Are you enjoying Lex Imperialis anons?
I'm still on footfall but so far the character presentation in act 1 looked promising

>>713761119 (OP)
Most people haven't even fucking played it yet

>>713761416
Oh well I guess most people don't play 10 hours a day

So it's always best to go to Eurac V first since it gets you 1 profit factor right?
The other options have nothing as significant.

It's hard not to want to just wait until all of the DLCs come out for another playthrough

>>713762216
That will take two years.

>>713761119 (OP)
>Newest companion is fucking Jacob

>Hereticucks
>ruining the entire universe and turning everyone into literal fuckdolls for Chaos
>Dogmachuds
>will never make any progress whatsoever since all they do is instill more negative emotions in people thus birthing more negative Chaos shit due to all their extremist fanatical nonsense
>Iconochads
>loved by all, heretic sluts want his cock and corruption, dogmatic maidens secretly lust after him, constantly feeding positive vibes and emotions into the Warp making all Chaos """gods""" seethe as they're forced to experience happy thoughts, can understand Clown speak

>>713762302
He's a fucking arbites, he's the kind of guy that sould shoot Jacob for going rogue and joining a bunch of terrorist retard

>>713762242
I can wait

>>713762356
You can only fight Chaos with a sense of purpose.
The problem isn't negative feelings in general but nihilism.

People fall to chaos not because their life sucks, but because they realize it's meaningless.

>>713762356
I just always end up with split alignment because I often roleplay pragmatic characters
Honestly I am not too fond of how alignment works in this game

>>713762729
Reminder that the game needed a fourth conviction to be pragmatic and contrast iconokek

>>713761416
>them
yeah kys troon

>>713762827
What?

>see people hype them as judge dredds
>theyre just obsessed tax collectors

>>713762154
One of the shields they added to the Mechanicus shop in act 1 needs you to get the extra PF from Eurac so yes. It's a generic shield you'll just throw into cargo but still.

>>713762827
They are a faction of many people
It's quite literally they/them, like, grammatically there is no other way to put it.

>>713762154
screw the PF, it's worth going just to grab the longlas

>>713762827
Oh, I get it, they referred to the arbites as them. Except that they're talking about the adeptus arbites organization, so "them" is correct, ESL-kun

>>713762949
Tax collectors are/were the entire basis of the police force.

>>713762949
It's a setting issue, they get to go around doing cool stuff like investing system governors who might be planning on declaring independence or uprisings that threaten entire sub-sectors in the more populated regions but out in shitholes like Koronus their job amounts to going in, getting the tithe, and fucking off for a few decades.

>>713762949
Tax evasion is a crime, citizen.

>>713763414
judge and executioner going after baddies because theyre baddies is magnitudes more interesting than the IRS

Lads is it proper and romantic to make a lady waddle in sewer water for you?

>>713763792
This quest is one of the funniest ones in any crpg
It cracks me up every time

>>713763532
They are literally one and the same, anon.
That's my point.

>>713763792
It builds character

>ship combat
can you see what type of attacks enemies have anywhere? What the fuck is BLAST? Why should I go with a piece of shield that is stronger vs Blast over vs everything else?

>>713764075
Did you bring Kibbles and Pasqal? Has one of my favourite interactions when he sees the thieves.

Where is this black Judge Dredd even supposed to show up? I'm arriving on Dargonus rn, did i miss him somehow?

Not too heavy spoilers pls

>>713764753
I sure did

>>713764943
He's supposed to send you a message after you finish your business in dargonus, although I don't know if it's while you're there or after travelling for a few systems

>>713765130
I got the notification after two jumps.

How do I build a shotgun Arbites? I want to dual wield the shotguns.

>>713764976
By the way I completely forgot the order to do things in, I couldn't speak with the combat servitor which means I couldn't "solve" the mystery
I have no idea when you are supposed to speak with him to solve the fidelio thing

I remember doing it in an earlier playtrough.

Having to spam fire on myself to get traumas is starting to get old

>>713765274
Soldier, grab Dual Weapon Combat & the talent that lets you dual wield Shotguns, Concentrated Fire and then go Master Tact for extreme damage

>>713765762
Are you Bladedancer?

>>713762359
Jacob was also a military space cop before ME2

>>713765130
Aight ty

>>713765814
>Are you Bladedancer?
Yes

>>713765814
>then go Master Tact for extreme damage
How does this work?

>>713765360
Nevermind I'm fucking retarded
It was not the Combat servitor , it was the Normal servitor

>>713762356
>heretic sluts want his cock and corruption, dogmatic maidens secretly lust after him
Is this the kind of cope iconokeks to make up because Yrliet won't fuck them?

>>713761119 (OP)
I like the raven pet in the new class, idira can cast her buffs on everyone at once now

Kibellah, you shameless hobo, there is more to life than sleeping in trashcans

>Solomorne doesn't join you immediately after making you hike all the way back to footfall.

Absolute ass.

>>713770321
You have to do a ship battle and a boss fight, they really didn't want you to get him early

dunno but I'm definitely enjoying dual wielding shotguns and demolishing everything

>>713762949
they're the IRS of the Imperium

>>713768675
I keep hearing that Idira is a great character, but I can't think of any reason to let her live after that whole episode. Bitch is a threat to literally everyone and can't control it. Same with that dark eidar faggot, I'd like to see what he brings to the table but I can't see any logical reason to let it happen, so it would just ruin any sense of RP

>>713770621
Idira warns you before ambushes and gives correct if cryptic foretellings.
She's a risk but also objectively useful, and does not fuck up again after that episode.

>>713770621
>fall for all the shilling she gets here
>she's just as boring as Seelah but her pity bait story probably made anons develop jungle fever

>>713761119 (OP)
Why has my game updated 3 times since the dlc release? Did it really have that many bugs?

>>713771450
No, it was just minor hotfixes

>>713771450
hope not. I pirated that shit and haven't had any problems

When do you recruit Kibellah?
I thought it was act 1 but i've already been in 2 places

>>713771592
from what I can tell it's kinda random, but it always happens before you visit all of the locations there

>>713771592
Happened to me after the first location

>>713770621
the warp freakout is basically the peak of her arc of getting over the fact that theodora is dead and gone, and the rest of her quest is helping her find some way to deal with the voices, she asks a couple times how you pull through everything looking for advice and you do eventually find a possible solution in act 3 and 4. but it really fucking sucks cuz it's xenos tech and heinrix tells her not to put that shit on

>>713771181
I think she's a perfect fit for the crew. She's exactly the kind of reckless risk Rogue Traders take.

>add a bunch of Dark Heresy classes to Rogue Trader
>tease Dark Heresy with mostly Rogue Trader and Only War classes
Why are Owlcat such retarded faggots?

>>713772710
look at it this way, there will probably be the possibility of porting classes from one to the other with mods

>>713772756
Not that I care since their games suck anyways.
They don't know shit about 40k, so they should just go back to their Pathfinder cuckold simulators.

>>713772710
For the same reason you can't romance Argenta. Because FUCK YOU!!!!

>>713761119 (OP)
Dual Wield Enjoyers eating good
>Double attacks on Slash
>Two attacks each turn to help stack Versatility, three with Wildfire
>Immense movement gain on kill after Heroic so just jump from enemy to enemy
>Battle Trance and Crimson Rage to give extra AP if needed
>Huge momentum gain from using War Hymn after all your Slash spam
>Cheerleader team to give extra WP to boost War Hymn bonuses
>Cheerleaders give extra turns so you can reliably use Heroic first
>Resolve gain from every kill from cool skele mask
>Officer cheerleaders give two extra turns

I'm still fresh to the game but this shit feelsgoodman. Ministorum Priest Warrior Arch Militant is so goddamn tasty. Haven't even gotten the new Tax Collector companion yet but respecin' the cheerleaders to give them aoe cheerleading power with familiars looks promising.

>>713762606
> People fall to chaos not because their life sucks, but because they realize it's meaningless.
And it isn’t?

>>713772874
>Y-Yeah Pathfinder sucks they should totally go back to it haha
lol

>>713773175
The point is for humanity to build a better future for itself. Destroying chaos, xenos, those are only goals because they're getting in the fucking way. It's all about making a better tomorrow, even if you don't live to see it.

>>713773198
It's because I don't care if they fuck up Cuckfinder.

>>713773302
shut up faggot.

>>713773175
>t. chaos worshipper

>>713772906
Argenta is reserved for Idira

>>713774670
hardcore heresy detected

exterminate all involved

I thought we were getting only one archetype this DLC but the Overseer is basically four completely different classes in trenchcoat
It's a shame there's no place to use it since everything is already dying too fast, I really hope we get a roguelike mode with actual difficulty

>SRW3-Alpha1
Okay, functional and to be expected of our local cogboy
>Vengeance of Mars
Whoa there buddy, maybe chill out a little pasqal. Unless jae has some really out there names I think we found our most unique pet namer among the overseers

How are snipers doing these days? What do I even take for the 2nd archtype? MT?

>>713777158
Just pick anything except assassin and you should be fine

>>713777158
Bounty Hunter is literally sniper archetype

>>713774670
they are just frens its vigdis that idira is actually having a yuri ship with

>>713777678
Okay Copernicus, now tell me what priest is good for.

>>713780098
Flamer soldier

my sniper RT has a plasma pistol for self defence when a dude gets all up in his space

>>713761119 (OP)
Rogue Tranny DLC with a zesty nigga just in time to celebrate pride month! lets go sisters

>>713780771
>Flamer soldier

I've been playing darktide and seeing lots of arbites and it's retarded how flanderized they are now. It's all I smite my lexfoes with my lexhammer in the name of the lex! You follow the lex well, lexmate! With out lexhounds at our lexsides the lex is unstoppable! I am Le lex!
Yes we fucking get it. Shut up.

>>713769889
From humble beginnings, to the wife of a space merchant prince.

>>713781318
How the fuck can you enjoy literally anything about 40k if that bothers you? Is it somehow the only instance of this shit you noticed? How?

>>713781318
Boy you are going to love it when 40k finally turns mainstream

>>713781672
People mock space wolves for the same thing because it stands out as particularly bad writing so it's hardly the norm.

>>713781915
8e and sloptubers already brought that upon us.

Does anyone know what the flag is that lets the Rogue Trader know about Theodora collecting Eldar artefacts, so Yrliet doesn't betray you? It's what you learn only if you pick the Heretical option at the fire in the prologue and get teleported to the secret room. I wanna know for a mod

>>713782925
There is no such thing.
The only instance where Yrliet doesn't betray you is if she's not there.

What origin has the most fun interactivity? I did crime lord last time. I'm guessing the new arbiter one has a lot. I was thinking going psyker if there's interactivity with Yrliet's romance

>>713782965
That's not true, if your trader is aware of Theodora's secret then you can tell Yrliet and a redshirt crewman will betray you instead

>>713781915
that already happened during the 90s when they moved away from the original designs, lore and tone of the setting

>>713783068
Did this happen to you, or did you hear of it?

recommend me a fun character build. i did noble officer last time

>>713783108
I'm talking tidal waves of normies here, not whatever it is your thinking

>>713783240
Dual wielding warrior executioner

I don't expect anyone to know because I doubt many people bothered to try it but how does the co-op work with the DLC, I assume we both have to have it or maybe just the host?

>>713782925
Do you not learn about it when you see Yrilet examing the thing in your study? There's a check there to recognise it as something from her Craftword I thought

>>713761416
Not everyone is a no life.

What's the best way to set myself on fire? I have been doing Ignite -> Orchestrate on self at the beginning if combat but surely there's something better. I have a big flamer that can set the ground on fire but it requires a lot of STR and is unwieldy in general

>>713781915
It's kinda mainstream already, the tabletop is just too much of an investment for most people

>tfw when you need to go to the spooky ship

>>713762949
yes anon
cop are glorified state thugs of the wealthy
they dont prevent crimes
just uphold laws
and only for the people who pay their salaries

>>713788689
Remember to destroy the wall sirens first

I haven't played since the game first came out really. I got bored of the ship battles, lame class system, the forced feeling romance, and multiple loading screens to get anywhere. Is it any better now?

>>713790057
It still has those things except the forced romance which was never there at any point

>>713762356
so true, sis! we need more diversity in the ship anyway!

>>713766463
Then you know you can just spam Blood Oath in the same turn to auto generate Traumas/Injuries, right?
And double stack the bonuses with Death World

Boring class, got to 30. Still boring
Back to Ogryn pickaxe, simple as

>>713762356
>can understand Clown speak
Honestly this is the single funniest part of the whole alignment system in Rogue Trader.

Now if only I could trade in Yrliet for a harlequin actual waifu...

>>713782925
That was a folk tale people peddled during the early stages of release. It's not real, anon. Yrliet betrays you no matter what. And either way it's more fitting that she does so.

should I romance Heinrix on my full dogma glowie simp run

iconoclasts lmao how about you iconoCLASP your lips around this dick

>>713793749
Sorry my dogma friend I don't swing that way, but I respect your lifestyle and sexuality! I know a certain dark eldar guy who you might hit it off with, I can introduce you if you want.

>>713793749
Warhammer setting is so over the top and silly then you might as well break rules.

I don't get the story of the game, everything feels disconnected outside of the Void Shadows questline
>Cult of the Final Dawn, Chaos
>Drukharis out of nowhere killing literal Suns for more suffering or something
>Cult returns, Big Bird appears and dies out of nowhere in a very unclimatic event
>suddenly Necrons & Space God seed

>>713794167
>Break the rules
>Canonically Iconoclast ends with the Imperium massacring Koronus for widespread heresy
Lmao

>>713794230
They tried to go with "several plotlines happen at once" but they rushed the game so many of these plotlines end in very unclimactic ways

>>713794230
I think they likely knew this would be a lot of players introduction to the setting like it was for their pathfinder games so they tried to shove as much in as they could

>>713794437
Canonically I headcanon my own ending because post game slides don't matter, unless there is a sequel I care to play.

>>713794230
It's mostly the Inquisition and Theodora trying to take advantage of Chaos being Chaos, Drukhari infighting, Aeldari barely surviving and Necrons coming back, and the resulting chaos (as in regular chaos and not Warhammer Chaos) of all those problems happening in order to solidify their control over the Expanse
There are a lot of strings and they're all being pulled by someone who thinks they're a puppetmaster, except their success actually depends on You and even then it's likely to go horribly wrong soon after because fucking with Chaos and the C'tan is a recipe for disaster
>>713794746
Based

>>713762949
I am the IRS.

>>713794746
>buh muh headcanon
Classic cope. Your fan fiction doesn't matter. You betray the Imperium for your 'feelings', you get a bullet like you deserve. End of story.

>>713794818
>radical Inquisitor causes all of your problems
getting tired of this rerun

>>713762949
It takes tax collectors to take down the mafia...
>>713794861
You take this way too serious.

>>713794894
Maybe you aren't taking it seriously enough, anon

>>713794894
I'm tired of retards and faggots trying to pretend they can 'do better' in 40k. The entire point of it is that the Imperium is the only tbing stopping demons and aliens from wiping out humanity. Anything less than that wouldn't survive.
Someone going "Well I have my own super duper faction which is akshully separate and run way better and is friends with aliens" is the most retarded fucking take possible, because in actual 40k that faction would have been instantly wiped out either by the Imperium enforcing the law or by Chaos or aliens ripping it to shreds for its stupidity.

>>713794230
>everything feels disconnected
(You) connect everything

>It is not a persons blood that defines them but their will, and my will is thus: begone from my mind
I'm a dogmachad but I gotta say Icono gets some good lines sometimes

>>713795231
Setting and humanity would probably have been consumed by demons long ago, if setting was consistent with its lore. And how aliens and humans pointlessly fight each other when Chaos is the biggest threat is also silly.
And finally, lore is just there to sell plastic minis.
But don't let me stop you from taking it seriously, it's also a valid way to enjoy it.

>>713795231
But Imperium works with aliens all the time

>>713795372
>Setting and humanity would probably have been consumed by demons long ago, if setting was consistent with its lore
Wrong, bevause the Emperor is what holds Chaos back. He's explicitly the last line of defense against the Chaos Gods, and faith in him is the only way Humanity can be saved.
>>713795557
Only when absolutely necessary and even then they'll often (correctly) shoot the aliens as soon as their usefulness is expended.

>>713771592
when you get close to rykad minoris after one or two missions

>>713794437
>>Break the rules
You don't break the rules in the Iconoclast ending, the Imperium just sees your population is actually happy and immediately assumes you're planning to and fuck your shit up preemptively.

Unless you get Nomos, then you actually win and your protectorate gets covered in a protective "bubble" and you unironically become ruler of the happiest and most peaceful spot in the 40k universe.

>>713795870
>hen you actually win and your protectorate gets covered in a protective "bubble" and you unironically become ruler of the happiest and most peaceful spot in the 40k universe.
based

>>713795870
>Enslaving an entire sector to a C'tan
Hope you're not too attached to your soul, anon.

>>713796102
He'll just eat a star or two a few millennia from now.

>>713761119 (OP)
too busy playing arbys in dark tide

Whats a good option to pair with the eagle overseer? Considering the servo skulls have officer synergy I'm guessing I mix it with operator?

>refuse Abelard his retirement to spend more time with his family
>force him to bathe with you every day
>fashion him into a Skull servo after his death to still keep you company as you fall prey to the Halo device ever so slowly

>>713795870
>turn the entire sector into the necron equivalent of the astronomican attracting the nids
>entire sector is wiped out by imotekh in less than a millennia
>baby nomos put into the trazyn jar
good fucking job, retard

>>713799035
They can't cross the bubble.

>>713799035
>dogmakeks so butthurt about Iconochad happy ending they have to make up retarded head canon to feel superior about their own shit ending
Love to see it.

>take Yrliet into the forests
>have her help you inn the fight against the Eldar (despite you being the one to instigate she still sides with you)
>execute her right after
the best way to deal with her

>>713799257
iconofags literally let a genestealer infestation run away, how can you defend this shit

>>713799389
what kind of cope is this? that has no relation to the nomos ending, both dogmatic and icono have obvious stupid choices you should avoid.

>>713799389
I played Iconoclast and I still purged them.
But either way, a genestealer cult without it's patriarch is just a bunch of mutant losers worshipping a god that doesn't exist and will never hear them. Dumping them in a deserted world with no technology should, in theory, render them completely and utterly harmless.
(Still killed them though, you never know what might happen.)

>>713799389
All alignments have retarded options so it stands to reason iconoclast should have a few as well.

You don't have to let the genestealers go like an idiot.

>>713800375
>a few

they finally found it

Idk but having fun in Darktide

>>713800612
Do we know what the stats are yet?

>>713800612
B A S E D
A
S
E
D

I can't be the only one who thinks SoB aeshtetics aboslutely mog the shit out of Space Marines, right?

>>713799389
It's a big point boost but like the rykad minoris situation you can just do the dogmatic option and avoid being a retard and you'll still hit icono 5. You also get plenty of justification for it too, in rykad jimmi gives you pretty good logic for not being a retard, and with the genestealers given the shit they've pulled you have plenty of reason to doubt montag's promise of being "harmless"

>>713800829
>Rykad Minoris
>Kiava Gamma
>Genestealers
Is it me or do these so called iconoclasts constantly pick dogmatic options?

>>713800874
I also constantly pick iconoclast options when playing dogmatic.

Can I respec the black fella out of overseer archtype without bugging the game?
I want to use the raven on somebody else and I don't double dip archtypes, he's going to be master tactician instead.

Maybe I'll just respec him back to overseer for his personal quest

>>713800874
>constantly
lol
lmao
dogmakeks not even trying

>>713793426
You should always romance Heinrix because he's a qt patootie.
t. 6 times Heinrix smoocher

I think the heretic path would be more enjoyable if you had Uralon or whatever other Chaos companion earlier on though I understand how that wouldn't work, as of right now going heretic does not feel like you are masterminding your rise to power but you are just going around stealing candy from babies because mu ha ha. This issue gets worse in my opinion due to the fact you have to be unaligned for full heretic, I am not asking for the option to have any other God then Tzeentch as I understand the game is built around the bird but I would like the option to fully commit in that direction; For example the iconoclast ship change would work great for a Tzeentchian corruption if add distortion and magical influences everywhere rather then the EIGHT POITNED STAR WITH BODIES HANGING ON IT AND BLOOD EVERYWHERE AND CAGES FILLED WITH NAKED PEOPLE!!! For the record that is enjoyable for unaligned and the 'murderhobo' style of play that Heretic endorses but for the thinking man's heretic it is simply garish and nonsensical. Also as much as I think turning the lower decks into Nurgle cannibals it does not exactly scream forward planning especially as that is directly placing your chosen benefactor's rival right where they can hit you hard. Word Bearers are cool but I imagine my heretic path as more Thousand Sons with the 'organized library amidst an ocean of ethereal energy' aesthetic.

>>713773146
How do you deal with increasing AP costs?
>1ap for your first attack
>2ap for sweep +1(dual wield penalty) on your second attack
I guess you can use wildfire for your AoE attacks.
I wish weapon specialist worked with every 1h weapon type

>>713761119 (OP)
I'm playing it for the first time and I'm having fun. Playing a pyromancer psyker and I just enjoy setting of nukes around my enemies. Good shit.

>>713801630
*as much as I think turning the lower decks into Nurgle cannibals is funny

>>713801340
Glad to have you back, femcel

The arbites is a nigger? Well fuck that's a wasted season pass I put money down for. Never again.

I think the Arbites are cool and I dig the new femtrader Arbites portrait but I just don't care much for the new origin playstyles. I guess I could try to make a DPS out of the mace and shield one.

>>713800612
Where do you get it?

>>713801630
>>713801724
Tzeentch would probably be fine with you turning the lower decks into a Nurgle shithole simply to perpetuate the Great Game and make your ship that much more le randomly chaotic

>there is a Chaos God whose sphere of influence includes blood
>nobody questions the unaffiliated cult on your ship obsessed with killing and blood

Kind of impressive I have 90 hours logged but have never made it past act 1

>>713802850
They're affiliated with the Emperor, that's fine
What are they going to do, NOT shed blood?

>>713803059
they could try not pumping my bath full of blood

So how good is Rogue Trader? I'm picking it up on the first. I'm a very casual Warhammer fan, but I really like RPGs. Is there a lot of replayability?

I have no idea what class to play.

>>713802850
>nobody questions
Several people question that, to be fair

>>713802728
That is accurate but it still seems like a lame reason, at least to me. You could run with that and say that every Tzeentchian Daemon world has a Nurgle garden, a Khorne arena and a Slaanesh bordello just so the great game continues, it just doesn't appeal to me though I get what you are saying. I get it is all apples and oranges but I much prefer to imagine my ship being an auxiliary to a Thousand Son fleet rather then just a 'serve all' undivided rusted hull that shakes along with random cultists.

>>713803574
I wouldn't say a LOT but there is definetly replayabiliy, especially if for whatever reason (the game offers plenty) you decide to get rid of a couple of companions in the first run.
It's a LONG game so I wouldn't worry too much about that either.

What kind of class is the arbitrator supposed to be? Paladin?

What's Solomorne's tier 1 archetype?

Why does the RT not take his invincible retinue in the warp to murder the Chaos Gods once and for all? is he stupid?

>>713804015
He's a Soldier/Overseer

>>713803858
>guns and pets
what do you think

>>713804135
Sounds like a yes

>>713804083
how much profit factor is that worth

>>713804381
Turns the counter into an infinity symbol and unlocks the Argenta romance (she would totally be horny for the guy who killed the Chaos gods)

>>713804083
they aren't bound by time and space and would stop you on turn -300

>>713803574
It's great, but it's not perfect. Whether you can enjoy it depends on how much you can tolerate the imperfections
There's some pretty good replayability, things change from your playthrough order and choices
>>713803858
Arbitrator isn't a class, it's origin. And it has three different versions, shotgun focused, support focused and melee focused

>>713804596
Implying I need more than 1 turn

>>713800763
>>713802393
you can find the helmet in act 3, waiting for the name to find the stats in toybox

>>713795231
>Entire reason the Imperium doesn't win, despite being larger than every other faction combined (except maybe Tyranid), is that they are drowning in corruption, inefficiency and dogma based retardation
>"hurr durr, someone not being retarded? How unrealistic!"

>>713804669
you don't get one turn! you get negative turns! YOU ARE ALREADY DEAD

>>713804973
Cassia is GS so she started before any of them had a chance to do that and gave a free turn to me
GG

>>713763490
>>713762949
50 years in the iso-cube, no parole.

>>713773146
Interesting.
I never considerd Arch Militant for a melee build.

I couldn't be bothered with Grand Strategist since battles last two turns at most

>>713804880
The Imperium could fix their corruption (never happening), fix their inefficiency (lmao) and relax their dogma (might actually do more harm) and they still couldn't break the stalemate without resorting to
>Emperor and all his Primarchs come back
There are just too many threats from too many directions.

>>713805443
The Imperium relaxing their dogma could unironically result in less chaos cults overall, since there would be less desperate citiziens looking for a reprieve.

>>713805345
I made one on my chainsaw build a while back, with those boots that give you a free charge for every kill. Still the most fun I've ever had in this game.

>>713805414
>Create double damage zone
>use locus to get even stronegr eff
>GS cassia gather everyone there
>1 turn kill instead of 2
It's that simple

Be careful not to cross my gays

>>713762949
What are you talking about?
Did owlcat ruin them?

S-Save me, Lord Captain!

So what does Medicae Signal do? Anyone found out yet? The description cuts off after "a (Overseers Medicae/2).

>>713805678
Possibly, on one world it might relive pressure on the commoners whilst on another it gives the nobles even more of a free reign. Ultimately in my view you could keep the Holy Dogma but just feed people better then green mystery goo and chaos cults would halve which is frankly good enough.

>>713806029
It's gaze
>>713806164
It's help me

>>713805678
>>713806335
40K is not a setting you should particularly believe has any consistency.
The point of grimderp is that if you try to improve society somewhat, even on one planet, the writer comes over and says "And what they didn't know was that this would create a fifth chaos god..."
And people who make and people who consume Warhammer lore desperately cling to the contradicting ideas of
>everywhere is grimderp
>some places are happier and more fulfilled than we are today

>>713806904
>some places are happier and more fulfilled than we are today
Yeah it's a fuck huge galaxy and it's called statistics

>>713806350
I am a Navigator, not a Servigator

>>713806904
I tend to agree, owlcat has this problem especially with their ending slides.
>the setting is so grim and dark that [insert character] thought they had a happy ending but didn't
It borders on parody.

>>713806335
>whilst on another it gives the nobles even more of a free reign.
lmao the dogma already doesn't enforce jackshit on the nobles except for maintaining the bare appearances.

>>713807642
Except of course the Inquisitors, any passing Space Marines, any deployed Sisters or even a Patton-esque Imperial Guard Commander who are all ready to execute the most richest and powerful noble who happens to be a heretic. Of course alot of worlds are unenforced but that is a failing of the inefficiency of the Empire not it's Dogma.

>Use every bit of cheese I can manage to beat the dumb bridge battle and the spaceship fight right out of the gate
>see this

I refuse to back down on seeing if this guy has any interactions on Janus.

>>713808427
>24
lmao, they genuinely didn't expect people would rush to him didn't they?

>>713808427
Huh, I'm noticing a couple of companions are missing...

>>713808886
It only shows the people you brought to the map and Solomorne since you are swapping one of them out for him. I did shoot Idira in the head though, when I do my Heretic Arbite run I'll make her an Overseer and let her melt Argenta's brain.

>>713803574
It's not bad, it's something far worse. It's fucking boring. I have no idea how they managed to make the story of being a space borderprince/mafiaso/jewmerchant boring, but by god they succeeded. Characters are boring and uninteresting assuming you've read a single piece of media that covered 40k before. Character building takes the worst parts of GURPs, Classes Feat based systems and somehow makes it worse. Combat is serviceable at first, but then you'll notice it's the same exact combat every time.

>>713810335
t. seething cuckfinder fag

What exactly are enemy Blast attacks?
What type is the Drukhari ships multi hitting one?
Because that's by far the most ridiculous one for damage

>>713810490
I really really hate that Ai means you can't tell if somebody saying something retarded is a bot, or actually mental ill. It's the same company you double faggot, if i liked pathfinder i'd be saying nice things..

>>713810672
>It's the same company you double faggot
Plenty of PFtards hate this game

>passive bonuses from weapons apply now regardless of active slot
Guess it's time for dual staff maxxing

>>713810335
I find it endlessly entertaining

>>713810837
Does that mean I don't have to autistically switch wepaons with Cassia every turn?

Have any of you ever used the more party slots mod? If so how does it interact with cumrag?

One would think that after I pretended to be another guy at a funeral and walked into an incinerator just to see where it was leading to, Argenta would have understood that my motives are esoteric and unscrutable.
Such is the will of the Emperor, I guess

>>713810891
For the stat bonuses no, but for stuff like Infusing etc yes
For some reason Castigating still applies a -1 now if on the other hand

>>713810861
What happens if you name your character Fidelio, probably nothing but at least the text would be amusing

>>713810978
I use the Toybox that enables all companions to react to dialogue regardless if they are there, but I plan to disable it on cumrag for consistency

Are you talking about the same mod or about one that actually let's you bring them all?

>>713810770
PFtroons hate Owlcat is done with PF

>>713811092
It's a mod that does exactly what it says, it adds more party slots instead of 6, 8 by default but you can increase it if you want. I want to use it so I can bring Solomorne to cumrag without kicking someone out but I have no idea if it'll break the game or not

am I losing much if I just play the base game with 0 dlc?

>>713811363
Yes, this isn't Pathfidner, the DLCs both add content to the main story and the first one at least is arguably the best storyline in the game, idk about the second one because I haven't seen it, but it's apparently worse and shorter, but still, it's integrated to the story

I imagine someone doing a blind playtrough who put that name would be very confused

>>713811363
Around 25 hours of content, 2 companions, and 3 classes.

You'll still enjoy it, I enjoyed it at launch, but you might consider pirating the DLCs since they are already out

>>713810770
>plenty
Three shitposters is not "plenty".

>>713811471
Meant for >>713811026

>>713810837
Uh bro? Your +1AP per 50% Wounds?

If there's a Low Gothic, is there also a High Gothic?

>>713811363
It might be interesting to do a clean first run and then do a second with DLC installed, because they do change quite a few things around both on the ship as well as certain story points.

>>713811738
Yeah but they're all backed 24/7.

>>713811738
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/High_Gothic

>>713811738
yes, its what they spoke/wrote when Emps was still around
like ye olde english

>>713811659
It's sitting right next to my trusty Invigorating Resolve to let it be spammed multiple times during Finest Hour
but truth be told you could always swap into that sword then back to whatever else you want
It's only passive stat bonuses that seem to add up now

I've really enjoyed playing Darktide, but there should be more enemy variety. Aliens and other chaos god influences.

>>713761119 (OP)
40k went from being nerdy and autistic but cool to unbearably fucking lame at some point and I'm not sure when or why it happened

>>713812087
It happened because isn't Warhammer literally the last bastion of "icky" tabletop games/RPGs with le fascist authoritarian etc tones?

>>713811738
Low Gothic = Whatever language you're using (english in this case).
High Gothic = Latin.

Is dual wielding shtoguns viable or just a meme build?

>>713812390
Its good

>>713812390
It's viable and quite powerful capable of high damage even early, and Shotguns now cost only 1 AP for the area attack + also knocks enemies back which means they take both the shot damage + collision damage
As a matter of fact it's the only truly good thing about the Arbites background
Protip: go Soldier > Master Tact

>>713812087
When they turned everything into centerpieces. It started with Grey Knights and Tau getting their supersized walkers but really fell apart with one man army shit like Primarchs.

>>713812550
Bingo.
Shit became less and less about /yourdudes/.

did they bring seize the intiative back?

>>713813001
It's always been there, just nerfed to provide extra damage instead of acting first a long time ago

>>713812537
Why do you recommend master tactician if I can ask?

>>713813454
>huge Momentum gains through Nerves of Steel
>easy +396% damage on demand for every single target inside the Shotgun area
>more big damage and Resolve gains through Inspire & Linchpin + Fervor abilities
>never runs out great talents to pick, including stacking extra critical damage, easier access to resources etc.

>>713813708
Thank you. I haven't really gotten far in the game yet and was initially looking at arch militant but all of that sounds like it'd be a solid build, thank you.

>he doesn't give his rouge trader a proper flamboyant extensive name
obi-wan sherlock clousseau is the bare minimum

sex with fake Aurora

>>713813454
Not him, but I'm pretty sure that's the only archetype that works for that play style
Everything else gives nothing for the two shotguns
I don't think we have automatic shotguns and kicking things with two attacks just doesn't work

>>713813852
You're welcome.
The MT Heroic should also let you get another free area shotgun attack and can be used multiple times per combat through an upgrade
MT also has a vastly easier time generating its main resource since it's increased by merely killing enemies with allies or yourself, and Fervor supercharges it instantly = has great synergy with extra turn spamming through Missionary Oath on a Grand Strategist Pasqal/Officers etc.
Soldier Concentrated Fire % bonuses also stacks wonderfully with MT's Inspire & Press the Advantage
To put it simply MT just doesn't get more damage than AM but also supports the party even better, by merely just existing with Nerves of Steel for example which DOES stack per MT ally with it

>Been pronouncing Arbites a Arr-bites for god knows how long
>Characters in game ass Arr-bit-ees
What the FUCK

>>713815008
Nice, that explains a good amount I think. I'm still learning the system. Have a good day anon.

>play crime lord
>meet Solomorne in act 1
>expect reactivity of my character knowing them because they're literally cops
>absolutely nothing
Oh no...

>>713815483
Why would some crime lord know every single Arbites they meet?

>>713815556
It's the other way around you massive retard.

>>713815556
Know the organization, the adeptus arbites

>>713815673
Is English your second language?

>>713815268
this dlc is exposing latinlets

>>713815750
Ironic

>>713812289
im pretty sure high gothic is just shakespearean english
https://youtu.be/czfopZHbZ9c?t=2

>>713762359
>>713762302
Jacob was shit but at least he wasnt a cock smoking faggot like Solomorne

>>713815268
Not even geedubs knows how it is pronounced

>>713816007
If I know this shithole he'll literally never try any gay shit with you, just like Ulbrig

>>713762356
>lets a gene stealer cult go free
Yeah, no. The best is a combo of Dogmatic with a splash of Iconoclast.

Are Men of Iron and Men of Gold the same things or difference things?

>>713761119 (OP)
I used the op pic as my dudes portrait and named him Dredd
Im enjoying it

>>713815483
Why are you lying on the internet?

>>713816143
apparently not remotely similar to men of iron

>>713816263
I don't remember that being there, now I'm disappointed I didn't pick it

>>713816389
It was definitely there, it's just not labelled just like all the reactivity in RT

>>713816389
He doesn't say anything special, he basically just says "you're a rogue trader now so i'll leave you alone" which is exactly what I was expecting, he's not even mad about it

>>713812390
soldier > arch militant. rn i am doing dual wielding shotgun + shield, the shield attack is always 0 ap, and it overrides the +1 ap from dual wielding. it also sets up the 1 ap double slug attack. probably switching to dual shotgun once i hit the exemplar extra action point. just make sure to get reckless rush and all out to be able to always reach everyone on the map for point blank shots

>>713761119 (OP)
Just uninstalled the game. Psyker class too boring

>>713816263
Cool I was wondering if he commented on crime lords.

>>713816661
You can't dual wield and use a shield
Shield automatically takes up a slot in both sets of weapons

>>713816696
>strongest class in the game is too boring

>>713816867
there's a talent that removes that limitation

>>713816778

>>713816867

>>713816389
If you're not using Toybox to highlight what lines are reactive the game will not tell you, so lines that seem normal are actually reactive and wouldn't be there on another character.

>>713816867
there is a talant that removes the limitation, and that is only relevant once you set up one set with shotgun + shield and another set with 2 shotguns

>>713817089
talent*

>officer can ignore cover and dodge
>soldier can shoot and scoot and shoot some more
>operative can effectively ignore cover and dodge and scale up
cooked for choice on the shotgunpill lads

>>713816263
+ lmao

>>713817243
Officer is out of the question, he has too much focus on support.
Operative also has too much focus on abilities and has poor action point economy, he is more about hitting rarely but big than shooting with two hands.
Soldier is a simple and obvious choice.

Lorelet here, how exactly does Chaos claim a soul? If you have no contact with the warp your whole life and you die, can your soul still be snatched up by chaos?

>>713817575
im having issues with soldier early/mid where im relying heavily on a mix of AGI to go ASAP and BS to hit shit in the open, leaving little investment in PER
at least with operative's PER bonuses i feel like you can
>increase your chances to hit
>proc exploits for damage
>utilize cover efficiency buffs
and negate enemy dodge

>>713817962
you are running in with a shotgun to blast people, you need agi for demolition which increases your damage with the shotgun since it's an area attack

>pets are auto named
boooo

>>713819024
Not yours

>>713818512
i thought that comes from a trait, and one thats way later, but until then AoE attacks work off of INT dont they?

>>713819329
Abelard and Argenta already came named.

>>713819383
Yes, but you can name your pet of that or mercs

>>713819336
Demolition engineer can be taken as early as level 4

>>713819489
oh ok then i stand corrected
the big issue was i took it on ulfar so i guess i didnt even recognize it until later

>>713815268
it's supposed to be arr-buy-tees
it's supposed to be mon-kai
and necron pariahs are real

>>713817886
(Almost) everything with a soul is in contact with the warp, after you die you always end up there unless you bind your soul to physical things like Eldar.
Getting claimed by Chaos is mostly a matter of catching their attention, like trying to talk to them, getting snitched on by some fuck trying to talk to them or your soul shining too bright in the warp.

>>713817886
Well if your soul is weak it disintegrates in the warp. If you are a psyker, your soul is intact but gets eaten by demons

DogmaCHADS do what is necessary. The 40K universe is not only a Dark Forest, but constantly hostile due to the looming threat of Chaos. You may not like it, but without the dogmatic creed, humanity would have gone extinct a long time ago.

>use death from above
>it does the animation and jumps, but deals no damage
>FULL MOMENTUM
>use death waltz
>it doesn't even work, momentum bar wasted
Owlcat... this was a bug when Void Shadows first came out....

>>713821472
>DogmaCHADS do what is necessary
A lot of actions of the Imperium are unnecessary. They just happen because no one bother to change them

Chaplain > Hieronymus

>>713821472
MM corpse starch, mmm yes turn that baby into a cherub

>>713823358
In absolutely no way
Hieronymous is a pretty swell guy

Give me Eldar and hive world ganger wars.

>Audora dead on the first turn
>on unfair
I think I'm starting to regret picking pyro blade dancer executioner if the game is going to be this easy

>>713805093

>>713824041
The entire games combat is a joke mid Act 2 at the latest, it's one of the worst parts about the game, since there's no real challenge or tactics and it kills replayability since there's nothing fun about smashing through the same fights all over again.

>>713824226
Stop playing in normal

>>713824226
I disagree, the fact that the game is so easy to break is what makes it so fun

>>713824226
Pathfinder was the exact same thing, here's hoping fourth time is the charm with DH

>>713824226
Have you tried not making the same 3 overpowered builds every time?

>>713802081
Glad to be back. Retard who thought it was a good idea to reelase the game on tuesday needs to be flogged

Total Jimmy Love Times 7 LET'S FUCKING GO!!! It's been too long

>>713824429
We are specifically talking about Unfair.
>>713824472
I am not interested in playing Cookie Clicker.
>>713824549
Doubtful, Owlcat have shown they cannot build decent combat encounters to save their lives. The fact they cannot build a decent difficulty curve into their games is also a real mark against them.

>>713825257
lmao nerd

>>713825072
You're joking right? The game falls apart if you just have half-decent understanding of the classes in it, Pyro-Soldier or Officer or whatever are not necessary to make the games combat trivial, they just expedite the inevitable. Owlcat designed the game in such a way that when you combine half-intelligent character building with the itemization they've provided, your party massively outscales the enemies in the game. The only semi-interesting combats in the game on Unfair are ironically the super early fights, like that Anvers gang on Footfall with the flamers and the guy with the Thunder Hammer, which proves to be a far more challenging and interesting fight than late game Necrons, which is just bad game design. Late game fights shouldn't be more trivial than early game side encounters.

>>713761697
>4mb for 0:10 seconds
that water is brutal

>>713825257
>Owlcat's hardest dofficulty is too easy!
>Cites Larian encounter design
The absolute fucking state

Where in the fuck are all the shields?
30 hours in and I haven't found a single one

Pasqal...

>>713825841
I have found one (1) shield, so far in early act 2
I think I bought it? I am not sure, I don't remember

>>713825841
You can find 1 in act 1, and anothe one early in act 2. Maybe you're not exploring properly

>>713825952
>You can find 1 in act 1
Where

>>713825996
When you're evacuating from Rykad. Somewhere in cosmoport

>>713825757
Larians encounter design is 100% better than Owlcats, it's not even close. Look at the Goblin Camp fight, for example.

I can charge into the whole camp and take them all on at once if I want. I can walk up to the top of the camp and kill everyone up there, then start using ranged fire on the ones below forcing them to run up at me for a tactical advantage. Or I can poison their ale through dialogue checks and kill seven of them before combat even starts. Or I can go to the back of the camp where the goblin kids are, kill them and lure the rest in through the chokepoint creating a killzone, especially if I drop fog on my area so they're forced to run into melee. Or I could do the sneaky approach and kill them in stealth a little at a time. And so on.

I can do ANY of these things, and which one I take depends on how I like to play these games, or even what type of character I am playing and how I want them to approach combat. If I'm playing a dumb Berserker maybe I do just charge in from the front, if I'm a canny Ranger maybe I do the rooftop strat, the point is, I have OPTIONS, and that is what makes Larian encounter design so good. Whereas in an Owlcat game I walk forward and start combat with genuinely no option to approach it differently in any way shape or form. That is BAD DESIGN. And so we're clear, I don't care about consolewarfaggotry, I play all CRPGs, and the good stuff from each should be copied by the others. Owlcat should take notes from how Larian builds encounters so that their next game will be better. And Larian should fire their entire writing staff. A man can dream, anyway.

>>713825873
Love this nigga like you couldn't believe

>>713826130
We were discussing difficulty
Larian's games are generally easier

>>713825873
We love Pasqal

>>713826130
That's not level design per se. It's encoutner design. But good level design is part of encounter design too, and larian is good at both

Does full heretic route have actual content or is it dogshit murderhobo like 99% of crpgs?

>>713826238
Part of what makes Owlcat games combat so bad is the fact that their encounter design puts the difficulty of the game in a binary state, you either built your characters well and itemized correctly, in which case the whole game becomes an autobattler, or you didn't, in which case you get rolled by statchecks. If they could actually start doing decent encounter design it would greatly help their ability to build a good and enjoyable combat system.

>>713825873
>it downright stinks
this line felt out of character for Pasqy

>>713826487
Yes, it's dogshit murder plus you being chaotic retarded

>>713826487
It's one of the worst evil paths in all of CRPG history, unfinished garbage, actually removes content from the game, makes you and everyone around you a colossal retard, and you are nothing but a bootlicker to a Chaos Daemon and do not in any way feel like a powerful overlord tempted into Chaos at any point in the run. It is absolute trash and I cannot recommend it even if you've already done a Dogmatic and Iconoclast playthrough.

I bricked my idira, do NOT respect her from one overseer pet to another, it breaks all fights if you got her in your party

>>713826669
>>713826705
bravo owlcat

>>713826705
The joke's on the Ruinous Powers and mankind, my Rogue Trader's plan is to attain unparalleled power by going against dogma and to master channeling the powers of Chaos - in order to, in the end, use it against Chaos and the xenos to truly free mankind.

... Or at least that's the narrative and they're going to fail miserably in a tragic ending but they're going to try.

>>713827312
That would be cool but it doesn't work like that in the game. Hereticus assumes you're a malicious retard from the get go.

>>713826487
both. The evil path in Wrath of the Righteous was way better. But it couldn't ever have been good, really, because being chaotic evil in the Warhammer setting is absolutely fucking retarded no matter how ya look at it. I mean, why? You're not going to accomplish anything and when you die, it's gonna be worse than it would've been otherwise. Chaosfags are absolute retards.

>>713827312
That's how it should have been, but not how it is. Hopefully in Dark Heresy

>>713827595
You become a daemon prince

>>713827685
do you think it feels good or makes you happy to be a demon prince

>>713827595
The whole point of falling to Chaos is you get tempted into it or tricked into it. If they had actually written it that way in RT it could've been interesting, but instead it's "MUAHAHAHAH I AM EVIL AND DO EVIL THINGS" garbage. There is no slow fall to heresy and corruption, you're just a fucking retard devoting yourself to Chaos for no real reason whatsoever.

>>713827743
I guess so, you wouldn't have fallen to chaos if you didn't want something like that, no?

>>713825873
Who would have thought this nigga would be willing to sacrifice himself so tht you and yours would live. This is from a random banter btw, and due to how retardedly it works in RT most people will never see it, despite the fact that it adds characterization

>>713827681
They flat out just went with a two axis system in Dark Heresy, if anything it seems they threw their hands up and gave up altogether on writing decent Heretical content.

so idira's always gonna want to be an overseer now right?

>>713827312
>attain unparalleled power by going against dogma and to master channeling the powers of Chaos - in order to, in the end, use it against Chaos and the xenos to truly free mankind
Hey Xanthus
How's the pyre looking

I finally got my shield and now I'm all dripped out

>>713827849
Where did you find out about this?

>>713827815
a fucking caveman could see the tricks of chaos and not fall for them. it's easy to see that for every fleeting pleasure it offers, it puts ten times as many punishments on you. and even if you're into that, don't worry, it'll find something that you don't like.

fuck chaos.

>>713827849
We will see, you can have a heretical path binded to key choices instead of a shabby alignment system

Idira with a psy-raven actually really cool, area buffing is so good

>>713827765
What if you headcanon that your RT has memories of other timelines (i.e. a previous playthrough) and thus realizes that this universe is doomed and pointless and thus goes all in on Chaos, accepting all the sacrifices along the way if it means possibly finding an alternate way to save humanity? A wild stretch yes, but maybe it could work

>>713827849
Heresy should not be its own axis. If anything they're doing it right in DH. Both being too puritan or too radical should lead to heresy. Just like it should have been in RT if they weren't retards
>>713828034
Some interview

>>713823993
jesus this animation fucking sucks

is this REALLY what warhammer+ shills pay for?

>>713828093
It's bullshit that other psykers can't use her raven to spread out buffs too. Guess it would have been TOO powerful. But I am absolutely not making Jimmy one. He's an executioner and that's that. Having 4 overseers is already too many

>>713828273
Some of the stories are nice
But yeah it's all done on a shoestring budget

>>713823993
>don't wear a helmet
>get blasted in the eyes and have your head sliced in half
lmao retard

I'm assuming its impossible to successfully romance Yrilet and Cassia on a Heretical run?

>>713828310
>4 overseers
MC, Idira, Copman and?

>>713828402
>one of the biggest UK companies
>record profits year on year
>cant make good side content that it makes people pay for
remember the "warhammer vault" that hasnt seen an update in what, 2 years?
and all the books it does have have all the rules excluded from them for quite literally no fucking reason other than "we dont want you easily playing older editions"
actual piracy is preserving those books more than GW

>party gathered on the bridge below the throne
>my RT walks down to talk to them
>Kibbles stands off to stand mutilating herself and getting blood on everyone else
every single time

>>713828506
Pasqal

>>713828454
>Yrilet romance
what? You mean holding hands with her one time? There's no romance there.

Such bullshit that Argenta can't be seduced, even though it's possible to make her so loyal to you that she betrays the Imperium itself to protect you.

>>713828681
>that she betrays the Imperium itself to protect you
Stepping down from her position isn't betraying the imperium. She doesn't even protect you, nor was she asked to kill you, just to denounce you

>>713828624
>Walk around the bride
>Hear a comically loud "SPLAT"
>It's kibbles mutilating herself
Why is she like this

>>713828903
Please be patient, she has autism.

>>713828856
She literally lies to the Inquisition on your behalf, and not at your request. She just does it.

>>713828123
Nah you're a gibbering retard on the Heretical path in RT, even the mightiest head canon isn't going to save it.

>>713828454
Cassia - yes
Yrliet - not a romance, but no

violent sex with Yrliet while the farseers are forced to watch

>>713828903
At least you can tell her to stop with that shit.

>>713828454
Cassia doesn't have any reactivity if you play heretical, nobody does besides (take a wild guess) Kibellah
Well, and Marazhai gets a new ending, but his romance remains the same

Okay, so I am in the part where The heretic rogue trader and the filthy xeno demand you to pick side. and Yrliet begs you to side with the filthy xenos saying she'll leave you and I have never been in this position before in my life.

On one side I can't side with xenos against my fellow men, but on the other side he'sa filthy Khorne worshiper.

So Yrliet is the one tipping the scale on favor of filthy xenos. Can I just kill everyone and keep Yrliet?

Damn, Live Bait is such a good skill. Works great with Vanguard

What's a good MC build to go with? I'm 100% taking the 2 DLC companions with me, the other slots I'm not sure but probably something like Argenta + Jimmy + Cassia? I feel like something shooty would be good but I'm not sure

who was right here

>>713828624
I assume you gave Pasqal Servo Skull Swarm? I don't really like overlapping familiars and my RT already got it for Officer skill spreading. Does Eagle work for him?

jimmy's growing on me a lot, he's very cool, has a nice voice, and articulates well

>>713829362
>having Yrliet alive to begin with
Sparing the eldar and telling Calligos to chill and leave is the good ending where you save him from chaos

>>713829362
It's a lose-lose situation. On one hand, Winterscale is a chaotic retard, on the other hand, xenos filth.

I had my fun there's no possible way to re-create that enjoyment with a minor DLC installment.

>>713829476
damn bros the femcel life claims another one

>>713829441
>Leldar blabbing about pride
O i am laffin

>>713829559
Yeah that's what I'm saying. I even told them to kill each other but they are all demanding my help like a clingy girlfriend. I don't want to help either of them.

>>713829476
He comes with a lifetime supply of spaghetti too

>Expand dialogue to include remote companions

Do you guys enable this? I kind of want to, can headcanon it as them listening in through vox or some shit and communicating that way

>>713829670
It's a badly designed quest that railroads you into being an absolute retard no matter what you do. So pick your poison and then pretend the quest doesn't exist

>>713829556
>Sparing the eldar and telling Calligos to chill and leave
You can do this? How? I must have missed a dialog option because all I can do is murder one side.

>>713829797
Yes. There is no logical reason for why your team can only consist of 6 people

>>713829441
Argenta, of course, Yrliet is a fucking retard and anything she says can be dismissed out of hand.

>>713829897
pretty sure it's an iconoclast only thing

>>713829897
If you helped the Eldar the whole way through the game (sparing them on Janus, helping the Farseer escape Commoragh) you can work with them. Also you can get Winterscale to realize his second in command is a Bloodthirster and save him from Chaos if you picked up on certain things during your time on Quetza (like finding the body of his Seneschal) and passing some skill checks in his dialogues in the camp.

>>713829842
It's not badly designed. It was designed to put you into a shitty situation. That's good design if you ask me.

>>713830070
Hold on, maybe I have to pick Calligos side and then I'll have to choice to spare the Eldar. I haven't picked his side yet.

>>713830070
No, it isn't, I've spared them all when I'm max Dogmatic and the only one who gets fucked is Winterscale when the Bloodthirster breaks his back.

>>713830171
Looks like the kind of obscure solution I love-hate. Fuck it, I'll replay the whole game. The new dlc is a good excuse.

>>713830171
>If you helped the Eldar the whole way through the game (sparing them on Janus, helping the Farseer escape Commoragh)
That is not necesary. You can avoid the slaughter on quetza regardless. I always kill retards on janus because that's what they deserve
>>713830173
>find all the clues that winterscale's not right in the head
>Can outrigh call him out on ti
>hey calligos, are you being corrupted by chaos by any chance? Nah, dawg, I'm not
>well designed
shut the fuck up, retard

>>713829734
sex with femTrader

I don't know how to build Jimi Hendrix

>>713830584
Me too. My IQ is not high enough to navite all these skills. Just follow a guide like I do.

>>713830519
Don't listen to that retard. That quest has no connection to your previous treatment of leldar in the game

>>713830542
I bet you like videos about men.

>>713830657
So what do I have to do, then? I'm a sucker for good endings where everyone is happy.

>>713829797
It makes sense. Why would a Rogue Trader keep only 5 people around when they have so many badasses ready and willing to participate? The only reason I don't use that is because it would make the fights too easy, if you had 12 instead of 6.

>>713830584
he's a psyker, so pick psyker skills, buff up, then go to town with his warrior heroic. Or build him as full buffslut/healslut. Then pick overseer, spread the buffs among your party in a single round, then go to town with his warrior heroic

>>713829797
>Do you guys enable this?
Nah. I strategically choose who I take on certain quests for a reason.

My last save before DLC was I think when I was in the capital. Am I clear to continue that save or will I miss Judge Dredd?

>>713830769
It all depends on whether or not you got Winterscale to calm down and at least somewhat realize he's being played during your dialogues with him in the camp. If you did that you can avoid the fight with the Eldar.

>>713829797
You might as well enable it if you aren't planning on doing multiple playthroughs of the game. Keep in mind ticking that option still doesn't give you their full dialogue and options, Abelard for example can only introduce you if he's actually fully in the party, same for Idira and her visions, etc.

>>713830769
Tell him to not kill the eldar and to go back to the village.
Dunno why you'd want to not kill absolute imbeciles that slaughtered an entire human planet and still failed to achieve their goal, but whatever. An iconotard mind is impossible to comprehend

I beat the game before this DLC dropped so I dont see a point until whatever next happens

>>713762356
>Dogmachads
>I don't like you, die! [attack]
>Chaoschads
>I don't like you, die! [attack]
>iconocucks
>uh ummmm excuse me sir, may I please have the honor of giving you all my money? and perhaps you might allow me a suckle of your cock, good sir?

>>713831195
>it took the dogmakek over half a day to come up with these shambles of a reply

>>713831074
Isn't avoiding the fight the only way you can stop Winterscale from getting corrupted?

>>713829564
What's the +5202 coming from?

>>713830925
Overseer jimmy is insanely strong. Being able to cast warp speed on your entire party so easily is just game breaking. Just get a grand strategist to give him a turn at the start to buff the shit out of everyone.

>>713831324
I don't like you, die!

>>713830173
>good design
>can't kill eldar after sending winterscale back and getting the info you need for no reason whatsoever
>their info wasn't even nesessary for finding the lair, making the whole situation utterly idiotic, since it's literally none of your fucking business and there should have been an option to not get involved at all
>can't force confrontation with an obviously corrupt winterscale for no reason whatsoever if you kill eldar despite there even being an option to call him out, so your balls to the wall dogmatic looks like a fucking chump (doubly funny if you have Argenta in your party who has kiled theodora for less)
This quest encompases everything that was wrong with act 4 and the game in general, but I hope the owlkek cock tastes good at least since you seem to be enjoying the sucking

>gave my Officer the Stand Witness talent for Resolve Psyker shenanigans
>got to Overseer and realize it's literally a dead talent now since you can spread everything and include yourself easily
Not gonna lie, a bit miffed.

>>713825257
>left
Gimmicky bullshit.
>right
Fun as fuck.

Based Owlcat.

>>713831443
Yes, and it's fucking retarded

>>713831195
>Iconoclast
>You hurt my people! I don't like you die! [attack]

>>713831472
Grand startegist can only give him 3 action points though, that is not nearly enough to cast everything, since the discount on biomancy spells in the first round doesn't work during extra turns, so I feel like GS doesn't really fit into the equasion here. It helps, sure, but ultimately you'd still have to wait for his turn propper

>>713830943
I met him there clearing the streets.

>Dogmacuck
>NOT SUCKING THE EMPEROR'S COCK IS A SIN HERETIC

>Chaoscuck
>SUCKING THE EMPEROR'S COCK IS A SIN AND SLAANESH LOVES IT WHEN I SIN

>Iconocuck
>have you tried asking for the Emperor's permission before sucking his cock first? Isn't he HIV positive? I'm not sucking it if he's not pozzed

>>713831074
>iconotard mind is impossible to comprehend
Well, killing the Eldar won't bring anyone back, but maybe changing his mind on humanity will save countless human lives in the future.

Iconochad mind works like this.

>>713831641
>gets angry
>starts thinking about sucking dick
Why make it so obvious

>new DLC
>suddenly loads of literally who youtubers reviewing the game
>they all admit not knowing shit about the setting
>all their video footage shows their skills in the default order
Guess Owlcat now finally has enough money for paid reviews.

>>713832161
Iconoclast makes sense sometimes. When it's about going against the various corrupt authorities of the Imperium. But if you ever turn against the Emperor himself then you're a god forsaken fool with nothing good ahead of you.

>>713832161
Let's be honest, the only reason anyone bothers with these fucks is metagaming to prevent the ending slides from fucking over your colonies.

>>713832305
Bitch please. Humanity has killed more humans than anyone in the universe. Also, The Emperor gave me a permit to do whatever I want signed by him, so all I do it's with his consent.

>>713832161
Iconokek mind doesn't work like this, because you're using metaknowledge for reasoning. And the message you're sending is that you're weak and will allow anything to be done to you and your people and won't even have the balls to retaliate. And that is the one absoltue worst message one can send when it comes to geopolitics

>>713832416
Remember better days. The Imperium didn't get this way by accident, it was necessary. Blind adherence to doctrine might seem absurd at first, but what happens when those silly rules are broken? Everyone gets sucked into hell and suffers forever.

>>713761119 (OP)
How fun is this game going in blind? It looks interesting, but I only have like surface-level understanding of crpgs and Warhammer.

>>713832469
>because you're using metaknowledge for reasoning
What metaknowledge am I using here?

>>713832416
I can do what I want on my planet. But you try messing with it you can bet there's gonna be fire and brimstone coming your way

>>713832508
It's great if you're smart enough to understand a complex leveling system but not smart or autistic enough to care too much about it. Fun game, excellent combat scenarios, though some repeatable ones get old.

>>713832640
>>713832469
It's not even your planet. It's Calligos' planet.

>>713832508
I went in blind as someone who was new to 40K and ended up falling in love

>>713761119 (OP)
>spend 3 years updating your game
>release paid DLC that was supposed to be a regular update
fuck fatshark, I hate these hacks so much now.

>>713832716
Sure, but you already got involved. And besides eldar have their heads so far up their own ass that they wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway. Arr monke rook same

>>713821472
Chaos was born because of dogmatic cunts.

>>713832978
those stupid fucks literally created a chaos god because their lives were too nice and easy

>>713832503
You know, if the Emperor and his message led us to where we are (in the 40k universe), maybe they weren't so good after all? I mean, for all the worship The Emperor gets, he lost, and now is incapasitaded for all eternity in his golden toilet.

I wish this game had more nonwhite people

>>713832794
That was void shadows

>>713833025
Lmao, no it wasn't. Chaos was born when the emperor didn't even exist yet

>>713833025
Nope.
3 of the chaos gods we don't know exactly where they came from, but one of them was born not of suffering but its opposite.

>>713833187
If Idira and Jae and Yrliet didn't exist this game truly would've been perfect, cast wise.

>>713832978
Eldars aren't irrational animals either. I am sure with enough diplomacy we can reach mutual agreement and prosperity.

>>713832065
>he doesn't rush for Spirit Drape talisman from Janus 3rd Colony Event meaning Forewarning, Prescience, Iron Arm, Enfeeble all cost 0 AP even on the first Extra Turn, and Warp Speed only 1
>he doesn't have Pasqal as Grand Strat with Missionary Oath to instantly have Heinrix act and fully buff the whole party with but a single AP at the start of battle
>he then doesn't also get HIGH MOMENTUM instantly from that +Witch Collector passive from Dargonus 3rd Colony Event
>it can even provide you with free AP from Sacred Rituals for offensive options too if you get lucky
>all before Heinrix ever got his first turn
Strange Vitality is what's shit outside of Act 1

>>713833186
The Emperor's only mistake was putting too much faith into his sons, and humanity has suffered constantly since then. But it's not over. It might be heresy to say, but the Emperor has died before, and he always comes back. The Golden Throne that keeps him barely alive is the worst mistake. If we just granted him death, eventually he would come back in full power and deal with all this bullshit. Instead, that corpse throne keeps him just barely ahead of death, constant suffering, and we're all paying the price.

>>713833438
>No Marazhai
Faggot

>>713833438
Nigger I didn't just caught you talking shit to my girl Idira. She has carried me the whole game. She's one of the good ones.

>>713761119 (OP)
I assume he's incompatible with a heretic run eh?

>>713833461
Maybe with exodites cause the other eldar factions constantly prove they aren't worthy of trust.

>>713833479
>>he doesn't rush for Spirit Drape
I don't rush any rewards at all because I make decisions based on roleplay, not rewards. The rest fo your post I didn't even read

>>713833485
We The Empire got cornered in a check mate position. Taking The Emperor from the throne would kill about 90% of all humanity by losing warp travel.

>>713833525
Marazhai was actually written well, he's everything a Dark Eldar should be.

>>713833438
>Idira
Opinion discarded

>>713833627
...and Spirit Drape is literally Heinrix's own reward suggestion on a post about Heinrix
Let me guess, you're also the autismo who refuses to use Cassia's Nav powers

>>713833686
Explain how Idira and Jae are badly written

>>713833629
A worthy sacrifice.

>>713833686
>he's everything a Dark Eldar should be.
That's what makes him as boring as Argenta. I don't care if the character is well written or not. i just want them to be fun to have around

what the fuck is this Cinder fight? you have no room to place your party in good positions and this fucker zooms around two shotting everyone

>>713833736
If I've never had it it means his suggestions was shit, simple as

>>713833617
Then we kill all the untrustworthy Eldar!

>>713833749
Death on that scale would probably birth a new chaos god.

>>713833801
If everyone in your party is a super duper unique snowflake it wouldn't even feel like the right setting.

The problem with Marazhai is that i can't justify not killing him.

>>713833876
The hardest fight in the game unironically. Only act 3 boss is maybe harder

>>713833876
i don't know what has happened in this run, but almost my entire party is playing dead last on daring, on all act 2 encounters so far. the trick is just to pull everyone back if you lose initiative and force the enemy to waste their turn approaching. and i mean WAY BACK as around the corner from the cinder fight

>>713834024
>>713833801
Don't you guys like having evil party members while being the nicest boy scout in the universe? It's like having Morgana in Dragon Age Origins and making her mad with every decision that you make.

>>713833617
Aren't they just tribals that don't even have any communicaation with each other, so they're not a unified faction? They would be pretty useless as far as alliances go

>>713834026
Hardest is the snake guy on Unfair in Act 3 when you only have Argenta/Yrliet and no gear, pretty much impossible if you didn't go with Abelard, as just Argenta and Yrliet means incoming death, at least gearless Abe with Vanguard talents can tank until the reinforcements arrive
Aurora used to be hard due to some RNG as he always gets first turn and can burst down 2-3 characters instantly but nowadays you can cheese lv16 right before him by squeezing every single source of XP in Act 1 including Void Shadows content

>>713830831
It only enables the dialogue, they don't appear in fights
>>713829797
Yes, at first I felt guilty about it but honestly it feels nice to have the opinions of my whole retinue around and it makes sense I would bring all of them

>>713834010
>Death on that scale would probably birth a new chaos god.
Yes, the Emperor himself. A god in both realspace and the chaos realm. Remember, he doesn't fear them at all, he once tore all 4 of them from the mortal realm as he was missing most of his body and under hardcore psychic assault, they hit him with everything they had while he was at his weakest and it still wasn't enough.

>>713834291
>He mindrapes Aberlard to make a fight easier.
My bro Aberlad is never touching Gomorrah.

What's even the actual lore if any for the Emperor being so powerful?
The notion that some literal ooga booga prehistoric shamans used their ooga booga powers to create an ubermensch that's more powerful than literal primordial metaphysical embodiments of emotions experienced by quadrillions across the universe is retarded

>>713833741
Idira is written well, but she's still a nigger so she is automatically not worth taking. Statistics bear this truth out. Jae fails to make the Cold Trade interesting and she fails to make her past as an Imperial Guard interesting either. Just a very boring and uninteresting character altogether.

>>713834139
Yeah except that Morrigan isn't a literal villain that tortured and tries to kill you

>>713834385
I don't even see that fight being possible at all on Unfair unless your Rogue Trader is a tank or you have Abelard
With just Yrliet and Argenta they'll bumrush for your party instantly and you get one shot by everything at that point due to lonogear

>>713834338
Mmm okay now you are cooking...

>>713833801
How is Marazhai not extremely fun to have around? He has the best combat barks in the game, fantastic banter with every member in the party, and the best dialogue in general on every quest post Commoragh.

>>713834558
if Idira is so good, why do you want her gone?

>>713834139
Morrigan wasn't evil. She was edgy in a way a 17 year old girl is edgy (which is exactly what she is)
>>713834024
True. I don't even dislike marazhai as a character. Yes, him and his story are boring and he doesn't have an arc, but i did enjoy his banter at the very least in the one playthrough that i took him, but, like you said, zero reason to keep him for longer than commoragh. After that it's off to the inquisition's padded cell with him
As for Argenta, it's unfair to say that she's a typical sister. She has plenty of doubt in her to have room for personal growth while still being a good representation of what a sister of battle is like. Too bad they've botched it with cut content

>>713834594
That fight is easily doable without Abelard on Unfair, damn son how are you even building your dudes? Skill issue.

Dual flamers Jae, could it work?

>>713834481
He's just that good. He's the embodiment of everything that makes mankind great. He cannot fall unless we do.

>>713834679
I specified quite clearly why Idira is not worth taking in that post, can you read? And she's the least liked companion in the game so clearly, I'm right, and you're wrong.

>>713834385
>metagaming

>>713834750
By all means tell me how you're keeping Malice and his squad at bay with just Argenta and Yrliet and trash gear on Unfair unless you're a Pyro Psyker that doesn't rely on it
On Grim Darness of course because reloading until you get what you want is gay

>>713834691
Not only is Morrigan not 17, but she also openly encourages you do to evil shit such as
>abandoning a village so they'll all get murdered by undead because they're weak and deserve it
>abandoning the mages so they'll all get killed by abominations because they allow themselves to be caged
>sell a bunch of elves as slaves to Tevinter in exchange of money and the evidence against Loghain
>or worse, kill them, sacrifice them, so you can gain a power up
Just because she's not as bad as Owlcat's evil companions that are incapable of not commiting mass murder for a second won't change the fact that she's still evil

>>713834650
I agree with that. He's still boring as a character though

>>713834946
>metagaming

>>713834987
yep, and she ruined an entire GENERATION of young men, including myself

>>713834957
By not having Yrliet

>>713834650
He's not funny

>>713833189
honestly there has been so much that has been promised and then sold back to people as DLC that I don't even care what was originally promised or not.
that said, they did explicitly say that the cosmetic shop was set up to make sure they didn't have any DLC content that was locked behind a paywall, so again, fuck those hacks.

>>713834987
None of that reads as evil. It reads like "doh-ho-ho, I am so practical, edgy and cinical, i'd fit quite well on 4chins, doh-ho-ho"

>>713826130
This grand issue with Larian is that you will almost never fail at anything. All of those options will result in you slaughtering the opposition. Larian operates far too strongly on feeling powerful and rule of cool over all else.
You have a million ways slam dunk encounters, while all the enemy AI can do is flail impotently at you.
There are no moments where you are fighting a massive uphill battle or are faced with an enemy that can't be conquered with Jackie-Chan-In-A-Chair-And-Ladders-Factory tactics.

>>713834481
He represents mankind itself, but only the good parts.

>>713835250
>teehee human (elven) sacrifices are not evil
You think Regill is lawful neutral don't you?

>>713835113
He himself is not. The situations he finds himself in are. For examnple his realization that he is dead in literally every alternative reality is hilarious. He's kinda cringe and pathetic to the point where it becomes funny. Like a clown, you know

the more I read about the lore the more retarded it is, especially the background
>creation of the Emperor
>all the races that were super ultra giga technologically advanced compared to humanity except they lived trillions of years ago
>meanwhile humanity 30000 thousand years in the future has barely accomplished what one would expect humans to be ablet to do in around a thousand years from now

>>713835520
That's kinda the point. Humanity found itself in a fucked up universe controlled by things way more advanced than we are, but we refused to die and kept going by any means necessary.

>>713834957
>Yrliet
I've spotted your problem. In all seriousness though how are you having trouble with that fight? If you are really pressed simply move back and buy time until your allies show up at which point the fight is over. Of course if you actually built your dudes correctly just the RT and Argenta should be sufficient to achieve victory. What class is your RT?

>>713835520
Also, we had a golden age before all that shit started. Everyone had wonderful lives for a while. Then we encountered xenos and things started going bad.

>>713835113
His banters with the other crew members are the height of hilarity, so I beg to differ.

I've completely slept on shotguns during previous playthroughs. now i've given one to Abelard and it's fucking great. Have they changed them or have they always been a good secondary weapon?

>>713835282
That's patently false, Honor mode encounters in BG3 specifically remove all the cheese options which are only there for chucklefucks who can't beat the encounter straight up to begin with, and have the opponents act appropriately in trying to murder your party with everything they've got. Even the simplest ones like the Phase Spider or the Bulette are harder and more interesting than any encounter in an Owlcat game.

>>713835946
They got buffed

>>713835962
>Honor mode encounters in BG3 specifically remove all the cheese options
Can you give an example what cheese options were removed?

>>713835946
blasting hordes of chaff with a shotgun is a wonderful feeling

Abelard, bake me fresh rbead

>>713835520
Humanity's Golden Age is already over in 40k, anon. The Imperium is someone putting the scraps back together in 30k and by 40k it's devolved even further into a dystopian hellscape that's barely clinging on to life.

>>713836067
Phase Spider for example, you can't shove it off into the Underdark for a free kill when you're in honor mode, it just teleports back to its webs. They also removed all the cheese stacking on damage and extra actions in it.

>>713834481
he has been eating psykers and soulbinding people for millenia

>>713836395
>you can't shove it off into the Underdark for a free kill
That's kinda lame desu. Sounds like they've just removed all the fun from the game

>>713836672
Cheesing and exploiting your way through a hard encounter is only "fun" to retards who can't beat it with actual tactics.

>find clever way to kill boss
>uhmmmm that's problematic okay???? devs???? please remove this????

>>713836530
against his will. the people who love him and are trying to protect him are, ironically, causing him the most pain.

Are there any cool mods that increase difficulty? It's not really fun when battles ends before the first turn 90% of the time even on the hardest difficulty

>>713837179
What a biting commentary on irl human relationships...