Abandon path of exile 2 and come back to Diablo people!
https://youtu.be/n_pnCwG2vSk?si=urHdkKQ2TgROor0G

>>713591230 (OP)
>every fucking reward on the premium battle pass
Go fuck yourself.

If I'm playing diablo, it sure a fug isn't d4. I'll play median XL or d2r lol

D3 is more fun

Hello Diablo Marketer. Maybe you can get some information to the Developers.

Your skill tree is boring.
To call it a Skill Tree is also wrong. It's like... a Skill Twig. Or Stick. Everyone looks almost identical. It's so fucking boring. There is no thought put into it. Rework it entirely.
Also - Fuck you and your gay Spirit Caller Class or whatever it was. It should have been a Paladin / Crusader. Now it is extremely unlikely I will purchase the future Paladin DLC you will inevitably make.

>>713591230 (OP)
Blessed mother... save us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRHvq50fwCM

>>713591360
It was definitely gay this season. The free Berserk shit was okay, but I also whaled for the pay skins.

>D3 is better than D4 and they dont support either
>PoE is better than PoE 2 and they dont support either
>Last Sleepoch is garbage
>Grim Yawn is dead
If Titan Quest II sucks dick - ARPGs are officially dead

>>713592096
>>D3 is better than D4
fucking grim
Isn't Grim Dawn getting that new sexy barbarian lady xpac? Or did that happen already and I missed it?

>>713592096
>PoE is better than PoE 2 and they dont support either
POE 1 just had a new league come out.

>>713591230 (OP)
>play blizzard troon shit "arpg" wow with top down camera without builds and items where you just get higher ilevel to do same exact shit you did at leavel1 but with 1000000000000000000x damage multiplier
yeah no
>>713592096
poe1 just got new major league and while meta is same stale fucking shit from the last one and most of the sthi still overnerfed useless it at least has new gimmick in form of mercs and new atlas xpansion. it would take blizzard 10years to release same amount of content.

>>713591489
they dont give a fuck about feedback otherwise their games wouldnt be so goddamn awful

>>713591230 (OP)
>premium shitpass on already overpriced game
>after 2 years and 1 xpac game still doesn't know what it want to be
>new season is either a big fix that should be thre day1 or another borrowed powers recolor
look, this time the "new" powers are kinda arcane looking! unlike purple-witch, or vampire red, or sme construct blue

>>713592252
Fangs of Asterkarn has been delayed through feature creep. Expect it in 2026.

>>713592470
PoE is exactly the same shit lmao
>your single click isn't proccing two dozen effects that kill everything? you're playing it wrong you blizzcuck!

>>713592470
>top down
Imagine being dumb.

>>713591230 (OP)
have they removed the mmorpg hub world? do i still have to slog slow travel through said world to get to dungeons and end game events?

it's just D3 with a coat of paint and more shit that deliberately wastes your time

>>713592712
>slow travel
>when you can run across the world in under 2 minutes
You can teleport directly to dungeons, but without a group member at an event, you have to go to the nearest waypoint and spend a few seconds traveling.

>>713592719
it's actually insulting to compare d3 to d4
even d3 greater rifts have more depth and strategy put into it that d4 one
>>713592635
nope, while you can fight if poe/grim dawn/whatever other game is better, d4 have no standing here. It's like group of big boys talking about cars and then toddler in form of d4 comes pretending to fit in

>>713592635
poe isnt exact same shit because it has mods like +proj and I can name at least 10 other ones which make skills fill mechanically completely different, which are uncapped and dont have some arbitrary shitty restrictions hardcaps on them to cut as much as possible on server cost.
>>713592678
its isometric. does it change it much?

>>713592823
>my dead game is better than your thriving one

haven't played it yet
is there a lore explanation to what happened to D3's protagonist? that mf was stronger than gods
how many years have passed between 3 and 4? because from the videos i saw it feels like civilization regressed

>>713592858
i prefer good dead game than 'alive" shit
a lot of odler games are offline only/you play it solo
your 'alive" d4 only adds more fps drops when loading into the game or teleporting

>blizzardsloppa
no

>>713592858
d4 is a dead game

>>713592823
>>713592826
>NO YOU'RE WRONG YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROC TWO DOZEN EFFECTS SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO USE TWO SKILLS THAT PROC A DOZEN EACH

>>713592858
>thriving
I gave d4 another try a few months ago and saw ZERO people in the overworld while leveling 1-50 or whatever

>>713592858
it's a single player game, what does it matter if its alive or dead? the alive game is getting more premium battle pass shit? wow

>>713592903
>fps drops
From 165 to 163? Oh, the humanity!
>>713592915
>doesn't know the difference between sloppa and slop
Common problem among ESLs.
>>713592950
Dead how? Tons of active players? Bringing in assloads of money in the shop?
>>713592971
>not on Torment
That's why. 1-60 and a Pit 30 clear is all of an hour of work.

>two more weeks until Blizzard dies

>>713592858
>games stop existing the moment they "die"

>>713592970
>incoherent seethe which has nothing to do with argument
ok you lost

>>713593020
how do whales buying dresses from the mtx shop improve my game experience

>>713593036
All 5 of us playing PoO know they're already dead.

>>713593020
what must happen to a man to become like this?

>>713592878
around 50 years or more passed. The main NPC was a youngster in d3 standing next to tyrael in adventure mode. In d4 he's old and bitter
As story, game have a good atmosphere, it's grimdark, everythign is rotting and depressing, humanity is left alone and with no nephalems(demon-angel hybrids) there's none to actually protect them from some giga demons
but then, you can constantly see how shallow writting is, like people wrote the story and world as a grimdark non-diablo game. You have a priest of rathma, commonly called necromancer, enter ratham's tomb and find his dead body that was alive hours/days ago and not a single comment, while from d2, d3 and books rathma is liek holy grail to necromancers and his items are used as legendary relics
there's nothign about nephalem from d3 tho, maybe he sits somewhere else in the world not interested in what's happening. Like he cnnot be everywhere
>>713593020
dude, d4 is bad, stop with that cope already, you're not fooling anyone

>>713593020
dead game

>>713592096
dont you worry, they added a dodge roll to titan quest 2!

what killed it?

Niggas be jealous.

>>713593020
mobile shit cash grabs game have also shitton of players
yet still those games are mostly predatory shit cashgrabs
you're plying a literal lvie service game disguised as one, since you cannot even come with actual good gameplay feature outside mmuh fucking mtx lmao

I'm genuinely surprised at the level of vanilla these seasons are. Nothing risky. Nothing exciting. Here's some basic powers. Here's a slight modification of a mechanic that doesn't really do anything innovative

They refuse to take chances and swing big on new systems and mechanics

They have ten plus years of poe leagues to steal from

They could do a season like blight. Or delve. Or harvest. Or betrayal. Or heist. Or legion. Etc etc etc

They could lift all of these ideas and repackage them or God forbid improve on them

Instead they choose to do the least amount as possible. It's infuriating. At this point it has to be a project lead issue and possible a team talent issue.

D4 has completely fallen behind even last epoch who was on life support until they released an extremely bold and innovative league to bring that game back from the brink.

At this point between poe1 and 2 and last epoch. I don't see where d4 fits in. It's the same game with zero innovation.

>>713593168
need to farm easy money by using legendary title while having much better competition, unreachable legacy of d2 and no idea how to make a good game instead of another money farming plan off retarded drones
just a reminder that collector edition of the game doesn't have the game itself

>>713593213
>game is a success
>autists bitch about it not being complex enough
>casual dads bitch about not being smart enough to play
>Blizzard does nothing
>wins

>>713593213
>borrowed power
>change color
it's like every other season past 2 at this point and then I bet you farm some shit like helltides
even their fuckign seasons are constant reskins

>>713592096
>D3 is better than D4 and they dont support either
D3 is the Antichrist of ARPGs
>PoE is better than PoE 2 and they dont support either
false, PoE is still getting content
but yes PoE2 sucks ass
>Last Sleepoch is garbage
it's a 'casual' ARPG done right without being too dumb
>Grim Yawn is dead
literally the best ARPG around, and with budget a fraction of any of the above games

Development of 4 is just one giant shitshow. The original revealed version was embarrassingly bad with even more dumbed down and worse itemization than launch 3 and barely any stat or skill tree systems, but then they appointed a director that actually engaged with the audience and started to overhaul the game, adding in stats and skill trees and kept revising the systems to make them better, but then he got fired or left during the blizzard rape, suicide and breast milk scandal and the new team for 4 just duct taped the existing scraps into a bare bones game and now have no real vision for what they want the game to be.

>>713591230 (OP)
Still a heavily gear dependant and build game, at least with poe2 i can use the trade site if i need to quickly change some things

>>713593213
needs less boring cosmetic
has blizzard noticed seasons don't bring money so they stopped caring?

>>713593296
how much they pay you per hour?

>>713593230
>just a reminder that collector edition of the game doesn't have the game itself
Imagine being a liar. I guess you don't have to.
>>713593321
It was originally going to be a soulslike. I'm glad they avoided foreign influence.

>>713593296
strangely enough even my 45-year-old gamerdad brother switched to poe2

>>713593036
Haven't seen the news? Xbox having layoffs soon.

>>713593296
>casual dads
casual dads, this mysterious and apparently giant playerbase, has ruined MH Wilds, destiny 2 and aoe

>>713593346
>Imagine being a liar. I guess you don't have to.
I'll ask again, how much do they pay you?
fast google
https://gamerant.com/diablo-4-collectors-edition-no-game-included/

>>713593213
>I don't see where d4 fits in.
For me personally, PoE1&2 are the games I sink the most hours into when I really feel like playing an ARPG. Last Epoch in turn is there when I get tired of PoE or just want something different. Diablo 4 is a quick weekend or 3 day break to complete the season journey and to play a really casual ARPG. Grim Dawn is the eternal wait for the expansion.

>>713593213
this feels like content coming from a game approaching end of service
like d3 level content 5 years ago

>>713593346
>Imagine being a liar. I guess you don't have to.
Imagine being a fuckign shitzard drone for free and lying yourself faggot
https://us.support.blizzard.com/en/article/334175
>This is a collector's box only, and does not include a game code.
what a DUMB FAGGOT LMAO, how much was the collector box again? 99$?

>>713593346
There's a lot of rumours and hearsay about early Diablo 4 being a soulslike or a Warframe clone but not much concrete evidence behind them, so I focused only on what had been explicitly revealed.

>>713593342
>state absolute truths
>it must be a shill campaign
There's no question D4 is the most successful ARPG out there. Bitch about quality all you want, but it's winning, and shows no signs of failing to do so in the forseeable future. It's like watching Mr. Magoo stumble his way to victory because everyone else sucks THAT BAD.

its fine, another "skip and wait for the game to improve" expansion
any day now!!

>>713593458
honestly even D3 seasons are more exciting because they're so over the top, D4 seasons seem like 10% of the time went into the actual mechanic and rest of development was spent on cosmetics

>>713593458
Crazy how quickly fell off compared to D3.

too many poe shills on /v/. i hope they don't get paid in australian dollars

>>713593424
>>713593512
>Diablo 4 Collector's Box
>makes no indication of it being a collector's edition of D4
Did you buy a PS5 box on eBay?

>>713593525
how much per hour

>>713593525
this is the type of nigga that bought the $70 WoW mount to dab on the haters

>>713593525
being a shill would be 100 times less embarrassing than what you are doing now man
just take a look at the posts you posted in this thread
not even moderators on the d4 subreddit would behave like that come on

>>713593582
yes, google is hard to use where box/edition means the exact same aka box with collectibles and whatever other shit
but this time, without a game, you fuckign shitzard cuck
for real how much do they pay you subhuman shit

>>713593596
Honestly, people that are this deep in sunk costs fallacies are so pitiable, much more than paid shills imho

>be poefag
>spend more time with D4 than with poe
lmao

>>713591230 (OP)
I haven't played Diablo in a while, what's with recent ARPGs and these 'subsystems'? Like I am supposed to get excited for >blood piss-infused relic crystals? What about Paladin or Crusader?

PoE has the exact same shit as if it's supposed to mean something, or get excited about.

>>713593525
ok sure whatever
but where can I apply to get money from shitposting here

>>713593313
>hating D3 in 2025

>>713593597
So refute it. Name an ARPG with revenue approaching D4.
>b-but popularity isn't quality!
I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying it's the most successful ARPG currently, and nothing approaches it in that metric.
>s-shill! it's not true
So show me.
>>713593669
With D4, it's a seasonal mechanic. They generally amount to about the same concept each season, but with a different coat of paint, and making different builds work better or worse.

>>713593669
gotta give the whales some reason to come back and buy a $20 armor cosmetic

>>713593549
D3 fell off quicker though. The game entered maintenance mode before Reaper of Souls, and after RoS failed, they left a skeleton crew to recycle scrapped expansion content into free updates and to create the most bare bones seasonal mechanics imaginable.

>>713591230 (OP)
So, you STILL don't fight Diablo in this Diablo game?

>>713593774
>no wolves or steins in Wolfenstein
unplayable

you know the game is dead when youtube videos from d4 content creators have 4 digit views, and when the main subreddit (whose moderators are blizzard employees) is constantly shitting on the game
seriously, it's a dead sub with 100 online users and top posts have fewer than 800 upvotes

>>713593654
I bought d4 day1, due to sunken cost fallacy i played each season
I enjoyed only oen with item rework and vampire theme
Tried 2 seasons after xpac launched, didn't buy the xpac, couldn't lvl to 50 due to how boring game is
yes, I'm a retard, but at least it was the last and final time i got baited by nostalgia
people that defend this shit are for sure paid marketers, retard who did the same as me and do this as defensive mechanism, or straight up retards who only play shitzard games whole life and never tried any other game due to braindead brand cultism

>>713593774
We haven't even fought Mephisto proper yet.

>>713591230 (OP)
did they just release a dlc literally called "sins of christian equivalents" and expect the old school fans to come back?

>>713593723
>So refute it. Name an ARPG with revenue approaching D4.
>>b-but popularity isn't quality!
>I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying it's the most successful ARPG currently, and nothing approaches it in that metric.
>>s-shill! it's not true
>So show me.
nigger what are you even schizoing about? i just said that you defending this crap game is more pathetic than being a shill
never said anything about being successful or not
and you are doing it again without realizing it

>>713593723
>revenue
Raid: shadow legend faggot, and multiple otehr mobile games. Well, diablo immortal overtakes d4 heavily
it's a shit metric shitzarddrone, but again you palyed yourself

>>713593805
>poefag admits he visits reddit regularly
oh lol

>>713593774
you don't want to fight bosses in d4 considering how they do a boss battles

>>713593815
>people that defend this shit are for sure paid marketers
no thats the point, the anon defending the game ITT is not a paid shil
he's a fan

>>713593882
People here admit to being redditors and jews regularly. Apparently it's bad to be a goy, because r/l'chaim says so.

>>713593710
yeah well, what can I say, I am a spiteful bastard.

>>713593882
never played poe or any other arpg other than Titan Quest 1 in my life
(TQ1 sub is more alive than d4's btw)

so let me summarize the thread
>Diablo 4 is dead because I feel it is!
>PoE 2 is better because I feel it is!
>Blizzard is on death's door because I feel it is!
>Everyone hates Blizzard and Diablo because /v/ said it, so it must be true!

>>713591360
Aren't these all cosmetic? Who gives a shit? Go play barbie dress up if you care about cosmetics you gay lord.

>>713593882
>mmuh peofag argument
imagine, that unlike you, shitzard drone, you can have an opinion without being a braindead cultist

>>713592252
>sexy barbarian
oh you mean the lady with the clearly visible tits that casts a cleavage shadow but they still went and blurred the cleavage with vaseline? yeah I have great hopes for that dlc thats for sure.

>>713593882
>no discussion in youtube
>no discussion in /v/ or /vg/
>no discussion on reddit
where is the thriving d4 community?

>>713591230 (OP)
>nigger shows up in the first 8 seconds
Why are western devs like this?

>>713593984
It has to be thriving if you're so angry that you come into D4 threads every time they're posted to shill...not playing games?

>>713593960
you played the shittiest arpg in existence lmao

>>713593980
>>713593984
>WE ARE REDDITORS AND PROUD, BLIZZARDKEK

almost done with my fury druid plugy playthrough

>>713593965
as per majority of arpg thread
you can come and talk/shittalk about your arpg etc.
if you wanna talka bout d4, suddenly everyone in those threads ask you to kindly leave
you're free yo enjoy and eat shit, but average person don't do that and in general don't wanna have anything to do with you

https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo4/top/?t=month
kek the absolute state
even blizzardfags are shitting on the game
youtubers jumped to D3, POE or similar garbage ahah

>>713593965
no, your d4 shit simply doesn't qualify to join big boys arpg discussion
even wolcen passes simply because you can at least discuss something. Meanwhile you, a d4 shill, cannot discuss even good parts of the game(there's none) instead shitting on every other game

>>713594023
>sins
>black guy
Do you not understand how based that is? Also, it's about Donan and his son, since it brings back Astaroth.
>>713594065
How is that site not blocked by your firewall?

>>713594059
>redditor poefags are also obsessed with eating shit
of course lol

>>713594031
>come to d4 thread to see if it's worth playing yet
>0 posts about the actual gameplay with builds or loot
;_;

>>713593983
they haven't shied away from boobas though

>>713594136
Season's basically over, so there's not much to discuss. D4 threads have more mechanical discussion when new seasons launch, since there's talk about what builds are best for what.

>>713591230 (OP)
Until the game gets a major, major overhaul, with an emphasis on fun and endgame content I will not be playing that boring shit again. Eat shit!

Diablo Immortal is better than Diablo 4. Diablo Immortal has added loads of new classes, dungeons, raids, items, zones and events for free since launch.

Why is d4 the only ARPG you can't discuss in here? Yeah there's banter between PoE1 and 2 fans, or Grim Yawn and d2 boomers, but there's proper hate against D4

>>713594128
is that redditor poefag in room with you?
also
>only time in past 2 years when diablo 4 thread reches 50+ posts is when everyone shits at it
LMAO

>>713594179
I wish bnet showed total played hours. I know I'm over 2000 now.

>>713594209
D4 is everything that's wrong with modern vidya development

>stop playing this bad game
>instead, play this othe bad game
hahahaahhahaha NO

>>713594179
>played for 500+ hours

>>713594128
just asking
do you play wow by any chance? on a vulpera charatcer?

>>713594174
>D4 threads have more mechanical discussion
can you show them to me?
i have the feeling it's just you and maybe 2 other blizzard lunatics in those threads

>>713594209
It requires you to buy it and can't be played offline. When a game can't be pirated (that reason or Denuvo), seething is nonstop.

>>713593975
most retarded post itt
there's a reason why every game now has dlc/microtransaction/battle pass cosmetics, it's because most people want their characters to look cool
go back to playing your ugly troon protagonists

>>713594237
come home, white man

>>713594209
It's a bad game. Why would you coddle it?

>>713594257
oh my god you're not a blizzard paid shill... you're a whale? thats so much worse jesus

>>713594253
Threads last a few days, and I'm not searching the archives. Watch when S9 starts. There's also a 4chan clan, but I never joined it.

>>713594209
Poorfag thirdies seething because they can't afford the game, the battlepass and cosmetics

>>713593965
Why doesn't D4 have a general on /vg/ then?

>>713594318
even at season start threads barery get any discussion, dying below or around 50 posts you lying piece of shit
you can easily check archive for that

>>713594298
is that project diablo 2? i saw mrllamas video on it, is it difficult to get into? is it possible to pirate d2r and then play pd2?

Dropped the game because the loot was bad and boring
Huge flow for a loot game

>>713594370
It's a very shallow and shitty game. There is nothing to discuss.

>>713594295
>there's a reason why every game now has dlc/microtransaction/battle pass cosmetics, it's because most people want their characters to look cool
The only tranny here is you. Battlepass cosmetics require absolutely zero skill to aquire, its a grind designed for cattle. Go play barbie dress up you fucking gay lord.
Meanwhile, I get free gameplay updates without spending a penny.

>>713594152
those dlcs are a decade apart my man

>>713594370
There was until like s4
after that there was couple of attempt but it was dying with 20 posts in
there was also attempt with banding it together with d2 and d3 but it was 99% d2 online mods talks like path of diabloe, median and project d2

>paying to grind for cosmetics

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=diablo%204&sp=CAMSBAgFEAE%253D
diablo 4 videos from the last 12 months, sorted by most viewed
i think that speaks for itself really

>>713594248
>vulp
asking again, since that defensive stance and instantly using othr games as defensive lines remind me of recently outed zoophile

>>713594440
this shit was my jam

>entire genre ruined by microtransactions
impressive

>>713594448
fuck

>>713591230 (OP)
https://vocaroo.com/1VL1fVVCMTo5

>>713594409
>is that project diablo 2?
yes
>is it difficult to get into?
nah, it's just D2++ unlike an overhaul like median
>is it possible to pirate d2r and then play pd2?
you need the original D2 client (version 1.14D I think), mod devs tell you not to pirate but I reckon it's just for legal reasons so blizz doesn't nuke them

>>713594440
thanks for being a schizo and going off on your own rant instead of disagreeing with anything i said

>playing d4 after spirit born
Let me chew it for for retards.
The fact that spirit born was dealing 100 trillion damage while every other class was capped at 1 trillion (with perfect gear) WAS NOT A BUG. They deliberately designed it this way to force players into buying 40$ dlc class.
They are going to do same with other dlc classes. Expect paladin/witch doctor/monk dlcs to have a """"""""""bug""""""""" that allows those classes to be 100x times stronger then existing classes. Players are being milked like fucking cattle by nuBlizzard.
JUST STOP

>>713594448
Because they never wanted to make the 3rd one but I guess plans change once you run out of money.

How can you play Pablo 4( Diablo 3 but worse)? What's wrong with people?

>>713594526
That's a terrible impersonation. You have to do Sean Connery doing an impression of Jimmy Stewart.

I like the game, its fun but I'm just really fucking bored of this power-of-the-week shit they have going on. It's boring as shit, woo I get to shoot another spell that I can obtain and modify. Fucking great. Not to mention their inability to actually balance the game because they're so fucking terrified of the vocal minority.

Blizzard does not know how to make a Diablo game or an ARPG. Blizzard North did.

>>713594554
>instead of disagreeing with anything i said
You said
>there's a reason why every game now has dlc/microtransaction/battle pass cosmetics, it's because most people want their characters to look cool
I said
>The only tranny here is you. Battlepass cosmetics require absolutely zero skill to aquire, its a grind designed for cattle. Go play barbie dress up you fucking gay lord.
>Meanwhile, I get free gameplay updates without spending a penny.
It objectively and completely decimates you 'retort' and now you're eternally raped and crying about it. I accept your concession.

>>713594589
>100 trillion
Oh, you sweet summer child. Some guy on Sanctuary posted quintillions, too.

Have they fixed Druid yet?

>>713594634
They're still suffering PTSD from the backlash of the first patch that nerfed a bunch of stuff, so they're instead laser focused on PLAYER POWER. That, and the have 0 vision and creativity for actual content.

>>713594645
>who cares about cosmetics
>everyone wants their characters to look cool that's why dlc cosmetics exist in every game
>YEAH BU-BUH NO SKILL TROON BARBIE NO SKILL
wow yeah i see your argument now retard

>live service trash
No, thank you.

>>713594703
>Still no retort
Still accept your concession.

>>713594295
I have an idea
make the base game gear look cool instead of charging extra for it

>>713594685
Shred has been on and off viable, and there was some build that was S tier this season, but Druid wasn't up for my rotation and I skipped it.

>>713594703
He raped you. Keep coping.

>>713594645
SAAAAAAAAR

>>713591230 (OP)
I kept falling asleep while playing D4. The only other time this happened was when I played ffxiv

>>713594748
>>713594740
This is pathetic dude.
whales worse than shills confirmed

>>713594764
M'AAAAAAAM BUY THE CATTLEPASS M'AAAAAM
>>713594803
>Still no retort
Still accept your concession.

>>713594510
ok seems like I nailed it
>>713526635
above post as reference
yesterday wowfag outed some zoophile/zoosadist constantly making wow threads and posting same defensive lines as one in this d4 thread. Other anons said that he tried to start a flamewar with bethesta and ff generals on /vg/
his posts are nearly identical, but this time instead of implying ff/wow classic to anyone who hates retail wow, now he implies plebbit/poe to anyone hating on d4
I might overthink it, but how he types in both of these threads, like the fuck

>>713594740
you never had one in the first place esl-kun

>>713594803
Not as bad as goys. I hate goys, and I'm certainly not one.

>>713594514
it really is. what made ARPGs so uniquely vulnerable to being converted into mobile game ports? which other genres are vulnerable to this kind of semitic degradation?

>>713594065
Literally the only aspect of Diablo that's still getting praise are the cinematics, so...the unplayable aspect.

>>713591230 (OP)
this is the best trailer they've released for any of the seasons

>>713594746
I just want a Human-form druid to be viable and I'm tired of Cataclysm in everything :(

>saaar redeem the battle pass saarr

>>713594645
what the fuck does people wanting to look cool have to do with skill you esl faggot

>>713594545
got it, thanks anon. one more question, how's multiplayer? do they have their own servers, can i play on lan or what?

>>713594863
Which are literally the worst part. Blizzard couldn't write or hire actors to save their lives. They're almost (but not quite) as bad as Rockstar.

Garbage company, garbage fucking game. They censored Diablo 2. That's never going away. The damage they have done is literally forever. Fuck them. Fuck blizzard and the double nigger faggots giving them their time and money. Never ever getting a dime from me. Go bankrupt and sink into oblivion faggot.

>>713594821
>>Still no retort
>Still accept your concession.
You are under the impression that everyone that is replying to you is the same single anon. I'm not the guy you are having the argument with for example.
Maybe you are projecting since you are samefagging real hard in this thread.
Im just calling out how pathetic your behavior is, im not the one arguing about cosmetics with you.

>>713594803
i never even said to buy the battle pass i just said that cosmetics exist because people want to look cool and now he's having a schizo melty

>>713594834
tower defence/arcade games in general
arpg are easy to monetize, you jsut place a difficult obstacle and option to get past it by spending money
some basic strategy games/builders, where building takes real time to complete, and you can buy resources to speed it up

>>713594619
hey, it could've been another shitpost. it gets points for effort.
also i can kind of hear the sean connery

>>713594946
The idea of there being paywalled cosmetics causes people with no self control to FLIP THE FUCK OUT because those cosmetics must be purchased.

>>713594893
they have their own servers you can pick from

>>713594946
he also thinks everyone that is replying to his posts is the same anon... im not even following the discussions he's having with others desu

>>713594891
Because you're paying to grind (not do something of skill) to unlock cosmetics. There's nothing cool about paying to grind for a skin you fucking retard. Cattlepass skins are nothing more than a cattlebrand.
>>713594937
>Still no retort
Still accept your concession.

>>713595021
>>Still no retort
>Still accept your concession.
It's literally not me dude what the hell

>>713594667
these damage numbers were getting retarded enough in D3.

>>713593213
Nice reddit post, faggot.

>>713595064
>Still no concession
Still accept your retort.

>>713595101
grim, but also
how did YOU know?
>blizzard GoyWhaleShill that just spent hours calling Poe fags redditors is the actual redditor
can't make this shit up

>PoE 2
>when you kill something it goes URGH and falls down in a ragdoll

>Diablo 4
>when you kill something it screams in agony and depending on your attacks it will either have its skin explode, burn into a crispy skeleton, melt in a puddle, shatter in icy chunks, have its flesh dissolve by acid or simply chopped into two or more pieces

killing in D4 is so much more enjoyable it's not even funny

>>713594987
not that anon but the problem with paywall cosmetics for me is that they don't exist in a vacuum. it's like on-disk/day 1 dlc for me. it's something that would've been in the baseline game at every other point in history but because everything sucks now, the assets are set aside explicitly to be sold separately - and at unreasonable prices at that. there's no value for the consumer there; just the opposite, in fact, because value is extracted from the game in order to make that happen.

>>713595064
>It's literally not me dude what the hell

>>713595101
see
>>713593882

>>713595106
at least summarize the 2 sides of the argument then ill try to write something

>>713595163
yeah, maybe, but its all style no substance in D4

>>713594152
You're posting the wrong version.

>>713595176
>>713595064
Imagine being such a schizo
You're the only same fag in here

>>713595170
I'm surprised blizzard included any armor cosmetics in the base game when they could have had you running around naked and paying $20 for each slot of gear

>>713595170
Anon, use you brain for 3 seconds. Cosmetics now exist to fund future gameplay updates so you don't have to charge for maintenance and future gameplay updates. Cosmetics have absolutely zero value unless you're a queen who likes to play barbie dress up.
Given a choice between pay a subscription or paying nothing I'd gladly pay nothing and have whales generate the revenue.
Just play the GAME for its GAMEPLAY.

>>713594987
true, i'm glad i mostly stopped with paid cosmetics after i quit LoL ages ago
>>713595064
it's funny watching him continue to sperg out at you for my posts

>>713595101
jesus.
>>713595161
not that anon but the double spacing and shitty opinions gave it away for me. dude is asking for battlepass content lmao.

every thread about arpgs are full of pic related losers
cringest fanbase in gaming tb perfectly desu with you

>>713595224
it's certainly better than having your screen fill up with various graphical special effects to the point of blindness (this is good gameplay according to PoE sycophants)

>>713594221
Isn't there a /playtime or something in chat like WoW had?
>>713594246
I moved on to dota you tell me

>>713591230 (OP)
Let me know when they add Paladin.

>>713595170
The point is that the game has rolling content that can't be reasonably funded based on the costs of the game/DLC alone. You need a constant revenue stream. Since nothing mechanical is sold in the shop, it means that whales can just have fun playing dressup without actually harming the economy, and people can be paid to work on the seasons (as well as provide up front funding for future DLC, so it becomes less of a risky endeavor).
>>713595208
You said that Chicago style pizza is better than New York, and I maintain that as long as it's not Neopolitan, it's still good pizza.

>>713591230 (OP)
>?si=urHdkKQ2TgROor0G
thank you mossad

>>713595170
PoE is to blame for paid cosmetics.
People are running around with no pants , like it's some common grimdark thing.

>>713595306
>tracked once again
AIIIIIIEEEEE SAVE ME NIGGERMAN!!!!!!!!!!

>>713595298
No, but they added per-character playtime to the profile, and you your 8 last HC characters indexed in the Hall of Fallen Heroes, but that doesn't count ones past that 8, or characters I deleted.

>>713595170
very true, i miss when there'd be like old shooters that got you new cosmetics just for playing and leveling up instead of paying for them
but again they exist as dlc now because they're so popular with players so that's just how it's going to be most of the time now, even anons here are posting about how much they goon to fortnite skins

>>713595254
>Cosmetics now exist to fund future gameplay updates
why was this never necessary before? why is it now?
>c-cosmetics don't matter!
they wouldn't be sold if they didn't. hundreds or thousands of man hours wouldn't have been poured into the game's aesthetic presentation if that was true. fuck off with your brainlet takes.

>>713595303
then i have to agree with the other guy sorry

>>713595295
bro?

>>713591230 (OP)
sure! I'll go back to diablo 1 and 2 :D

>>713595298
>moved on to dota from D4
yeah I am sorry but it's terminal

>>713595363
What? A single lava pool is too much for you?
In PoE the entire screen would be filled by multiple blooming neon colors and shapes

>saw a d4 thread on the catalogue for the first time in 10 months
>lets read it, haven't played in a year
>wow, maybe they are discussing gameplay or showing some new raid/boss/endgame stuff
...
so this is what d4 threads are about? endless whale shill vs poe shills?

>>713595351
>why was this never necessary before? why is it now?
Because prior to this you have community fracturing DLC you fucking retard. People used to get kicked from servers because the map changed to DLC people didn't own and the server would be empty. Charging
>they wouldn't be sold if they didn't.
They don't matter you brain damaged fucking faggot. What power do you get from cosmetics?????? None, they don't affect the gameplay AT ALL. You only give value cosmetics because you want to play barbie dress up

>>713595254
>Cosmetics have absolutely zero value unless you're a queen who likes to play barbie dress up.
you're in denial, you really think it's whales alone that carry for example skins in LoL, fortnite, overwatch, marvel rivals, d4, etc? a lot of people will spend at least some money on skins even if they don't go full whale

>>713594589
the main problem is that whether you buy the dlc or not, you are not allowed to play the base game. you are constantly asked to skip the base game by redeeming the "level boost" or whatever and go straight into endgame of the dlc to grind for the battle pass.

>>713595351
>they wouldn't be sold if they didn't
AIIIIIIIEEEEEE I MUST BUY AN CONSUME ALL COSMETIC SLOPPA FROM THE STOREEE AAAAAAIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe

>>713595303
The assumption is that cosmetics will pay for the dev cost of tbe new season. Right now , cosmetics pay the cost of cosmetics design of the new season.

>>713595303
>The point is that the game has rolling content that can't be reasonably funded based on the costs of the game/DLC alone.
sounds like the classic business tactic of inventing a problem and selling the solution. nobody was clamoring for a subscription fee or battle passes while they were playing any of the previous diablo games.

>>713595460
>you really think it's whales alone that carry for example skins in LoL, fortnite, overwatch, marvel rivals, d4, etc?
Yes you fucking retard. Cattlepasses and cosmetics is LITERALLY how these companies generate their revenue for content updates instead of charging a subscription you fucking giga retard

>>713591230 (OP)
>giving activision blizzard any money
I am not mentally ill.

>>713595435
post a screenshot of yourself in-game in diablo 4.

anniversary event was so bad i finally dropped the game

>>713595329
No pants, you say?

>>713595525
I only got to level 20 or something ARPGs are fucking boring. I do play with all the default skins in Overwatch 2 if that's what you're getting at.

>>713595428
>it's okay as long as there's only 1 colour blinding you

>>713595303
>I maintain that as long as it's not Neopolitan, it's still good pizza.
Die immediately.

>>713595485
nta but back when games had only free unlockable cosmetics and no dlc cosmetics they also basically never had any regular content updates, what you bought was what you got, maybe a dlc with extra maps and weapons and stuff that you'd have to pay for
but really it just exists because people buy them and it makes a lot of money

>>713595525
>conventiently ignores every single point made

>>713595585
>BRO THE GAMEPLAY JUST ENJOY THE GAMEPLAY
>the game? oh no, i didn't play it, why?
you can't make these clowns up.

>>713595431
after that Hearthstone thing where they banned a pro player for shouting FREE HONK KONG, /v/ had a meltdown and turned against Blizzard on all fronts. Games that were considered good were retroactively shit, Blizzard was never good, you know the drill. This metastasized into magical thinking where if you think about or believe something hard enough it will come true, that's why 99% of blizzard-related discussion on /v/ is wishing death on Blizz and calling everyone blizzshills
Which is funny because neo/v/ sucks China's collective dick every chance it gets nowadays

>>713595593
if a low-brightness lava pool is blinding to you, you really need to get your eyes checked

>>713595393
I wish I had my old account to show my 6k hours on TF2 and 4k on CS:GO. I'm old, I don't care about these new unfun games. Cyberpunk and Saarfield were some of the most meh games I've ever played, FPS games are dead due to cheating faggots, RPGs are either turn based or souls based and I'm not interested, MMOs are giant dens of homosexuality, I've always hated platformers, idk what else there is for me. Having said all that Arma Reforger isn't too bad.

>>713595435
>PLEEEESE SAAAAR BUY BATTLE PASS DIABLO DIS SESON FIX, BUY PASS NOW THE GAME IS BAD CUZ U NO BUY PASS NUMBERS GO MORE BUM BUM NOW BUY PASS
Why are all Microsoft-Activision-King-Blizzard marketers like this?

Today i had the urge to play WoW but i'll get my Blizzard dose from Diablo IV

>>713595632
things that never happened
pure fanfiction

>>713595485
>sounds like the classic business tactic of inventing a problem and selling the solution.
The problem already existed. Games came out and tried selling community fracturing expansions or DLC.
>>713595629
We're talking about business models you brain damaged faggot. This isn't a Diablo 4 exclusive issue.
>>713595698
>pakiposting sandnigger can't read
I have never bought a cattlepass in my life, I don't care about cosmetics in videogames.

>>713595671
>if a blue poe spark effect is blinding you, you really need to get your eyes checked

>>713595620
what points? that "community fracturing" DLC existed? as if buying the singular lord of destruction or reaper of souls DLCs is somehow a completely different world from purchasing the new annual never ending DLCs and battlepasses for 10x the price? or was it the part where he pretended to really appreciate the gameplay while admitting he never played past level 20 (e.g. the first hour of the game)

>>713595740
hit too close to home, huh? like those bunker busters did to Iran's leadership hahah

>>713595510
oh, so you don't even know what whale means, got it

>>713595740
It's odd to see someone say that something you lived through is "pure fanfiction".

>>713591230 (OP)
Can you play offline yet?
If no, lol.

>>713595632
Bilzzard was great until like 2006 when they got involved with Ack-tivision. I had 9k hours in WoW up to WoLK.

>>713595790
Battlepasses are cosmetic, so they don't relate to DLC, which introduce classes, story arcs, and gameplay mechanics.
So, you're really only "required" to buy the DLC to keep up with everyone, and expansions have been a thing since the first Diablo and every MMO.

Fuck them for ruining IV with
>$30 premium skins ATOP the battle passes
>Premium battle pass shit (when I played there was no way to get earlier battle pass stuff if you missed it, premium or otherwise)
>a fucking exclusive horse dedicated to a boss that showed up for a 2 hour window in a beta test.
D2 and D3 had new seasonal gear continuously for free, but this basically live-serviced the fuck out of everything. Its amazing how a few years allowed Blizzard to piss away decades of goodwill and good game design, but some got worse than others.

>>713595825
How would you buy things in-game shop if you could play offline? Non sense.

>>713595435
>retarded autist having a melty because he can't understand that people like to look good
you're the target audience for games like veilguard

>>713595772
>NO U
this is why no one will ever take PoE seriously

forget it being successful or a money printer
is it good? is it fun?

>>713595874
>a fucking exclusive horse dedicated to a boss that showed up for a 2 hour window in a beta test.
It was just a mount trophy, not the mount.

>>713595790
>as if buying the singular lord of destruction or reaper of souls DLCs is somehow a completely different world from purchasing the new annual never ending DLCs and battlepasses for 10x the price?
You aren't forced to buy cattle passes you brain damaged retard, they only contain cosmetics, that's the difference.
>>713595796
Whales are people buying cosmetics in games you giga faggot retard
>>713595882
Sorry anon, I'm white and straight. I only care about gameplay. If you want to play barbie dress-up, then there are plenty HTML games that do just that.

>>713595825
>>713595879
Can I play PoE offline?

>>713595898
I'm a D2chad nigger, I like seeing the enemies

Man it looks like shit, looks like a mobile game presentation with shitty generic music that doesn't fit the Diablo sound easthetic.
Terrible.

im starting to think d4 players have an inferiority complex towards other ARPGS
this thread is more about shitting on PoE and Titan Quest than discussing how good D4 is

>>713595921
>is it good?
yes. up to a point
>is it fun?
see above

>>713595961
D2 as in D2 or as in D2 with mods aka not-D2?

>>713595947
>Whales are people buying cosmetics in games you giga faggot retard
whales are people who spend huge amounts on dlc/microtransactions you dumb faggot
no one calls someone who buys 1 battle pass or 1 skin for 10-20 bucks a whale

>>713595994
>plugy
>not D2
just fuck off nigger

>>713595961
Uh oh, how will the blizzard whale respond now? shit talk his beloved d2 to defend d4? call you a liar?

>>713595973
this thread is defending PoE whose players are proven to be coprophagic redditors

>>713596004
Anyone who is spending money on COSMETICS (Read: OPTIONAL TRANSACTIONS) is a whale you brain damaged retard.

>>713595921
No. Just play 3 if you like big numbers or 2 if you have gambling addiction. Diablo 3.5 sole purpose is to milk remaining morons through cash shop

>>713595882
he understands it and he doesnt even agree with his own horse shit points about aesthetics never mattering because we all know he isn't playing on minimum settings to achieve maximum frames or peak mechanical efficiency because it makes the game look like shit. we all know he didn't just mash next at character creation and that his character is not a default template. these people are too stupid and wrong to know that they're stupid and wrong.

>>713595949
I don't give a shart about PoE too, I"m a D2 mustardrace.
I hate this forced online shit so much, especialy for these types of games, there's no point.

>>713596004
so you are defending Diablo 4 despite not being a paid shill, nor being a whale? this is even worse than i thought
so there's no incentive nor sunk cost fallacy chaining you
they should study you

>>713596018
ah, so not actual D2

>>713596020
why are you samefagging?

>>713596045
"Whale" is a casino term, and it refers to the people basically bankrolling the enterprise. True whales are the big spenders. Someone who buys a skin every 6 months is a minnow, not a whale.

>>713596072
i never defended d4 you retarded schizo

>>713596070
>thread is about D4 and PoE
>"UUUUHM I PLAY D2 DID ANYONE HEAR ME? I SAID I PLAY A GAME NOT RELEVANT TO THE THREAD"

>>713596068
There's a difference between graphical settings, designing your character and PAYING FOR OPTIONAL COSMETICS you fucking brain damaged retard.

>>713596106
Yes you are. You're saying its fine that Blizzard uses all its time to create Barbie dressup models instead of making actual game content.

>>713596110
Well, I would be potentially interested in both of thse games if they were not required to be played always online.

>>713596139
>game designers are doing cosmetic modeling

I'm still serthing at D4's fucking expansion.
>a FILLER EPISODE
>a FILLER FINAL BOSS
>ONE important thing happens in the story and it's meant for later expansions anyway

>>713593171
is this antisemitic?

>>713596078
every accusation is a confession
you have been samefagging all thread long as if there could ever be more than 1 retard defending d4

>>713596068
idk i think he's just either having a severely autistic meltdown or he's just esl, or both

kek

>>713596161
>yet he posts on 4chan which requires you to be online
curious!

>>713596090
Yeah, and you don't have those in games that only sell cosmetics. But in the context of Diablo 4 with the cattlepass and store cosmetics, whales of D4 are people paying for cosmetics.

>>713593332
nublizz has been mailing it in for at least ten years now

>>713596045
you're actually retarded

>>713596217
Not the same thing.
I'm not paying to post on 4chan.

>>713596248
Not an argument, I accept your concession.

the mistake was thinking Blizzard could make an ARPG when it was North that made D1 and D2

>>713596114
>AESTHETICS NEVER MATTER
>okay they do but NOT LIKE THAT
you either care about the way things look or you don't. thanks for playing friend.

>>713593342
here's what the jidf used to get

>>713596260
poe is free though

>>713596274
I don't put value cosmetics you can buy anon, sorry you're too illiterate to grasp that concept.

>>713596161
At least PoE is free so you lose nothing if you try it. PoE 2 is going free on full release.

>>713596162
Concept artists, modelers, riggers and animators work on those microtransactions instead of making new monsters to kill or new items to find, yes.

>>713596269
Not an argument, I accept your concession.

from best to worst
TQ1
D3
D2
D1
PoE2
GD
PoE1
LE
TQ2
Those Van Helsing games
D4

>>713596327
sorry but you'll have to pay a $29.99 community un-fracturing fee for my response. it'll be another $12.99 and 30 hours of compulsory playtime if you want me to format it.

>>713596389
>>you're actually retarded
>Not an argument, I accept your concession.
>>Not an argument, I accept your concession.
Still no argument, still accept your concession.

>>713591230 (OP)
no need to abandon anything
i've been cycling between poe1 poe2 and d4 for a while now

>>713596139
holy esl go back to shitting on the street ranjesh you can't even read english

>>713596190
>you have been samefagging all thread long as if there could ever be more than 1 retard defending d4
Not an argument, I accept your concession.

>>713596402
i'd put Inquisitor Martyr at the bottom as well. it's just so boring.

>>713596402
>D3>D2

>>713596402
>no sacred 1
gay

>>713596431
>>>you're actually retarded
>>Not an argument, I accept your concession.
>>>Not an argument, I accept your concession.
>Still no argument, still accept your concession.
Still no argument, still accept your concession.

>>713596429
>zoom zoom doesn't remember the dark ages of community fracuring DLC and expansion packs and thus doesn't understand the value in keeping players on the same content patch (outside of extreme jewery circumstances)
Again, you're simply too young to understand and have demonstrated you are a retard

>>713591230 (OP)
Gotta be honest, didn't expect the thread to blow up this much this quickly.

i can't support d4 and PoE because both indians and blizzard support Israel

>>713596450
Stop harassing women, tranny.

>>713595924
Yeah, that's right. Still it was a pain in the ass given all the issues they had with spawning the boss in the first place, and how it would often despawn, not grant credit etc. This of course resulted in massive amounts of faggotry from the playerbase Blizz could have dealt with by putting an end to it, bringing back the boss for other events after launch when things were fixed, granting it more widely to beta testers etc.. but their focus on exclusivity and separating the
>bare mares bro
was the kind of shit Blizz seemed to want to do to cultivate the need for fags to pay for shit atop the battle passes (which were bad enough).

Its a pity because the game itself could have been decent if they unfucked the monetization and the whole ethos around it, but putting a ultra rare mount trophy during a single weekend beta that comes from a fucked up encounter (to say nothing for it being contrary to the actual testing, which clearly was needed given all the issues around it) , is just more evidence of how far the view shifted from the old D2 and D3 days by comparison.

>>713592878
The nephalem are missing in action, Tyrael is also gone.
Lorath is an old man now so I'd wager d4 is almost 20 years of the events of d3.

>>713596549
bro this is the competition on /v/ discussion

>>713596219
I'm a dolphin. I buy the battlepass quarterly and the occasional skin. There's a difference between me and the whales who budget a few hundred a month for skins.
>>713596187
He picks up gold.

>>713596523
>has no argument, no rebuttal, has to pretend he's old and wise while shitting his pants on /videogames/
i never had an issue finding lobbies or people to play with in diablo 2: the lord of destruction, starcraft 2: brood war, or warcraft 3: the frozen throne despite those expansions completely killing their vanilla games. all of my friends had no problem buying those singular expansions. my community never felt fractured. maybe it was a problem for you because you couldn't afford $30 and that's why you're so extraordinarily buttmad? sorry you were poor i guess but that doesn't make you correct about anything.

>>713596286
God I remember being young and stupid. Those were good times.

>>713596640
>There's a difference between me and the whales who budget a few hundred a month for skins.
there's that much mtx skins in d4? lmfao

/v/ loves Diablo IV!! we HATE pooslop 2

Diablo 2
>hear d2 is peak
>try it out
>first enemies are demon imps that are faster than you and run away from you
>offscreen shaman resurrects them
>there's a stamina system for running .exe
>make it to the next zone thinking im finally done with them
>nope, here's a reskin
>uninstall
Diablo 3
>actually pretty good
Diablo immortal
>lag and desync simulator
Diablo 4
>Boring skills
>boring skill modifiers
>boring items
>boring gameplay
>battlepass

>>713596662
>i never had an issue finding lobbies or people to play with in diablo 2: the lord of destruction, starcraft 2: brood war, or warcraft 3: the frozen throne despite those expansions completely killing their vanilla games.
And these days I typically get all those expansions for free without paying a penny thanks to cattlepasses and cosmetics (outside of extreme cases of jewerry) without spending a penny.
>my community never felt fractured.
You asked what problem it solved and I explained what problem it solved. You don'ty like the answer because it completely raped you into submission. You have absolutely no retort.

>>713596754
>are faster than you
no?

>>713596754
t. casual weekend dad player

>>713596662
D2 still had a classic community a long while after LoD launched at least, I never bought TFT either since all I played was custom games

I sure as shit wouldn't buy the current D4 expansion so I don't know how that would work out if I came back to the game

>>713596797
...Yes? the demon imps are faster than your walking speed and run away from you

>>713596843
But they aren't.

>>713596402
>D3 anywhere near top

>>713596880
>lying to protect their game
do diablofags really?

D4 bad
D4 dogshit

simple as

>>713591230 (OP)
i honestly don't like the opening level in 4. i don't really like snow maps, in general, to be perfectly honest.

>>713596662

>>713596927
i suck ass at d2 and i'm not lying. you can walk right up to fallen and you can catch them when they are running.
i don't understand why you're lying about it

>>713596662
2

>>713596789
>typically get all those expansions for free
you go vessel of hatred for free?
>You asked what problem it solved and I explained what problem it solved.
yea man you totally win - battlepasses and never ending annual expansions are definitely an improvement solving the problem of poor people in the third world being unable to afford a single expansion.

>>713596829
Without the DLC, you miss out on Nahantu (not a real big issue), runes (a HUGE issue, as runewords are a big source of power), and the spiritborn (which remains a powerful and fun class). You can enjoy it, but you'll always be behind the curve.

>>713596754
>people replying to stale copypasta

>>713596965
It's nicely done.
The wolf follows and watches you, the entire game is his plan unfolding.

>2 minutes
TL;DW
let me guess instead:
>new powers
>a couple of build approved uniques
>recolored/reskinned helltides or nightmare dungeons
how far off am I?

>>713596964
d4 dead

As with every game, I'll buy it in 5 years when the milk has run dry and the entire game can be had for 10 dollars.

If it has permanently missable battlepass fomo shit, I just won't buy it ever. No problem for me.

>>713596843
>>713596754
Lol, zoom zoom got filtered by fallen.
>I CAN'T PLAY THE GAME IF ITS NOT COVERED WITH LOOT BOXES, SHINY THINGS AND NUMBERS
Go back to fortnite or another tiktok

>>713596986
are you forgetting how they do hit and run? maybe if you catch them offguard when theyre stationary, but they usually run off quickly then come back to you, whack you, then run off again quickly. I'm playing the remastered version if that makes a difference
>>713597057
stale? I wrote the d2 one maybe a week ago and posted it twice so far, this being the third time, the rest is OC

>>713597009
>>you go vessel of hatred for free?
>(outside of extreme cases of jewerry)
Please for the love of christ, read.
>yea man you totally win - battlepasses and never ending annual expansions are definitely an improvement solving the problem of poor people in the third world being unable to afford a single expansion.
It's not about affordability, get it through your thick, retarded skull: its about fracturing the playerbase. I've bought endless expansion packs myself, but I can still be aware of the downsides of that business model you fucking retard.
Your complete lack of engagement with what I'm actually saying in regards to it being better for the playerbase tells me everything I need to know. You've been raped and are just lashing out now.

>>713597103
No they don't. They run when you kill one of their allies.
You can catch them even when walking. They aren't faster than you.

>>713594125
>n-no you don't understand
>blizzard is actually epicly based right wing company!
fucking lmao i feel genuinely sorry for blizzniggers at this point

>>713597147
boot up the game and jog your memory homie, they run faster than your walking speed

>>713597150
As woke as Blizzard is, D4 is reasonably separate from all that. It has attractive female characters, and no heavy handed political shit or faggotry.

>>713597218
I'd unironically fuck that black religious lady who does the bowing while the shield wall thrusts their spears over her in the cinematic. can't be bothered to find her name

>>713597218
>As woke as Blizzard is, D4 is reasonably separate from all that. It has attractive female characters, and no heavy handed political shit or faggotry.

>>713597273
You mean my wife Reverend Mother Prava (Debra Wilson)?

>>713597061
don't care, not into snow levels.

>>713597312
alright in still shots maybe she's not so hot after all, can I take it back?

>>713597316
what the fuck

>>713597316
Too bad, a fourth of the game is snow.
Didn't you like the snow areas of oblivion?
Didn't you like skyrim at all?

>>713597316
yeah snow levels are pretty lazy. I like that 3 didn't have many, if any at all that I can remember

>>713597146
how was literally anyone supposed to extrapolate that you meant
>buying an expansion
when you said
>extreme cases of jewerry
you schizo? was every expansion ever released before battlepasses an extreme case of jewerry?
>its about fracturing the playerbase
you keep saying this and ill just keep why your version of diablo 2 had no player lobbies. again, my community wasn't fractured. i had more people to play with than i'd ever need. are you suggesting that i should be happy to accept a lower quality of life so that poor people somewhere can participate? better for the playerbase? it's not like the games died early or fell out of popularity. how do a handful of central and south americans benefit me or my play experience personally?

>>713597391
3 followed 2s lead and only had snow areas in the expansion.

>>713597218
>ugly ass bald negro
>ugly ass ching chong chang
>trannies in character creator
Why are you gay?

>>713597306
>fat chick in a fat class means woke
Let me ask you this: do insane people know they're insane? Like, do you think to yourself "wow, I'm fucking bonkers?"

>>713597471
>an unironic blizzard shill calling others insane
oh am i laffin

>>713597471
>in a fat class
not that anon but why is there a fat class? and since there has to be for some reason, why is it the only class that has total control over the shape and state of its body?

>>713597471
>fat class
original D2 druid was so fat, holy shit, what an absolute lard planet

>>713597509
Mechanically, so when you shapeshift it's not a jarring size difference (with either a different hitbox, or the same one and weird detection issues).

>>713591230 (OP)
Ehhhh maybe eventually, I don't trust PoE2 to not bitch out after they just gave up and had you replay the existing game for the entire second half of acts in the first game. I replayed 3 recently and it was just fucking bad.
4 at least has a non-goofy artstyle, outside of the bought cosmetics I'm sure. Is the writing less retarded?

>>713597612
As an actual D4 fan, the writing is bad. The DLC story is just painful, and the base game is a snore outside of Lilith stuff (which really survives because she's sexy).

>>713597656
how do you push through the boring skills? are there any classes that get fun to play later on down the line?

>>713597410
>was every expansion ever released before battlepasses an extreme case of jewerry?
I'm obviously referring to them double dipping on selling expansions and cattle passes you fucking retard. Same goes for FIFA selling lootboxes while having a yearly release scheduled that wipes your inventory every year.
>you keep saying this and ill just keep why your version of diablo 2 had no player lobbies. again, my community wasn't fractured.
It objectively was fractured. How can you not understand how retarded it is so say "I owned the expansion so I didn't see any fracturing?" You truely are brain damaged anon.
>are you suggesting that i should be happy to accept a lower quality of life so that poor people somewhere can participate
It's not an affordability or cost issue. It's objectively better for customers and health of the game to be given all the gameplay content for free and have updates funded by cosmetics. Your complete inability to grasp this concept truely shows how brain damaged you are.

>>713597410
>gloating about spending $30
weird flex

>>713597471
fat bitches is a crime against nature and should be highly illegal.

>>713597656
That tracks. Not that I expect them to capture D2's intrigue, can't unjump the shark.
But thanks for the heads up, I'll just skip the dialogue if I play. Sitting through D3's dialogue and loredumps was what we call "a mistake."

>>713597410
>my community wasn't fractured.
>>713597006
>>713596969
Examples of expansions / DLC fracturing the playerbase. This was prevented by giving away gameplay and charging for cosmetics.

>>713597689
Every class has fun builds, but casters tend to get fun quicker than physical classes. Sometimes it takes going through a different build while leveling and respeccing when you meet gear prerequisites.

>>713591230 (OP)
bosses chucking out potions is not diablo
using a town portal to restock my inventory with 40 potions is real diablo

>>713597927
>40 potions dropped by enemies on death is fine
>chucking 2 potions every 1/3 life on a boss is unforgivable

>>713594463
is the /vg/ "guild" still alive? i played when it launched and was in a guild with other anons and some of them were fun to shitpost with, but havent played the literally since season 1 ended, got very fucking boring very quick for me

>>713591230 (OP)
>no Mephisto
>no Baal
>no Diablo

Not one singel prime evil since launch.

>>713592096
>ARPGs are officially dead
People yearned for an evolution of the genre, but when they got Khazan first Berserker and Nioh they didn't care for it because it wasn't a top down clicker.

Fuck, go play The Division 2, it has better build creation than Diablo 4

>>713598079
As far as I know, they are. I'd bet on them being on break until S9, though.

>>713597927
At least there's potions again.

>>713598127
>Nioh
>Nioh is a 2017 action role-playing game developed by Team Ninja
>Team Ninja (Japanese: チームニンジャ) is a Japanese video game developer
So the title is my reaction to the game.
NEEEEOOOOOOOOO

>>713597792
so to be clear, the reason why diablo 4, an arpg produced by blizzard NEEDS battlepasses now is because the completely unrelated genres/developers/games of need for speed and what appears to be deus ex had terrible DLC implementation ~15 years ago? why didnt diablo 2 or 3 have those same issues and how much is blizzard paying you?

>>713598239
>ignores rolling content and a persistent world
>is gay

>>713598127
Nioh is a great action game, but you could remove all the arpg stuff and it wouldn't suffer at all, it's so secondary to the action.
Deep Down could've been the evolution people wanted, where resource management in megadungeons was top priority and it could handle vertical levels in ways that Diablo's perspective kinda can't.

>>713598128
is it possible to even play the game right now without expansion?i was thinking to reinstalling recently just to take a look whats going on with the game 2 years later, but dont wanna spend any more money on it
im still seething that i fell for the meme this time around and got that shitty "ultimate" or whatever edition with preorder for 100 euros

>>713598102
so much this! we need a Diablo 3 again where Diablo COMBINES THE EVIL POWERS OF EVERY DEMON IN EXISTENCE TO BECOME THE ONLY EVIL and possess a nubile girl so he could have wide hips and a tiny waist !

>>713598268
>ignores rolling content and a persistent world
why would i want those things? can you find one (1) review or even a post somewhere during those games heydays asking for those features specifically? just one, on the whole internet. that shouldn't be hard, right?

I pondered playing WoW again today but i will go with Diablo IV. I will regret playing WoW, i'm so fucking sure.

>>713598279
Yeah, it'll run without DLC. You'll just suffer on your build because you can't use runes.

>>713598283
That was a choice. They straight up gave him titties. Faux-titties but definitely titties.

>>713598317
>why would i want those things?
Nobody cares what YOU want. That's not relevant. The fact is that's the model they chose, and that's what's working as far as sales.
The industry doesn't cater to autistic whims. If they did, I'd have Japan wiped off the planet.

>>713598414
>i-it doesn't matter what the customer wants! only my corporate-dad wants!
okay so we're back to them having invented a problem and selling the solution. i'm glad it took like a dozen posts of wasted time to arrive back where we started.

>>713591230 (OP)
We already have Path of Exile 1 and Diablo 2

>>713598490
>I'm THE customer
>the one
>they must cater to me
That's your problem. You refuse to accept there are people that like this (because who CAN like it, other than shills and bots?), and it's successful as a result. Don't like it? Play another game. But since you're in a D4 thread and have never played it and have no interest in playing it (at least, so you say), you don't play games. You bitch on 4chan, like a bitch, bitch.

>>713598414
One of you shills is arguing that the business model is for the good of the playerbase and the other is arguing that the business model is for the good of the business. Can you guys have a quick shill huddle and get your story straight?

>>713598585
I'm a paid bot, not a shill. I'm a string of code that gets paid in rupees (fed through a paper tape slot) to run.

>>713591230 (OP)
HOLY
FUCKING
FUCK
FULLL
HYPE
!!!!!!!!!!!

>>713598562
it's a franchise that i used to like that went to shit due to a business model aimed at exploiting rubes and if i want to complain about it, i'm going to, and there's nothing you can do about it. if you want a hugbox where criticism is against the rules, reddit is right next door.

>>713598239
>the reason why diablo 4, an arpg produced by blizzard NEEDS battlepasses now is because the completely unrelated genres/developers/games of need for speed and what appears to be deus ex had terrible DLC implementation
>why didnt diablo 2 or 3 have those same issues
It did have the same issue you brain damaged retard. What is it about 'community fracturing' content that you don't understand?
Why can't you grasp that giving away the gameplay for free and charging for cosmetics is better for consumers?
>and how much is blizzard paying you?
I've said multiple times I have never bought cosmetics or cattle passes in my life, YOU are the one who wants to give Blizzard more money you fucking retard. Cosmetics have no value to me. However, I'm not a retard, and I've observed that these days I get constant gameplay updates for free while people pay for cosmetics.
You're struggling so hard to grasp with this concept you are actually retarded anon.

>>713598413
>Diablo possesses a man
>He is silent or says 1 line in the whole game
>Diablo possesses a woman
>He never stops fucking talking
lol

>>713598762
>reddit is right next door
To you, not me. I live in a white neighborhood. I have carstuckgirls.com next door.

>>713598797
>is better for consumers?
2025, a fucking ape like you doesn't even considers himself as player anymore
let's check, 1995 or even 2005, games are played by nerds, sold (inflation included) for way less on a physical discs in stores. If game is good gets an xpac or second title
fast forward 2025
game is sold digitally for 350% the price from 2004 (inflation included) despite using online stores or their own selling platform. Game has way less content despite being made by a way bigger company while selling to way more people. Game constantly shits out small xpacs with various quality and cosmetics people buy. Somehow new xpac gets the pricetag of a full game despite being a pretty simple dlc. Devs need constant stream of money to produce 'content" aka shit bloatware

in 2010 durning E3 panels, when someoend esribed mongoloid faggot like you, everyone laughed at prospect of having a fucking consumer, not a player, who's following the brand like a cultist. 2025 and we have literal cultists especially on consoles ready to fight to the death for their company good name and happily spending money on anything shit company produces
this is you, and the company is shitzard
You're the reason why industry looks like this. It survived not for years but for fuckign decades selling hard copies to niche audience. yet somehow here enters you, a mockery of human being that got easily convinced that he needs to constantly feed money to the poor devs because without it they're not gonna survive despite doing that way before you ape devolved into happy customer, getting money onyl from initial premiere and resalles. This company expanded so far by selling those unprofitable wc3 and d2 copies, you fucking mockery of humanity

>>713599323
>game is sold digitally for 350% the price from 2004 (inflation included) despite using online stores or their own selling platform
? what fucking game sells for 3.5x the price of a game in 2004, inflation adjusted?

>>713599323
>let's check, 1995 or even 2005, games are played by nerds, sold (inflation included) for way less on a physical discs in stores. If game is good gets an xpac or second title
Which fractures the playerbase, which you still have absolutely no retort.
>fast forward 2025
Most of the games i play are free and only charge for cosmetics. i don't buy cosmetics because i don't value them at all. i get a constant stream of gameplay updates for free that doesn't fracture the playerbase.

It was duely noted that you failed to respond to anything in my post and instead attacked a strawman.

>>713594834
top down view .. less emphasis on gfx and also that the goal of many arpg builds is to make an autoclear build like , rf or autobomber in poe that u can play with one hand

>>713598797
>What is it about 'community fracturing' content that you don't understand?
it was never a problem in the diablo franchise. i don't care if need for speed had shitty dlc - it isn't relevant to this game, the preceding games in its franchise, its genre, OR its developer. i don't want TES6 or the witcher 4 or whatever sequel to whatever game you can name to have battlepasses because candy crush or something is predatory on mobile - it's irrelevant and unrelated.
>YOU are the one who wants to give Blizzard more money
>Cosmetics have no value to me
you paid for diablo 4 and you enjoy participating in seasonal micro-updates with low quality enemy reskins as if they're even in the same universe as full paid expansions. who gives a fuck what you value? your taste is obviously shit and your brain's reward systems are obviously compromised by pavlovian conditioning. their previous business model gave me all the REAL content, all of the cosmetics, and didn't waste my time with half-asses content or ask me to log in like a job and all i gave up in exchange was SEASON OF THE FAGGOT every three months. it was superior for the consumer in every way.

>>713599518
you're talking to two people you schizo. and your point has never once needed to be rebutted (even though it was) because it was a bad point. nobody cares about """community fracturing""". nobody! if one singular expansion in a game's ~2 year run is enough to break a game, it never had a big enough playerbase to begin with, which is why the single expansion format that blizzard ran with for ~20 years was so successful and popular with players.
>b-but not every game that's ever existed can do that
not my problem. diablo could and did.

>>713592096
What did they do that makes PoE2 so bad?

>>713599518
>Most of the games i play are free
LMAO This fag plays zoomer shooters and battle royales and shit and thinks he knows what quality or value are. Newsflash: intelligent people wouldn't play those games if they paid YOU. Glad you enjoy splashing around in the kiddie pool with children and Brazilians.

>>713599640
>it was never a problem in the diablo franchise.
Yes it was. Paygating gameplay content fractures the playerbase. Get it through your thick retarded skull.
>i don't want TES6 or the witcher 4 or whatever sequel to whatever game you can name to have battlepasses because candy crush or something is predatory on mobile - it's irrelevant and unrelated.
I'd gladly have those games have cattle passes it if meant I get it for free and they only contained cosmetics. Are you retarded???
>you paid for diablo 4
I didn't buy Diablo 4
>your taste is obviously shit and your brain's reward systems are obviously compromised by pavlovian conditioning.
Because I believe that there isn't a problem in giving away free gameplay and charging for cosmetics?
>>713599835
>nobody cares about """community fracturing""". nobody!
They clearly did because that's exactly what TF2's lootboxes solved and allowed it, a game from 2007, to still be relevant, without ever selling a single expansion.
>not my problem. diablo could and did.
Diablo never got additional free gameplay content though you colosal retard.
>>713599994
Anon, you're gloating about spending $40. This isn't the flex you think it is. I'm 29 and I've already paid off my mortgage. It's not about cost, I've said it multiple times, but you're too intellectually destitute to move off of this point.

>>713592252
grim dawn characters look and move like ass and the gear is some weird scrapmetal mad max shit
it's not a game i would associate with the word sexy

>>713593774
>>713593904
Are you for fucking real
What the fuck?

>>713591230 (OP)
Diablo was never good at any stage

>>713593904
i'd rather go back to the diablo 2 style of standing still and hitting the boss instead of this wow-style raid boss bullshit with immunity phases and oneshot puddles
i got the game for free with blizzard bucks and i'm still disappointed

>>713599323
To adjust the 2004 video game prices for inflation to 2025 US dollars, we use the Consumer Price Index (CPI) data. The average CPI in 2004 was approximately 188.9, and based on the most recent data up to June 2025, the CPI is estimated at around 321.5 (assuming a moderate inflation rate of about 3% annually from 2024).
The inflation adjustment formula is:
Pricein2025=Pricein2004×CPIin2025CPIin2004\text{Price in 2025} = \text{Price in 2004} \times \frac{\text{CPI in 2025}}{\text{CPI in 2004}}\text{Price in 2025} = \text{Price in 2004} \times \frac{\text{CPI in 2025}}{\text{CPI in 2004}}

Calculations:
Console games ($49.99 in 2004):
49.99×321.5188.9≈49.99×1.702≈85.0849.99 \times \frac{321.5}{188.9} \approx 49.99 \times 1.702 \approx 85.0849.99 \times \frac{321.5}{188.9} \approx 49.99 \times 1.702 \approx 85.08
Adjusted price: $85.08

Handheld games ($29.99 to $39.99 in 2004):
Lower end ($29.99):
29.99×321.5188.9≈29.99×1.702≈51.0429.99 \times \frac{321.5}{188.9} \approx 29.99 \times 1.702 \approx 51.0429.99 \times \frac{321.5}{188.9} \approx 29.99 \times 1.702 \approx 51.04
Adjusted price: $51.04

Upper end ($39.99):
39.99×321.5188.9≈39.99×1.702≈68.0639.99 \times \frac{321.5}{188.9} \approx 39.99 \times 1.702 \approx 68.0639.99 \times \frac{321.5}{188.9} \approx 39.99 \times 1.702 \approx 68.06
Adjusted price: $68.06

Budget titles ($19.99 to $29.99 in 2004):
Lower end ($19.99):
19.99×321.5188.9≈19.99×1.702≈34.0219.99 \times \frac{321.5}{188.9} \approx 19.99 \times 1.702 \approx 34.0219.99 \times \frac{321.5}{188.9} \approx 19.99 \times 1.702 \approx 34.02
Adjusted price: $34.02

Upper end ($29.99):
Same as above, $51.04

Summary (rounded to nearest cent):
Console games: $85.08

Handheld games: $51.04 to $68.06

Budget titles: $34.02 to $51.04

These are approximate values based on estimated CPI for 2025. Actual inflation rates may vary slightly, but these figures provide a close estimate.

>pays for base game
>pays for expansions
>pays for cattlepass
>pays to skip the cattlepass
>pays for in-store cosmetics

>>713595329
its just the AAA ppl taking the wrong msg once again , ppl buy 480$ mtx every 3 months is becos the game is good , but instead of making the game actually good they use shitty monetary practices to maximize money

>>713596187
anti?

>doesn't pay for base game
>doesn't pay for expansions
>doesn't pay for cattlepass
>doesn't pay to skip the cattlepass
>doesn't pay for in-store cosmetics
>gets all gameplay for free and invests his money that will see returns
My BAE shares are up 54% this year

>>713600656
You don't get all the gameplay if you don't buy the game and the expansion though

>>713600758
I don't play double-dipping hyper jewish games anon and even if I did I certainly would be spending money on cosmetics LMAO

>>713591386
what's the best diablo 2 overhaul? I have heard of 3 at this point
Project Diablo 2, Path of Diablo, Median XL

>>713600905
I had a lot of fun with D2 reimagined a few months back, still very vanilla but has some great crafting options and QoL

Literally no difference. At least Barbie dress-up games are free LMAO.

>>713600416
>enough dps to kill boss in 8 seconds
>fight takes 2 minutes anyway because of mandatory immunity phases
I hate poe1 bosses so fucking much

>>713600905
PD2 by a long shot, they even added wasd support

>>713600905
It's really up to preference, but I like Median XL because it's like an expansion pack on steroids. The classes reimagined, way more end game and so on.

>>713591230 (OP)
Why would you go back to a game over such a shit update like the last third of it is just cash shop items faggot?

>>713594057
you cant even create a cool name for your char ?

>>713601321
I like having the names be the build I'm going through the game with, it's easier to sort them that way.

>>713600974
I agree, custom cosmetics nukes a large part of Diablo's appeal to me, watching your character go from shitty dude in rags and rusted gear to Hyper Murderer: Eternity's Rapist.
Having individually modelled gear at all feels like a mistake compared to the tiered upgrades in D1/2. But I get that they've got to add some customizability to keep whales in the game, I guess.

>>713600138
>Yes it was. Paygating gameplay content fractures the playerbase.
you have yet to provide even one example of this causing a real-world non-hypothetical problem for anyone in a diablo game. one review, one forum post, one anything anywhere from the entire history of the internet complaining that diablo is tough to play because its playerbase was devastatingly split by a single expansion.
>I didn't buy Diablo 4
neither did i - we finally have something in common.
>Because I believe that there isn't a problem in giving away free gameplay and charging for cosmetics?
yes, because what you consider viable gameplay updates are the equivalent of an author drawing a new smiley face in crayon on a blank page at the end of their novel every three months. wouldn't waste my time playing such trivial "updates" even if blizzard cut me a check for my time, as i asserted above.
>They clearly did because that's exactly what TF2
more citing games, genres, and companies that are not relevant. for someone that keeps sperging out about other people not getting things through their heads you seem to keep tripping up on this.
>Diablo never got additional free gameplay content
see above for my opinion on the dubious quality of these "updates"
>I'm 29 and I've already paid off my mortgage.
congrats? i inherited my house and i still rent out the one my dad bought me on campus when i went away for school. happy you were able to come up from being "fractured" out of playing diablo expansions though little bro and you might even escape your tax bracket some day if you keep saving money by playing embarrassingly shit games.

anyway, don't you have a daily login bonus to claim somewhere? maybe you can group up with some of the 12 year olds on your friends list and grind out your mandatory weekly play quotas.

>>713593020
>it’s a success in my head stop using facts against me or else....

>>713591230 (OP)
>why eat wagyu when you can eat poo
no thanks sirs

>>713591230 (OP)
Will wait for the Switch 2 version

I envy people who can play junk like this and PoE seasonally. It seems like a much more peaceful existence compared to playing normal games.
Plus, graphically they're the games in the Cookie Clicker-like genre.

>>713602560
me too. real games can fail to live up to expectations. being able to continuously grind the same skinnerbox for years at a time sounds like it would provide such a sense of certainty and comfortable predictability: you'd know exactly what you were going to play or do with your free time every day.

>>713594152
Does this game even have sexy skins?
Fucking diablo 4 have, but they charge

>>713603073
>sexy skins in a game with runescape grafix

>>713594179
I fell into the beta trap and bought that shit on release
Big mistake

>>713603167
it's funny how the game immediately goes to shit storywise after the beta content

>Abandon path of exile 2
already did
>and come back to Diablo people!
no

>>713591230 (OP)
>oh new customizable spells?
>new jewels?
>a brand new boss you say?
>six (6) new uniques

meanwhile path of exile:
>2 or 3 turbo bosses every expansion
>average 15 new uniques per update
>entirely new mechanics and or minigames implemented
>constant refreshment on old content
>this happening every 4 months
>for the last 10 years or so

>>713596754
>RAKANISHU!

>>713603167
i hope you didn’t get the deluxe edition or whatever that shit was called
biggest gayming regret of my life that still makes my blood boil whenever i think about it

>>713591489
>Your skill tree is boring. To call it a Skill Tree is also wrong. It's like... a Skill Twig. Or Stick. Everyone looks almost identical. It's so fucking boring. There is no thought put into it. Rework it entirely.
But enough about D2.

>>713605573
>grind tier16s for 8 hours
>0 upgrades
>quit before reaching sirus
every league

>>713592096
>PoE is better than PoE 2
lmao

>>713605702
COLENZO!

>>713600837
That's fine, but then you're not getting all the gameplay, making your post false

>>713591489
It still baffles me that they have not expanded the tree at all besides a few new skills and passives. There should be way more skill modifiers than two per skill. Points should be spent on modifying skills rather than just dumping into the skill itself.

>>713591230 (OP)
i keep forgetting this game even came out, utterly forgettable game made by unskilled devs who clearly don't even play their own game, let alone others in the genre

>>713607786
it's crazy they're still making hundreds of millions purely off of D2's reputation

>>713607493
They could add dozens of new skills and modifiers every season just for funsies but the balance niggers would piss and shit themselves because
>muh build isn't viable at pit level 999
or
>muh build oneshot diablo now i have nothing to do all day
It's a damn shame to waste a game with pretty good gameplay and controls and a big potential for flashy explosions and interesting spells. Or maybe they literally can't program it, after the stash scandal I wouldn't be surprised.

>>713591230 (OP)
seasons in D4 are nothing but FOMO bullshit, and I don't do FOMO bullshit.

>>713608040
Based. I don't play FOMO games.

I was playing a game that added battlepass shit and I dropped the game. They later dropped the passes but they will never get another cent from me.

>>713606920
he already fled the thread with his tail tucked after getting thunderously BTFO

Remember when the shills were saying this was gonna be the new wow, then it died in a couple of months?

Good times.

>>713608601
No, I don't. Show me.

WoW announces it's next shitspansion and surprise surprise blizz pays some turd worlder to shill their other disgraceful piece of dogshit
How's the tranny dyke shitskin brigade over at blizz HQ, still living out of your cars to be able to make more subversive garbage

>>713591230 (OP)
You know Blizzard used to make in house cinematics to sell their games, right? This is embarrassing. You're a digrace

>>713608641
Use the catalogue you retarded shitskin poo eating nigger shill faggot.

>>713610480
Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought.

>>713609943
they unironically went to shit after they fired the milk thief

Why does this game run like dogshit? On a 7800xt and it was stuttering like crazy before crashing

>>713591230 (OP)
Can they make actual seasonal content? The berserk event was such a scam
Of all times to recolour the helltide and they just put more skins in their store...

>>713591230 (OP)
Diablo 4 isn't a good game. Its slow, boring, tedious, and aggressively monetized. Its worse than D2 and D3 in every way

>>713601794
>you have yet to provide even one example of this causing a real-world non-hypothetical problem for anyone in a diablo game.
You're denying an objective reality. You live in a fantasy and its not an argument. Paygating DLC's and expansion packs OBJECTIVELY fragment playerbases. Giving players all the gameplay content doesn't.
>yes, because what you consider viable gameplay updates are the equivalent of an author drawing a new smiley face in crayon on a blank page
POE got like 6 new chapters
TF2 has had probably hundreds of maps, game modes and weapons
OW2 has had countless maps game mode and classes
There's no floor or ceiling for what good seasonal content is.
>more citing games, genres, and companies that are not relevant.
Your complete inability to say how they are irrelevant speaks volumes. Of course they're relevant, they prove the model works, that's why I brought them up as examples and you have no retort.
>happy you were able to come up from being "fractured" out of playing diablo expansions though little bro
I already told you I bought and own countless expansions for games you brain damaged faggot. However, I'm not a retard like you, I can understand and have demonstrated the issues with that model for which you have absolutely no counter-argument for.
>>713606920
Paid cosmetics aren't game you fucking retard.
>>713608563
Anon, you've been eterally intellectually raped and have absolutely zero counter-argument. You're desperate for validation from other anons because you're so blown the fuck out.

>>713609943
Nigga, they never made a full CGI cinematic for a fucking season announcement, no fucking company does that shit.
CGI cinematics are for the big expansion announcements.

>>713594667
>"lol what, it's just 240k?"
>see the "T" at the end
lol
I know they're just numbers, but holy shit they're through the roof

>>713610826
You need more ram
Went from 16 to 32 a d pretty much fixed all the dumb stuttering :v

>>713610721
all of the competent devs had to go. they did a heckin' misogyny, didn't you hear? they had fun at work - total 'frat culture'. they even had a RAPE LAIR named after bill cosby in 2013! 2 years before anybody knew he was a rapist! their evil masculinity transcended time and space and even the act of rape because nothing ever happened in the room because it was a bunch of guys sleeping in it.

I hate all the new boss fights, why all the immunity phases? Why can't I just one tap these bitches? Belial was all right

>paid game
>paid DLCs
>shop with cosmetics, battle passes, whatever
You have to be a genuine retardditor to fall for this shit, actually pitiful

>>713611114
>no fucking company does that shit
mihoyo does it with every new waifu, get rekt american pigs

>>713611267
>>713610721
Retards they never made a CGI cinematic for a heckin season, even with the rapists and the milk robbers still working for them.

Poe2 hype lasted for a week. Diablo still standing.

>>713591489
Naaailed it
Yo can tell they were trying in the trailer to make the combat interesting, but it's all so dull and lifeless. Go look at POE as an example for what you should do. Most skills are colorful, cool, and make you feel powerful. Skills in D4 are dull, grey, and make you feel like a cuck. I know they did this because they tried to make D4 into some pseudommo gook phone game, but even the bugmen hate it. It's that boring.

>>713611382
A full CGI video? Are you retarded?

You think this D4 is the same as hoyo retarded budget animations or in-game videos?

https://youtu.be/G2nAezLoy2k?feature=shared


https://youtu.be/mvrW4aKwAXw?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/ydPqFAEgHzs?feature=shared


Like the genshin animated trailer is so fucking cheap, 4 png slides animated in paint...

>>713611269
They don't like that everyone stacks as much damage % increase as possible and one shots everything. See them giving high tier Pit mobs like trillions of health.
Like what the fuck were they expecting. Itemization needs to be reworked in general. I'd like to use some of the more fun / meme aspects but at the end of the day damage is king.

>>713596754
>get filtered so hard by a fucking RAKANISHU dude unistalled after 3mins of playing
holy fucking kek, this shit is embarrassing to even read lol

>>713611112
>You're denying an objective reality.
still waiting for your first real world example. you know, one from objective reality.
>There's no floor or ceiling for what good seasonal content is
seasonal content is universally garbage.
>Your complete inability to say how they are irrelevant speaks volumes.
different companies have access to different sales strategies. apple can get away with things that samsung cannot and vise versa. businesses are not interchangeable units.
>I already told you I bought and own countless expansions for games you brain damaged faggot.
woah now, that wouldn't be boasting about purchasing $40 products would it?

>>713611723
The problem is that beside Lilith all the other fights are just boring...it's like they wanna waste more of your time...

can you fight diablo yet?

>>713611928
of course not lmao

>>713596754
D2 is so overrated
People talk about the itemization of that game being insane but you check some of the items and they have so much boring stats and little to no effects

>>713611979
it was great for its time.

>>713611632
I prefer my anime esthetic over whatever this dreadfully boring brown CGI slop is called.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN5JACOEJFM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN1BFRiI8Kk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSncQJ-pRbM

>>713612458

>>713591230 (OP)
>Abandon path of exile 2
Done months ago.

>>713612529
don't make me post some real gay shit from overwatch lmao

>>713612692
it won't be a cgi video whatever it is, because even blizzard isn't crazy enough to pay a gagillion dollars for a cgi video that they can't promo the game with in half the world.

>>713610826
No idea but probably incompetence. Server lag, rubberbanding, game freezing when you open the inventory, crashes and memory leaks are just normal for D4 it seems. It's been that way for over a year and probably since launch.

>>713592635
but poe doesn't use many procs unless you're playing cast on crit...

this is anti-sovl, it's like a mobile game ad

>>713612804
ok shitposting aside, I liked their warcraft 3, diablo 2 CGI and some stuff from WOW, but the rest was pretty mid and uninspiring. this one is still my favorite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr7A19TPN_k

>>713613229
dang now i kinda want to think of which one my favorite is but there's a lot. probably something from starcraft 1. obviously not even in the same universe graphically speaking but the tone was always so strong.

>>713613229
>>713613363
actually yea i am able to think of it. this one stuck with me for a long time as a kid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-00uQzXyujI
and as garbage as SC2 was, the zerg dlc cinematic was really cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVbeoSPqRs4

>>713591389
all that needs to be said

>>713610583
>poojeet pretending D4 wasn't bad and didn't die within two months of release.

I hope the 400rupees Blizzard are paying you to shill their shitty, dead games endlessly are worth it.

Can I still get the Berserk stuff
Is it all in the store or can I actually play and get it

>>713613586
i had forgotten they moved the crossover stuff beyond overwatch. i uninstalled battlenet when they tried to sell me a porsche.

>>713613481
fucking weird

>>713613586
The event is over.
It was all cosmetic slop lmao
Immortal actually had the real event

>>713591230 (OP)
nioh is a better diablo game desu

>>713612458
D4 can anime too

https://youtu.be/U6LL5EsAwvE?feature=shared

>>713613773
I agree, indians are weird, and smelly, and they shill shitty games.

>>713591489
>>713607493
You guys don't understand the level of mouth breathing retard these guys aim for intentionally it's all marketing.
Diablo is the simple arpg on the market. They literally want someone who played d4 launch to be able to come back to the game and pick what worked then without having to change anything. That's why the trees don't change. Necro has been using corpse tendrils. Corpse damage buffs. Blood mist etc since day one and by dammit blizz will ensure it stays that way until diablo 5

>>713613947
I'll pray for your handler. It must be hell to deal with you.

>>713612079
Sure, it's still influential and a pretty fun game to try, but some people treat it like the be-all and end-all of gaming just because they got addicted to Baal runs when they were 12.

>>713611979
>boring stats is when the item doesn't add 6548974987 attack, 3% chance to poison on hit, 7% crit chance on burning enemies and 5% critical damage on demons

>>713613773
the latest generation of sperg posters are really something else.

>>713614070
I think some people think that more complexity = better game
When most people playing this shit want to just kill shit and loot shit
D4 is pure slop made for normies and that's why people play it

>>713614078
Trust me it's worse for you, having to deal with the smell of BO and cowshit constantly.

>>713613873
didn't see this one, looks great. shame berserk will never get a good anime adaptation. CGI movies covering the golden age arc at least weren't completely fucking bad but still far from 90s anime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM_HRHv4RfI

>>713614262
This all started because I asked you to show me what you were talking about.
That's what made you so mad.
This is not normal.

>>713614114
>Oh my hecking diablo is that a perfectly rolled enhanced defense and attack rating belt oooooh I'm cumming
Nigga please, vampire survivors has better and more meaningful stats and perks than d2

>>713614353
Shilling Blizzard games for free is not normal

>>713614283
Yeah the old anime is still the best adaptation
Also it's funny that all the adaptations skip the fucking black swordsman arc lel

>>713614451
>rolled
That's the problem with ARPG players, they treat the game like it's their job to farm mobs and minmax everything. Diablo 2 doesn't demand that and you can clear it up until Hell without any of this autism.
Now Diablo is all about "muh endgame" and they forget to make anything fun in order to cater to you retards

>>713614879
i always get bored at endgame in these games. not just ARPGs, but looter shooters, MMOs, etc. i stop playing pretty much the exact millisecond that my build is 'figured out' and it's just a matter of waiting for drops to increase my efficacy in that build. watching the numbers go up just doesn't appeal at all if there's no associated shift in moment-to-moment gameplay. worse still, i'm the type of person that knows exactly what they want to play, so there's rarely an alternate class or build i'm interested in trying out because i already picked the one that appealed the most up front. not a bad problem to have i guess; pretty much naturally inculcated against FOMO and retention mechanics.

>battle pass gives lesser rewards
Stop.

>>713615671
Most triple-digit IQ people can figure out pretty quickly if a game is padding content to keep them playing for longer. Unless the gameplay is really, really good (D4 is not) or the waifu payout is huge then it's not worth the time.