>Nintendo didn't let journos do pre-release reviews
>LCD screen after the Switch 1's OLED version
>drift is still a problem
>only 1 game (bing bing wahoo kart) at launch, every other game were just switch 2 versions of switch 1 games
>$80 games
>$10 tech demo
>Reputable leakers confirmed no Nintendo Direct this month (because Nintendo have fuck all to announce)
>The Switch 2 has an awful screen
>Loads of third parties like Atlus are getting off of Nintendo's sinking ship and didn't port their games like Persona 3 Reload and Metaphor to Switch 1
The writing is on the wall for Nintendo
>>713564801 (OP)I still feel that it's not nearly as bad as the wii u launch, and they managed to survive that.
https://gameinfinitus.com/news/sony-faces-class-action-lawsuit-in-the-netherlands-over-alleged-inflation-of-playstation-digital-prices/
https://playstationyouoweus.co.uk/faqs/
>We will be encouraging Sony to settle the claim as soon as possible so that consumers get their money back in a timely manner. However, if Sony refuses, a trial has been listed for 2 March 2026 (with a time estimate of 8 weeks).
The writing is on the wall alright.
>>713564801 (OP)>>Nintendo didn't let journos do pre-release reviewsWhy should they? Haven't journos pissed them off in the past anyways? What's the point?
>>Reputable leakerslol
>confirmedlmao
>no Nintendo Direct this monthbig whoop lol
>>The Switch 2 has an awful screenthat was already your 2nd point
>Loads of third parties like AtlusOh no not fucking Atlus! Not the fucking jrpgs! NOooooooooooooo
(lol)
>>713564801 (OP)i just don't get what the fuck they've been doing for the past few years?
were they all hands on deck for switch 1 games and then randomly decided on a whim "lts make a switch 2 lol"
where are the games??
>>713566780>where are the games??You have the entire Switch catalogue
>people who count pixels all look like dysgenic freaks
Feels good.
>>713564801 (OP)Steve Jobs and his consequences have been devastating for the rest of humanity.
>>713564801 (OP)I don't really care. I pretty much just play on my monitor.
>>713564801 (OP)doesn't matter
tendies have proven they are cattle and they are proud of it
>>713570084steve jobs tried to innovate and sell good quality stuff at a high price. nintendo tries to rip off their simps and sell broken shit for max price instead.
>>713571540What happened to portability being the selling factor
>>713571712I don't care about that?
I don't care how much it sells either I just want to play the games on it.
>>713566873>buy a new console so you can play games you've already played on itTendie cope is getting pretty sad.
>>713564801 (OP)Why don't you post actual chart instead of a screenshot of the thumbnail?
>>713564801 (OP)>blueskyEven more cringe than the switch 2 screen
>>713571669>steve jobs tried to innovate and sell good quality stuff
jesus christ tendies are NOT taking this well
>>713564801 (OP)>poorfags are seething at Nintendo againOk?
remember when tendies paid 75 bucks for cardboard
>>713572631>this is who snoys lost toKEKEKEKKEKEK
>>713564801 (OP)Nintendo is doing just fine overall, but they definitely have a "hardware problem" and I think they know that, which is why the Switch 2 was just an iterative upgrade for the original Switch. Their strategy of releasing underpowered hardware is turning away 3rd parties because they have to make concessions to get their games to run on Switch hardware, which means that nobody who owns an Xbox, Playstation, or PC is going to buy the Switch version of a multi-platform game because everyone knows by now that the Switch version is objectively the worst. As a result, you have a bunch of people who buy Nintendo consoles as a secondary machine just to play first party Nintendo titles, and then they play everything else on their Xbox, Playstation, or PC. It's not sustainable, especially given Nintendo's slow output of first party titles. They either need to beef up their consoles or get out of the hardware business altogether
>>713564801 (OP)Why does it matter if it's slow if you sit still while playing anyway?
It's funny seeing what the new cope is each week.
>>713572631what's that circle on the wall
>>713565916>b-b-but sonyalways quick to deflect
>>713573096It's a laundry chute dumb thirdie
>>713564801 (OP)I don't know man. I know it's not what many of these experts would like, but it's already a better display than what most people own. Let alone gamers. It's a 1080p 120hz display with vrr. Making that the standard for the switch 2 is great.
>>713573096wall circle to go be round on the wall
>>713572963It's funny seeing how much shit Nintendofags will tolerate for higher and higher prices
>>713564801 (OP)you forgot to mention that the NSO N64 emulator has delayed sound, and the NSO gamecube emulator has the analogue stick incorrectly mapped, there's extra input delay, and the online play is terrible.
>>713564801 (OP)There are $300 USD smartphones with 144Hz Amoled screens, Wifi 7 and support any Bluetooth controller.
Nintendo always shit.
>>713564801 (OP)It looks fine, and of course the needle dicks at digital foundry will find something to overanalyze and whine about.
>>713564801 (OP)that kinda just defends (((nintendo))) only having snail 30 fps and 60 fps games, their hardware is so inherently shit that making smooth animations that can run 2015 standards of 1080p or 720p @ 120 fps is pointless
>>713575351I linneman said something about the sw2 display being 3x slower than steam decks lcd
its not really "looks fine" situation anymore
>>713571669All Apple products are dogshit. They are the prime example of products people buy solely because of branding and disregard everything else.
>>713575428Iโve only seen John linemann bitch about it. Which means the vast majority of people will not have an issue. I canโt say I saw anything serious. Itโs not a dealbreaker. Sure itโs disappointing.
>>713575730>most people didn't see a problem with Pokemon SV so it's therefore good
>>713573096It's a glory hole.
Stick your penis inside for a surprise. :)
>>713575730the pixel response time being worst in any device ever is a dealbreaker
People who become aware of it will re-consider buying the device and look elsewhere for a better gaming experience
its not just linneman, loads of lower virality outlets talked about the display the moment they got it. Loads of people talked about it on reddit, resetera etc.
Monitors unboxed made their video and screenshots of it were posted dozens of times on /v/ catalog.
Why does the hate towards Switch 2 seem so forced?
Like itโs so fucking obvious.
People say the screen sucks and then go on rants on how it needs to be OLED. Forgetting that OLED has worse ghosting issues that can only be managed by turning off motion blurring and turning on BFI.
Then people uploading hundreds of videos of their gameplay slows down to like 11% to show input lag because we all play games at 11% apparently.
It just seems so forced man. Nothing feels organic, I am sure Switch 2 has some issues but these seem way blown out than normal.
>>713564801 (OP)>Nintendo didn't let journos do pre-release reviewsAnd that's a good thing! Game companies aren't getting shit out of those twitter-enslaved slackivists other than a bunch of parasites who want everything given to them for free yet wouldn't think twice about flaying you alive when you look away. These "journalists" aren't even needed in the internet age, especially nowadays when companies other than Nintendo are pumping out videos and web blurbs containing all relevant information directly to their customers.
>>713576219am i just a reflexlit cause i don't notice the ms difference
>>713564801 (OP)It is pretty funny seeing people already being burned out by Mario Kart World and not knowing what else to play on it, forced to wait for a essentially a month for next game.
They don't care for the old ports that they either have played already or don't care enough to play.
>>713576517No one really will. 33ms is so small compared to the average persons reaction times.
Anyone saying otherwise is just lying to themselves.
>>713576562you're late to the party, everyone is impressed by the donkey kong direct and are hyped to play it
>>713576365>the switch 2 issues arent real because im too blind and mentally slow to noticeTendies really are defending hardware thats worse than chinkshit emulators
Isn't it a good thing to point out flaws so nintendo could fix the issues in a hardware revision?
>>713576365it'll only make the switch 2 success even funnier
>>713576676Yeah and when is that coming out again?
My point is they have to wait a pretty long time just to play it. And once they're done with that game.
What's next and how long do they have to wait for it?
>>713576517I hazely recall linneman saying something about the device being shit on sidescrollers
ofc if you have a 120hz game on switch 2 its not going to look great since the pixels arent changing fast enough and theres going to be ghosting trails
in any case the image is going to be blurrier and ghostier and smearier than most other displays
>>713576219Anon, I think you have too much hope for humanity. Nintendo literally has sold people cardboard for $90 before.
>>713576709I'm not really sure what the issue even is
>>713576676No they arent. v was shitting on it and only excited for hebe feet. the game looks like shit.
>>713576709>My eyes are better than the top 1% of the planet I swear.
>>713573207>>713573832>>713576071Two of these anons are lying, and one is telling the truth. Which is which?
>The screen is shit
>They should have gone OLED
Tell me how I know this hate campaign is just from OLED burn in niggers.
>>713576837side scroller? i tried sonic mania and it looks fine. do i need to play it at 0.25 speed so i can complain about it?
>>713576973Yeah you have to record with your high speed camera on your phone then slow it down.
>>713576860you samefagging threads you mad isn't /v/
the funniest part of the direct was the chat changing from lower the price chant to RAISE THE PRICE
>>713576973Many people have claimed switch 2 display is great.
its not, but people can subjectively not care about poorly performing displays
sometimes you need experience with other devices to know what "good" looks like so maybe thats happening
I wonder if the tendies saying the screen is fine are the same ones who would complain that an extra 33ms ping when they play online is bad
>>713575428Linneman is also the biggest snoy in all of Europe and the PS2's #1 defender worldwide. Never forget that the vast majority of DF Retro videos he's done with the PS2 are skewed because he uses a special framemeister profile made to cover up the neutered colorspacing and horrible 480i interlacing inherent to the console, something he does not do for non-Playstation consoles that often get featured in comparisons. Just watch the ones for Ecco, DoA 1 and 2, Tomb Raider, etc. The guy has to splice his takes together because he's fellating Playstation way too hard sometimes.
>They should have gone OLED
>Meanwhile OLED on 1ms
We all know it's just OLED niggers getting uppity.
>>713577103maybe I'm just too old and used to CRT performance to notice the difference
>>713572689lol, when you frame it like that there really is no coming back from it. Huge L.
>Bluesky, meaning it's a tranny
>100% of trannies are Snoytrannies
I shan't fall for propatranda
>>713576219>>713576219The most successful launch for an console ever. No one cares, faggot. Youโre sperging out over pixels, while Iโm enjoying my switch 2. That makes you the retard.
>>713576219Nintendo still has garbage P2P they never fixed and their gamecube emulator comes fresh with 8 ms input lag.
None of it matters, the consumer will continue to consoom.
>>713577339Im not interested in making you feel bad about nintendo selling you a weird device but im also not going to buy an lcd display with 33ms response time in 2025 and I wouldnt rec others to do it either.
>>713576365Algorithms and Microsoft/Sony shill money
>>713569021is a nintendo fan really accusing people of being ugly lol
>>713577357how are you guys noticing 8 ms?
is everyone the flash or something?
>>713564801 (OP)>17msThis is actually quite impressive. I never would have thought there was still anyone, even dumpster tier chinkshit offbrands, making LCD panels with response times this fucking bad these days
>>713577427Donโt buy it. Itโs going to sell record amounts either way. No one cares. Hopefully a new model improves upon it.
>>713576219>average response time only roughly aligning with 30 FPSI guess that could work out for them since console games are perpetually chained to 30 or less FPS no matter the generation anyway.
>>713566780Yeah, you know that lukewarm garbage they released these last few years? Mario RPG thing, the most forgettable 2D Mario, SMRPG remake, what if Zelda was a girl? These were supposed to be Switch 2 headliners. They have fuckall now.
>>713577443Itโs not unreasonable to assume the average Nintendo fan is better looking than John Linneman. Itโs not an achievement.
>>713572689No wonder they're so perpetually butthurt lmao
>>713577550Jesus Christ you fucking retard the FPS is irrelevant to pixel response time, it's going to fucking smear at 10 FPS with response that fucking high
>>713565471They revealed their console with a lego game, it was over before it even started
>>713577460My brain turned off, it's 130 ms input lag or 8 frames, not ms.
>>713577863so its closer to 0.1 second lag? whew, made me think i was moving in slow motion compared to /v/
>>713575428The switch 2 has been out for 3 weeks, and not once in that entire time did anyone bitch about screen lag or ghosting or whatever the fuck DF found, which suggests to me that the problem isnโt a big deal and the people pretending it is are full of shit
>>713573096It's the peep hole to his bedroom he gets to look into when Tyone comes over to visit.
HEY OP YOU FORGOT THE SAD MARIO IMAGE YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
>>713564801 (OP)all that matters is software, pajeet
>>713577601Saw them at the launch, this is absolutely not true, these people were some of the most grotesque abominations on the planet, I saw at least 6 men in dresses too
>>713577196CRT performance is actually great particularly in ghosting tests.
>>713578754You think the people waiting in line are the average Nintendo fan? Thereโs going to be trannys buying the other consoles as well. The average Nintendo fan isnโt the fanboy, just as with the other consoles.
>>713578719then why does it have to be on specific hardware lmao
>>713573636>it's already a better display than what most people own. Let alone gamers.Iโm not going to be a snob and shit on a low wattage handheld screenโs performance by comparing it to my gaming monitor, but it really isnโt. Gamers spend a lot of money on hardware, but in this case entry level $200 ips and va panels are twice as fast g2g. The Switch 2 will be an interesting device to dick around with if it is ever exploited. The screen is likely capable of overdrive and it would be a feature worth enabling while plugged in.
Iโve tested several 2D games including sonic. I see no ghosting. Iโve tried my hardest to spot any obvious ghosting. Itโs a non issue. Only spergs still butthurt that the switch 2 sales in 4 days beat the steam deck lifetime sales will notice. John Linneman needs to slow shit down to even notice. If anything, maybe itโs visible to see some ghosting while you scroll through your game list.
its ogre.................
>>713579757>John Linneman needs to slow shit down to even notice.give the guy a break, he looks like he has 20/200 vision
>>713577195this is worse than my ipod classic
>>713572704Nintendo isn't retarded, dumbass. It's why they can take hits like VB and Wii U and walk away wiping the dust from a nuclear explosion. They survived since 1981 making videogames and systems and your so fucking stupid you can't understand why, so you yell and scream that they should die when MS already left consoles behind and became a subscription service and Sony is gonna Sony.
>>713576860This art style looks genuinely like stuff out of nightmares.
>>713564801 (OP)>>only 1 game (bing bing wahoo kart) at launch, every other game were just switch 2 versions of switch 1 gamesWhen was the last time a console launch wasn't shit?
>>713579572No they don't dude. I've worked at a gamestop and best buy. Most guys pc gamers use a cheap or okay monitor and say they'll just up the graphics for a better picture. On the console side of things they just use large sets or old 1080p tvs. I had a guy pull out a ps5 pro and a large "high end" 75 inch tv. It was some cheap ass insignia tv. Gaming isn't full of rich fags. It's the cheapest and easiest hobby to get into.
>>713580137Yeah thatโs a good point. My vision is very good still. Likely 20/10. At worst 20/15.
>>713580738>a large "high end" 75 inch tv. It was some cheap ass insignia tvshit, he's calling me out
>>713580738Same guy here. It's not even to defend the switch screen. On bright games it's quite nice, but games with very dark environments like cyberpunk it's quite washed out. What can't be denied is how good for gamers and the industry having an always working vrr display is going to be. You'd be surprised how many guys don't even know what that is, but will be able to feel it's smoothness
>>713576823>a pretty long timeIt's less than a month. Blink and it'll be here. What are you, 15? Your sense of time is fucking way out of whack.
The writing on the wall being it will sell millions?
My Switch 2 looks amazing on my LG CX 4k 120Hz OLED.
Sucks for poorfags I guess.
>look at this bad nintendo hardware
They've been doing this for years now, its not news.
>>713565916Yes Sony is now a tranny company. Stock price means nothing to me. All I care about are the games. Im sorry but Nintendo has been going in a bad direction since the 3DS. I wanted to get the switch 2, I really did. But there's really no value proposition that makes sense for me since I already own a Deck and a hacked 3DS
Who cares about retarded gay shit I want to play fun video games.
Switch 2 will probably be a Wii U though.
When has a console launch ever been good?
>>713564801 (OP)My peak problem is that third parties clearly have 0 interest improving their Switch 1 games, even for an upgrade fee.
So many games could benefit from 30 > 60 frames it's insane.
Same with Nintendo themselves. We got a couple games, but shit like Pikmin 3/4, Peach Showtime, both Hyrule Warriors (DE getting 60 in handheld) would be great along with them upgrading all of their Switch 1 titles to be 1080p in handheld.
>>713576860this is odyssey but with bananas instead of moons and destruction instead
>>713582653You were able to walk into any store and find a wii u by this point. I'm surprised it still has momentum. We'll see by the time donkey kong and cripple ball releases, but even they have cold feet on that one now it seems.
>>713564801 (OP)>surely nintendo will go under THIS time, right?Don't you get tired of this? Switch sales alone should stabilize nintendo financially for years.
>>713576860Holy shit I thought this was being emulated on a steam deck. This looks shit, is it docked???
>>713583640And tell me, In what way does this relate to switch sales?
>>713581754 Congrats on spending $1500 to play Kirby at 4K, champ. You couldโve bought a Switch 2, a Steam Deck, and a year of rent in Nebraska for that. OLEDโs nice, but youโre still running a tablet-tier SoC under the hood. Enjoy your crispy 20fps drops in Tears of Kingdom 2: Now With Slightly Less Blur.
>>713583974>Could have got a steam deckTell me how I know you're a seething poorfag
>>713583974Not that guy, but way to prove gaming is just a poor fag hobby. To some of us that's not much. I primarily play in handheld mode and I have a lg c3 because I do other thing and have other hobbies
>>713564801 (OP)lol nintendo is going to come to pc in the next 5 to 10 years if this society is still here by then
>>713581286Nigger, people literally have no idea what to play on the switch 2 right now.
This usually ain't an issue on other platforms because those times are usually offset by new third party games.
Where are the new third party games on Switch 2?
They're not getting Resident Evil 9, Silent Hill f and they sure as hell won't get GTA 6.
>>713564801 (OP)I love how we've shifted to
>screen response time Some literally who stat that no one has ever heard of or cared about until you ran out of other things to shitpost about. I held it up next to my Switch 1 and my Steam deck and the screen looks noticeably better than both, so guess what, it's better.
Can't wait to see what your turbo cope next week is. Probably something about the rubber on the analog sticks or some shit lol
The Switch 2 LCD has pixel response times comparable to the PSP 1000 from 2004. Amazing shit.
>>713576676Nintentoddlers maybe
when the fuck is this shitty ass website going to put a word filter on tranny
>>713584559>Some literally who stat that no one has ever heard of or cared about until you ran out of other things to shitpost about.I learned about response times the hard way when I had a CHG70. When playing at 60 FPS I'd get brutal ghosting, and even at 144Hz it would be mediocre in dark scenes (a problem with VA displays). So no, this is not some new thing; poor response times can buttfuck your motion clarity.
>>713564801 (OP)>drift is still problemNigger you still can't find a single video of drift outside of that one guy with a unit that was broke out of the box.
>>713586375It'd only been 2 weeks tendie just wait
>>713586465Then why are you saying it still drifts with confidence?
>>713586465>two more weeks trust the plan
>>713586568>>713586574Enjoy your $90 drifting sticks
>>713564801 (OP)>Bing, bing wahoo>40 year olds swarm to buy 3>This reminds them of times when they were happynintendo will continue to dominate until the latchkey generations raised on the SNES to gamecube die out.
>>713576365>People say the screen sucks and then go on rants on how it needs to be OLED. Forgetting that OLED has worse ghosting issues that can only be managed by turning off motion blurring and turning on BFI. You do not know what the fuck you are talking about whatsoever. OLED may have a lot of issues (such as burn in), but ghosting is NOT among them. Pixel response time is the best of any display technology yet, and is the reason why you can easily hit 240hz or even 480hz on a display (and you could probably go higher if not for HDMI/DP bandwidth limitations).
>>713586694I grew up on those. Nintendo has always been shit.
>>713564801 (OP)LCD's look alright with some form of ULMB technology. Something OLED's haven't been able to get right since BFI just doesn't reduce blur to any acceptable level, LG's OLED motion pro is very average (as are many other solutions) and i don't think it looks as smooth as basic backlight strobing. The best solution for OLED's going forward is to do some form of CRT beam simulation built into the screen at internal software level. Nvidia's gsync pulsar module is yet to materialize in a substantial way but that will also potentially bring back some interest i have in LCDs. If not just for gaining back some basic form of motion clarity in the modern age.
Pixel response times will generally always favor the OLED. Yet there is flaws with both technologies regardless. This is kind of off topic from the screen used in the switch. I just wanted an excuse to rant.
>>713586895OLED ghosts harder than LCD this is common knowledge.
>>713564801 (OP)I saw the alien and thought this was going to be a CRT thread. disappoint...
>>713564801 (OP)It will still be the most fun and successful console this generation (and the next). Cope and cry haters. Sit in your corner as Nintendo dominates this industry.
I don't care about whatever nigger aids shit this is talking about, but I was charging my switch 2 and set it on my couch, my cat jumped up and knocked it down. It fell a whopping 1 foot onto a very thick plush carpet and the fucking left joystick broke clean off.
I saw similar stories posted and thought they were exaggerating but holy shit.
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>>713564801 (OP)Snoys trying to find flaws in Switch 2.
>>713587307oh shit he's in the middle of writing paragraphs about his baby shit smear motion clarity not being termed "ghosting" because that's something else entirely
>>713587894I went to walmart and bought a replacement and superglued it back on, gonna return it tomorrow and tell them it won't sync.
Yes I am that big of a piece of shit, but I don't think I should be out $55 because nintendo built something so insanely fragile.
>>713588090am I missing something?
>>713587947It literally still drifts
>>713588216It's crazy to me how many retards still find drift to be a problem.
Should it happen at all? No
But there's a $5 permanent fix that takes zero skill and about 8 seconds.
>>713588268They made it harder to repair this time lmao
>>713588536I haven't had to look into it at all, but can you not just lift the little rubber condom and spray electric contact cleaner in it anymore?
I like the magnetized joycons, but wish they stuck with the old style and upgraded to hall effect sticks instead
>>713564801 (OP)It never will be because there will always be tendies who will get shit on and come back for more
Worse, they'll ask why you aren't getting shit on
>>713571980this
i own every single switch game already
i need to consume new product
>>713564801 (OP)Smaller companies have survived worse launches.
oops, broke your launch records
oops made billions of dollars
oops there goes gravity
>>713584546Normal people aren't terminally online faggots like this shithole and don't blow through games in a week. A lot of those "old" games will also be new to casuals.
Hogwarts Legacy is still selling well in the God-damned Switch 1, where it's easily the most inferior version. Sure, some of those people will be looking for a cheap upgrade, but others will just be buying the Harry Potter game on their only console.
Fuck, even the dogshit version of EA FC 25 is still selling well on Switch.
There's a point where you faggots have to realize the touch grass meme isn't a fucking meme.
>>713564801 (OP)Keklmao Nintentards never learned their lesson
>https://youtu.be/Cb-srOfRqNc?si=JZKbFBClPwV37l44>https://youtu.be/wnwKNIRQ5O0?si=gNaxKA44-N7c4xVQ>https://youtu.be/iOsuUuNWv0g?si=hwoU2LgFDDshoymx
>>713588216>It literally still drifts
>>713589127it's only a problem when nintendo has it
>>713564801 (OP)The writing is on the wall for Nintendo
>>713589127To my understanding, drift is caused by dust/debris making its way between the electrical contacts on a joystick. Is that right?
It was only ever a problem for me on my switch that was left docked for like 2 years
>>713588210Yeah, theyre in the archive
Another one will pop up soon
>>713564801 (OP)What causes such mental illness?
>>713584546>Nigger, people literally have no idea what to play on the switch 2 right now>They're not getting Resident Evil 9, Silent Hill f and they sure as hell won't get GTA 6.Nigger, you can't play those games right now either.
>>713584546I'm playing rune factory
>>713584546>They're not getting Resident Evil 9, Silent Hill fI'd be reeeeally careful about any kind of claim with Japanese & East-Asian games if I were you. This isn't the 2015 back when these third-parties could easily retreat on Playstation as a relevant platform for their home market.
Even the most reluctant studios like Nihon Falcom, Ryu ga Gotoku Studio, Ace Combat, Aquaplus, etc. had their hand forced in supporting Nintendo because of the current state of said market in the last few years.
I don't notice stuff like this so I'm just gonna buy it anyway to play their games
I genuinely don't remember the Nintendo defense force being this bad for the original Switch. Am I getting senile?
>>713589816It's a bunch of tech geek autofellatio that no one gives a single fuck about in the real world.
>>713589871So why do you feel the need to reply in earnest?
>>713564801 (OP)I dont know what they are talking about. The new screen is so big and immersive that I completly forgot my surroundings playing MK world at a outdoor concert.
I'm still waiting for reports of drifting or connectors breaking
>>713589816The original switch felt like an underdog, the current one has an ego inflated fan base. But I:d also say that the first switch wasn't criticized as much as the switch 2.
>>713565916oh no the netherlands! and its 17 million people! given average distribution, this class action lawsuit is about 159,000 playstation owners....out of 75 milllllllionnnnn its oooovvvveeerrrrr!
>>713589816I don't remember so much seethe over the first switch
If you zoom into the screen 1000% and slow it down 1000% you can see it kind of blurs
Wow. I'll make sure not to do either of those things then.
>hardware motion blur
Nintendo is amazing!
>>713590262I think you're right.
I feel like most people wanted Nintendo to succeed after the blunder that was the Wii U.
>>713590340I do. Everyone was complaining about the shitty specs.
>>713569619why are you getting hard?
>>713590373But, bro! 2 milliseconds!
>>713564801 (OP)Why are Snoys like this?
who care, you will only use dock and 4k tv
>>713590623That's a big deal when I'm playing competitive splatoon
Not buying a switch 2 until it has at least 3 games I want to play and someone makes joycons like these again for it.
>>713590721Then you play on TV
>>713590725Give hori like a month.
>>713591434Hopefully they make one with the gyro/rumble in it this time.
>>713591591I prefer shawarma personally
I have no plans to buy a Switch 2 but I think I only played my old Switch out of the dock like a dozen times total
>The writing is on the wa-
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
>N-Nintendo didn't let journ-
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
>T-the wr-writing i-is on t-the wa
HAVE A ROTTEN DAY!
>>713571669>anti-nintendo monkeys are appleniggersbruh
>>713564801 (OP)I mean what did you expect to happen after Iwata died and Reggie left.
Now Nintendo is run by greedy suits 1 from EA and 1 from japan that only wants quick and easy money.
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>>713589316>dustThis is just plain wrong and this disinfo needs to end. The potentiometers have a resistive material inside, usually graphite, that a wiper slides against. The level of resistance tells the potentiometer where the stick position is. This material wears out over time. You cannot "fix" a drifting potentiometer by spraying contact cleaner in it, the resistive material is fucking GONE. Dust is not the problem and never was. The problem is that the potentiometer literally mechanically wears out over time and nothing can stop that process.
>>713592832Then why did spraying contact cleaner fix drift every single time?
>>713593998>fix drift>every single timeIt didn't. If you have to keep doing something to alleviate a problem, you aren't fixing the problem, you're applying a bandaid.
>>713592832>buy switch>no drift>barely use it>2 years of dust later pick it up>it's drifting>spray it with electronic cleaner>it's no longer driftingexplain?
>>713594095I never had to do it more than once on the same stick. I have multiple joycons and pro controllers. A few of them developed drift after sitting for a while, and contact cleaner fixed all of them.
>>713594171You are a lying shitposter. I don't have to explain shit. I know how potentiometers are built and how they work.
>>713594230Are you retarded?
Do you really not understand an issue might have multiple causes? Do you not understand how dust can fuck with electrical contacts? Do you not have Google in your country?
>>713564801 (OP)wow, so they are equally shit as Playstation and Xbox. its so over for Nintendo!
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>>713594357You're so full of shit you fucking retard. Kill yourself. You want to fucking explain to me how "dust" is getting into the green area? Fuck you.
>>713592832>The problem is that the potentiometer literally mechanically wears out over time and nothing can stop that process.I have yet to encounter a drift issue despite I've been regularly using the Switch since late 2020, with more than 3,000 hours of play.
Maybe not
>handling things like an enraged gorilla>leaving the belongings left in the open (instead of putting them inside cases/pouches to avoid dust)>touching them with greasy hands help a lot in preventing that kind of problem.
Worst new console ever. It's been shat on since reveal and I don't think there's anything that can turn things around
>>713594486Kill yourself bootlicking corporate shill
>>713594486>The problem doesn't exist of it didn't happen to me despite being common enough for it to raise 2 separate lawsuits against nintendoYou are such a bootlicker it's unreal
>>713564801 (OP)thats like saying the iphone was doomed because other phones have better stats
with nintendo its not about technicals but about "vibe" and mario and zelda and pokemon
>>713572631labo was a genius idea from nintendo in which they managed (at least somewhat) to sell their old pizza boxes
>>713594651Then why did Wii U flop when Mario and Zelda were on it
>>713594484>this thing with hundreds of easily sourceable examples that's very well documented isn't true because I said so!!!!!Literally the only times I had stick drift was on controllers that sat for a long time.
>>713594689Why did they have old pizza boxes though
>>713594705because nintendo still makes mistakes in this case bascially no one outside of the industry/hobbist circle even knew it was a new console. The name gave it the vibe of it just being the wii or a ps4pro situation.
>>713594751They threw a big pizza party every 1 million sales.
With such a successful console, it happened a lot.
>>713577601>the average Nintendo fanThe average "fan" is a pathetic and worthless waste of DNA to begin with. Being a "fan" of a company, especially when you are an adult is retarded behavior.
>>713594539>>713594585I don't think you anons know what "bootlicker" means, but I know the Nintendo derangement syndrome is indeed a real thing.
The worst thing that happened with the joycon sticks in my case were the plastic tips wearing out and coming off after heavy use, but they were easily replaceable.
Ordered the tips from Amazon, but I remember calling a local repairer before and the dude wanted me to buy a new pair of joycons lol
I don't recall having any issue with my two Dualshock 4 controllers either, but again I applied the same logic as I do with the joycons.
>>713594809with just a couple of boxes even you can transform yourself into carboard iron man
it was kinda scumy but also really lol worthy smart because i now if i was a 7 year old child i would bitch to my parents that i neeeeed it lol
>>713594869Being a responsible adult that takes care of your belongings is very difficult for some people, anon. Stop being so ableist. Retards can't help being retarded.
>>713564801 (OP)>The writing is on the wall for Nintendoand it spells one million bajillion dollars
>>713564801 (OP)>The writing is on the wall for Nintendo>>>/wsg/5905970
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>>713565471The Wii U was a success at launch, it sold better than the Wii which was also considered a very good launch.
But after the first quarter, sales plummeted and never recovered.
>>713572631>>713594918>Toy company makes toysWow, imagine that, what a concept!
>>7135963831. you're a retard and not reading data right
2. the switch was still selling and this thing is literally just a switch+, why would it not sell
>>713596674The oled switch which didn't do jack shit still sold. This is a real huge upgrade, people are just coping
>>713564801 (OP)Do we know if this is a hardware issue or a software one?
It could be interpolation
Is drift still an issue with switch 2?
>>713597326Software. Higher response rate would drain battery faster, so they capped it.
>>713597457Too early to tell. There's been no reported drift cases so far.
>>713597457The sticks are sealed better which should help minimize shit from getting into them
Anyone else hoping Nintendo sticks with the "Switch" name and just keeps making Switch successors (Switch 3, Switch 4, ect)? The Switch is the perfect console
>>713597489I know about overdrive, I'm just wondering if the 120hz is causing some interpolation at 60hz
I guess we won't be able to tell fully until a 120hz game actually releases
Will these last Wii U games (also Wind Waker HD and Twilight Princess HD) get ports on the Nintendo Switch 2?
>>713597941With windwaker being one of their big GameCube emulation titles, I doubt it
Tendies don't consume tendo because of their hardware or games.
They do it cause it's tendo and they're tendies.
>>713598061The number one projection from a sony fanboy
>>713572704In fairness, what's the point of having three virtually identical pieces of hardware? Being portable is like the one meaningful difference the Switch 2 has from its competition. The PS5 and the Xbox are practically the same machine. We're no longer really in the era where third parties get pissy because Nintendo refuses to get with the program. If you want power, you go to the PC, PS5 and/or Xbox. That's how it's been for the past three generations. No one really needs the Switch to be as powerful as its competition.
>>713598207This. The only current gen console I own is the switch for exclusives and I will be getting the switch 2 when it is back in stock. I only use PC and Switch
>>713583974>NebraskaPlaying Kirby at 4k and then killing yourself would be a way better way to spend the money and it's not even close
>>713564801 (OP)Apple hasn't gone bankrups for selling $2000 M1-M4 Macbooks where the screen dies after a year. Not even a class action lawsuit. I think Nintendo is fine. Corpos won. Consumers just don't give a fuck about quality any more and
>>713564801 (OP)It's shit like this why the Switch 2 WILL flop.
>>713598207Sure, but we're talking about the fact the Switch is now priced like a primary platform over having any other console machine. It used to be priced to the point you could justify having a Playstation and Xbox alongside a Switch for maximal coverage of games out there. Unless you are rich, you are not going to tell me that funding a Playstation 5 and Switch 2 would be a walk in the park for most folks nor would it be as viable of an option as it was last generation. Nintendo is clearly trying to upsell the console to that status, and I don't think it will work. The CPU will bite ports in the ass sooner rather than later, and there aren't that many high profile PS4 and Xbox One games that never made it over to the Switch so ports are not going to be funded at nearly the same rate.
>>713589078Here's the thing, most casuals won't care for the majority of old ports. You think they're gonna care about buying and playing Yakuza 0 on the switch 2?
No, they're gonna go for the big new shiny thing. And yes literally casuals are the ones complaining about Mario Kart World, they're not the ones going for all the open world activities. All they do is play a bit of the races either with their families or online and keep doing that and eventually they realize its alot of the same thing and get bored easily.
>buying a console on release
ngmi
>>713589460The idea is that they see these games are coming out on these certain platforms, they see and be excited for it.
You think they see GTA6 not coming out on Switch 2 makes them want to buy a Switch 2?
>>713589567>Even the most reluctant studios like Nihon Falcom, Ryu ga Gotoku Studio, Ace Combat, Aquaplus, etc. had their hand forced in supporting NintendoSounds like a bad call then because it seems like third parties aren't selling all that well on the switch.
>SMT V fell to an abysmal 10k sale in a whole fiscal year when it was switch exclusive meanwhile every other games in the list has healthy legs
>>713564801 (OP)Where can i find the data for these tests?
Reminder that Switch 2's display has response times on par with the first model of PSP
>>713603758Are you still trying to pull this shit when SMT V sold 1.5 million on Switch?
>>713603808Please don't ask such anti-semitic questions.
Let's look at the Switch 2 launch titles
>Mario Kart
>โฌ80 rerelease of Breath of the Wild with no new content and also you have to buy all the DLC again separately
>โฌ80 Tears of the Kingdom rerelease
It's so over for Nintendo. This will be the Wii U 2. My advice? Buy a Steam Deck.
Why are tendies so tech illiterate?
>>713604151So best console launch in the last decade?
Seethe Deckie lmao
>>713564801 (OP)Every console release since the Wii has been the final nail in the coffin for Nintendo according to analysts and journalists, and it was not true even once.
>>713603808The ones john is referring to aren't even the most interesting tests. What monitors unboxed did is even more jarring.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB67B8LCorI
>>713586631So like all console controllers on the market? Which one doesnโt develop drift?
>>713598061That's a quite good definition of what a tendie is ngl
>>713604404Ho did he test it without a browser on Switch 2?
>>713604619The correct way to do the test is with a high-speed camera instead of relying on the goofy alien in the first place.
>>713598096He's not wrong, tho. Also deflecting to 'muh sony' when discussing tendo's problems is another tendie classic hit. It's also why they get away with releasing substandard hardware since the Wii
>>713589291>salesvs
>shipped
>>713604404>oled shill-in-chief shits on a perfectly fine lcdYeah okay anon.
>>713604845Making shit up, lying and spamming the catalog because you believe you can make Switch 2 fail that way is not "discussing tendo's problems".
You lost the right to argue this way the moment you shat yourself all over the place with "$90 gaems!" instead of discussing the real price.
>>713605060>perfectly fine lcdlol lmao
>>713576860why is nintendo making every one of their first party titles open world ?
>DK>Zelda>Mario Kart>Marioit's like they just discovered they exist.
Open world fucking sucks and only like two games have ever made it fun.
>>713605158Neither DK Bananza, nor Mario are open world, cretin.
>>713605092Nintendo isn't your religion, anon. You don't have to defend the mega corporation just because the screen it released has 3x slower response time than any modern LCD screen made for office use.
>>713605060>perfectly fine lcdits response times are worse than the fucking switch 1
you have to dumpster dive to find a monitor this bad
>>713604264If they were tech literate they a wouldn't be tendies anymore
>>713572252Based. Denied from pussy and from the internet.
>>713605282>No! Don't call me out for for having nuclear meltdowns non stop for the past 6 months because the toy I hate isn't bombing!k.
>>713603995Then why did it drop to 10k?
>>713605631The fact that the Switch 2 screen has a response time that is 50% slower than the Switch 1, which already has a response time that is 100% slower than most LCD screens on the market (even when you consider those designed for office work), is something relevant about portable hardware, anon. Stop defending a company as if it were your fucking religion.
You should be the first to complain because you probably bought a Switch 2 at launch.
The meltdown in 3 weeks when Bananza scores 10's across the board will be funny to watch.
Steam Deck is the superior handheld. Cheaper, has a better screen, a much, much larger library of games and can also play Nintendo games. I'm playing Wind Waker HD on mine.
>>713605158Nintendo is always ten years behind the curve
>people sperging out over test results that are only machine measurable
You lot are like audiofools who think distortion below human hearing range totally matters and messes with your sound lmao
>>713606535Looks like cheap shit. Glad the Switch 2 already dunked on it
>>713606538Dunno they were years ahead of everyone else for overpriced games.
but cyberpunk runs at 40fps!!
Man it's kinda sad how everyone is latching on to this non-issue so hard. It's literally unnoticeable.
If you think I'm wrong, then please go ahead and link to any thread from the archive that complains about this specific issue. I'll wait =)
>>713572252>strawman is a ginger who wears a vest and bike gloves INSIDE while gaming and calling people niggersseems like they really went out of their away with this one
>>713564801 (OP)So which one in that list is the switch2?
>>713572631HAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHSHAHAHA
>can't do 120hz
>can't do hdr
>is an IPS
>barely does dci-p3
What year is this, 2017?
>>713606586>only a machine can measure response times better than those of a barely compliant 30hz screenthere are people using 144hz, 240hz, 360hz, 480hz and 600hz monitors right now
your eyes are just shit if you genuinely think that
>>713608094>gamers>consuming placeboName a more iconic combo.
>Pulls out Xbox and plays Dark Souls 2.
>>713572317>>713575480>>713591789the first few iterations of iphones were revolutionary and it took other smartphone makers nearly a decade to catch up. coincidentally once jobs died, iphones became boring, stale and overpriced
>>713603758>Sounds like a bad call then because it seems like third parties aren't selling all that well on the switch.Have you actually looked to Famitsu/Media Create charts? Switch versions of multiplats sell about twice (sometimes thrice) the numbers of any Playstation SKU.
And I'm dubious about the 'global sales' since they count selling Steam keys to third-party resellers and shipments as sales, not just the actual sell-through data like Famitsu & MC are both doing.
>>713576365>Why does the hate towards Switch 2 seem so forced?I feel like everyone is pilling their frustration with current gen on nintendo.
Notice "physical" media with a download code is not new but haters act like it is.
Or complaining about 80$ prices while they remained silent as 70$ price increase got standard.
Or how getting your system bricked/banned for piracy has always been a thing and now suddenly Nintendo is the devil for doing it.
Right now youtubers and the like are milking this content.
Then you have deckies trying to shill their machine.
Its manufactured outrage at its finest.
It will cool off as normies dont care about shit like pixels. They just see games looking better on Switch 2 and they will play as games get released.
Why do trannies care about this stupid UFO so much?
>>713609150Based 24fps enjoyer telling everyone how it is.
>>713608631>everything that my consolebrain can't utilise is placebo
>>713609150why are tendies unable to analyse things beyond their face value?
>>713571669Aide from the stonkingly huge cameras and apple cloud (which is cool but you still gotta pay for it), android is a much more open and user intuitive system with greater customisability and control options. Apple is for normalnigs just like Nintendo is for under 8's.
>OP spreading FUD again
The screen can do 120hz and suggesting it is more like 30hz is an obvious and blatant lie.
>>713606213But what does that mean practically? My switch 2 screen looks just fine.
>>713612320Why are we using NFT terms for this console war shit now?
>>713612602I didn't know NFTs were around in the 1970's. Interesting.
>>713564801 (OP)Can ANYONE explain whay the fuck this actually means in practice? The screen still runs games at 60 fps, does it not?
>>713608996The proof is right there. 10k sales.
Switch games might sell well during launch but drop off like a boulder soon after.
>>713613198it runs at 60hz but it can't switch to the next frame fast enough so it produces massive ghosting as the best the display can do is 30
>>713612320tendies don't understand tech
refresh rate doesn't mean shit when it's attached to a slow as shit display which can't manage to display those frames that fast
>>713613482>it produces massive ghostingIf it's "so massive" then how come I don't notice it when I play in handheld?
>>713564801 (OP)dishonest post
dishonest twatter
the person who originally made the original article rated the switch 2's LCD as an A, and a B+ for competitive games.
>>713613680because controllers fucking suck as an input device
>>713613680because hes lying.
Not one single person has mentioned ghosting until AFTER people started posting this, which just proves its a psyop that worked on retards (or bad apple plants)
also, this
>>713613784>the person who originally made the original article rated the switch 2's LCD as an A, and a B+ for competitive games.not even the guy saying 'its bad' is saying its bad.
>>713613819Genuinely, what are you talking about? User inputs aren't the only things that causes a screen to update. So you're just a retard, got it.
>ANOTHER nintendo derangement thread
>>713613923user inputs is how you're going to feel the screen's value you tard
refresh rate matters way more when you're using a mouse that can do non linear micro movements than a controller that moves in predictable lines
Reminder that the Macaco is melting because Sony just got sued by the Netherlands due to scamming people with inflated digital prices lol
>>713614081>feel the screen's valueI thought this was an issue with ghosting? Once again, what the fuck are you even talking about?
>>713579132>The average Nintendo fan isnโt the fanboyBait used to be believable
>>713564801 (OP)The claim made by John. The digital foundry member we all know is a huge snoy shill is wrong.
>>713614209>turd worlder doesnโt know what average means
>>713614248>Retard faggot snoy lies on his reportI wish you could sue people for blatant misinformation.
>>713614204have you ever used a mouse?
>>713614636Of course I have, what the hell does that have to do with ghosting? You seriously sound like a massive retard right now
>>713566780>where are the games??If you look at the switch 1 strategy, they have a fucking good one.
Nobody is competing with nintendo in their own handheld, you could release gta6 on the damn thing and people would still buy the new mario.
So Nintendo is only competing with itself.
So on the switch 1 they at some points had an exclusive every single month.
So you launch your console with mario kart, your fanbase all buy mario kart, a month later they all buy donkey kong because they're done with mario kart.
Then drop Metroid, splatoon spin off, air riders.
Never tell the user base long in advance whats coming out so that they can save money because they rather have game A instead of B.
Nintendo has godlike marketing, never fucking forget
>>713614690and when was that? five fucking years ago?
the screen's perceived quality is tied to the quality of the input device
it's the same reason movies can manage to hold on to 24fps, it's because you're not fucking doing anything and controllers aren't much better
>>713614954But what does that have to do with ghosting?
>>713604404They all look like shit, what's the point?
>>713615105Hmmm maybe not playing at 60hz hmmm?
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>>713608996>Have you actually looked to Famitsu/Media Create charts? Switch versions of multiplats sell about twice (sometimes thrice) the numbers of any Playstation SKU.>Japan, place where Nintendo dominates would sell double on Switch compared to other platformWell no fucking shit retard
>>713615032consolecucks still swear by 30fps because controllers fucking suck and and that screen is so bad it can only display 30fps with reasonable ghosting
are you getting the picture yet?
>>713615268You dumb fucking faggot. The switch 2 can run games at 60 fps. That's not the supposed problem. The supposed problem is that it ghosts while doing so (it doesn't)
>>713615437>(it doesn't)the input device is so shit you can't tell
and you bought a console with no games on launch day so your sense of taste is already questionable
>>713566780>i just don't get what the fuck they've been doing for the past few years?Making oversized open world slop maps. Every Nintendo game is Skyrim now.
>>713615546If it was an issue with ghosting I would see it regardless of the input device. You are genuinely a retard
>>713615657again retard, the ghosting effectively takes it down to 30hz and i'm not going to rely on the opinion of a sunk cost controllercuck who bought it on launch
>>713615815If that was true than I should be able to see it through a video, no? Post a video that proves the games actually run slower than 60 fps
>>713615983they don't run slower
the screen is fed 60 and that's then crushed into looking like 30 with how long it takes for the screen to switch pixels and none of you launchcucks could tell the difference until actual reviewers looked at it
>>713616145>they don't run slowerThen what's the actual problem?
>>713614248>The digital foundry member we all know is a huge snoy shillnah, he's not snoy check his goty videos. he's more of a retro guy at heart, he likes stuff like contra and ridge racer. he could have made a mistake here, no one is perfect.
>>713616231>what's the problem with the screen being complete dumpster tier that crushes 60fps into 30?your standards
you need to search through an actual e waste bin to find anything remotely this bad to plug into a pc
>>713616453So are you saying the screen DOES run slower than 60 fps? Again, I'm trying to understand what you are saying the problem even is.
>>713616628the screen runs at 60 but the response time is so bad it gets crushed into 30
how many times does this need to be retreaded
>>713614345Then averages don't matter and the original argument has no weight at all
>>713616697What do you even mean by "it gets crushed into 30". Tell me PRACTICALLY what I should be noticing.
>>713616808i'm telling you that if you're a chronic consolecuck you won't notice
nintendo knows their customers well
why are we comparing standalone LCDs to portable ones?
you wouldn't compare a laptop to a desktop if you're out to get the best laptop
>>713617383If you can't even explain the problem clearly then why should I even believe there is one?
>360p
>30fps
>24kb/s audio output
>Dial up speed wifi chip.
>1500ms input lag.
>Day one drift controllers.
>150 nits maximum brightness.
>20 minute battery life.
>Emulated a week before launch.
This could very well be the last Nintendo console, gentlemen.
>>713616697There's no such thing as framerate crushing. It's just motion blur. It's bad, actually really shitty, but it's not "turning 60 into 30fps".
>>713616767Not everyone is an autistic retard like yourself, just as not everyone Nintendo enjoyer is one. Only spergs obsess over screens in attempt to shitpost. Literally nothing mentioned about this until that ugly faggot needed a slo mo camera to show it to us.
>>713573636Almost every smartphone has a better screen.
>>713617513because the problem lies within your eyes and your low standards and you can only feel those slipping when you're accustomed to a higher standard
which you clearly aren't nor is any real devoted tendie
>>713566780>where are the games?4 switch 2 exclusives announced for 2025 alone, which is already 4x as much as ps5. prime 4, mario kart, bananza, kirby star ride. then for next year we have announcements of duskbloods and splatoon raiders already.
now, you might not be interested in these but how is that not a 10 times higher output than the competition?
>inb4 quantity over quality argument and how having no games is actually a sign of quality and care
>>713617815Almost every smart phone is more than $450.
>>713617841Just fucking tell me what sort of problems I SHOULD be seeing, and you'vdhave a point. But you can't even manage to that, so you just sound like a retard blowing out hot air.
>>713618025i'm telling you that you'll only see the difference if you're accustomed to something better
>>713618089And I am asking you to tell me what yhe goddamn "difference" is in the first place. If you can't even describe it then why should I ever believe you?
>>713618089The average person does not care. Only people like yourself that have never, and never will have contact with a woman are concerned. Though itโs not like you had any intention of buying a switch 2 in the first place.
>>713618296the difference isn't told, it's seen when it's a step down from being habituated into quality
>>713618310>tranny responsereturn to bluesky
>>713618537>the problem is one you can't explain, you just FEEL itWhat a non answer lmao.
Alright, faggot. I wanted you to admit to the actual problem first, but since you're such a faggot, I'll tell you anyway. I've been using 144hz monitors for pc gayming for like the past 5 years (LG 27GL83A). Now, tell me what's the exact difference I should be noticing
>>713618813then there's nothing more to be said
you're blind and that's that
>>713597737It would be wise to start doing numbers and never pull something like "Wii U" again.
Far too many parents and grandparents were turned into villains by that stupid fucking name confusing them. Even the sales numbers show the Wii skyrocketing in sales the same time the Wii U launched.
>>713619356Awful response. No one believes question dodging faggots like you
>>713619418i'm sorry for your eyes
maybe you should actually change the refresh rate on your system because i have no fucking clue how anyone could possibly say all that shit
Niggercattle will happily accept an lcd screen with 33ms latency
buying broken knockoff chinese panels is somehow an upgrade
redditors still buy this slop
โSwitch 2 is useless dogshitโ
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>>713619629Ok, but can you tell me what sort of differences you see?
>>713590721Is it? When splatoons tick rate is like triple that of any other online game
>>713572704They have a hardware problem, they have a game problem and they have a value problem. It's like all the things that could go wrong with a console, it's made worse by the fact that Nintendo is as cocky as MS in the early 2010's, so they're definitely not going to cave in and will probably to rather sink and then come up with their next console.