Today is out and you're all dead? I hope because you're playing it!
What do you think so far?
Seems like an enhanced version of 1 gameplay wise.
>no gay furry porn in the op
this is why you're thread is dead
They changed the button for scanning and crouching, for me it's unplayable.
>>713721985 (OP)Honestly, ive been playing since Tuesday and I am disapointed.
The game play is way better don't get me wrong, but the story, music, design, the atmosphere, it all feels like shit.
All of the small details was taken out of the game "like Sam using the bathroom, its stupid, but its removed now"
The game feels immature and hacky, like Kojima fell back into his shitty otaku habits. It's the same game but worse and he does a good job at making me dislike it.
and I am sure people are gonna be really pissed off as they play and discover the truths of the game, and the countless Sam suffered more then Snake memes.
Kojima rewrote the second game because people liked the first draft to much, and it shows, he made it worse on purpose.
>>713722550Unfortunately death stranding doesn't have those.
Does tomorrow have a huge ass like real life Elle Fanning?
I just started playing, mobility is better, game doesn't start with a bunch of cutscenes like 1 but I am wondering where the story is going
>>713721985 (OP)I think it's standard kojima slop
>I want to make movie but no no Hollywood does not like me>so, I make video game but as a movie>mgs1 is praised as a great game despite having around 60 minutes of actual gameplay, the rest is backtracking, avoiding 'le hecking one enemy on le hecking radar map route' and about 4-5 hours of this shit is taken upbetween cutscenes and codec conversations and the back trackingYou support this game you support the reason AAA slop is aaa slop
decided not to buy anything Kojima related after Death Stranding 1 and I think I made the right choice.
>>713724826no, i support japanese devs
>>713721985 (OP)>Today is out and you're all dead? I hope because you're playing it!Yeah, I'm surprised to see so few threads about it on here today as well. I guess a lot of people did play it early, though.
I'm not posting about it because I'm still at work. I'm starting it later this evening.
>>713725582Yeah I can guess. A lot of fags submitted to the digital copy for 2 days of early access
>>713725582It probably doesn't help that you have a bunch of summer sales starting as well.
Can someone explain the whole story to me? I'm too lazy to binge the game.
>>713723956Yeah, this is the same feeling I've been getting out of the game. Gameplay is definitely an improvement from the 1st. Everything else is just Kojima being even more self-indulgent than he was before. Kojima is just like George Lucas. He needs someone to rein his ideas in to tell his story better.
>>713723540We're back to crouching with X, I'm guessing? Is L1 scan now?
my copy wont be here til saturday...
and when it gets here i will go on internet black out
I'll get it in a year or so when it releases for pc like any game will inevitably
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just picked it up. im excited to play
Best Kojimbo game such MGS3, easily. A fucking masterpiece. Play it, faggots.
I bought a PS5 Pro for this game and like it a lot more than I thought I would. I'm hoping that Physint is going to also end up releasing on this thing.
People praising the Dualsense apparently weren't blowing smoke up my ass this whole time, also. I played through the Death Stranding Director's Cut in preparation for DS2, and that controller really does add a lot more to that game than I expected it would.
>>713726096Literally everyone and their mother did, retard.
>>713721985 (OP)Just finished it last night and enjoyed every second of it.
Easily Kojimaโs most batshit insane game.
Still kinda formulating my thoughts on the story, but I really liked it nonetheless. Itโs pretty different in that, instead of the slow buildup and then massive emotional release all at the very end in DS1, 2 is more of a continuous up-and-down, itโs also just waaay more over-the-top in general. Though itโs pretty easy to figure out certain plot points way in advance if youโre paying attention (which I guess could be a pro or a con to some)
In terms of gameplay, basically every single aspect of it is improved in some way.
>>713726542You mean finish main story? I guess platinum takes 100hrs like first
>>713726989Yeah, I just beelined main orders + some convenient side orders so I could get ahead of any spoilers.
Took roughly 30 hours on brutal difficulty (which felt a little bit harder than the โvery hardโ difficulty added to the Directors Cut of DS1)
>>713727264>(which felt a little bit harder than the โvery hardโ difficulty added to the Directors Cut of DS1)That's good to hear! Most of Very Hard wasn't all that hard to me besides that last fight with Cliff. That shit was indeed very hard.
>>713726542any good parts that were mgs like?
stealth?
anything?
>>713721985 (OP)Is it possible to lose the BT bossfights?
>>713721985 (OP)>Today is out and you're all dead?That's because I'm playing it
>What do you think so far?The gameplay is better, but not hugely so.
Doesn't seem as emotionally poignant and powerful as 1 so far. Nothing close to when Asylums for the feelings started playing in 1, but it's comfy deliveran fun.
I feel like Kojima's music taste is pretty crap in 2 compared to 1.
>>713727469The whole game completely oozes with MGSV inspiration, in all the best ways. Like the bandit camps, both visually and gameplay wise, including how stealth works now, feels straight out of it.
Tons of cheeky little references and nods as well. Thereโs even a secret theater-esque easter egg I spotted that foreshadows a major twist which was pretty awesome and hilarious once I realized.
>>713726542Were the leaks true about the baby being a grown up tomorrow?
I thought for sure Kojima would make at least one more entry with Lou all grown up & an aging Sam
>>713721985 (OP)Picked up my physical. I'll play it later tonight.
You'll buy her game, right?
>>713723956You type like you're brown so I'm gonna hide this post :3
>>713721985 (OP)its the exact same core gameplay loop as MGSV.
How are MGSV haters coping?
>>713729049& thisis is supposed to be bad because???
>>713721985 (OP)It's today?
too bad I don't get paid till next thursday
>Need Material for the highway and now the monorail
Where does Kojima think im gonna get all these building materials
>>713721985 (OP)Game has better gameplay, is more flashy in some regards, but it just feels underwhelming to some degree. The novelty is old now, and he really doesnt do much with the ideas, it doesnt go anywhere. In the long run the ending of the first game was a better way to end the series
I'm going to start playing later but is there an option to not see other players buildings? I want to feel like the land is uncharted and not filled with bridges already
>>713726096Kek. I can't wait for the remake to release just to see /v/ go full hipster and pretend its worse than the original
>>713731493Allah give me a hammer and send me into the room with these women and I swear to you I shall only see three nails
>>713733627the remake is literally a 1:1 remake with boring photorealistic graphics, a complete lack of a cohesive art design. It does nothing new outside of having a better control scheme.
Of course its gonna be worse.
Bestbuy delivered my copy this morning even though it says tomorrow after preordering. More like BASEDbuy. Tomorrow was is in my hands.
Mexico as a setting fucking sucks. Its boring and racist. Wish the story took us to Canada or Europe.
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>seduces Kojima
>>713734763Based. RDR1 sucks also.
>>713723956Gameplay is an improvement but sound and atmosphere def went downhill. Game is also too easy on normal. I think I still like it more than 1 though.
>>713734763Its 95% in Australia, mate
>>713736025haven't played the game, but I'm curious in what way is the sound worse?
>>713733930have sex, loser
I think Fragile in DS2 is the coolest female character design Shinkawa has ever done
>>713736287Sorry I meant the soundtrack. All the songs are generic. DS1 had a ton of bangers. Iโm 20 hours into DS2 and havenโt heard of a single song I wanna download.
I feel like the sound design is massively improved since the last game
>>713736025Can you change difficulty after starting a save?
>>713737356Kojimbo games generally have really good sound design and foley.
>>713736025>Game is also too easy on normal.You really should be playing on the hardest difficulty, makes equipment and stuff wear out faster and makes the game more fun. Then if combat enrages you, just lower it for that and then turn it back up
>>713737497Yeah I changed mine to Brutal. 20 hours on normal and not a single death and maybe one trip. The only thing that fucked me over was getting my vehicle stuck on rocks. Itโs a bitch.
I was really hoping the game would have actual NPCs this time instead of just holograms.
>>713737291I like the resting song, by the way if you haven't done this already sit down for a rest and just let Sam drift off, don't press the sleep button just let him sit. I'll leave the surprise for you to discover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEhr6AzLurU
>>713731493fuck kill marry
>>713728001The bandit camps feel like every other open world game released in the last decade. Stealth is just crouching in grass and throwing a decoy tool. Its basically Assassins Creed except Asscreed actually has crawling now
>>713721985 (OP)No I'm playing space marine 2, don't care about this garbage.
>>713729049No it isnt. Mgsv is all about infiltrating camps. Death Stranding is still 99% delivery sim
>>713737584I just want smarter AI. They are absolutely retarded. And the BTs are too easy to take down. The bosses are a joke. I donโt even need to prep for those and just show up empty handed and watch tar porters throw me free guns and blood bags. The only thing that is tedious is the micromanagement - it gets boring after a while, I donโt want that to increase by having to hold X more times to skip more animations.
Why the FUCK is everything HOLD and not PRESS anymore???
>>713737912Honest to god SM2 was absolutely dreadful with it's poor pacing
>>713721985 (OP)Feels like expensive DLC instead of an actual sequel. There are very few new mechanics. They just added some more gadgets that you really only use at bandit camps
>>713737936If you are trying to 5 star everything then yes. If you beeline the main quest, then itโs like 50% delivery, 25% combat and 25% building.
>>713737912>muh Gears of War 6 with 40k skin
>>713721985 (OP)>I hope because you're playing it!Not yet. I'm currently installing the game. :)
>>713737628Doesn't brutal just increase the damage you take? I'm not really taking damage so I don't think that will make it harder
>>713731493wtf is this gay shit
>>713734450Don't even bother. There are legitimately some massive retards out there that act like Demon's Soul remake didn't harm the art design. They don't know what art design is.
>>713738314I have never seen a good cgi/graphics/whatever baby. Not even one fucking time in any movie or video game. They always look fucking creepy and weird as fuck.
>>713738967MGS never had interesting art direction you contrarian faggots. It was just generic PS1 graphics.
>>713738078Well, the DS2 has quite literally added monorails, an airship homebase and probably even more shit.
Gameplay is also much more polished.
>>713726542>Still kinda formulating my thoughts on the story, but I really liked it nonethelessAKA it's bad lmfao
>>713739078Louise looks perfectly fine. Cute even. Maybe you just have babyphobia. kek
>>713739109>Gameplay is also much more polished.Honestly this alone makes it worth it. The game feels so much more polished than 1 it's unreal. It's like literally all of the silly jank of 1 is gone.
People are still playing the game.
I have heard that compared to other MGS endings, it doesn't surprise you as much. Every MGS had a big reveal in the post-credit scene, and a lot of plot twists.
I've heard some people say that the cutscenes could have been an email which is disheartening because while gameplay is important, Kojima games have always been about the story
Can anyone Japanese understand what this is?
>>713739416The only jank in DS1 was vehicle movement
I'm genuinely angry, the last part of the game basically was some lame nostalgic baiting to Metal Gear. But without any substance or understanding on why it was good in the first place.
What happened to the President AI? Fucker vanish after DieHardman's dance. (DieHardman is pretty much a different character in this game), the final part of the game completely ruined the experience for me. Even if the final boss was pretty good.
Is it me or if you only aim for the story, the game is much shorter than the first entry?
>>713721985 (OP)Only about 5 hours into the game so far, at first I was annoyed by how completely similar it was to the first, but the new mechanics are actually pretty damn good. It remains to be seen whether the story will be better, but to be honest the story in the first game fucking sucked ass and only some of the backstory was really any good. I'm most looking forward to upgrading shit and checking out the new vehicles so we'll see.
>>713737813Fuck the asian, kill fragile, marry the blonde
>>713739109>an airship homebaseIts literally just a portable private room
>>713737549I also feel like the audio is a lot more dynamic too. Like when I got close to a river I was surprised at how loud it actually was. It really drones out everything around you. It's really immersive if you play it with headphones.
>>713740072>but the new mechanicsI havent played it yet. What are they?
So the APAC AI plot just goes nowhere? All that teasing just for a monologue and Diehardman being liked "Nu-uh humans are better!", even the other characters pretty much act like this didn't happened.
Why did this game take twice as long to develop as Death Stranding 1 despite not adding that much new stuff?
can I play 2 if I didn't finish 1? the snowy mountains completely filtered me
>>713739592That is absolutely not true. If you can't tell the difference between how much more smooth the UI is in 2 I honestly don't know what to tell you. It's so much less janky.
>>713740495Handling so many celebs + Kojima rewrote the game two times (one due to Covid, the other because too many peopled liked it)
>>713740551The ending of the game felt more empty than even MG5, what the fuck Kojima, thank god there was the Higgs fight.
>>713740657Bro died to protect his (cheating) girlfriend and her daughter, and he failed at both.
Why did he looked like Solid Snake anyway? Bro wasn't even a soldier or special agent.
See ya later frens and not fren niggers. :))))))))))
>>713721985 (OP)Played and beaten the fist one, I have zero interest for the sequel. Right now I'm having fun with Arkham Knight
GuysโฆI think Higgs is literally me
I'm still not sure if Seydoux just was barely trying as Fragile or if the character was like this due to being half-dead for most of the story.
>>713740929I can't believe Higgs just turned into Liquid
>>713740958The French canโt act
>>713721985 (OP)Death Stranding 2: Stranding Harder
>>713721985 (OP)I don't have a PS5 and don't want to get spoiled, so I'm avoiding these threads
>>713721985 (OP)I'm still debating buying a ps5 for it or waiting until the pc version
I feel that the first game really benefited from my ultrawide monitor so I'm leaning towards PC release and hoping it doesn't take more than 6 months or so
>>713740958Youโre asking too much. Speaking English is already hard enough for her.
Die Hardman was completely ruined. AHAHA WOW LE WACKY MAN, this guy was supposed to be a tragic sad old man.
This game is honestly underwhelming. Kojima oversold it again just like he did with MGSV. The trailers made it seem so much bigger than it actually is
>>713741290I don't understand reviewers who said the game was going to be "50 to 75 hours for the main story" and who got to play 30% with 30 hours. Were they playing only by walking? The entire story can be done in less than 30 hours easily
>>713739078they never make the babies look dumb enough. Babies alternate between a vacant stare as they process information and constant eyedarting to see stuff. I think that's why they come off as creepy in cgi.
>>713741290>>713741408>I speed ran the game and this is the game's fault
>>713741463It's not speedrunning to be a good deliverer. you C-rank fraud
>>713741516Don't talk to me until you 5* every single location you fucking pleb
If Tomorrow was going to be Lou, why did she barely interact with Sam? It kinda cheapen the scene where Sam realize Lou is actually "dead".
>>713741587Doing this is being a completionist, not beating the main story like reviewers said, completely different.
>>713740347Well it's not called On the Beach for nothing!
>>713741408If you rush it on casual or maybe even normal mode, then sure, you could finish DS2 in 30 hours.
poor-man Patriot AI with none of the charisma despite being voiced by fucking Armstrong.
Who let Lucy keep being a therapist when she can't seem to keep her hands off of all her patients
>>713741741I finished it in 25 hours in normal, not even really rushing as I retried a few times due to BTs eating my stuff.
>>713740929Does Higgs have standard model equations tattooed on his head? Bravo!
>>713740229nono, fuck the blonde, kill fragile, marre the asian
>>713739592The truck was ironically 4x2 instead of 4x4, and the DLC race car couldn't stay on the road during a turn like the trike.
>>713737356>>713737549>>713740347Based sound design and foley appreciators. I think MGS4 has some of Kojipros best sound design ever, but I also was really impressed with DS1, looking forward to hearing DS2
>>713721985 (OP)already spoiled same game its a sequel nothing impressive
>>713741249He got forgiven by zanzibarto mikkelsen and president stoped he doesnt have to keep mourning and be edgy skull maks but i dont like his zesty intro neither i prefer if it was more like big boss in mgs4 but more smug
>>713740229Milk the asian , burn fragile, breed the blonde
I really like how much more 2 actually encourages you to plan out your route over 1 where you mostly were just winging it all the time.
>>713741594Lou was reintroduced before Tomorrow.
>>713741897Sheโs German. Itโs in her dna to be a slut
>>713742360Anon Lou is not in the pod, that's Sam hallucinating. The game just at first try to make you believe only Sam can see him due to his connection and his DOOM level being very high. Even Dollman comment on it.
Should I wait for PC release or to get a PS5 later for this game? I loved DS1 but it felt like the story was over, in classic Kojima way he probably retconned some shit and added things that did not exist before in DS1.
>>713741463Im actually only on episode 5
>birthday easter egg
>Everyone is happy
>the cake fall down
>Higgs randomly enter the room and says PIZZA TIME
>>713725990>He needs someone to rein his ideas in to tell his story better.This is the standard Redditor response. The reality is that Kojima is a hack that happened to be slightly involved in a few good games that were released over 20 years ago. Those games were good because of the other people involved. Every game where he's had a significant influence has been complete slop including MGS4, MGS5, DS1 and DS2.
It's not just that he needs someone to reign him in, it's that his ideas and taste are trash.
Just got to the first city after playing for a little over an hour. How long until I get a vehicle? In the first game I mostly just used the truck
THERE WILL BE NO DISCUSSIONS ON V UNLESS IT'S ON FITGIRL
I love Higgs so much, I don't even care he's played by Troy
>>713726086same. I pre-ordered through best buy but then they never got it ready for pickup so I cancelled and went to target and they had 5 copies left lol
I'll never buy a digital game as long as I can get it physical no matter what.
>>713742504>he still doesn't know
DS2 is just DS1+ and that's exactly what I wanted it to be. Being more than a game that's in my top 10 favourite video games of all time and also somehow managing to only be better and not worse in any way is impressive.
>>713742791He mogged every, single, "real actors" from the game. Everyone else was so stiff and wooden compared to him, there's a few moments where Reedus barely was trying.
This character is fucking dumb.
>>713742701Sure, tell me who those people were and what they are doing now. There's one, you know what he is doing? MGS Delta, that's it. Then there's Fukushima who soft retired
>>713737125The tropes they have about women is how they took good female characters from the first game and shit them up into your standard Kojima slope.
>>713742791>>713742894You should tell him he was shit as Ocelot then
>>713743048Fukushima did not retired, he worked as a QA dude at Japan studio for almost a decade, but he returned as a writer recently in a team with ex-Japan studio dudes
>>713743004was it gay sex?
>>713739280i can't believe this is an actual image LMAO
kojima on some shit
>>713743048>MGS DeltaThat's better than anything Kojima has made in decades.
>>713743110I apologize so hard to Dollman, I actually really liked the little guy. He wasn't just a funky gimmick.
>>713743210Saw it more as a brotherly bond, Kojima did say he did with Higgs what he wanted with Liquid Snake as he regretted killing him.
>>713743048>tell me who those people wereWhy do you need names? That doesn't change the objective fact that Kojima is making trash for midwits.
>>713731493>>713736389>>713736441man the graphics are really fucking impressive ngl
>>713743250No need to pick sides, you can enjoy two nice cakes
>>713739280idk that looks a little woke desu
>>713743363>brotherly bondIs this going to be the new russian taunt cope
>>713743494a-anon he literally calls him "brother"
Thought he does seem he was completely obsessed with him
Make up your minds, is it a masterpiece or is it just more DS1?
>>713743582I don't see how those 2 things are mutually exclusive anon
>>713743582DS1 was more of of art piece than it's sequel.
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>>713743573higgs sent sam a bunch of fruity mails in DS1, I think there's a little more going on there than just "brotherly" feelings
Cliff mogs Neil so hard. even the boss fights with Neil, despite having more gimmicks, don't feel as good.
>>713743582Gameplay has improved but not nearly enough to make someone that didn't like DS1 to like DS2.
>>713743741fun fact
if you like Higgs social media post when he's messing with you, he actually gives you a hundred of likes back.
>>713743795I honestly don't get the reviewers who said this.
>>713721985 (OP)The first game was shit so I won't be playing the second.
The courier/hiking simulator aspect could be alright if it was in a different setting with better physics and deeper mechanics, but everything else is hot garbage.
>>713743971Thank you for your absolutely meaningless non criticisms you vapid fuck. Nobody asked
>>713743840Possibly one of the most entertaining characters Kojimbo's ever created
>>713744072He's basically a deeper version of Liquid Snake
When the inevitable MGS1 remake happen, I wonder if there's a possibility that Higgs ends up influencing Liquid Snake back.
>>713742894Thatโs why you gotta headcanon that Sam has crippling autism. Makes all the scenes where he has zero reaction to his loved ones dying make more sense
>>713743110Why does no one in Death Stranding besides Die-Hardman have a realistic reaction to their loved ones dying in front of them?
So is there ever an actual use for the tar cannon? I thought it'd be used for the bushfire when saving tbe kangaroo but Rainy has magical rain powers that put out fires
>>713742894>>713744248I don't think that's headcanon, he really is just supposed to be that fucking socially awkward.
I like the scenes where he runs into Tomorrow but doesn't know what to do or say to her so he escapes to his room
who the fuck is the red samurai?
I'm feeling very mixed on the game, there's things I absolutely loved with it, but also a lot of things I really disliked, well I guess Kojima is happy as he said he wanted this
Starting to believe Kojima deliberately made MGS5 disappointing if he was already doing stuff like this before.
Loving the game but sadly can't read this thread. Fucking retards can't refrain from spoilers here. Unironically forced to go to reddit.
>>713721985 (OP)i dont have a ps5. I thought about telling my sisters bf to lend me his but i dont wanna take the guys games away for like 3 weeks while i finish the game.
>>713744248What is Kojima's obsession with protagonists that show zero emotion or even reaction to events? Venom was the same way. Does Kojima just think it looks cool and stoic?
>>713744418Whoever you want him to be anon
>>713742016I think MGSV has some of their best work in sound. Everything feels so tactile and lived in.
https://youtu.be/HCqRYu4Xn9I?si=2kDudotSsAVynM8i&t=353
>>713723956i didn't like the first one cause it wasn't weird enough, it also barely has a story. Almost the whole story of the game comes at the very end when he dumps like 2 hours of exposition on you out of nowhere.
>>713744520He really likes Drive (2011)
>>713744409The issue is that it be fine if it was just Sam, but almost the other characters are like that; Tarman is a bit wooden, Fragile barely is trying, Rainy is "fine" I guess? Heartman isn't as good as the first game Deadman doesn't feel like himself after his "death" recording.
The only exception is Dollman. and Charlie/DieHardman
why was DieHardman so zesty thought, like the fucker really danced after the big villain AI told it's goal. And the AI was so weirded it it fucked off from the game.
>>713744520Even Venom showed more emotion than Sam. He was very broken up over Pazโs death
>>713721985 (OP)I really liked the first three MGS games and maybe Peacewalker. Kojima is so far in his own ass this past decade that I really can't enjoy his games no more.
>>713744638This and also he's a huge Nic Refn simp
>>713744543is he not revealed? ass
>>713744982He is
kinda?
I don't get how Higgs later got in it.
He was pretty much a non-character just here for you to clap and shout "It's Gray Fox!"
>>713744838> favorite directors are refn and tarantinoHe might be the biggest brainlet of all time.
>>713745091his favorite director is George Miller, it's why his likeliness is Tarman
>>713744683>why was he so zestyI think the idea was, by that point Die-Hardman knew he had already won. APAS had stepped right into his trap and he was just doing a victory lap.
>>713744575Something I didn't like about MGSV however is its lack of sounds for different surfaces, and how samey the sprinting sound is. MGS4 on the other hand has an absurd amount of incredible sounding footstep sounds for like every single unique surface in the game, it sounds so good
>>713745191But APAC didn't lose, they just kinda leave and the plot is never really resolved or even acknowledged by the game.
it be like if the Patriot AI speech in MGS2 ended up being a complete dud.
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luv me BB
luv sam
luv fragile
luv higgs
luv deadman
luv heartman
luv diehardman
luv tarman
luv dollman
luv tomorrow
luv rainy
luv cliff
luv neil
'ate amelie
'ate lucy
lockne and malingen who
>>713744829I always feel that people like you just have a conformation bias cause you spend too much time on /v/ and get your opinions from here and so you see literally everything as some artsy, pretentious masturbatory attempt from Kojima when you're the one looking for shit like that instead of actually engaging with the game honestly as a product that can stand on it's own. I guarantee you if you didn't know Kojima made DS you wouldn't have the same opinion. Though all this is me giving you the benefit of the doubt in assume you even tried to play it in the first place and aren't just concern trolling while having never actually touched DS1 or 2.
>>713745347Holy fucking cringe
did anyone actually used the Lockne or Deadman voice on Charlie or are everyone using Die Hardman?
>>713745163>>713745347Having George Miller as your favorite director is even worse than having Refn or Tarantino. Hard to imagine such a person even exists.
>>713745619You can't actually use any of the other options, you have to pick DH in the end
>>713745640He's a great filmmaker, I don't see the issue.
>>713744583>i didn't like the first one cause it wasn't weird enough
>>713745721Oh what happens if you do?
Been enjoying it alot more than the first game, but there is definitely long periods where you don't get story moving forward. I wish they found some new crumbs for preppers to feed you, all the big stuff is in the main path.
>>713721985 (OP)Does anyone know the story?
I didn't finish the first one, but according to someone, the natural disaster takes the form of a person and the protagonist kind of convinces it not to destroy the world or some shit. Why is the world still a mess in DS2?
>>713745727>I don't see the issue.Yeah, that's the problem.
playstation exclusivity pains me
>>713745619I bet you also agreed to help Fragile at the start without even trying the other option.
>>713721985 (OP)Anyone else playing without the online features?
>>713727864Just pretend that it's possible
>>713745783He makes a bunch of excuses for why he can't use that person and tells you to pick someone else
Why are Lockne and her sister in the final cutscene in the circle thing, when she wasn't on the ship? Tarman's son I can understand since he got caught there and also may or may not be the cat, but Lockne and her sister are literally not in the game physically, they don't even contact you.
>>713745872They have to scale down some of the building stuff if you do, some of the mid-late ones cost 3-4k and that is one of two resources. Used an entire mine for ceramics, zip lined to repair road and repeat.
I don't know why people were saying this was the best looking PS5 game. Horizon FW still looks much better in motion. Otherwise the game is... okay, at best. It's like I'm playing DS1 all over again. Which I loved because it was new, but so far this just feels redundant. I would have preferred a new IP to this.
>>713745865I did refuse this one, but I didn't refuse any other out of fear it would actually make me miss things
>>713745482Nigga, I come from playing his games. I loved MGS1 and MGS3. MGS4 was horrendous. Peacewalker was kinda fun if you didn't listen too much into the audio tapes. MGSV was fucking shit, finished or unfinished. DS1 is just fucking boring and pretentious, trying so hard to be unique, at the same time. If other people keep spouting the same critiques have it ever crossed your mind that maybe, just maybe, there is truth to that?
>>713745321He mentions how the new Q-Pid model was designed to essentially cut off the APAS server from the rest of the world, which would basically lobotomize the AI and make it a normal tool again. But this plan was made without the knowledge that the whole thing was used as a red-herring from Higgs to find a way to trigger the Last Stranding again. Itโs why the whole plot seemingly got dropped. Die-Hardmanโs plan worked, but it didnโt matter because Higgs never needed them
I wonder if they will do a collab with the MGS3 remake when it releases in August.
We know the new MGS guy really likes Kojima. And this game did have a really random pac-man collab.
>>713746019Yeah you haven't played it, thanks for making it glaringly obvious at least so I can ignore any other retard shit you say.
This game has made me laugh more than cry.
>>713746063such a weird thing for the president to them gives you a big colonel AI speech only to be resolved instantly.
I'm starting to believe there's a lot of memberberry for MGS in this game which are Kojima almost mocking the players. Or at least I assume this because it would mean he lost his touch a little if not..
>>713746197Even thought it has a few emotional moments, it doesn't hit as hard as they are often quickly resolved, I felt like the first death stranding was lot more emotional
thought your screenshot actually is hinting at Dollman controlling the anti-BT machine.
>>713745995Fuck off Herman your shitty robot dino series will never be popular.
What did Sam do to deserve all the suffering that befalls him both in this game and the first one holy shit
Kinda feel bad for Higgs too, he got screwed over royally by amelie
When are they releasing the "1 million players" announcement?
>>713746432I feels like this game really tried to whitewash Amelie and her bullshits, even thought she doesn't speak at all in this game, all the background stuff is trying to make her better.
>>713744418It's literally LOU
>>713746430Hey retard, Kojima is using that game's engine. I'm just saying all the hype about DS2 being THE MOST GORGEOUS GAME ON THE PS5 YET WOW is mostly bullshit. Horizon 2 definitely looks better.
I understand there was a lot of support from other Sony studios but with how well it looks and is optimized I hope Kojipro will be able to keep using Decima even thought none of their franchises now are owned by Sony.
But OD is moving on the unreal engine, so I'm not sure
>>713746617I don't care what your shill ass has to say Herman you delusional kike.
>>713746532I felt that too, it was kind of cheap
>>713744368Everyone got used to death. Plus death is not the end
>>713746421First game is alot of build up, the payoffs is all at the tail end of the game. Works in its favor for people who actually saw it to the end.
>trillions of aid requests scattered everywhere
honest, genuine question. who gives a fuck? I have not once interacted with any of the literal endless aid requests. every autopaver has one in front of it. why the absolute fuck would I donate materials to the request and NOT the paver?
also
>every 30 seconds
>5+ notifications about literal who players donating random shit to random shit across the map
the fact that these are all activated by default is such an absolute failing
>>713745995>>713746617Nah DS2 is insanely good looking. The only game in existence that I say could maybe hold a candle to how good this game looks is probably Red Dead Redemption 2. That anon is right you're completely full of shit to say fucking Horizon of all things looks better. That game looks like shit. You've got to be shilling.
>>713744368Dollman did have one, thought it was off-screen
>>713746815it's because there's a skill that automatically spawn help request, it's fairly cheap, so I think a lot of people ends up getting it
>>713744368Apocalypse induced autism on a global scale.
>>713746019>MGSV was fucking shit, finished or unfinished.>DS1 is just fucking boring and pretentious, trying so hard to be unique, at the same time.I really couldnโt disagree more with either of these reviews, and Iโm a big old real deal Kojima fan whoโs been playin his games for 25+ years and holds basically every MGS game but MGS4 and Peace Walker in high esteem.
I thought MGSV was spread a little thin and that the new version of MGO wasnโt quite as good as 4โs (the best part of that game), but I had a lot of fun with it, dug the cassette tapes and level design, etc.
Death Stranding is totally an indulgent, heavy-handed, self-serious and political sci-fantasy, but itโs one of like five video games I can think of where it really did โget goodโ for me about three or four hours in, once I unlocked the second map. Itโs genuinely a good game imo, but it frontloads a lot of very long cutscenes and ends with a bit of random boss rush and like 45 minutes of cutscenes and credits.
The delivery mechanics and building roads and ziplines for other players was fun enough for me to play the story and do a lot of the more interesting side orders.
Some of the boss fights are half-baked, just like MGSV, but I still had a lot of fun and liked the story it told.
So wait, about the non lethal Australian soldiers
they say they hate technology
but they use the same exact technology
including weapons given by Higgs thought they don't use the lethal mode.
>Sam... Sam had a hard life
>>713746953>mechanic to literally skip playing the gamethe aid request existing at all is the problem
>>713746979MGS5 being unfinished is pretty much a meme which got too far mixed with people misunderstanding what Kojima wanted to say.
MGO was supposed to be bigger but the team behind it, which was a different one, got a lot of troubles, external and internal, so it was a bit barebone and due to all their issues the studio ended up closing doors pretty quickly.
>>713742701>MGS4, MGS5, They are good
>>713747046Yea it's called being a hypocrite
>>713746831Do you own the game or are you just in the PC waiting lobby defending Kojima? It looks good. It doesn't blow previous games out of the water like I was led to believe. I feel like DS2 is going to become another FFXVI where people who've played it realize it kind of sucks and port beggars insist it's a masterpiece based on no more than faboyism. Maybe it'll get better, but right now I'm disappointed.
>>713746421It was just one of Sam's wacky dreams.
I miss them anons.
I miss them a lot.
>>713746197Itโs definitely the funniest Kojima game and, dare I say, breaks the โ>Japanese humorโ curse
>>713746421Yeah, DS1 was essentially a buildup to one massive non-stop 3+ hr emotional release, whereas 2 has these more isolated pockets.
The fucker still managed to wring out some decent waterworks from me, but it didnt leave me a bawling mess like 1.
>>713747238>everyone who disagrees with me is a fanboyOr maybe people just don't agree with you. You argue like a fucking woman. Get a life you loser.
>>713747195The virgin "Australian hypocrites" vs the chads "Mexicans who just steal your stuff to survive"
>>713747363Bandits aren't as fun when they aren't just autistic people who are obsessed with packages.
>fuckton more roads in the game
>bandit camps aren't overflowing with resources anymore
>siphoning metal+ceramic from every npc STILL isn't enough to build roads
>once you've done that, they regain materials too slowly to ever be useful again
>ceramic mine is endgame onry
>>713747387All I asked is if you own the game or are being a faggot. Seems to be the latter, retard. The game that developed the engine looks better in motion than the game borrowing the engine. I stand by that, mainly because I own both games and don't have to delude myself.
>>713747385I'm a bit annoyed because while DS2 did have some really good scenes, some were almost ruined by something dumb happening just after, the cutscene direction is a lot more chaotic, it's almost too much at time, it felt like a Kojima game but more like "what people think are Kojima games" if that make any sense.
>>713747580A lot of artists past their peak fall into emulating themselves rather than following the same intuition that led them to create their signature styles in the first place. I get what you're saying.
>>713747705It was weird, like, before playing this game, I still had some vague hope that one day, Kojima make a new Metal Gear Solid game, but after playing Death Stranding 2, which I did liked, I told myself "Actually, maybe a new MGS should be handled by someone else, someone new."
>>713747548Pretentious dick heads like you who love to pretend to be so impartial and fair completely free of bias are always the most biased people of all. You aren't some enlightened free thinker, you're just a contrarian.
>>713745825She can't undo the damage, and it started on its own. The full on disaster started specifically because she tried to help, which made her feel like it was unavoidable. From the beginning Amelie/Bridget was trying to find a way out for humanity but essentially gave up. The end of DS1 is Sam convincing Amelie to let humanity fuck around and try to cope with the new state of things, so she seals herself off on a beach so no one can reach her again. It's heavily implied the end is still going to happen, it's just happening slower and some of humanity might be able to survive it.
Can't you just post on reddit? Who cares about your normie garbage.
>>713748025What in the fuck are you talking about you projecting, hysterical woman? Do you own the fucking game or not? I said the game's visuals aren't as amazing as the hype claims and used Horizon 2, the OTHER Decima game, as comparison. Does that compute, retard? Do you own either of these games? Do you even have a PS5 or you just screeching like a faggot because I got under your skin somehow? Stupid fanboy faggot.
>>713741897lol Lucy, as in Sam's wife? Is she just cheating on Sam the entire game lol
>>713748352Proving my point
>>713744072Wow, Higg's stole princess beach's hair.
Can you get the trenchcoat that sam wears at the start later or is it just for that one section?
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Is Kojima a simp?
>>713740929How did Higgs turn into a dumb, rocker-style parody of himself in Death Stranding 2? In the first game, he seemed more โsane,โ didnโt he
>>713733930based alpha male
>>713748842I mean he WAS stuck on Amelie's beach alone for god knows how long
How does Niel compare to Cliff?
>>713748842Because he was stuck on the beach for 11 months in real time where a single second can be several days or even months or more on the beach.
>>71374884210000 years of solitude peobably fucks you up a bit
>>713748842Time.
Time on the beach moves much much slower than time in the real world.
That and all the betrayal.
>>71374891310,000 years
>>713748973He's ok but he's no Mads
>>713748913after the ending of the first game?
>>713748446Conceding to mine. Try again in the future, dumbass.
>>713748973Niel can never stand up to Cliff just by virtue of his whole schtick being a re-tread of the Cliff stuff in DS1. It was novel in DS1 but not any longer.
>>713748973We got Cliff at home, basically.
>>713748842>>713749038that and Troy Baker is a singer so Kojima just really wanted an excuse for him to have a guitar.
of all the weird wacky things that break the immersion, I actually did liked the guitar fight.
>>713748973He's Cliff but more boring, and he look like Solid Snake for reasons (there's no reasons).
>>713749281sam and higgs rubbing their di- i mean guitars together was pretty cool yeah
Will there be a DS3? Did they finally end the shit?
>>713743441It's funny seeing people seethe online because Kojima "wasted" good grafix on this game
>>713745898She and her Q-pids are the one that lets you sever the connection to the patriot AI. All Chiral network need some sort of bridging like a BB or Locke/Mama so she's your other end to pull the crew back.
>>713746320I think the Patriot BBEG was supposed to be the main villain for DS2 but Kojima got enough success to keep the crew like Norman Reedus and Troy around so he wrote around them to get the game out asap. Pretty sure we will see them or something similar again in DS3 with Ellen as protag
>>713749478Kojima said he want a DS3 by someone else and the ending clearly is open-ended, but Kojima also said this many time with Metal Gear and it never happened beside for the side games.
Physint won't be here until 2030, and OD also is in development, so if there's a DS3, it be in 2035 at best, and that's if Kojima doesn't work on something else.
>>713749478No, there is a stinger tease after the final credits
>>713749537He did say he rewrote the game including fairly late in development, so maybe it's this.
I pity the poor staff members having to redo a good part of the game because Kojima randomly changed his opinion.
Is it true that Lou is dead?
Because I will not play the game if they kill Lou
>>713749807Lou is Tomorrow
>>713749807Lou is Tomorrow but it's only revealed at the end.
>>713721985 (OP)kojima hasnt made a good game since mgs3.
>>713749869>>713749871Ok I will play the game then
Thank you for a restrained spoiler
Absolute Kojima KINO!
COME TO XBOX ALREADY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
what is kojima's obsession with dogshit indie rock
Grahhh where is the soundtrack I want to hear the final boss soundtrack the fight was too short for me to fully enjoy it
>>713749472>9 US foot size 5'8 hapaPerfect
>>713750034All pseuds listen to that trash.
Let's be honest, it was actually fucking kino.
I hope they release this version of BB's theme.
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Am I reaching? It's the same cutscene director working on both so I'm half/half on it being intentional
noooooooooo it's the same fucking gameplay, fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me fool me thrice you are officially that guy kojimbo
>>713750289This bit was such a mental flashbang that I wasnโt even able to register in the moment that my months-old suspicions about him were 100% right
>>713750289I was so dumbfounded during this scene I felt like my brain was having a seizure, I still don't know if it was total crap or kino. Even the AI looks fucking confused at what is happening. I felt like Kojima just had lost it.
I cringed a little when I saw Peko.
>>713721985 (OP)You can stop raiding this thread now Nincels. I thought you guys loved the intermission tracks in MKW? Shouldnโt you go back to playing it?
>>713750607cringe = pogchamp btw
>>713746532Isn't it the opposite? I thought she tried to be a better person after repatriating Sam but she was gunning after his first born to replace his role as the uber-BB to be sacrificed.
>>713750336No, but it's also a MGS1 and RDR2 reference
>>713750794the game says she prohibited BB stuff but that it was someone else at Bridges doing this
So what happened to Bridges, I know they pretty much got replaced by the automatic thing, but like, these guys weren't just porters, they had actual soldiers and shit, did these guys just put no fight at all despite all flashback showing them as tactical special ops trigger-happy soldiers?
I can't blame Neil for being Cholo, but I can blame Lucy for being Irish.
>>713750519Kojima, like George Lucas, is an unhinged retard who goes where no one else goes. 90% of the time it's bad but when it's good it's amazing. Exactly the sort of person who needs a good team to tard wrangle them. The inevitable problem with such people is that when their tard-wrangled schitzokino becomes successful they gain more independence and eventually are allowed to roam too far off leash and go full retard.
On the whole I prefer retards who sometimes make kino but sometimes make schizo to professionals who just churn out slop. The lows are lower but the highs are higher.
>>713751032I guess Kojima without any wrangler like his Konami days both have good and bad
>>713751032Kind of like how most of MGS3 has laughably bad acting and over explained exposition cutscenes but the ending just hits you like a truck
we're going to have a 3D model of Lauren Mayberry...
I hope Physint won't be as wacky ngl
>>713751160Kojima did not handled the english voice acting of MGS3. You have to play the japanese version with the japanese dub to see his direction. I think the remake will enables this internationally for the first time
Any Low Roar in the soundtrack?
>>713736389>>713731493Why isnโt Fragile a prune from the beck down? iโve been suspicious of her all game because of it but Sam has never brought it upโฆ
>>713750991Bridges was always a UCA proxy.
>>713751336There is, less than Woodkid, but there is.
>>713751369It's explained when you meet Rainy
Why are the survivalist using lethal weapons and are so open to triggering void outs? this will kill them, are they stupid?
>>713748783Does the pope shit in the woods?
>>713751160>Kind of like how most of MGS3 has laughably bad actingDid you even play Metal Gear Solid?
>>713750913i'm joking about the arthur v micah fire fist fight; i think you're not far off with the DMC stuff
So since it's revealed Higgs controlled ALL the phantoms, this means that when he was having his little guys in red clocks, it was basically him playing with toy soldiers and doing funny choreography even when Sam isn't here. He really was bored.
>Sam finally learns to love anew with Fragile
>She dies shortly after
AAAAAAAAAA I HATE YOU KOJIMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>713751386Good to know. Thanks anon.
>go to Australia
>one of the first missions is delivering a fucking kangaroo to CHVRCHES amidst a bushfire
I love Kojima so much. It's so retarded but it works.
>>713751778god dammit why did i get spoiled
Wait, how are the phantoms still around when Higgs is dead?
>>713751843looking for logical consistency in a kojima game is a fool's errand. he does not give a fuck about any of that
>>713751837I'm genuinely sorry anon, you should probably not be in this thread though
>>713751843Higgs will never die, he'll always be back baby
>>713751843So you can play the game after it ends and finish the missions, anon... Kojima knows you want to 100% it.
So what was the BIG TWIST that Kojima kept teasing? To me the story played a lot more safer than the first game.
>>713750884Well, that explains why Lou was still BB0 despite Sam being the initial target.
>>713750336It's actually the northman reference
>>713752153I think Sam was even before this, it was for him to be a prototype BB, there was BB prototypes too as shown in the DLC of DS1, most just died.
>>713728582Why would you buy games if you only watch them?
Amelie or Lucy, who is worse
>>713752064Charlie is Die Hardman
The president of UCA is an AI mixed with human souls who wants you to live in ze pod to have a zero covid-voidout policy
Higgs is a pawn of the AI but not really
Tomorrow is Lou
Sam got cucked by Neil Vana
>>713752309Amelie by far, Lucy was extremely unprofessional and a cheater but she was a regular woman. Amelie did a lot of fucked up stuff all for the "greater good"
>>713738189>tries to engagement farm>shit numbers>not even $10 of postsAHAHAHAHAHA
>>713752367technically it's a double cucking because Neil wasn't aware of Sam at first or that he wasn't the father.
So why was Lucy blamed for the void-out when it was Neil who did it?
When I saw Older Lou after the creditsI thought the game was going to continue from here, but then it was over. I felt a little empty. This entire ending left me a little empty. Was I waiting for too much?
If you bought this game you deserve it
>>713751943Don't worry i'm fragile but i'm not that fragile
>>713752546It's what she deserved for taking advantage of her patients
>>713752808and then she died to one bullet, she really was Fragile, "I don't break easy" my ass
OKAY, SOMEONE JUST TELL ME WITHOUT ELABORATING:
Do they ever explain why Fragile's skin isn't fucked up anymore?
Why does Higgs sound so weird when he said "THE FUCK" multiple times during the game like sound genuinely confused at what is happening
>>713751486>It's explained when you meet RainyIt was never explained. It was hinted though visualization.
Can't believe I'm saying this but my biggest complaint is that I wanted more story and surprises. Maybe I wouldn't feel the same if he hadn't shown literally everything that happens in the game in trailers already.
>>713752904Yes
>>713752619Maybe DS3 will play like Gravity Rush or something.
I'm the only one who didn't liked how the story turned out? it's like the story decided to become "Kojima's best-works" full of references, but with none of the payoff from his old stories, it was like, here for you like a bunch of jiggling keys. It was wacky for the sake of wacky.
>>713753181It was derivative, yeah. I enjoyed it but it was really derivative especially the Neil shit, why is he a soldier? He was a fucking porter smuggling mexican women, he wasn't a fucking soldier
>the only things I build are roads, ladders and anchor ropes
>>713750336I thought of the same thing lol
>>713753374He doesn't have any reasons to look like Solid Snake, his design has nothing to do with his character and story, it was just here to bait fans in trailers and maybe Kojima wanted him to play Snake in the upcoming MGS movie he may or may not ends up working on.
>>713752906It's called acting
>>713753374All the Neil shit is garbage. His sequence at the end is almost 1:1 recreation of the Cliff-BB sequence at the end of the first game.
>>713752367Sam cucked Neil Vana. He was dating the therapist before she met Sam, she broke it off with Neil, got pregnant with Sam's kid, and then convinced Neil she was pregnant with his kid in order to try and get out of America.
Just finished it I don't know how he some how reeled it all back in the end but Kojima did it. What a fucking ending
>>713753450Playing without online structures you quickly realize that you don't need much more than that.
The coffin hoverboard is the true game breaker, once you linked enough zones, it's the best vehicle
"The record leaves no room for doubt"
>>713721985 (OP)>Today is out and you're all dead? I hope because you're playing it!Amazon didn't ship my copy.... they i'm forced to wait until they get more stock. And this was a PREORDER.
Kojima stop making me laugh at melancholic moments.
>he kept Lea's adorable tooth gap
Kojima is a man of culture.
I like how people praise objectively bad games cause "ITS ART", same reason retards paid millions for a banana taped to a wall.
>>713754598She would look better if she fixed it.
>>713754662The first death stranding game felt more art than this one, this one felt more like Kojima caving in to people who complained
>>713754792How? Its the same game
>>713754792The only difference is the first one felt like an adventure this one feels like linear open world game somehow
>I canโt help you with that. I make deliveries.
i just got to villa libre, how far away is pekora?
What are some times where you acted like Neil?
>>713755897Other side of the world.
>>713755957what the fuck was his plan to actually escalate the situation? was he stupid?
Can we agree that this is the greatest trailer ever made?
https://youtu.be/eT_A2gPhTIw?si=mg6T8ykfyhunqs0v
>>713756218>10 minutesJesus upload a walkthrough why don't you
>>713756181Look, we needed a foreign guy with a dark suit and a pistol who dies a tragic death in the pre-apocalypse flashbacks
>>713740540Its a direct continuation of the story, but as a huge fan with 500 hours into DS1 across 3 playthroughs, it doesn't make any sense anyway. You will barely be more confused than anyone else. They also recap the first game multiple times.
>>713756392Neil feels like "what if Cliff COMPLETELY fuck it up?" his death isn't really a heroic stand out like Cliff, who did succeed in protecting Sam despite dying, in the long run, Neil instantly fumbles it and dies anticlimactically as none of his plans works and his girlfriend dies with him. I don't understand if Kojima realize how lame he made the character, especially considering he looks like Snake
>>713756392Mads is just too cool to try to replicate like that.
>Another barren wasteland Kojimadrones will glaze for being โthe best game everโ and itโs just walking
Itโs amazing how much dick riding people do for this mediocre trash.
Did Kojima forget Sam is a BB or is he just retconning shit with no care
>>713723956>Kojima rewrote the second game because people liked the first draft to much, and it shows, he made it worse on purpose.no shit, he's been very open about it
>>713747406>tfw she sends you Mumei tier art
>>713757542Her art is pretty damn good. What a babe.
Deadman, nooooo. Don't go toward the light! There are killer whales there. Can't you see them!!!
Yes, I have no idea what's happening but am looking forward to more.
>>713756297She's in the last 3/4ths of the game
You start on the west coast of 'straya and shes on the east coast
Really surprising thought koji would put her earlier to capitalise on the memes
>>713757787I'm pretty sure Peko replaced someone else and was added pretty late in the game.
>>713758086I was not aware of that
>>713758267It's only a theory but I wouldn't be surprised by it, she only got noticed by Kojima when she played MGS1, which was like, last year I think?
>>713721985 (OP)This reads like a Japanese post
Kojima, is that you?
You think the MGS3 remake team took paid vacations to play the game? A lot of them are former coworkers of Kojimbo
>>713758335She played the mgs series years ago thoughbeit
Before permissions autism
Either way happy she's in, totally in line with Kojimas brand of autism
>>713758717Konami monitors their psn accounts, they have to perform 100 dogezas and take a bokken batsu if they bought it
>>713758849Seeing her felt a bit immersion breaking as she was barely made to even fit the game, it's just Peko, it was so strange to see, she even give you her stupid hat
My name is sam!
>>713758717no lmao
>>713758903>he doesn't knowthe new head of Metal Gear is a big supporter of Kojima, who used to work with him a very long time ago.
can you stop talking about this game i'm waiting for the PC release
>>713723956Compared to the first, how much shooting and fighting with humans is there? More or less? I found the combat with BT's to be the worst part of the first and wanted more human enemies to mix things up more often.
>>713759034Elle Fanning is the baby all grown up
>>713759226Fighting against humans is much better, there's more enemy types, more weapons, it's really easy thought, enemies are pretty stupid with barebone AIs.
Against BT it's pretty much the same as the original game, which usually mean "it's either you love it or hate it"
You also no longer have to switch for ammunition manually and they automatically switch mode depending on what are you shooting, and using lethal ammo is now a secret option which require you to input a secret command for multiple seconds instead of selecting it like the first game.
>>713731493Everything with these 3 is an absolute cringe fest. Kojima needs to be reeled in when his boner is obviously in control.
Its been a decade but I still just want PT back bros...
I appreciate and respect what Kojima is doing with this series but it just isn't for me, I wish Konami weren't such fucking faggots
>>713762829It's always been short for Louise
2019
>It's not a walking simulator! Kojima-san wouldn't do that.
>Okay it's a walking simulator. And that's a good thing. Americans are great fans of first-person shooters and Death Stranding isn't one, it flies higher.
2025
>Prease buy my shooting game
Early reviews in
>I made it bad on purpose
It comes out
>Pretend to win
>>713721985 (OP)>>Seems like an enhanced version of 1 gameplay wise.So far it feels like a bit of an auto-correct, like you get a vehicle in Act 1 now and so far I haven't really felt like I'm sweating with these deliveries. And combat is so much easier now that stealth is pointless, you even get rubber bullets pretty much straight away.
>>713762416>I appreciate and respect what Kojima is doing with this series but it just isn't for me, I wish Konami weren't such fucking faggotsThat's exactly how i feel. Kinda weird to see people wanting others to tardwrangle Kojima when that's the only thing that's holding the project together. Any other director on the planet that attempts to release a game with this kind of gameplay can kiss his entire career goodbye
wow, I can't wait to do a fetch quest with janky controls in a barren environment for ten minutes so I can earn a ten-minute cutscene of the MC taking orders from uncanny bitchy womyn
such sovl
I'm buying a PS5 right now
take my shekels kojimbo
After Mexico I don't know what to believe or feel anymore
>>713737125When I heard the game had removed some of the friction I knew it was over, the friction was the whole fucking point, we helped each other because of it.
>>713738189Did he not like DS1? Because if you love this game you have to love that one, making this his best game since...his last one? He makes it sound like a big comeback
>Barely any threads and the only main thread is going at a snail's pace
good. This autistic gook needs to wake the fuck up.
>>713721985 (OP)Real DS fans will prefer the first game, DS2 is good but it doesn't understand why the first was so good
I remember an interview mentioning that because of the online stuff they could see the tech/gadgets in DS1 that the playerbase didn't engage with and removed them from DS2, are there any obvious examples that come to mind? Kinda curious what it was that didn't land.
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this is mexican? lol
>>713771215I thought she wasn't wearing any pants at first
>>713771215Questioning this is a path to madness, similar to asking why Japanese vtubers and Scottish singers live in Australia
this game runs a lot better than i expected it to. If the rumors are true about a switch 2 version of DS1, i dont think it would be too much of a stretch to anticipate DS2 on switch 2
I regretted my words and deeds.
>>713771397>this game runs a lot better than i expected it to.That's because it's a PS4 game.
>>713754773you are a soulless fuck
>>713772130I mean it's also scoped well and isn't a UE game with retarded features turned on
>music still cuts off when you're near a facility
you had one fucking job
>>713756559That is how Konami killed Metal Gear.
>>713772271Unreal is owned by the Chinese. No patriotic Japanese man would ever use it.
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>>713771215now THIS is what a mexican looks like
>>713740690Yeah but this sequence is gorgeous
Now that the Sam Bridges story is over, how would Death Stranding 3 play out?
>>713740690The problem about Death Stranding is the ending is what answers all the questions presented in the game.
>>713772868I think Kojima has said if it happens, he'll come up with the concept but hand it off to his team to do it in his place, he's moving on
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so what do you guys think so far? i just started and it feels just like death stranding but with button differences and more qol and nicer graphics. im also liking the new music and i miss holding lou.
>>713721985 (OP)Just took a quick listen and the soundtrack is a major downgrade compared to the first. I still might watch someone play it at some point. The giant winged tar mech thing they showed in the trailers looks cool.
>>713773542It's Death Stranding without the soul so far, which is still a good game but there's a reason why Death Stranding was so good and it wasn't the lack of '''''qol''''' that was holding it back. And straight up, you can't just repeat the same thing twice, COVID shit was huge for the first game, the 'reunite the world. again' just doesn't hit as hard the second time
>>713773897Remember how great it was that you'd busted your ass to climb to an outpost and after connecting it to the Chiral Network you instantly got connected to other players who had set ropes, ladders and zip lines for you to make it back much easier? Well this game all but negates that completely, at least so far, you get a bike in the first Act and so far I haven't found many places I can't boost too. It gives you the means to deal with BTs straight away and you get non lethal guns instantly too, so the Mules aren't an issue
>>713773897i kept playing DS1 because of the gameplay and music, never really cared for the story other than that one ending scene with DHM. so far DS2 feels like a totk-esque sequel but less offensive
>>713773897I'm a couple of chapters in and liking it but I think it is more of a grab bag of ideas (and they're mostly good ones) rather than having one big core underlying theme
>>713774173I just feel it's really telling how it's getting all these rave reviews now and citing 'better pacing' and 'qol'. Not going to say the game sold out but it feels like a 'give the people what they want' situation, sould be damned, the people want less friction and we'll give it to them.
Oh and I haven't even mentioned the boss fights, one of the parts of DS1 I actually just didn't enjoy. They're almost exactly as tanky and boring as they were in the first game, as well as being messy as shit. The combat in DS2 is so much easier to the point of invalidating stealth but this doesn't translate to boss fights.
>there's already several cross continent highways for Australia
if you didn't play at launch you didn't beat the game
someone post the fucking dance
>>713721985 (OP)The same barren wasteland shit
But people will glaze it because it's kojima but if Ubisoft made this everyone would be shitting on it.
>>713774528https://www.dbltap.com/reviews/death-stranding-2-review
> Death Stranding 2โs world is packed and varied. It solves the issue of the first gameโs finale โ which forced you to backtrack the entire route but ruined all the logistical building work you did along the way with plot contrivances How am I supposed to read lines like this and not think people didn't understand the first game at all, thus making their glowing DS2 reviews read like a load of shit?
>>713773542As a game, DS2 is better than DS1 in almost every regard. Sam moves noticeable faster making combat much snappier and the gameplay is overall more action-heavy. Accessing (quick)menus is also improved. The game feels smooth to play.
The day/night cycle adds another important element to the overall vibe that was DS1. Taking an order, traversing, clearing or avoiding bandit camps and picking up lost packages, all that while the moon shines upon your back and then as you finish up your delivery the sun comes up. This is sublime.
After 5-6 hours the one thing that could maybe turn out worse than DS1 is story but I'll have to see whether that remains true.
>>713775418Isn't that specifically talking about the part where everyone does the Power of Love thing to pull Sam back from Bridget's Beach, but then for the next part Deadman is immediately like "sorry Sam you were stuck on that Beach for a while and it's been raining while you were away, literally every structure was destroyed by Timefall"
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how do i do the skip boss thing? these bosses fucking suck just like DS1
>>713775276fuck all of you ill do it
>>713775650Yes, he's complaining about the timefall destroying all your structures. Again, just another moan about a game pulling the rug from you or having any sort of friction whatsoever, so what if it's contrived? (Not played DS1 in ages but I'm pretty sure Timefall is a threat literally because it destroys structures like that, so where is the contrivance here anyway?) And the bit where you find the ladder from the guy who died near the very start of the game was a great moment.
>>713721985 (OP)>I hope because you're playing it!Shill thread. Fuck off nigger
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she wasnt lying
that ass can fart
>>713775821Timefall is like games with time limits, it's danger is mostly psychological - like your structures and things like roads do take constant damage over time, but it's pretty slow.
The map wipe is contrived in the sense that it's just that, a map wipe to make the end game part uniform for everyone and make you do things the hard way instead of you getting any sense of achievement from using your shortcuts and safe routes
I gotta stress it's not a problem for ME, I just think that's clearly what that guys take is
>>713721985 (OP)I just beat it. Oh my god this was absolutely fantastic. Only issue for me is that I'm having a hard time getting into the post game, and I didn't understand what the guitars were all about (very VERY cool setpiece though)
Whoever says this is a walking sim or is lacking in atmosphere has not played this game
>>713776232>a map wipe to make the end game part uniform for everyone and make you do things the hard way instead of you getting any sense of achievement from using your shortcuts and safe routesYou have been getting this satisfaction the entire game though? Like I said the game just pulls the rug from you when you felt the most comfortable and made you go back to basics. And to me it emphasized one of the best parts of DS's open world, that unlike most open world games the world here is an obstacle and justified it's expanse by giving you the freedom of choice to choose how you tackled it as opposed to finding rare collectibles or whatever. And the players helped each other overcome this obstacle the entire game, so losing that makes you feel really lonely until you find the ladder left by the NPC reminding you of the games themes of helping people. By the by, so far I have not had to build a damn thing or place a single ladder yet.
>>713775772This nigga lookin' ZESTY, this nigga lookin' MOIST, he's got sugar in his tank, he's light on his feet, he's a Ill bit fruity, he plays for the other team, he dances at the other end of the ballroom, this nigga theatrical, this nigga good with colors, this nigga gonna coordinate yo curtains wit you cushions and that shit gonna look good! This nigga lifts shirts, this nigga on the down low, this nigga be a tollet trader, this nigga gardens uphill, this nigga packs fudge, he's a friend of Dorothy, he feels the love that dare not speak Its name, he loves to dance, he's of the Uranian brotherhood, he indulges in the French vice, he has an antipathic sexual Instinct, he's fluent in Polari, he's a refugee from Sodom, he's on the wrong bus, he bats for the other team, he's temperamental, he's 'one of if you catch my drift.
While we're talking lack of friction or whatever, are the monorails as op as they sound?
>>713776906Looks kino to me
Did you discover the hidden theme of death stranding 1 anon?
>>713776980Hope you're recovering well from your lobotomy
>>713776906Just put Low Roar in a game and I'll walk in a straight line for hours I don't give a fuck
>>713776906>>713776961I wish Kojima would add a "Pretend to walk" button in DS3 so I can go straight to the next cutscene. This looks really boring.
>>713777173I can do that too, without DS2
>>713775689How the fuck are you this bad at easy games? Just get a PC.
>>713777540He's playing 2 so he's stuck with gamepad controls
>death stranding 1 it's about grinding a movie nobody cares about
>death stranding 2 its about grinding a movie nobody cares about
>>713777652Statistically a stationary head that is bigger than the hitbox of human enemies is easier than a charging dolphin with tentacles.
>>713778348You don't play the game at all.
>>713721985 (OP)>game has system in place to stop you fast traveling to location on the ship with cargo>can bypass this by just fast traveling closest desired location and taking out shared player cargo for location>make constant 1 minute delivery trips for massive gains and max out your stars completely bypassing the point of the gameHonestly how the fuck did they let players do this, once you know how to do it the entire veil of the games magic is eradicated
>>713778580Can you explain better?
Why the fuck isn't anyone building the monorails, I literally have to contribute all the materials myself.
>>713778580Ir's because gameplay was an afterthought. Kojima primarily wanted to make movies but he's too hacky for Hollywood.
>>713778657The game punishes you by fast traveling on the ship with cargo (even though this makes no sense lore wise, people are still getting their packages) In order to bypass the score reduction you fast travel on the ship to the place closest to your destination you plan to deliver to not the destination itself, then when you arrive, check the ships shared player cargo, take all the cargo for the place you ported near then take the minute delivery trip and rinse repeat to abuse
Eg. Fast travel to the Musician, take the shared player packages from the ship on foot down to Rainbow Valley, repeat and break the core gameplay loop of the game, you can do this basically over the whole map to 5-star all the facilities relatively easily, it kinda ruins the game and people will tell you "Well don't fucking do it then", but knowing a method exists in the game that just nullifies the games entire purpose of needing to travel with packages is stupid and should be patched out
>>713778908This is a hilariously stupid meme given what Kojima's last four games have been now, he quite literally took the bruising he got for MGS4 being so cinematics based so hard he virtually flipped his style, these games are extremely game play and mechanics heavy now.
>>713778580Is there another point to 5-star all facilities in DS2 or is it the same in the first game?
>>713779187That atleast requires those packages to be in the shared player storage, at this point its not like I can open the game and max out the Mechanic cause there isn't a ton of people leaving packages for him. Even if I fast travel to every single town, I don't think I'd get enough packages from ALL the shared lockers to max him out. The mid/early game areas sure. If its in the private locker, even if you teleport to anywhere other than the delivery location, its marked down in likes.