Thread 713669762

>>713669762 (OP)
Impossible, I'm told that wokeness leads to financial success?!

>>713669762 (OP)
When you put everything on game pass day 1 for $15 bucks your company doesn't makeuch money

>>713669762 (OP)
Has there ever been a company that's improved with an Indian being put in charge?

Xbros...

>rumor
>may be
>expectation

>>713669762 (OP)
is phil, booty and bond included?

also fire everyone at 343 and get i.d. to make a halo game instead.

>>713669762 (OP)
Xbox snatched defeat from the jaws of victory too many times. Let it die. Shame there is no one to stand up against Sony. They are going to fuck up so much shit with no competition.

>>713669928
You say that but they still layoff people even during their profitable quarters. They are literally using the contractor loophole to pay people they worked with before less by hiring them through a contractor in a different company. They've been doing this type of thing for decades that it's their MO.

>>713669995
It's not even the pajeet. The board doesn't want to deal with a competent CEO. They just want a yesman.

>>713669762 (OP)
>studio makes critically and financially successful title
>will be gutted anyways because 343 sucks another giant cock yet again
who will it be this time xbros

sweet baby inc is hiring

>>713669762 (OP)
shills would say avowed,doom cuck age, midnight song all sold well.

>>713670263
Rare's last successful release was in 2018 with SoT. Battletoads their last actual release was in 2020.
Everwild has been in dev hell since 2014.
It'll be Rare

>>713669762 (OP)
>Set up a shit ton of different studios to make exclusive games
>The only thing to come out of them is some shitty unfinished vampire/zombie game, and uh.... one gears of war and halo game
>Everything gets shut down
How are they able to flush so much money down the drain. There must be some insane laundering going on here

which was the bigger flop, DOOM or Indiana Jones?

>>713670365
it will be blacks from south of midnight and cucks from hellblade 2 dev team. they are not touching bethesda or obsidian those are premier teams.

>>713670429
DOOM most likely but both underperformed iirc.

>>713670429
doom. indian jones is a dead franchise and the latest movies flopped AND its getting a new dlc. doom is supposed to be the face of shooters.

>>713670365
Bethesda will probably be some of the culled since Doom just came out

>>713669762 (OP)
Well, say goodbye to Obsidian Entertainment, Compulsion Games, and id Software, maybe Machine games too. I'm guessing Blizzard will probably be getting canned too, lol.

>>713670182
They will gut id instead because Doom Parry Slop edition didn't do the numbers.

>>713670671
nah they are not touching obsidian, blizzard,id, or bethesda. they will go after arkane, machinehead, compulsion, and rare.

>>713670671
Definitely gonna be a lot of the indie studios that have nothing immediate in the pipeline. I figured this would happen after they got Activision. They don't really want those smaller studios, they were just easy buys back then for quick exclusives that were unique.

>>713670671
>I'm guessing Blizzard will probably be getting canned too
Blizzard's probably one of the more safe things. At worst Microsoft will just scrap another unannounced internal project, but unlike most of the studios current under Xbox. Blizzard has stuff on the horizon that'll actually get released unlike Perfect Dark and Fable teams

>>713670762
Studios usually get a bunch of temps right before release of a game. iD will 100% have some let go

Don’t care, as long as they don’t mess up state of decay 3

If anyone is an American indie or AA studio, I advised not to allow yourself to be acquired by Microsoft. I think all of the smaller studios are fucked. Microsoft is only going to make Tentpole franchises, and the other ones will probably be given off to their publishing team. Xbox is truly dead

>>713671274
*acquired by any big AAA publisher

>>713670858
yea ms usually guts studios that have just released a game. its probably why they never release anything.
so id, whoever made south of midnight, maybe flight sim 2024 devs

>>713669762 (OP)

>Keep selling consoles at a loss
>Make mediocre first-party games
>Put everything on Gamepass thinking you will be the Netflix of gaming
>Don't Jew Gamepass up the way Netflix does its subs or Amazon does Prime when you realize it's a lossleader
They've been fucked for the last 8 years or so.

>>713671274
>Make tentpole franchises
What first-party games have they released in the last 15 years that anybody liked?

Nooooo, innocent devs should be allowed to keep projects in dev hell forever
Microsoft is evil, believe all game devs

>>713670838
It would be so funny if Fable got cancelled. Again.

>>713669995
Microsoft itself became far more valuable after Satya Nadella became the CEO, blame Xbox on Phil

>>713671620
Only Halo, Gears, COD, Fable, Perfect Dark, Fallout, and Elder Scrolls are on that list. Their small studios are getting fucked, hopefully Double Fine gets allowed to become independent again. What about Ninja Theory, forgot about them?

>>713671274
all their AAA games except cod flopped lmao. that hellblade 2 game was over 100 million for fuck sake

>>713671676
Glad I saw the writing on the wall for Xbox when they canceled their in-house handheld. Sinking ship

>>713669762 (OP)
Now would be the time to shutdown the entire gaming division, we're in an economic depression, no one wants what they are selling especially when ppl are worried about the price of groceries

>>713671814
Oh my god, it's over, lmao

This is all AI related. MS are at the forefront of AI adoption and AI can literally write code and shit now so I'm not surprised there are layoffs in tech. With that bring said, it probably won't affect xbox that much that the consumer will be able to perceive. They're the biggest publisher in all of console gaming so the business is healthy. And their games are finally receiving good reception.

uhhhh Fablers how we feeling???

>>713670182
Phil has tanked Xbox for more than a decade. He must have Mossad-quality kompromat on Nadella to be able to hang on this long.

>>713669762 (OP)
Xbox's first party games are so dog shit. Only thing I remember them showing is Persona 4 Revival trailer. Fable, Perfect Dark, new Halo, and whatever other slop they're making is going to flop.

About to go down.

>>713669762 (OP)
thanks AI
you will have no jobs and no opportunity anymore, enjoy the future

>>713671761
>allowed
lol
Schafer has had no fewer than 3 separate chances to run a studio on his own, including multiple times he's asked players to be his zero-risk-to-him investors
Dude cannot hack it as anything but an ideas man, with any luck he'll be one of the people canned and MS can start figuring out how to handle his IPs correctly
Same exact story for Obsidian, sadly enough

>>713671903
I think it's more Nadella doesn't see the point of Xbox except for MS prestige and nobody else at Xbox wants the job since they have no idea how to unfuck it without asking for investment, whereas Phil just says
>Don't increase our budget
>I can fix it

NOOOOOO HOW COULD MICROSOFT DO WHAT IT HAS BEEN DOING SINCE THE 90S!

>>713670465
>obsidian
>premier
In what fucking universe?

>>713672016
It seems like Nadella's mandate was 'get people into the MS ecosystem,' and with Xbox, that meant GamePass since they fumbled the hardware stuff so hard. MS has wanted to be the 'household entertainment device' since the 360, but it just never came together.

The division always runs in the red, IIRC. And I think they do fucky wucky accounting by lumping Xbox in with Windows or something when it comes to financial reporting.

All the best games I've played this year have either been xbox 1st party or day 1 gamepass. Oblivion remaster was hands down a dream come true.

>>713669995
Lol, lmao even

>>713671903
It's sort of the opposite
The only way to save Xbox was to avoid asking for more money, and to provide unbelievably high returns
Given this constraint and unrealistic ask, Phil has been an enormous success. It was always going to be a sinking ship, but he managed to delay the inevitable as long as possible while hoping for a miracle

They are going to lay off Compulsion Games AKA the devs of South of Midnight

Everyone saw this coming

>>713669995
sacking people is improving the bottom line - thats what every CEO does, and he gets a fat bonus for it too

Obsidian is the only studio actually hitting their deadlines and producing videogames, no way it's them who get cut down

>>713669762 (OP)
>Spend $70 billion on Candy Crush right when the mobile boom starts to end
>Doom The Dark Ages, Avowed and South of Midnight flop after nearly 5 years of cultivation and investment
Phil Spencer here, can someone help me out please? I'm really bad at budgeting

>>713669762 (OP)
>acquire studios
>shut them down
what's the name of this strategy?

>>713672446
Area Denial.

Eventually the great Satan of venture capital comes for all publicly traded corporations.

Consolidate, eviscerate, liquidate, annihilate

>>713671979
I wonder. His strategy of just churning out trash that makes it look like there are a lot of games on gamepass might keep him alive.

>Bloomberg News reported last week that Microsoft was planning another round, aimed at thousands of people with a heavy emphasis on sales and marketing roles

So they're fucking off a bunch of Indian marketers. It's fucking nothing.

>>713669762 (OP)
>MS creates policys to keep sexy and curvy ladies to a minimum to appease trannies
>Game sales plummets
Shocking!

>>713671897
On life Support after 3 and died after that trailer.
>>713672412
The phone market is such a mystery to me. Absolutely insane Candy Crush is such a money maker when it looks like a free newgrounds game.

The entire streaming model is a money pit, gaming or otherwise.

>>713672196
sars not like this

>>713669928
TPBP.

That and they DevHell shit. Remember Scalebound? Got cancelled after DevHelling for like 5 years.

Remember they bought Ninja Theory or whatever the fuck Donte Must Cry: DmC's studio was? HAS NOT RELEASED A GAME SINCE BEING BOUGHT!


Fable? DEVHELLED. Should've kept them as a Forza Horizon sweatshop.

The stuff they DO release? Flops. South of MidNagger? Flop.

X-box ROG? Flop before release ( >no trackpads )

X-box died when J. Allard left MS.

>>713672619
Old housewives play it. Old housewives are retarded.

>>713672446
The EA special

>>713672412
>70 billion
>Minecraft was just 2.5
how
HOW

>>713669762 (OP)
totally not gamepass' fault
nope
no way haha

>>713672708
Ninja Theory released Bleeding Edge and Hellblade 2. They both sucked ass and made no profit but still.

>>713672273
>playing Total War
>win battles
>take more cities
>build more armies because you need them to expand faster and defend your territory
vs.
>lose battles
>lose cities
>delete armies because you're running out of money
Which is more profitable and sustainable? Which player is a leader and which one is a doomed retard who's barely treading water?

I feel like gamers (especially people who play management games) of all people should understand what's wrong with modern institutions and their approach to economics and society as a whole.

>>713672446
Scorched earth

>>713669762 (OP)
xcuck fans will defend this

>>713672861
business and war logistics are two different things entirely.
m$ isn't "losing battles" or cities. the act of cutting off the bottom percentile is that it minimally affects the production of your main products, and then you flood the demand with new talent that you can pay less but are eager to work harder as they're establishing their own careers. this is literally what GE did for years and it got so successful that everyone started copying them.
obviously there's a limit to this (growth isn't limited), but no it's not a simple

>>713672861
Imagine that you, personally, got paid ten bucks for doing this, and it doesn't matter if it was sustainable because you can just quit the game and start a new one.

>>713673147
>m$ isn't "losing battles"
they are, on every front

>>713672708
>X-box ROG? Flop before release ( >no trackpads )
Just a branding deal, which is worse.

Why don't they just fund small indie sized games? I can't imagine those would be more risky than some 400 million dollar catastrophe.

>>713673296
They did with Pentiment. Probably didn't pull in many subscribers though.

>>713672005
Oh god, it's over, lol

>>713669762 (OP)
>Indian CEO greenlights layoffs
You watch, in a year or so they'll be hiring about that many Indians right back into those positions. It's the standard ploy whenever an Indian gets into a position of power in a company.

>Nintendo and Valve hold off on pushing graphics for years
>both keep making AA games instead of AAA slop thus spending less money on games because they saw this coming years ago
>Microsoft and Sony go full AAA wasting money on all these high-budget crap
>Nintendo and Valve continue to have massive success to this day while Microsoft and Sony are closing studios left and right and putting their games on Switch and Steam PC
Nintendo and Valve won, lmao

>>713669762 (OP)
A lot of useless studios like Double Fine

>>713669762 (OP)
Xbotbros not like this...

>>713673734
These MS layoffs are always irrelevant because they end up hiring more people than they laid off. Couldn't tell you why, maybe some legal loophole or something, but that's actually a fact. So they'll lay off like 1k people now but then hire like 1.5k people back.

>>713669762 (OP)
Data centers can never replace human soul. Your studio could produce either a million games no one will play
Or a handful of well respected bangers

>>713673147
They're more related than you think.
But not as related as some people in the business world think.

While the logistics questions are VERY similar, the biggest difference maker is what the "battle" that you need to win consists of. As a general, you're trying to trick, overpower, and defeat the enemy. As a businessman, you're trying convince the customer that your product is worth buying. So in that sense, they're opposites. And that's where modern entertainment companies fail; they view the videogame industry as a propaganda tool rather than a producer of entertainment products, and the customers that they need respond by giving them the finger.

>>713673207
Works great until you've sufficiently pissed off enough people. Just don't be a useful idiot and blame this on capitalism. It's socialism that's insulated them from consequences for so long. That's why they always push left wing ideology.

>>713673808
And yet Sakurai admits Nintendo needs to use AI to keep up.

>>713674335
If Nintendo starts using generative AI in the next 10 years, will the fanboys defend them, like always? Or will this be what finally makes some people stop liking them?

>>713674574
>will the fanboys defend them, like always?
of course
>Or will this be what finally makes some people stop liking them?
never happening

>>713672619
>Absolutely insane Candy Crush is such a money maker when it looks like a free newgrounds game.
They literally have entire teams entirely around planning on how to fuck with your mind the most so you spend money on games like Candy Crush

>>713670193
>Shame there is no one to stand up against Sony. They are going to fuck up so much shit with no competition.
Wasn't stopping them anyway, considering both intendo and xbox were increasing game prices. Competition among companies is a meme at this point, they're all working together behind the scenes.

>>713671897
I get the feeling this game is going to come out, if only out of spite for the gaming community.
>>713671979
Hasn't he been on permanent burnout vacation before even joining microsoft? He was just a prestige addition for that shitty mushroom game obsidian made, which flopped iirc.

>>713670193
Sony is fucked too, only Nintendo and Valve will exist as hardware companies.

>>713674574
>If Nintendo starts using generative AI in the next 10 years
They've already used it

One can only hope Blizzard will be decimated.

>>713669762 (OP)
About time, you fuckers all need some downsizing.

>>713670182
>also fire everyone at 343 and get i.d. to make a halo game instead.
I honestly don't why the fuck they haven't done this, same goes for why 343 gets chance after chance for royally fucking up the halo brand.

>>713674335
Sakurai is a freelancer, what does it matter what he says?

>>713670005
It's Xbover......

>>713669762 (OP)
And thus, the elder scrolls came to a close

So is everyone at rare working on everwild going to get shitcanned and the studio will just be sea of thieves updates

>>713675378
They already gutted 343 in 2023, studio is so small now they can only lead development while other studios make the game for them.

>>713675140
>mushroom game
he is credited for "additional narrative development" which means.... something
probably told him 'please come make sense of our shit' while he was working on outer worlds 2

>>713669762 (OP)
Damn that's like 30 studios. Who is going to make games now?

Shouldn't surprise anyone. The companies they bought needed restructuring otherwise they wouldn't have needed to be bought out. In this case, it's these wokeslop studios that need to be killed off.

>>713670365
They didn't even make Battletoads, it was outsourced.

>>713669762 (OP)
Fuck you for killing Duke, Broussard.

stonks must go up

>>713669762 (OP)
Oh no!
Anyways

diversity quotas must go down

>>713669762 (OP)
>Has 10k employees
>Can't produce a single noteworthy game
1-2k isn't enough. 3/4 of them should be shit canned.

>>713670182
They already fired nearly everyone at 343. Their next game is make or break.

iD is in the doghouse as well since Dark Ages flopped. (>I-i-it's a hit on Goypass! cope)

>>713671814
>all their AAA games except cod flopped lmao
depends on how you define aaa games. I think oblivion remake did really well. Other than those tho, it does seem to be L after L.

>"HEY FOLX REMINDER TO NOT MAKE YOUR TYPE B CHARACTERS CONVENTIONALLY ATTRACTIVE!"
Good riddance.

>>713675684
Wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't for the prestige shit. Like people hiring avellone just to have him as a writing credit on their game for a while years ago.

>>713675585
They shouldn't even be allowed to lead anything. Fire everyone.

>>713672269
Getting rid of both would help, but there would be a huge crunch in various industries (not just Tech that the Poos are in) over it.

>>713676127
Microsoft likes to keep Halo close at hand.

>>713675856
They shouldn't exist at all.

In fact, they're literally illegal.

>>713675910
CE remake and Halo 7 will save Halo, MP is fucked though. With Doom gone, Master Chief can take his woman (Samus Aran) back.

>>713669762 (OP)
Please God let them sell off Rare and their IPs.

>>713670238
Nah, Nadella is running MS into the ground as well.

>Azure Azure Azure!!!
>No wait, AI AI AI!
>FryCrying.gif as I.T. workers that aren't Poos have to deal with Microsoft's shitty UX to fix Windows 11 (because the Poos ruin it) and deal with the looming cliff that is "FUCK YOU; BUY NEW HARDWARE!" because MS wants businesses that just literally upgraded to rebuy new shit for their Windows 11 TPM requirements.

>Nobody does that, BTW, because that's fucking retarded
>MS in a panic extends support of Windows 10 if you pay $50 + 10 + 10 a year for three years.
>Nobody is wanting to do that and many consumers [not enterprise though some Governments are starting to explore the option] are looking at Linux and trying it out thanks to the 'Eck and Gay Ben seeing the writing on the wall when Nadella was attempting to wall-garden Windows 10 like Apple did their iToddler shit
>MS panics even more and now goes "pay us $30 [year? month? doesn't say] and make a MS account [ [Everybody Dislikes That.jpg] ] or pay us $20 in MS points for backup and "Free" extended Windows 10 support for an additional 3 years
>Nobody still wants to do that
>(You) are here.

The LAST good MS release? Windows 7 in 2009. CEO then? Steve Ballmer (a White Guy) until 2014.

Windows 8 shits the bed in UX (Tablet/touch screen? On MY PC? It's more likely than you think, clear here to not install this dogshit!) right at the end of his tenure (2012 so two years before he leaves) and Nadella is tapped during that period (IIRC the timeline right) and they have a transition period.

Everything since has been Nadella and MS throwing literal (DESIGINATED) shit at the walls to try to evolve their businesses and failing at it.

Nadella should've been fired like 5 years ago when Azure didn't eat AWS's lunch, but for some reason investors keep him around despite him still not firing Phil Spencer from the X-box department because Phil didn't correct Mattrick's fuck up.

(Comment too long)

>announces state of decay 3 five years ago
>no updates since

yeah they are gone

>>713676401
I doubt CE or 7 saves the series. Infinite's multiplayer was shadow dropped and that kept the series around for a bit longer than the campaign. I don't recall ANY buzz for Infinite/6's campaign since you had to pay for it and everyone is sick of 343's dogshit releases.

I hold out COPEium that Pierre (the person that sort of unfucked the MCC PC release) can turn the ship around, but I'm not holding my breath. The studio is fucked. It's just how many days they're numbered just like Bungie at Sony.

>>713676785
>Post hits character limit
Fuck that shit, BTW. I could rant about how shitty MS has gotten post 2010/Ballmer for hours. And I FUCKING HATED BALLMER as well.

You're telling me it's not a viable business strategy to hire semi-literate DEI nogs and pay them 400 million dollars to sit around for 8 years doing nothing on a project that you'll eventually cancel?

>>713671979
this nigga earns $200,000 to do nothing, he is invincible.

>>713669762 (OP)
You hear that XBOX is going after children with their politically woke games like Kreaturekind?

>>713670365
Rare didn't make the new battletoads

>>713676986
Nobody does that outside of retarded memes here. You people seriously need to come back down to Earth.

>>713676952
The studio won't be doing most of the work going forward, so Microsoft found a way to keep it going by releasing multiple games from singleplayer-only remakes and sequels, multiplayer-only games, and spin-offs that could either be FPSs or different genres similar to what's done with Warhammer 40K.

>>713669928
Day 1 Game Pass didn't stop Expedition 33 from making money. The problem is they are shit at marketing their own games and equally bad at making good games.

>bring out your death,bring out your death
after todd is gone (2 more game) Bethesda in Maryland you might be next

>>713677389
>Nobody does that outside of retarded memes here
you would be surprised

>>713673296
Small indie sized games need good ideas and talent, that's hard. With AAA you can compensate a lot through big budgets and legacy IPs.

>>713677551
>another one to join the ack

>>713669762 (OP)
>Buy studios
>Fire everyone
>Hoard Ips
>Sell all your assets to tencent for a 10% of their value

What is this business strategy called?

>>713676634
kek they wont sell shit but rather keep them in their infinite graveyard to die for good as many other big corpos do

>>713677389
>You people seriously need to come back down to Earth.
Tell MS that, because 3/4th of their bought studios HAVE NOT RELEASED A GAME.

You can blame some of that on MS's mismanagement (Scalebound, Phantom Dust 2 being executive meddled into the graveyards) but a lot of it is the studios durdling around with no deadline/time tables to hit milestones or face the wall to where they pay people to "research" shit and they shit out a CGI trailer and do NOTHING in regards to a release date.

Like the only studios that are ACTIVELY publishing things are:

-Beth and their subsidies they bought (iD and Obsidian IIRC)
-Obsidian (if not a Beth subsidie)
-Activision and it's subsidies (bought mostly for King [mobile] and Call of Duty)
-Playground games (well... before Fable)
-Turn 10 (somewhat, they've gotten Kazunori Yamauchi syndrome where they bloat out Forza MOTORSPORT [not Horizon] and make it a once every other generation title now) (support studio for Playground Games Forza HORIZON games until Playground was assigned Fable which is Devhelled right now)
>Mojang (Minecraft, and they're skeleton crewed for Bedrock/Java with them licensing Minecraft IP for stuff like Minecraft Dungeons [not them IIRC, but I might be wrong on that])

And that's about it.

>Double-fine
Releases a game once in a blue moon, a terrible purchase
>Ninja Theory
Hasn't released a game since purchase. First against the wall.

Could go down the list and list all the other studios that haven't released shit since MS purchased them.

MS is *notorious* for fucking up with studios they purchase. FASA (remember them?) and others before "Microsoft Games Studios" was even a thing and the X-box (Original) released had them having that reputation.

>>713677389
>Nobody does that
EA literally did that with that Black Panther game they had to cancel because the devs just took the money and did nothing for 2 years

>>713670263
>>713670365
The thing is that 10k is about 8 studios.
So I am guessing the studio behind Song of the South or whatever that was called, definitively Rare and inXile despite them doing nothing wrong.

In fact I am going to say everyone but Id Software and Activision / Blizzard assets.

Not a crash btw, GTA will fix everything.

>>713669762 (OP)
>make massive profits
>fire the plebs and roll their bonuses into your offshores
It just works.

>>713677538
Most JRPG players don't RENT their titles. Goypass wasn't an issue there. Also MS didn't publish it.

>>713672265
I actually played through that. Wouldn’t be bad if it was as modest budget as it looks

>>713677727
Global Communism

So when should we be expecting the official cancellation? 3 days max?

>>713670429
DOOM could had been good if not because the fucking game was made to market High-end Nvidia cards.
The latest update uses more proprietary Nvidia bullshit.
Add to that that Gamepass kills games and well... and executives are the last people to be fired from any globohomo company so Microsoft as a whole is unsalvageable.

>>713670671
They will kill InXile first much like how they kill Tango despite them being the only profitable studios.
Game development in the west is a mafia and InXile made the mistake of not hiring trannies that could pull some strings.
I mean Arkane is still around despite Redfall.

>>713678046
Doesn't matter how good/bad it was. It flopped. Studio's dead man/girl walking unless they can convince Phil their next title is actually going to sell.

>>713677727
moral and thinkers bankruptcy a money laundery scheme to survive another day for line must go up
gutting the people sitting in their mines not the over bloated do nothings wearing ties

>>713677910
For PlayStation, maybe, Xbox is dead.

>>713678064
Grim.

skiving trannies(transbians) getting the boot is always good news

>>713669762 (OP)
Suffah Xbox

>>713678156
Arkane is under Beth. I don't think Microsoft is going to fuck with Beth (as shitty as their recent outputs have been) or Activision (don't really need to on this one as long as Call of Duty continues to sell across all platforms).

Those two and like Mojang are their only smart purchases. And Beth is starting to lose luster, so it's only a matter of time before they break Beth down and kill them (or send them back to Zenimax, which still owns ESO if I remember right?)

>>713670429
>"GAMES ARE TOO EXPENSIVE, COST COSTS!"
>okay
>lays off staff
>"NOOOOOOOO!"

>>713677820
>Song of the South
lmao dude

>>713672861
>Which is more profitable and sustainable?
WS is a scam and companies are living off endless loans they disguise as profit.
So it is not the same thing.

The next crash will definitively deal a fatal blow to a lot of tech companies.
Microsoft much like Yahoo are living fossils.

>>713671979
I pray for it. The husk of Obsidian has been on the MS teat for too long, hiding their failures behind CODpass anonymity and accountability.

>>713669762 (OP)
Based based based based

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/gaming/accessibility/xbox-accessibility-guidelines/108

https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/games/resources/productinclusion/product-inclusion-actions/help-customers-feel-seen/

Every game ruined and now they shall suffer.

The wokeness dates back to Forza Horizon 4 times where they made the females extremely ugly compared to the 3rd game.

>>713678257
chud you simply cant just fire an endangered species b-bbecause you can't !

>>713670429
Doom, easily. Goypass probably undercut sales but it flopped massively.

Indiana Jones underperformed but didn't outright bomb, if I remember the sales numbers right.

>>713678315
Kikesoft has released so many flops lately, the suits must be furious.

I unironically hope the EA Guy that's working in the Fallout 76 team gets fired.

>>713678291
So, most of Xbox Game Studios is biting the bullet for Bethesda and ABK, at least for now?

>obsidian gutted
>punished avellone takes sawyers place
please

>>713677535
We'll see, but I don't think Halo has the cachet it used to have so a contracted studio has a REALLY tough time getting folks to pay attention after the damage Frank "Bisexual Jannie" O'Connor did sitting around racist shitposting on NeoGAF and NeoGAF 2.0/ResetERA instead of fixing his studios output.

Once you go woke, you go broke

>>713669995
You could argue Pepsi but I know most of this board is about to get riled up over this comment

is /OURGUY/ Tim Schafer safe?

>>713678502
Microsoft is retarded thinking PlayStation will save them when even that's on its way out.

>>713672094
in the universe they made grounded which was WILDLY successful

>>713670429
Dark Ages and Indiana Jones are objectively great games. They play great and are phenomenally optimized. And those two studios are the only ones who know how to use the idTech engine. No smart company would touch either of those studios. Instead you blame the audience for being dumb zoomers that don't recognize classic IPs and give those teams more marketable projects next time.

Game Pass was the worst idea ever

>>713678291
Bethesda can operate on 76 profits alone
Zenimax are making so much money from ESO there is no pressure on Beth to make 6.
Don't underestimate degenerate box gamblers.

>>713678392
>sales numbers
it bombed without even knowing them. nobody fucking knows about that game.

>>713678156
its actually insane how u got a first party studio sucking up to nvidia for a b2b agreement which paid off some of the development cost

>>713677246
expected. leftist pedos love their children.
the entire XGP catalog is 90% woke btw.

>>713678682
Its great for me I always have good stuff to play, havent had to visit a gamestop in like 2 years

>>713672167
Same here. One hell of a run. I don’t see a lot of upcoming stuff though

So, Halo Studios, The Coalition, Turn 10, Playground Games, The Initiative, Rare, Xbox Publishing, Bethesda, and ABK are safe because they made Microsoft happy or have something giving MS money, who's on the chopping block?

>>713678765
look again moron

>>713678682
Gamers are beyond redemption. Completely deranged brand loyalists and consoomers.
>whine that nobody gives gamers "good games"
>release a service that does exactly that
>gamers bitch and shriek and whine and piss themselves
>everyone who rather roleplay CEO than play games because they're goddamn fucking liars

Just fucking fess up and admit you're a fucking Snoy movie gamer. Just fucking admit it you pathetic wretch of shitstain.

>>713670543
doom's engine was always freeware.
entire genres built on top of doom's engine.
both unreal engine and source engine were built on top of doom's engine too.
thats where its legacy comes from. thats what they mean by it being the grandaddy of all shooters. not that it came early, but that they all trace their code to doom.
doom lost its relevancy the moment it stopped doing that with doom 3. it just became another successful franchise among many others, instead of being the patriach of entire genres.

>"Maikel, ket off ta kouch ant aktivate zee detrooner and zet it to 11 ya!"
>"No proplam meister, detrooner skill rune, aktivated!!!"

>>713678481
Essentially, yeah. Microsoft (like Deep Silver) gobbled up a shit ton of studios but haven't done ANYTHING with their purchases and now are facing the same shit Deep Silver faced.

DS had to sell I.P.'s (like Tomb Raider when they bought Edios from Square-Enix) because they were literally eating money keeping those I.P.'s in their ownership with nothing to show for it (Deus Ex got no sequel, as an example and they killed the Human Revolution studio if I remember my timelines right).

This is just the reaper finally coming to get it's payment for MS delaying the inevitable.

>>713678620
I think MS going multiplat is a good thing, actually. The problem is a lot of their shit really is not worth playing. Horizon 5 going Playstation gave it a shot in the arm in comparison to PC/X-box only Horizon 3 (UWP only) and 4 (Steam included) had as a player base. But I haven't actually checked Horizon 5 PS5 launch's numbers and with how everything is digital sales now a days that's a bit harder to actually gauge.

>>713678717
76 has players like ESO, but I don't necessarily know if that is making 1:1 profits or breaking even like ESO is doing. And even ESO is somewhat struggling (finally added multiclassing [in a way] after... 10? 14? years from launch?) to keep players right now.

>>713678665
>how to use the idTech engine.
Unironically, pre-MS Beth fucked up not allowing the Doom/Quake/Rage engines to be licensed to folks and getting out of the middleware market. The reason Unreal Engine is shit right now is because iD stopped pumping out middleware to where Epic doesn't need to optimize their shit (nanites/etc.) and so Nvidia takes advtange of dogshit engines to sell hardware to brute force said dogshit engines now.

>>713678682
Yeah.
But I am guessing it was an idea that emerged out of desperation.
The people who have all the money are boomers who only understand references to other stuff so the idea possibly emerged when Boomers heard of Netflix and someone said that they should turn games into Netflix and since traded companies rely on their public perception (See Tesla not earning a fucking cent in its entire span) well there you go...

We all knew a crash was coming.
Even Nintendo pricing is fucking stupid but they do not sell their consoles at a loss.

>>713669928
Serious question: How is Game Pass' business model even sustainable?
If we take a look at other similar services like Spotify, it's very obvious creators don't make money from it. It's mostly an advertisement platform for upcoming releases and concerts.
With Game Pass creators and publishers should get a portion of money for the time their games are played, right? Then what happens when Game Pass reaches its upper limit for customers, since gamers are finite, but the catalog of available games keeps growing. Then it surely will reach a breaking point where devs won't want to put their games there because it would be a loss of money. Unless they put just demos or pure mtx slop.

>>713678858
They're not going to close studios, but they're simply going to cut employees in areas where they can be replaced by people from other countries or AI

>>713679364
Phil has the answers faggot

Maybe if they made the games $90 they'll be saved

>>713678904
I agreed with you, sniveling faggot. Here’s what I see
2025
>tony hawk
>outer worlds
>wuchang
>ninja gaiden I guess
2026
>fable
>OD
It doesn’t come close

>>713669995
No. Pajeets become CEOs because they are golems who choke on shareholder balls 24/7 and thats sole reason. They have no personal agenda,principles or anything like that apart from hiring other pajeets and do everything to make shareholders happy and what shareholders want. Theres a reason why shareholders despised Ballmer and other CEOs who had personal projects and objected when it comes to stuff while ALL pajeet CEOs in those companies just do everything to see line go up so their white and jewish masta shareholders will let them suck sweat of their balls.

>>713678858
>Coalition
I wouldn't be so sure. Sure, they're releasing Gears of War 1 (and only 1, where the fuck is 2-3?) again in August, but Gears 5 was pretty poorly received (but sold well) and E-day is still TBA for a release date (2026 IIRC? Might be delayed?)

Rare I could see some layoffs from. But I'd say 80% safe despite that being one of the worst purchases MS did with how they've handled Rare.

Beth and ATVI are 100% safe though.

it's over

>>713678916
>doom lost its relevancy the moment it stopped doing that with doom 3
Nigger, Doom 3 source code is publicly available but as anyone who mods 3D games will tell you, working with 3D engines is fucking hard, reason why at most what you see are cheats and the like.

Id Tech code did not become closed sourced until Rage.
The thing is that Source Engine blew them out the water and Id was not longer the tip of the spear when it came to 3d game technology.
And even then Id Software released their version of Hammer for Doom Eternal.
Something I will always cherish because I asked for that personally to Hugo Martin.
I will feel sick if the layoffs hit Id Software.

>>713678749
>which paid off some of the development cost
It was not worth it at the end.
This seems something Ms pushed given Eternal was ported to the Nintendo Switch, so they went from making a phenomenon to making something as taxing as crysis except Dark Ages is nowhere near as impressive.
If anything Nvidia tech showcases why Jewnvidia is a fucking a joke and a blight to the market and it so sad AMD is once again generations behind.

>be studio under microsoft
>have no choice but to put your game on gamepass
>it flops because people dont buy it and instead pay for gamepass and play your game
>oops your game flopped get laid off

>>713679364
>Serious question: How is Game Pass' business model even sustainable?
Do the math retard. $15/mo *35 million subscribers = $525 million per month or $6 billion in revenue per year.

>>713679364
>How is Game Pass' business model even sustainable?
It's not. Why do you think Netflix and all the streamers Goypass copied from are raising prices and putting in "Ad-tiers" for folks that can't pay the +$5-10 increase Netflix/et. al. are doing?

>bro its ai
>bro its nadella
>bro the actual moviegame studios wont be touched (they are all infected with dei transvestites)
>bro the talented idtech people wont be affected (they are too infected with dei transvestites)
>bro gamepass is the cause of this
>bro the audience doesnt recognize these ips
>bro the games are too expensive

>>713671903
This fucking guy is always so coke and booze bloated at e3 you can't even tell if he has his eyes open or closed just fucking fire him already

>>713679631
Except that is not what is happening.
The $1 offer is available to anyone by making a free account and MS does not pump games fast enough. Anyone who wanted to play Dark Ages made a new account and paid $1 for it.

Gamepass is the worst idea ever.
Even the big streaming services have to raise prices every year.

The funny part is that gaming already had a viable subscription model in MMOs.
Whoever came up with the Gamepass is the biggest dumbfuck who ever lived.

>>713679853
>The $1 offer is available to anyone by making a free account
Didn't they shut that offer like last year?

>>713679853
Why are gamers the most fucking retarded consumers ever? If a company is offering a deal so good it's losing them money, why aren't you taking advantage of it? Why aren't you playing the games you claim you so desperately crave? Could it be you're a fucking liar?

>>713669762 (OP)
>[sad news]
This is so grim bros...

>>713669762 (OP)
obsidian bros...

>>713679483
We all know they want to rise it up to $100 as fast as possible.

>>713680059
Because Windows is fucking garbage and I will never use it again.
But the average Joe doesn't care about that and he still doesn't give a fuck about Xbox

>>713679631
And how much of that goes to devs and publishers before people play what they want and then unsub?

>>713680365
That's the neat part: It doesn't. They have to have a certain amount of eyeballs on their rental (per hour for that user) similar to Spotify and artists making like $.10 for every 1,000 streams of their song(s) on there.

It's why the Day One Goypasses get fucked over.

>>713680260
150 final offer

>>713680059
>If a company is offering a deal so good it's losing them money, why aren't you taking advantage of it?
what logic is that? the person paying isn't gaining money, they're losing money too

>>713680365
>>713680463
kill yourself

>>713680059
I would rather spend the full amount on Steam then waste even a cent on Microsoft crappy subscription service. They permanently lost me as a customer.

>>713669762 (OP)
its just all being moved to india

>>713680591
I would rather you kill yourself.

>>713669762 (OP)
>get bought up by americans
>get shut down in less than 5 years
How many times does this pattern need to repeat before Europeans stop selling their most important companies to these stupid monkeys.

>>713669995
They make money but at the expense of everything the company stands for because people from the third world believe in nothing.

>>713680524
No. <3 You first though.

>>713680524
great argument

>>713678905
Xbots are seething THIS hard because nobody buys their games?

>>713680059
>If a company is offering a deal so good it's losing them money, why aren't you taking advantage of it?

They are taking advantage of the system because MS overlooked how it works in actuality and people cancel right away. Much like how Netflix accounts used to be shared with the entire population of Africa, people will find a way to get more out of their money in way that was not intended. There are ways to abuse the system. I think you could get like Disney+ for a year for $15 through a VPN and buying from a Scandinavian store or something a few years back. Stuff like that and that is not the most egregious example.

As for the Goypass, most people play one game per month at most, so what good does it do to you to have access to 30+ titles when you will be playing 1 or 2 of them? It makes sense for streaming, it does not make sense for videogames. You are hurting the sales of your own studios and the thing is that MS had a good model in Xbox Live Gold.
Sure it was a ransom you had to pay to play online but was profitable for Microsoft.
The Gamepass is a moneypit.

>>713680059
>If a company is offering a deal so good it's losing them money, why aren't you taking advantage of it
because then you'd be the retard for falling for it again. Companies never "lose money" on purpose, they invest. If they are at a loss it's because they are honeypotting to catch consumers and then squeeze them for all their money.

>>713680726
Cope, streetshitter

>>713680952
Wow I could forgo my right to sue disney for only $15 through vpn? What a steal!

>>713680059
I'd rather blow 15 bucks in a Steam sale every month

>>713673296
They dont have any talent left, every studio they own is either a zombie or full of retards, giving them creative freedom doesnt actually result in anything worthwhile because there's nobody left who wants anything more than a easy, stable pay cheque.

When you go so long without making new IP or playing with original ideas you completely lose the ability to do so, every major microsoft studio is now just geared to make remakes and boring sequels.

Maybe make games that people want? Avvowed, Redfall, Hellblade 2, Doom The Dark Ages, and South of Midnight isn't it. But considering MS/Xbox has a mandate on studios not making attractive female characters with sexy armor it's not surprising that they aren't making games that gamers want. The next Fable and Perfect Dark game already look fucked.

>>713679235
People are unironically eating up the Atomic Shop every month like piranhas so it doesn't surprise me in the slightest

>>713680260
>>713680486
Bros imagine how sustainable the Xbox division could be if the price for games was $200...

Sledgehammer games is lucky they proved themselves with MWIII or they would be getting shafted with the rest just leaving Treyarch and IW as the lead devs for cod titles

>>713674886
yeah. they have more psychologists working on it than developers

>>713681135
The funny thing is, sexy females aren't the only thing that sells games. Sure, it is a good boost, but Stellar Blade is a honestly good game. People want good games they can buy, play and be done with it. If it has eye candy even better. Nothing wrong with that.

>>713680524
Curry breath is not even trying anymore.
>>713680463
The entirety of the gamepass needs to be reworked.
If I was in charge I would go back to the Xbox Gold model and offer demos that grant exclusive items. The best idea MS could have is cross-saves.

Picture this; you get an exclusive item if you buy Gears of War on Xbox but you can transfer your save file, content and achievements over to Steam later on. This way, day one exclusivity begins to make sense. You capitalize on FOMO and when the game is available on Steam, people are more likely to buy the game twice later on in a sale if only to have their achievements displayed there alongside everything Steam offers.

I have no idea why the industry is not capitalizing in cosmetics. MTX is a massive market.
Watching EGS lose money when all they have to do is offer v-bucks and skins with purchases is baffling.

>>713679502
>>tony hawk
ABK still works independently from Xbox.
I don't think Phil can tell them anything. They have to report to somebody higher up in Microsoft, not to Phil.
Compared to Xbox studios, Activision is profitable.

>>713678543
safely behind bars

>>713681113
>They dont have any talent left
this is a bigger problem than most think. microsoft paid billions to acquire these studios. everyone with stocks in them, cashed out for big $$$ as soon as they vested and left.
>>713672446 see above

>>713681351
Still have no idea why cod hasn’t adopted the free base game with DLC and cosmetics model. Having one evolving title with DLC campaigns and side modes would be a lot better than just resetting everyone’s shit every other year

>>713677727
microsoft had too much cash lying around due to their cloud service. so they spent/gambled it like a gambling addict

>>713669762 (OP)
>buy a bunch of studios
>don't make any games with them
>close them down
What is this business strategy called?

>>713681135
Using Stellar Blade as an example is weird when Xbox can just try making games more like 33 expedition.

>>713681453
because retards still pay for it.

i saw a linus tech tips video yesterday on how ziff davis & etc buy out respected websites only to spam them with SEO articles and devalue the entire thing, and once the value aint there any more they just do mass layoffs, sell off or disband the company, and buy someone else

is this the same thing microsoft is doing except in the vidya space?
https://youtu.be/RNonfByE9xc?t=762

>HURR DURR JUST MAKE GOOD GAME
>releases good game
>*crickets*
All of you should kill yourselves.

>>713681348
Xbox main problem is making lame ass games. Even their cool games like Halo and Gears have become lame. The next Fable misses the point of being a power fantasy RPG game. You play as an ugly female for god's sake. Xbox used to be a cool console to own thanks to games like Halo, DOA, Ninja Gaiden, Fable and Gears but now no longer.

>>713681597
PARRY SLOP

>>713681084
Lol.
I mean it is an example, $15 for an entire year of a streaming service.
We are talking about people willing to pay for stuff here, not anon and his 2 private trackers and holy shit some people buy the invites now.

The point being is that subscription services are terrible for everyone.
You could argue piracy is worse except streaming affects the end costumer, people willing to pay for your product. Theaters for example, watching a movie now cost $200 for the entire family (accounting for snacks and parking) when they could wait 3 months for the streaming release.
Let's not forget we are in a shitty economy and entertainment is the first place people will look at to cut expenses.

Gamepass is not attractive enough because one the PC app is disastrous, and owning a console so you end up renting games is kind of stupid when MS does not have a killer app.
They are trying to sell me on a subscription service that is $20 a month and all they have to show up for it is a single player AAA game that I can beat in a week and a bunch of indie games? That does not make sense to me.
We are living in a Nintendo / PC era with PS barely hanging in there.
Xbox is a non player.

>>713681597
>>releases good game
Where? I hope you don't mean that glorified simon says piece of shit

>>713681539
That game did much better on PC than on the Xbox. Not even Xbox owners buy games anymore and only rely on Gamepass.

how many failures will they need before they realize that gamepass is a money sink that costs more money than it makes, and making multiple big budget titles like indiana jones barely increases user retention if at all?

>>713681563
I think MS had every intention of running these studios well and getting them producing with their IPs etc. The problem was MS just made all their organizational problems worse (and they were already large, mature companies already which comes with efficiency issues) plus this MS shakeup hit all these companies at roughly the same time due to their insane buying spree and like right after was COVID. I think the shocks just killed a lot of what they had in the pipeline and MS couldn't provide the structure/guidance they said they could. Plus, MS thought they were "diversifying" but AAA is so homogenized now that none of these brands/IPs have unique draw or killer gameplay features anymore. They're all following the same, safe template even though the MS should theoretically give them the freedom to experiment.

Xbox should just shift into being a budget prebuilt gaming PC line. Microsoft can easily port the Xbox dashboard into windows and have those prebuilt gaming PCs launch into it on startup with the option to leave into a full windows environment

>>713681597
>doom dark ages
>good
fucking lmao the game is a glorified bop it dude

>>713670193
Sony already has problems making games this generation. Games for next gen console will be even more expensive and take even longer to make. They already stated to expect at least one game from them per year for the PS5 going on forward. Ouch.

>>713681597
Imagine taking Doom and making it lame and gay

>>713681626
Them putting their shit on everything else also defeats the purpose of even owning an Xbox, what is their identity now? They're just another third-party swimming in a sea full of third parties. Their only competition before was Sony and Nintendo, now it's a slew of third parties.

>>713681790
This can't be real

FUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>713681812
>Switch for hybrid console and handheld
>Xbox for hybrid console and PC
>Playstation for the tradition console expirence
The true end of console wars

>>713669762 (OP)
>appeal to chuds
>shut down the next day

>>713681597
You want to make a game people want to spend money on. It doesn't matter if it's good or not.

>>713681135
>Doom The Dark Ages
That could had been a good game rebranded as Heretic and I would had bought it but it was not anything the fans asked. Eternal already shaped itself as a great game and expectations were high.
Dark Ages comes off as an executive mandate and a complete let down.
I might pick it up when the Master Levels release and the game gets a 50% discount on Steam.
Anyways what went wrong with DA specifically is that it was tailor made for High End GPUS most people do not own.
It is this gen Crysis.

South of Midnight is actually good but much like Control, well pic related...

As for Stellar Blade, I agree with the other anon that it is a good game despite being coomer bait, and yes I bought it.
That said I feel the game is making waves among brown people because muslims are sexually repressed, Chinese are neurotic and want western women desperately and Hindus are essentially apes that fap constantly, it simply resonates with most of the planet. So yeah, you are not wrong but I think the Perfect Dark model was not that bad to call it a tranny, I feel /v/ exaggerated on that regard but that is just me.

>>713679364
don't forget that the original "good" edition of gamepass came out (circa?) 2017, when microsoft realized xbone won't catch up to ps4 after fumbling at the starting line so hard
psplus was mostly about smaller and older games, and not the big overhyped releases, xbox trying to one up that with a deal so good it lost them too much money
frankly, without microsoft cash transfusions, xbox would have croaked like ten times over

>>713670671
With Obsidian they will only keep the Grounded team since it's their most successful game in forever. Avowed flopped and The Outer Worlds 2 will underperform since the first game wasn't any good and forgotten.

>>713682036
>Xbox for hybrid console and PC
Who are you kidding? Games are literally invisible if they don't launch on Steam. And MS really wants to own it but they don't

>>713682032
Yep, why do you think it was a massive failure outside of goypass? lmao

Reminder, that thinking growth of console gaming was going to continue after the two boom periods (2007 and 2020 Covid year) is what killed the AAA industry. Once these companies get a taste of even a little money, they somehow think it's going to last.

They just acquired one of the biggest game publisher/developer in the gaming industry for $3 billion and that means a shit ton of redundant jobs.

No matter if you're XHoe or Sony pony all people can agree from a business stand point the lay off makes sense.

>>713681790
>>713682221
>Doom but for 6 year olds
Bravo Microsoft

>>713682258
They are not laying off ABK people lmao.

We are basically basically just in a transfer of power at this point. Smaller studios will rise up as all the cocky larger ones fail to see why people like gaming and buying gaming products

>>713669762 (OP)
think of all the games that will die :(

>>713682036
Why the hell would I get an Xbox or PlayStation when you can just get a Steam Deck 2 in 2027? There's no longer a reason to get either of those.

>>713682386
I can only get so erect

>>713681523
The Philicide.

It's because of ai
If you haven't used ai in a while it's gotten substantially better
They are betting that the next models will be the same step up

>>713682347
Smaller dev games aren’t selling either. Every game is failing hard

>>713669762 (OP)
Fable is never coming out

>>713681739
>>713681790
>>713681934
>>713681981
Go coom to your gacha NFTs

>>713682083
At least you're honest.

>>713681597
I am the biggest Doom Eternal shill on this here Mongolian basket waving board and no way dude.
The game was made to sell high-end Gpus and to pander to all the people who got filtered by Eternal.
The game is receiving updates to make the game harder but the damage is already done.
The dragon was updated to feel less like a turret section and behave more freely but alas, too late.

The game is all the downsides of the modern series and it is a let down to the fanbase Eternal and Doom 2016 created. Eternal and Doom 2016 spawned and entire subgenre that the indie market already surpassed.
It is not that parry does not work in a FPS as much as that Dark Ages implemented it poorly.

I need to get something off my chest.
Much like how I do not like Stellar Blade design because it is too provocative, Dark Ages leans in the other direction. Thira original design was great but then it was changed at the request of some fucking MTG tranny (look up and employee called Avacyn Shurmon) and Thira was buried in 7 layers of clothing and made her ugly for some fucking reason.

That is enough evidence for me to believe Bethesda was micromanaging the game reason why it sucks, I mean there are more reasons like the level design being objectively dogshit and the music is trash but you could argue that DA was made on a tight schedule. I really hope Id software turns this game around but I feel it will be for nothing.

>>713682094
>South of Midnight is actually good
No it isn't. I'll stand by Indiana Jones and Dark Ages because they're genuinely good games. Avowed and South of Midnight are generic and forgettable.

>>713682386
more like the games that were never born because of MS interference

>>713682576
>Go coom to your gacha NFTs
No thanks I rather play my ps2 games instead but enjoy your dead parryslop I guess lmao

>>713669762 (OP)
Tech market in general is fucked but good lord am I glad I never got into videogame dev

>>713669762 (OP)
And nothing of value was lost. The only shame is that it wasn't 100%.

>>713682724
The art direction is great and I would put it next to Trine. A little bland but it was fine and comfy.
I will debate you on Indiana Jones. The game looks extremely dated, you could tell Machine Games made it using on Id Engine for how much it looks like Wolfenstein. The game looks very dated.
It has its moments but it is bland and irritating.
I would recommend Uncharted over Indiana Jones any day.

>>713681793
You know what I hate? If you put her in a lineup of female characters from western games over the past decade, she'd be attractive by comparison, but by 2003 standards, she's a butch.

We should swing even further than 2003 and go all-in on what we dreamed gaming would be as 90s kids.

>>713681597
gay

>>713682707
Bro there is no fucking way you can tell me with a straight face that Dark Ages has a bad combat model when shit like Elden Ring blows up. You autists destroy your own genre with perfectionism while normies slurp up slop.

>>713682707
Production companies should be banned from buying smaller studios.

>>713682751
You are no gamer if you don't invest in new games. You're nothing more than a passive bystander

>>713682859
Wolfies were good looking thoughbeit
(nta)

All these jobs are just being replaced with Indians and Chinese.

The gaming industry is just turning gaming into a sweatshop. Why pay a bunch of hipsters in San Francisco $80,000+ a year + benefits and lease out office space for $7million a year when you can just outsource some temp for hire programmers in India for literally 5% or that cost.

Fire 1000 first worlders and hire 3000 Indians and save about 80% of the cost doing so.

>>713682969
>You are no gamer if you don't invest in new games
Good I fucking hate that term you don't call someone who watches movies a watcher do you?

>>713682916
>Let's introduce more regulation to fix the problems caused by investment firms that are insulated by socialism and regulation!
The solution to most of our problems is for people to realize the evils of socialism and for men to rediscover their spines, especially when dealing with women.

>>713683014
The level design on TNC was fucking garbage.
I have no idea how they made Call of the Machine but this as well.
I swear the best part of TNC was Wolfenstone and it is still Wolf 3D reskinned.

>You kill a jewish doctor trying to vaxx you
Fucking kek.

>>713669762 (OP)
>Gamepass is good for gami-ACK
>players not sal-ACK

I have a gut feeling most of 343 is getting shut down and they are going to move one of the cod devs over to “modernize” the IP

>>713683152
I agree, socialism should be banned, it would fix a lot of problems as it leads to nazism or communism. Companies that practice it should be punished. These smaller game companies should also stop allowing themselves to be acquired.

>>713683293
The Jeet already sold the company and has a boat filled with white women. He had the last laugh.

Sickening. I'm sure its even more frustrating when you're working for one of the biggest companies in the world. Layoffs on this scale are always ridiculous and cruel but even more insane given how much money they have and how much they were willing to sling on acquisitions. They have the money to keep them, no excuse.

>>713683293
Perfect example of what went wrong with these acquisitions. They would have gone bankrupt releasing nothing but those Hellblade games so why did microsoft financially insulate them while they did it? Did they think they would make money? Or that this would be a much needed indie to pad out their planned roster of blockbusters?

>>713682859
You either have terrible taste or I'm getting trolled. Who the fuck would ever argue South of Midnight is better than Indiana Jones? South of Midnight has a good art team and that's literally it. In every other way, it is one of the most rote, paint-by-numbers adventure games I've ever tried. The level design is all corridors, the combat is fucking instanced from the platforming, and the rest is just generic push-crate shit we've seen a billion times. Meanwhile Indiana Jones is like a cross between Dishonored and a Jackie Chan movie and perfectly captures the knockabout fun of the original movies. And the script, acting, cinematics are incredible whereas South of Midnight's story is total amateur hour in every regard. It won best adventure game at DICE for a reason.

>>713683371
They're fine, they're just going to lead development for Halo now, other studios will make the games.

sounds about right, microsoft farming all the karma and goodwill before quietly raping the industry in a few months. like every other e3 before it
and yet every eceleb will cements their delusions about how great the microsoft presentation was and how much better it was than sony's who didnt even participate
pure delusion

follow microsoft's track record of complete BULLSHIT e3 presentations and judge that not their words and bullshit lies and immediately believing that shit as the best presentation
all their fucking games listed were multiplat and on pc or also on ps5

>>713683495
Not him but that entire first act in the Vatican sucked big time gameplay wise.

>>713683495
>South of Midnight has a good art team
Lol

>>713673296
They do. Like half the hot indies are on GamePass clearly on some kind of licensing deal. You can play Blue Prince on GamePass right now.

>>713683371
Sledgehammer is going to be the one. They proved they can turn out post launch content efficiently, and they don’t have to lead cod games like IW or Treyarch since they haven’t had a successful cod of their own since WWII. They’ve just been doing mutiplayer for the other studios (like they are taking over mutiplayer for black ops 7)

>>713669762 (OP)
I hope your children die, Broussard.

>>713670429
Doom but that's because of people getting Doom fatigue (I mean people are expecting a Quake 1 style game). Good game but still

Microsoft owns like 100 studios. They could literally just be letting go of 10-20 people at each one and hit that number.

I prefer a incompetent Microsoft than a competent one
If you think modern gaming is shit you have no idea how bad could it get under MS monopoly

And then they'll raise the price of Game Pass again.

>>713683493
This is what I call the Microsoft cycle
>2001-2009 Microsoft had first party studios and third party exclusives to compete with Sony
>Microsoft felt they beat Sony by 2010 so things shifted to making Xbox the all in one entertainment machine with Xbox doing live TV and making their own TV studios while closing down their game studios
>2014 Phil tries to save Xbox but doesn't know how so he copies PS4, gut both TV and game studios while believing Xbox needed Gears again when the series ended on the 360
>2017 Microsoft wanted to turn Xbox into a subscription service like Netflix so they acquired a lot of small and big studios to make this happen
>2024 Microsoft spends over $70 billion on ABK and sees no need to push Game Pass any further as it's another failure and decides they want to be the biggest publisher but now they no longer need these smaller studios because they want to make the most money
This is just the usual for Microsoft.

>>713672412
South of Midnight flopping was most expected considering it didn't do anything to stand out. Its just a worse and corporate version of American McGee's Alice

>>713678541
oh so that's why coca cola is so much better than dogshit pepsi

It's funny Xbox had it's golden age by embracing an unknown studio with huge potential (Bungie) and then just never did that again and only acquired over the hill developers like Rare or publishers who were more bloated than they were.

>>713684272
Thank god for the bone. Had microsoft won that gen we'd all be screwed.

>>713684912
This, Games for Windows Live and Xbone killed Microsoft's gaming ventures and led to Nintendo and Valve taking over. Microsoft would have killed both the PC and console industry, glad it's finally over.

Microsoft was based for buying ABK, speeding up the death of the AAA industry instead letting this tired shit drag on for another two-three decades.

>>713669762 (OP)
Total Transbox death

microsoft is the most mismanaged company on earth. literal mongoloids in the boardroom

360 era xbox was soulful and targeted white gamers.
Everything past that has been a total disaster

oh no. will they be ok?
how many xers did it affect?

after microsoft boughted activision they have been slowly skimming assets to get back that money and these layoffs are just another proof of that.

Never forget /v/ said Sony was dead and buried after M$ bought blizzard.
This board is literally never right

>>713669762 (OP)
The AAA industry is dying and I couldn't be happier

>>713687692
hey. you no how it goes. buy high; sell low. classic switcheroo 180 IQ play. will never be beaten

>>713669762 (OP)
PLEASE tell me the forza team is kill, it's full of women

>>713679527
They're still rich you're not so they doing something right

>>713669762 (OP)
why won't they try doing something cool like making online free? Imagine parents choosing a console for gta 6, they will pick the one that won't require monthly pay

>>713677548
It's "bring out your dead", not "death", ESL. The internet really is going to shit, huh.

>>713670762
>RARE
Literally the only MS studio making money

>>713669762 (OP)
Base Microsoft for OBLITERATING those tranny devs

>>713688252
London bridge is felling down, felling down

>>713682083
what if i want his award

>>713669762 (OP)
I hope they murder 343. Please god.

>>713688325
lol

Honestly it's impossible to please gamers these days. Until the consumer actually grows up and lets go of their 2010 nostalgia there's little reason to invest in AAA game developement.

>>713671814
>Hellblade 2
That game got vaporized from public consciousness as soon as it released

>>713678309
If anything games should be cheaper to make with all the readily available creation tools that shits out half the work for you with AI.

>>713669762 (OP)
Get laid off
Get laid off
Get laid off
Get laid off
Get laid off
Get laid off

Did you know that xbox customer service was replaced by AI?

>>713669762 (OP)
>can't lay off workers
>encourage the devs to make games the customers don't want
>embrace feminist nonsense
>games tank
>"damn we have to lay you all off"
>AI ftw

>>713669762 (OP)
I don't understand, how can you buy so many studios and BARELY release ANY games?

>>713672708
Ninja Theory released two games.
They were bad.

>>713679364
goypass is the typical big company move to subvert the competition with much lower prices (they can handle losing money for much longer). Once you have the market, you raise the price.

>>713689017
That's what happens when all your studios consist of diversity hires with a degree in anthropology instead of game design or coding.

>be Phil
>xbawks getting its' ass kicked, especially in europe
>waste money on buying ActiBlizz and Bethesda
>don't use money on buying exclusive rights to make sports games since retards will throw their money on yearly gacha for the same player/s

>>713689132
but those studios were making games before they were acquired???

Can't believe that I miss that old fuck major nelson

>>713688436
They already did, they can no longer make games by themselves anymore. They can only lead development but 90% of the work will come from other studios.

>>713689193
The core talent who made these studios great already left a decade ago.
This isn't the 90's/early 2000's my dear zoom zoom.

>>713675982
you can't really call Oblivion remake a "AAA release". They just took the original game and slapped UE5 on top of it.

>>713675982
>badly optimized lazy remaster
fucking retard

>>713689173
if its not obvious, its not about making money, its about making women want to play games, which is why every game you get nowadays is like veilguard or avowed. it will pay off in the long term if they can get both man and women to blow just as much money on vidya entertainment.
women dont give a fuck about sports.

>>713669762 (OP)
Has a console series every been as badly mismanaged as the Xbox?

I was thinking Sega, but I don't think Sega ever ruled a console generation. It was always sort of an underdog.

Then maybe Atari, but ultimately Atari was killed by the video game crash of the 80s which basically killed everyone except Nintendo.

Its nothing like having a bunch of hits just fall in your lap, soaring to the top spot and ruling the 2000s, only to squander it all on fucking gimmicks while your exclusives all jump ship, go multiplatform or are abandoned by the developer and have to be worked on by a bunch of retards (Halo.) I know that Bungie went to absolute shit pretty much immediately afterwards, but it still makes no fucking sense that Microsoft let them go. What a bunch of clowns.

>>713689709
They already said years ago that xbox is a brand, a platform, not just a console, which is why they release all their games on PC too since Windows is owned by Microsoft.
I have to thank them for the xbone fuck up as well which made me switch back to PC and never look back to cucksoles ever again.
No regrets.

>>713678665
I've never seen advertisements or marketing for them. Maybe microsoft is just afraid of advertising in "chud-adjacent" online spaces which is a good place to find some players/potential buyers as a start. The majority of "non-nintendo" audiences most likely also refuse the high price point.

>>713689693
Whoever runs xbox market research is retarded. Majority of women won't play shit like veilguard or avowed, they prefer things like sims or that chink coomer gacha that tracks women's period. It's like xbox is forcing women to become men while castrating men at the same time.

>>713670263
please let no one at 343 be affected, that would be so funny

>>713672412
Can someone explain to me why people here hate on Dark Ages, to someone who cares very little about Doom?
It doesn't seem to be the usual woke or dei hires argument

How come sony and nintendo never got flack for advertising their consoles as a multimedia device? It's like everyone ignore E3 before don mattrick

>>713671715
Phil is based thoughbeit

>>713689693
That's the problem, it doesn't work which is why they kept changing strategies to try to force it to work. Going publisher is the last thing they're doing before they finally give up. Going after indies and AAs no longer works. AAA is dying and Microsoft doesn't know how to get out it.

>>713691326
because Nintendo doesn't advertise their console as a multimedia device.
The most you can do with Switch is download an app for a streaming service if there is one.

I think you are missing the point, nobody gives a shit, its just if you don't have games than all that's left is an overpriced fire tv stick

>>713670427
There's no laundering, Microsoft just has infinite money glitch due to Windows and Office existing.
I'll give you an example, I used to work B2B for a company that produces PCs.
For every standard model laptop (not the high end ones destined for devs/graphic designers etc, the ones for average office work), the company made net profit of only $30-50 for each one we sold.
Microsoft made almost $200 on every laptop WE sold.

>>713691550
>Microsoft made almost $200 on every laptop WE sold.
lmao not that I'd ever buy one but if god forbid I needed a gaymaning laptop I would go out of my way to buy one with linux/no OS on it after learning this

>>713679364
It'll be sustainable once they raise the prices to like 3 times what a new game costs per month and train all the goynsumers to accept not being able to buy their games. This is why I'll never use it, even though it's admittedly a pretty good deal now. They're currently in the "give the customers an amazing deal to increase user numbers" stage. It'll be followed shortly by the "enshittify everything to hell and back while simultaneously raising prices" stage.

>>713669762 (OP)
What exactly have they even released recently? Obsidian's ultra-woke clones of Bethesda games? Halo 1/3 of a completed game?

>>713693014
This, the model works because not everyone plays every game, but everyone is still paying into it per month. Though it only works so long as there's a large userbase, if it ever drops below the sustainable threshold, the service is done.

>>713693014
>It took the ESL Xbox cuck this long to show himself and shit himself

>>713695807
>implying xboxbros like the current strategy
xbox been dead since quantum break released on pc

>>713670005
This is bad news but wish me luck having a foursome with my 8.5 Girlfriend, her girl friend and a tranny
Xchads stay winning regardless

its the entire xbox hardware division

>>713697779
Good riddance, no one cares for consoles anymore especially shitbox. Microsoft needs to kill xbox entirely and stick with PC.

>>713672747
Minecraft is a game that costs $30.
Candy crush has millions of grannies spending at least 1-2$ a week
Do the math

>>713696159
I want to go back to the time before everyone got media training

>>713671897
On life support fablesista, save me superhans

>>713669762 (OP)
>only hire woke POCs, trannies, feminists and LBGT activists
>put skilled and educated white/asian males on the shit list
>outsource the hard tasks to pajeets
>product quality plumets, gamers turn to chink gacha, korea, japan, even EU
>guess we have to trim the fat now, nothing personel kid
and nothing of value was lost, west should crash and burn for being this fucking retarded

I mean, they must get the money back from the ABK purchase somehow

>>713696159
this really shows that the console players have a cuck mindset, instead of switching to or protesting and ask console makers to stop charging for online play, instead they demand that pc players simply don't get the game.
they want everyone to go down to their level, not elevate themselves.

>>713678129
>people just wanted a cool FPS campaign with coop MP
>somehow THIS needed to be Microsofts multibillion dollar AAAA game
why

>>713671715
>Microsoft itself became far more valuable after Satya Nadella became the CEO
Funny how inversely the games got worse

But grifters on youtube talked about how great microsoft gaming was doing.

???

>>713669762 (OP)
Good, game dev is way to fucking bloated now. Chop the fat off and get them games out the door.

>>713700368
It's not about giving you what you want.
It's about lecturing you about how evil and wrong you are for wanting those things and dictating to you what you're going to want going forward.

Now act like good livestock and give them your money.

It's amazing how shit Xbox is at selling games.

>>713678129
>can make character look however they want
>faggots and old women FORCE it to be a worn out hag

>>713678665
>Indiana Jones are objectively great games
What's great about it? I hear people shill it all the time and they can't say anything other than 'Dishonored but without abilities". Why would I want that though if I have Dishonored with abilities

>>713670193
>Shame there is no one to stand up against Sony.
Nintendo is continuing to ass rape them thoughbeit.

>>713669762 (OP)
Cool. Hope they lay off the remaining 8000-9000 employees too.

Get woke go silently broke, then tencent choke
never hire leftists
never listen to leftists
they are not people
they do not have human rights

>>713691278
It's Simon Says perry slop with shitty, under developed mech and dragon sections.

>>713674335
>>713674574
He didn't actually say that btw

>>713702329
>never hire leftists
and foids, they opened the floodgate for all the pozz when they got a foot in the door ( same with any other entertainment industry they invaded like movies, cartoons, comics, tabletop etc )

>>713672446
Electronic Artifying.

>>713679258
>But I am guessing it was an idea that emerged out of desperation.
More or less.
>Xbox One reveal transparently going after the Wii audience
>Core 360 audience begin to leave
>Backpeddle on shit like online-only, mandatory Kinect accessory
>It's too late, damage is done
>Xbox One sells worse than 360. Don't have good enough new exclusive games.
>Try to tread water with a collection of your previous best sellers in MCC. Botch it completely
>Come out with another new console. Sells even worse than Xbox One
>Convince higher ups to go on a spending spree to buy studios and IP and attempt to convert customers to streaming since they don't buy our games anyway
Microsoft gaming's been in a desperate situation since the initial Xbox One reveal. They've never actually climbed back out of that hole

>>713700225
it's both complaining about pc players getting the game and paid online. Phil obviously ignored the paid online part

>>713673296
Investers don't want slow grow. They want instant value pump.

>>713673296
They're constantly promoting and funding indietroon studios but mainly for the ESG/DEI shekels cause no one actually wants to buy or play that slop.

>>713669762 (OP)
i hope the studio that made south of midnight get canned
fingers crossed

>>713702727
You're using the old Electronic Arts logo but back in the day these folks were genuinely living up to that name.
EA got big through being the best publisher under the sun, they weren't always a soulless corporate. Ironically they shat all over the old generation of corporate publishers.

>>713702802
>>Xbox One reveal transparently going after the Wii audience

Could have worked if they had offered actually good motion controls and not the kinect abomination.

I kinda liked the wii motion controls when they were actually implemented well like metroid prime 3.

They could for example have added support for gyro aiming but no they pushed kinect instead even though nobody asked for that.

>>713671979
I hope so, I want him to go independent and make more stuff ala Pentiment.

>>713669762 (OP)
Guess we're finally seeing the fruits of hit games Indiana Jones and Oblivion Remaster on gamepass

>>713669762 (OP)
I hope they're finally getting rid of their DEI department.

Reminder that Xbox went all in on DEI.

How did leftists lose the culture war so badly? Everything they've even remotely involved with is completely imploding.

>>713707170
they could only bully suits to accept them in studios no other talent

i don't think they can shut down studio they showed a game from (play on game pass on launch shit) because that would false advertisement
so it's all the studios that haven't shown anything they are on the chopping block

>woke/DEI
irrelevant, they would shut down studios with most well received games because
A. they don't have some new in production
B. they don't care about small studios

>>713672446
If I can't have it no one can

>>713669762 (OP)
I'll believe it when I see it

1 more black creator month or pacific islander mental health awareness sale will save xbox i think

>>713707170
>Reminder that Xbox went all in on DEI.
welcome to a decade ago lol

>amerimutt company went all in on amerimutt fetish
no waay

>>713671715
yeah congrats

an opened tub of frozen yogurt left out in rain for 3 weeks would have become more valuable in this retarded post 2008 economy where everything appreciates for no reason forever

>>713682894
If you put half the female characters in old TES games in a modern game, modern western gamers would call them goonerslop.

>>713671979
Him and Chris Avellone won

>>713675298
Oh god please this

>>713677910
GTA will be mediocre and underperform. All the talent at Rockstar is gone.

>>713679364
It's not. They're using it as a loss leader and this is a result of the accountants saying they can no longer afford to do so.

>>713669995
Idk how could anyone think thats a good idea. Just look at India itself.

>>713671875
its so cool to see someone who just repeats what other people have said with 0 actual knowledge on the actual subject

>>713708283
>modern western gamers
troons and other leftists are an insignificant customer base hence the layoff thread

>>713678403
im pretty sure the suits have been told that the flops are expected because the "industry is doing bad". as if people have stopped enjoying games for the time being because of some act of god. and to be fair most of the suits are just in it for the ez money and are too lazy to find out for themselves what is actually happening

>>713670182
Remember it's legal for China to invest in US video game companies, but not the other way around.
The minute they showed interest, DEI started getting funded

>>713711210
Damn, I guess the US should make it illegal for China to invest in US companies.
Oh wait, that'll never happen because the US is not a country, it's a mercenary economic zone run by corporations.

>>713711210
Ok so... China made you suck cock and die because they gave you some shekels? And I'm supposed to hate China because you're a cheap, retarded, suicidal, immoral whore?

>>713711929
>gave you
they gave it to the company boards of directors, who will never reveal it

>>713707170
they literally don't care about quality at all
you would expect that the first thing you would care about in your propaganda piece is for it to be good enough for people to willingly play it, but they literally couldn't care less about that
every single one of these wokeshit games would still be considered shit even with all the wokeshit removed because they always have some deeply rooted problems unrelated to it, to the point it became a red flag even for the people who don't care about this shit

>>713700225
>they want everyone to go down to their level, not elevate themselves.
Consolecucks are oversocialized and woman-brained

>>713711989
Yes, and? That's just capitalism.

>>713711989
This. It is criminally easy for a hostile foreign agent like the soulless ccp to show up to a corporate investor with bags of money.

>>713711210
Unless they start making Tom Clancy-tier modern military third person stealth action shooters they will never reach me.

>>713712201
poor straight white amerijews outplayed once again...

>>713711929
Replace all mentioned instances of China, Chinese, and Xi Jinping with israel, jews, and Larry Fink. Then it'll make sense.

>>713669762 (OP)
>what's the bet they're replaced with AI for narrative and coding

And then they will wonder why no one can buy their stuff or why the economy crashes in general.

>>713670365
Why does Rare even exist if they don't even make any of the games they used to?

>>713712334
can't expect that from Eglin airforce redditors

>Tango Gameworks shutdown
>Stoic shutdown
>343 still alive and kicking
Phil is objectively a worse boss than Don Mattrick for shutting down the developers that actually do their jobs

>>713712623
Hifi rush was dogshit and I hope whoever is responsible for writing and art design of that slop to never get a job in the industry ever again

>>713690161
They wouldn't have done so if they could survive in their own ecosystem. This is an acknowledgment of abject failure no matter how they choose to word it.

>>713711367
Worse, it's becoming China's factory and will be a polluted shithole like the US turned China into in a few years time.
Unless war happens.

>we ain't getting out of it
>it is guaranteed and western elites FORCED this shit to happen to leverage themselves

>>713670429
Shartfield

>>713712770
Maybe on planet retard where you’re from

>>713671903
>He must have Mossad-quality kompromat
kek
don't you remember the guy before Phil? He's alright

FUCK OFF BRUSSARD fucking ruined duke nukem!!

>>713712610
Notice how a lot of shit is just happening at the time of the Israeli conflicts btw.

>>713670671
>kill off Bethesda before the next TES comes out
Imagine the asspain

>>713678665
Both games are woke garbage, they deserve it>>713679258
2 more weeks sar

>>713672269
End birthright citizenship for illegal parents
End work green cards
End school green cards

Our cities are too packed with immigrants influecing elections
Our labor is cheapened by immigrants
Our education system is devalued due to immigrants

AND ITS KILLING VIDYA

>>713669762 (OP)
Who cares?

>>713670889
>can't effectively be killed because they are tied in with the wellbeing of the absolute state
If you're up there now I wouldn't be shaking hands with Phil and the jeet. Jimbo Ryan did the same thing before he purged them on the way out.

>>713672446
The EA special

>>713672446
Divestment companies. Lookem up.

>>713673296
Because any decadent worth his weight in gold will not want anything but the best result. They only have 20 - 30 years on the clock and with the average dev cycle taking half of that just to churn out a subpar product. You can understand their desperation. Maybe if a longevity vaccine was standardized they wouldn't be slashing and burning as hard as they are now.

>>713669928
Still mad about how it killed Tango despite Hi Fi Rush's success. Even more mad at gaymers who think the game pass benefits them and that digital licensing rental services like it are sustainable.

>>713700368
>>somehow THIS needed to be Microsofts multibillion dollar AAAA game
Microsoft bought the Rare I.P., thus they need a new Halo/flagship shooter that isn't Call of Duty.

Thing is, last time they tried it (Zero/launch title for 360) it didn't really cause a blip for anyone that wasn't a Nintendo gamer that knew Perfect Dark. So I doubt them bloating the budget up for this re-re-reboot would make that better.

>>713712507
>replaced with AI for narrative and coding
this would unironically be an upgrade. gpt4 already writes better scripts than industry veterans like anthony burch. AI can already replace 10 to 30% of devs, by the end of the year you can increase this number to 50%. eventually it will be able to replace anyone and there won't be fun new jobs only humans can do like some neoliberals and tech billionaires imply. this will probably be the most dangerous fork in the road for humanity in history and where elites chose to lead us will be a choice between extinction and utopia.

>>713713075
>if everything costs more, especially labor, games will be more profitable and layoffs will stop
>we should also create some stateless people for fun
>also we have a million foreigners who bring billions into the country we should tell them to keep their money in their own country, china has very good schools and deserves it more
Is this the power of far-right economics?

>>713712610
MAGAtards are so retarded.

>>713691278
Snoys
That is all.

>>713669762 (OP)
oh no all those heckin developerinos...oh no...

>>713669762 (OP)
As I always say in these cases:
>man, all these developers will now be able to make games without the constraints of corporations, indie games will shine in the next two years
But I know that's not the case because no one in this shitty industry knows how to make games in the first place.

>>713681351
>Picture this; you get an exclusive item if you buy Gears of War on Xbox but you can transfer your save file, content and achievements over to Steam later on.
You can already do that with "X-box Play Anywhere" technically. The problem is, they don't do that for Steam. It's their shitty "Universal Windows Program" (UWP)/"Universal Windows App" (UWA) program for their shitty locked down walled-garden store (MS Store application on Windows 10/11) that is where X-BPA is a thing.

If Phil wasn't doing massive cocaine runs, he'd course correct and put X-BPA on Steam like they've done Goypass (IIRC) and EA's "EA Play" has done (I think Ubisoft is the lone holdout on their shitty rental service not being on Steam).

It's why the X-box ROG (BritneySpearsFLOP.gif incoming BTW) is having Steam on there and Nadella is cutting down the bloated Windows 11 OS for performance: To try to entice folks off the 'Eck. I doubt it works (> No trackpads >Windows 11 in my case), but at least ONE of them somewhat knows that PC gamers aren't wanting to be in a locked-down (to an OS) storefront.

>>713681453
Because people HATE "Call of Duty HQ." It's 300+ Gigs (and growing!) for a yearly title while they throw EVERYTHING since CoD19/Modern Warfare 2 Reboot (or CoD18, Vanguard[?]) and try to have all the assets able to be cross-play/"talked" to the earlier/later entries.

It's a mess. Nobody (and I mean NOBODY) likes it. The faster ATVI drops CoD HQ and seperates all the titles into their own Depots again to where each entry is like 100Gigs (and growing because ATVI has no idea about Optimizations) the better.

Like... right before the PS4 was replaced by the PS5 you COULD NOT INSTALL ANY OTHER GAME ON THE DRIVES FOR THE PS4 if you had ONE (1) CALL OF DUTY INSTALLED because HQ took up 300GIGS of a 500GIG drive BEFORE the latest releases' 200Gigs.

It's insane and unsustainable without smart programming.

Anyway:

>MTX is a massive market.
Outside of whales, nobody buys MTX consist.

>>713716019
>consist
Constantly. It's why Call of Duty pumps out all that weird shit in addition to the rappers and wresters/Celebs collabs. If one doesn't entice a consumer (who likes the Hamsters, Mice, etc.) they'll buy the other (Nicki Minaj's big ass, Snoop and LOL 420 SMOKE WEED ERRYDAY! banners in tow with him).

But once they bought ONE (1) thing they like, they'll generally stick with it and not buy others for at least a year or two.

>>713669762 (OP)
>refuse to make games exclusive
>no one buys an xbox
Whoddathunkit? Nice guys finish last, phil, you stupid fuck.

>>713681597
>Doom re-reboot
>Good
No. Doom died with 3, and I'll give 3 props for being an impressive engine but a shitty Doom. Would've rather Carmack had named it something other than Doom.

>>713669762 (OP)
>Buys up a shit ton of studios just to shutter them and hoard all of the IPs

>>713714626
>also we have a million foreigners who bring billions into the country
Yeah suuuure
Those billions are siphoned out of USA/Europe drip by drip.
Somehow the West could kickstart the silicon revolution using "EXPENSIVE" local labor, but returning to it would end civilization forever?

>>713688325
Delusional. Rare is THE poster boy for "MS buys shit they have no idea how to handle."

>>713669762 (OP)
Nothing of value would be lost, Xbox died when they killed Halo and Gears with their woke American shit.

>>713712770
regurgitated contrarian hiveminded takes are in fact shitposting

>>713689238
He's still around on Social Media. Just not X-box Whoring now.

>>713669762 (OP)
>company fires people
this is certainly news and will rock the very foundations of the industry

Most of those studios that Microsoft bought during The Big Buyouts have not producted or announced a single game.
It has basically become
>money stolen
except it was from Microsoft. Absolute lmao.

>>713712801
Nah, MS would've still released X-box titles on PC eventually. PC was growing at that moment. I think even the PS4 had some ecosystem user loss because people are finally sick of how consoles are base + 5 years online tax'd in addition to the game tax.

>>713718441
turns out, live service slop doesn't produce as much cash as an actually good product where you need to hire people with skills and not retarded wokies.

>>713691350
You're just proving why MS is in the situation it's in.
>Devil May Cry/Ninja Gaiden: On the Beat edition
>OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN, WE CAN'T HAVE RISKY GAMES ANYMORE!

Killing Tango which is valid, it was a Mikami studio and he left like 2-3 years before Tango was shut down was a mistake. They're one of the rare few studios MS had that would make weird shit and had a "niche" fanbase.

>>713691326
PS4 wasn't advertised as the water cooler with 2 hours of TV and NO GAMES.

Shitcher 1 also wasn't advertised as TV TV TV TV TV TV for 3 hours.

You're base image was them spending about 15-20 mins going "we have these on PS3/PS4 for you to use your console as a TV/streaming if you're tired of gaming" before moving on to video games.

MS fucked up the X-box 720's reveal massively and Don Mattrick (and Adam Orth) buried it six feet under with their pigheadedness ("Why on Earth would I want to live there?" "We have a console for those with shitty internet/rurals: It's called the last generation console!")

>>713716805
>hoard all of the IPs
even if these studios weren't bought or were given complete creative freedom they wouldn't know what to do with these IPs. EA didn't force bioware to make veilguard the way they made it, many such cases. why do you think sony first party studios buried countless IPs into the grave and will never revisit them? because they're smart and understand when certain IP is completely drained and can't be monetized any further. there's only few big games/IPs you can keep making over and over again like a dumb motherfucker without changing almost anything and still make tons of money, games like cod, fifa, gta... few good positive examples of lasting IPs are nintendo and fromsoft games, these guys understand how iteration works. microsoft will probably fire bunch of people clinging to past and use those who stay to build new IPs, it's only way forward.

>>713691550
>Microsoft just has infinite money glitch due to Windows and Office existing.
That's going away and Nadella only has himself to blame for it.

>>713692304
Even if you didn't, MS charges like $200 for a HOME license, even their "free to upgrade/install!" Windows 10/11 wants a $150-200 retail license.

And if you get an OEM key? Forget it, it's burned into the motherboard. I know this because my shop had to convince a customer to forget the activiation and just have MS bitch about Win10 being unactivated because 1) it's EOL and 2) MS wanted $150 just so they could use their OEM laptop for ONE (1) piece of software that wouldn't run on Windows 11 (thanks for the back-comp, MS you stupid fucks).

>>713693014
If it's self-sustainable, why aren't developers/games making a profit off it?

>>713670429
They fucked up bad with Doom

>>713703024
Of course he ignored that part, console owners eat shit and don't demand free online play anymore. Why do you think Sony finally did their rental service/online play tax like MS? Because PS4 buyers didn't bitch and protest/not buy the console.

If console owners had any respect, they'd figure out a way to private server shit and hack the firmware and NEVER touch the official networks until Sony/MS relented and course corrected.

It's why PC gamers shut down Games for Windows: nobody was buying that shit and told them straight to their face "we aren't going to buy and support that dogshit. Go fuck yourself."

>>713702802
>They've never actually climbed back out of that hole
Even Phil's admitted to it. The whole X-box department should be shuttered outside of the developers/game makers, and even THAT should have some heads roll.

At least Sega had the sense to know when to fold and become a third party publisher.

Turn 10 is getting hit with layoffs and rumors is that Microsoft's UK studios are taking hits, I'm expecting layoffs at Rare and Playground Games. Ninja Theory is clearly being closed down. I can see Obsidian getting layoffs, Compulsion Games and getting closed and InXile getting layoffs as well. The Initiative will probably get layoffs while World's Edge gets closed down. Double Fine is probably getting closed down. Halo Studios and The Coalition won't be touched because they were both already gutted by Microsoft over their previous failures. Xbox Publishing may also take a hit. This is going to be a bloodbath.

>>713672252
How hard is it to give the XBox brand their profile back? Like, just emphasize it's the Murrican console for Murrican gamers or whatever.
>Murrican
>powerful console
>customizable or something. Make up some functionality for the next generation
Like with that strat they almost certainly would snatch a few % market share from Sony so they can make the controlled demolition more smooth, and gamble on it blowing up again.

>>713719426
The Xbox hardware team is taking a hit too, it's why they're moving to OEMs.

>>713714383
This only works if AI is used to make a better product and not just for further enshittification.
And you're retarded if you think it won't just be used to pump out cheap, low-effort garbage, just as shitty as garbage shat out by retards like Burch.

The only good aspect of the proliferation of AI is that it will put many of the retards who've ruined entertainment over the last decade out of work.
It will not, however, produce anything of value, just more garbage for idiots and third worlders.

>>713707170
It was forced; it was never going to last when that one domino was toppled.

>>713720040
>It will not, however, produce anything of value
bro you are delusional. a year ago you made fun of that will smith spaghetti video, now when AI can make a perfect video of him eating spaghetti you're moving the goalpost. when we hit AGI you'll probably cope how it's till not superhuman.

>>713669762 (OP)
I wish George would have been laid off before he could have killed 3DRealms that first time.

Bullish for my MSFT stock.

>>713720040
here you go, it's already better

justpaste it / ivxkt

Based. Fuck those makework faggots.

Turn 10 is probably getting closed down. Why continue the racing sim made to go against Grand Turismo if the Xbox is going third party? There's no longer a point. Forza Horizon is different enough from Grand Turismo.

>>713719796
It'd be very easy, and obvious to me too, but for whatever reason a lot of CEOs act like stepdads, and they view the stuff that came before them as lesser just by virtue of the fact it wasn't theirs from the start

>>713719289
PC gamers didn't do shit. GFW was never intended to be long-term. it was just a gimmick to help with getting devs to ditch WinXP. ms dropped development and marketing for it as soon as 7 dominated XP's market share. GFW only went on as long as it did because Vista flopped. ms doesn't really care about video games, everything they do with gaming has an ulterior motive to keep devs and consumers trapped on windows.

>>713719796
It's too late now, America is PC, we're going to Valve, everybody is already slowing switching to Linux, even the government. Microsoft fucked up hard. People will just get a Steam Deck 2.

>>713721458
>ms doesn't really care about video games, everything they do with gaming has an ulterior motive to keep devs and consumers trapped on windows
This, all Microsoft did is chase everyone away from Windows with their bullshit.

>>713718252
I'm not being a contrarian at all. It's cringe dogshit written by mutts, infecting what otherwise could've been an okay Japanese game. And I'm glad they're dead.

Sorry the truth rapes you but hey, maybe you can help these Adult Swim rejects shit out another ugly, unfunny, obnoxious slop with a kikestarter or something?

>>713717240
The days of wealthy immigrants coming to educate themselves in America are LONG gone. China has already taken 4 of the top 5 university positions in the world. America imports Indians to destroy our middle class tech sector and latinos to destroy our working class physical labor sectors.

Is this the power of liberal globohomo economics?

>>713714626
The days of wealthy immigrants coming to educate themselves in America are LONG gone. China has already taken 4 of the top 5 university positions in the world. America imports Indians to destroy our middle class tech sector and latinos to destroy our working class physical labor sectors.

Is this the power of liberal globohomo economics?