Why are uncs like this? Just fucking let people have fun.

>>713449829 (OP)
You aren’t having fun

>>713449829 (OP)
you can have fun but you did not beat the game

>>713449829 (OP)
He's right but also it really doesn't matter

>>713449829 (OP)
I don't use rewind but I do use save states instead of faggy passwords

>>713449829 (OP)
Save states and rewinds aren't fun though. They lead to you seething because you keep getting thrown right back into the difficult part instead of cooling down.

>>713449829 (OP)
He has a 12 inch cock and made the best video on Youtube, he can say whatever he wants.

>>713449829 (OP)
Based Mike

>>713449829 (OP)
Isn't this the guy that made those loco bandito comics?

Save states are fine-ish depending on how you use them, savescumming is for scrubs but saving at the start of the level/world/whatever and loading that when you get a game over is ok if 1ccs are too hard for you, no different from spamming credits as you can in some arcade ports. Rewinding is for absolute monkeys though.

>>713449829 (OP)
We is finna wuz having fun n sheit. Saying you didnt beat the game is craaaazy

>>713450341
Yeah he's a racist piece of shit

>>713450509
Cope, beaner.

'NES hard' refers to a time when most games had around an hour of gameplay at best and they needed to stop you from experiencing it with tons of intense difficulty spikes, limited lives, no continues, infinitely respawning enemies, death pits, infinitely respawning enemies with death pits (Ninja Gaiden), etc. They were designed this way so that you couldn't just beat a game in a weekend and return it to Hollywood Video, the arcade experience at home.
The reason why games like Mega Man, Mario, Zelda, and many of Nintendo's other offerings are considered classics is that it was actually possible to fucking beat as a kid without banging your head against the wall at one specific point for hours at a time. It's why shit like Battletoads, Ghosts and Goblins and Double Dragon are relegated to XBLA games instead of major franchises and other series like Final Fantasy continued through to future generations

>>713449829 (OP)
CHANGE THE CHANNEL MIKE
TRUMP JUST BOMBED IRAN

>>713450243
link for his cock?

>>713450243
Sorry anon the famous 12incher image was actually taken from that body builder forum website. Its is not mike mateis cock.

>>713451024
Contra isn't even harder than those games, especially with Konami code. Zelda and Super Mario Bros were legitimately pretty tough

>>713449829 (OP)
boomers are idiots for taking the time to scream at zoomers about video games
zoomers are idiots for actually caring about their screaming instead of just tuning it out cuz zoomies crave validation even from people who don't like em no matter what

brown bricks in moincrap

>>713449829 (OP)
Unc? Why the fuck are you speaking like a stupid nigger?

>>713451806
>unc can't even learn new vocab
ohnononononono

>>713449829 (OP)
>uncs
Can we ban all the underage from internet?

>>713451806
>>713451928
pipe down fossil

>>713451928
We shpupd ban underages from life. To earn the right to live they must hide from the older generation completely until they reach 25

It's good for practicing at least, you know learning difficult parts. But yes, if you cheat you only cheat yourself.

>>713451450
I'm playing Super Contra!!!

Honestly there's a lot of straight garbage in older games that either having you replaying shit over and over again or grinding for one reason or another.
As a kid we had all the free time in the world to play these games as an adult I need to be able to save and have some checkpoints

>>713449829 (OP)
Rewind feature? What the fuck is that?
Also what the fuck is "unc"?

>>713449829 (OP)
He's just pointing out that your power level is pathetic. Nothing wrong with that.

>>713449829 (OP)
The fun comes from beating the game. NES and SNES games aren't fun if you just play them for the story.

>>713451024
>Mega Man
Mega Man was NES hard. Especially the first three games. Especially the fortress levels of 2 and 3.
4, 5, and 6 were definitely easier but still challenging, especially for first time players.
It's easy to forget that when you've beaten each entry half a dozen times.

>>713452862
It's short for uncle but means crusty old faggot.

>>713452170
woah, evil universe logan's run.

>>713449829 (OP)
I dunno. I'm 35 and I dont give a fuck how people play games. If zoomers want to use save stages and rewind and whatnot that doesn't bother me. Its just good they have any interest in checking out older games at all.

>>713452862
>Rewind feature? What the fuck is that?
Old games are emulated on modern consoles and those emulators take memory snapshots as you play. If you make a mistake you can just rewind to a state from a few seconds ago and try again because letting the player fail is considered bad game design.

>Also what the fuck is "unc"?
It's a gen alpha word for someone old. Short for uncle.
It's their equivalent of zoomers calling millennials boomers. Now zoomers are the uncs.

>>713453363
Nah they are pretty easy outside of the yellow guy fight. As long as you have the right weapon you dumpster bosses

>>713449829 (OP)
>>713450243
It took 6 posts to mention his legendary penis. Is that faster than average?

>>713453692
>why are %small percentage of people% like this?
>I'm from that group and I'm not
you're getting dangerously close to liking AI videos on facebook, anon

>>713454230

>>713453363
Mega Man 2 on NES is easy as fuck. If you fail you should kill yourself.
Mega Man 1 on NES is hard as fuck.

>>713452638
You
Did
Not
Beat
The
Game

>>713453723
That sounds like absolute cancer.
I don't care if zoomers like it. Its cancer.

>>713452638
Imagine having a job like some sort of queer.

Have as much fun as you want, but you didn't beat the game if you used tools outside of the scope of the game you're playing.

>>713452638
A lot of these games are about 30 minutes long. It really isn't that bad.

>>713449829 (OP)
Im double edged on this. Of course enjoy a game any way you want. There is a special Hell for the faggots that do this than complian the games too easy though.
When BG3 released and all the save scummers bitched about easyness, that was my shopping cart test on who deserved oxygen.

>has a 10 inch cock
>hardcore gamer
>hates niggers and beaners
>has hair unlike James
>fucks hot bitches and brags about it on James' website

Truly an inspiration to us all

>>713451024
Unironically profound.

>Retweet if you agree
He's wrong for this alone.

>>713458445

>>713449829 (OP)
You did beat the game you just lowered the time in-between tries

>>713453913
No, but it's certainly longer than average. HEY-OH!

>>713449829 (OP)
Did they see the end screen? Congrats, they beat the game. I don't give a fuck if they used save states to beat the cheating ass coin-munchers (Battletoads) or not.

Why is it that zoomers and gen alpha can beat trial and error games like Dark Souls, but call old games that are trial and error bad? At least be consistent.

>>713449829 (OP)


I have friends that feel the same way desu. Like he was bragging about beating one of the old school megaman games and dude was using save states

>>713450090
this

>>713458770


No because it allows you to skip the difficult parts and just focus on the hard part. Part of the challenge is making it back to where you fucked up

>>713457053
What if I play on easy mode

>>713459206


You can run through Dark Souls and Elden Ring levels for the most part and theres usually a save point right in front of the boss so it's not as painful as it was before where you had to go ALL THE WAY through a level to get back to the boss.

There was Megaman but you had lives.

>>713460314
We need to bring back runbacks.
Make bandwagoners suffer the same way I suffered in old iron passage and snowfield in DS2.

>>713459206
Funny enough back in the days gamers were furious about devs removing the game over screen when you ran out of lives because it would make them too easy.
Soulfags are just boasting about fake hard games, they don't actually want hard games

>>713460545
>I AM BOOMER

>>713451024
This would actually be a decent point if it wasn't for the fact that game rentals weren't really a thing in Japan where all those games you're talking about came from, in fact I'm pretty sure it was illegal to have such a service.

The reason 80s games were so much more difficult on average is due to a combination of their arcade roots which WERE designed to eat coins (also with a focus on high scores), primitive hardware making movements with finesse more difficult to pull off, and far less understanding of game design. Games like SMB3 and Kirby's Adventure came towards and at the end of the Famicom's life and were far closer to what video games were like in the Super Famicom than something like Mario Bros. or Ice Climber. The JRPG blew up in Japan because it was the kind of game you could sink hours into exploring and getting stronger, it's a constant feeling of progression compared to a game that starts you over from the beginning when you die. 1986 in particular was a massive year with highly replayable and content-rich games like The Legend of Zelda, Metroid, Dragon Quest, Castlevania, and many more, 1985 and earlier may as well have been an entirely different era.

>>713449829 (OP)
Who cares? It's a single player game. How devoid is your life that you care about how others play their single player games? bros really be making shit like this their entire personality

A tweet is not preventing you from having fun. What you really want is to be part of a hobby where literally no one says anything bad about it or you. You couldn't care less about playing games. Fucking kill yourself.

>>713449829 (OP)
blow it out your ass خَواجا

>>713449829 (OP)
I think mostly people who larp as retro gamers have this opinion. Many of the games on nes and snes still suffered from arcade syndrome where artificial difficulty was put in to make you waste more coins and since they knew no other balancing they used it to pad out playtime instead. The people who loaded up zsnes from dos didn't complain about savestates either. It's artificial elitism.

>>713459206
streamers play souls games so they don't count

>>713449829 (OP)
He's right but he also comes across as autistic and caring too much

>>713451024
Nah he right.

I always find it interesting when Mario is brought into the hard games discussion. Aside from "REAL" SMB2 they aren't hard.

>>713461694
Depends on the game. Some games are too short and easy without a game over.

>>713451806
Blud let em cook

>>713451024
>>713461273
Some games actually did have limited continues put into the western version specifically to stop rentals, along with other difficulty increases.

>>713449829 (OP)
he's right but also it doesn't really matter how people play and beat singleplayer games too much. at worst someone used save states to 1 life Castlevania 3 or something and gloats about it on the internet, oh no.

>>713461885
Sure it does, savestating smb would make me feel embarassed, too. But something that sets you 3 levels back, because the game would be under 20 minutes if it wouldn't, or where they were to cheap to pay the costs for a saving cartridge and make you waste 2 minutes to put in a 50 line code with a controller. Yeah, fuck that, hello savestate.

>>713461273
As a matter of fact many games of the era were originally easier in Japan but made harder before bringing them overseas. Castlevania 3, The Adventures of Bayou Billy and Contra Hard Corps are the firsts that come to mind. Konami seemed especially guilty about this.

>>713462056
it's so ironic that that type of shit happened, considering Mega Man 2 added an easy mode in the north american release, and the real Mario 2 didnt see a release in the west until the SNES cause nintendo thought it was too hard.

another example, Gradius 3 arcade was so fucking hard that no one wanted to play it, causing arcade owners and kjonami to lose money. so the SNES version was made easier.

>>713449829 (OP)
he's correct. you didn't beat the game.

>>713449829 (OP)
He's right but I really don't care how other people play games

>>713462212
>Gradius 3 arcade was so fucking hard that no one wanted to play it
Honestly 100% justified and I say this as a shmup enjoyer. Actually most stages are fine, but the ones that aren't go all the way into massive bullshit that's absolutely going to kill your run no matter how many times you have practiced it. And sometimes, the the game straight up tells you to fuck off.

>>713451024
>The reason why games like Mega Man, Mario, Zelda, and many of Nintendo's other offerings are considered classics is that it was actually possible to fucking beat as a kid without banging your head against the wall
This has a lot of truth to it, but kids are fucking awful at games. If you are an adult who has played video games for most of your life, you should be able to turn on Castlevania 1 for the first time and beat it in a few hours. Maybe you'll take a couple unfair deaths in Ninja Gaiden, but you're not a dumb kid and you should be able to learn that the bird is an obstacle for that pit and shouldn't die to it a second time.
A lot of these NES games are not nearly as hard as people gave them credit for, and as long as you don't take a 15 year old AVGN video to heart and just say that it's impossible, you should be able to beat them without much difficulty.

Seriously. I'd suggest anyone who bothers to read this and has long thought of "NES hard" games as actually super difficult to actually sit down with a well known one they played as a kid but couldn't beat, and give a real try towards learning the game to beat it. There's a lot of fun to be had and satisfaction in beating games that don't just give you a free win. I feel a lot of people learned that thanks to the popularity of Souls games but never bothered applying the lesson to older games.

>>713460290
You beat the game on easy mode.

>>713450090
I got to the end doe?

it's right, but at the same time, you shouldn't really care if you 'beat' the game as long as you had fun
i might go out and hit a tennis ball with a friend, but i won't say i played a tennis match unless i went the whole three sets.

>>713463083
>you should be able to turn on Castlevania 1 for the first time and beat it in a few hours
Absolute bullshit revisionism. You would never beat CV1 in just 2 hours blind with no save states/rewind even if you're a skilled gamer

>>713453723
>It's a gen alpha word
It's a black word I've heard since 2009. It may be older, but that's when I got arrested and started hearing it.

>>713463083
Translation: it took me 40 hours to beat as a kid, I've beat it dozens of times previously, so now it takes me only about an hour to beat. Wtf why can't everyone else have the same knowledge and skills and muscle memory as me when it's their first time playing???

Retard

>>713451024
Ninja Gaiden is a classic and it's one of the toughest games on the NES library

>>713463308
Nigger mentality.

>>713463729
The last boss fight is the only real challenge unless you're going for a 1cc.

>>713451024
>He thinks Double Dragon was hard

>>713463518
Two hours is not a few. Even if it takes you 4 hours instead of 3, so what. Even if it personally takes you two nights of playing, so what. It's fun and you will likely have a greater sense of accomplishment for having beaten it.
I mentioned CV1 because it's the game that I did this with and made me realize that I had been missing out on a lot of fun because of my misconceptions of what retro games are actually like. CV1 has infinite continues, it's not like you need save states.
You will learn the levels as you die and you'll be able to get through them faster and with more health remaining for the boss at the end.
>>713463720
Wrong. I hadn't played it since I was in elementary school where I never got past the second level. Now I can beat it in under an hour though.

CVIII however is far harder.

>>713451024
Megaman 2/3 is fucking bullshit
I have no idea how kids were expected to beat Alien Wily

>>713463865
There are plenty of cheap places where the fact that you get pushed back on being hit or enemies constantly respawning fuck you up

ayo nephews, unc here to tell you that you're all complete faggots who get their new phrases straight from retarded gang culture

>>713463865
I agree with that. There are FAR harder games than Ninja Gaiden on the NES. It has infinite continues too. The last boss fight is really hard and the last level is pretty long though so it's pretty hard to get actual win, but not bad to get to that point.
>>713464025
Stop falling for the same trick over and over. Advance forward so you're not leaving an enemy spawn at the edge of the screen, and prepare yourself for the hard parts. Learn from your mistakes and it's not that bad.

>>713464009
Rondo took me 6 hours first play with Richter (OG hardware, no cheats/save states) and that was on the low end.

Most gamers will need 10-15 hours to beat a Classicvania the first time

>>713449829 (OP)
He’s right, you didn’t beat it, but that’s okay it’s just a video game after all, a video game that you didn’t beat lmao>>713451024
Mega man on the nes is filled with instant death spikes, cheap attacks, instant death holes with disappearing blocks
Don’t talk out of your ass

>>713452638
Games are way more time consuming nowadays and are way more padded than some 2 hour nes/snes game that makes you play a 5 minute level again after you lose all of your lives
Stop crying

>>713450243
its 10 inches you fake truther

>>713464273
MM1 is pretty hard, but MM2 the one that is frequently held up as the absolute best one like he says however is pretty easy. Just spam metal blades lmao.
The only difficult parts are what, the dragon, the part where you need to use Crash Bombs on the eye lasers, and the final boss?
There's a reason that mega buster only runs are so commonly played when challenge runs are really rare in most games. It actually brings the difficulty up to a reasonable level from a minimum.

>>713449829 (OP)
this guy looks like aids.
I agree nonetheless.

>>713464379
Yeah, but the old game actually demand you to show some mastery over those 5 minute stages to have enough health+lives to beat the next part unlike modern games that require you to have the patience to sit through a cutscene. Needing to learn a level and improve at a game is bad game design!

>>713449829 (OP)
I mean folks, where's the lie?

>>713464418
He is exactly six feet tall and his dick is 1/6th of his total height. That is a solid 12 inches.

>>713451024
NES hard is an amazing casual filter. Its proof that the masses do not deserve good games. I do not think that TLOZ for NES aged well. Its still decent for what it was at the time but the age and jank is very obvious at this point. Grid based movement in a top down action game never sits right with me. You don't even have a bonfire system in the game so you die its back to the same sorry ass starting points every time.

Meanwhile NG for NES is super fast pace and you get a lot of HP so even though it has a lot of difficulty I wouldn't ever say it is outright unfair until the end. If you ask me NG for NES is a much better game than really just about everything Nintendo themselves made during those years. Normies just refuse to learn to adapt to these difficult games. These arcade style games are actually way more fair then the broken shit that passes as difficulty in most games today which can be full of RNG and shit just not working as intended at all because the game needs patches since most games today are made with the idea of we can fix it later in mind.

>>713450090
Who cares

Most of the infamous NES games aren't even actually hard, they just try to prevent you from practicing with bullshit checkpoints and limited continues.
Like the final bosses of Ninja Gaiden aren't difficult, but good luck figuring out the fight when every time you die you're kicked back to the start of the world.
It's no wonder that these games get utterly raped by save states that let you practice one part as much as you want without having to go through what you already beat everytime.

You "finished" Elden Ring (or any soulsborne game). You did not "beat" those games. The only people who beat those games are the people who played them for the very first time and never died to any enemy on their first playthrough.

Let's be honest here, lads. I don't care what weapon you used or whether or not you used mimic tear or whatever. Those games absolutely kicked your ass inside out and upside down. You died a thousand times. Those games mutilated you. You did not beat those games. You completed those games. Those games absolutely beat your ass.

>>713464972
It's okay, you can just admit you suck. Lots of people sucks. It's not like anyone expects anything different out of you zoomers. You are just sort of incomplete men.

>>713463308
You can get to the end by watching a youtube video, loading a complete save file, etc,
Same as with using rewind, you didnt beat the game.

>>713464930
Evidently plenty since zoomgroids are getting triggered over it.

I'm gonna have to defer to Mike here. Unless you have a 12" penis and can prove it, your opinion is demonstrably worth less than the Loco Bandito's.

>>713465114
I cleared Ninja Gaiden and many others with one life and no continues. It helps when you can practice the run as much as you want without wasting hours on parts you already know.

>>713465367
but you didnt beat it

>>713449829 (OP)
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCH LADDIE YE DIDNAE EAT THA PORRIDGE LADDIE

>>713465367
Cool, what youtube channel had the playthoughs?

>>713461694
Holy shit at all the gen z buzzwords and excuses. Stopped at artificial difficulty. No point in giving this any more reading after seeing that phrase.

>>713464863
I think LoZ1 is still worth giving a playthrough though. It's not amazing, but it's still good. Also it's not NEARLY as cryptic as people give it credit for. Everything you need to find to beat the game is pretty reasonable and not too hard to find without looking anything up. I did a blind playthrough a few years ago and I only got stuck on where you had to use the flute to drain the pond to find one of the dungeons.
Same for LoZ2 though that one is actually pretty difficult with some of the combat, and I did end up looking up a map of the final dungeon, and cheesing the shadow link fight with crouch attacks.

Also on the note of games being touted as being more cryptic than they were, Castlevania 2 really isn't all THAT bad even if the translation is spotty. The only really awful part is where you need to crouch with the crystal. Aside from that it's just the size of the map that makes exploring agonizing. And the combat+level design being so awful. I would still not advise anyone to play CVII. It's only worth playing to see how it likely inspired the future Metroidvania games, and just to see what a large-scale action adventure game in the NES is like.
Faxanadu is better for that though.

>>713465367
Okay zoomie. Now tell me what a slayer you are because you have fucked your hand thousands of times.

>>713449829 (OP)
>unc
kys

>>713464972
>they just try to prevent you from practicing with bullshit checkpoints and limited continues.
I get what you mean and if you want to practice bosses with save states that's fine by me, but lives+continues aren't fully purposeless. They make it so you have to actually master the levels rather than just bashing your head against them until you get one lucky run.

>>713449829 (OP)
You didn't beat the game, but I also don't care that much. Old games were designed to be janky bullshit. Nobody liked back then either, but nobody knew better.

I wish I had the time to play every classic as it was but that would take hundreds of more hours which I dont have to spare. save states + speed up emulation are a godsend

>>713450509
You mean he's based beyond belief? Kill yourself child molesting reddit faggot.

>>713450208
Save states at designated check points are fine imo. All that does is save you from starting over after being cheated out of your last life.

>>713465964
I'm fine with fast forward, because it doesn't negate challenge. FF1 being able to grind a battle in 2-3 seconds versus a full minute is a godsend.

>>713453692
based taste in zoomettes

>>713466037
This, how can you stay made at a dude that pens absolute BANGERS like this? Mike Matei is the living embodiment off all that used to be good about the internet.

>>713449829 (OP)
>unc
Found the nigger

>>713449829 (OP)
If you're constantly rewinding the game, are you really having fun though? If you truly were having fun, you'd be perfectly okay replaying some parts after dying. It sounds like you're more concerned with just beating the game than having fun.

>>713466198
>child molester is still posting
This will never be your site.

>>713466356
I dont find challenge fun. I just like video games for the carnival ride.

>>713466363
*FART*

>>713451928
No, you can't.

>>713449829 (OP)
Castlevania IV had me pulling hairs so I had to save scum to save myself from my autistic rage

All I have learned from this thread is that some guy who works for the Angry Video Game Nerd has a huge dick and hates niggers.

Also that zoomers are frightened by the slightest hint of adversity and devolve into fits of autistic rage the moment something isn't handed to them on a silver platter.

>>713449829 (OP)
if I could disable it I would, but I can't and having it readily available is too tempting. It's the same issue as not being able to disable free switches in pokemon

>>713466802
BASED

>>713466802
Mike practically IS the angry video game nerd. James doesn't even like games and only kept doing the videos because Mike pressured him to in 2006. Now James just acts like a cringey, s o y chugging bald bastard while Mike is actually gaming and being angry at games.

>>713449829 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P9LX54Yaus

>>713462212
It just varies wildly with little to no consistency. Games that are considered real fucking ball busters like Battletoads and Castlevania III get their reputation primarily because of the American versions.

>>713466802
Those two observations are actually connected. Dick size and seething impotently at your own inadequacies are inversely correlative, as demonstrated by this thread.

Mike matinée should shut up

>>713467438
>just acts like a cringey, s o y chugging bald bastard
Anon...that isn't an act

>>713468182
This nigga really is the balls on the dick.

>>713465135
My beautiful wife Refia. The cat ears on the devout outfit look cuter, though.

>>713449829 (OP)
I know this is bait but ill take it anyways.
I will NOT "just let people have fun" because that leads to the general opinion and bar lowering, and now we end up in a timeline where redditors (who are retarded but typically represent the normie NPCS more, perhaps x but i dont use that trash) Seriously hold everything on the same level to not hurt feelings.
A crayon drawing by a 5 year old can get posted and if you ssay "it looks like shit" because it does, then your're somehow in the wrong now. Now somehow everything no matter how shitty is acceptable because "jsut let people enjoy things man"
So no. I will NOT let people enjoy shit. i WILL let them know they are consuming slop. i don't care if i affect a single person, just so long as i know that i am better than 90% of retards playing fifaslop and other likewise drivel

>>713449829 (OP)
You dumbasses didn't gatekeep Gen Z lingo hard enough and now ape-speak is spreading like wildfire

>>713468812
Unc crashing out live

>>713449829 (OP)
Based. Retro games should be played without rewinding or using save states

>>713466198
That last panel was pretty gold tho

Arino kacho couldn't beat ninja gaiden. What hope do I have?