Why is she so popular? - /v/ (#713637040) [Archived: 713 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:22:37 PM No.713637040
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I don't get all the angry doll meme
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:25:08 PM No.713637267
>>713637040 (OP)
revenant feet
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:26:27 PM No.713637367
>>713637040 (OP)
You just wanted an excuse to post the image didn't you.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:52:15 PM No.713639520
>>713637367
it's a good image
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:04:19 PM No.713640567
Herta from Star Rail
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:05:17 PM No.713640648
>>713637040 (OP)
Bratty dolls reserve rape correction
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:05:21 PM No.713640653
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>>713637040 (OP)
doll joints in my mouth
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:08:10 PM No.713640886
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>>713637040 (OP)
i don't know

i rarely see anyone even playing her
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:09:17 PM No.713640967
>>713637040 (OP)
barefoot loli doll
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:10:09 PM No.713641032
>>713637040 (OP)
She's a short woman... wait for it... WITH A WEAPON THAT'S TOO LARGE FOR HER!!!
GET IT
I LAUGHED
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:10:35 PM No.713641058
Reddit meme
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:20:22 PM No.713641853
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>>713641058
Get bonked
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:31:33 PM No.713642765
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She won (our hearts)
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:35:10 PM No.713643080
>>713637040 (OP)
UOOOOOOOH
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:44:52 PM No.713643818
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>>713637040 (OP)
Because she is cute.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:45:37 PM No.713643878
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4 hours until darkest 'taur
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:48:36 PM No.713644106
>>713637040 (OP)
Everytime I play recluse, Ironeye or Revenant I seemingly get shit weapons/spell drops. It's like the game is wanting me to play melee
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:49:29 PM No.713644169
>>713643878
I wonder if that will count for Ironeye's Rememberance.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:50:09 PM No.713644214
>>713643878
a lotta yall still don't get it. Everdark Sovereign Darkdrift Knight will be available from June 25 6PM PDT | 9PM EDT.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:50:30 PM No.713644238
>>713644106
Rev's starting claws are really good. Just be sure to upgrade them.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:55:16 PM No.713644625
>>713643878
Can't await to never even fight him due to all the disconnects and being unable to rejoin
What did they fuck up since yesterday
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:09:57 PM No.713645727
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>finally getting good at super adel
>lol cy@ loser now fight the horse cunt on steroids

th-thanks..
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:11:16 PM No.713645807
>>713645727
Welcome to live service gaming, retarded frog.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:15:04 PM No.713646093
>>713645727
I hope they don't remove hard gaper and just keep adding the hard modes to the list
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:20:17 PM No.713646515
>>713640886
i main her.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:22:25 PM No.713646697
>>713640653
La Creatura
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:26:03 PM No.713647006
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>>713637040 (OP)
>Smol
>Big weapons
>Doll joints
>Barefoot
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:30:39 PM No.713647358
>>713637040 (OP)
FEET
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:30:58 PM No.713647393
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Reminder that this is real and official.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot6j_qqYQaM
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:32:10 PM No.713647491
>>713646093
IIRC there are 3 big bosses for 3 weeks, one each week, after that i guess we'll either get more bosses, the cycle repeats, or all 3 become available permanently
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:34:36 PM No.713647702
bad luck
bad luck
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>>713644106
something similar happened to me yesterday playing as Recluse, in one run I got two ultra greatswords from a chest at the start of the run and in another I got a legendary STR weapon. there must be something written in the game's code that makes the game drop fantastic loot but for a character the player is not currently using, Fromsoft would definitely do some cheap shit like that.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:35:45 PM No.713647794
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>>713647393
>it's real
What the fuck.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:36:44 PM No.713647882
>>713645727
I was having a perfect run and it got ruined during the Day 2 Ancient Dragon boss because the Duchess who had her remembrance active had her internet killed or something and it just kicked us all out. Massive bullshit. From needs to fix that. Remembrances are fucked and duos needs to be implemented seamlessly. Like if a player leaves, all the enemies should have their HP reduced to duo mode. And if two leave, to solo.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:36:49 PM No.713647893
>>713647393
unironically this sold me on the game
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:36:54 PM No.713647904
>>713647702
Its easy when not playing solo. You always pick the gold weapon and drop it to your team mate, and vice versa.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:37:05 PM No.713647913
>>713647393
Based.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:38:03 PM No.713647997
>>713647882
Also everyone who got kicked after the Day 1 boss or during Day 2 deserve a Murk and Sigil compensation.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:40:35 PM No.713648187
>regular nightlords are coded blue
>everdark sovereigns are coded purple
>weapons exist in blue, purple, and yellow tiers
>after all the purple ED monsters release they will start releasing the yellow legendary versions
This is 100% happening
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:43:22 PM No.713648393
>>713637040 (OP)
>literally small and cute
>but also angry as fuck (for good reasons)
>also she is canonically a TSUNDERE
Is a perfect combination.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:44:24 PM No.713648481
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>>713648187
looking forward to everpiss adel
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:45:31 PM No.713648573
>>713648187
Get ready for Mega Hyper Libra, where you just fucking build up madness slowly but constantly and have to deal damage to reduce it
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:45:46 PM No.713648592
>>713644106
>Recluse
Forts always have staves, and crystal staves have shattering crystal on their R1 by default, which is at worst a super functional spell, it's the closest thing I've found to reliable for her. One crystal staff upgraded to purple, and just hunting passives on whatever the fuck other weapons, starlight shards, and any relevant defensive passive upgrades you can get usually make for a solid run even with weird shit like constant colossal weapon drops. A bow with an element on it is also super handy if you want to use her cocktail spells and can't find a good spell of an element (holy comes to mind)
Revenant you also want to start with the wraith calling bell as a fallback - super FP efficient, decent damage, decent enough tracking/range that it's reliable, pairs well with any 'triggers when walking' stuff. If you don't have that, her claw is also fine damage, and is probably the best melee weapon in the game for reviving. A relic that changes its element to a boss weakness helps, and nabbing a greatshield somewhere is pretty reliable on her.
No idea on Ironeye, haven't really played him much. Starting with bleed on your bow and just upgrading the starter bow is probably pretty good.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:47:00 PM No.713648698
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i need the next nightfarer to be as hot as Recluse but not a weak caster that needs 500iq to play
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:49:06 PM No.713648867
>>713644106
Crossbows and heavy ranged weapons are worthless with their slower projectiles and firing animations
Your best hope for Ironeye is to upgrade your starting bow
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:49:11 PM No.713648872
>>713648187
>Every attack does arena spanning instant kill aoes
Just like MHFZ
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:49:29 PM No.713648902
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ball joints erotic
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:50:45 PM No.713649004
gremlin revenant
gremlin revenant
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Gremlin Child.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:51:07 PM No.713649027
>>713648698
you will get a stinky perfumer character
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:51:42 PM No.713649081
what class is the best for solo runs
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:52:33 PM No.713649143
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>>713637040 (OP)
I use the Vinheim dragon school outfit exclusively. footfaggots disgust me.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:52:42 PM No.713649158
Tranny game
Tranny design
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:53:26 PM No.713649227
>>713649027
The dlc perfume weapons were actually pretty good so that would be nice
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:55:15 PM No.713649369
>>713649081
Wylder

>Good, balanced stats that make him good for most melee weapons
>Great skill that lets him move throughout the world faster, can gap close, can dodge attacks
>Fantastic art that stuns bosses
>One get out of death free card
He is basically THE solo character.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:56:46 PM No.713649514
>>713648698
Recluse's problem is RNG, nothing worse than getting crappy spells and incantations. Also her health is too low. So damn squishy. Her dodge doesn't make up for the low health because the bosses all have these insane AOEs and asspull attacks. I love Recluse and beat every boss with her, but I ended up switching to a Guardian main because I'm sick of dodging.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:56:55 PM No.713649524
>>713637040 (OP)
tranny shit
tranny game
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:57:02 PM No.713649535
>>713649081
Wylder or Raider
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:58:20 PM No.713649649
>>713649369
I'll try him out, I've been using the katana guy
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:59:44 PM No.713649750
>>713649649
Wylder's only issue is that he feels like the most complete, competently designed character and the rest feel a bit iffy after him. He isn't my favorite just because I am addicted to Raider, but Wylder is the guy who has great stats, a great skill, a great ultimate, and a great passive. Everyone else has some kind of mix of great and shit stuff. Like Raider's ultimate is useless, and he has a non-passive, but his skill and stats are great.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:00:31 AM No.713649819
why the fuck is libra so tanky
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:01:18 AM No.713649894
>>713649819
Did you expect the devil to be fragile
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:01:22 AM No.713649904
file
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>Gambled and got this relic
Absolutely based. I'm a firm believer in vigor supremacy so even though this is realistically a 2 stat large, it is still much better than what I had before.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:01:26 AM No.713649907
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>>713648698
>SLAP SLAP SLAP
>Get revived! Get revived!
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:01:40 AM No.713649926
>>>/lgbtq/
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:02:35 AM No.713650003
>>713647393
magic girls with dirty bare feet will always be kino
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:06:47 AM No.713650326
>>713648902
>They are taking your big weapons m'lord
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:07:00 AM No.713650342
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>>713649004
this doll is a threat
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:08:13 AM No.713650447
>>713648698
>needs 500iq to play
Just stack passives that improve your spells (cast time/cost reductions, attack power increases) and hit the guaranteed staff spawn points along your route. Between killing bosses, opening chests, and the guaranteed spawns you will never really get screwed out of a decent spell. All you need is ONE good spell, the rest of your weapon slots should be taken up by good passives to boost the fuck out of it.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:08:16 AM No.713650450
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>>713649819
If you let him buff himself, you deserve to wipe. Heโ€™s very easy to interrupt and has lots of easy damage windows. He goes down like the titanic if you know how to deal with him.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:08:40 AM No.713650475
What character should I play if I just want to carry someone with the least amount of effort possible?
Trying to get a friend into the game but Iโ€™m not really good at routing and the random third never pings. Something always goes horribly wrong and we always end up underpowered by the third night. Iโ€™m afraid heโ€™s gonna drop it if I canโ€™t get us a win here.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:10:04 AM No.713650582
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*spazzes*
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:10:05 AM No.713650584
>>713650475
ironeye or raider
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:11:00 AM No.713650656
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>>713637040 (OP)
The memes are funny, the design is cute, but she's easily the worst character in the game.
>what if Recluse but no fp regain instead you get shitty summons that get one tapped
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:11:00 AM No.713650658
>>713650475
Ironeye is by far the easiest character and one of the strongest, too.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:11:24 AM No.713650702
>>713650475
It depends.

Guardian or Raider can act as a tank to keep aggro on the boss. Raider can stun with his skill/ulti, guardian can revive and heal with his.
Ironeye is a consistent ranged damage dealer that can you can sort of direct allies during bosses since you're ranged.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:17:49 AM No.713651153
>>713649081
Objectively Wylder, Raider, or Executor, in that order.
>Wylder
>cheat death is the best passive in the game and it's even better solo
>absolutely fantastic ultimate that can trivialize certain mechanics or basically be a guaranteed kill on some bosses solo
>his skill is great for solo mobility
>gets a bunch of guaranteed relics that can give him a basically optimal build
>good all-arounder that can do everything
>can make basically an equipment work

>Raider
>Vigmaxxing so you can make a ton of mistakes (or use it as a resource to trade hits)
>fantastic skill that's great for soloing, especially because you can predict when you'll be able to soak damage to power it
>can trivially stunlock most bosses while solo
>barely anything in the game can stand up to getting wombo-combo'd by a raider with solo scaling
>don't have to worry about messing anybody else up with your ult

>Executor
>decent enough defense
>his skill really shines in solo because you can clown on plenty of enemies and punch above your weight if you know what you're doing (i.e. going to formidable enemies or the castle early)
>memeing bosses with statuses
>ultimate is actually fantastic, especially solo, because it can let you escape death, get a full heal, can kill certain bosses in one use

Duchess is alright if you know what you're doing and you're good at dodging, but I'd rank her and Ironeye below these three purely because they're so fragile that if you make a mistake (and you probably will) it'll be way more costly than the Vigmaxxers. Guardian is too support-oriented but he's also alright if you know what you're doing. Even Recluse and Revenant can be fine, but they're much more build-dependent, whereas the three I listed really just need to get one decent weapon (and it can be their starter).
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:18:05 AM No.713651170
>>713650656
Recluse is fuckin terrible at support while Revenant is really good at it
>Ult will immediately revive even 3 bars and also provide a fairly long window where you can't die
>Summons are fragile, but with patience can give you the time you need to get someone back up
>Her starter weapon does greatsword level damage to revive gauges while being faster and longer range
Also since her drop pool is seemingly more limited she has a bit easier time getting the good incantations like blood's boon. She actually works really well WITH Recluse as Recluse's ult covers the FP problem, and even momentary distractions are windows for either to do significant damage.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:21:54 AM No.713651476
>>713647393
Kino.
>>713637040 (OP)
It's so on the nose that you have to be genuinely retarded to not get it.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:22:13 AM No.713651506
how the fuck am I supposed to beat the wormface night time boss? The death blight cloud never goes away and I get blighted faster than I can kill it
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:23:54 AM No.713651649
>>713651506
It's an AoE around the boss, you can run away to stop the build-up. Kill some of the infinitely respawning trash mobs during the fight, they drop deathblight boluses to clear the status build-up.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:26:27 AM No.713651841
>>713651506
eat the candy
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:27:17 AM No.713651917
>>713651506
kill the spawning rats for free boluses, each bolus not only cures the build-up but also makes your resistance bar bigger
hold the pick-up button and press up on the d-pad to eat them off the ground
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:28:11 AM No.713651987
>>713641032
That's kino tho.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:28:30 AM No.713652014
>>713651649
>>713651841
I rarely try to kill the mobs, I guess I never noticed the boluses drops. Should be easy with a couple boluses
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:28:54 AM No.713652040
>>713637040 (OP)
>make cute attractive female in her peak age
>everyone loves her and gives your game free exposure
It's just that easy. Normalise cute hebe girls
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:30:46 AM No.713652157
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md5: c029a5230d6960996ff0ae51cbd90c93๐Ÿ”
Is revenant remembrance quest still impossible to que up with randoms? I was going to give it a try today.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:30:55 AM No.713652173
>>713652014
Boluses also give a permanent buff throughout the whole run when you eat them in Nightreign, they are much more useful than in Elden Ring, and they stack. Eat all the boluses you can find to build up immunities. You can see the immunity in the stat screen after you eat them
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:34:33 AM No.713652443
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>>713652173
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:40:38 AM No.713652876
>>713652157
I did it a couple days ago and the queue was a little longer than usual but not too bad
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:50:53 AM No.713653653
>>713648698
For anyone that doesn't have AGP it would be better if we could have a non-black non-furry male other than Raider and Wylder.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:52:36 AM No.713653773
>>713637040 (OP)
feet
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:53:48 AM No.713653857
>>713653653
(you)
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:53:55 AM No.713653863
>>713647893
same
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:53:58 AM No.713653868
>>713644106
Do you have relics that boost your item discovery? That might be it
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:54:18 AM No.713653893
>>713649143
You lose out on the robot noises she makes when she runs with that, very disappointing
Replies: >>713694687
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:55:28 AM No.713653986
1684876098583
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md5: 01723522281a6e3982c78495bd148144๐Ÿ”
>>713647393
Secondaries getting caught off guard by this shows you just how many people weren't there for Dark Souls 3 marketing.
Replies: >>713654210 >>713654229 >>713697192 >>713728206
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:55:42 AM No.713654000
>>713649819
His golden form buffs his defense, gotta break the bubble
>>713651506
Interact button + the Use Item button will use an item that's on the ground. Saves you the time of dealing with menus to eat those boluses
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:57:00 AM No.713654101
IMG_1955
IMG_1955
md5: bbdfa34bdc37b709f5b7480546b3c0ac๐Ÿ”
>>713640886
She is the worst character in the game, highly rng dependent, whoโ€™s kit doesnโ€™t interact well with NightLords (the main thing ending your runs) and has to wade through a litany of bad or useless incantations to be helpful.
Many support incantation are fine, just not for Nightlords. Which again, are the thing you need to overcome 90% of the time. Her and Gaurdian make the easy parts of the game easier.
Replies: >>713655715 >>713656693 >>713657939 >>713667183 >>713675027 >>713693847 >>713695610 >>713696090 >>713697437 >>713698637
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:58:15 AM No.713654210
>>713653986
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHgUuhOsHoA
Bunch of zoomers around here I swear
Replies: >>713666571 >>713666705 >>713667001 >>713668247
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:58:24 AM No.713654229
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1750828544426319
md5: 25fc4c363b28cd3a4ec7637efdecfc71๐Ÿ”
>>713653986
they've been doing it since the first Dark Souls game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93LFz_j5fQA

>dark souls 3 fan calling people secondaries
Replies: >>713654932 >>713668409
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:58:26 AM No.713654237
>>713643878
I think Adel probably will have the biggest jump in difficulty
Fulghor wonโ€™t be much harder than his phase 2 already isโ€ฆ which is still one of the hardest phases
Replies: >>713654653
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:02:20 AM No.713654549
>>713652173
>Eat all the boluses you can find to build up immunities.
eating all of them is a waste of time, why would you stop in your tracks to eat poison and bleed boluses if you're going after Libra or Caligo? stop parroting advice you hear on youtube
Replies: >>713661515
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:03:31 AM No.713654653
>>713654237
Gnoster Phase 3 will filter since its a harder version of Phase 1 and people really lose braincells when facing a duo boss.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:06:45 AM No.713654932
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1584326103493
md5: acaed19215882e8895005cc5094c8a36๐Ÿ”
>>713654229
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNpLhv21BS0
Absolute cinema.
Replies: >>713709931
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:07:35 AM No.713654996
>>713645727
Need an edit of this but itโ€™s duchess and two of her teammates are at 3 bars behind her
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:08:47 AM No.713655085
friend-slop games look fun I wish I had friends
Replies: >>713655307 >>713657493
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:08:49 AM No.713655087
>>713647393
Fuck it, this is a spinoff asset flip used to train new devs. The game doesnโ€™t matter, letโ€™s have some cringekino while we can
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:10:19 AM No.713655216
>>713648698
>recluse
>hard
>shattering crystal is easy as fuck to find
>assemble a random menagerie of fp cost down, cast speed up, etc
>shit out 2x the damage of an ironeye, 4x the damage of a guardian, and 1.5x the damage of everyone else
>except duchess who is also using shattering crystal and keeping up with your dps
Replies: >>713656443
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:10:58 AM No.713655263
IMG_1583
IMG_1583
md5: 59d2e8a4f42c22778d02abe37a2655c1๐Ÿ”
>>713648698
Rng fucks the casters way more than the melee or phys ranged
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:11:31 AM No.713655307
>>713655085
just play with randoms
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:11:49 AM No.713655332
file
file
md5: 1ce81056be8272d5e0af888ef21566f9๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>713655593 >>713655625
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:12:02 AM No.713655346
>>713651153
Wylderโ€™s passive resets each day also so you get multiple freebies each run
Replies: >>713655436 >>713655438
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:12:59 AM No.713655414
>>713648592
Thanks for the pointers
>>713648867
Yeah I thought as much, being locked into the long firing and reload animation is a sure way to get screwed eventually. It's probably takes even longer than something like the full moon spells. They are nice against the end of day bosses at least.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:13:14 AM No.713655436
>>713655346
it's each grace so you get a bonus chance each boss you fight
Replies: >>713656097
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:13:15 AM No.713655438
>>713655346
not every run, every time you pass a grace
Replies: >>713656097
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:14:51 AM No.713655563
>>713650658
Kek. Everyone who thinks this is a shitter. He's easy but he is nowhere near the strongest. Only guardian is weaker than ironeye. Ironeye output is honestly pathetic.

I can play a perfect ironeye and struggle like hell to down giga adel with randoms over a long and drawn out war of attrition. Or I play Wylder and melt him before he can even do a single tornado. That's the level of power gap in dps output.
Replies: >>713655686 >>713656354 >>713682936
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:15:09 AM No.713655593
>>713655332
>my work here is done
>does a 360 and walks away
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:15:26 AM No.713655625
>>713655332
Is this mother fucker ever worth fighting?
Replies: >>713655757 >>713655878 >>713656020 >>713656104 >>713656330 >>713656532 >>713674113
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:15:34 AM No.713655638
>>713650656
>what if recluse but no unique gambit of mix spells and can only use one incantations
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:16:05 AM No.713655686
1602616560982
1602616560982
md5: 2bfc7f43569a79538d38ba3193bda421๐Ÿ”
>>713655563
>I can play a perfect ironeye and struggle
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:16:26 AM No.713655715
>>713654101
Her int is not significantly lower than her faith. You can just run staffs on her too. You don't have to use incants.
Replies: >>713678806
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:17:07 AM No.713655757
>>713655625
Maybe if you get to the castle late and you're already level 9 or 10
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:18:36 AM No.713655878
>>713655625
you can overwhelm him with numbers with a lv.10+ squad
a really good team that wants to do the castle bottom to top can try at lv.8
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:20:13 AM No.713656020
>>713655625
Heโ€™s worth more bc he guards talismans

You know whoโ€™s worth ignoring? Whatever is on the roof.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:20:46 AM No.713656061
>>713637040 (OP)
footfags are now normie tier
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:21:14 AM No.713656097
>>713655436
>>713655438
Jesus Christ (literally)
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:21:20 AM No.713656104
>>713655625
Feels like red eye version is more dangerous than any end of day boss. If your team already got some good gear and levels, I'd try. If you're behind and trying to catch up, I'd get the fuck out.
Replies: >>713656560
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:24:30 AM No.713656330
>>713655625
>2 shots me as a level 14 raider
Ball bearing hunter, I kneelโ€ฆ
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:24:48 AM No.713656354
IMG_1878
IMG_1878
md5: 6ebae8c2e0a265038737480f60bbd42d๐Ÿ”
>>713655563
Wrong.
Ironeye has low dps on a dummy but that doesnโ€™t matter when the key to literally any fight is uptime. Ironeye can consistently hit an enemy and also apply status for so much longer than any character. This includes casters as they have slow tracking projectiles and resource management. Ironeye has neither.
Raider R1 will do like 5x more than Ironeyes R1 sure but watch ever boss jump around the arena out of melee range. Ironeye is weaker because he has to be. He gets to hot the boss more and as a result does more damage over the course of a prolonged fight. This is doubly so if he isnโ€™t taking aggro.
Replies: >>713656576
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:25:54 AM No.713656443
>>713655216
I do this but as Duchess so I'm doing all that but better
Replies: >>713656825
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:26:58 AM No.713656532
>>713655625
If you're level 5? Clear the rest of the castle and come back day 2 for him and the roof.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:27:19 AM No.713656560
>>713656104
The red eye version WILL kill you more than any non-Nightlord expect for Nameless King or maybe Loretta

I think itโ€™s interesting you can have such variance on boss difficulty but he is in the basement like 50% of the time, I see his silhouette in my nightmares
Very glad to playerbase is learning to ignore him. Especially the field boss
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:27:28 AM No.713656576
>>713656354
Ironeye is black so who cares
Replies: >>713656686 >>713656971 >>713657998
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:28:34 AM No.713656643
>>713637040 (OP)
Normalfags like lolis but are in denial so they cover their attraction with irony and memes and use weasel words like "smol" and "small girls" and "goblin" instead of loli which is actually what they're thinking but can't/won't say it out of fear.
Replies: >>713656768 >>713657084
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:29:03 AM No.713656686
>>713656576
Nightreignโ€™s playerbase doesnโ€™t get to play that card anymore when half of (you)r thoughts are about sucking the niggressโ€™ chocolate titties
Replies: >>713656858
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:29:07 AM No.713656693
>>713654101
CUTE FEET! CUTE!
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:30:03 AM No.713656768
>>713656643
Loli is a weasel word, just say child
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:30:47 AM No.713656825
1731544305187887
1731544305187887
md5: 1af9191bc328d18b11873ca430e01576๐Ÿ”
>>713656443
i found a black knife and a shattering crystal staff as duchess and didn't know which one to use
Replies: >>713657506
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:30:51 AM No.713656835
Kamitani
Kamitani
md5: 4d2f47f161e3ef411bd79f91756ce762๐Ÿ”
>>713653653
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:31:06 AM No.713656858
>>713656686
>drow vs african
Pretending there's no difference is disingenuous
Replies: >>713657006
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:32:21 AM No.713656971
>>713656576
Ironeye is a skeleton, Executor is the nigger
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:32:43 AM No.713657006
>>713656858
I get the exact same kind of sexual thrill sexualizing them each. Like their exotic animals or inhuman sex homunculi made to appeal to my sense of color.
Replies: >>713657109
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:33:32 AM No.713657084
>>713656643
Revenant is not a loli
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:33:48 AM No.713657109
>>713657006
That's called jungle fever anon
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:34:03 AM No.713657128
>>713637040 (OP)
I never finished Elden Ring (pretty much 100%'d limgrave, Caelid, and the lake then got burnt out) and have no idea what Nightreign actually is, this thread makes it seem like fun though, is it fine to just jump right into Nightreign?
Replies: >>713657456 >>713657587 >>713657671 >>713657901
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:38:42 AM No.713657456
>>713657128
yes, its elden ring on fast mode pretty much but if you got bored you might get bored even faster here because pretty much every asset is reused from base elden ring
Replies: >>713658202
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:38:53 AM No.713657484
>>713648573
Libra will sell you boluses but in exchange will insta proc madness when you least expect it
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:39:02 AM No.713657493
>>713655085
honestly playing with randoms really isn't all that bad, its most annoying early on when youre still figuring everything out yourself so after that barrier most people are at least decent and its not too hard with a little luck to carry (or get carried)
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:39:12 AM No.713657506
>>713656825
I think you use crystal while you wait for the tick damage on the black knife to wear off
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:39:54 AM No.713657564
>>713650656
Bro your libra relic?
Replies: >>713660894
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:40:13 AM No.713657587
>>713657128
Yes, maybe. The game's really hit or miss with people.
Replies: >>713658202
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:41:13 AM No.713657671
IMG_2088
IMG_2088
md5: db7d942cb5df39ee66b73b73567a83a6๐Ÿ”
>>713657128
From a lore and story perspective yes, but having game knowledge is cert helpful from the base game.
With that said, I think the learning curve probably would be the same for alot of people given the great change in thought processes with how you tackle a run.
I think would be โ€œperfectโ€ for you, to sate the gameplay craving while also not feeling left out any story or character revelations.
Itโ€™s also cheap so that helps.
Itโ€™s a veritable mod. Run around a map collecting rng loot to figt rng bosses, although the final boss you know so you build for it specifically. Locations are semi randomized and certain locations can have fewer or more versions on a map (i.e. 1-3 camps, 1-3 mages rise, 3-8 evergaols)
The fun is just the combat and the character unique combat. Very little meta progression. Nightlors final bosses are unique and challenging. Itโ€™s cool to see what ideas FS came up with.
Replies: >>713657901 >>713658202
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:42:33 AM No.713657781
IMG_2090
IMG_2090
md5: 35f5fbd5f4345550279da04e0d7c2885๐Ÿ”
We need a second FTH character.
Recluse is just a better incant user than Rev and Rev just doesnโ€™t bring anything to the table that other characters do, in terms of completing a run.
Replies: >>713657956 >>713695709
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:44:06 AM No.713657901
>>713657671
>>713657128
I will add it has a little โ€œchallenge runโ€ flavor with forcing you to play with weird or bad weapons/spells sometimes. Itโ€™s compelling bc you get to interact with the full roster of items, where as the base game you probably maines liked a handful of items and spells
Replies: >>713658202
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:44:34 AM No.713657939
>>713654101
Making her ghosts so weak AND limited to one at a time was retarded.
Replies: >>713658249
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:44:44 AM No.713657956
>>713657781
Your summons?
Your immortality?
Free revives like guardian?
Replies: >>713658527 >>713661757 >>713681842
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:45:13 AM No.713657998
Gs9EcNIbwAANRNv
Gs9EcNIbwAANRNv
md5: f19fda1ebdc5c909ec6cf9424b362f32๐Ÿ”
>>713656576
Replies: >>713658070 >>713658796 >>713660428 >>713660526 >>713661147 >>713685121 >>713694020
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:46:07 AM No.713658070
>>713657998
wtf wylder is an ultranigger
Replies: >>713658593
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:47:45 AM No.713658202
>>713657456
>>713657587
>>713657671
>>713657901
Sounds like fun, shame i currently only have a PS4 to play it on, i need to upgrade my PC one of these days.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:48:24 AM No.713658249
>>713657939
Just swap them when they're going to get hit. It's super easy micro
Replies: >>713659463
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:49:48 AM No.713658356
>>713649750
>>713649369
Wylder feels like my main guy in every soulsbornring game.
But I'm more interested in playing a specialist designed around an interesting gimmicky niche playstyle like wizard hunter and samurai.

I don't think I've lost with Wylder but I feel more accomplished by picking another character.
Replies: >>713658571
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:52:04 AM No.713658527
IMG_1962
IMG_1962
md5: 8ba94c35503b79359278be838dcfc6b9๐Ÿ”
>>713657956
Well thatโ€™s exactly it: Guardian is a better support character in that regard.
He kinda sucks too but his benefits are also Revโ€™s. Easy trash clearer, good revive, can hold to make an area invincible and also heal people in it.
Revโ€™s summons can hold aggro (for a time), he is also the aggro bit, with the benefit of (some) guard counters.
Rev has better range but then so does Recluse and Ironeye.


Sheโ€™s what you want if you build her as a support character AND also want access to FTH stuff in the same package and those aspects can be solved by just having people pick separate but better characters
Replies: >>713658665 >>713658935 >>713660129 >>713681842
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:52:45 AM No.713658571
>>713658356
>but I feel more accomplished by picking another character.
I agree, but the grappling hook movement is fun so he's my second most played anyway
Replies: >>713659671
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:53:05 AM No.713658593
>>713658070
Heโ€™s not black heโ€™s [faceless man]
The rank and file soldier
He doesnโ€™t need a face
Replies: >>713694145
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:53:07 AM No.713658594
My main squad is just Raider (me), Ironeye, and Duchess and we shit on everything.
Replies: >>713658882
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:54:06 AM No.713658665
>>713658527
bloodborne doll and revenent are so much better than the oc donught steel that is (t)ranni
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:55:41 AM No.713658796
>>713657998
Wylder is Anonymous
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:56:39 AM No.713658872
Kino
Kino
md5: c9a1a8a9e9c4a07d6f03201454b1f682๐Ÿ”
>>713647393
100% pure Kinography.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:56:46 AM No.713658882
>>713658594
Raider is such a good character for how little heโ€™s played
I think the frequency the past two weeks for me (ive got 150 hours in) is like
30%ironeye
25%Executor
20%Wylder
10% Recluse
5%Raider
5%Duchess
3%Revenant
2%Guardian

Not counting who I pick
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:57:17 AM No.713658935
>>713658527
rev can use incantations well and those tend to come with good AoE and frederic is good at keeping the trash away
Replies: >>713659112
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:59:46 AM No.713659112
>>713658935
Thatโ€™s true but youโ€™re making the easy parts of the game easier.
At this point the playerbase has mostly solved the issues with clearing trash. The big hurdles are rng elements (you can control) and the nightlords

Better characters can handle nightlords better. Those are the walls. These free uodates arent making the trash harder.

The balance has to be their of course, if they were as good as Wylder then everyone would just pick Bird and Child
Replies: >>713659713
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:01:07 AM No.713659210
>>713652157
>Stamina on Hit relics
>Find FP on hit weapon, hold offhand
>FP Regen on Repeated Hits boss perk it doesn't work with lawnmower mode fyi I was very sad
>Get ye olde lawnmower
>Proceed to absolutely fucking obliterate anything in your path that has blood
Wew lad, if I had any damage reduction on repeated hits gear that would have been unbeatable.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:01:54 AM No.713659269
>Fighting horseman with a fellow Executor and a raider
>We both just parry his gay shockwaves in unison
Music to the ears and candy to the eyes.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:04:10 AM No.713659445
20250625_190042
20250625_190042
md5: e293be1b8afd28109c03d2bfed68c431๐Ÿ”
The things siscons do for their sisters...
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:04:24 AM No.713659463
>>713658249
Takes forever for them to heal, you'll run out eventually.
Replies: >>713659714 >>713674806
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:07:17 AM No.713659671
>>713658571
True, but god damn it I fucking loved Sekiro more than anything and parrying a big fuckoff boss is a bucket of dopamine. I just wish the parry stance wasn't so janky, and the sword actually did any damage...or even aggro the boss so I can parry in the first place.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:07:20 AM No.713659675
>>713649004
I hate that I can't unsee that the hilt of the sword doesn't line up with the blade in this image.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:07:39 AM No.713659713
>>713659112
Well Sebastian is nice if you wanna do the libra meme to recover FP and generally keep something busy and away with you and helen she uh? pretty sure she gets hit less than frederic so that helps when she fights bosses
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:07:41 AM No.713659714
>>713659463
Enemy is dead by then
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:08:28 AM No.713659784
>>713647393
S-SOUL........
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:08:47 AM No.713659804
when is super centuar out?
Replies: >>713659834
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:09:14 AM No.713659834
>>713659804
t minus 50 minutes
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:10:22 AM No.713659918
>centaur out
>horse gacha out same time
im noticing
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:10:47 AM No.713659953
>>713647393
i find it odd elden ring fans have to like something ironically as if to impress other people. at least I think its them trying to impress others. could be them just trying to convince them something lame, out of place, or just 'cringe' is actually le heckin cool
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:13:10 AM No.713660129
__recluse_and_revenant_elden_ring_and_2_more_drawn_by_bishopshop__be2bf11178c66faf0982b7b5c1a579d0
>>713658527
She's a higher risk higher reward Guardian. Can take aggro, really good at reviving people, but also has the capability to do very high damage with good incants. But your health is low and you can't just guard stance your way through difficult stuff, if you are good at dodging you can carry lower skilled players, but all too often the Revenant just gets knocked down due to low health/poor dodging.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:13:27 AM No.713660146
>>713649750
>Like Raider's ultimate is useless
Untrue, it can guarantee a stagger on most bosses. It's one of three that can pop Libra out of his meditation without needing to do the seals minigame.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:15:18 AM No.713660263
1748725585748370
1748725585748370
md5: 13f6fdafae9bc23e087fe3f4b516a3d1๐Ÿ”
Please post more dolls (joints visible)
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:15:33 AM No.713660285
>>713649750
Dunno giving any ranged guy a place where they can climb and shoot at people with relative safety is neat.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:17:37 AM No.713660428
>>713657998
These are white aristocrats who are tanned after an expedition to the congo
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:18:16 AM No.713660475
Gs4LffeXMAAnfQC
Gs4LffeXMAAnfQC
md5: 04be79445bfc4e6e6af8e2dc1f6c1131๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:18:58 AM No.713660526
>>713657998
To be honest Ironeye just looks like a white guy with a tan or an Italian rather than black.
Executor does have straight up brown skin though but so do many people of Eastern persuasion.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:22:36 AM No.713660797
>>713652157
Just use one of the community passwords reddit. You can bitch about 'muh reddit" all day but you will match with someone and never have to deal with it again.
Replies: >>713666067
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:23:54 AM No.713660894
>>713657564
Oh yeah lemme just emote in the middle of fighting the boss or after clearing a camp so that my team goes ahead of me and I'm always late to the fight.
Replies: >>713661159
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:24:30 AM No.713660946
>>713648698
made for BWC
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:27:39 AM No.713661147
blue eyes white man
blue eyes white man
md5: 3b3233bc5d0a3196c51db72258763144๐Ÿ”
>>713657998
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:27:51 AM No.713661159
>>713660894
It goes faster than you think so it goes well on nightbosses and the like
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:31:35 AM No.713661409
>>713648187
Slogging through the same map just to be deleted by super juiced bosses that do a combo that takes 20 years to finish? I think Im good just finishing all base bosses. Game is simply too boring at this point.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:33:11 AM No.713661515
Ok yeah
Ok yeah
md5: 77f51405d14bb3c9e05454671d9e82fc๐Ÿ”
>>713654549
Because one of the night bosses might have those statuses?
Plus it takes only 2 seconds to eat them off the ground anyway.
Replies: >>713661690
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:35:22 AM No.713661690
>>713661515
how much health do the consumable items heal effect on relics give?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:36:33 AM No.713661757
>>713657956
Anytime anyone mentions immortality as an upside for revenant you can disregard the rest of what they say.
>hurr durr you can waste the best revive in the game to uhhh get hit and still lose 99% of your HP!
It's for reviving. Ghostflame is useless. The invulnerability is useless. The ONLY thing it does is a guaranteed 3 bar revive.
Replies: >>713661869 >>713661876 >>713661897
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:36:42 AM No.713661767
>>713647393
Bella Ramsey face
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:38:40 AM No.713661869
>>713661757
>The ONLY thing it does is a guaranteed 3 bar revive.
you only get to 3bars if you play with tards, and revive won't save you at that point
Replies: >>713662110 >>713662148
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:38:55 AM No.713661876
>>713661757
>He doesn't have the foresight to prevent the deaths altogether and give a buff on top of it
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:39:15 AM No.713661897
>>713661757
The invuln is useful for tanking certain mechanics like madness proc or Adelโ€™s phase 2 freakout (do not do it with the phase 3 sperg it doesnt last long enough)

But frankly itโ€™s use is better spent as a revive yeah
Replies: >>713662110
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:39:39 AM No.713661927
I'm starting to main Revenant and I put her in the black gothic dress
Replies: >>713662221
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:42:45 AM No.713662110
>>713661869
That's it's upside, not the only time you ever use it. Using it outside of a revive is retarded and only recommended by absolute mouth breathers.
>>713661897
>useful for tanking certain mechanics
>like one that shouldn't ever happen
>or coordinating for all 3 people to come within a tiny AoE for a single 3 second period in a 10 minute fight. but NOT the other part of the fight cause you'll wipe
No. It's for revives lol.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:43:18 AM No.713662148
IMG_2093
IMG_2093
md5: ea2ac829242f8e4627f033f706ea69e1๐Ÿ”
>>713661869
This is a fair point that people dont consider, same with auto revives: if youโ€™re at the point where youโ€™re needing to do double 3bar revives or itโ€™s a teamwipe to proc the item then youโ€™re probably not winning anyway bc youโ€™re team is good enough.
There has been one(1) time in My 100+ clears where the revive came in handy to help with the win. If thereโ€™s ever been a triple bar double ko at a nightlord it was already over bc we had it at 40% and were gonna job later.

Most of my successes only get people to 1-2 bars (sometimes none!). Every once in a while thereโ€™s a win when someone gets 3 bared. Most of these bosses are too hard with too much health and too few resources to slug it out over an extended period of time. The cracks in your team show early usually.

Not even mentioning the person with the rez canโ€™t be the one dead to begin with.
Replies: >>713682808
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:44:34 AM No.713662221
>>713661927
Youโ€™ll go the next four runs against Heolster never finding discus of light

Pray for this man
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:46:19 AM No.713662354
Reminder that preventing a death with revenant's ult immortality doesn't make the revive bar increase unlike reviving them with it
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:46:40 AM No.713662386
>>713650656
buy starlight shards, if you don't have at least 4 shards on you when it's time to face the expedition boss, you're doing something wrong.

on a side note, you shouldn't ever use Recluse's skill as the primary way to recover FP, just pop a fucking shard ffs. I really want to strangle those Recluse players that spend more time "absorbing" FP and casting the magic cocktail than shooting their spells at the bosses.
Replies: >>713662492 >>713662686 >>713662921
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:47:42 AM No.713662449
What all works for breaking the statues with items inside? I know Wylder Raider and Executor ults work. I assume Ironeye's ult, Recluse's lightningrod cocktail, and Sebastian melee (if you can make him attack it) do. I know Guardian ult doesn't. None of them seem positioned to be attacked by an enemy unless you roll a Morgott event on top of one or possibly bait a night boss in the northeast corner.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:48:19 AM No.713662492
>>713662386
You should give your shards to the rev. She is starving.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:49:49 AM No.713662583
>>713647393
this was when you knew it was going to be kino
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:51:18 AM No.713662686
>>713662386
>on a side note, you shouldn't ever use Recluse's skill as the primary way to recover FP
Really just depends on what you have and what your teammates are doing rather than being a hard and fast rule. If you have a great spell and passives to support it, yeah eat that shit like candy so that spell is being cast as often as possible. If your whole team only does magic damage and you're alternating casts with draws and throwing the pure magic cocktail, yeah shit is stupid. Drawing is worth it if both components are useful - FP recovery and building to a good spell is fine/efficient.
A lot of the time between her ult and useful draws I don't end up using any starlight shards even if I have them.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:55:00 AM No.713662921
IMG_2091
IMG_2091
md5: 0a81b25188b9b1cde826585c371d8fb9๐Ÿ”
>>713662386
Yall
>yall
You all are gonna want to have that lighting slice with her for Fulghor
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:02:08 AM No.713663403
would
would
md5: 2d7eec7ff8911135bdeea2bdd857d8bb๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>713664234 >>713664343 >>713700535 >>713709997
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:15:48 AM No.713664234
>>713663403
her footjob is gonna feel like sandpaper. are you sure you would?
Replies: >>713664965
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:17:20 AM No.713664343
>>713663403
This place reeks of failure.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:22:41 AM No.713664687
4cqxeaxd5a5f1
4cqxeaxd5a5f1
md5: 4541d0d5ba226f467f4f6f2abef22ee9๐Ÿ”
how come nightreign is so memable?
ive never seen this many fanart from other souls games
Replies: >>713664734 >>713672618 >>713712271
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:23:43 AM No.713664734
>>713664687
this game actually has characters instead of vague statements of purpose
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:25:47 AM No.713664870
1702486482079330 - Copy
1702486482079330 - Copy
md5: 652629e89ce73d2bd0c8fd18c4a1b3c0๐Ÿ”
>>713647393
All the suffering of the past +10 years and we're rewarded for it with a return to soulful earnestly hammy 2000s.

Hope springs eternal

What's limp bizkit up to these days
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:27:31 AM No.713664965
>>713664234
is she wood or porcelain?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:34:01 AM No.713665348
>launch new boss
>network errors all day so nobody gets to play it
I love live service!
Replies: >>713665516
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:37:03 AM No.713665516
1748389516276769
1748389516276769
md5: 13bf6b4edaef30626a626e8a322f3043๐Ÿ”
>>713665348
is centaur here

i was taking a nap
Replies: >>713666781 >>713675164 >>713675376
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:45:13 AM No.713666014
>>713648698
I donโ€™t know if weโ€™re gonna get anymore waifus this hot. By Fromsoft standards Recluse having huge tits is so out of left field that you just know this game had 0 Miyazaki involvement.
Replies: >>713666092
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:46:05 AM No.713666067
fb775e9b9a7c9351711643775688471b
fb775e9b9a7c9351711643775688471b
md5: f9943aed48fdd296909917745daf1ade๐Ÿ”
>>713652876
Ok well I got a insta que for it but ofc I pick today to try it with the severs being fucked so I got a error before the game started.
>>713660797
Maybe I will try this if I have no luck in a few days.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:46:30 AM No.713666092
>>713666014
Personally i think revenant is pretty hotter but i understand your plight
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:51:26 AM No.713666391
Ahem
bell bearing hunter is an overtuned nigger
that is all
Replies: >>713666540 >>713666558
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:53:26 AM No.713666540
>>713666391
He is, but he can be parried, just do that
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:53:39 AM No.713666558
>>713666391
just turn on sekiro mode and deflect bro
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:53:47 AM No.713666571
dark-souls-2-bearer-of-the-curse-lsos2g9radngc6l5
dark-souls-2-bearer-of-the-curse-lsos2g9radngc6l5
md5: cf337c49cd585887b8f2c8d7b5e9fc63๐Ÿ”
>>713654210
HOW
WILL WE KNOW
WHEN YOU ARE DONE
AND I AM UNDONE
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:55:56 AM No.713666705
>>713654210
chills
I still love this trailer, and the bloodborne one, and the dark souls 3 one
actually, especially the dark souls 3 one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9NxxZDjNyU
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:56:37 AM No.713666751
>get to day two
>connection error
>unable to restore session
>get to day two
>connection error
>unable to restore session
LET ME FIGHT THE BOSS
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:57:06 AM No.713666781
>>713665516
He is, I've gotten network disconnected on day 2 both times we've tried to see him, so I have no idea what the fuck he does.
Replies: >>713675376
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:00:26 AM No.713666970
>>713647794
Aaaaaa
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:00:51 AM No.713667001
>>713654210
takes me back
I was so goddamn hyped for that game
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:03:53 AM No.713667183
>>713654101
>Worst character in the game
No, thats guardian.
Replies: >>713693757 >>713696402 >>713697657
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:05:26 AM No.713667263
So much fanart just shows that these games needed proper characters people can pick and use as a "class", it was a mistake to keep the whole class thing when you can just create your own abomination creature character and then make your "build" which is just arbitrarily placing numbers on some stats and you just end up being able to do everything, making the class pointless to begin with. I hope for future games they let you at least pick classes that have their own weapon classes they can use and their own unique moveset and abilities specific to that class. The traditional souls formula is old and tired, we need something new and having actual real characters with classes is a good start.
Replies: >>713670551 >>713670627 >>713672618 >>713681621 >>713686406 >>713686748
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:06:04 AM No.713667302
1000004803
1000004803
md5: 1ac26e8edf1345ad74f1a877134ad9c2๐Ÿ”
>>713647393
Gaming is unironically back
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:12:20 AM No.713667695
Is anybody else annoyed about boss AI and even mob AI sometimes in this game? Why do so many bosses and enemies have escape tools? Seriously who lies it when the dragon flies in the air and goes far away? Why does that move need to exist? Why am I constantly sprinting after bosses just to have a chance to attack?
I didn't care about this that much with Elden Ring, even though it was also annoying in that game. But it's a lot worse here because of the timer
Replies: >>713668703 >>713668801
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:12:47 AM No.713667724
Ok I beat Super Centaur first try, his phase 3 is not a big jump from phase 2 and you can just run and roll spam through his shit
Replies: >>713669037
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:21:36 AM No.713668247
>>713654210
They did a good job of making this game look better than it actually was. We were all fools.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:23:36 AM No.713668353
https://www.twitch.tv/desertp/clip/DrabCharmingPangolinCorgiDerp-4z-QxDyKRc0-x2uz

Nice Game you got there FROM
Replies: >>713668417
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:24:25 AM No.713668409
>>713654229
This trailer had me so hyped back then. Dark Souls on release was amazing. We don't get shit like this anymore.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:24:30 AM No.713668417
>>713668353
>advertising your twitch
kys retard
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:28:58 AM No.713668703
>>713667695
Only boss AI that rubs me the wrong way is Outland Commander, which is the only solo fight where you have three fully aggro enemies on you. I think it was that way in ER too and it's still fine with most characters, but it's ended several Recluse and Revenant runs with bad drop luck on night 2.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:30:30 AM No.713668801
>>713667695
In regular ER/Souls it's a nice chance to regain stamina when a mob does that
here I'm just thinking "Why the fuck does a rat have a backstep???"
Replies: >>713670134
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:31:07 AM No.713668841
>>713637040 (OP)
Trannies.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:32:07 AM No.713668896
>>713641058
This. Plus troons adore her. They wish to be a little white girl.
Replies: >>713670378
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:34:22 AM No.713669037
ACK
ACK
md5: 48c91879d52e965385241a19c5da17f7๐Ÿ”
>>713667724
Heโ€™s pretty fun. Havenโ€™t fought him solo yetโ€ฆ
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:39:27 AM No.713669342
Everdark Fulghor is actually easier in phase 3 because he regrows his missing arm and switches to sword strikes and explosive greatbow shots instead of the wide-reaching bullshit his Night arm can do. At least on first impression. He starts in phase 2 though, just like Adel.
Replies: >>713671967
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:52:29 AM No.713670134
>>713668801
Yeah you also have the horse in ER which helps too. I did just finish the Lies of P dlc before starting Nightreign and enemies there basically never run away from you. Maybe I should haved played through Elden Ring again before starting Nightreign
Replies: >>713672126
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:56:37 AM No.713670378
>>713668896
Wanting To Be The Little Girl IS a tradition here though.
Replies: >>713670603 >>713671183
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:59:11 AM No.713670551
>>713667263
It doesn't *need* that.
Personally i like to make my own characters most of the time but unfortunately most of the time you aren't allowed to make a little girl.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:59:56 AM No.713670603
>>713670378
and this is troon central, whats your point
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:00:23 AM No.713670621
>>713642765
The forbidden golden Oreo
Replies: >>713670925
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:00:31 AM No.713670627
>>713667263
You'll have Duskbloods playable on the Nintendo Switch 2!
Replies: >>713671149
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:05:00 AM No.713670925
>>713670621
Elden Oreo
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:08:44 AM No.713671149
>>713670627
>Nintendo Switch 2!
Ah yes, fracture the playerbase even more.
Replies: >>713671360
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:09:24 AM No.713671183
>>713670378
Your usage of capitalization bothers me. A lot.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:12:28 AM No.713671360
>>713671149
You could say it was a... Shattering.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:16:16 AM No.713671568
IMG_1522
IMG_1522
md5: e424200b502a5dc49b794b2cf6b2dc5a๐Ÿ”
Iโ€™m addicted to chocolate girls
Replies: >>713695709
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:17:09 AM No.713671621
The bird is cool fuck you guys
Replies: >>713671947 >>713672063
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:17:32 AM No.713671642
1730496738619631
1730496738619631
md5: 4d21846da04d6d0b6508a5a93d9a8ca6๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>713695709
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:18:11 AM No.713671682
Phase 3 Fulghor is a good fight. Adel was a piece that of shit at launch and was a piece of shit as an Everdark
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:23:16 AM No.713671947
>>713671621
i like the bird
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:23:37 AM No.713671967
1735655897356306
1735655897356306
md5: 87c683704232393f6e52d3880d4ee1c8๐Ÿ”
>>713669342
i beat him on my first try with randoms and only one person went down once

felt much easier than super jaw tbqh
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:25:09 AM No.713672063
fuck birds_thumb.jpg
fuck birds_thumb.jpg
md5: 5a48cbfc8bc0581c29314447e8cee113๐Ÿ”
>>713671621
Replies: >>713689841
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:26:10 AM No.713672126
>>713670134
Torrent is dog shit, fuck that useless horse.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:28:06 AM No.713672232
holy shit executor SUCKS
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:29:11 AM No.713672319
>Network Error
Damn. My rev run was going amazing.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:33:02 AM No.713672576
1499538544521
1499538544521
md5: cec30d65930a63d2d0b62ec8349435eb๐Ÿ”
>deflecting the bow attack
Replies: >>713672648 >>713673404
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:33:47 AM No.713672618
The-Duskbloods_05
The-Duskbloods_05
md5: 3a4ecb00c938b85062e6fb471898ec69๐Ÿ”
>>713664687
>>713667263
I hope Miyazaki stays permanently out of these kind of projects in the future, he'd find a way to make the characters look gay and lame. Just compare the character designs from Duskbloods to the ones from Nightreign, there is a world of difference, and that's because B-team/C-team are not obsessed with "elegant and respectable" designs like Miyazaki is.
It seems they prefer to make conventionally appealing designs, and judging by the amount of fanart the characters got, it's also the kind of designs that players like. The characters from SotE got jack shit in comparison because they are boring and they look boring.
Replies: >>713673557 >>713673778 >>713688028
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:34:15 AM No.713672648
>>713672576
There seems a surprising amount of shit you can deflect at least once
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:46:27 AM No.713673404
>>713672576
elaborate
Replies: >>713682525
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:48:40 AM No.713673557
>>713672618
I like both designs approaches. But in a game like NR where you are selecting actual characters, a more unique approach is better imo
But i think ER/Souls have plenty of very appealing characters. Artorias, most ER women honestly, Miquella
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:51:05 AM No.713673730
eul___e_2_thumb.jpg
eul___e_2_thumb.jpg
md5: ea72c57c3007eb0c375bdbd6a08abef1๐Ÿ”
Well that was dissapointing, this uber centaur guy was way too easy, first try without dying once lul

Did they make it so easy for the normies? Or will there be legendary versions of these bosses that are finally actually hard
Replies: >>713679931
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:51:37 AM No.713673778
>>713672618
Anon, I am sure is less what you said and that Nightreign has more "Rannis". It's hard to care a character if in the end is just a customizable avatar that doesn't have a "cool default form".
Replies: >>713677813
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:55:51 AM No.713674047
>>713649081
Wylder can use pretty much any melee weapon effectively and has the best mobility in the game, making him more forgiving with routing. Probably the easiest to solo with.
Ironeye's marking gives him what is effectively a super roll that also massively helps with his dps. Just get a relic that gives you two of those things and a relic that patches up his poor starting HP and you're good to go, is by far the best ranged character at actually keeping his distance and if you bother to actually learn how to get head shots you'll instantly be better than 95% of other Ironeye players.

Those two are pretty far above the others as far as solo play goes, Executor is probably third but can have issues with getting around the map and completing objectives in a timely manner. I don't think Raider is particularly great, his special moveset is clunky, his ult is pretty low damage, and his defensive utility is pretty poor outside of "just tank the hit bro". Revenant isn't as bad as you'd probably think, her early game is actually really good but she has a really tough late game once her summons hp starts getting eclipsed by enemy damage output. Recluse and Duchess have really shitty early games and rely heavily on good drops. Guardian isn't even particularly great in a group so I'm not sure why you'd consider him for solo play.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:57:04 AM No.713674113
>>713655625
If you have a good Executor or a Wylder that's really confident in his parries then absolutely go for it.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:09:13 AM No.713674806
>>713659463
>When they're going to get hit
You de/resummon them before they take guaranteed damage, and since Helen regenerates so quickly if you just make sure to use her as often as possible (never take sebastian and frederick out in a row) if you can manage the damage prevention their uptime goes up exponentially. Your ult even charges fast enough that you should always use it early in a nightlord fight on sebastian.
I always see bad revenants get the big boys killed immediately then are forced to have 10% summon uptime the rest of the fight because they burned through their high value HP, but most of the time I can keep full uptime during a nightlord fight even solo (depending on the nightlord that is). It's also why, while having a melee weapon is important for FP preservation you still want to play at range as much as possible so you have the leeway to pull out the harp and manage them. Managing their HP is just as important as managing your own FP
Replies: >>713675187
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:10:55 AM No.713674918
>>713649081
Ironeye solo is very easy mode unless you're clinically retarded.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:12:32 AM No.713675027
1512422235014
1512422235014
md5: cfd607cc9d45e6984a749ef0d44ca52d๐Ÿ”
>>713637040 (OP)
>>713640653
>>713642765
>>713643818
>>713648902
>>713654101
Replies: >>713675949
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:15:07 AM No.713675164
>>713665516
yes and he's super easy
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:15:22 AM No.713675187
>>713674806
This sounds like you've somehow found a playstyle even slower than Guardian's, do you have a video of micromanaging your summons to avoid damage?
Replies: >>713677762
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:17:23 AM No.713675310
1736938323738456
1736938323738456
md5: 46cf5dbadb8c7b8cbc68f6b6dfb70205๐Ÿ”
I wish this game would get an actual expansion, I can't remember the last time I enjoyed a game this much.
Replies: >>713675650
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:18:47 AM No.713675376
>>713665516
>>713666781
The network finally stopped fucking us over and yeah he seems a fuckin LOT easier than Adel.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:19:12 AM No.713675394
They left the vague shit behind but the character stories are boring and the game lacked content or soul to care about it. I've seen sub 10 dollar game produced with more effort and care than this.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:23:09 AM No.713675650
>>713675310
it might get multiple dlcs
its kinda exciting not know what we'll get
Replies: >>713675714
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:24:03 AM No.713675714
>>713675650
nah we're getting the one they promised, characters/bosses and thats it sadly.
Replies: >>713695180
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:24:50 AM No.713675765
>>713652040
Gaming is healing
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:28:04 AM No.713675949
>>713675027
They are hard and cold, though.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:32:16 AM No.713676237
>>713649143
Imagine having taste this bad and still not being into feet in 2025. Completely retarded.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:58:42 AM No.713677762
>>713675187
No, no crossplay means my friends forced me to dust off my ps4 and even though there's literally a media button on the controller I've just never thought about it. Maybe I'll record some gameplay for some future thread
And it's not like I'm always doing it, they have health regen because they're meant to take hits to give you openings to dump high damage incants unmolested. Since it's regen over time you just have to lower the health expenditure enough so that they're more in line with each other, not be their guardian angel.
There's other strategies that help, like since sebastian is immobile you can intentionally set him up at a distance while you fight the nightlord and while you hold the aggro, then ult and start dumping incants whenever it finally switches targets and you'll have like 20 seconds of big dick damage before the ult runs out and then he dies and you have to play more strategically again. If you want to fight with your summons out you can also intentionally move to flank with them so they're """less likely""" to get hit by attacks aimed at you and you also have better openings to harp b/c it's forced to turn to attack the summon. Also since resummoning resets their AI and they often attack immediately on summon, a quick resummon when they get targeted both conserves their HP and puts them straight back on offense.

Revenant's still not topping the tier list even when played right, it's just unlike the other chars she's bad only until you learn her intricacies. It's like a techy low tier in a fighting game, irredeemable dogshit but has a bunch of tricks that bring them up to par then feels 10x more fun to succeed with once you do because of, not in spite of, the steeper learning curve
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:59:33 AM No.713677813
Das EK
Das EK
md5: 37f7308d3a9eab52f340338eb61337af๐Ÿ”
>>713673778
Honestly the biggest tragedy is that From has never been able to make any shorthand for your Customizable PC as effectively as the ร‰lite Knight Set in Dark Souls 1.
Not only is it a good looking traditional knight armor set with good coloration and non obstructive detail, but it was also easy to get in the early game, generic enought that while Oscar wore it it wasn't his and had a good defense/weight ratio.
And it payed off as "Guy in the Elite Knight Set" became the shorthand for the player character for the community.

Demons Souls had the Fluted Set, but the good looking version was gender locked
Dark Souls 2 had both Farram and Alva, but Farram leaned to far to "Warrior" instead of knight and was locked past the halfway point and Alva was behind having to upgrade the merchant while also having to share cultural space with Farram.
Bloodborne also had the Hunters set that worked
Dark Souls 3 had the Fallen Knight Set, which would of been perfect but the text about the former owner shitting the pants and its association with scrubs instead of the everyman held it back.
And Elden Ring had the Raging Wolf set which while doing better than DS2&3 again is locked halfway into the game behind a quest.

Meanwhile Nighreign by having multiple unique characters that bypasses this issue, on top of Wylder which is the perfect "John Nightreign" anyway.
Replies: >>713681318 >>713691432
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:02:40 AM No.713677992
>>713647393
is Dancer of the Boreal Sexo in it
Replies: >>713678143
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:05:42 AM No.713678143
>>713677992
Yes, she's a possible night 2 boss.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:17:32 AM No.713678806
>>713655715
you technically aren't wrong but holy fuck would that make it even more apparent that she's second-rate caster
a character with worse scaling and worse character abilities...

Honestly the only change they need to make is just make incants better and spawn in higher tiers at better frequency. sorcery towers should have an incant equivalent
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:36:48 AM No.713679863
>this game will be abandoned for Duskbloods
>PvPvE on a handheld using wi-fi
Replies: >>713684643 >>713684940
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:36:54 AM No.713679876
GuT4j5HbwAA9kjU
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md5: b9139e5fbf3f5e53c1fb7c4c78ba6888๐Ÿ”
lmao
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:37:37 AM No.713679907
>>713637040 (OP)
feet. trust me bro.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:37:56 AM No.713679931
>>713673730
I think it's the perfect difficulty level for fun with random multiplayer. My premade group got it first try but we are pretty optimized at this point
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:02:21 AM No.713681195
file
file
md5: 5ed1f58a284ac338ba4fbe3bb76e37a6๐Ÿ”
what are we thinking bros
Replies: >>713681478 >>713681620
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:03:21 AM No.713681251
1745075928513992
1745075928513992
md5: c8672afbc0f5a0fefbed1414109562ce๐Ÿ”
i just realized there's going to be an entire week where everyone only plays ironeye because of everdark flying blob.
Replies: >>713682360 >>713685537 >>713726596
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:04:44 AM No.713681318
>>713677813
I don't know. I don't think any of them will become as iconic as Elite Knight, Farram, and Hunters.
Replies: >>713681749
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:07:19 AM No.713681449
it's just funny seeing a little doll running around with hilariously large melee weapons
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:07:53 AM No.713681478
>>713681195
that would fund 216 shifting earths of your choice
I'm gonna farm the shit outta this nigga just for fun
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:08:04 AM No.713681487
>>713647393
I will now buy your game
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:10:59 AM No.713681620
file
file
md5: bcae5c844df9db05209eecde0ce40d10๐Ÿ”
>>713681195
I posted the wrong image
Replies: >>713681970 >>713681984
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:11:00 AM No.713681621
>>713667263
>I hope for future games they let you at least pick classes that have their own weapon classes they can use and their own unique moveset and abilities specific to that class
Agreed. Nightreign proves that the combat can be improved upon with class-like abilities that bring something unique to the table
That said, I don't think any future souls game made will be able to recapture the fun of multiplayer this game has. It's unique and kinda only works in a roguelike run format. The pressure of time encourages everyone to play to their best ability and it rewards game knowledge + cooperation
Replies: >>713682451
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:13:27 AM No.713681749
>>713681318
I don't think any Nightfarer individually will reach that level, but they don't need to,.
Having unique characters with varied mechanical niches fills a different fanbase role than "everyman self insert", instead leaning more towards stereotypes associated with the people who play them than anything.
Replies: >>713682340
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:15:33 AM No.713681842
>>713657956
>>713658527
Face it, she's fucking dog water in comparison to the other classes. That said anyone good at this game can make any character work
I will be playing her out of spite, as a challenge of sorts since I know she's worse for my team than any other character I typically play
Replies: >>713687251
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:17:53 AM No.713681970
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md5: d3d2de4dbc1a0c402c9ed469eb16b3bf๐Ÿ”
>>713681620
i bought it and will never use it
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:18:05 AM No.713681984
>>713681620
just depends on how much the boost is. anything less than like... 15 or 20% is going to not worth it for my taste

line 1: very good generic buff
line 2: i haven't tested the amount but if it's high then it could be worth it for bosses that have 'mandatory' element matchups (like Fulghor)
line 3: doesn't affect last boss so it's trash. might save you a bit of time with a good ult like Ironeye
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:25:59 AM No.713682340
>>713681749
The bitter pill for many is that the two directions From could of taken the series were to either keep the combat relative simple like in the earlier games and lean into its dungeon crawl design philosophy on a larger and more complex level.
Or to do away with the RPG aspects in favor of more action oriented system, which is what they have been doing for years.
I would not be surprised if Elden Ring is the last Souls game to feature a traditional level up system.
Replies: >>713682451 >>713683076
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:26:21 AM No.713682360
>>713681251
Everdark Augur will grow a pair or muscly arms and legs and'll fight us head on, right guys?
Guys?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:28:21 AM No.713682451
>>713682340
Meant for>>713681621
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:29:39 AM No.713682525
file
file
md5: 543656a61280ed65e0b36c00d4571885๐Ÿ”
>>713673404
new boss attack
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:34:51 AM No.713682808
>>713662148
>Not even mentioning the person with the rez canโ€™t be the one dead to begin with.
which is counter to her design as the person with the least amount of health at all times
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:37:45 AM No.713682936
>>713655563
this must actually be bait
nigga did you just read what the bow damage says on your character sheet and ignore every single other aspect of his kit and the reality of combat in this game?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:40:44 AM No.713683076
>>713682340
I'm fine if they just leave Elden Ring as their magnum opus for souls + open world. one thing we've seen is their willingness to experiment. something like Sekiro is a perfect game without being as 100% souls-y as the main series

a return to dungeon crawlers would be so sick though. we need more action dungeon crawlers in general
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:11:04 AM No.713684643
>>713679863
No it won't don't be dumb.
The playerbase on other platforms will still be playing this.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:16:35 AM No.713684940
>>713679863
>game isn't anywhere near out yet
>already making excuses for why you suck
really sad to see it. be better anon, take your fate into your own hands rather than looking for excuses.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:20:01 AM No.713685121
>>713657998
Font they change race with skins?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:26:51 AM No.713685475
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1750922811272
md5: be0f4b9562dbf19e30910b28b62a81c0๐Ÿ”
>>713647393
now i'm buying your game
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:27:50 AM No.713685537
>>713681251
Why not Executor and just ult and scream at the jellyfish to nuke him? Or is that not effective anymore?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:38:02 AM No.713686074
>>713648698
>a weak caster
Just use comet bro.
Pair it with ironeye's mark and duchess skill. Congrats you now deal one billion damage.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:45:20 AM No.713686406
>>713667263
>which is just arbitrarily placing numbers on some stats and you just end up being able to do everything
Honestly I do hope FromSoft does away with or reworks the stat system. STR/DEX/INT/FTH are all essentially just variation on an "attack" stat that empower your preferred type of offense, they're ultimately interchangeable. ARC at least stands out because it affects status scaling, but the others don't do anything but make damage numbers bigger. At that point you may as well just have a unified Might stat.
Replies: >>713686727 >>713686748
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:51:48 AM No.713686727
>>713686406
Are you a D4 dev? Because this sounds like the kind of retarded shit that a D4 dev would say. Stats limit what gear you can use which allow for different builds, they specialize in damage types that each have monsters that are strong or weak against them, and most importantly they make it feel a little more like you're playing a character and not an autistic stat sheet.
Replies: >>713687185
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:52:23 AM No.713686748
>>713667263
>>713686406
You only end up able to do everything if you level to max. You're nowhere close to that while playing through the game normally.
It's about making investments during the playthrough so you don't start off as able to do everything and instead have to make choices and specialize.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:58:14 AM No.713687000
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md5: a3642930e860a99199feee30c000f521๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>713695709
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:02:14 AM No.713687185
>>713686727
Is your only understanding of stat sheets from Soulslikes and D&D? You don't need 4 fucking redundant stats that do all the same thing in different colors to have build variety. I want FromSoft to do something actually interesting with stats, give reason for a Str Build to actually consider investing in Dex beyond hitting the minimum requirement to use their preferred weapon and vice-versa.

The reality is all soulslike build variety is solely based on minmaxing for survivability and big damage. If there's a stat you can dump you dump it with zero hesitation because it doesn't directly contribute to your build's survivability or damage numbers then it might as well not exist for you. The most creative you can get with stats is hitting minimums on Int or Fth on some buff spells to make your melee stronger.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:03:30 AM No.713687251
>>713681842
You can say dogshit anon.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:08:49 AM No.713687506
>Go fight libra
>Alright let's see what deals the goat has cooked
>The other two retards start whacking on him immediatly
>No deals
What the fuck?
Replies: >>713687549 >>713687602 >>713687736 >>713726869
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:09:52 AM No.713687549
>>713687506
>he wants deals from the the happy merchant
Replies: >>713687694
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:11:01 AM No.713687602
>>713687506
Don't take any deals Libra offers you during his boss fight. They all suck and either buff him or severely debuff you. Why would he ever give favor to people trying to kill him?
Take the deals after finishing his raid in Limveld, or early on if you find him randomly around. But your teammates there were sparing you from making a bad decision.
Replies: >>713687764
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:12:48 AM No.713687694
>>713687549
I like the mimic head
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:13:45 AM No.713687736
>>713687506
I don't negotiate with terrorists.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:14:18 AM No.713687764
>>713687602
>Why would he ever give favor to people trying to kill him?
Dunno they seem fine to me. Also he does that because he has a severe case of autism.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:15:44 AM No.713687837
>>713642765
How are you suppose to defeat this? Literally impossible
Replies: >>713687905
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:17:11 AM No.713687905
>>713687837
You can't.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:19:40 AM No.713688028
>>713672618
Not gonna like I fucking love nightreign characters so much that I want them either to be in the main game or future projects. Wouldn't mind if Wylder could be the main John Eldenring in the live action.
Replies: >>713688279 >>713690776
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:25:04 AM No.713688279
>>713688028
That might be a bit excessive don't you think?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:56:12 AM No.713689841
>>713672063
>they fixed archery
Should I?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:59:45 AM No.713690018
1648488217501
1648488217501
md5: 7a23de14c92fed29c72bfe4789e5e7ea๐Ÿ”
So easiest to hardest solo
1. Raider
2. Wylder
3. Ironeye
4. Executor
5. Recluse
6. Revenant
7. Duchess
8. Guardian
Right?
Replies: >>713691039 >>713692636 >>713723636
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:13:45 AM No.713690776
>>713688028
>Wouldn't mind if Wylder could be the main John Eldenring in the live action.
Ain't no way that's happening.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:19:12 AM No.713691029
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md5: 7f43034ab0db5938856da64e0feefa8e๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>713691084
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:19:26 AM No.713691039
>>713690018
Guardian should be higher on the list once you get good relics for him. Like above Recluse.
The bird is insane during night boss fights as long as your willing to be patient and let the boss finish their combo as he just won't go down while also chipping the boss.
The secret is to not just tunnel vision on halberds, they are great when fighting knights but for anything bigger you want something with more omph or a status weapon.

His biggest weakness that his overall low dps means anything on the difficulty level of the Castle Sewer or higher is often a waste of time unless its like the last/second to last thing you do on night 2 before the boss.
But if you focus on doing stuff like gaols alongside softer targets on the map he can beat nighttlords solo easy at LV10-11 with some time.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:20:27 AM No.713691084
>>713691029
lol
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:26:55 AM No.713691432
file
file
md5: 696848bdef9135bec58a928a9221d2a9๐Ÿ”
>>713677813
ER's peak sets were really in the DLC, which is a shame as they'll never really be associated with the PC as a general representation.
Replies: >>713692747
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:42:26 AM No.713692234
>>713637040 (OP)
reddit cringe + pedophilia
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:50:47 AM No.713692636
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md5: 396c22dce9b538d0941e97bc6a4e3281๐Ÿ”
>>713690018
1. Raider
2. Wylder
3. Ironeye
4. Executor
5. Guardian
6. Duchess
7. Recluse
8. Revenant
Guardian's low damage and bad roll suck, but he can fuck up a bunch and still win through raw bulk.
Duchess has the fastest cast speed, Restage is free damage amp, her dodge is amazing, and she's good with dex weapons too. Surprisingly also more HP than Ironeye. Ult's lame, but sometimes gives you a cheese window.
Recluse does good damage and has a great dodge but dies to a breeze.
Only things Revenant has over Recluse to me are starting with a decent melee weapon and occasionally getting Sebastian to pull aggro so she can get a few extra spells off. There's less standout incants than sorceries, and few seals that guarantee anything good.
Replies: >>713692904
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:53:08 AM No.713692747
>>713691432
Yeah, ER spent way to much time focusing of French style Jousting Armor over more compact designs.
And while agree the DLC armor is all really good but none of it can be the John Elden Ring Armor.
Oathseeker could be that set if they took off the helmet ornamentation and varied the colors up a bit. but its just not quite there for a iconic everyman look.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:56:18 AM No.713692904
>>713692636
I think Ironeye has a ridiculously low hp and defence. I've stated my run with +vigor relic and nameless king still one-shoted me with his lighting at level 6 or 7.
Replies: >>713693406
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:06:56 PM No.713693406
>>713692904
If you have +1skill relic with Ironeye you should never get hit again. Surprised that skill wasn't nerfed yet.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:14:57 PM No.713693757
>>713667183
Guardian rapes every boss' posture by spamming charged guard counters, revenant genuinely doesn't do shit outside of camps
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:16:57 PM No.713693847
>>713654101
>Passive doesn't exist against nightlords
>main ability also is completely useless against nightlords
>and on top of that she gets outcompeted as a faith caster by Recluse who is better than her in literally every single possible way
Making the retarded loli character who they knew would attract shitters into the purposely shittiest character was a pretty based choice on mitsubishi san's part
Replies: >>713694701 >>713694885
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:20:36 PM No.713694020
>>713657998
>Samurai character hailing from elden ring Japan
>Is a nigger
Y-yasuke san?!
Replies: >>713694671
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:23:15 PM No.713694145
>>713658593
>heโ€™s [faceless man
Oh no, hide recluse and revenant quickly!
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:28:04 PM No.713694361
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md5: 578ea06e50b79e620955e7f18aec8890๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:30:18 PM No.713694446
>>713647393
I kneel AMVkino makers
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:34:24 PM No.713694636
>>713649081
Ironeye for sure, wylder close second

If you have the relic which reflects damage on block guardian is viable but boring
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:35:16 PM No.713694671
>>713694020
He's actually a crucible knight LARPing as a weeb
Replies: >>713694958 >>713697152
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:35:44 PM No.713694687
>>713653893
post comparison
Replies: >>713695159
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:35:51 PM No.713694696
>>713648698
She's not that hard to play, even solo.
Just get the store relic that gives her healing on post damage attacks(it works with your spells, specially multihit ones like stars of ruin), then the Relic from the hard mode store that gives her a ton of FP just by collecting a few staves, and you'll be pretty tanky and have almost infinite FP to spam spells without having to constantly regenerate it with her skill.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:35:53 PM No.713694701
>>713693847
>Main ability useless against nightlords
????
Replies: >>713696294
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:38:58 PM No.713694836
>it's an Ironeye has sacred on his bow and keeps fucking up my cocktails episode
Recluse needs a relic that lets her only draw affinities from her own attacks.
Replies: >>713695023
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:40:03 PM No.713694885
>>713693847
Do you think that Recluses (that aren't retarded) actually use her passive and ability vs nightlords instead of chugging shards just like Revenants do? Sure, Recluse can use staves and is less likely to get shafted by weapon RNG, but Revenant has a far better ult and an ability that is at least situationally useful as a decoy for rezzing than one that doesn't exist.
Replies: >>713695067
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:41:39 PM No.713694958
>>713694671
What the fuck is up with his sword? Where did he got it? Why is it cursed? Why is a katana? What the fuck is it wrapped on?
Replies: >>713695026 >>713695260 >>713695716
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:42:01 PM No.713694969
>>713647393
kino out of this world
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:43:24 PM No.713695023
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1746140127490282
md5: 73a1f0e0451c03673e6c53efab3427f4๐Ÿ”
>>713694836
i think one of his remembrance relics has holy on it

i never used it because i also know how annoying it was while playing recluse
Replies: >>713695879
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:43:35 PM No.713695026
>>713694958
...
Replies: >>713695190
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:44:27 PM No.713695067
>>713694885
Using Recluse's ability is fine when the boss runs away beyond the range of any spells, which happens quite often.
Since you can use it at any range it means free FP + a bit of damage while waiting for it to come back.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:46:14 PM No.713695131
>>713637040 (OP)
Nightreign is played by retards, there's nothing to get
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:46:55 PM No.713695159
>>713694687
Both these links are timestamps to revenant running
With shoes - https://youtu.be/A2Npy-8nFeo?t=15
Without shoes - https://youtu.be/9DyRtozbELk?t=73
Replies: >>713695285
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:47:30 PM No.713695180
>>713675714
I think its going to include SOTE weapons too

Speaking of are there any other SOTE bosses in other than hippo? Met him as an unmarked field boss the other day
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:47:41 PM No.713695190
>>713695026
ANSWER ME YOU MUTE BASTARD
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:49:32 PM No.713695260
>>713694958
Crucible spiral nonsense
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:50:08 PM No.713695285
>>713695159
the bottom one is better but its not so much better that I would feel compelled to take a nerf to my abilities over it. though I dont play roll slop anyway.
Replies: >>713695670
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:57:10 PM No.713695610
>>713654101
>worst character in the game.
Pretty much. It's made even worse by the current "meta" of setting shifting earth to shrouded city and running that relic which gives you a stonesword key at the start and buffs ALL of your dmg for each evergaol you clear. First day, you're just making a mad dash between evergaols to stack up on that sweet, sweet dmg boost, and on the second day, you're clearing out noklateo. Revenant might as well not have a passive because you're just fighting bosses most of the time.
Replies: >>713711741
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:58:37 PM No.713695670
>>713695285
It's a purely cosmetic change. There are no stat differences between costumes.
You're taking a nerf just by playing her.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:58:43 PM No.713695680
>>713649143
I like all of them. Sometimes barefeet are cute, and one doesnt need to be a footfag to appreciate it.
I just wish some of her other outfits were a little more varied, personally. Though I'm not sure what else they could give her.
Maybe Gwyndolin's clothes or something? I don't know.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:59:17 PM No.713695709
>>713657781
>>713671568
>>713671642
>>713687000
made for BWC (Big Wylders Cock)|
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:59:27 PM No.713695716
>>713694958
Pretty sure it came from Japan with the painter and maybe it's some kind of soul stealer holding the souls of both the painter and the knight which is why Executor doesn't really know which one he is.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:01:56 PM No.713695823
IMG_9875
IMG_9875
md5: 6e04f09dc56cdd59493cff32800295f2๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:02:52 PM No.713695879
>>713695023
It's his last one, it's a fragment of Fulghor's swordspear. Part of his remembrance is him learning that the Fellowship are all Those Who Live in Death (Ironeye included), and cannot die normally. Only blessed holy weapons can put them away for good. A traitor to the Fellowship tasks Ironeye with obtaining a holy weapon to kill him with, as a way Ironeye can escape service if he ever wants to.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:03:06 PM No.713695893
stuck
stuck
md5: 240299d52cef4b4654c4fdf25dfb3758๐Ÿ”
>-2 level just because i sprinted a bit too fast
god i fucking hate volcano map
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:04:31 PM No.713695959
I fucking love parrying with Wylder. Buckler parry is amazingly good, and both teammates and enemies never expect it. I once gained an audience fighting the basement BBH by parrying the fucker to death, the other two didn't dare interfere lest they draw aggro and die immediately, so they just stood by the entrance and watched.
Replies: >>713711741
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:07:28 PM No.713696090
>>713654101
I have had loads of runs go so much smoother by revs who summon daddy/ult and takes the boss's attention for 20 seconds.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:12:00 PM No.713696294
>>713694701
The summons are complete dogshit against every nightlord
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:13:30 PM No.713696348
>>713648187
There are also Red items (at least for charms) so maybe something even beyond yellow.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:14:40 PM No.713696402
>>713667183
>The most relaxing solo character
>Weak
Wtf is this meme?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:18:38 PM No.713696589
>>713637040 (OP)
Which is worse:
>Revenants whole kit
>Sekiros parrysword damage
Replies: >>713697087 >>713697136
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:24:46 PM No.713696868
>>713647393
AMVS ARE BACK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:29:29 PM No.713697087
>>713696589
I think I'd rather see a Revenant on my team than an Executor because I don't trust randoms to use Executor's skills properly, but I'd rather play Executor than Revenant myself because I think he's stronger if you do know how to use him right.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:30:24 PM No.713697136
>>713696589
to be fair sekiro sword has effectively no stamina cost so there is that
Replies: >>713697357
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:30:49 PM No.713697152
>>713694671
>crucible knight
then why is he a MIDGET? I thought Godfrey raised absolute units only?
Replies: >>713697323
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:31:39 PM No.713697192
>>713653986
I don't recognise any of the songs in dark souls trailers.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:33:59 PM No.713697323
>>713697152
he did cardio once
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:34:48 PM No.713697357
>>713697136
At least its on par with the damage values lol
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:36:35 PM No.713697437
>>713654101
I hate you're right
recluse is just better
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:37:14 PM No.713697472
>>713643878
Meh, it feels like his 3rd phase is actually easier. No crazy bullshit like Adel tornado.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:41:06 PM No.713697657
0df6ea9e56f2ff88ddf7a83c2a7f4873[1]
0df6ea9e56f2ff88ddf7a83c2a7f4873[1]
md5: 8b18718a32dc246d156fb5485c800b02๐Ÿ”
>>713667183
>Hold L and win, the character
>Bad
Replies: >>713713595
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:43:06 PM No.713697749
>>713647393
>first watch it without song
Whatโ€™s everyone basedfacing about? Itโ€™s a standard trailer.
>notice the name of the trailer
>waitโ€ฆ
>sound on
>play
Lmfao, someone at FROM is a westerner.
Still not buying this asset flip, thoughbeit.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:43:56 PM No.713697783
Does anyone have the Webm of Executor going werewolf on split-Gladius? And then instantly getting triple-nuked by the flames at all angles.

I like my dog memes.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:50:39 PM No.713698095
>Fighting rooftop Draconic Tree Sentinel with two Raiders
>Both go down, 3-bars
>I'm not a defensive or support class, I can't get them back up quickly and getting distracted versus the Draconic Tree Sentinel is asking for death
>So I have no choice but to leave them to die
>Once they die one ragequits
>Get to the night boss
>Controller starts FUCKING UP
>I'm using a Switch Pro controller connected to my PC via bluetooth
>It mostly works, except sometimes it randomly gets a really spotty connection and registers maybe one input out of ten
>The boss is Nameless King, another boss I can't get distracted from
>Fucking shitty connection makes me eat an attack I would've dodged had things been working correctly
>Defeat
I'm so fucking mad
Replies: >>713707645
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:01:01 PM No.713698637
>>713654101
No way. I main revenant and even if recluse is better magic is still fucked just like every game. Easily one of the better characters.

Why the fuck does recluse have the same faith stat as her?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:17:10 PM No.713699564
Doll joints hot
Doll joints hot
md5: e7277299138c39eae42b3961eb15c9ae๐Ÿ”
>>713637040 (OP)
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:34:26 PM No.713700535
Gtj3lKyawAErqUD
Gtj3lKyawAErqUD
md5: 40747e93d6209feccfb5c735765bcda9๐Ÿ”
>>713663403
This is why she needs shoes, Dragon School best fit
Replies: >>713701753 >>713703902
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:54:16 PM No.713701753
>>713700535
rememberance
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:28:22 PM No.713703902
>>713700535
AAAAAAAAAH
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:28:40 PM No.713703921
sample_13bce0677cb542a64ee6d7bbbf01cbfa
sample_13bce0677cb542a64ee6d7bbbf01cbfa
md5: 4b0459a9a7920d7635c8fcd82a3aac09๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>713712429
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:40:40 PM No.713704686
every other character but wylder and iron eye SUCK holy shit
Replies: >>713706653 >>713707305 >>713710032
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:58:02 PM No.713705913
I keep playing as revenant and now Iโ€™m one of the best rev players in the world
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:08:06 PM No.713706653
die
die
md5: c5fc28effe43afab02dd2934777fae49๐Ÿ”
>>713704686
Wrong
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:17:56 PM No.713707305
>>713704686
this but just ironeye
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:22:39 PM No.713707645
>>713698095
anon, you did not describe a run worth being mad about lol
that's the kind of run I endure to the finish because I don't want to let other people down and I might at least learn something and then I'm glad it's over
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:51:37 PM No.713709710
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f79b687f9277cd126779ab54f686e6a0
md5: 4b69b9699e25470e86a627561b373964๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:54:45 PM No.713709931
>>713654932
>Prepare to die over and over again
fucking cringe
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:55:32 PM No.713709997
>>713663403
*Licklicklick*
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:55:59 PM No.713710032
>>713704686
raider is very honest unga bunga, it's also fun to retaliate through enemy attacks
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:56:59 PM No.713710103
1728764285452955
1728764285452955
md5: 49154545f4e0785765f479cb1658f44e๐Ÿ”
>>713637040 (OP)
the is doll sexy and her feet should be in my mouth
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:58:03 PM No.713710196
20EAA11
20EAA11
md5: f9704326ac9bb0da72c1d5b231a68d47๐Ÿ”
>day bosses count as invaders
LMAO FROM
Replies: >>713710516 >>713710985 >>713712503 >>713726198
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:00:54 PM No.713710409
>>713637040 (OP)
She is small
She is angry
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:02:24 PM No.713710516
>>713710196
Perhaps it's deliberate?
because you can hardly rely on getting many invaders
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:09:30 PM No.713710985
>>713710196
I think I've actually seen them being called invaders somewhere, but maybe I'm wrong.
Replies: >>713712503
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:14:05 PM No.713711269
Because anime faggots are the lowest ring of scum of the earth. They see "cute girl with bare feet" and post her everywhere and make "le quirky juxtaposition meme of cute girl with big sword and shes the most heroic and strongest of the group!! XD"

They should be shunned and despised wherever they are.
Replies: >>713711810
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:14:08 PM No.713711271
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69d1f4de71288c91b70f3545c959364c
md5: 62aa11fc36dbda6eeecf97e5822b0171๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>713723586
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:20:49 PM No.713711741
>>713695610
>meta in a game that isn't difficult or PvP
Why are faggot gamers like this? What brainrot causes people try to play games centered around RNG and randomness the same way repeatedly? Do you guys seriously not get bored doing the exact same thing over and over?

>>713695959
Parrying with guardian is fun too. Brass shield is easy to get with item discovery

Oh and this whole thread is a massive skill issue. Rev is good. Guardian is good too. You guys just suck and don't know how to play to their strengths. That's fine by me though. Less people picking them means I get to more frequently. Works for me
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:21:43 PM No.713711810
>>713711269
You sound like a millenial
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:26:44 PM No.713712130
131598415_p1
131598415_p1
md5: 9f2d87960e7411af86728acfb761281f๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>713712446
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:28:37 PM No.713712271
>>713664687
You play as actual characters rather than a naked zombie man with a giant club. Also waifus
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:29:05 PM No.713712302
1748866745628591
1748866745628591
md5: 86c6f39afc265b7f155325cfee6ea2fa๐Ÿ”
>>713637040 (OP)
>>713637040 (OP)
is she supposed to be a loli/lolibaba?
is so they really did a bad job of that, im game? she looks like a fucking hag (teenager)
Replies: >>713712518 >>713714851 >>713715206
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:29:34 PM No.713712323
>>713643878
phase three is easier, no goop arm means much more sensible/intuitive dodge rolling, no lightning break minigame means when he's attacking all you need to do is avoid damage rather than try and position close to him to hit him with lightning, and he completely jobs to literally any class with a greatshield
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:31:22 PM No.713712429
>>713703921
>farming rot pots in the poison ruins while my team struggles with erdtree avatar so i can do this just before throwing the nightlord fight
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:31:29 PM No.713712446
>>713712130
Why is she such a gremlin?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:32:23 PM No.713712503
>>713710196
>>713710985
chat? real?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:32:36 PM No.713712518
>>713712302
no. she's supposed to be a doll.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:47:48 PM No.713713595
>>713697657
How do you play the Evernight bosses with Guardian without finding a good elementary shield? Without a good Thunder negation shield Adel just destroy me no matter how hard I try to tank, and since he has a shit dodge I can't really survive properly.
Replies: >>713713979
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:52:44 PM No.713713979
>>713713595
I'm usually either stuck with the default shield or drop it entirely for powerstance, hasn't been problematic either way. Rally relic puts in a ton of work if you aren't already using it, shieldpokes recover the chip as soon as it happens.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:05:14 PM No.713714851
>>713712302
She's a doll that was in the possession of a wealthy Victorian family. She's meant to resemble a maiden or princess, who were typically presented as being non-adult teenagers.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:07:02 PM No.713714991
1629578693420
1629578693420
md5: beb045baa9837ff039c2991ab5d5d555๐Ÿ”
>>713637267
they put the "walking into boss arena" cut scene into the game SOLELY for her feet
Replies: >>713716752
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:09:34 PM No.713715191
I don't get the "guardian is weak" meme. He can spam powerstance attacks just like anyone else. Or are people retarded and use only 1h r1 because they think the shield is permanently glued to left hand? Or do people think the dodge does not have i frames or something? People don't know how to use the shield ability? Help me out.
Replies: >>713715351 >>713717396 >>713720858 >>713723682
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:09:44 PM No.713715206
>>713712302
Itโ€™s just a doll that was being inhibited by a spirit for a while enjoying the company of a girl who did make up on the doll but after seeing the girl died, the spirit got pissy about it and blamed the night leading to what we now call the Revenant
Replies: >>713725338
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:11:45 PM No.713715351
>>713715191
>โ€just like anyone elseโ€
>4 str at lv1 going up to a whooping 10 at lv2
Yup he sure can power stance to show off how proficient he is at dealing damage
Replies: >>713717808 >>713718847
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:18:12 PM No.713715898
>>713647393
>millenial cringe
As a cringy millenial I found it to be based and redpilled.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:28:46 PM No.713716752
>>713714991
CARLOS
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:35:37 PM No.713717265
Fulghor is too easy bros...
What I'm supposed to do now?
Replies: >>713717516
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:37:29 PM No.713717396
>>713715191
>He can powerstance like everyone else
Yes while doing at best 40% of Raider's damage.

But he isn't that weak though, his shield skill is good for several bosses and his charged guard counter his good for staggering.
Replies: >>713718847
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:39:02 PM No.713717516
>>713717265
Sorry buddy, souls games are not infact the hardest games out there.
Replies: >>713718138
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:42:41 PM No.713717808
>>713715351
The way softcaps work means stats are worth less after 40 (and even less after 60).
The difference in dmg per hit between guardian and wylder using the same weapon could be made up for easily with just a few extra hits landed due to more uptime.
People still have very little understanding of how the game works.
Tangentially related pro tip: hoarfrost stomp is just as busted as it was in base elden ring.
Replies: >>713718637 >>713718847
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:46:57 PM No.713718138
>>713717516
Unironically I'd say rhythm games are harder
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:51:56 PM No.713718529
Have people modded Elden Ring so you can play with the Nightreign player models yet? That might get me to jump back in for another playthrough, I'm never playing nightreign itself
Replies: >>713718598
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:52:46 PM No.713718598
>>713718529
they ported the models but thats it
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:53:18 PM No.713718637
>>713717808
Nightreign doesn't have softcaps, stat growths are linear here. Guardian has less than 2/3 the STR and STR-scaling weapon damage Raider does, even at lv15.
Similarly for uptime, Raider's skill and Wylder's relic-enhanced skill have stamina regen during their attacks, Guardian doesn't. But Guardian's high stamina and poise is a real merit compared to non-Raiders.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:55:53 PM No.713718847
>>713715351
>>713717396
>>713717808
I main both raider and guardian, and the difference isn't really as big as people think. Like 40% is just bs. One of the biggest differences is what weapons tend to drop. Raider gets lot of hammers, but bird more rarely. But every now and then i get something like moonveil+rivers of blood with bird, and its just gg.
Replies: >>713718935
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:56:57 PM No.713718935
>>713718847
Why not just play Executor at this point then?
Replies: >>713719062
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:58:28 PM No.713719062
>>713718935
I think you missed the whole point.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:07:06 PM No.713719803
>Be weeb katana man
>Duchess gets Rivers of Blood and keeps it
>Ah well, I can make do with something else
>We eventually beat super horseman
>End screen shows she had not just Rivers of Blood but 3(three) other arcane weapons
This BITCH
Replies: >>713722536
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:10:16 PM No.713720072
1750951268134086
1750951268134086
md5: 8fbd694daed50f60687f7ac3baa3d0f9๐Ÿ”
>first time against super horse
>randoms
>goes pretty well, good teammates
>iron eye and raider
>I'm duchess
>plow through the city event
>dude drops bolt of Gransax for me

I spent that entire fight inflicting him with rot and then sniping him while making that clock fire constantly. How's it feel, fuckface?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:12:22 PM No.713720228
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md5: a3a5480be77ad9d057bbdf06a561d59a๐Ÿ”
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:20:06 PM No.713720858
>>713715191
>People don't know how to use the shield ability?
At launch alot of people didn't because it was a pretty poor explanation by the game
Replies: >>713722681
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:35:58 PM No.713722229
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:39:21 PM No.713722536
>>713719803
>Be weeb katana man
>not starting with bleed+poison+frost and going straight to the nearest mine
you only have yourself to blame
Replies: >>713727287
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:40:54 PM No.713722681
>>713720858
how does the shield ability work? (asking for a friend).
Replies: >>713723029 >>713723356
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:42:59 PM No.713722896
>>713649143
That's a food obe, I use the nun from DS3
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:44:26 PM No.713723029
>>713722681
If you dodge while holding block, Guardian does a little shuffle and hunkers behind his shield. It basically gives you Barricade Shield (way higher guard power, bounces attacks, etc.) but drains your stamina a little bit while you're using it. If you know what you're doing with it you can just soak basically anything.
Replies: >>713723356 >>713723548
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:47:54 PM No.713723356
>>713722681
>>713723029
You can also just hold it down. When I first played guardian I thought it was an active guard kind of thing, like you had to dodge into attacks to make it work. But no, it's basically just your regular block but better.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:50:05 PM No.713723548
>>713723029
oh it only works when dodging while holding back?
guess i didn't know how it worked either even though i basically only play guardian.
Replies: >>713723962 >>713725780
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:50:31 PM No.713723586
>>713711271
I love these
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:51:03 PM No.713723636
>>713690018
Duchess is not that hard solo. She has generous dodges and uses less stamina to attack. Just get any proc weapon (ideally frost and bleed) and just reprise when you get the procs to chunk bosses. She has a big FP bar too so if you get lucky you can abuse some of the better weapon arts like blood tax or classic elden ring cheese with hoarfrost stomp.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:51:31 PM No.713723682
__guardian_elden_ring_and_1_more_drawn_by_junjiuk__a4967a1755b80c28d8737632a754b95e
>>713715191
His ability to do damage is lower than any other character's. That's it - the objective is killing the boss, and he is (by himself) slow at it. He's incredibly valuable in a team setting, but by his own merits is worse at the objective than every other character. Sure he can do good damage if you find a good weapon art, but any other character with str/dex will do better with the same. You could say that being slower results in having more time to make mistakes and die, but he's also pretty easy once you get how his stance works and has the most HP so I don't really buy into that.
Replies: >>713724384 >>713725031
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:53:41 PM No.713723884
For the love of God, please Fromsoft, take this character/hero template into your next game, for fuck's sake PLEASE!
Replies: >>713724703
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:54:38 PM No.713723962
>>713723548
You can dodge any direction, and then while holding block you will be in a stance where Guardian is walking and your stamina is draining slowly. Lasts as long as you have stamina.
Also Guardian is the only character that has a charged guard counter with his halberd moveset, which is super useful to cover distance back after the hits that send you flying while blocking.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:59:12 PM No.713724384
>>713723682
Raider is basically almost as good durability wise without having to sacrifice damage.
Replies: >>713724941
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:02:58 PM No.713724703
>>713723884
BUT MUH BUILD VARIETYYY EVEN THOUGH SEKIRO IS THEIR BEST GAME
Replies: >>713725119
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:05:37 PM No.713724941
>>713724384
Raider is worse at the part of the game that isn't hard - Guardian is actually quite good at most non-boss stuff because of his skill and pretty fast heavy attack sweeps, and his skill can stunlock quite a few mid-bosses. But then you reach the Nightlord or even night bosses and Raider completely outshines him at everything other than his ult when your teammates are getting slaughtered. Does more stagger, can be more actively aggressive because of his skill, is really good at using Rally mechanics, basically the same hp pool in terms of 'how many times you can fuck up'. I prefer playing the bird for flavor (and my friends suck) but his str/dex could use a bit of a tweak upwards.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:06:59 PM No.713725031
>>713723682
I really hate how his main weapons sometimes completely useless against the enemies. I feel like that even his default halberd is too short so you don't even have a range advantage. And I feel pathetic against big bosses when he can't even hit the leg. Guardiang can tank a lot of shit and that feels awesome, but even from his defence stance I can't even fucking hit anything.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:07:57 PM No.713725119
>>713724703
Turn classes into characters, keep Wretch/Deprived as the blank slate CaC class. Boom, everyone wins!
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:09:14 PM No.713725214
>>713647893
>Friends are hyped for NightGAY
>lefromsloppers.jpg
>Stumble with this trailer
>Actually get hyped for it

A little bit of honest to god cringe can go a long way
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:10:40 PM No.713725331
>Want to just beat Augr and move on so grab an Ironeye
>Teammates take fucking Wylder and Raider
I hate this
I hate it so much
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:10:47 PM No.713725338
>>713715206
I am sure there wasn't any spirit in the doll, it was just a plain up doll. Then her owner got brutally killed in from of her and by magic bullshit the doll came to life on her own.
Replies: >>713727779
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:12:07 PM No.713725447
1709586329760269
1709586329760269
md5: 781a250ae1af9403c53ea5d706acbad0๐Ÿ”
Shit game. FromSlopware has truly become the biggest parody of itself. If you told people back in DS3 days that this is what they would make today, they'd laugh at you, now they eat this slop.
Replies: >>713725592 >>713725636 >>713726074
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:13:49 PM No.713725592
Screenshot 2025-06-26 111311
Screenshot 2025-06-26 111311
md5: 0dcdb656d3c91afe29572cc3fb71b50c๐Ÿ”
>>713725447
>FromSlopware has truly become the biggest parody of itself
Replies: >>713725902
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:14:19 PM No.713725636
>>713725447
Oh, it's you again.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:16:25 PM No.713725780
>>713723548
No you just dodge to enter the stance.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:17:57 PM No.713725902
>>713725592
>Fromtrannies reviewbomb the game to bring up the abysmal score
LMAOOO
Replies: >>713726312
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:20:31 PM No.713726074
>>713725447
All Fromslop games are bad.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:20:33 PM No.713726078
>>713637040 (OP)
Who?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:22:06 PM No.713726198
1750173251552490
1750173251552490
md5: cbf577d27d74847471243b54891629c6๐Ÿ”
>>713710196
Yo is this true? Hello?
Replies: >>713727358
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:23:25 PM No.713726304
Tranny game
Tranny character
Tranny series
Tranny developer
Replies: >>713726361
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:23:30 PM No.713726312
rire2
rire2
md5: f5f22b9e308bd06cdfad1760eb42a150๐Ÿ”
>>713725902
>brown udnerage shazamtranny doesn't know what "reviewbomb" means
KEKVS
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:24:19 PM No.713726361
>>713726304
Nah but Miyazaki is definitely gay. DS2 didn't have any barefoot femboys but every other game he's involved with does. The fucker has a kink.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:27:41 PM No.713726596
>>713681251
Anyone knnow if the new Horse fight counts for Ironeye remembrance?
Replies: >>713727985
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:30:55 PM No.713726869
>>713687506
Eventual Greatness is the only one that pays off, and only if you take it during day 1 or 2.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:33:38 PM No.713727115
Fulghor is easier than Adel because he doesn't waste time with a tornado or actively run away from you.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:35:24 PM No.713727287
>>713722536
>Not taking the opportunity to play around with fun weapons
If you need to poopsock this game then you are doing it wrong.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:35:58 PM No.713727346
why didnโ€™t they give birdman a relic that turns his whirlwind into a aura around him
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:36:04 PM No.713727358
>>713726198
yes, tested it with friends
bosses were getting fucking nuked, three times the hp didn't do jack shit when you get hit by 1k+ spells and 1,2k lighting
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:40:56 PM No.713727779
>>713725338
Reading through her story she writes about how she enjoyed having the girl spend time with her which leads me to believe that some random spirit was chilling in the doll, she even talks about who the family is so the spirit was probably in the doll for a bit to know that much
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:41:44 PM No.713727846
>>713637040 (OP)
non canon flanderization will always piss me off
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:43:12 PM No.713727985
>>713726596
Can't confirm it myself (yet) but saw someone say it did
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:43:18 PM No.713727997
>>713637040 (OP)
Trannys. They think they look like her. So they play her because it reinforces their stupid idea of themselves.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 8:45:43 PM No.713728206
1749279718420672
1749279718420672
md5: 410da617ad2b47a8ce1aa2ab89dc69b7๐Ÿ”
>>713653986
the fuck were they thinking with ds3 marketing