Thread 713637579

If the PS2 mascots were so successful and cool how come nobody gives a fuck about them?

>>713637579 (OP)
And yet here you are, giving a fuck about them. They in fact live rent free in your head. Stay seething. Any replies after this point are proof of your submission to how correct I am.

>>713637579 (OP)
They're not cool. Only Sonic is cool. Thats why everyone still loves him

>>713637579 (OP)
Jak is kino, they were just retarded and decided to release a racing game and then a soulless reboot. Daxter was pretty good for a psp game at least

>>713637579 (OP)
Ratchet got a movie. A shit movie but that has to count for something

Jak II was too edgy and tryhard. Should have had the central conflict be the following:
>Somehow, Gol and Maia returned.
Pic unrelated.

>>713637579 (OP)
Eh, people had hopes for future games
>old heads move on
>leaders/new talent focused on other stuff
IIRC Naughty Dog tried to conceptualize a new Jak game but their artists especially were more geared towards realism by then
So instead of trying to push the series in that direction and get a quick cashgrab they left it well enough alone
Sly is likely much the same way and as for Insomniac, well, they kept making games but even with the right talent devs sometimes want to try new things for a while

>>713637579 (OP)
Tons of people care and want them to return. They just know how much of a monkeys paw that will be when modern devs ruin everything charming or appealing about any old franchise they tackle. Ratchet has been Pixar lite since the PS3. Jak returning would just see some TLOU levels of subversion. Sly has the best chance but so far nothing when his last game ended on a cliffhanger.

>>713637579 (OP)
Video game mascots have been out of style for maybe over 15 years. Excluding Mario.

>>713637579 (OP)
The Ratchet games faded in relevance due to increasingly mediocre entries. Jak's devs just stopped making them after a string of good games. Sly fucking died when a new team tried to take over after the initial trilogy and ruined everything.

>>713637579 (OP)
Post PS2-Insomniac tried to twist R&C into some epic fantasy shit but ended up being exactly what the PS2 titles were parodying, the gameplay is ok but the characters keep getting worse and they can't write villains to save their lives so they keep overusing Dr. Nefarious.

>>713637579 (OP)
Sly's series ended. The 4th one is non-canon.

>>713637579 (OP)
there was a time when gaming used to be targeted to children, I don't know what happened or why but now games are primarily targeted to adults

Sly was by far the coolest mascot of the three but I think I enjoy ratchet and clank the most

>>713637579 (OP)
If Jak has a million fans, then I am one of them. If Jak has ten fans, then I am one of them. If Jak has only one fan then that is me. If Jak has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Jak, then I am against the world.

>>713637579 (OP)
>ratchet
got neutered with disney pixar BS for the ps3 era. the dev went full retard and had a melt down in the game commentary about how shit the ps2 was.
>Jax
Anyone who played J&D is like 35yo now
>Sly
Gay furries love sly which is why you ain't getting any more sly.

>>713637579 (OP)
>jak was good for one game and he was never really cool in it.
>sly is great but his story wrapped up 3 games in
>ratchet stopped being cool when they started the future series.

>>713643376
>they can't write villains to save their lives so they keep overusing Dr. Nefarious.
The funniest thing is that R&C2 proved they don't fucking need a prominent villain character, I actually liked how half of that game is just a wild goose chase where R&C gather clues on what the fuck is even going on while everyone around them is fleecing them for bolts.

>>713644179
>Jax
Anyone who played J&D is like 35yo now
this.
we moved on as other shit got bigger and took over.

>>713644280
Yeah Sly isn't really like the others, they wrapped it up nicely in 3 and already tried to ruin it with 4, which by all accounts became the shittiest game in the series.

>>713642045
>Sly fucking died when a new team tried to take over after the initial trilogy and ruined everything.

>Penelope hates the gang suddenly and Bentley breaks up with his waifu
They undid a perfect ending...

>>713637579 (OP)
I love all their games more than anything that came out after PS3 desu

>>713637579 (OP)
Have you learned nothing by now?
You should be happy they are in the past now, instead of getting milked to death by corpo&sjw fucks.

>>713642045
To be fair, they kind of got the gameplay part right on that next gen sly game, but the rest was shit.

>>713637579 (OP)
Only americans and europeans played their games, third worlders didn't give a shit, also the attach rate was terrible. Ratchet is still somewhat relevant though, partly because they went HAM on the marketing during the PS3, PS4 and early PS5 eras, and Jak got a boost because Daxter was THE PSP game

>>713640526
And yet mascot horror is a thing

>>713644179
>>713644585
>Anyone who played J&D is like 35yo now
>mfw 24yo zoom zoom
>poorfag growing up
>played the first three games to death while everyone else was shitting around on the 360
Jak will live on in my heart after you oldfags perish, the torch will be carried

>>713645408
There's a very big difference in appeal between mascot horror and what we're talking about here.

>>713645419
Tell the next generation about how bad that one rail shooter level in jak 2 was, tell them of our suffering.

>>713637991
>they were just retarded and decided to release a racing game
Racing games sell, bro. Quit being a nerd.

>>713645845
Tell the next generation YOU ONLY HAVE TWO MINUTES!

>>713645845
>cmon Jak just blow the eggs up man
>quick mission ezpz
>>713646242
A year n a half straight of THPS still wasn't enough...

>>713637579 (OP)
They tried too hard with these compared to Crash and Spyro

>>713637852
>thinks shit is cool

>>713640526
Because boys wanted to play GTA and CoD, and the cartoon characters were too kiddy for them. These were kids who watched Family Guy and South Park and called you a faggot for watching Cartoon Network still.

>>713637579 (OP)
false premise. they weren't that successful or cool. they met the basic sales expectations of a sony exclusive, nothing more nothing less. jak was a generic fantasy amalgamation with edgy elves and sly was g rated cartoon animals, ratchet was pg rated cartoon animals. most of their enamor comes from the pedigree of being sony first parties on the ps2, part of that being earned, part of that being gifted.

>>713645782
Not really. Sure they have pointy teeth and aren't the player characters, but their appeal is still the same. Kids want colorful cartoon characters in their games, they are the colorful cartoon characters. It's not rocket science.

>>713637991
>they were just retarded and decided to release a racing game
Jak X is the best game in the series and it's not even remotely close.

>>713637579 (OP)
If nobody gave a fuck about them Jak would have never gotten its entire trilogy ported to pc by fans.
>>713637991
The og devs left after finishing Jak 3. They didn't have anything to do with any of the games that came after.

>>713646343
Whats “tried too hard.” Not familiar with irony poisoned Gen Z mindset rhetoric.

>>713648806
If that were the case, there would be a lot more demand for mascot video games like we used to have. The appeal of mascot horror is the horror juxtaposition.

>>713637991
Its best for Jak to stay dead, do you really want Neil Drunkman and Nu-Naughty Dog to make a new Jak game?

You can really feel the HRification of Insomniac in their new Spider-Man and R&C games

>>713637579 (OP)
Some autists gave enough of a shit about Jak to port all of his games to PC.

https://opengoal.dev/

And they did it using the same programming language. Not even Sonicfans are that autistic.

>>713651502
are the games finished?