*buuurp*
Morty...

WUBBALUBBADUB MORTYYYY GOD ISN'T *UUUURRRPPP* REAL EVEN DOE THE DEVIL HIMSELF APPEARED IN AN EPISODE
WHICH IS WHY WE SHOULD LET IN MORE IMMIGRANTS AND TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS!!!
I HAVE THE MORAL HIGH GROUND NOW LET'S KILL A BUNCH OF INNOCENT SENTIENT SPECIES TO GET SOME SPACEWEED MORRRRTYYYYYY

>>713590670 (OP)
Basedjak in the first panel

>>713590670 (OP)
Why did god allow Epstein to get away with it?

How are they fairy tales if they exist in his universe?

>>713590670 (OP)
I found the amogus

just too based. most people can't keep up.

>>713591685
except he didn't, he got "suicided". the real question is why did he allow Epstein to die before exposing all the other freaks who went to his island

>>713591685
>>713595502
Because God allows free will. If he were to involve himself with us, it would constitute the loss of free will. It is up to us and all others to act in accordance with what is just and right.

And before you go, "hurr christcuck", I'm not religious. If anything, I'd say I am Agnostic, but even that's pushing it a bit too far. I'm spiritual. Mostly because I can't ever really fully believe or disbelieve in something until I see it or prove it myself.

>>713591528
Holy

>>713595763
>And he hardened Pharaoh's heart, that he hearkened not unto them; as the Lord had said.

>>713595763
>God allows free will
>drowns humanity in a great flood, even innocent babies

>>713590670 (OP)
>AI generated comic
Grim

>>713596760
Free will does not equal free consequences.

>>713591685
because the jews are His chosen people.

>>713596842
What did the innocent babies do to deserve getting drowned? You said free will, but regardless of which decisions the babies made they're still getting drowned either way.

Also free will isn't pointing a loaded gun at someone and saying "do what I say or you die". That's now what free will is.

Why don't fedoralords every do islam or, gulp, judaism takedowns?

>>713591528
wait is rick and morty secretly based?

>>713595763
>you have free will
>i know everything you'll ever think or do
>i made you like this and you can never change it because i already know what you'll do

>>713596887
Why don't Christians follow God's command of "Love thine enemy"?

>>713596713
Every single christard itt will pretend to not see this post.
There is an explicit precedent for free will being revoked in abrahamic holy texts.

>>713596887
Because everyone is already aware that those are subhuman asiatic religions.
The main issue here, is an another asiatic religion next to them somehow getting a pass.

>God knows the future
>God knows every decision everyone will ever make
>Floods the earth because oopsie he didn't like how much wickedness there was
>"Omnipotent all knowing being" making big mistakes like that
Either he doesn't know the future or he gets mad over stuff he already knows, which makes no sense. Why didn't he just flood the earth as soon as his future vision showed him and got mad over something he should already know?

>>713597072
Do you know the word "potential"?
>>713591643
Lost it.

>>713590670 (OP)
he flipped again?

>>713597072
Please understand this text was written by 85iq desert arabs for 85iq desert arabs. Those do not ask such question. And if they do, the answer is "ask that again and you'll get one head shorter".

>>713597072
Much worse was the bit where he gave everyone foreskins and then was like "ew yuck, take them back off".

>>713596868
Talmud says if God argues against a rabbi...
>>713595763
Getting cheated on puts a genocide notice on the people in OT.

>>713597148
so he's not all powerful if you're implying that he couldn't tell which potentiality would become reality

>>713596786
his art style has been like this for over a decade now.

>>713597148
You didn't answer the question. Why would God get mad over everything he should already know? And why wouldn't he just easily prevent it if he's omnipotent?

Imagine having the power to protect your children without even snapping your fingers, you have infinite power you can literally just make a magic wall that protects them from suffering. But instead you let an invader near them (the serpent) and tempt them. Would any good parent let a harmful stranger near their kids like that?

>>713596990
>>713597072
Something neither you nor most Christians understand is that Biblical literalism is a heresy. Another thing neither you nor most Christians understand is that the God of the Old Testament is not the supreme Monadic God that Christians worship. The Old Testament is a series of bronze age stories written by people who still saw YHWH as one member of a vast Canaanite pantheon of gods and that the stories were edited later. Christianity is a religion largely rooted in Greek philosophy that uses those bronze age stories as a framework for presenting its ideas. Atheists have a child's understanding of the thing they hate the most. You're eternally trapped in a kindergarten tantrum over having to put your gameboy down to go to church on Easter.

>>713597267
He's all powerful and we're in control of potential futures. Made in His image, remember?
>>713597295
See above. Everything potential isn't everything realized.

>>713597161
Nah, this is further down the chain, he's going full RETVRN. Christianity being a jewish psyop or whatever.
He'll flip again the second he gets a whiff of pussy, though.

>>713596887
Lucifer's house isn't divided and his selected are building bunkers.

Bibebobames?

>>713597419
This is the elites' plan, yes.

>>713597328
Did you know that God hates it when one of his children insults another? To the point that it's something akin to dangling yourself above hellfire? But most edgy Christians do it anyway. They don't follow "love thine enemy".

Most of all, they never answer questions. They dodge, they sidestep, they run. Because truth is their kryptonite.

>>713595763
>Because God allows free will.
Human free will is extremely limited. It can be easily should down with various physical methods, for example causing enough pain.
What's more important, human's own mind is a subject to various physiological impulses which steer it in various directions, and over which consciousness has no control. The ability of consciousness to resist is limited, and in many cases, insufficient. If the human physiology was designed by an intelligent creator who wanted humans to have free will, then what the fuck is all that shit?

Not sure why am I even typed this though, someone capable of processing those issues won't be a christard in first place.

>>713597472
Only one book warns us against impostors amd falsely so called sxience. How come?

>>713597161
Define flipped

>>713597353
If God is all-knowing he should already know all potentials and what will actually happen. Therefore if he knows what will happen and what every decision ever will be, why is he getting angry over something he should already know? Why didn't he just flood the earth as soon as his future sight showed the wickedness in the future? Why didn't he just protect the garden from Satan?

Would a responsible parent let a stranger near their kids like that? Hell at least regular parents have the excuse of being normal, God is supposedly omnipotent. How does he make a mistake that huge

>>713597472
Loving someone doesn't mean being nice, it means doing what's best for someone even if they don't like it. That includes calling you a manchild when you act like a manchild in the hopes that you grow up and at least gain a deeper understanding of the thing you hate rather than being stuck as a mental and spiritual toddler.

>>713597491
If you've been drugged you go to the ER.
If you've been memetically poisoned you go to Lord of Lord and King of Kings.

>>713597517
>Only one book warns us against impostors
Are you sure you want to get fact checked on that anon?

>>713597551
We're old enough to think for ourselves right now, aren't we? Besides the Lord puts extreme scrutiny on parents.

>>713597616
Why leave out sxience falsely so called?

Remember that time god had a group of children mauled by bears because they made fun of a baldie?

>>713597328
>is that Biblical literalism is a heresy
The scripture is treated as an infallible always true text in protestant denominations. Denominations which do not want commoners to interpret the scripture declare that the head of the church is a wizard who gets the correct interpretation of the scripture directly from higher powers.

>Bronze age history etc
If you're trying to get into the religion's actual history and internal working, you are by definition not seeing it as a proper follower will see it. So why bother?

>Christianity is a religion largely rooted in Greek philosophy
Only for as much as semi-literate brown christards finding scraps of said philosophy in the ruins of destroyed civilization and saying something like "shieeeet nigger they are almost, ALMOST, as smart as our wise imams".

>>713597558
>doing what's best for someone
Lying to someone on the internet is doing what's best for someone? You have a very strange definition of that word. Also you just debunked an All-Loving God by that statement too. "Free Will" is the weakest excuse Christians have on why bad things happen under a loving "omnipotent" creator. By your own logic, God should also do the same with his version of free will.

>God is all knowing and all powerful, he can prevent every bad thing B-B-BUT FREE WILL!
But you just said love isn't about being nice, it's about caring about someone so much you can challenge or use force to keep them safe. God is going against that. He's just letting rape, murder, atrocities occur in the name of free will instead of using his god powers to directly stop them. It's like if your toddler is heading towards a cliff, the responsible parent would start sprinting towards him to try and save him with action. In the same situation God will be like, "meh, let him die because muh FREE WILL". Contradicting your definition of love.

>>713597697
Going out into the wilderness where literally mother bears reside was such a brainlet move.

>>713597749
Atheists treat the Bible like muslims the quran. Why?

>>713597551
To very ironically play devil's advocate, it could be read as a divine test of faith. Which in truth is probably more fucked up than him just making mistakes

>>713597558
This.
>>713597807
Truth often is called misinformation in the current year.

>>713590670 (OP)
>Jesus isn't real so worship Odin instead

>>713597886
Because aggressive atheism appeared in protestant cultures where Bible is treated like Quran in Islam. It is not present in Catholic and other traditional Christianity cultures. Why is that, is a separate question.

>>713597634
Answer the question, stop dodging. Why would God get angry over stuff he already knows and can instantly prevent with his all-knowing all-mighty self? Yes, humans are flawed and we make mistakes. But he made us this way and he knows whatever decisions we're gonna make so why does he act surprised and keep seething over his mistakes then?

>>713597660
Because you're trying to make a strawman and I didn't want to bite. But Christians always bring it up despite the fact it's ironically more humble more than religion, because it at least admits when a mistake is made. And revises and updates information.
Also, I love the fact that you ignore the part about getting fact checked on impostors. You seem to "leave out" things too.

>>713597918
I like it more now.

>>713597807
Well, that's just our collective punishment from le fall of man, bro. God really likes the idea of punishing people for the sins of people related to them. That's just his tough love. :-)

>>713597918
But God already knows who will have faith and who won't, so any test is just a humiliation ritual.

>>713597571
No, god said explicitly that he also handles poisonings, you've just gotta be faithful enough.

>>713597925
>This
Can you respond to my point about love in this post >>713597807 then?

If a child is heading towards a cliff, God will idly watch and let him die in the name of free will.
But a responsible parent would actually physically try and save the child by running towards him.

That goes against your point about love. You disagree with your own God about that.

Why doesn't Tats obsess over his own cultural heritage? Why greeks and vikings?

>>713597918
>>713597971
>a test of faith
But he designed Adam and Eve himself and already knows every decision they'll ever make. Why is he angry over something he already knows? Moreso why didn't he just prevent the serpent from tempting them? For someone so omnipotent, these mistakes are a bit much.

>>713598002
>But God already knows who will have faith and who won't, so any test is just a humiliation ritual.
Yeah? Remember that time God hardened the pharaoh's heart? Or the entire Job thing? God knows everything but still fucks with people just because he's good like that.

>>713597969
Choice. Your neighbour could break into your house. Until he does you let the potential burglar in peace, help him when his car breaks down, etc. Stop being a muslim about it they're the ones who believe it's all set in stone including how often you cheat on your wife.
>>713597969
Soviet science is a figure of speech in Bloc countries.
>>713597995
Collective punishment is issued in case of adultery.
>>713598042
Why does the child choose to go to the cliff?

Can any christians answer why god hated foreskins for like a few thousand years and then changed his mind and said foreskins are cool now?
Like what's the deal with foreskins anyway? He's the one the put them there in the first place.

>>713598180
>Collective punishment is issued in case of adultery.
God does it in a lot of different scenarios though. He gets people killed left and right just for being born where 'sin' is.

>>713597328
ah yes, the logic of the theist
>the people in the past were wrong about god, they made it up, despite being the closest to the time he supposedly made himself known to people
>meanwhile, us wisened ones of the modern era, we have it right. we re-wrote the story to be more in touch with modern sensibilities, and cover some plot holes, we clearly are not making it up despite literally rewriting this thing based on nothing but convenience.
kek, the absolute state of it.

When will you wake up and realise all these stories stem from the same source, branching over the thousands of years like a fucking linux distro

All the ones that died were ones that were proven wrong as people understood the world, the ones that stayed were the ones that were nebulous and mystical, impossible to disprove. The ones that forced people to follow through violence, disavowed questioning, stopped people from learning how to read. The ones that conveniently rewrite the book when needed.

Youd kill people for suggesting noahs ark wasnt real 1000 years ago, now, "oh its hypothetical anon! its a metaphorical tale!"
convenient eh?
You have no reason, nor evidence to believe in god, you just do out of literal blind faith, that was created via the very apparatus you now disparage as bronze age stories. They are the backbone of this blind faith that some god exists. you have nothing else.

Youre no different from the people believing in the sun god and killing babies who were mad about the older generation instead thinking about the moon god, who OBVIOUSLY didnt exist right fellow sun worship bros?

Obviously the pragmatic answer is all religions are fake and were made up for the gain of power and wealth over the unintelligent illiterate masses, with the slight tangible miniscule chance one religion is actually real.

Who in reality is "eternally trapped" who really has free will? You are forced to abide by laws written by retards from a story book made millenia ago. I, am free.

>>713598237
Have your heard about the Cybele cult?

>>713598290
Gnosticism is the elites' religion, bro.

>>713595763
Dude the entire Old Testament is God fucking around with humans for the lolz. Dude straight up destroys entire civilizations because they were enacting "free will" (sodom and gomorrah).

I'm gonna be honest, guys. I miss the hyper-feminist phase. At least then he was putting in a modicum of effort with plotlines and shit instead of recycling the same "jews bad" script with a different theme 8 times in a row.

>>713598346
Read the whole chapter.

>>713598180
>Choice
He already knows what choice anyone will ever make. Why does he act surprised and seethe. Is he all-knowing or what? He also could just prevent anything that displeases him because he's supposedly omnipotent, so why doesn't he? Imagine if you drove a car knowing the wheel was broken beforehand and then act upset when you lose control. It makes no sense.

>why does the child go to the cliff
Again, dodging the question because you're scared. That's not the point. Kids are dumb, they die from carelessness all the time. Now answer the question. Your definition of love, God contradicts it. Why does he? Love should not be blindly agreeing with the person, it should also be getting directly involved when they're leading themselves to ruin? Why does God just let the child die instead of trying to protect him like how a good parent should? Like you said, loving isn't about being nice all the time, he should let the kid know that free will in that specific instance is not a good thing and not let him fall off a cliff.

>>713598401
You'll get the gnosticism for normies phase.

>>713598483
what's that?

>>713598417
Was it not free will that drove the humans to wanting to kill the angels?

>>713598438
Only thing I will tell you is read the book like an ancient history book like Pliny and stop being a determinist. Children have parents. Adults can listen to their parents but can choose to run to the cliff and get tranny'd. We tell them not to.

>>713598539
Yes. Hence the collective punishment.

>>713596760
Old testament God chilled out after a few of his creations showed they could be good. Then he completely chilled out after he sent my man jesus diwn to earth to dab on the devil

>>713598345
Its best to not believe in god
If god isnt real
>if god isnt real and you believed: nothing, youre dead
>if god isnt real and you didnt believe: nothing, youre dead
if god is real
>if god is real and you believed: heaven
>if god is real and you didnt believe, but hes the good god modern christcucks say he is: you get to heaven for being a good boy without needing to be told to do so
>if god is real and you didnt believe, but hes the bad god from the old testament: you go to hell eternally for failing his dumb flawed test and for expressing your free will that he gave you with prior omnipotent knowledge that you would be unfaithful, that now means for some reason you deserve eternal torture...
the latter is not a god I would ever worship, they are evil and stupid, flip them the bird as you are plunged into hell and spit on their toes.

why would I apologise to a bread basket retard for them being retarded?
what is that god even doing, all that power and just... watching people live forever? what a fucking lame pathetic NEET of a god.

>>713595763
>DID THAT LOVING FOLLOWER UZZAH TOUCH THE ARK BECAUSE HE SAW IT WAS ABOUT TO FALL OFF THE OXEN CART?!?!??! HE'S GOTTA FUCKING DIE ON THE SPOT FOR THIS TRANSGRESSION

>oh, some African warlord is butchering a village? heh, he'd better repent ot else..

This thread is sad, people that cant even fully comprehend our reality trying to second guess and backseat drive a creator of the universe. Spending all that time and energy letting a God you claim doesnt exist live rent free in your head cant be healthy. It's obvious why you dont want him to exist too, some sin you want to justify to yourselves whether it's sodomy or resentment at not having a silver spoon shoved your mouth since birth.

A person’s own foolishness leads him astray, yet his heart rages against the Lord.

I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

There's a reason atheists are much more likely to commit suicide. Please do some soul searching first it could literally save your life

But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

>>713597328
>having to put your gameboy down to go to church on Easter.
>implying I would ever put it down

>>713598573
Punishment is counter to free will.

Whatever happened to the nerd and the devil girl? Did they at least get a happy ending before the author lost it?

>>713596887
he had an entire storyline about Zeus battling JHWH

How did Jesus dying on a cross save anyone anyway? God sent a human with actual superpowers (who was also himself) to die... and this achieved what exactly?

>>713598639
>I can't wait to spend eternity with niggers and repentant child molesters in Heaven while friends and family burn in Hell for eternity

>>713598639
You'd think you guys would have figured out by now that talking like a chinese novel character isn't winning anyone over.

>>713598550
You're still not answering the question. Yes, we know children and parents make mistakes. But we're talking about your definition of love, and also God shouldn't make mistakes. You said love isn't about being nice all the time and there should be involvement if someone is close to danger. But in the name of muh free will God lets rape, murder and evil things occur daily to the children he supposedly """"""loves""""". Basically if a kid is running towards a cliff:

>God's response: Muh free will just the toddler fall off
>A responsible parent's response: Already running towards the child trying to save him.

If a child has a bedroom and someone accidentally put a dangerous substance or a weapon on a shelf somewhere.
>God's response: Muh free will just let him grab it if he does (like in the gardne)
>Responsible parent's response: Grab the dangerous thing and take it out of the room.

Also God should be All-knowing, All-loving, and All-mighty which contradict the bleak world we live in. Under an all powerful loving heavenly Father, THIS is not the result. And his version of free will and love contradict yours, so your opinion on this is contradicting itself.

>>713596887
lefties have become the main critics of israel in the US, though

>>713598724
God needed to send God to save us from God's punishment for breaking rules God made

>>713598639
ah the old
>atheists sin, I dont sin because I believe in god
so lets ignore all the sinning people do then beg for forgiveness for. or all the atheists who are good people despite having no obligation to a god to be so
scary YOU need fear of god not to sin, me, an atheist, simply lives as a good person.

>>713598674
This is what being raised in a society where physical discipline is pretty much outlawed gets you.

People dont even realize anymore how spoiled they are. Actions having consequences does not negate free will I dont know how twisted up you have to be to think that.

>Some one is going to punish me if I do the right thing
>Guess I have to be evil now

>Participants, acting as "teachers," were instructed to administer electric shocks to a "learner" (an actor) for incorrect answers, with the shocks increasing in voltage. The study revealed a surprising degree of obedience, with many participants continuing to shock the learner despite their apparent pain and pleas, highlighting the powerful influence of authority.

Why choose to act like that? Wake up sheeple!

>>713590670 (OP)
Way to fucking ruin it with the last panel, retard.

>>713598597
If God is real the world will be destroyed and replaced. False religions like judaism and islam butthurt.
>>713598616
Read the preceding chapter. It was to be treated like royalty, not merchandise.
>>713598639
They have a reason. A gnostic reason.
>>713598674
Only logical conclusion.

>>713598804
They're all super careful to do the "we don't hate jews, we hate the zionists" song and dance though, directing all criticism specifically to the state of Isreal and not the people or religion.

>>713598237
jew god =/= christian god
>but...
no butts
t. atheist

>>713598639
>This thread is sad, people that cant even fully comprehend our reality trying to second guess and backseat drive scientific knowledge. Spending all that time and energy letting a God you claim exists to live rent free in your head cant be healthy. It's obvious why you want him to exist too, some sin you want to repent for, whether it's sodomy or resentment at not having a silver spoon shoved your mouth since birth. Or paedophillia
>A person’s own foolishness leads him astray, yet his heart rages for the Lord.
>I have spoken to you of heavenly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of earthly things?
>There's a reason theists are much more likely to commit rape of kids and be sheep to propaganda. Please do some soul searching first it could literally save your life
>But seek first the library and its truth, and all these things will be added to you.

>>713598785
Now you're getting it.

>>713599006
One and the same considering the accusation of blasphemy.

>>713599052
blasphemy can mean a lot of different things

>>713598904
I of course am still a sinner, im sure there are plenty of holier than thou wolves in sheeps clothing out there but to use them as justification for your own lack of faith is just another excuse to not believe because of self interest.

If youve ever read the parable of the two sons youd know not to condemn others to hell for superficial things. Ultimately God is the judge and who can say who denies or accepts him upon finally meeting him.

28 “What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, ‘Son, go and work today in the vineyard.’

29 “‘I will not,’ he answered, but later he changed his mind and went.

30 “Then the father went to the other son and said the same thing. He answered, ‘I will, sir,’ but he did not go.

31 “Which of the two did what his father wanted?”

“The first,” they answered.

Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. 32 For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him.

>>713599006
If you were an actual atheist, you won't be so invested into that shit as to try force this retarded statement, which contradicts what both of those religions acknowledge about each other.
Perhaps you no longer believe in abrahamic supernatural shit literally, but you still hold a retarded feud between two abrahamic denominations as a part of your identity.

>>713599091
Precisely, speaking against established doctrine. Aseby is lack or complete novelty.

>>713599126
In a sense, the devil is the only true atheist for having the knowledge and saying no.

Honestly at this point I think there's a nonzero chance Tatsuya has bleached his skin and died his hair blonde.

>>713599126
Bullshit. People argue about Dark Sous lore, retard. Something not being real doesn't mean everything about it is meaningless.

>>713599189
This will become public fashion.

>>713595763
true that's why i let my shitbull run around the neighborhood without a leash

>>713599225
DS has no implications of reality, like Superman or Spiderman.

>>713599185
hes an antitheist if anything

>>713598724
God had already destroyed the world once before with the flood he spared Noah from, and he promised never to do so again no matter how sinful humanity became. Well, humanity became sinful again, and if nothing happened we would all be damned to Hell. So rather than destroying humanity, he decided to destroy Himself.

God sent Jesus down to Earth, knowing he would die. Jesus preached the virtues of kindness, charity, and love, knowing he would be persecuted for it. And even on the cross, even while suffering and being mocked, he merely begged for the salvation of his killers.

It was an act of ultimate self-sacrifice and love, to descend to this world and try to save us even when he knew what the result would be. Rather than casting judgement upon man, God allowed man to cast judgement upon him, and so doing allowed the slate to be wiped clean once more, in a way not dissimilar to the great flood before.

>>713599292
Consider the punishment after death.
>>713599302
True, yes, but knowing is prerequisite for truly saying no.

>>713598986
>It was to be treated like royalty, not merchandise.
exactly, which is why Uzzah tried to stop it from falling when he saw the cart shake
he wanted to keep the ark safe and protected and for what is literally an instinctive reaction to seeing something about to fall God struck him dead on the spot

what if Uzzah did nothing instead and let the ark fall? would that have been preferable? would God have struck him dead for inaction?

>>713599307
Bodyoids (don't look it up.)
>>713599392
It was in the cart in the first place.

>Thread filled with blatantly incorrect bullshit on all sides
>Shitflinging takes up more airspace than nitrogen
I'm too tired to do this shit. I'm going back to bed.

>>713599189
it's stange he makes no mention of that japanese, considering they have much stronger nationalist sentiments and a pantheon of their own.

>>713599307
>Jesus preached the virtues of kindness, charity, and love
>called a goy a dog not fit for scraps from the table

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Everyone knows God isn't real. Even Christians. They choose to believe in God because it makes them happier and more successful people - which actually works, by the way. Religious people are actually happier. You aren't intelligent for pointing out the extremely obvious logical deficiencies of Christianity to Christians. They know and they don't care.

>>713599102
I dont justify my lack of faith on the actions of others, rather, the lack of literally any evidence or tangible proof
I will not subscribe to blind faith of one of many religions than continue to defy scientific logic by abusing unknowns of the universe until im literally presented with proof. or I die and see for myself. as I mention here >>713598597
if hes real, he can judge me. I know im a good person AND I was so without fear of hell, despite knowing once im dead nothing matters, I still live life being good, suffering instead of stealing, hurting others, lying etc. Despite believing there is nothing after death I chose to suffer the life of being a good person. Despite being relatively poor I dont steal money I find, I turn it in.
if god sees that and says, too bad bucko, shouldve been faithful.. then, thats no god for me anyway.
if he accepts me into heaven then I have eternity to thank the guy, yes?

>>713599428
>I am being deliberately obtuse to purposefully absolve God of any wrongdoing in slaying someone
k

When's the last time this comic has depicted a black person that we're supposed to like? For the last year or so, the only time black people have ever appeared it's been as a symptom of devious jewish subversion.

>>713598674
Bitch free will is literally the ability to choose despite punishment. If carrot and stick are the only things that determine your actions youre no better than an animal donkey.

Humans have free will so we can choose what is right, damn the consequences!

>Hmm saving this small child means losing my arm?
>Yes i will do it anyways
>Atheists losing their minds over one piece

>>713599489
What did he say exactly?

>>713599498
Everyone knows God is coming back. Christians. They choose to believe in God because it makes them happier and more successful people - which actually works, by the way. Religious people are actually happier. You aren't intelligent for pointing out the extremely obvious logical results of Christianity to Christians. They know and they care to tell you.

>>713599606
A dog can choose to shit on your carpet despite knowing it will be punished afterwards. Does a dog have free will?

>>713599569
If you can't argue in good faith you can't read ancient literature.

>/pol/ is buttmad their beloved muslims are dying again
>shitpost about God not existing because "IF GOD REAL THEN WHY BAD THING?"
lol

>>713599498
People with down syndrome are happier too, anon. Self reported happiness is like the most pointless stat.

>>713599708
I dunno anon, God made a lot of philosophers miserable and they died miserably.

>>713599606
Yet they scream for actions having consequences decided by mob rule.

>>713599756
IQ and faith share the same brain region.

>>713599539
Just do your best to love others anon, and watch out for the very real danger of becoming a hypocrite. Lots of times people claim to be good or think they are doing good when in reality a lot of it is self serving, see charity operators raking in 7 figure salaries.

The benefits of the bible for someone seeking to do good is the wisdom and instruction it provides in how to go about it correctly. Without it you have a much more dangerous road but again it's free will. Good luck out there and just remember to love others, more than yourself as much as possible.

I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete. 12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. 14 You are my friends if you do what I command. 15 I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.

>>713599307
>he promised never to do so again no matter how sinful humanity became
God knows everything. There was no reason for him to 'destroy the world'. He simply could've avoided the scenario by making the world different instead.
>It was an act of ultimate self-sacrifice and love, to descend to this world and try to save us even when he knew what the result would be
God can make infinite Jesuses, there's no sacrifice involved. Random acts of martyrdom are infinitely more impressive because they have no actual proof of God's existence unlike Jesus who was literally a superpowered half-god.
>Rather than casting judgement upon man, God allowed man to cast judgement upon him
Except God judges, has judged and will judge every single person in the entire universe for all of eternity. God allowed himself to be 'judged' in one tiny country, on one tiny planet. Once.

>>713595763
satan is preventing us from having free will, and god created satan, knowing that satan would get in the way of our free will.

>>713599752
>strawmanning means god is real
is this it? This is all you have?

>>713599636

I've met more rabid, close-minded atheists than christians irl
also way more atheists believe in reptilian alien shapechangers brainwashing us that the Earth is not flat than christians do

>>713599636
25Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.

26But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.

>>713599950
What strawmanning? These are arguments used in this very thread

>>713599737
>Implying a trained dog that knows it will be punished frequently poops on carpets

Come on now anon you know better

>>713599964
>oh yes Jesus I am a dog
>heh, okay goy wish granted

>>713599756
What's your point? You think you're better off than a potato? That potato's more fulfilled, has less stress, and has more free time than you ever will. You should envy the potato, and you should develop faith to become more potatolike.
It's not just about self reported happiness, it's actual life success. Religious people have a community to fall back on for assistance, a strong moral framework that informs their decisions, ample opportunity for romantic relationships, and inbuilt networking for career advancement. Joining and being active in a church is one of the best things you can do if you want to have a family and live a comfortable life.

>>713599964
>>713600010
you literally bring these up in every thread and every thread they are refuted because the average anti-christian is a brownoid mutt with no sense of English

>>713590670 (OP)
I just want to point out that this is stupid in context, because this is the Huntsman tasked by the Evil (Drag) Queen to kill Snow White at the Seven Dwarves house. So it's a literal fairy tale dismissing other things as fairy tales.

>>713599908
>and watch out for the very real danger of becoming a hypocrite. Lots of times people claim to be good or think they are doing good when in reality a lot of it is self serving, see charity operators raking in 7 figure salaries.
fair, I think im in the clear, despite growing up poor as dirt I didnt become obsessed with money as soon as I could access it like so many others.
probably got a laundry list of 'sins' like anyone else, especially since I dont even know them all, but if god is real im sure what hed care about is my good faith honest attempt to live a valuable life, not for myself, but for everyone

i'll probably give it a read, >>713599908
>The benefits of the bible for someone seeking to do good is the wisdom and instruction it provides in how to go about it correctly. Without it you have a much more dangerous road
is a convincing point to at least extract purpose from it

>>713599914
You're being a determinist again.
>>713599947
We can fight him, you know.
>>713599964
>>713600010
There we go. Canaanite.
>>713599981
Real life experiences condensed into catchphrases.

>>713600038
so?
I can cherry pick random shit from online too, doesnt make it an absolute.
Why doesnt it include statements against religion by athiests that actually made succinct points throughout history?
Because those are harder to argue against, and making a bad faith strawman isnt.
its called an appeal to absurdity.

>>713600072
Even if the dog is poorly trained it still knows the punishment is coming and will do so anyway. Even if the dog is well trained it could still choose to shit on the carpet but does not. How is this meaningfully different from the way people express "free will"?

>>713600125
>You're being a determinist again.
Why did you address only the part that mattered the least? Do you not have an argument against the fact that God isn't capable of sacrifice because his power is infinite?

>>713599908
And never forget to stay humble, that's probably the first thing that goes out the window for atheist "do gooders" hence all the virtue signalling you see in the world.

“Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.

2 “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

>>713596887
They cowards. Since Christians aren't cutting people's heads off they go for them. Also they typically simp for brown people.

>>713597962
>atheism only exists in one type of culture

>>713600193
>#notallatheists
>#notrealatheism

Am I crazy or is he AI generating his comics now?

>>713600237
The entire argument is deterministic.
>>713600273
Don't forget they wouldn't side with humanity against the Host of Heaven.

god's real as hell my dudes

he loves jokes

dude's really funny

>>713600341
God being omnipotent is deterministic how exactly? Omniscience, sure, that can be linked to it, but not omnipotence.

>>713600072
>*burb* I know... I know what dogs think, Morty!
>I even built a translator in that one episode, because I'm a fucking genius!

>>713600489
Omnipotence does include choosing not to act.

>>713600123
>>713600252

If you are pressed for time read the sermon on the mount, it summarizes and is a condensed guide that Jesus provides as a first lesson. After that if what he says is making sense read one of the gospels, if you start with matthew just skip the geneaology at the start, then the other 3 gospels, then read the OT or letters. I was an atheist for majority of my adult life as well. Born and raised scientific skeptic, realized science and skepticism is not incompatible with faith in Jesus. In fact that's one of the first lies of the enemy is to make you think you have to pick. You dont because science does not have all the answers, and a lot of the things we need to be skeptical of is what gets passed as "science" these days.

>>713600489
You can't be omnipotent without being omniscient

>>713591528
He actually said this

>>713600072
The Bible calls people who should've known better "fools" regardless of education.

>>713600572
lol
lmao even

>>713600572
Have the science falsely so called verse memorized.

So does God have a Disasters tab?

AT LEAST HE'S ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY
WHAT DO YOU APART FROM SHITPOST AND LOOK AT STUPID ASS PICTURES ALL DAY AND JACK OFF TO NAKED DRAWN JAPANESE PEOPLE

Daily reminder that the one thing that saves you, according to the most popular religions, is gullibility.

>>713600776
Faith and IQ share the same brain region.

>>713600546
What does that have to do with my point? I never said that God SHOULD send multiple Jesuses down. I've only said that it's objectively not a sacrifice. It's just that he CAN do it if he wants to.
>>713600594
True, but omniscience doesn't necessarily mean that there's no free will anyway. Has nothing to do with the point anyway

>>713590670 (OP)
>sinfest
I thought this dipshit went full JQ Trump-worship mode. Did the honey moon end? Did he start to realize what a fucking useful idiot he is?

>>713600831
A human willingly choosing death over the easy way out is peak.

>>713600870
He's fucking batshit and his ideology is incomprehensible. As best anyone can tell he's gone full Nordic ethno-nationalist anti-semite despite being a gook.

>>713600897
Because we are made in the image of our creator and that's what the father does, no wonder his children admires the same trait.

>Adam and Eve eat the forbidden fruit
>Easy way out is to just wipe em and start over completely like you already warned them how it would lead to death
>Love your creations so much you dont do that and instead work with them to eventually lead them back to paradise

Suffering builds character.

>>713596887
>fedoratippers are ayckshually secret jews
>and jews are secretly satanists
are you still doing the "atheism is also a religion" shtick too?

>>713601190
Actually the easy way would be making humans that do NOT eat the forbidden fruit. Or just not having the forbidden fruit at all. Or not having the snake there... God knew that they'll do it and that he'll have to wipe them out.

Perfect thread to ask. I'm non-Christian and I mean no offense, just curious. Is there a solution to this paradox?

>>713600273
you christkikes have murdered more europeans throughout history than muslims did. literally half of europe was forcefully converted.
don't flatter yourself faggot, you're as dangerous as any other brownoid. but thankfully you're dying out now

>>713601365
you don't need to go this complex. just ask a christian if god can create a rock he can't lift

>>713598573
They were not trying to kill the Angels. Technically what they wanted to do was worse.

>>713597328
If your powerlevel is high enough to see christianity's roots in greek philosophy, as well as old testament being a "series of bronze age stories", you're getting called a heathen everywhere except /his/ regardless. If you are a legit theologian interested in discussing history and culture that shaped a religion, then it seems kind of silly to dunk on people who are actively dismissing religion as a concept.

>>713601365
The often cited one I see is first ask why would a perfect God even create an universe to begin with.

Ultimately it all circles back to as humans comprehending the mind of God is impossible, so to judge him with human logic is just silly.

Imagine an ai in a game thinking the programmer is also limited by the karma score system he programmed all npcs to have. The system doesnt even exist irl and is vastly more complex of a subject than the simplified game one yet the ai npc wouldnt be able to grasp this concept.

>>713601365
No, every explanation is pure cope. The amount of suffering in the world goes way past 'testing' or 'dealing with consequences'.
Also, if you want a funny example of bad things and free will, read about God hardenining pharaoh's heart.

>>713591528
/v/irgins still fuming about Rick and Morty in 2025 lmao

>>713595763
I’m afraid your post is too high IQ for most atheistcucks to process. They’ll just read your post, get confused, get angry, and start throwing insults

>>713601582
He's probably just regurgitating shit he saw on Youtube, anon. In fairness to him that's still more learning than most people ever bother with, but knowing some basic shit about the roots of Abrahamic religion doesn't make someone a scholar or anything.

>>713596887
because atheists are kike slaves.

>>713596713
Old Testament God was still a little fresh. He didn't really get into the groove of it til the whole Jesus thing.

>>713591528
i look nothing like this and i say this

>>713601587
>why would a perfect God even create an universe to begin with.
to make a world full of creatures that are happy to exist
>comprehending the mind of God is impossible, so to judge him with human logic is just silly.
we are created in his image and are supposed to be as close to him as possible to be happy
so why is it that god is actually not a good person according to the rules that he gave us?

>>713591643
hahaha god damn it anon

>>713596887
Do you notice it when they do, or do you just assume it's a fellow based deus vult crustader saying it?

>>713601365
"Evil" does not exist. Or rather, not in the way that you think it does. What mortals perceive as evil is, ultimately, immaterial. What mortals perceive as love is just as immaterial. The divine operates so far above us and our frame of reference is so small that we literally cannot adequately comprehend such concepts.
It is like asking a housefly to understand criminal law.

>>713601831
>to make a world full of creatures that are happy to exist
sounds fuckin stupid as hell mane

>shalom pagan goyim, since you are christians now I will be taking your former offerings to Odin and Thor as taxes now. Oy vey, think how much it will contribute to the economy instead of throwing resources away to appeal to some superstitious garbage am I right? Don't forget to tip
Europeans got kiked to death.

>>713590670 (OP)
Why is Tats such a fucking nutter

>>713601901
>erm 2deep4u

>>713596938
They do? Just because you have compassion for them doesn't mean you allow yourself to be ideologically defeated by them, though.

>>713597161
He's just legitimately schizo.

I heckin love nondenominational Christianity

>>713602085
this but unironically

>>713595763
>I'm spiritual

>>713601667
>barebones normie version of the Free Will Defense
>high iq

>>713601396
>you christkikes have murdered more europeans throughout history than muslims did. literally half of europe was forcefully converted.
You are the biggest retard who has ever existed in this thread. Really think of history before you speak bullshit.

>>713602085
Yes, and?
I vastly prefer a soft theist who wants to do good because Jesus would want that over an atheist who appeals to Christianity to get what he wants

>>713602085
Simple as

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[c] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[d] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

>>713601964
he is an individual who does not fit into any one political "team". his beliefs are internlly consistant, even if they align with no one. as he further explores the implications of his beliefs, he grows further and further removed from common discourse and decrys all movements and figure heads. people say he flip flops but he never abandons his old beliefs, only piles on new. his feminism made him transphobic, an his transphobia made him anti semitic, but he never stopped being a feminist. i'm excited to see where the rabbit hole goes next. he's boumd to have some kind of breakthrough/down.

>>713591702
Exactly. Sinfest is a comic where God and the Devil canonically exist and interact with the main characters. Of course the world itself is fictional, but having a fictional character from that fictional world call something that's reality to them "a fairy tale" is retarded.

>>713602317
2/10

>>713601901
>Evil" does not exist
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these"

>>713602737
he didnt say that

>>713602085
If there was a god who gives a fuck about humanity but never shows that he is real, it would make sense if he liked when people try to be good, instead of only liking people who were lucky enough to follow one particular religion out of the gorillion possible choices.

>>713602772
>instead of only liking people who were lucky enough to follow one particular religion out of the gorillion possible choices.
romans 2:15
everyone knows whos the real god, bro, u just gotta focus

>>713601453
>I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

>The God that explained clearly how he already breaks the rules of mere human logic will surely be limited by my simple logic trap

You couldve just asked how God can simultaneously be first and last, beginning and the end, but that wouldve made it too obvious youre just an ignorant agitator i guess.

i cant tell if apologists itt are trolling or what
its like you guys only reply to the weakest points and try to deflect or ignore everything else

>>713602994
First day on the internet?

>>713602836
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbNnsiP4Rhg

>>713602932
>God that explained clearly how he already breaks the rules of mere human logic
Oh ok so god can both be god and not be god at the same time and he can both exist and not exist at the same time. So when people say god doesn't exist they are correct right?
Thanks for proving you christkikes are literally mentally retarded and don't respond to logic or reason. There can be only one solution for a rabid dog.

>>713591528
I remember this episode.

>>713590670 (OP)
do bible stories have to be true though? isn't what's the important the values you gain from them?

>>713604117
it gets problematic when you have to choose whats real and whats a metaphore

>>713604117
>do bible stories have to be true though?
If they aren't, then who cares? It's just Aesop's fables but not as good.

If Jesus wasn't magical, he didn't really do or say anything worthwhile. Most of it was telling people how the world would end and he was the only person who could help them go to flying Jerusalem in the afterlife. He has to be important and full of magic powers or everything he did just falls flat and is punctuated by being easily killed by the police.

>>713601964
seems like he's just increasingly right

>>713591528
I'm glad I have never seen his slop. Imagine watching this trash lol. KYS if you have ever seen this show

>>713590670 (OP)
I'm just going say it: I have liked Tatsuya since 2000 and never stopped. He only got better with age.

>>713601203
well nuscience HAS become a religion where criticism isn't allowed and you have to blindly follow the (((experts)))

omfg did someone just.... insinuate that the magical sky kike is not real????? /polsisters I'm literally shaking.... how dare these le heccin Rick and morterino fedora toppers do us like this?

>Wonderland
>Greek myth
>Norse myth
>Fairy tales
>Probably a couple other short ones I'm forgetting
He's just been repeating literally the exact same sequence of events over and over again with a different theme each time for like 2 years now.