Thread 713522857

The modern i5 2500k

5800x3d is

>>713522919
5700X3D is

I'm still using a 4790k/1080ti
someday I'll upgrade

>>713522857 (OP)
i use ryzen 7 1700. upgrading never. 60fps is still achievable.

my 1440p card can't hit max settings at 60fps in games anymore
what's the new best value 1440p card that isn't amd because fsr looks like shit and retarded devs require upscaling for their games to not run like literal shit

>>713522857 (OP)
Nope, it's still the 2500k

tried an R7 5800xt because my rig was acting screwy and it's crazy how much that thing kept overheating.
Luckily my 3800 wasn't the problem so I put that back in and returned that shit

>>713522857 (OP)
I loved the i5 2500k, but it left me after like 8 years of good service :(

>>713522857 (OP)
2500k overclocked like a beast, 5600 has no OC potential.
So not even close.
I have both.

>>713522857 (OP)
>>713522919
>>713522953
No, the 5500X3D is

>>713522857 (OP)
I really need a better gpu

>>713524589
hello brokie

>>713522991
Upgraded from 4790k to a 9800x3D
It's pretty nice.

I got trolled into buying a 7600x and all it does it make the fans become loud from something as small as opening a youtube video. Cpu-heavy games are basically unplayable without noise cancelling headphones. My old CPU was literally a 11 year old i5-4690k and I would rather be using that than this piece of garbage because with that I could actually use my computer without hearing a jet engine next to me all the time.

>>713525181
I know you are brainlet but consider setting ECO mode AKA 65W TDP limit.

>>713525249
i've done all this shit, it doesn't make a difference.

7800X3D masterrace

>>713522857 (OP)
CPU literally doesn't matter when GPUs cost an arm and a leg

>>713525181
I have same problem with zen 3 cpus that I have. I have to disable the turbo either with registry edit that allows power plans to disbale turbo, or directly from bios. Basically a x3D cpu climbs from 50celsius to 70celsius just from enabling turbo from power mode (though granted, I'm using 100% - 100% power mode to avoid any throttling issues in other software I use). I've come to think that these temps are not sustainable for PC gaming. I don't know what the issue is, I have many HDDs in my case, but none of them should be in the way of airflow. I have 2 front and 1 top intake fans, 1 exhaust fan back of the case, and a fan controller with which I can adjust case fan speeds. Nothing I do to fan speeds seem to be able to affect the CPU temperature, maybe because the gigantic AMD gpu (7900xtx) blows hot air directly onto CPU cooler (noctua something). Modern PC gaming with very high tdp CPUs and gigantic arm length GPUs is fucking ridiculous, this isn't a way to play video games, it's a mockery of how things used to be back in the day.

>>713525323
Then you have fucked up either thermal interface application or set up stupid fan curve.
It's not fault of the CPU either way.
AMD was still retarded with default TDP on x SKUs for Zen4, I give them that.

>>713522919
>80-90 celsius on load
nah

>>713524903
We're discussing brokie CPUs
Though afaik 5500X3D is a regional exclusive.

>>713525181
All you have to do is configure a conservative fan-curve. It is really that simple.

>>713522857 (OP)
What does that mean?

>>713525965
You can thermal limit it to 75 or 70 from bios, but I guess you're also giving away some performance. I don't understand why they thought it'd be good idea to design CPUs that run so hot (since some of that disgusting hot air is bound to end in your room, mix with air you breathe)

>>713526165
It means it's the brokie cpu for brokies who couldn't afford 5700x3d or 5800x3d

I upgraded to a 5700x from my 1700 because I couldn't find a 5700x3d and it's amazing how much better it works.
I think I'm going to get a 5060ti 16gb and run this for the next decade

>>713522857 (OP)
the 5600x is the modern 2500k, not the regular 5600. And the 5800x3d is the 2600k. The 7800x3d is the 4790k.

>>713526165
It means it's the CPU for the people who are smart and know how to get maximum value for the right price instead of eating overpriced trash that companies shit in their mouth just so they can brag about it online while getting a 0.1% increase in FPS for 10 times the price of a cheaper CPU

>>713525181
My CPU doesn't have a fan?!

Why do GPUs stop scaling past 4080 super? 5080/9070xt/7900xtx are all near each other.

>>713526272
if you have the buxx, grab 5070ti instead

>>713526505
>he didn't have 8800 Ultra for Crysis 1
my condolences

>>713525559
AMD reckons up to 95 degrees on that chip is "typical and by design"
and there's not really any evidence to suggest they're lying either.
if you're concerned about noise turn your fans down, 70c is probably fine.

>>713526575
the jacket man killed moore’s law

>>713526462
5600 and 5600X are 200MHz apart.
So depending on silicon lottery the 5600 might be even faster than 5600X.

>>713526505
hey I bought a 9950x3d so my code would compile 15 seconds faster
and so I can brag about it online while getting a 0.1% increase in FPS for 10 times the price of a cheaper CPU

>>713523830
>Good enough tier
5060 ti 16 gb (comparable to amd 9060 xt 16 gb)
>You got money to now but aren't full retard
5070 ti (comparable to amd 9070 xt)
The amd ones are only worth it if they're cheaper by 15% or higher. Nvidia still is overpriced in some regions and fuck if I know where you're at. There's the cards that are higher than the 5070 ti in performance and price but the value proposition is notably worse.

>>713526206
All CPUs are designed to run that hot. What AMD did, however, is install some AI bullshit on their CPU that OCs the CPU to the upper limit of what it can do within the thermal envelope. Old CPUs didn't automatically OC like this. Intel Turbo Boost was conservative as fuck and barely did anything. I bet if my old 6800K had modern bullshit turbo boost it'd boost to like 5Ghz+ with 1 core load.

>>713522991
Kys tranime

>>713526721
>latest monster hunter wilds update

>>713526965
Yes I hate the AI OC boosting that AMD came up with

>>713522991
what woudl be the new 4790k?
I really need an anwer to that question.
I mean im too still rocking one after 10 years. Is there any new processor that promise that again?

I'm still happy with my RTX 2060.

>>713526965
nta but whats wrong with it?
the more aggressive boosting means it's leaving less performance on the table
why wouldn't you want to the thing you bought running at it's full potential?

>>713526206
That doesn't make any sense. If anything it should run hotter to sterilize the air properly and make it clean.
For room temps CPU temp doesn't matter, only the wattage does.
Not wanting "hot" CPUs is such a retarded clueless gamer thing

Are aios worth it

>>713527709
No, just get a peerless assassin

>>713527709
if you have a space heater of a cpu or going for le sffmeme then yes otherwise no

>>713522857 (OP)
I have this but G
Guess Iam a top G after all

>>713527886
>>713527898
Okay thanks.

>>713527709
They are unnecessary most of the time, so its just about aesthetics and price tolerance

>>713527506
Cuz it makes the CPU run hot as fuck - it's extremely inefficient to push the CPU this hard because it's completely outside of the power/performance ideal. There's also risk that it's not actually perfectly stable because it is being pushed to the absolute limits that the cooling allows.

One thing I noticed with AI OC is that if it actually does hit the thermal limit of 95C, then the performance I don't even get any performance benefit despite using 100 more W.
Imagine this, CPU performed same at 4.8 and 5.4GHz in 7zip benchmark. Nasty. Power usage was totally different though.

>>713522919
Nope. Tdp too high.

>>713527921
5600G is much slower than 5600, yikes!

>>713528225
Yikey dikey, u won't even notice the different bucko

is the 5700x a good upgrade from my 2600x? I have no issues (that I know of) with my current cpu

>>713528348
Yes, it’s a significant upgrade, but the question is why you’re even considering it if your current cpu isn’t giving you any issues.

>>713528348
No. If you were going to upgrade, go for 7600 instead

running 5600x atm
thinking of upgrading to 9800x3d tho
or should I hold out until AM6?

>>713528454
this

Should I upgrade from 3600 to 5700X3D I dont wanna change my mobo

>>713528561
Just hold. Upgrade to am5 when you have money and ram is cheaper.

>>713528478
If you play at 1080p and have a 480+hz monitor, sure, get the 9800x3d. Otherwise no, 5600x is still fine and will probably still be fine for a few more years.

>>713528348
Yes it is, for a cheap and easy upgrade.

>>713528454
>>713528543
Only if you're willing to also upgrade the motherboard. And RAM. And potentially cooling solution.

>>713528561
5700X3D will last you until AM6. I’d say do it and get the 11800X3D in three years.

Are them intel-aviv gen13-14 cpus still fucked? Whats their successor? Some ultra 300 or some shit? Intel literally disappeared lol

>>713528802
There were a bunch of microcode updates but I don’t think the root issue was ever totally fixed. The core ultra 200 series is the current intel lineup, and yeah there’s no reason to buy them over similarly priced amd offerings.

>>713528802
I hope nvidia CPU is good so we get something new to CPU market

>>713522857 (OP)
so its obsolete shit

>people with 10 dollar CPU coolers from 2010 and fanless coffin cases complain about heat and noise
Yeah.

>>713529239
Not even close. 5600 and it's brothers could last you for another 10 years in general use and some mild productions like photoshop, z brush, blender etc..

>>713528309
While mostly true, there are some games that struggle with CPU performance and then you will want those 15% more FPS and much better 1% lows. Stutters are the worst.

>>713529357
nice strawman

>>713529357
I got my peerless assassin for 10 bucks(second hand).
Best 10 bucks of my life

I will get many more years from my 3700X

>>713528802
My 13th gen still died even after the microcode updates, it was clearly a hardware issue they swept under the rug.
The successors have less performance than 14th gen.
There's not really a single appealing offer on the Intel side as the new stuff sucks and the old stuff is a time bomb.

>>713522857 (OP)
I had a 6.7GHZ 1200AF and it died after 5 years

>>713529440
I think it's mostly bloated OS issue, and also bad game optimization. It doesn't help that windows is fucking terrible

>>713527396
I recently went from a overclocked 4790k to a 5600 so my vote is for that or the 5800

>>713529357
I suspect you actually have insanely high tolerance for noise. If a fan is spinning at over 900 RPM the noise level is way too high. 10 dollar CPU cooler isn't gonna be able to achieve sub 900 RPM fan speeds.

>>713529531
They really fucked up big time, huh
Shitty decisions after shitty decisions.

>>713529632
>high tolerance for noise
Usually southerners, brown skin peoples, and SEA cause they are used to thr noise of pic related.

>>713522857 (OP)
I have a computer that runs one of these but I don't do anything special with it (I just use it for a PC that I watch media on that used to be a Ryzen 5 3600X but I sold off).

PC is made for games like this

>>713522991
>>713522991
1080ti is better than 3060/4060
goyvideo scammed everyone

>>713529912
Looks fun

what is the HD600 of PC Components?

>>713529357
For me it's complaining about the fan they packaged with the chip. Might as just not have packed it if you know it can't handle the chip

>>713525965
Get a better cooler. Thermalright has made them cheap

>>713530474
It doesn't matter what cooler you have, the CPU's AI thing will just think there's mode headroom to overclock, so the temp is pretty much the same regardless what cooler you have. Basically you can only run these CPUs hot

>>713529415
will it? the problem is that fast mainstream cpus are becoming baseline and no one cares to optimize anymore

>>713529632
Deck out your case with Thermalright tl-s12s and put some tl-k12s or some noctuas on your pc cooler. The TL-s12 outperforms noctuas up to 1200 rpms, but you really don't need more than 800 rpm for your intakes to keep your PC case cool. You'll want your cpu cooler fans and your one exhaust fan to be higher though. The exhaust is underrated since a poor exhaust will just make the warm air from your cooler mix with the fresh air

>>713527074
>>713527506
>>713528073
The last thing I remember gamers caring about was efficiency. You're not running these CPUs 24/7 in a server and fretting over electric bills.
The auto-OC on new CPUs is great. Maybe they could tone it down slightly, but it's much nicer to just undervolt it and call it a day than spending hours tweaking a bunch of shit.

>>713530861
Nah there's a safe current limit on these chips that the bios is hard coded to not exceed. You cane even lower the limit. They'll run much cooler overall if you use the curve optimizer set to negative values. The better quality your chip the lower you can go. It's recommended to do this to overclock as it gives you better thermal performance

>>713531109
voltage limit*

>>713531072
Here's the problem. Lets say my performance is 100% without the AI overclock, why would I want my performance to be 101% or 99% while also consuming 100W more power? You do realize that heat has to be dissipated and evacuated from the case. The GPU is also inside the same case, it's not gonna love the extra heat and will down clock. 100W is a LOT. That's like having a full second CPU inside your case.

So I'm essentially losing performance. Thanks, very cool.

>>713529552
While I get better CPU performance on Linooks GPU performance is often worse.
Game optimization is something you can't fix.

>>713529696
Inferior genetic hair

Is RX 7800 XT decent? Had a GTX 1060, also bought additional ram, from 8 to 32. I am a brainlet with PC stuff. Was console pleb for the longest time, just made jump to pc.

>>713532194
If you have the money, you could buy 5070ti or 9070xt

>>713530874
Pretty sure it will. You can keep using 5600 and photoshop 2020. Newer versions of those softwares are trash anyway.

>>713532287
I already bought the 7800, trying to help out my son. His pc slightly outdated and we can’t play more demanding games together

>>713522857 (OP)
Sorry sweetie, that was the FX6300

I have a 5700G, it runs everything I need it to.

>>713522857 (OP)
I have a 5500 and it just werks. AMD truly trapped silicon gnomes in their cpus

>>713530071
noctua d15 or something like that?

>>713533065
The hd600s aren't overpriced though

>>713532882
Yeah. Its competent, diligent, nothing fancy but extremely stable, and very humble ( low tdp)
Man they really lucked out with ryzen.

>>713533213
And noctua is?

>>713522857 (OP)
Do you think it will last till AM6 in a couple years?
t.ryzen 5 5600 and 4070 super owner.
>>713528653
Ram prices have already come down thoughbeit.
>>713526505
I think everyone is spending all their money on a GPU instead out of dear that there will be another COVID/Bitcoin/AI and now Trade tariffs making them impossible to get for less then 5 grand.

>>713533213
yes they are

>>713533548
For what you get, yeah. There are alternatives that perform better for less

>>713522991
You've got one of the greatest gpus ever made, and nothing made in the past five years is worth playing anyway

>>713533213
You can get the better AKG for 200 bucks less or something

I just bought a 5600x for my first ever PC build after decades of being too poorfag to afford anything

>>713534335
Enjoy your PC Anon!

>>713525965
ok and

>>713534335
Should've gotten the rust bucket 14900K

uh is my AMD Ryzensets 7 7700 okay?

>3700x
>Paired with a 4070 Super
Yep, it's gaming with occasional stutters and dips time.

>>713527402
RTX 2060s are built solid. I just finished FFXVI with a 2060 Super and it played pretty well. If it could handle that and all of its particle effects, it can handle anything.

>>713536291
and it really shouldn't
4070ti s is good upper-mid gpu same as 5070, fuckers just care to optimize the games anymore

I bought a 9060xt to replace my 6600
I don't play AAA slop though
I can still cancel my order but eh
This will be my final upgrade on AM4
5600x + 9060xt

>>713528774
I've got that sucker and a 4060 and run everything i want at 1080@60, its the poorfag special