Thread 713653895

but thats exactly what the journos were asking
easy mode/movie mode

>>713653895 (OP)
what game is this? i want to use it as an example of what not to make a game

>>713653895 (OP)
"Pretend You Won" is going to be the new "Press F to pay respects"

>>713655451
Literally nobody else cares if some gamer wants to play on easy mode.

>>713655598
>but a bunch of losers on 4chan
you forgot that part

>>713655598
Where did I even insinuate that
I'm just saying it's a silly text for an option

>skip gameplay

BRAVO KOJIMBO

BRA-VO

>>713656031
having options isn't bad

Walking sims that pander to journos are okay when Japanese schizos make them.

>>713655598
gaming is literally pointless if there's no skill gap. might as well watch a movie or read a book at that point

>>713653895 (OP)
>press OK for imaginary victory
clap clap

>>713653895 (OP)
PLEASE be real holy shit that is so fucking funny

>>713653895 (OP)
You took a shortcut and cheated. You didn't beat the game and learn and grow. Its quite literally a pretend victory you earn a big chicken emblem at the score screen and you DONT get the achievement

>>713660152
>You didn't beat the game and learn and grow.
it's death stranding, the gameplay of a boss is wading through tar for 10 minutes looking for ammo. PASS

>>713657884
a game's purpose is to be an interactive experience, a challenge is optional (but necessary to actually be good)

>>713660598
>a game's purpose is to be an interactive experience
so basically a museum game or tech demo? well ok then
i hope you will not cum in your pants from all this interactivity

Your choice?

>>713660598
>a game's purpose is to be an interactive experience
Perfectly describes what an interactive movie is just like death stranding

>>713662927
which way anon

>>713657645
Walking sims in general are fine, as long as they don't try to pretend they're something else when they're not

>>713662927
How is this even an option? What kind of braindead retard would pretend to win? Its a video game. We're at a point where losing means nothing and you can just restart at a checkpoint or reload your save to try again.

>>713660330
Yet you still pretend to win

>>713663594
>real place
>vs ai sloppa cartoon bullshit
sounds about right

>>713663594
Lefty paradise is the individual decides what to do with their yard. The authoritarian's paradise is your neighbor reporting you to the HOA for painting your home the wrong shade of blue.

>>713664168
quick search
the thought is what counts

>>713663594
Litterally fantasyland shit, typical, this is why your people get offended when they say "trigger warning" before movies

>>713655598
It's not even easy mode, it's literally cheat mode. Hell at least easy mode you still have to beat the level.

>>713653895 (OP)
finally, i can enjoy gaming

>>713664639
but you didn't beat the game, you only pretended to

>>713653895 (OP)
pretty based

>>713655598
No, nothing exists in a vacuum, challenges in games are meant to serve as a demontration of dedication and skill, the existence of an option to skip it devalues the whole experience since there is now no meaningful extrinsic reward for overcoming the challenge.
You can claim this doesn't matter, but it matters to your brain, this is why some modern games feel so bland and forgetable.

>>713664210
whatever you say hippie
>HOA
don't move into an HOA neighborhood or don't sign the papers that's converting into one. but based either way
lefties love to scream how the world should work, ironically out of their gated communities
□ to get pushed forward

>>713653895 (OP)
If Kojima didn't add a special ending only obtainable by pretending to win all the boss fights that relentlessly mocks the player for being a complete wuss I'm gonna be very disappointed.

>>713664616
and yet they will survive into the 80's. can you say the same?
press □ to get pushed forward

>>713664975
prolly some lame shit like cheevos needing you to actually beat the section instead of pretending
for a game like this though, itd be funny if a pretender's structures are marked in some way

>>713664975
he won't

>>713653895 (OP)
Pretend it's a videogame and not a movie

>>713655598
>>713655705
>>713656087
I'm so glad game journalists are dying

Video games are all imaginary victories anyway. In real life you just lost time for nothing.

>>713653895 (OP)
What game is that anyways?

>>713665549
Instead of what? Working and making money so you can work and make more money tomorrow? That's the only non-waste?

>>713656087
>not playing the game isn't bad
Good point, I just beat death stranding 2 and I haven't even downloaded it.

>>713665137
And people pretend that Kojima is based?

>>713664529
If I want to talk about a game, cretins who IMAGINED they played the game, but didn't, will try to join the discussion but instead will just shit all over it just by existing

>>713653895 (OP)
at some point i just feel bad for people who play games like this, a story in a game without the gameplay is just some extremely low-rent b movie, game stories on their own are not good, they're made to be intertwined with playing the characters and overcoming obstacles so you can connect with their struggles in a way other mediums don't allow, and they're missing the entirety of it, it's a complete waste of time

>>713666673
it's so fucking over. i thought it was some cute edit by an anon but seems to be real
>https://deathstranding.fandom.com/wiki/The_America_of_the_Past
he should worry about his own japanese backyard with their new Blackrock immigrants.
fucking drone lol

>>713655598
there are people that claim they "beat" games or are "fans" of games that they watched online

>>713668052
Kojima also talked about america being a land of immigrants in MGSV but what that faggot hollywood-obsessed jap faggot doesn't understand is that the US has been at max capacity for immigrants for many many years now and that's why tensions are high, yet immigrants and wild brown people keep invading anyway and draining resources.

He SHOULD know all of this but he's a hollywood worshipping cultist so he still sees the USA as a place of infinity resources and opportunities like weird rich liberals do, which he is. He loves to preach about shit he literally doesn't know about or even live it himself, he's coddled away in rich areas of tokyo. Maybe he should talk about Japan's problems instead of constantly talking about the US in his games. Stupid movie obsessed faggot, I hate him so much.

>>713668371
>Kojima also talked about america being a land of immigrants in MGSV but what that faggot hollywood-obsessed jap faggot doesn't understand is that the US has been at max capacity for immigrants for many many years now and that's why tensions are high, yet immigrants and wild brown people keep invading anyway and draining resources.

>predominantly white country built around christian values, protestant or not.
>didn't abolish slavery at its inception in 1776 but one hundred years later in 1860
>english speaking
like i said, he's a pretentious little douche. ironically for which i got called out in another thread but for different reasons.
USA is not perfect and hypocritical in other areas (no taxation without representation @ illegals) but seems to be doing a great job so far

>>713668371
>He SHOULD know all of this but he's a hollywood worshipping cultist so he still sees the USA as a place of infinity resources and opportunities like weird rich liberals do, which he is. He loves to preach about shit he literally doesn't know about or even live it himself
yap

>>713666673
>>713668052
>nooo! why isn't the anti-war cosmopolitan successful artist a neo-nazi incel like me!?

>>713669126
>why isn't the anti-war cosmopolitan successful artist a neo-nazi incel
i couldn't care less. if I ripped out my ears I could enjoy the game. I just find it funny his grand vision accompanied with his word salad only goes so far. i hope one day his asshole gets rearranged in a thai or cambodian prison preaching for total freedom lol
>like me
see >713663594

>>713668052
christ

>>713656031
Giving you the option for it but making fun of you for it is good though.

>>713672150
The only reason why they added this option is because they know the game is tedious and boring to play. They"re main focus is to have the player watch the endless cutscenes and not the gameplay

>>713655598
Anon becomes example of "pretend you won" argument.

>>713655598
Authoritarians care about everything you do. Even how you wipe your ass.

>>713668052
We've been telling you all japan is a rotten incestuous matriarchal society of ass backwards beta males
Years have gone by, now you see the results of pax americana; everyone's a slave under the jew

>>713655598
Bingo.

It is not my fucking problem if somebody wants to play a game on story mode.

>>713672150
why not just put cheats in, like in the good old days? also "more options" isn't apriori good, though i do understand the sentiment

frankly, the real reason i hate all this difficulty """discussions""" is that they they inevitably focus on retarded journos that modern studios are obliged to cater to
don't like the game? drop it
get mad while grinding? cheat
if you're not having fun, why bother?

>La Creatividad creates a """difficulty""" tailor made for the Snoytranny audience
Base Kojimbo did it again!

>>713656031
It was only a matter of time.

Truly the greatest mind ever.

>>713655598
Why do you play games in the first place, if there is no challenge to it anymore?
Just go watch a movie at this point.

>>713655598
>>713674813
Easy mode in games degenerate the whole of society because manchildren will subconsciously understand that they can be shitters and still be given everything to them handed on a silver splatter, time passes and then they will carry on their baby habits to society at large.

>>713672150
then the next logical step is to give you the option and then not make fun of you. I swear you retards have shit for brains and can't understand the logic of "this happens then this will happen next"

>>713653895 (OP)
It's funny that it's somewhat insulting.

>>713664813
Except Kojima is very clearly approaching this as a "video game as interactive movie" angle, where the challenge exists to support a theme or narrative beat, rather than a demonstration of dedication and skill. It'd be asinine for a movie, novel, album, or piece of artwork to stop you halfway through and make you take a quiz on the first half, gating the conclusion behind a "demonstration of dedication and skill". Interactivity implies a demand of skill but does not intrinsically require it, hence journalist difficulties.

>>713675370
>the west has... le fallen because some fag plays his virtual toy on easy mode

grow the fuck up

>>713674774
i'm sorry anon. you were 100% right. now message the jannies and let them know too
>slicing your stomach open out of honor is beta male behavior?
>a real man hangs around after the rape? balls first?

So its just like how you guys jerk off every day instead of having sex

>>713668052
>Trump was one of the causes for the Death Stranding [Implied]
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP LMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>713675534
>making a retarded hyperbole in some pitiful attempt to demoralize my argument
yawn, so easy

>pay $70 plus tip for new video game
>proceed to skip all of the video game parts
>mfw I paid $70 just to watch the credits

>>713655598
>"let people enjoy things the way they want!"

reminder that everyone in this thread is never going to play the games that they love talking about for hours

>>713676394
This. Why is 4chan like this? They don't play games.

You could be playing a game right now.

>>713676394
>>713676483
i simply love who i am
i don't have a frog at hand but enjoy picrel reflecting my emotions

>>713676641
4chan doesn't play games. They are woke.

>>713675481
Kojimbo approach is flawed to begin with. Video games are not movies nor should they even try to in the first place.