Thread 713791413

What are the qualities of satisfying hack and slash combat?

>>713791413 (OP)
nobody cares about your chink gachaslop

>>713791413 (OP)
Not whatever shit you just posted.

>>713791413 (OP)
https://youtu.be/gY_KHBp9-dE

>>713791413 (OP)
not a screen full of plasmas shit so you cant see whats going on.
it also helps lazy devs hide their crappy collision work.

the best combat is one where there is none of this, see Overgrowth for how its done.

>anime princess posing in front of sparkly effects
How about "enemies" and "timing"

>>713791413 (OP)
Game?

>>713791413 (OP)
>namefag
>stiff animation
>2015 graphic
What even is this game

>>713791413 (OP)
each hack and each slash needs to feel deliberately chosen and combo'd
what you posted doesn't look like it has much weight to it, probably hold m1 and spam cooldown special attacks like all other gachas

>>713791826
Wuthering Waves

why are there STILL no anime hack and slash games?
(not talking about 2 button slop)

>>713791413 (OP)
It needs to utilize more than 1 button

>>713792401
i was too generous on using the term two button slop

>>713792170
Looks neat. Is it on Xbox?

>>713792170
is this the main selling point? that's underwhelming

>>713792479
it's actually a no button slop

>>713792481
No.

>>713792401
>gacha gameplay
Expected from gacha slop

>>713791413 (OP)
Piss off to your containment board

>>713791609
>>713791413 (OP)
imagine if another adult saw you playing this

>>713792358
Ninja Gaiden 4 soon broski

>>713791413 (OP)
go back, no one want to play your flop game

>>713792401
Oh no no no no....

>>713791413 (OP)
>anime girl
>cell shading
>skimpy outfit
>way too many particle effects
Why yes, I will spend $700 (10x full priced video games) on your gambling machine.

>>713791413 (OP)
exactly the opposite of picrel
all that matters is hack and slashes is controlling your character and hit confirmation feedback

>>713791413 (OP)
>first attack
good
>second attack
acceptable I guess
>third attack on
Out, fuck that awful, no positioning, no targeting, screen covering shit made exclusively from the mindset of someone addicted to MMOs. You're covering more range than the fucking Werehog. It's just plain repulsive.
Note: I'm talking SOLELY about the attacks, not the character. She's cute enough but that gameplay is a fucking abomination.

>>713791413 (OP)
Not being gacha trash for starters

no males no players

>>713795895
She's originally a boss in the game so they gave her a pretty accurate boss moveset in the playable form too. Those attacks covering so much ground are actually handy for a game mode wher a bunch of enemies spawn and you need to kill waves of them asap, her charge attack in smol form also pulls enemies in. Admittedly, parrying bosses with those attacks is obviously easy.

>>713796359
>Those attacks covering so much ground are actually handy for a game mode wher a bunch of enemies spawn and you need to kill waves of them asap
Stop with your simping for these dogshit attacks. Even fucking musous have less range than those attacks. If it was maybe a single special attack I could give it a pass but that's just her normal attack chain. So no, it's shit.
>She's originally a boss in the game so they gave her a pretty accurate boss moveset in the playable form too
So... it's a gimmick character. Why the fuck are you asking for proper judgement on good hack and slash combat using a gimmick character? Are you retarded?

>>713796571
This guy has really strong opinions about webms

>>713791609
That's hack and slosh

>>713796571
I'm not the op in case you haven't noticed, just decided to provide some additional context

Woah, that escalated quickly.

Flop and Slop combat

Genshin is better
shin is a tranny btw

>Year long attack animations
Either, the game is so slow and enemies are just target dummies standing around to allow these overly long combos to hit them without getting interrupted.
Or it is an action game where enemies do things, and you will never be able to use any of these attacks in actual combat.

So which one is this game?

>>713791413 (OP)
Not a bunch of AoE particle effect spam that's for sure

>>713797126
Animation cancelling by either jumping, other attacks, dodging or swapping to another character. For example, once she reaches a certain point of the animation when the swords spawn in the air, you can already use her skill and those swords will still hit the enemy so there's no need to wait through the whole animation. Same deal with swapping, the character you swapped from will continue sertain attacks while the one you're now controlling can do their own thing. Obviously, it's necessary to know which attacks can be followed up like that and which will just be cancelled completely. Perfect dodging also allows some characters to follow with the last hit of their combo, which is preferable to going through the whole string. THe character in the op needs to complete all of her attacks to gain full buffs for her transformation and if you just mash out her normal combo against an agressive enemy you'll get interrupted and take damage, so a better idea is to perfect dodge and get the finisher immediately to get the buff instead.

>>713797806
So you need to interrupt the combos, and you never actually use the long fancy looking string in the OP.

Seems pointless.

>>713798362
If you're against smaller enemies that are easily staggerable you absolutely can, just need to remember that an angry bear that's rushing at you relentlessly swinging its claws doesn't give a fuck about fancy particle effects.

>>713791620
>furtroon shit
congrats you baited me

>>713798597
>If you're against smaller enemies that are easily staggerable you absolutely can
So pointless then

>>713798362
>>713799617
>nitpicking
You can do full combos, especially if the elf needs to activate her forte gauge, or cancel to dodge if the enemy's attack is about to connect. But don't worry, here's gameplay that's suited for your tastes:

>>713791413 (OP)
>Turns into a stronk independent futa queen
Dropped. She was perfect as a smol cute little elf.

>>713799865
>is praising something even worse than bad musou combat
>thinks he's got any say over taste in gameplay
>tries to pretend his game is deeper than it is since it's clearly a gacha that's made to cater to mobile players
No one will agree with you about this being good hack and slash combat. It's just ugly. It's an abomination to hack and slash as a genre.
And to think I've seen shills say this game is equal to the likes of DMC or Ninja Gaiden.
Absolutely zero taste to be found.

>>713799865
Where they at least smart enough to let you dodge offset combos then?

>>713792538
no one complained about this when Monster Hunter Wilds did it

>wuwa combat
>you're watching cutscenes of your characters casting their abilities half of the time
thrilling

>>713800535
Everyone hates MH:W

>>713800535
Right, the 14% overwhelmingly negative reviewed game didn't have anyone complain about it.

>>713791413 (OP)
WOOOOW! so many colorful effects and animations that means the game is good!
so fucking stupid

Attention to detail, proper movement weight, and good animations.

>>713800659
>>713800758
that's about lack of support Crapcom have given the game, not the fact that you can play the intro without touching the controller

>>713800424
>tries to pretend his game is deeper than it is
>implying an implicating implication
I never said that. You just nitpick. Pray tell what's your best example.

>>713800520
Yes.

>>713801026
>namefag
>can't read
Tale as old as time and as gay as a nigger

>>713792401
didn't take long for the hoyoshill defense force to arrive lole

>>713791413 (OP)
So what is exactly inputted by the players here?
A A A A?

>>713801317
>IT'S DA HOYOS
>DA HOYOS ARE OUT TO GET ME

>>713792501
Yep, its actually a popular game with trannys since they can pretend that that is how they look like. If you look at steam profiles playing this game. More than half the time its a tranny who will never be a woman

>>713801332
Yeah, that webm shows the character's basic attack sequence 1 through 4. Using an xbox gamepad, this is done by pressing A A A and A.

>>713791413 (OP)
>Hey guys check out the cool skill in this game
>camera points directly at character
OP, did you even watch it? Why post a video of a skill when the camera isnt at the best angle? Why are you like this?

>>713801317
The fuck's a hoyo? You mean Kirby? That's poyo you retard. And yes, that does have better combat than that shit you've been posting. Imagine having worse combat than a game about a small pink guy that eats everything.

>>713801317
Fuck gacha but seriously? Id rather play the left than the dogshit on the right lol. Genshin is just a way way bigger zelda game.

>>713801409
but thats literally whats happens every wuwa /v/thread, hoyocuck tourists coming in to seethe.

Kuro mindbroke many

>>713801317
>zelda invented archery

>>713801634
>one piece swimsuit
dropped

>>713801637
>>713801317
OH BOY IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN
*inhales*
>BOTW invented climbing
>BOTW invented gliding
>BOTW invented grass
>BOTW invented grass fires
>BOTW invented fire
>BOTW invented bows
>BOTW invented charged bow shots
>BOTW invented stamina systems
>BOTW invented grasslands
>BOTW invented mountains
>BOTW invented goblins
>BOTW invented bigger goblins
>BOTW invented golems
>BOTW invented golem weakpoints
>BOTW invented ancient robots
>BOTW invented lasers
>BOTW invented demons
>BOTW invented ruins
>BOTW invented shields
>BOTW invented perfect shield blocking
>BOTW invented boss fights
>BOTW invented puzzles
>BOTW invented swords
>BOTW invented heavy attacks
>BOTW invented cliffs
>BOTW invented panning cameras
>BOTW invented cities
>BOTW invented trees
>BOTW invented elements
>BOTW invented glowing lines
>BOTW invented towers
>BOTW invented map markers
>BOTW invented the concept of art styles
>BOTW invented sword move strings
>BOTW invented animations
>BOTW invented maps
>BOTW invented exploration
>BOTW invented islands
>BOTW invented floating islands
>BOTW invented castles
>BOTW invented magnetism
>BOTW invented metal
>BOTW invented bombs
>BOTW invented horses
>BOTW invented cameras
>BOTW invented deserts
>BOTW invented nature
>BOTW invented nature spirits
>BOTW invented lighting torches
>BOTW invented spinning attacks
>BOTW invented both walking AND running
>BOTW invented touching things
>BOTW invented acquiring powers
>BOTW invented exploding barrels
>BOTW invented hunting
>BOTW invented mining
>BOTW invented wild plants
>BOTW invented wild animals
>BOTW invented slimes
>BOTW invented balloons
>Majora's Mask invented dolphin jumps

get BTFO'd other-game fags

>>713791413 (OP)
extreme mental illness, or paid marketer?

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/

>>713791413 (OP)
extreme mental illness, or paid marketer?

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/

>>713801714
Based AND correct.

>>713801707
you wont find anything on par in any safehorny jewhoyo game

>>713801634
>gachanigger tries to shill game with awful combat
>asks Anons to rate it as a "hack and slash game"
>can't argue against actual gameplay arguments made by Anons, just posts COPE to make it seem deeper
>Only acts out when his perceived enemy, a rival gachanigger mocks his shit
You're browner than the ganges river after curry night you shitskinned faggot. Neither your game, nor your rival's are good gameplay wise, they're dogshit made to cater to phone playing retards.

>>713801634
Is it weird that the hair obviously not being wet just completely ruins it for me?

extreme mental illness, or paid marketer?

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/

>>713801847
there is nothing to defend when niggers post bad faith clips on purpose lmeow, glad I outed you shills though

>>713801784
I don't play that shit either!
I want proper fucking swimsuits.
China can't do it. Overdesigned trash that makes no sense in reality.

>>713801941
extreme mental illness, or paid marketer?

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/

>>713791413 (OP)
not being gachashit for retard tranny niggers

>>713801847
it's their defense mechanism
they knew they can't compete with real games
so the moment anyone criticize their game they immediately just assumed it's a rival gacha company
they won't believe you even when you say all gacha is trash, they will still think you belong to their rival
because that's the only thing they have, that's where they feel belonged

>>713802026
>extreme mental illness, or paid marketer?
>
>https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/

>>713801714
Yes.

>>713801847
HOLY

>>713802207
>>>713802026(You)
>>extreme mental illness, or paid marketer?
>>
>>https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/

>>713801960
>post bad faith clips
Of what? No one's posted any clips other than you. We've broken it down as gameplay mechanics. Like I said, the only time you actually responded properly and not posting your gay cope is when your rival gachanigger appeared.
Since you seem a bit slow, let me make this easy to understand
>Normal action game devs>bad action game devs>>>>>>>>*Power gap*>>>Compile Heart>>>>>>*power gap*>>>> Gacha "action" games
You understand yet chinkboy? Hoyo and Kuro are dogshit. BOTH, maybe one of you is better than the other but that still puts you both beneath even the likes of Compile Heart. No one respects or cares about your sorry excuse of a "game"

>>713802153
nice cope but no one saves a clip of something they don't like unless they have an agenda, it's obviously a hoyoshill mad there's a wuwa thread on /v/, theyre worse than tendies

>>713791620
Man, Overgrowth was such a missed opportunity... conceptually the game looked great, but the final product lacked substance, unfortunately. And I backed it back in the day, too.
>>713791413 (OP)
I think a good hack and slash needs to have interesting combos, different weapons, techniques or characters to choose from (so that the player can pick whatever style they prefer), and a balanced difficulty, so that the game is neither too easy nor too hard. It also needs a proper way to build and scale your character to meet the growing challenges and all.

And of course, it needs to have proper sensory appeal to the target audience (the visual and music style must match the audience it wishes to appeal to)

>>713792401
your status: BTFO

>>713802529
>schizophrenic teleporting and flashing lights
WOWEE MAMA WOOOOO THIS SURE GETS THE DOPAMINE FLOWING

>>713802529
>all those screen covering attacks
Repulsive and ugly. A disgrace to action games.

Anonymous 06/27/25(Fri)22:10:53 No.713802286
>>713802207 (You)
>>>713802026 (You)(You)
>>extreme mental illness, or paid marketer?
>https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/

>>713802652
>>713802624
fuck off trannies pretending not to be paid hoyo lapdogs, I know none of you even played MGR

i think it's pretty impressive that they can make such expansive games on mobile. but they are mobile games and come with the trappings of being intended to be played on such an imprecise control scheme, as well as the financial incentive to make the games grindy as fuck for the gacha system.

>>713802676
>>>extreme mental illness, or paid marketer?
>>https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/

>>713802624
>>713802652
>geriatric boomers can't handle some particle effects and fast paced action
Sad you're literally too old to enjoy this genre anymore. At least you can still play shit like RTS tho.

>>713802739
WuWa plays like garbage on mobile.

>>713802715
wuwa sucks and it doesn't take another type of gachanigger to point it out
go back to >>>/vmg/ and be contained
>https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/

>>713802715
>NOBODY CAN DISLIKE MY FAVOURITE GACHA GAME UNLESS THEY'RE PAID TO DO IT
Your game is shit.

>>713802786
it looks like shit, you have bad taste
go back to >>>/vmg/ so you can post in peace without being bullied
>https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/

>>713792358
DMC is not anime enough for you?

>>713802802
everything does, and the entire system is built to accommodate those players who make up probably 80+% of the playerbase.
so it's limited by design, that's the reality.

>parrying
genshit could never
>dodging
genshit could never
>mechanics deeper than EQ
genshit could never

list goes fuck on and on, your game is outdated trash

>>713791413 (OP)
Stun lock, enemy interactions, hit strings and combo potential.
It's no different than designing a fighting game.

The reason why most Western and Chinese devs produce subpar hack n slash/character action games is due to their inexperience with fighters.
Either that, or they don't have the same trade-secrets Capcom has.

>wuwa sucks
Wuwa is the best gacha on the market right now, it's the only one that comes close to feeling more like a real game than checklist shit meant to kill time during a commute.

>>713802890
>genshit could never
True, which is why the ZZZ dev team did.

>>713802890
if wuwa is good then why does it need a paid shill to keep it on /v/?
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/

>>713803006
have to balance out the hoyo shills

>>713803006
why does it make you so mad? unlike the hoyo ones at least he uses a tripcode so you can ignore it

>>713802994
no it sucks
that's why a single retard is the one who keeps the threads on /v/ bumped and alive
>https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/
>>713803067
no you don't have to do anything, if you had a game worth playing with a community worth communicating with, it would exist and you would be there
but you aren't
you are here, with your tears and conspiracy theories begging for attention from people who don't care about you

>>713802994
>Wuwa is the best gacha on the market right now
Please refer to the rating list included here >>713802325 and then leave back to your shithole on /vg/ or /vmg/ or whatever. You're slop is like a tranny. It will never be a real game.

>>713801847
TRVTHKE

I'm not playing something called "wuthering waves".

The name alone is probably why 75% of potential interested people disregard it.

>>713803138
>no it sucks
Nah, it's pretty good. It's not going to make converts out of anyone that hates gachashit, but it's good enough to snag people that are on the fence.

>>713802994
Agreed, plus its a harem game with a strong MC so it mogs hoyo cuckshit by default

>>713802749
>>>>extreme mental illness, or paid marketer?
>>>https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/
>>713803284
if its good then people would be talking about it and not crying because other people think it sucks

>>713803270
gachashart eaters seems to love games with dumb names

>>713803156
>It will never be a real game
I never said it was, retard. I said it comes the closest to feeling like one. At best you could treat it like an episodic game and play it for a few hours once a month.

>>713803381
>if its good then people would be talking about it
We are.

>>713802786
it looks like shit, you have bad taste
go back to >>>/vmg/ so you can post in peace without being bullied
>https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/

extreme mental illness, or paid marketer?

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/

>>713803417
you can't bully somebody into playing your retarded gachashit called "wuthering waves"(????) you idiot sperg, it just makes them hate you and your gay little chinkslop even more

h-hey guys I' mgunna play...WUTHERING WAVES *snort* its the best gacha around!

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/

>>713803515
>you can't bully somebody into playing your retarded gachashit
How am I bullying anyone, let alone trying to get them to play the game. I haven't even posted my affiliate link.

>>713803417
>I said it comes the closest to feeling like one
With those god awful, repulsively ugly screen wide attacks? No chance in hell. It's not even musou tier, it's somehow even fucking lower than that.
It will never be a real game, no one will ever think it passes as a real game. No matter how hard it tries it will never be allowed in the real games room.

holy fuck gachaniggers are mentally ill, look at this shit

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/

Every time I get interested in these games I watch game play. The obnoxious loud effects, the simplistic 'gameplay' the character swapping bullshit (at least in zzz). Just reminds me to not play. Thanks!

>>713803724
but the story is so epic and the girls are hot
yes the gameplay is press A 4 times to awesome but games aren't about gameplay it's about hot anime girls

For me, it's
>interesting and fun to use weapons, magic, and/or moves
>low downtime
>not-sluggish movement speed
>enemies that aren't annoying to fight
>noticeable character progression
>rng drops that result in rare power spikes
grim dawn did it pretty well

just think, you could have made your dumbfuck thread in >>>/vmg/ and talked about it in peace

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/

>>713803860
>games aren't about gameplay
True.
It's about owning the libs. The best part about playing wuthering waves is seeing all the seething women, faggots, and trannies whenever the male MC gets a new girl acting sweet on him.

>>713791413 (OP)
>want to get into hack and slash gacha slop games
>can't get over the constant cutscenes
is there a gacha slop game that just gets you into the action?

sage

>>713803860
>Play Senran Kagura
>get even better action gameplay AND even hotter anime girls
>it's a real game as well, not gacha slop

>>713803689
That's fine if you feel that way, just don't put words in other people's mouths to fuel your schizo ramblings.

>Weighted Attacks
>Enemy AI
Everything else is just icing on the cake. It's why I like Dragon's Dogma so much. It's pretty basic and not at all rocket science, but it feels like your attacks have something behind them, and this encompasses a lot of elements. From the animation of both you and your opponent, to the visual effects, the way you and your enemy stagger before and after an attack, the differential delay between types of attack, the camera angle, and so on. There's a lot at play that goes largely unnoticed in great action combat, and entirely unutilized in many.
In regards to Enemy AI, that can be explained with one simple quote
>It has to be fun to shoot at the enemy, as well as be shot at
In other words: make the enemy want to fucking kill you, and give them a fighting chance. That feeling of success comes from the innate fear of failure, and if there is very little or none at all, the game's combat will be memoryholed as soon as you finish it, if not before.

extreme mental illness, or paid marketer?

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/

>>713804171
Paid marketer, when people posted mihoyo waifus the thread was suddenly deleted

>>713804171
>No.713804171extreme mental illness, or paid marketer?
>
>https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/tripcode/!RfQvneuvRU/

>>713803991
not that I can think of, they all have a lot of bloated VN segments

>>713804043
>SK
>get even better action gameplay
I would actually put SK's combat on the same level as gachashit in terms of depth. Which is to say it's incredibly shallow.
>hotter anime girls
They would be if the in game models didn't all look the same.

>>713804054
>other people's mouths
I haven't. Gachaniggers aren't people after all.
How about next time you faggots make a thread, don't even pretend it's about gameplay so that gameplaychads like me don't need to see your faggotry on display. It's an eyesore. That goes for your homosexual rival as well. You're both as gay as each other.

>>713803270
At least it's not called "Brown Dust" i guess...

>>713804171
>>713803053
He even got so triggered by p5x getting more interest than wuwa in less time he even defended genshin

>>713804305
>I haven't.
Alright, you're clearly a mentally ill schizo so I'll be disengaging now.

>>713804247
I'm going to work on building up a folder and subfolders for these gachatards and just cross post waifus from their rival games in their threads. It will probably work way better than posting naked fat men.

>>713804305
>>713803689
no matter how much you seethe I can still only commend them for doing action gameplay instead of jrpg turn based shit, now thats truly what 'not a game' means

>>713804301
It is shallow but no way it's on the same level as that zero effort dogshit. It has proper combo chains(not just one button shit) and requires positioning as each basic light and heavy attack isn't a screen wiper.

>>713804495
no he's right, gachaniggers are subhuman especially somebody who gets hooked on chinkshit called "Wuthering waves"

you must be some sort of seagook with a pig nose to have gotten sucked in

I just cant imagine a white dude ever playing something called 'wuthering'

>>713791413 (OP)
not cartethiya, that's for sure
she's super clunky and all special effects spam

>>713802529
now show the inputs lil bro

>>713804539
Do so, in their contracts they can't advertise the competition

>>713804675
>he
Nigga, I know it's you, samefag. You can't hide behind anon when you're acting this autistic. You think some reddit spacing is enough to throw people off?

>>713792637
You are a fuking kid yet, when you grow up you won´t have to imagine itt, ince yoy will not give a fuck about what people think about your hobies.

Dynasty Warriors.

>>713802529
Do you honestly think this looks good, retard?
Half of those attacks look like they didn't even connects yet the mob still takes damage.

>>713791524
>>713791542
fpbp
/thread

r8

https://streamable.com/s9emwg

>>713804610
>no way it's on the same level as that zero effort dogshit
I'm going to give you the benifit of the doubt and assume you're talking about a SK game I haven't played that actually has a modicum of depth to it. The games I played were the two versus games and they were as shallow as shallow gets. Actual dynasty warriors slop.

>>713804780
that's my problem with her

there's so many special effects going on, and you need to do so many combos to 'fully' use her it's kinda unfun to play DESU

>>713805023
And if you've been following along, this gacha shit is even lower on the totempole than Dynasty Warriors slop.

>>713800535
I did, during the first playtest. Don't make me skim the archives for this
Fuck of gachaniggers

>>713804863
DWO would have been decent if it didn't suffer from parry slop.

>>713805098
yup which is why she was an ez skip for me
also based for posting chisa, I am saving for her
I hope she's fun

>>713805182
I've played SK games and I've played wuwa. they're both shallow but I would give the edge to wuwa since it at least has parry and stagger mechanics.
But again, I haven't played ALL the SK games. If there's one that has actual depth, feel free to share it.

>>713805098
I've been playing Dota 2 for years now and I'm used to seeing the SFX spam. Once you're used to them you can see through the effects and react instinctively.

>>713791413 (OP)
qrd on the lore of this game?

Rover.

>>713805467
You are the most important person in the world on a quest to gather as many wives as possible

>>713805365
It's not so much the effects that bother me, it's her move set that makes me go "Oh I gotta do this then this than that move, then this" to fully use her.
Which isn't *awful* but when mobs are attacking you and interrupting your combo, it's hard to build on.
Maybe it's just me.

>>713805265
Me too, Lupa I may have wanted but she's a buffer iirc.
Don't reaaally care for Phrolova(?) because she's havoc based off of having Roccia/Cantarella.
I spent close to 20k and my extra currency just getting Cartethyia and her weapon, and I'm not really satisfied by her gameplay.

>>713805774
Ah, yeah, the getting the 3 swords out and then use them by doing a plunge attack. If you're intro-ing, you already did the charged attack for sword #1. Then do the usual normal combo, but if you do it as a counter (dodge and attack), you'll skip a few animations for sword #2. Use skill for sword #3 and you'll be airborne, and then plunge attack to absorb the swords, then burst.

If you want to do it normally, it's slower, but this sequence is smoother if that make sense.

>full combo
>use skill
>charged attack mid-air
>it autos to plunge attack
>burst

chisa looks mid and her sword looks retarded. I'll be pulling blue bitch.

>>713805935
same
I was going to get Lupa but she ended up just being a buffer for two characters that I don't even have, which is kind of retarded for a supposed warrior character, you'd think she'd be a hypercarry and yeah, while I like Phrolova as a character she's ANOTHER character that require a specific team to be optimal
but I might get both Augusta and Iuno if they have fun gameplay

>>713806284
Their weapons.

>>713804941
pretty good but why no male rover

>>713806284
I'm very curious to see iunos anims, I hope shes a cool af ranger char

>>713806406
That's augusta's weapon on the right, lil nigga. Not chisa.

>>713806284
I am tempted by Iuno as well, but idk if she's going to be a main damage dealer.
>>713806207
I'd probably need a video to explain it better because sometimes even when reading it just goes through my ears(I'm a bit retarded tbf).
>>713806395
Yeah, Augusta/Iuno are very appealing honestly. I'm definitely going to wait to see how they play. I'm sitting on a guarantee.

>>713792401
>make a 1 button build in the roguelite gamemode
>complain it uses 1 button
are you retarded?

>>713806406
Is Iuno gonna ride that thing and shoot out of it like Ishtar?

>>713805218
Good thing I was thinking more along the lines of 3, 4 and maybe 5.

>>713796571
damn bro calm down wtf

>>713806656
https://streamable.com/nc30ak

Full combo: 1 sword
Skill: 1 sword
Charged attack: 1 sword
Plunge attack: absorb swords

Picrel. Top is you got 3 swords out. Do a plunge attack to absorb the 3 swords. You'll know when you absorb them when there is a spiral animation around the swords.

>>713807483
When you do the

>full combo
>charged attack
>skill

There will be 3 swords on the field (top pic). Do a jump attack to absorb the sword (bottom pic). This will empower Fleur form, so doing this is important.

>>713807857
If you couldn't see the swords because of SFX spam, you can tell you've absorbed them if Fleur has 3 swords floating beside her.

When does this shit get good?
I gave it a chance for the dogshit update Genshin got but this feels worse and the writing hurts me.

>>713808128
Things will get better after you beat Dreamless. But that's 5-10 hours away.

>>713804464
Wuwa and genshin threads are organic, but these P5x threads are obviously made by a shill trying to promote that knockoff.

>>713808298
That's fucking grim.
I went through the character list and saw I liked that dragon girl at least, but I don't think it's worth dropping a tenner for an account with her if I may not like the game later.

>>713791413 (OP)
webms are the BEST way to shill a game, continue this into the future. i'm only an hour into wuwa because in my free time i've been occupied with having fun with cs2 and a few other gacha games. will get to it eventually.

>>713808617
There's a faster way however. The game lets you skip everything in 1.X and jump straight to 2.X. Personally I don't want to suggest skipping the other chapters, but there's the option.

>>713791413 (OP)
Hitstun, hitsparks, weight of animation, good enemy design, tough but fair enemy placement and tells
in short, it has nothing to do with what you've posted

>>713807483
>>713807857
>>713808013
The video helps quite a bit actually, I think the problem I was running into is when to do the 'special' attack to get her far right sword.
My Cartethyia is sadly without any ER, although her CR/CDMG is at 71%/265%? or so.
I would love to get more ER but, to no avail with echo luck there.
Do her swords stay down until you ulti?

>>713791620
>see Overgrowth for how its done.
ONE WHO CONSORTS WITH BEASTS

>>713791413 (OP)
What a pathetic embarrassment of a "game" that is
Go jack off, loser

>>713809091
>Do her swords stay down until you ulti?
The swords are on a timer and if you ult before absorbing them, they'll vanish and it's a DPS loss for Fleur.

>>713809257
Hmm..
So you need to ulti pretty much after you finish laying her swords down, making needing ER that more important.
Fug.

>WuWa has characters voiced by the excellent BG3 cast
>GenSHIT has spic mutts
WuWa Won

>>713809370
You mean only Jennifer English.
It was mandatory to put some trash in her filmography between BG3 and Expedition 33.

>>713802652
What about ARPG combat?

>>713803417
Ywnbaw tranny

>>713808527
Lmao shin imagine being so desperate you are asking for genshinfags support
Also I bet you are the one spamming buy an ad in the other gacha threads

>>713812691
I thought they already vilified me because I left for greener pastures.................

>>713809370
>>713809667
wuwa hired some mutt VAs for 1.0 and the dub was so bad, they switched to using bri'ish VAs and the increase in VO quality is very noticeable.
genshin still uses terrible mutt VAs mostly though, far as I know.

>>713812876
I mean you have been harassing other gachafags while yours are clearly pure shill by yourself

>>713812932
I haven't posted in a while though.

>>713812876
No they mock you for being a pinoy

>>713791413 (OP)
>What are the qualities of satisfying hack and slash combat?
Weapons have appropriate weight and hits actually connect.
Enemies should react to being hit from different directions.

>>713813083
But they were happy I beat the Abyss for the first time............................

>namefag op
>gacha faggot shit
We used to bully namefags here. I miss those days.

>>713813513
It's all newfags and shitposters nowadays, anon.

>>713813513
You won't do shit faggot.

Good night, bwos.

>>713791524
>slop
retard detected

>>713815665
Now, I'm not saying you're a faggot for liking what happens in that webm.
...but you sure aren't straight.