
>[You are pathetic!]
>[I don't even know who you are]
I SAY "UBISOFT"

YOU SAY "WON"

>UBISOFT

Apologize.

>>713458083
I worked in corporate IT for about 4 years and I got sick of licenses existing after a while but I also ran into plenty of obscure shit like certain printer software or whatever needing licenses. On one hand it might force corporations to be more rigid but on the other they wouldn't need to fix what ain't broken and introduce tons of new problems.
Of course, some CEOs are absolutely retarded and basically just lucked their way to the top but you're gonna run into at least a few who think "hmm maybe i can keep running office 16 instead of whatever this 365 is"

>>713457668
I don't live in UK anyway, lmao.

>>713458835
Makes sense that a foreigner would be most upset about Brexit.

>>713458350
sorry about your face

>>713457661
Why should anyone trust your side when you blatantly lie like this? You couldn't get 500k out of a population of 500 million to sign an internet petition. Nobody was afraid of this.

>>713455341
My favorite piratesoftware moment:
>playing that other MMO after he got kicked from the guild for wiping in hardcore wow
>raiding
>backpulls a mob, raid wipes
>"Okay who pulled that mob? I swear to god I'm going to guild-kick whoever did it"
>people point out he was the one who backpulled
>"Okay actually, the only reason I was standing there in the first place was because the tank was out of position. It's the tanks fault. Not mine."
he's so obviously a clinically-diagnosable narcissist and I have no sympathy for the troglodytes that waste their lives watching his content

>>713458350
Sorry that you have to pitch your voice down to seem more knowledgeable.

>>713440292 (OP)
PirateSoftware is a retard but I didn't expect he'd actually have that much of an impact on the campaign, or beat out all the pro-SKG coverage combined. Is he unironically a shill boosted by the industry?

that petition signing eu website is dogshit to use no wonder people don't sign it

>>713459304
spreading misinformation to stop a movement before it really gets feet is like subterfuge 101 anon

>>713441423
I dunno man did the like two months straight of pretending memepedition 33 (mason number btw) was a GTA 6 tier launch and thus warranted twenty fucking threads up at all time not tip you off that eve vast majority of posts here are not organic?

>>713459379
Does he actually? kek
I thought he just had a lucky radio voice

i never never been mad at a lolcow, roaches stuff previously was why i even knew about him
i don't know how you could be against consumer protection laws for being able to play games you bought

>>713441080
What do you think this campaign was for?

>>713459513
This, it’s literally THE psyop

>>713446424
3rd worlders can't do shit, the US doesn't have any meaningful pro-consumer organizations, and the corpos have lobbyists that'll shove enough cash into any politicians mouth to shut them up.
Also the petitions are EU exclusive, I believe.

>>713459685
naw there's footage of him speaking with a higher voice, but I don't think he pitches shit down, I think he just voice trained.

>>713459475
Just remember that no one has ever organically become big. They always have a connection somewhere. Ross is only as popular as he is because of his previous work with Machinima, and not because of his actual competence. Unfortunately for him, Figtree has bigger connections despite being wholly incompetent, which contributed to the movement tanking.

Even worse, Figtree is such a narcissist he's probably gooning seeing how "salty" /v/ is.

>>713459607
Don't forget the precession of violently overmarketed crap that preceeded it this year,
that lethal company knock off, a game about digging a hole, that weed game.
>>713459729
Oh that's easy, you be the kind of faggot that likes the current legal situation and your future business plans require your explicit right to rob the people buying shit from you.

>>713445920
I HAVE TO MAKE THE MOVIE

>>713446249
This part genuinely made me mad.
Ross is strong to resist the urge to swing back.

>>713459729
>i don't know how you could be against consumer protection laws for being able to play games you bought
It just comes with being an industry plant.

>>713459885
I let out a hearty laugh when Ross mentioned Pirate Software's reputation wasn't so great nowadays, very polite way of saying everyone hates that bozo now

>post "ross scott" in his chat
>instaban

>>713440292 (OP)
>https://youtu.be/HIfRLujXtUo?si=LFoQ6t4jvdbkVeQb
>Piratesoftware 35:25
>It's shit not only am I not going to back this I'm going to tell people not to
What the fuck is this guys problem?

>>713459513
Or perhaps people just didn't care about.

>>713447517
Inshallah

>>713460012
>What the fuck is this guys problem?
piratesoftware makes money from people thinking he's smart, so he's going to find something popular, shit on it to sound like the authority, and make money off of it

>>713460012
Evil doesn't need a reason.

>>713447517
ALLAH ACKBAR

>>713459992
>"[PirateSoftware] strikes me as the kind of guy who would defend the divine right of kings."

>>713460012
Narcissist and stupid

>>713445371
Being smugly dismissive and confidently wrong is a cherished /v/ tradition.

Imagine blaming thor for your failed initiative when it was you that watched it fail for 12 months. Thor released a few videos on the first month, what did Ross do to boost it back?

This initiative failed not because of thor or trolls here. It failed because no one really cared, the creator of the initiative included.

>Karl Lost
>Ross Lost
who will be the third?

>>713459830
>Ha ha actually everyone has always been a completely cynical plant installed there by a corporate entity there has never been anyone who's ever been genuine
>Your movement is actually totally run by us so you should abandon it
Just because the modern day internet is shit doesn't mean you won at rewriting history faggot.

>>713459992
when does he say that?

>>713460264
Is that why /v/ loves Cory whenever he's on OneyPlays?

>>713460269
I apologize you're brown. I should've just taken the condom off while fucking your mother.

>>713460269
>what did Ross do to boost it back?
did you not watch the video? he did a shitton of interviews and outreach to other creators

>>713460337
beats me I watched the video a bit ago and I'm not skimming through it again to find the timestamp. it's around the part where Ross is talking about how Pirate Software effected the momentum of the movement, and how his influence has waned since then.

He did a few on first month, nothing happened afterwards.

>>713460269
Ross tried to reach out to him and he deleted his comments like a little bitch.
He literally refused to engage in the discussion.

>>713460283
Gabe

>>713460335
What the fuck are you even arguing here you retard? Do you think Machinima spawned overnight? Newgrounds too? Do you really think Microsoft was made in a garage by a "bright, gifted child" and not Gates coming from an uber-wealthy family that gave him the resources to create his own company?

I never even typed that Ross isn't worth following, and explicitly said he's competent. I did type that Ross has a smaller following than Figtree despite the latter not being competent, which is why SKG was washed away by a tidal wave of piss.

Learn to read, and if you argue with me again, you're brown.

>>713460376
>did you not watch the video?
lol
lmao
anon the shills here are paid to do one thing, spread misinformation

>>713460494
Sounds like a cope

Man, I really was hoping that Pirate's Software's sperg out would promote the campaign more then it hurt it, but apparently, at least from Ross's perspective, it created a chilling effect for other people to talk about or promote it.

Since then, I think I understand why Thor did it, He's a perpetual teenager who needs to be pedantically correct about everything and needs to refute everything bad said about him. So, when people in his chat called him out for misinterpreting and making silly arguments, he went into 'defense mode' and never got out of it.
The drama he's been rolled into this afterwards has repeated this pattern over and over again:
- Thor does or says something disagreeable
- People get upset, attack him
- He spergs out about it for weeks
The problem is that he's a 1% streamer and people are going to talk shit about him no matter what he says and I don't think he's capable of dealing with that.

>>713460598
My point is your psyop bullshit doesn't work on me.

>>713460012
He found an easy way to appear smart and opinionated to his cult audience.
Everyone loves moral indignation.

>>713460682
>Since then, I think I understand why Thor did it
He's an industry fag and directly benefits from the fucked state of software law right now.
That's all there is.

>>713460754
Logic isn't a psy-op, brown boy.

>>713460269
I completely blame Europeans.
I know there are faggots on here that could have and could still promote it but they haven't.

>>713460862
I just don't have any gosh darn time between work and forklift simulator work.

>>713460862
Well, I did sign it as an europoor but I'm just one dude.

>>713460849
And what you're employing isn't logic.

>>713460934
If you speak any other language besides English you should have been shilling and should still shill it.
I'm just one dude is a bullshit excuse, if Americans had any chance for this you bet your ass I'd be shilling it.

>>713440292 (OP)
what is it with balding men growing their hair long? is it the ultimate incel statement?

>>713460862
If Ross didn't care enough, the randos won't either. He should have organized better. Put stands in university events, tech conferences, on streets and it would have succeed. Or at least do better than going stand still for nine months. He might claim he did stuff but it sounds like all he did was asking other youtubers to advertise his campaign for him

>>713461203
He's married.

>>713460682
Thor directly benefits from games being able to be killed. He is the very definition of a plant.

>>713461203
>o-oh no my hairline is receding I should give up!

>>713461106
I'm a ultraneet and I don't even have any social media accounts.

>>713440292 (OP)
PirateSoftware meltdown response when?

>>713461216
I agree that Ross should have been doing in person stuff more rather than relying soley on social media, but I don't think any of you Eurofags were hanging out at markets and spreading the good word either, were you?

>>713440292 (OP)
its a stupid idea that would just make everything worse...you would lose the option to purchase a perpetual license. only timed licenses, or forced into a gamepass model

Why didn't people like Asmon promote this campaign more?

>>713461216
He didn't ask youtubers for shit, they did it on their own.
The petition is in Europe, what the fuck would a stand/sign do in Illinois or wherever he's from or in Yale do?
He doesn't have the cash to fly to tech conferences in Europe.

>>713461393
>Why do google employees not shill for people having ownership of their shit
Is a meestery

>>713461367
>T. Does not understand it

>>713446312
Part of it it's contrarianism and part of it /v/ being really dumb

>>713460682
You're right about him creating a chilling effect Ross even states that in his video that a large Youtuber was directly dissuaded from coming out in support of the campaign because of Thors videos.

This Piratesoftware guy, he absolutely had malicious intent.

>>713461454
I am talking about events or cakpuses in europe. He didn't need to fly there and organize things himself, he just needed to find and organize volunteers from there

>>713460963
Fighting fair when you're trying to grope my cock would be stupid. I'll use logic once you start, swarthy.

>>713461701
So you admit you were bullshitting in the first place then.

>>713461572
No, if there's any clear lesson you could take from being on /v/ especially but not limited to the past couple years it's how violently the board's been shat up with third worlders being paid pennies a day to astroturf.

>>713440292 (OP)
>sign a timed subscription
>subscription ends
>start crying

i dont get those retards
people pick what they buy themselves, nobody forces them

but today every fucking retard needs a nanny state to save them from their own decisions

>>713461668
>he absolutely had malicious intent.
I think what actually happened here was:
>Thor makes a quick, off-the-cuff comment about Stop Killing Games
>His comment is wrong and unfounded, because Thor is a retard
>Someone in his chat calls him a retard
>Thor, a narcissist, hyperfocuses on any and all criticism of his superior intellect, and makes it his SWORN DUTY to disprove the claim that he is a retard
>Spends the next hour explaining his (retard) opinion
>People continue to call him a retard so he doubles and triples down and keeps talking about it until he's spent the entire day on the topic
>Defending his dogshit opinion about the Stop Killing Games movement has now become his singular goal in life
I don't think Thor honestly intended to talk about SKG as much as he did, but he got baited into discussing it because he can't stand criticism

>>713461850
>why yes, I was born in 2012, and have never known a world where every product I buy is part of a timed subscription, how could you tell?
zoomie faggot

>>713461280
>>713460828
>>713461668
I heard that PirateSoftware was consulting as some live-service game that Ludwig(another big streamer as I understand) was making at the time.
Did anything come of that?
It always seemed that Thor wasn't really that technically competent, using GameMaker instead of rolling his own engine, not understanding how you can architect an online service to have swappable parts, and constantly feeling like he had to defend his cred.
What I'm wondering is if they started making a game, but realized that Thor doesn't know how to make an online game and that killed it.

SO LONG JUDAS

>>713449916
lol no body replied cause you hit a nerve
yet they still have time to reply to every other post with their typical bait responses

>>713461850
>buy item
>company takes item back
>"uhm excuse me I paid for that?"
>"YEAH WELL THE T&C'S SAY YOU DONT OWN ANYTHING"

>>713461927
I think thor is a ""security consultant"" for the game.

>>713461670
I'd agree but he did say that a lot of people weren't fully committed and would ghost him.
I doubt many people would want to hold signs saying bring back "The Crew".

>>713461980
SAAR

>>713461927
I don't think so. I can only hope the fag gets cast down to streamer limbo forever.

>>713461967
SO LONG JUDAS

>>713461850
>abuse legal loopholes to sell non-perishable 1 and 0's as if they were bread and honey that quickly expire
>cry wolf when people revolt at the notion and demand appropriate regulation for different kind of product
You are jewish.

>>713440483
Ubislop is just a vehicle to save all future games.

>>713462024
This is correct, but instead of taking an item the company simply bricks your device.
But faggots still buy that crap and they will defend those scummy companies.

>>713462076
Nah, he's got too much of a cult following and industry backing to ever disappear. Thor has been in so many fucking shitshows so far and has just walked away because at the end of the day as long as he's got even one whale left he's good.

>name your son Thor
>he turns into the most effeminate backstabbing bitch possible

>>713461916
I don't buy always online crap because I know it's always online crap. It's your job and your job alone to make an informed purchase.

>>713461927
Checked it out, it was a game publisher, here's the games they've published: https://store.steampowered.com/publisher/offbrandgames
All three of them are furry games, the two released games seem to be small successes.
Quotes I've found from Thor WRT to the company:
>I’m going to help manage the relationship between developers and us to make sure there is mutual benefit for both sides.
>I’ve seen far too many instances of publisher over-reach, and I’ve wanted to do something about it for close to a decade. This is a chance to help push our industry in a better direction, and I am super happy to do it.
Lol

>>713461916
everybody moved to subscription, keep up boomer

>>713462024
you arent buying a product, you are buying limited service
if you hire a maid to clean your room you expect you now own her for ever?

again, its just retards who cant deal with their own decisions

>>713448083
>he stole the money he didn't want people to give him!
Kill yourself you brown retard.

>>713462253
that's probably not his real name

>>713461980
pls redeem, body

>>713462302
>you are buying limited service
Only for monthly fee games. In every sane country buying a videogame is buying a product. Stop regurgitating american political anti-consumer stances, jew.

>>713462270
here's some more context if you're unaware, this was an offshoot of ludwigs company "offbrand" which was him helping streamers to create big events like streamer awards or whatever the fuck, and the "parent" company completely failed and he closed it because it was unprofitable after he turned it into a co-op

>>713462024
>make game
>20 years later, retired
>get sued for every penny because the networking provider you used on that old ass game goes out of business

>>713462173
What legal loopholes?
Literally everybody seem to know now that those products arent for ever, they still buy them.
People could demand change, they wont, in fact entire industry is moving to mobile, and pc and consoles will be dead in 20 years so who gives a shit anyway?

>>713462350
I think he is also has jason as his middle name, or the other way around maybe. But as far as I know, Thor is really part of his full name.

>>713462461
It was never going to be retroactive, retard.

>>713462461
It's not retroactive you shitposter.

>>713462461
Maybe don't make your game rely on an external server, or at least release an offline patch when you decide to end support.

>>713462461
Hilarious how this gave Ross a migraine because it's the first thing to be clarified and yet the number one lie repeated ad-nauseam

>>713462358
Not in your hand, then its not real
You are buying online access to a time limited service, and no amount of screeching wont change that, its the refusal to accept reality thats a big problem here

>>713462350
It's Jason apparently.

>>713462646
>getting fucked in the ass isn't the problem, it's your distaste for cock that's the real issue here

>>713462685
>furfag
of course

Oh what a cool initiative, I would hate it when my console shuts down it's online services
>actually we are keeping consoles exempt from this, they are free to kill their entire library
Uh, ok. It is great I will be able to play dota overwatch even if valve or blizzard dies
>actually we are also keeping "games as a service" exempt
Ok... so we are exempting two types of games that are most vulnerable to this. Then what would this law be about?
>uh so there is this game called "the crew"
Actually I don't care

>>713462583
are you retarded? it doesn't matter if it is retroactive because the same scenario can happen in the future you dumb fuck

>>713462519
>People could demand change, they wont
Near half a million people in one continent did
>in fact entire industry is moving to mobile, and pc and consoles will be dead in 20 years
Because of every other whale
>so who gives a shit anyway?
The people just mentioned, do you have dementia?

>>713462753
>make a thing in the future
>disregard laws
>get fucked
Oh no!?

>>713462741
Genuine retard.

>>713462741
>Uh, ok. It is great I will be able to play dota overwatch even if valve or blizzard dies
>>actually we are also keeping "games as a service" exempt
It's literally an initiative to let you play those shitty games after blizzard dies you brain dead retard.

I hate retards so much it's unreal.

>Bro my singleplayer always online games
Who cares?
Yawn, Thor owned this faggot already.

>>713462873
disregard what law? making it illegal to use third party networking? you trying to kill mp indie games?

>>713462753
If you intentionally made the game, after the supposed regulations have taken full effect, which break said regulations. Then you've got no one but yourself to blame. You absolute mouth breathing nigger retard.

>>713462741
Pretty much. These are games that should be banned from being made, not saved.

>>713462975
Based retard

>>713462987
Release an offline patch when you end support or die, retard. Also name one fucking indie game with reliance on an external server to play it.

>>713463000
And this was recognized by EU citizens as an undue burden. That's why it was rejected.

>>713462707
If you getting fucked at the gay bar every day you got nobody to blame but yourself.
People love this model of selling products, and few retards wont change that.

>>713463000
The same can be said for people buying these games. If you are buying a game with a kill switch, that is on you

>>713463009
It would effectively ban them from being made in one fell swoop.
>>713463078
Companies love this model, people are either indifferent or hate it. Nobody goes
>oh boy that game I played when I was 9 can never be played again!

>>713463000
no you retard...my game relies on 3rd party networking. i have no control over if they shut down in the future.

>>713463076
I see no contradictions with my post.

>so uhm if a studio shuts down a live service game they should allow the community and fans to host servers on their own
>"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP THAT!"
Why would anyone be against this so much?

>>713463053
Super auto pets. Backpack battles

>>713463157
Why did you tie the fundamental playability of your game entirely to a third party you do not control? Are you retarded? No indie devs do this in the first place so I guess you are.

>>713463157
The code that made it rely on 3rd party networking must've just willed itself into existence huh?

>>713453369
Found this for comparison
https://preservetube.com/watch?v=VjUun6owSCE

>>713463151
>It would effectively ban them from being made in one fell swoop.
Lying isn't going to get you anywhere

>>713463232
>why would you use third party solutions? hurrrr
see youre a retard and if you had your way there would be no multiplayer indie games

>>713463353
Anon no multiplayer indie games do this. Most are peer 2 peer.
>>713463297
If it costs more or is more annoying to make them tied to external servers than not, it's banned.

>>713462970
Yes, all these retards wishing for big daddy government to help was exhausting.

>>713463439
you don't know what you're talking about dumbass lol

>>713463127
I'd be ok if the devs publicly disclosed upon initial release the exact time the game is going to be killed. They're never going to do that though, unless forced.

>>713463460
>government should never be useful
>instead, the world should be begging big daddy corporation for leniency
When you have two groups that both hate you, government and corporations, you play them against one another. It is the only power you have.

>>713463484
That's because you are intellectually incapable.

>>713463516
>play them against one another
More like you're trading one evil for another. This would never have ended in any way but poorly for us caught in the middle.

>>713463585
you just said indie devs don't use 3rd party networking solutions, so you're either an idiot or a liar, pick one

>>713463516
>When you have two groups that both hate you, government and corporations, you play them against one another. It is the only power you have.
this desu
fight fire with fire

>>713463642
Anon the evils are literally fighting over you. It is as good as it gets for you, the tasty morsel. Monster, demon, hope they kill one another, etc.
>>713463659
What do you think peer to peer is? Do you think you have to go to peer 2 peer corp and rent out a listening server? You can literally just run it in your basement.

>>713463495
>exact
That would be a very stupid thing to ask. I would be ok with a "this game will work at least until 2028" and they can extend that date as it approaches if they wish or kill the game if it is not making money.