>Joins you late act 2 in Dargonus
>His class isn't half as overpowered as Blade Dancer/Executioner
>You have to do both a boss and a ship battle to recruit him
Why did Owlcat do him like this?

>>713579725 (OP)
what, it's super easy.

>>713579725 (OP)
Why is he black?

>>713579725 (OP)
>Late Act 2

I'm still in act 1 but I'm gonna rush Dargonus after footfall just to see if he has anything to say on Janus.

>>713579996
His mom race mixed, that's why he looks half black

>>713579725 (OP)
I imagine RT and Darktide were forced Adeptus Arbites expansions per GW mandate, so I guess you can write it off as a lack of enthusiasm.

>>713579725 (OP)
Can I do all the content in act 2? Or is it like void shadows, where the other half unlocks in act 4? Or if the latter, can I start it all from act 4? Wageslave with responsibilities here who doesn't have time to do another playthrough, but thinking I might have a save in act 4 or 2 and can go through just it.

>>713580634
I was told last thread that it's like void shadows, it starts in act 2 and ends in act 4

>>713580668
Will I be able to start it in act 4 instead of act 2, though?

>>713581042
I assume so

>>713579725 (OP)
Has anyone got to him yet?

the new archtype is really fun with the usual suspects, in the same turn you can buff your entire team with idira then relocate the raven and AoE blind the enemy into irrelevance

What is the ideal order for Act 1?

>Eurac into Phila into Minoris
Loot Eurac, Winterscale lives but is crippled, Rykad is a shitshow but you are overleveled

>Phila into Eurac into Minoris
Winterscale is safe, skip a skill check to accuse the bad navigator, Rykad shitshow

>Minoris into Phila into Eurac
Discontents on Rykad and Private get to live, Winterscale crippled, Eurac a mess

>Minoris into Eurac into Phila
See previous for discontents, Eurac a mess but manageable, Winterscale dead as a doorknob

>>713582327
Fuck PF pet cancer and fuck Owlcat for shoving it even into RT.

>>713581042
I was able to start Void Shadows in act 4, should probably work the same way with this

>>713582396
Eurac V, Rykad Minoris and the prison. Winterscale doesn't die.

the servo skull works just like the raven, but for officer / operative abilities

>>713579725 (OP)
we shouldve gotten this brown qt as our arbites rep

>>713579725 (OP)
is a pyromancer warrior/executioner viable?

>>713583732
Pyro/executioner is literally one of the most broken builds in the game.

>>713583637
>qt

>>713579725 (OP)
Which arbeetus is better, shotgun or melee?

How important is build autism in this game? I'm trying it on hard but I'm getting my ass whipped by the first chaos demon

>>713584094
Isn't the new guy a shotgun arbie?

>>713584479
Less than the PF games. I'm also giving it a shot on hard but I've done the game on daring before and the difficulty plummets after the one spike half-way through

Owlcat should learn from Void Shadows and just make each DLC a new waifu

>>713584824
Thank god the next two DLCs are apparently going to have a necron and an ork

>space marine and darktide get jackshit on /v/
>buggy rpg slop routinely gets threads
The shooter really is a dying genre, isn't it?

>>713584962
I just looked it up and Darktide has 20k more 24-hour players
don't use fucking /v/ threads as a sign of popularity

>>713584896
Here comes a big sexy NECRON

>>713584824
It's the husbandos turn get a grip.

>>713582396
Do Eurac until the lift to Cassia, then go to the prison, then go back to Eurac.

>>713583732
Im playing one right now and it rocks.

>still no clownussy
Amazing.

Where is kibbles

>>713584479
Any difficulty higher than story mode requires build autism

>>713579996
Racism has no place in the Imperium of Man.

>>713582396
You can also apparently save the redhead who gets covered in boiling oil & she becomes the private's waifu, but for the life of me, I can't get it to happen & nobody on the internet can help on the matter.
No, I'm not making this shit up. The dialogue is in the files.

Finally going to play the game since waiting the next dlc season will take forever, what build should I go for? I'm tempted to try a psyker since it fits a tzeentch related plot.

This game would be infinitely more fun I I weren't assaulted by 10 billion popups the moment I dare click anything on the world map
>Esteemed Rogue Trader, the niggers from lower decks are staging a revolt (again)
>Esteemed Rogue Trader, Kibellah just murdered someone (again)
>Esteemed Rogue Trader, bdsm elf just murdered someone (again)
>Esteemed Rogue Trader, Argenta/Heinrix are mad about xenos on board (again)
>Esteemed Rogue Trader, one of your incompetent colonies literally cannot resolve a trivial matter unless you fly there personally (again)
>Esteemed Rogue Trader, we are attacked by the same 5 demons on the same 3 maps (again) (again) (again)
Just let me play the fucking game, PLEASE, I got places to be and galaxy to explore

>>713588468
>"You, soldier! Care to help a lone, exploited civilian save herself?" The red-haired woman hooks her arm through the soldier's resolutely."

>"I won't run off. I promise!" The red-haired woman hooks her arm through the soldier's resolutely. "It's so good to have someone who'll protect you and take you to safety..."

Huh. I've never seen her at the parade, even if I went to Minoris first. I could get that one fat bitch to show up if I execute the old man, but never oil girl. Do I need to absolute fuck up the hostage situation or something?

>>713582396
I always do Minoris, Philia, Eurac.
I don't care
>>713584479
A decent number of the viable perks are generic for everyone, like It Will Not Die.
You have a decent bit of build variety for Daring but everyone fits into a specific classification. Just don't try to make Melee Pasqal/Argenta or Ranged Kibellah/Heinrix and you should be fine.
You shouldn't try to multiclass weapon specialties too much.
>>713589070
Is it a new thing with Lex Imperialis? I'll do some testing and report back to one of these threads.

Is this game getting any DLC or anything or should i hold off on pirating

>>713590607
>I don't care
about Uve.

>>713590616
It got two so far, both added a new party member.

>>713590616
It just got one.

>>713584479
Im playing on daring and shit is easy as fuck, not really using a guide or anything, just picking what makes sense for the build im going.

>>713590665
Oil Girl or Uve. Who do you REALLY want to save?

>>713579996
doesn't matter, unless it has tentacles, more than 2 eyes or claws, then its time for purge

>>713579725 (OP)
Oh he's black. Guess I'll wait for 90% off to get this then.

>>713591616
poor timmy

>>713584479
Unless you are retarded or actively choose dogshit abilities, you'll probably accidently fall into a good build. Like the other anon said, just don't be a dumbass and go ranged ableard or melee argentina and you'll be fine.

>>713579725 (OP)
Every companion that isn't Argenta or Cassia to buff Argenta is just there for flavour anyway.

>>713579725 (OP)
>want to play with a couple of my buddies
>buy the dlc and host
>they join
>they need the new dlc to play
Wtf is this faggot shit? Most crpgs with co-op let one guy buy everything and host, but now everyone needs everything? Fuck off with that.

Im just hoping shotguns wont get shit later on in the game.

Idra: I felt I should tell you: I'm okay with you being trans. Also, the warp told me you were trans. I'm sorry you had to find out like this.

Cassia: I wished all of my servants a happy pride month and I think I accidentally turned most of them some form of queer.

Yrliet: Wears one of those bestiality flags invented by people who really aren't actually welcome in Pride and doesn't see the problem since that's basically what her people think she's doing and she's trying to show her appreciation for the captain. It is honest confusion on her part, but she blames any offense caused on mon-keigh being weird.

Argenta: It's not a hate crime if I do it for love of the Emperor.

Pasqual: Non-binary? That kind of heresy- oh, not that kind of non-binary. Yeah, a lot of techpriests don't respect the gender binary either, so I'm willing to help replace however much of your body with plasma cannons as you are willing.

>>713579725 (OP)
Is this game as autistic as their Pathfinder games?

>>713592784
Yes, more so in some ways

>>713592784
what do you think

>>713588727
That's just being a rogue trader, now just think about all the shit Abelard deals with so you won't have to

Any cool new items? Either in gameplay or looks? I only know about the combi flamer.

>>713590616
Two more have been announced.

>>713592840
Thanks
>>713592974
I think it's as autistic as the previous games, that's why I haven't bought it yet.

>>713590607
I looked through some older versions of the file. It's not new. Maybe it's just one of those things that technically exist in the game but you can't actually do.

>>713588283
I thought it was le satire of the most racist regime of all time bro

>>713592784
Depends on what type of autism. Less build autism and difficulty autism. Arguably too far as the game is very easy to break and breeze through even on unfair difficulty. No pre buffing too.

>>713592784
It still has the flag autism, where you get locked out of companions, quests, the true end, because you didn't pick up a rock in act 1.
Builds are far better though, no dips, generally straightforward about what you need, no getting punished because you didn't take the one skill that makes an entire act a breeze.

So Abelard was absolutely fucking Theodora, right?
>>713593494
It wouldn't surprise me. Maybe the intention was that the Private would've been like Lucky Jaspar or Raquel in that you could've saved him no matter what and got him a girlfriend if you went to Rykad Minoris first. Rogue Trader is one of the few games where I'm interested in knowing what got left behind on the cutting room floor and the different things that got changed in development.
>>713588283
My High Factotum hunted voidborn as a sport.
>>713593545
The problem is that the satirical parody of autocratic regimes quickly encounter the lore problem that autocracies/dictatorships usually form during a crisis that warrants their extreme action and because fiction has to be more plausible than history the narrative demands that justification.
Racism is really only a thing against mutants, who are literally not Human which was supposed to poke fun at phrenology and eugenics with something that isn't an equivalent in the slightest. This is even funnier when you realize that GW made space kikes with Genestealers which completely justifies the indiscriminate slaughter of genetic mutants.

So shotgun arbites isn't that good? I might just make a sniper build.

>>713594473
I mean, Arbiters origin does help a bit with shotguns, but you'd have to go all in on Soldier for it to shine

>>713579725 (OP)
Here are your roguetraders.

>>713594708
I'm tired of soldier. Never made my RT an Operative so I might try that.

Do we have the OST yet? Anything as cool as Voices of the Empyrean from Void Shadows?

Mfw dual wielding plasma pistols with Freedom and Vengeance.

>>713594329
There's an absolute massive dungeon that was linked to marzipan's quest in a frozen imperial planet, you can even enter it with cheats, hopefully they'll add it back someday or at least reuse the assets. Kinda bummed there's no rogue like mode this time around, it was to mess around with builds and mercs in wotr

>>713593545
When your enemies are Orks, Tyranids, Necron, Eldar and literal demons from hell, then the color of someone's skin stops mattering all that much.

Especially since there are human mutants like Ogryn, Ratlings (not-Hobbits), Nightsiders, Voidborn, etc. that are MUCH more extreme than that.

ESPECIALLY since humanity has spent like 15,000-20,000 years colonizing space now so of course even white colonists on a hot desert world would turn black after all that time (and vice versa if you had black colonists on a colder/more mild world).

So there are three types of Arbiter, but what kind of Arbiter is Solomorne?
I don't want to have any overlap

>>713582327
Wait this is how the combat looks like?
You move on grid tiles? Hahahaha wtf is this, chess?

>>713579996
Carl on Duty: Black Cops

>>713592784
Less than pathfinder, but it still has problems with visibility and generally user unfriendly designs. Honestly the skill selection is somehow even worse than in pathfinder, less readable

>>713582396
Doing Eurac first gives you +2 Profit Factor. What do you get for doing the others first?

fuck I just can't decide what to play

>>713579996
he's cool so he gets a pass

>>713596064
a sense of emotional satisfaction

>>713584962
because even if it is a buggy mess that barely runs its still a very good game

>>713593545

>>713584962
Feel free to make a thread about them lad. I prefer the rpgs although sm2 is pretty fun

ATTENTION CITIZEN

How buggy is the game now? I passed the game during release and haven’t touched it since. Got the season pass now

>>713579725 (OP)
What's the difference between pets? The bird and the skull are supports and the dog is dealing damage?

>Russian game
>with niggers
Non-buynary

I just finished the tutorial, playing as an Arbites. I'm curious if the class-specific gear like the big riot shields etc are found naturally in the game like other gear or you need to play the dlc to get them? I skipped the first DLC after having played base so no idea how they integrate this stuff.

>>713592416
>argenta
*kibellah

>>713598273
I can't remember if there was anything special in the first DLC that they added for those without it

>>713598273
I'm pretty sure they added some blood cult swords, they also generally added a bunch of new items in one of the updates

how tf do pirates get from system to system without a navigator

>>713598672
>Shut all windows
>Pray to the Emperor

>>713598672
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewf6HDtFUbw

>>713579996
White and black gang up on green and blue, simple as

>>713598672
They do have navigators?
Even chaos ships have navigators or sorcerers plowing through the warp.

>>713598672
Shallow jumps.

>>713582396
Eurac, Philia, Minoris

Left to right, simple as.

>>713599005
You know I kind of assumed Chaos would have it easy but I guess the warp bullshit doesn't discriminate.

>space cop DLC in RT
>space cop DLC in Darktide
>even Helldivers dropped a Judge Dredd warbond
What happened?

>>713579725 (OP)
Can you corrupt him?

>>713579725 (OP)
Are they fucking stupid? Nobody liked the DLC companion in WotR because it was some boring ass dude. Making waifu DLCs is free money.

>>713600578
With Helldivers it's a happy coincidence.
With 40k it's that GW's advertising cycle as finally caught up to the Arbites release from a while back, hence why both Darktide and RT shoved in the dog since that's part of the box.

>>713600817
There's more to CRPGs than romances you buffoon.

>>713600882
I'm just speaking from a business standpoint.

>>713600980
From a business standpoint they should make gacha casinos with tits for chinkcels but that's not what we're here for.

>>713600839
I actually have that box. Need to get around to assembling them

>>713600578
I fought the law but the law won.

>>713601089
No. That wouldn't be successful amongst their audience with this kind of game. Regardless, Ulbrig was a boring ass bitch and I'm sure this guy will be as well.

>>713584962
darktide fucking sucks and its on pair with WoW at the highest difficulties, its just trannies, autists, autist trannies cheating with a billion mods and addons

>>713600817
Ulbrig was the best selling DLC in wotr and considering he was like the fourth it's an incredibly good result
He is literally the reason they pivoted towards companion dlcs only

>>713579725 (OP)
Arbites origins is nice, gets some nice power up like armor piercing attack, shotgun hit that reduce dodge/parry, also for shooters you better pick arbites background rather than astra militarum

I'm debating enabling with toybox the option that lets all companions have dialogue even if not in your party
All of the companions fit my RT and of course it would make sense that someone as important as myself would have a big retinue with him.

On the other hand it feels like cheating to get all the content. I will play it again only once the second season pass is finished so I am not worried about "seeing all the content", but still feel a little bit dirty about it.

Does Solomon make fun of Yrliet too?

>>713603036
>he was the fourth
He was in fact the first proper DLC for the game. The gayass low level side story garbage they released that nobody ever asked for is not DLC for the game itself, and Treasures of the Midnight Isles is an unconnected couple of dungeons barely even worth mentioning.
The worst thing about the gayass low level side stories is that, unlike in Kingmaker, where it was at least a somewhat novel idea to get to see what your neighbour was doing while you were busy cleaning Kobold and Troll shit off your land, the WotR ones don't even deal with anyone you might have met or known about, but complete nobody randoms, who don't tie into the main story in any way whatsoever.

>>713603682
The point is that the longer a single player game goes on the less the DLCs are going to make
Ulbrig was a success, all things considered.

Kibellah was a success, and yesterday the game did 11k concurrent players so while it will do slightly less than Kibellah this one will also be a success.
People will replay the game if they have new companions, it turns out

>>713595228
Marzipan is probably still broken in general

>>713601558
>darktide fucking sucks
And water is wet
>>713603398
>I'm debating enabling with toybox the option that lets all companions have dialogue even if not in your party
You should.

>>713579725 (OP)
Shepard.

>>713603398
Honestly yeah it's pretty handy
I found it funny still listening to Marazhai even after I sent him off to the Inquisition, I pretended like my RT went a little mad from Commorragh so he still had a Deldar whispering awful things in his ear

>>713584962
But memedivers gets constant threads because it's a better game than sloptide and 40keks marine

>>713600817
>Nobody liked the DLC companion in WotR because it was some boring ass dude
Most successful WotR DLC AND it was the fourt one, that came out like two years after the game released
cope

>>713604563
That's a nice way to headcanon it away
But it also reminded me I probably will need to disable it before I get abducted to Commoragh

I hope this isn't true

>>713600404
>pirates
>chaos

>>713605372
When I put "how can I put down More Reactivity multiple times" in the survey I guess they took that personally

>>713579725 (OP)
Any download links for the DLC yet? I am absolutely not paying for it.

>>713605496
on csrin since forever

>>713598672
Most pirates operate in a single system
Those who operate on different systems either have captured a navigator or one willingly deserted the imperium
Or some I guess are insane madmen who just leeroy jenkins into the warp

>>713605372
I wish he had as much """reactivity""" as Kibellah, I'd have taken them both for the memes.
>enter room of important_NPC_man
>"Holy FUCK is that THE KIBELLAH-SAMA?!?!?!"
>immediately collapses in naked dogeza, his clothes disintegrating from sheer kneeling velocity
>"BY THE EMPEROR'S BALLSACK IS THAT AN AGENT OF HIS DIVINE TAX COLLECTING WILL?!?!"
>does somersault out of the window and falls off the building

>>713605668
I don't think this board could handle a black guy being sucked off like that

>negro instead of White
will be forgotten in a week

>>713605668
*Kibera-sama

Wait, it's Adeptus 'Ar-bee-tees'? All these years I was calling them Ar-bites

>>713598672
I never understood how pirates work in 40K, you need tens of thousands of dudes to run a ship and they're such complex vessels I don't know how you maintain them without official support from the Imperium

>>713601240
>tfw there's so many options you need at least 2 boxes to get a bit of everything

40kslop

Any fun builds besides Commisar support build?

>>713607091

>>713595768
anon, you move on grids in every single video game

This is so much better than the fucking pathfinder games
No prebuffing shit before encounters for one

Did the Heretic path ever become even semi-functional? Is it worth doing?

i love crpgs but dont know anything about warhammer. would this be a good jumping off point or would i be lost

>deny Abelard his retirement
>force him to bathe with you everyday
>deny him even his sacred purpose of tanking since you kill everything in a powerful alpha strike but keep him on the team anyways
Yep, it's Rogue Tradin' time

>>713599004
Jaysus kroist jackieboy

>>713608436
The game is technically intended to be newbie-friendly, but it throws so much lore your way from the start, you actually have to pay attention.
If you have an attention span of a hyperactive chihuahua, don't bother.

>Act 2 begins
>can't move one step without a loading screen and being sent back to the bridge for some inane event
>Yrliet doing it two times in a row
every time

>>713605668
Two or three figures react like that, but other than that, they inserted Kibellah really well.
I played this game with that dlc, but without any prior knowledge of rogue trader at all. And in my blind experience, there were only 2 points where Kibellah struck me as a dlc character; that being her introduction (visibly too rich for a vanilla character) and those few ooc reactions you mentioned.

If they had just toned down those reactions, she would have been implemented perfectly smoothly.

>>713608436
I think its a solid starting point. This game was my introduction to the 40K series and slowly learning about this universe as I played was an absolute great time

>>713608436
Jumping into Warhammer in general is a mistake, I'd say.
But yeah, it's probably the best way to get into 40k right now. You get to see more elements of the setting than in probably any other game until now and the game both highlights setting terms when they're introduced and pops out brief explanation when you hover over them. It's still real-ass fucking dense tho.

>>713605668
goth waifus deserve it

>>713608891
Almost every major NPC you meet is afraid of her

Okay maybe strategists are kinda good

>>713610057
>Shoots
>Penetrates the entire planet
>Enemy on the other side of the planet's moon dies from a crit

>>713579725 (OP)
Are cloud saves buggy with this game? I'm testing with 2 different devices, and cloud status is synced but both have decisively different save states. Weird

>>713608436
You're going to be fine. My only knowledge of WH40K is from Dawn of War 1-2 (and memes) and I'm having no problems with Rogue Trader.
>>713610262
Finally I get my BLAME! game adaptation

>>713608006
Don't bother

>>713608006
Save it for the Necron DLC

Void Shadows mogged this one really hard bros...

I'm like twenty or thirty hours away from meeting the new companion bros...

>>713603036
I liked Ulbrig doebeitever.

>>713611480
well sure Void Shadows was probably better than the base game itself

>>713608436
I was on the same boat as you and I greatly enjoyed the game and the setting. You can get a good grasp of the universe by the lore dumps ingame + some wiki reading.

>>713595228
>DLC III - The Infinite Museion
Next expansion's title sounds like something that might have a roguelite mode as a bonus feature.
However, I don't see any reasons to play one unless they manage to create actual, proper difficulty mode for it.

Just a headsup for any anons starting a new playthrough, in the prologue if you open the secret door to the Lord Captain's Quarters (After you get 4th party member) but you save and exit and reload, the door will still be gone but you will not be able to walk past through, it effectively becomes an invisible wall and your playthrough gets bricked. Couldn't find a way to noclip through with Toybox. Beware of this for Grimdark playthroughs where there's no backup saves

I like the cutscenes, quite a ways up from Kingmaker with its constantly repeating animations

>>713613173
>get his introductory cutscene like every companion does
>they usually join you immediately, or shortly afterwards
>but not this guy
Why

>>713608006
Heretic path is pretty much Devil mythic path of RT. If you're lucky, Owlcat will acknowledge it as a butt of all jokes and give it a bandaid update that doesn't actually fix anything in the final major update.

>>713613268
Because Overseer is a second tier archetype so he would break any semblance of difficulty if he joined early, unfortunately.

>>713613432
You already have your second tier archetype in Footfall though?

Psi Overseer doesn't dethrone the pyro executioner as far as broken bullshit goes, but it's far more fun to use
Telepath/Biomancer Overseer will overbuff the entire team, debuff the entire battlefield and then shit out endless highly damaging aoes.

Is Bolter + Flamethrower viable? If I recall correctly, "Burst" and "Area of Effect" were calculated differently. But its been many months so I don't remember exactly what the idiosyncrasies were

>>713614516
They are different yes

>>713614516
Only good bolter is the heavy bolter

I love this nigga like you guys wouldn't believe

>Unlock camera with toybox
>Camera position keeps defaulting high to the ceiling during battles and when initiating cutscenes
cant seem to figure out how to fix this shit

>>713614516
Basically you build argenta with that combo in mind

anyone got images of the twitch drop items? wanna see if its worth

Flamethrower is a meme weapon and should only be used for RP purposes. Bolter has superior area coverage and can be at any range.

>>713614912
ok I fixed this. In case anyone wants unlocked camera, just toggle everything on EXCEPT "Free Camera", that's the one that causes this issue

>>713615241

So from what I've read the raven pet lets you use psyker powers on your entire party right? For example, party wide haste. How does that work, is it an heroic action?

>>713579996
Needed a good black character

>>713617362
so what does the whistle actually do?

>>713619586
Idk I just started the game, looks like a joke item though. There's also a commissar head that makes sound when you click it but I can't make out what it's saying, or who it's supposed to be

>>713596928
ATTENTION BAJORAN WORKERS

>there will be a grand total of zero reactivity between a crime lord RT and Solomorne
I just know it

We need to talk about the elephant in the room that you can immediately come off like a complete homosex faggot in dialogue with him upon meeting him, no gradual buildup like with the other characters, just straight up faggotry right out the gate

>>713619005
You simply target the Raven with a psy buff and it will automatically spread it to all nearby allies (4 cell radius so pretty big area)
Which means Heinrix/Idira with Spirit Drape accessory can instantly buff the entire party with Forewarning, Prescience, Iron Arm, Warp Speed at the cost of a single AP, and they will be cast at +1 Psy Rating through a talent you can pick with Overseer
And the Raven will also make Perils of the Warp affect your enemies inside with another talent if they're inside the area, so Idira is legit the strongest character in the game now
You can also spread offensive Psy Powers but that requires the Overseer Heroic Action and is kinda useless though

>>713579725 (OP)
He's not pay-to-win waifubait. I don't know the bias is kinda staggering. Remember they marketed pets more than him.

>>713619959
>no gradual buildup like with the other characters

>>713619810
I'm rping a crime lord RT just for the reactivity...

>>713613173
what the, do arbites have ceramite armor? the autogun shots are bouncing off of them

>>713620007
His background is also nowhere near as strong as Bladedancer
Dunno why they stopped with the pay2win DLC classes that started with Wrath, after this bombs they'll probably quickly revert to it for the next DLC

>>713619959
you can act like a complete simp to Cassia literally 1m after meeting her

>>713620123
I doubt its going to bomb

>>713620123
>after this bombs
lmao you wish

>>713595360
Good thing human ethnicities have not much to do with skin color.

>>713580171
Mixed and bisexual? Anon's worst fears

Are there any heavy weapons that are like snipers, basically being one damaging shot, pretty sure the only ones I've seen are heavy bolters

Is pyro warrior/executioner still busted? I'm not feeling the new class

>>713619973
Nice, guess Heinrix is on buffslut duty this time

>>713620294
>>713620196
I doubt it will sell as well as Voidshadows though
Void has 2 new classes, Kibellah joins extremely early, and has more reactivity than Solomorne + is a hot goth girl
Her unique additions are also stronger gameplay wise AND the quests are more interesting, although the one with Solomorne on the feudal world where you get forcebly bodyswapped into a young maiden is fun and different atmosphere wise than most of the game
It also doesn't help they locked Solomorne behind 20h+ if starting a new run AND you need both a ship combat + boss battle and solo battle with his squad to recruit him while Kibellah just presents herself to you

I'm going shotgun+shield Arbites. Looks like Shotgun wants area of effect traits. Any suggestions on the 2nd weapon loadout? I'm thinking Bolter for burst, but I'm not sure..

>>713620541
I didn't say it would, the first DLCs are always the ones that sell the most because the more time passes, the more people lose interest, and this is something Starrok acknowledged
The only exception is The Last Sarkorians and that was because of just how fucking garbage WotR's first 3 DLCs were

>>713620541
>Kibblesfags
As long as there's a companion, it sells well. Thats why they announced 2 future ones already.

>>713620680
soldier > arch militant, your free shield attacks gives you versatility and allows you to chain shotgun attacks, get the slug ability that allows you to shoot the shotgun twice as a single shot to also stack versatility, end you turn by blocking whatever is still alive ( usually nothing on hard)

>>713620680
Shield is a bit useless
Ideally you want to dual wield 2h shotguns with the new Arbiter talent
You can however get a shield + something then have the other slot be 2x 2h shotguns and just switch to shield once you finish your actions

>>713620687
Last Sarkorians also added a bunch of busted subclasses like Inciter

>>713621139
btw get reckless rush and all-out as soon as possible, so your attacks don't eat all of your MP
>>713621172
dual shotguns is bait, the reason to one hand it is for the shield, you get more than enough attacks as is as a arch militant

>>713621431
Master Tact is vastly better for damage and heroic action spammage than Virgin Militant
And Shotgun dual wield is great since they now cost 1 AP only for firing

>1-5
Shotgun Arbites
>6-0
pyro executioner

>>713600404
Absolutely, if unaffiliated daemons don't get you then a rival gods' will.

>>713621139
>>713621172
Oooh, I'm looking at the Arch-Militant tree now and it looks tempting. I really wanted to make my Rogue Trader an Overseer for this playthrough.. I wonder if any of the other companions synergize well with Overseer. I don't want to use the new lad though so I'll have to decide if RP is more important to me than efficiency. Thanks for the advice

>>713605668
KIBELLAH-SAMA posts always bring a smile to my face

>>713621287
I mean yeah sure, but I doubt anyone cared about that, the main reason why people bought it was simple, because it added more content to the main story, which is exactly what people had been asking for but they refused to do for some reason

>>713605372
>Your welcome husbandofags.

>>713621585
cassia can give resolve buffs and voice of command to the whole party, grand strategist is the most broken one but i usually prefer fun > broken. servo skull to AoE operative and officer abilities and the psy raven for idira. pasqual can also use the eagle really well.

>>713579725 (OP)
stop giving me niggers amd let me recruit or romance this slut as chaos reeeee

>>713614849
Pasqal and Opticon are the realest niggas.

>>713622075
She probably flirts with him if you bring him to Janus

>>713591616
You were never going to buy it in the first place

>>713622151
she already fucks dogs so it doesn't matter.

>>713621585
>Overseer
Just go Pyro Psyker Officer Overseer with Skull Swarm, later Sanctic
This way you can spread all good Officer buffs like Voice of Command + Air of Authority and still retain the ability of dealing great damage through Ignire early and as soon as Act 2 beginst he Sanctified Staff for the best AoE in the game, without having to bother about hit chance%
Overseer is wasted on a 2x Shotgun char which is far better as Arch Militant or Master Tactician

>>713622220
Actually yeah you're right, she'll flirt with his dog

>>713622267
which is her right as a degenerate slaaneshi. I fucking hate how owlcat always half assess other paths/classes in their games. fucking bunch of hacks

>Pathfinder pets
>dinosaur, mammoth, smilodon, tiger etc.
>RT pets
>dog and uh...birds???
And don't give me nonsense about lore, the game itself has a new area where they show domesticated cyber Lanceraxes etc.

>>713579996
Because the Imperium was always black and there were always female marines.

>>713588283
>grimdark
>muties are enslaved on a whim
>entire worlds exterminatus'd because an insane person decided one day dropping a bomb would be funny
>slaanesh rapes souls for eternity
>mon'keigh
>"Um, racism isn't allowed brah, that's cringe"

>>713595360
>it's a fight for SURVIVAL
>why would it matter if half of the setting is now black? SURVIVAL matters!
Anon, it used to be 100% British.
>there are much more extreme races
Then why did they pick Africans and not those races? Why isn't the entire cast of the game Chinese? Why aren't half the primarchs African? Why aren't any of the primarchs African? Why are they almost exclusively one of the least populous races on planet Earth?
>melanin is based on temperature
lol, lmao

What's the lore reason for the Imperium loathing xenos?
It seems retarded that you would willingly antagonize EVERY single alien species as dogma including ones that aren't hostile towards mankind, especially since Warp and Daemon fuckery is threatening to consume EVERYTHING

>>713622090
>Remember Eufrates II

>>713622703
The fact that they are all extremely hostile and dangerous. I quite like it personally, it's the Dark Forest theory in action

>>713622418
Its just like the aliens you could recruit but they chose boring options.

>>713622075
if you romance her she comes with the handmaid as a package deal

>>713622703
All xenos are dangerous as fuck
40k is not fucking star trek or star wars

>>713622703
All the non-hostile ones were driven to extinction in the Great Crusade. The early Imperium was still 100% devoted to pure xenocide and unlike now they had the resources to actually do it. The only ones left are the ones too violent, widespread, or elusive to totally wipe out.

>>713622075
>can literally fix her
>she fucking dies
OWLCAAAAAAAAAAAAT

>>713579996
It's the Imperium of Man, all of humanity is needed for the endless meatgrinder against the Alien, Mutant and Heretic

>>713622703
drukhari poisoned the well

>>713622959
>if you romance her she comes with the handmaid as a package deal
they could have done so much more for the chaos route. like pledging yourself to a single god for bonuses and unique companions or dialogue. like siding with slaanesh gives you the dog fucker and her maiden and turns your ship into a drug fueled murder orgy ala event horizon but that's asking for too much from owlcat. even the "developed" paths like iconoclast felt kind of empty

>>713622703
Check the tabletop alliance rules and you'll find most xenos factions, when paired with those not of their own kind, are "Come the apocalypse".
>yeah but warp
That's the apocalypse. Not everywhere is the apocalypse. Most of the time the warp doesn't affect you personally. Not all of the imperium is loyal or is "loyal", even in the face of daemonic incursion. Everyone has their own motives and needs.

The closest to a hive mind you can get in 40K are the Necrons, because their people are 99% braindead, and instead of helping the imperium against chaos they choose to attack both despite being capable of diplomacy and a sworn enemy of chaos. Tyranids are mindless animals.

>>713623112
>the wife of the noble house that betrays you specializes in servitors
>can't have her turned into a servitor for a delicious ironic punishment
>she gets a shitty generic decapitation execution instead
there's tons of shit like this that they could have put in. it pisses me off that the game came out so half baked.

>>713619959
That small interview where the "kroot mercenary" quote came from took too many faggot lives, so they had to throw them a bone. Hence, gay nigger from outer space.

>>713620076
Arbites have always had full suits of Carapace Armour as standard.

>>713623029
>watch star trek and star wars
>all xenos are incredibly dangerous, live on untamed worlds with giant monsters that put dune's worms to shame, and 1 in 10 species are literal galaxy ending threats with their basic biology
>the heroes often cut down these threats with no remorse and sometimes to the point of extinction
>"Yeah the whole point about Star Wars and Star Trek is hope, friendship and being woke"

>>713623297
>tabletop alliance rules
Have been not a thing for like 10 years now and even then they were retardedly over-broad.

The new arbites companion is gay or bi?

>>713623029
And this is what I love about 40K. It's as close to the Dark Forest as the 3 Body Problem series which is peak science fiction kino, but lots of interesting lore to create a compelling universe to justify the insanity of it all.

The setting makes no sense.
Why are there no good/benevolent manifestations of the Warp?
Humans spend their lives experiencing much more positive than negative emotions, otherwise they'd all be perma depressed and kill themselves.
No one wants to live in constant fear and insecurity and that's what usually fractures the human psyche above everything else

>>713623659
Yes but they're from the time when the lore was less retarded and could actually answer anon's question.

Is it me or did Toybox lose the option to disable fog of war?

>>713623462
Isn't it Gaprak that specializes in servitors, not Saurback?

>>713623743
>Humans spend their lives experiencing much more positive than negative emotions
Tell that to the rabble

>>713623743
>Humans spend their lives experiencing much more positive than negative emotions
Have you seen how people in the lower decks live?

>>713623703
All DLC companions are bi

>>713623743
Because its a dumb grimdark setting, that used to be the joke before the writing and the company went to shit

>>713623651
Humankind and most alien species are usually well integrated into a greater galactic society in both ST and SW

>>713623743
The eldar had positive emotions.
You could say in excess.
It didn't work out for them.

>>713579996
Imperium has never cared about what race of human you are, all that matters is you're not a filthy mutie, xenos or heretic.

>>713624058
The key term here is "in excess"

>>713623462
I'm more angry about the fact that they don't even try to finish baking it, especially after such a disastrous launch.

>>713623743
Lorechads correct me if I'm wrong, but the Warp is literally a chaotic evil demonic entity - it makes less sense for there to be good/benevolent manifestations of it. Psykers do channel the Warp to pull off those mystic feats for the good of the Imperium, but its not seen or considered as good/benevolent because you're still channeling a dark unknown force to pull those things off and its never stable, they're always putting themselves and others near them in danger. Hence, why they are sanctioned

>>713623743
>Humans spend their lives experiencing much more positive than negative emotions
Not in the Imperium
>otherwise they'd all be perma depressed and kill themselves.
Yep, that's life in the Imperium. The staple food in cities is the reprocessed bodies of your dead fellows, usually dead from industrial accidents.
>No one wants to live in constant fear and insecurity and that's what usually fractures the human psyche above everything else
Yep, yep, and yep. Which is why the average Imperial IS batshit insane as a baseline.

>>713624143
They never do. Pumping out DLC is easier, since they can charge for that. Fixing the existing game would be admitting it came out half baked, and they can't justify charging for it.

>>713623743
It's not supposed to make sense as a setting, anyone taking it seriously is a wanker.

>>713624346
>anyone taking it seriously is a wanker.
You mean the modern writers?

>>713623743
>Why are there no good/benevolent manifestations of the Warp?
check out the tau goddess of the greater good. she's a big titty 6 armed benevolent tau goddess that got formed since the tau kept on recruiting humans.

>>713624346
>anyone taking it seriously is a wanker.
Most of the fans. I don't know how, everything is so dumb.

>>713624058
Slaanesh wasn't created from hope, love, compassion, courage or kindness, though. That other anon is right that the setting makes no sense, if Warp entities are created through emotion there should be good aligned Warp deities just as powerful if not moreso than the four Chaos Gods. But they just don't, with no real explanation as to why. 40K is grim and dark because the writers say it is, and just like any badly written setting, it has no actual internal logic or consistency and utterly falls apart the moment you think about how anything works for more than two seconds. It's just there to sell plastic toys, anyways, so it's not surprising it's so badly done.

>>713582982
So am I making Pasqal and Idira Overseers now?


Cassia is a forever take, I need to use the Death cultist and the Judge for all my team comps (except with forced guest characters like Heinrix) since I last played before the DLC drop. At this point in time what class/origin should I pick to not feel irrelevent?

>>713624560
The warp used to be calm and benevolent. Then the War in Heaven happened, and the quintillions of screaming souls that died violently flooded it and turned it evil. Now, any warp essence that isn't evil and daemonic is swiftly torn apart and devoured by said daemons.

>>713623743
>No one wants to live in constant fear and insecurity and that's what usually fractures the human psyche above everything else
guilliman has stated as much and is doing his best to fix shit. there's no incentive for the downtrodden humans to refuse chaos because why would some poor bastard that was already suffering refuse offers of power? the imperium would unironically steam roll practically everyone if they weren't so needlessly inefficient and oppressive to their citizens.

>>713588247
I found that the original Unfair difficulty was fine except for Yrliet's recruitment world and the late game Space Marine spam world.
But I didn't abuse officers back when they were OP.

>>713622090
>>713614849
Abelard and Pasqal were my bros at my side when I finally officially became the Rogue Trader of my dinasty.

Did they fix Vanguard? I really want to make Abelard a tank. I was going to make him an Arch-MIlitant, but now I want my Rogue Trader to be an Arbites Arch-Militant and I don't want dupe 2nd tier archetypes in my party.

>>713624516
>Most of the fans. I don't know how, everything is so dumb.
to be fair it's mostly the imperium fans and especially the marine fans that are retarded. they constitute 95% of the fanbase stupidity.

>>713624271
>tfw no sororitas harem

>>713624346
It's okay anon, there's still the normie sci-fi that you can relate to like Star Wars for brainlets like you

>>713587667
>Do Eurac until the lift to Cassia, then go to the prison, then go back to Eurac.
Why stop there? Does it essentially let you get the ideal (no time passed) states for both zones?

>>713624790
Vanguard has always been obscenely powerful, anon.
Malpian Shroud + Invigorating Resolve + Beacon of Might + Chainsaw and Abelard is not only impervious but also dealing 1K+ damage per single attack even as early as Act 2 with 300+ STR

I hope the new party members in the next season pass expansions are more interesting.

The ones we've gotten so far are more likely retinue members for a Puritan Inquisitor rather than a Rogue Trader

>>713624790
No they didn't

>>713624710
there’s also a bunch of insane golden warp entities within the beam of light projected through the warp by the astronomicon, who destroy any non-golden entities they come across. these are probably the things that sisters of battle and other faithful are able to sometimes summon or make perform ‘miracles’ for them

>>713624858
Trve!!!

>>713624041
>Vulcans are animals who send their children into the wasteland to become adults and need to kill (or have sex) every few years not to die
>Romulans were Vulcans who were genocided (displaced) and they're not very nice people
>>>Klingons
>the Q
>the Borg
>Cardassians have a game show where everyone's guilty
>of the two positronic androids in existence, synthetic life, one of them is a psychotic monster
>ferengi are legally distinct from slavers
>multiple genocidal races that only show up for the sake of the plot (Data had to evacuate a human colony all by himself once)
>the Orion syndicate
Captain Kirk met literal gods who used him as a plaything and only at the end of the episode would they say "It was all a test! You passed!" or he would only escape because he destroyed the source of their power. I'll let you figure out which is a scarier in your opinion.

I am less familiar with Star Wars but you pick 2 from this list when visiting any planet:
>evil magicians/witches/wizards/sorcerers
>monsters
>tribals who can go toe-to-toe with modern armies
>pirates/Hutts/smugglers/bounty hunters/scum/villainy
>bigger monsters
>galaxy ending robots
>galaxy ending plague
>galaxy ending species
>a cosmopolitan menagerie of every "civilised" species in the galaxy, perpetually pissed off, underpaid and eyeing your wallet, and half of them are wanted men with the death penalty on five systems

>>713624630
Does it really matter? The games combat is a joke and falls apart mid act 2 at the latest, and Kibellah alone can solo the game. If you want a meta build just roll Psyker Pyro Soldier into Executioner.

>>713624560
>It's just there to sell plastic toys
And so is Star Wars and its setting doesn't make sense.
If you have a problem with writers not writing reality, you don't like any fiction.

>>713623743
>Why are there no good/benevolent manifestations of the Warp?
There are but they still get rolled into the big 4. So Nurgle is a loving grandpa, khorne is honorable and Tzeentch is the god of hope

>>713625503
heretical propaganda

>>713625275
Dude the Imperium of man is actively xenocidal. It's the polar opposite of the federation.

>>713624983
You know what, fuck it. I'll make Abelard a Vanguard. If it doesn't work out, I can swap him out for another companion. I usually prefer to play this game without planning builds in advance and just taking it step by step, level by level. Makes my Grimdark playthrough all the more enjoyable.

>>713622075
>chaosfag
die!

Nobody in this thread made an Operative Rogue Trader and completed their playthrough to the end of the game.

>>713625395
>But what about
I accept your concession.

>>713623743
Because the warp was fucked up during the war in heaven between the Necron and The old ones. It wasn't evil before that.

>>713626626
the Imperium would genocide cat girls if they existed

>>713626491
Most of the Vanguard talents are whatever tier, but if you get the Malpian Shroud from Foulstone 1st event, and the Beacon of Might Vanguard Talent + a Chainsaw weapon there's no way you can die, especially if Cassia at least is a Grand Strat, ideally Pasqal as well

I'm just in the tutorial but Soldier Arbites is already so fun, I just noticed that shotgun pushes enemies back so with Run & Gun, I'm just pushing around the boss like its a toy

>>713626980
Power maul can push enemies too, so sword and board arbites is the same experience. I don't know if I can make a proper DPS out of it but I'm going to try.

>>713626941
Surely they would be useful for encouraging breeding

>>713626941
You need to take a look at the planet Carlos McConnell

>>713626941
Wrong.

Catgirls exist and are Sanctioned Abhumans, like Ogryns or Ratlings.

what would she have thought of her more schizo sons like curze?

>>713624190
The warp itself is neutral just another dimension that churns souls into energy after people die and gets affected by emotions. Think of it like an ocean with the demons and other entities being the fish that in this case were spawned from too much emotion.

Has anyone tried Operative/Executioner Pyro? The Executioner ulti + ignite seems like it would be good for procing tons of tide of excellence stacks.

Just finished the dlc. Compared to VS, definitely sucks ass. I didn't expect much, but I'm still disappointed.

>>713626941
Felinids exist and are sanctioned Abhumans. Even the Imperium understands the value of catgirls.

>>713627357
It has a feudal world, so it's kino in my book.

>>713627357
Tide of Excelence seems capped out at +4 with Inflame
You also don't get the Exploit % bonus during it
t. just tested it 2 days ago
Operative is definitely good for Ignite + Inferno though

>>713627631
Is there any other DLC quest post the feudal planet one in Act 2? Seems shorter than Void so far

>>713627357
anything executioner pyro is op, they did nerf DoTs in this patch but it's still not enough

>>713627631
They did say it was going to have less content

>>713627929
>Is there any other DLC quest post the feudal planet one in Act 2? Seems shorter than Void so far
Yeah. The last bit of content gets unlocked right after Quetza Temer's stuff. But don't expect much.

>>713627952
Unfortunately, it's a lot 'less' content. I have a suspicious they decided to split the content for the next season pass, aka decided to release short, low quality shitty quests no one asked six times in a row. I'm not sure what the fuck is wrong with owlcats really, VS was straight up great. Lex is all over the place. Eight or so months for this is ridiculous, they have no "the game is fundamentally broken and needs massive patches" excuse anymore - like they justified VS's delay. I fear everyone's been moved to DH.

>>713627631
Sucks but the biggest selling point for me is having at least some degree of new content to warrant a new playthrough

Given the context of the DLC I wasn't expecting him to show up so early. I doubt it will change much in Rykad minoris but hey that's cool

>>713622703
just the grimderp nature of the setting

Why did they remove the option to flirt inappropriately with Cassia here?

>>713628770
Yeah these russian conartists are probably going to strip a bunch of content that was planned for RT and just slap it into the next rpg instead.

>>713624560
>. It's just there to sell plastic toys
Well, actually, yes.

>>713629308
Nevermind that comes later kek

>>713625503

>>713628770
Prease buy our season pass!

>>713620123
Don't think it will bomb hell if anything it surprises me how well the game is doing. Constantly keeping up above 1k in charts and after the dark heresy announcement it got a bit of a bump. Also the game is made in unity. It's just change for them if they sell the game.

>>713598672
Sorcery. Sorcerers (chaos bait) can do warp navigation by sacrificing people.

>>713628770
So it's that much shorter? That is disappointing. Void Shadows was so excellent I expected this to be of the same quality, unfortunate that it's not the case.

>>713610057
How?

Does the Commorragh cargo trick still work?

>>713622703
Because almost every major xenos in 40k are some flavor of omnicidal maniac who can't be reasoned with. Only craftworld eldar and tau are somewhat reasonable but the latter are small fry weeablues who want to conquer everything and force all humans to binge watch anime, and the former are arrogant jobbers who will smugly manipulate you into doing what they want and yet still end up dying horribly because gav thorpe.

>>713623743
There are
Really there is a line in which you could obey the forces of chaos and warp and still be yourself. The Valencious dynasty is a good example of that. When you enter their crypt you can see just how much they have dwell in heresy that even Hendrix is fucking perplexed. That being said once you pass that threshold it's clear they are just the big bad.

>>713628770
>I fear everyone's been moved to DH.
I'm willing to bet even DH is getting shafted in favor of their normalfag Expanse game. But yes, it's clear they made their money off of RT and moved on already. That's why every DLC take nearly a year to make. Now be a good boy, pre-order Dark Heresy and don't complain when it's broken unfinished shit like Rogue Trader on release.

>>713619959
Nigga, Cassia will try to tongue fuck you in a forced cutscene immediately after you recruit her.

>>713630793
She doesn't

>>713630682
I did
I am excited, I like solving crimes.

>>713615154
Uh no, you build Argenta for Heavy Bolters.

>>713621498
Is PC Officer still any good? Or do I need to take the two officer companions?

>>713630793
there's at least courtship Lords and Ladies type shit where you have to act like a noble to show her you're interested and willing to pursue the romance, with the Arbite nigga you just come off like a flaming homo all the time right out the gate

>>713631146
PC Officer is as strong as ever. You are not required to take the whore anywhere.

>>713630682
I feel like they should have made DH first, for the sheer fact that RT makes you feel more like an Inquisitor with your retinue than it does an actual RT, though I guess over the decades RT Inquisitors and Commissars all kind of blended together as swashbuckling adventurers with their bands of merry men in the lore

>>713583637
I don't like women.

>>713625369
I just don't know how much the combat has changed since they rebalanced everything. I want something fun more than I want something OP.

>>713584479
This is one of those games with hundreds of perks and skills and abilities and 90% of them are garbage.

>>713632002
That is every RPG.

>>713632046
Not the case in BG1, 2, or 3.

>>713630843
High Cassia how are-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58efHEM3rSo
o-oh...? we're doing this now?


LITERALLY a forced cutscene after you recruit her.

>>713632046
That is absolutely false, it's a specific problem with games made by slavs, they always add a ton of jank into character building, which doesn't make it "deep", it just makes it clunky garbage because they never bother to streamline anything.

>>713632208
That song doesn't even play. She's not the one to start things, you are if you flirt with her

I think there was supposed to be a patch that adds more dialogue for Kibellah. Has it been implemented yet?

>>713584479
Its not very important at all. It's there for those that love it. You can play through the game perfectly fine by just taking the recommended stuff.

>>713631252
Feels like the majority of Origins are kind of irrelevant for officers. Commissars get the onetime action reuse on kill, and Nobles can super buff one proxy but on the whole it feels like the officer abilities themselves are usually better picks.

>>713632159
>BG3
90% of them are garbage
Sharpshooter & the one for 2H, Tavern Brawler & Alert are obscenely better than anything else and most are trash like Extra Cantrip or whatever
There's nothing to pick in BG1&2 outside of weapon specs and later HLAs

>>713632208
Yeah she introduces herself and you recap the events of her recruitment, at what point is she trying to, as you claimed, "tongue fuck you"? Her romance is slow burn, you have to do the entire courtship process and if you show too much sexual interest before doing so, the romance will fail. Absolutely the opposite of your claim.

>>713632245
>games made by slavs
Neither RT nor Pathfinder/3.5 were made by slavs. Both are chock full of """choices""" that amount to complete dogshit.
>>713632159
Yes the case, in every RPG. Baldur's Gate 3 in particular has a ton of dead feats, abilities and spells.

>>713632371
I'm mostly joking about the fact that everyone thought that this event popping so early was a glitch. Lighten up anon.
I'm sure Solomone's romance start dialogue is much more egregious.

>>713632314
There should be a patch that adds more dialogue to Argenta.

>>713632348
Sanctic Psyker bro. Strongest support in the game + giganukes on command come act 2.

>>713632510
>I'm mostly joking about the fact that everyone thought that this event popping so early was a glitch
Because Cassia is the first romanceable companion you get for most people so she's the first one that shows romance in this game can be started almost immediately, the other romances are the same, you flirt with them once you're on the bridge and the instant you do that you can already talk about your relationship and even break up, even though you haven't done anything yet

>>713632348
Psyker just saves all your damage issues + also provides more buffing.
Navy can be good in Act 1 on a mercwith high AGI for Brace for Impact + Move boosting talent to act first before you get access to Grand Strategist and have Cassia destroy everything as early as possible + buff her Willpower to the max
But yes it's all trash compared to Psyker

I can't believe they STILL don't let you respec companions from level 2+
>literally every Officer talent Jae has is worthless
>Solomorne picks a lot of useless defensive stuff and is locked at your level when you recruit him
>Ulfar being locked at 30+

>>713632516
I started playing in December, read about her getting more flavor and put the game down. I don't really replay these really long rpgs, so I don't like additional content getting drip fed over multiple years.
I already stopped for the same reason at launch, because I read about game breaking bugs and I'm only starting over one more time, since I never made it past act 2

>>713632986
They probably figure players are just gonna toybox it anyway and don't bother.
Also is Solomorne actually locked to the level you are when you recruit him? That would be the dumbest fucking shit I ever heard.

>>713633120
Yes, which means if you recruit him during Act 4 you literally have almost zero customization over him
At least they have the common sense of making Kibellah start at 4

>>713620412
Of being both or meeting someone that is?

>>713633225
>get the nigga super late to begin with
>can't even level him up properly to make him useful, just like the other brown character in the game
Owlcat's not beating the racism allegations is it.

>>713633270
Yes

I don't get how to build Heinrix. In every run, I've tried, but he just sort of falls off or becomes a worse Abelard. Any tips from knowledgeable anons?

>>713633642
Then I must be the boogeyman

>>713633724
Just go Executioner.

D&D Feats got knocked for how crummy they are. bg3 is true to source. Except for a few homebrewed op Feats that Larian made up

Was really fun playing through with my girlfriend, we maxed out the difficulty eventually because the game was too easy, even though we had no experience with the system and didn't look up guides or anything. It feels like players get too many tools to make everything trivial.

>>713632439
>Neither RT nor Pathfinder were made by slavs
Russians are slavs, the only people who deny this are Russians themselves.

>>713632809
>But yes it's all trash compared to Psyker
Shame, I don't exactly care ofr the origin outfit. Anyone have the files for toybox and such? I hate going through nexus.

>>713634082
And neither RT nor Pathfinder were created by Russians. Both are filled with 95% filler feats/abilities that are complete dogshit.
Just take the L at this point.

>>713634074
>playing through with my girlfriend
Uh-huh

>>713634176
I might be crazy, but i believe the first dlc replaces your default outfit

>>713634391
Hey, I'm anon's girlfriend's boyfriend and I can confirm they play RT together after she's done having sex with me.

>>713632348
How is castigator arbites for officer

>>713634558
No idea, that's why I was asking for anon's opinions on officer after DLC/Rebalance. I am the exact wrong person to ask because I only played on RT release.

My uncle works for Owlcat and said we're getting Argenta romance in DLC 3 or 4

>>713579725 (OP)
I'm so fucking sick and tired of niggers in my computer roleplaying games
>>713579996
because Owlcat are a bunch gay cucks that had their minds broken by american (jewish) media

>>713579725 (OP)
Why does he look like Black Commander Shepard?

>>713633473
>just like the other brown character in the game
But Idira is literally the strongest character in the game, potentially even stronger than the main character

>>713633724
Overseer with Raven Pet, ignore all Warrior Powers, instead rush for Divination for Forewarning > Enfeeble > Warp Speed > Prescience, then give her Spirit Drape Talisman from Janus 3rd event and have him mass buff the entire party in turn 1 at the cost of a single AP, then go to town with Veilrender Force Sword + the Raven gear that makes Veil start at +5

>>713634795
I legit forgot about Idira also being brown lmao. I was of course talking about Jae.

>>713634694
I want an Ork party member for one of those dlc.
It was a potential character choice in the PnP game.

There's no browns or blacks in my 40K, I'm using AI sloppa portrait replacements

>>713634987
Don't be such a faggot all your life anon

drop Ember into the Imperium and watch it become a more tolerant place in a few years

>>713635102
I can't believe they were woke back then!?!

>>713634228
We're specifically talking about the CRPGs you pedantic faggot, the TT games being bullshit does not excuse the CRPG developers in any way shape or form. They could've easily looked through the feats and options, cut out all the superfluous garbage, and actually had good character progression systems if they weren't lazy fuckwits.

>>713635110
>drop Ember into the warp
>shit bricks

>>713592784
It's autistic but in a more shortrange way than the gorillions of builds you can have in pathfinder.

give me a fun build for my RT

>>713635617
soldier with lasgun

reminder

Will it reach 12k this weekend?

>>713635781
This seems like a fetish thing

>>713635781
thank you for reminding me about horses. they are cool.

>>713632371
Cassia does come at you pretty hard, just in a "noble lady" sort of way. She will sneak a book into your study on how to romance her properly

How much of the techpriest's language is made up and how much translates to actual computing terms, some of the stuff they say makes sense but then others go over my head, Motive Force is electricity at least right

>>713633120
toybox still doesn't let you do a full respec, though. You can't change their class (or yours)

I honestly don't respect anyone who lets Marazhai onto their ship, unless they're going full heretical. There's simply no reason a dogmatic or even iconoclast would let that sick fuck live.

>>713636196
a lot of it is pure nonsense from a writing stance, but it's the kind of thing where if you get a feeling of what they're saying, that's good enough. techpriests are supposed to be kind of incomprehensible when they aren't being completely literal, and all of their knowledge is both secretive and pushed through a filter of religious belief when they choose to say it.
you're kind of supposed to say "alright whatever, cogboy"

>>713636439
idk some of his ideas lowkey kinda make sense

>>713636439
>unless they're going full heretical
Heretical RT kills people for looking at him funny

>>713631167
>there's at least courtship Lords and Ladies type
That's what you need to do to actually romance her, but you're still immediately given the option to ask for sex as sleazily as possible.

>>713635905
reminded me of that weird horse dragon with huge udders drawn by r-mk

>>713636439
but you don't get it he's the cooler eldar

>>713636760
I don't know what you mean but I've seen plenty of horse dragons in my time

>>713636760
what, steeds of slaanesh?

>>713636439
I cannot see why a Heretic would take Marazhai either, though. He's a fun character but Owlcat did not really give a compelling reason to take him onto your team and about a hundred reasons to kill him instead, so he only gets brought along if you're metagaming and simply want to see as much content as possible.

>>713635781
sometimes the knowledge is simply inherent

>>713636860
>>713636439
They should have just given the player a single Eldar Corsair retinue member and made the 2nd Xenos recruit something else. Either an ork or a kroot.

>>713636858
no, just some sick furry(feral?) OC which unfortunately makes me rock hard

>>713636860
Iconoclast desperate for allies is acceptable in that circumstance.
Heretic if they wanted to bully him into being a slut for Slaanesh, sure.
Dogma blams.

Advice for a sniper MC?

>>713636458
Are machine spirits real or is it just the priests not understanding how a computer works

>>713636439
Like I need respect of a anon. The justification is I like him and im having sex with him

>>713637297
> The justification is I like him and im having sex with him
Disgusting

>>713593545
The Imperium is one of the least racist factions in ever because they are one of the most Xenophobic factions ever. They're united in hatred of far greater threats. The color of ones skin doesn't seem too important when you've colonized thousands of worlds and you have half a dozen potential apocalyptic threats ready to end your whole world at any given moment.

>>713635809
They should've released this on a Friday if they wanted impressive Steam numbers, they should know that only people at the age of employment plays these kinds of games

>>713622703
>What's the lore reason for the Imperium loathing xenos?
Pretty much all the main races want to kill each other, it's not exclusive to the Imperium.

But also when the Eldar kicked shit off by birthing Slaanesh and turning the Warp into a near-untraversable super-shithole it disconnected all of humanity when it was in the middle of its technological golden age and left basically all human colonies in the dark. The majority of those colonies then got murderapeslaved by opportunistic xenos.

Then Emps popped up, united Terra, convinced humanity that everyone non-Human is an enemy and at fault for everything bad in the universe, and led humanity on a crusade to recover the murderapeslaved colonies. That naturally included deleting any xenos in the way and Emps stocked the HFY seethe so hard that any benign xeno civs in the galaxy pretty much got wiped out as collateral.

>>713636439
I let him on my ship so I can hand him over to the Inquisition

>>713637287
they are, and they aren't
there's both a lot of evidence they totally are real without a doubt but also that the mechanicus is full of shit. it has to do with how much knowledge is lost but also how subtle the dark age tech is. some "machine spirits" are clearly just ai but the mechanicus doesn't recognize it as such, some are just feelings you get about your equipment like if your gun seems to jam more than it should then the "spirit" is angry.
you gotta understand mechanicus spirituality is one of the least explained things in the setting, the machine god might be real, maybe, machine spirits might be real, maybe. maybe the entire mechanicus are schizos, maybe the spirits actually need to be appeased, who knows. the truth is whatever you find the most fun to imagine about them at least until gw gives some solid explanation or something

>>713637140
I would argue Iconoclast is the most likely of all the convictions to kill him, Iconoclast is supposed to be the conviction that truly cares about his people and his demesne, and Marazhai led the raids that enslaved and killed hundreds of thousands, if not millions of them. And then there's what he does if you actually do recruit him onto your ship. Iconoclast would kill him every time without question.

>there are iconokeks reading and posting in this thread
lol
lmao

>>713627191
I'm not sure what she would have thought of him but he would have definitely tried to kill her for fucking him up. Everything he hates about the Emperor goes tenfold for her, she really was fucking atrocious.

nevermind what you want for the next companion, what is it the most PROBABLE that for owlcat, after getting greenlit by GW, to release next? freeboota seems to be a favorite, but is it possible for JamesWokeslop to let it happen?

>>713637968
I mean when Owlcat released the stats it showed the majority of players picked Iconoclast, so, yeah, not surprising.

>>713627191
Her existance is one of the worst retcons ever

>>713637586
Same
He walked me out of Commorragh so I walked him into a pain sphere

>>713638195
its a necron
read the steam page

>>713638195
>freeboota
A bloodaxe would make more sense honestly

>>713638195
Trazyn DLC could be legitimately anything since his Vaults have infinite possibilities. The Space Hulk DLC would have the highest chance of an Ork companion since Orks and Space Hulks are linked together quite often in 40K.

How's this for a dogmatic playthough?

Planned party is Argenta, Heinrix, Ulfar, Kibellah and Solomorne.

>>713637287
Machine spirits are glitchy gutted AI, advanced non-ai, the consequences of replacing your computers with human brains, and possible warp taint in ancient technology.

>>713638195
Yeah the tabletop RT lets you use a freeboota. I can't see why they would say no. Only issue is Owlkek has to make a new model and game mechanics for it.
>>713638274
No you're going into the vault of one. It could be anything.

>>713579725 (OP)
>>You have to do both a boss and a ship battle to recruit him
This sounds like a plus I enjoy both boss and ship battles

I just hope the next DLC doesn't take as long
There's no excuse for Lex being so late what with it having less content than Void

I was about to say I wish Arbites was a class so I could go Psyker Arbites, but Psyker Arbites exist in lore?

>>713638364
Alternatively flamethrower ministorium priest.

>>713637284
Operative Assassin or Gunner Master Tactician. Choose the Gunworld homeland for never stop shooting and the Criminal Origin or maybe the new Origin idk. Then enjoy using a longlas for 90% of the game.

>>713637968
To be honest anon, unless you want the C'Tan shard ending, the best RT will always be the Glorious RT. Among C'Tan shard endings though, Iconoclast gets the best variant.

>>713638658
last dlc isn't releasing until september 26

>>713623743
>The setting makes no sense.
Because it's meant to be satirical and part of the satire is everyone within the setting taking its absurdity 100% seriously. People who are super into the setting tend to forget that fact.

>Humans spend their lives experiencing much more positive than negative emotionsU
Unless you're on drugs or have a hormonal issue then most of the time you're emotionally neutral or mildly comfortable/discomforted.
Also, anon, you're literally living in an age where over half a billion people are in unlivable poverty, 9 million people die of starvation anually, there are ongoing wars somewhere in the world 24/7, rape/murder are relatively common crimes even in many places not at war, and parts of the world still happily utilize child soldiers. I would not at all be surprised that, if someone ever figured out how to quantify emotion, we'd find that the sheer everyday misery of the minority outweighs the combined mild comfort of the majority.

>>713635781
when the fuck does this happen?

>>713637287
Yes.

How far do you go when you play Dogmachud? I want to get the cheevo to hand over all the heretics to the inquisition, but I kind of want to let Argenta execute Idira, and I want to execute the other 2 on sight.

Kibbels or Jimmy romance for a fanatic dogmatic playthrough?

>>713639831
Get Toybox and romance both in the same run

>>713639831
Both have bittersweet ends if you keep them dogmachuds I think

Cassia or Kibbles romance for my jaded cop Arbites RT?

>>713640008
>Cassia or Kibbles
yes

>>713640008
Cassia

>>713640008
Imagine the threesome...

>>713637297
>the justification is I like him and im having sex with him
yeah that's pretty much the only reason anyone ever has

>>713639895
>>713639964
I think Jimmy makes more sense for a fanatic that focuses on work.

>>713640043
>>713640114
not possible

>>713640241
Toybox

>>713638765
You can get some Aeldari snipers somewhat early on, especially if you kill Yrliet on Janus. Sadly the best sniper isn't until act 4.

>>713640235
>Choosing duty over pussy
oh no oh no....

>>713639831
If you make Kibbles Dogmatic aligned she will break up with you at the end of her romance since she prioritizes being your loyal assassin over being your lover.

>>713639165
Solormone quest in Act 2 on the feudal world

Hmm can't decide whether I want to correct my errors(had her abandon her title last time) and get the true romance ending for cassia or actually do kibbels' romance now that the flags were fixed. Also starting to feel weird whenever I take an iconoclast choice over dogmatic as an arbites origin

>>713640008
you're supposed to be married to the LAW

>>713640736
I call Kibbles the Law. It's my pet name for her.

can you do decent damage as a maul and shield arbys

Even if you go Dogmachud, you don't have to go full murder hobo. That's the whole point of being a Rogue Trader. It's still okay to romance Yri and then give her to the inquisition afterwards.

I only pick Dogamtic or Iconoclast options EXCEPT if the heretic option ruins Kibbles life and turns her into a schizo slut

>>713641136
>romance

>>713640694
>Also starting to feel weird whenever I take an iconoclast choice over dogmatic as an arbites origin
Being an Arbites is just your origin. You could say that your experiences in the Koronus as a RT opened your character's eyes and that the universe isn't as black and white as the Imperium doctrine dictated. You can then justify leaning a bit more into being a renegade.

>>713641169
>schizo slut
she's already there tho

>>713638925
>only 3 months before DLC release
No way bro.

Next DLC is slated for April-June next year

>>713640993
Yes, if you go with Malpian Shroud

>>713641136
you can't even pump and dump her

>>713593545
The Imperium only cares if you are obviously mutated, and even then it varies.
Literally nobody cares about your skin color unless it's like purple or something

Is going full Dogmatic a practical choice, or do you have to mix some iconoclast in there sometimes?

>>713624968
Yes, the timer for Eurac is basically only relevant for the NPCs downstairs.

>>713641689
At some point you'll max out Dogmatic

>>713640993
Against melee enemies probably. Subductor seems to focus a lot on prone, shield attacks and counters so you can make a pretty good retaliation tank but it's not going to be as proactive as say a bladedancer. Probably does really good with a vanguard too. Making the first shield attack free makes a better use case for all the vanguards utility stuff.

>>713641689
I think each of the three paths has full retard options so even if you want to hit max dogmatic you'll probably mix in a few of the others to avoid the really stupid outcomes. As an example on the other paths iconoclast has 2 really really dumb decisions that give major points but can also be avoided and still hit max rank

>>713641918
>I think each of the three paths has full retard options
this is the way it should be. the player should still have to think about the decision a bit and not just go "oh theres my color" and pick that onw. did going full paragon have any downsides in mass effect?

>>713635781
Yes, we know. White women are into bestiality for some reason

>>713641689
The game is designed in a way that eventually you’ll come across conviction options that aren’t your main. You can very well ignore them to the best of your ability or pick a secondary conviction that can only reach a maximum of Adherent (Dogmatic Votary with Iconoclast Adherent or Dogmatic Votary with Heretic Adherent). It’s entirely up to you. Mechanically having secondary conviction is beneficial since you get access to its Follower and Adherent ranks of perks plus its colony projects and whatever dialogue restrictions it unlocks.

>>713635781
Why does the portrait look AI sloppa. Owlcat?

How far can you abuse Cassia and Kibbles while still maintaining a romance with them? I went full simp on my first playthrough as an Iconokek but I want to be more firm as a Dogmachad, but I'm playing on Grimdark mode so there's no reloading if I fuck up a line of dialogue..

>>713582982
I don't think that comes even close to throwing psyker buffs in an AoE since bring it down doesn't work.

>>713624630
Idira + raven is a must if you're speccing her for buffs, raven is pretty shit for offensive powers since the good powers are already AoE.

I think I read somewhere Skullwarms have low priority for enemies so I guess you could analyze + expose weakness on a cluster of enemies so it could work.
But I feel it's nowhere as broken as buffing your whole party with psyker shit

>>713640736
I said JADED cop

>>713642980
Solomorne then.

>>713641328
I meant 2026

>>713642845
>guy bitching about AI doesn't know the words
sloppa is a good thing dumbass. it has nothing to do with the word slop. And nothing looks like AI, its whole thing is that it can imitate any style

>>713640402
Isn't the best sniper early game just from making based Winterscale happy?

>>713619158
idira's right there

>>713637284
Soldier > Assassin
Get an Officer ally to use Finest Hour on you then spam Killing Edge forever and one shot everything

How do I melee?
Last playthrough I had Abelard vanguard taunting and counterattacking (he worked out great if I let him do his thing) but Heinrix assassin was just serviceable, good at buffing and dodging but my RT pyromancer solder/master tactician carried hard.

I plan on playing warrior/arch militant this time around. Should I go for the new dual wield talents? 2h? shields?
Already know executioneer breaks the game so I'm avoiding it and the goth grill is a blade dancer so I don't want to double dip.
Also don't feel like playing pyro. Setting myself on fire at the start of every combat is retarded.

>>713643554
>sloppa is a good thing dumbass. it has nothing to do with the word slop

>>713643578
He gives you an Aeldari Sniper Rifle, which you can only use if you're a pathetic faggot taking Aeldari Weapon Proficiency rather than using Imperium weapons like a true servant of the Emperor.

Forgive me, Lord Captain. I have no information that would be of interest to you at this moment.

>>713643727
THANKS VIGDIS
WOW I LOVE MY HIGHLY REACTIVE LOVABLE GANG OF MISFITS
OUT THE AIRLOCK I GO

>>713643554
>sloppa is a good thing dumbass.
Okay saar

>>713643669
Why soldier? Operative has so many buffs to your sniper damage.

>>713642845
Because you're obsessed

>>713590607
>Melee Pasqal
I tried that on my first playthrough. Was fun at first but ultimately would not recommend, falls off bigtime lategame

>>713643554
Are you retarded

>>713643727
but the long eared whatever they were called, Vigdis

>>713582396
Does the order really matter that much? Everything here seems pretty minor

>>713643886
I modded the game to make Pasqal a Soldier Arch Militant and went all in on his Mechanicus Origin powers and that was pretty fun.

>>713644196
Operative just feels underwhelming to me. Pasqal and Idira at least both have decent AOE options to rack up Tide of Excellence stacks but other than that it kind of sucks.

>>713644309
I vaguely remember there being a way to set Yrliet up to being a oneshot kill engine even on higher difficulties.

>>713643680
>Setting myself on fire at the start of every combat is retarded.
That's absolutely unnecessary, the extra +1 Psy Rating isn't worth wasting an action on yourself and taking damage rather than blowing the enemy up for more Momentum instantly

>How do I melee?
Warrior > Assassin if you don't want Bladedancer

>>713644430
How is Bladedancer?

>>713598273
There's a shield in a box in the room where you first meet Argenta.

>>713643836
>>713643971
newfags

>>713643695
troll

>>713644570
Extremely powerful and the strongest/most fun starter class due to how many attacks/turn/actions/movement you have even early
tldr: Death World then get the two talents, one from Death the other from Bladedancer that buff you for each Injury/Trauma (they stack)
Then rush for Blood Oath + Blood Rush talent and just solo everything as early as Act 1 in 1 turn by spamming Blood Oath on enemies

>>713644570
Most broken class in the game, outside of Officer which will always be the one true king.

>>713644570
overpowered

>>713644760
Officer is boring to play, though.

>>713644785
Not if Pyro Officer (later Sanctic) since you have great damage options as early as the start + all the Officer buffing (and more from Sanctic/Psyker)
And you don't even need to invest in damage stats much since Wrath of the Emperor is the best nuke in the game as early as Act 2 and stacks based on Resolve alone

>>713644430
>extra +1 Psy Rating isn't worth
It's more about orchestrate flames, you ignite yourself > orchestrate flames to make your burn permanent, reduce its damage and add ignite damage to all your melee attacks.

>Warrior > Assassin
Did they change anything since release?
I've already played that combo with Heinrix and other than killing bosses it felt lacking

>>713644890
>Did they change anything since release?
Yes, you now have Chainsaw weapons that shred everything due to 3-4 attacks in one hit and individual bonuses like from Malpian Shroud/Desolation etc. being added individually to each part of the multi hit
Assassin spamming Killing Edge with Chainsaws and buffed by Finest Hour is slasher movie villain tier

>>713644773
>>713644703
>>713644760
So since I intend to use kibbles I should probably not use it then?

>>713644890
>It's more about orchestrate flames, you ignite yourself > orchestrate flames to make your burn permanent, reduce its damage and add ignite damage to all your melee attacks.
wasteful unless you want the melee style I suppose, as Pyro you just go Ignite > Inferno early, later just activate Exec's Heroic to make everything instantly burn then explode everything instantly through Inflame, as in literally every enemy in battle regardless of line of sight

>>713645095
Yes in that it will compete for gear unless you go Pyro Bladedancer

Reminder Arch Militant is a massive overrated trap and Master Tactician mogs it in every single aspect possible, from Momentum gains to Damage to AP management

>>713645095
It's fine, just spec yourself into 2H melee and her into dual wield, or vice versa, there is gear for both.

>>713645320
It became "overrated" due to the fact it was significantly stronger on release and they hard nerfed it later. The fact that it's still as good as it is shows how ridiculous it was originally.

>>713645515
Yes, but Master Tact on release was also the strongest source of +flat damage and had even more extra turn stacking, so even then it was still better than Arch Mili for stuff like Burst attacks, and still is despite both being nerfed

>>713645320
What makes MT so good? I could never get much out of it.

>started game as vigilant arbites
Where the shotguns at?

>>713646268
There's one in the prologue in the officers lounge behind a couple of skill checks.

Good, I see the DLC did not forget the essentials

>>713636860
the heretic reason to take him is: "I dunno, why not?" a lot of heretic choices are just lmao- and lol-tier evil for evil's sake. but when you consider that chaos literally considers evil good, that makes sense to them. or, in other words: why would you do this retarded thing, as a heretic? because, as a heretic, you're retarded. as a dogmatic, you can also roleplay as retarded. I guess iconoclast too, like keeping the whole AI thing you have on your ship around even though it's either an abominable intelligence, a warp demon, or a necron artifact; only a heretic, a pants-shitter (or an admech, which is basically the same thing) would be retarded enough to do anything other than purge it.

>>713646393
you mean the captain's quarters?

>>713646000
Well there's the funny power to make everyone magdump a target.
The real answer is that he has a shitton of damage mods and is generally specialized for shooty characters.