Do it anon...
No one will ever know.

>>713793496 (OP)
I only did that shit in Pokemon Red by abusing the MissingNo glitch
Infinite rare candy and master balls? Yes.

I did.
I also cheat in shinies and rare pokemon I want to play with.
No, I'm not waiting till endgame to catch Bagon or Beldum

>>713793590
>>713793594
You didn't beat the game

>>713793496 (OP)
can't blame anyone for it. grinding in pokemon is not fun

>>713793496 (OP)
Doesn't spamming Rare Candies fuck up your Pokemon's stats?

Rare candies ruin your EVs so your lvl 100 pokemon are weaker that naturally raised level 60 pokemon

>>713793694
look at this child, lmao.
yes, I beat the game. yes I used speedhacks and save states.

>>713793932
>>713793976
that is not how EVs and the box trick work
if u gain EVs and put the mon in the pc and take it out the stats are recalculated

>>713793932
Only if you get them to 100 in the games before gen 5, since you needed to level up for EV gains to be applied

>>713794029
it can't recalculate if there are no EVs to recalculate anon

>>713794010
That's nice dear but you still didn't beat the game

>>713793976
I don't think I give a shit

>>713794085
you don't suddenly stop getting them at 100 retard

I unironically use these for Nuzlock's. Makes them much more fun.
No idea why you'd use them other than that. Pokemon games are incredibly easy and don't require grinding at all.

>>713794141
>maxes out rare candies to not grind levels
>needs to grind for EVs
???

>>713794251
EVs take way less time to grind. If you're using Pkhex like a normal person, then just edit them in too.

>>713793496 (OP)
Rare candies are fine because level caps are better in mods/hacks anyways.

>>713794323
I was just correcting the post I replied to because they missed the point of why spamming rare candies end up neglecting EV stats

>>713793976
evs are not nearly that strong anon

>>713793496 (OP)
Guys, do you think my wife would mind?

>>713793496 (OP)
did this in my main emerald save and it sickens me so much that I reset hundreds of hours
Curiously I have no scruples getting the same effect with the cloning glitch.

>>713794029
>>713794081
I know they wanted raised pokemon to be stronger than caught pokemon at the same level so your bros feel stronger than random chumps, but there had to have been a better way than this shit. If you're not meant to game it, and it's just meant to be a background process, why make it so convoluted and why add mechanics like berries that let you manipulate it? If you are meant to engage with it why put such a ball busting system into a game for 6 year olds? It's like a sick joke they played on the few people who were even aware of its existence, like if you know enough about the mechanics to know how it works you're a dumb nerd and deserve this bullshit we give you.

>>713793496 (OP)
>Grinding isn't fun, killing hundreds of rattata for 2 hours isn't skillful or fun, just boring
>That's why I rare candy my whole team to the level of next gym ace pokemon.
>What do you mean it trivializes every encounter before the gym leader? What do you mean pokemon have different growth rates? What do you mean by soulless?

>>713793496 (OP)
levels don't really matter but my gripe is the fucking natures, what a completely ass of a system
I've been playing emerald and just hack in the right nature if I get a shit one

>>713794683
most pokemon mechanics are hidden so they're approachable to 6 year olds
the nerdy autistic faggots can minmax by breeding IVs for hundreds of hours
the smart people inject

>>713794564
but it doesnt
you just fight the pokemon after
it doesnt neglect anything
actually learn about the things you talk about before running your mouth

>>713794683
it worked fine in gen 1 and 2, you just kill stuff and they make your mons a tiny bit stronger, idk why when they made gen3 they went full autism mode on everything

>>713794776
>not using the tools available in game to get the natures you want
retard

>>713794907
because stat exp is a boring and even grindier system
if you don't care about battle frontier or pvp, why give a shit about natures and EVs

>>713794683
>It's like a sick joke they played on the few people who were even aware of its existence, like if you know enough about the mechanics to know how it works you're a dumb nerd and deserve this bullshit we give you.
That's how I've always viewed it, I've never met a non-autistic person who cares about EVs
I just play the game like they don't exist, because they honestly don't matter

>>713795034
>if you don't care about battle frontier or pvp, why give a shit about natures and EVs
exactly, that's my point

grinding is cringe, cheating is based

>>713794106
Sorry meant for
>>713793694

What should my sixth pokemon be for my Platinum playthru? Maybe an Eeveelution?

>>713796294
Glaceon and name it Ye

>>713796294
not much of a playthrough left if you're in the 60s

>>713794603
marley is MY wife

>>713793496 (OP)
>no EVs
Go right ahead

>>713796531
OK!
>name it Ye
i shall name him WhiteAlbum

>>713796979
>can get EVs before or after
wow you really thought thattl reply out, retarded poser
you dont know what you're talking about

>>713796294
You're playing a Sinnoh game. The answer is always Bibarel.

>>713797129
as an HM slave? i already have one, he's in the box.

Can you mentally stunted manchildren fuck off back to >>>/vp/

So here's the thing:
If you were to train your pokemon the regular way, you would kill hundreds, if not thousands of pokemon you find in bushes
You know none of them pose a threat to the pokemon you're training, and you always have a healing center at hand

So tell me. Why would you spend possibly several weeks to do this, instead of just duping rare candies and be done within an hour or so?
How is your life improved, having mindlessly grinded your pokemon to max, never facing a challenge while doing it?
You just wasted weeks of your life, while someone reached that goal within the day, and got to continue playing the game, and you didn' even enjoy the grind, just had to do it.
If a grind is incredibly monotonous and requires constant repetition of something that takes minimal input from the player and poses no challenge, then you should always cheat in whatever it is that you're aiming for, otherwise you're just wasting your time.

HOWEVER, in the case of Pokemon games, don't fucking grind or cheat, you don't have to, the games are piss easy, the trainer fights give you more than enough XP to progress and you only need to understand the rock, paper, scissors gameplay, levels won't matter all that much unless there's a massive gap. And don't hoard consumables, use them constantly, especially stat boosts.

>>713797084
You know damn well he isn't going to max them out first, especially before gen 6 made EV training realistically possible for most people. Otherwise, we would be outright encouraging him to do so.

>>713793594
I unironically like it when they lock the rare cool looking powerful mons till the lategame or even postgame. Gives me something to look forward to while playing.

>>713797193
Of course he is. Looking at your levels, you already beat the game with your five mons + Bibarel.

>>713793496 (OP)
Technically you can get infinite rare candies with one little raccon dogo.

>>713796979
Just use stat boost items

>>713794994
funny you say that because I actually tried getting a bunch of synchronize mons but felt beyond retarded doing so
I've been using trace for abilities and that works fine but natures are just stupid

>>713797435
i only just beat the 8th gym

>>713797384
>postgame
but you already beat the league. No need for strongmon anymore

>>713797487
Only goes up to 100 EVs per stat. But, hey, if you want to spend nearly five hundred thousand pokedollars on a 100/100/100/100/100/12 spread, go right ahead.

>>713794683
Back when I played gen 3 I did not know shit about EVs or IVs. Were EVs explained in game at some point? I mean something besides something vague like
>training your pokemon makes them stronger :^)
I don't remember but I could have missed it.

>>713796294
>space in nick

>>713797710
How are your levels so high without VS seeker grinding? Even with the lucky egg, there aren't enough trainers to power level five pokemon to the 60s by Volkner assuming you battled them all once.

>>713798013
>anon surprised some people don't streamline these games and just play and hang out

>>713797336
ev training was always realistically possible, what are you talking about?
meanwhile you have to switch grind on literally tens of thousands of low level magikarps to max stat exp with 0 attack

>>713798134
Then his levels should be even lower, not higher. Most casual players that don't funnel all their exp into one mon have underleveled teams.

This anon seems to have spent his entire life bullying the elderly for their lunch money while waiting for a Munchlax to spawn

>>713793496 (OP)
I did it.
For nuzlocke runs.

>bUt My Ev StAts

Who the fuck cares?

>>713798450
why are you trying to analyze how he plays? he's just playing the game and clearly having fun making up his team

>>713798585
The stat exp apologist(s) do.

>>713794010
>look at this child
a child doesn't use cheats to beat fucking pokemon lmao

>>713793496 (OP)
This shit is laughable cause the gym leaders are so obviously designed around being higher level than you.
I guess these autists would literally grind to match their levels anyway, but the intended way to play is for your guys to be like level 12 when you're facing Roxanne's level 15 Nosepass.

>>713798585
boomer retards who prefer stat exp to EVs

>>713798657
You will not smash his bussy

You didn't beat the game

>>713796294
Weavile

>>713798895

>>713798895
i beat the game mr fug

>>713798013
i hang out in the tall grass to find 'mons that i want. its my first Platinum playthru. i only got garchomp because anons in another thread told me where to find gible.

>>713794141
You do before gen 5
I think you can still use vitamins (until you have 100), but before gen 5, you need to gain exp to gain EV from battles

>>713799158
so use the box trick

>>713797770
There is when there's an actual postgame

I'm casually doing a semi-blind nuzlocke of the whole series. I did the grinding for yellow, crystal, emerald. Holy shit, I'm not doing that again.

>>713799218
Nah u need exp at 100 for non-vitamin EVs

>>713794683
Honestly EVs really aren't that big of a deal.
Even in the earliest implementation of them it doesn't take more than an hour of killing Wingulls to max out your mon's EVs
Is it grindy? Sure, but honestly it's kinda worth it for that perfect Pokemon - seeing the +12s to the trained stat on each level up really gets your tailbone singing.

>>713798801
Its a childrens video game.

>>713793496 (OP)
Launch Pokemon Black
Hack in a team of my fav mons
Yup, it's gaming time

>>713799087
So you're entire team is so overleveled because you did nothing but sit in the grass catching and killing wild pokemon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SZpzdJlGz0

But seriously, if you really did that, then you should 3-5 boxes of mons to choose from. You've probably nearly finished the dex and seen all three pixies, which you needed to do anyway to get the national dex after beating the game. Post the third box and we'll pick out a mon that looks cool.

>>713799218
Only works if you need 100 EVs on the stats
Max is 252 per stat (510 total)
Even with box trick, a 0 EV mon can only get up to 100 on 5 stats through vitamins

>>713799158
>>713799403
i see now. another win for gen 5

>>713799475
This piece of shit is so scary in the factory. Is he the biggest special defense tank? Blissey is so fragile physically that at least you got something to deal with it.

>>713799615
i already decided on glaceon

OP is messing with all of you. He's clearly going to use them his rare candies on Deoxys, the only pokemon whose stat changes are calculated after the battle prior to gen 5.

just dont level up to 100 until you are done ev training, simple

>>713794146
>Plays the permadeath mode
>skips the main thing that risks deaths
You did not in any capacity beat the game.

>>713796294
>>713796294
You need a fighting type. You don't need a fire type. Drop Rapidash and add Breloom and Gliscor.

>>713800115
>skips the main thing that risks deaths
yea killing thousands of low level wild mons is very risky and not time consuming at all!

>>713799970
You can't get EV from wild when the pokemon is lv 100, Deoxys is not the exception
Recalculation =/= gain

>>713800115
How does killing 5000 spindas risk deaths
Random trainers risk deaths. Not knowing what pokemon the gym leader has risks deaths. Not knowing when rival fights happen risks deaths. Not knowing moves and held items does that.

>>713799906
You can actually get away with using an eeveelution considering you grind. They all learn their good moves way too late in gen 4. Well, except Leafeon. Your levels STILL aren't high enough for leaf blade and swords dance.

Do you still have your ice beam TM? Glaceon doesn't learn ice beam by level up. If not, you'll have to buy the TM for blizzard and raise its PP.

>>713797384
You’re the biggest kind of cocksucking faggot.

>>713800179
my Green Day has brick break
>>713800317
yeah i do, i bought a 2nd ice beam TM from the game corner and gave one to my Survivor (he has a Modest nature). Gave Blizzard to Tiny Feet even though ice beam is probably better.

>>713800243
>Random trainers risk deaths. Not knowing what pokemon the gym leader has risks deaths. Not knowing when rival fights happen risks deaths. Not knowing moves and held items does that.
All of these are only applicable on a blind run or a randomizer. Getting randomly crit or boomed while grinding is the riskiest thing otherwise.

>>713800553
>set game to 2000% speed
>mash dpad on route 1
>hold turbo A button
So challenging and risky, campaignshitter. Now go back to genwarring on >>>/vp/ where you belong.

>>713800553
>Getting randomly crit or boomed while grinding is the riskiest thing otherwise.

>gym leaders are harder than random wild pokemon

why are you so retarded

>>713800551
Excellent, now go back to Celestic Town during the morning hours (4-10 AM) and get the choice specs from the glasses guy. All Glaceon does is spam ice moves, so you might as well aim to hit as hard as possible.

>>713800839
OK!

>>713800780
>campaignshitter
Post ELO faggot

>>713800553
When I did grind, I didn't grind on dangerous pokemon. But yes, I will admit that a non-blind nuzlocke would be extremely easy.

>>713800928
Struck a nerve?

>>713801102
If you're gonna admit to being a compfagging bedwetter you might as well show the class. Also
>game speed 2000%
YWNBTG

>Max out pokemon level
I sleep
>max out certain ev on a pokemon
Thats the one, especialy since killing some random mon before maxing out fucks your stats

>>713801367
Item dupe the EV reducing berries. This should be one of the first things you do along with item duping rare candies when you start to consider EV training. Save your first seven boxes for these items.

>>713801097
>a non-blind nuzlocke
These are a pretty rare commodity if you dont play romsharts.

>>713801330
Yep, I struck a nerve.

>>713801812
I meant first playthrough of the game, or re-play after a great number of years.

>>713793496 (OP)
>cheating at pokemon out of all things
how bad you must be?

how about a blind and deaf nuzlocke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNMWkD5VsZ8

>>713801330
>YWNBTG
I am the guy though

>>713802074
I kneel

>>713796816

>>713793976
Who will win in a fight?
>Pokemon being 5% weaker
vs.
>you investing 12 hours into naturally levelling the mon

>>713793496 (OP)
Might aswell put the game down and pretend you won tbqh

>>713794146
>>713795839
>>713798504
>>713799287
>>713800780
Do """pro nuzlockers""" really?

>>713796294
>tiny feet
It's Little Feat you dumbass

>>713802558
>do people who play the games really
yes.

>>713802740
NO

>>713793496 (OP)
If you do this in Clover, you get jailed after the E4 and your save wiped.

>>713802865
>people who play the game
You admitted to skipping over half of it tho...

>>713801576
But now you need to remember what pokemon give what evs, or you need one pokemon

>>713802982
If you ever played on an emulator, you 100% changed the emulation speed. Putting it on 2x means you skipped half of the game.

>>713802982
nah they still get the 9 badges or whatever

>>713796294
Bibarel unironically

>>713803072
>you 100% changed the emulation speed
I put the games on 0.5 speed to experience double what the game has to offer, which makes me the quadruple the gamer you are

>>713802960
Yes it is, nigger. You're clearly a jojofag, why use the shitty censored dub name on just one of them?

>>713803195
I concede.

>>713803295
cuz i like the way it sounds!

>>713797336
>especially before gen 6 made EV training realistically possible for most people.
goddamn how fucking lazy are you people

>>713797296
/vp/ isnt a containment board
shut the fuck up retard

>>713802421
>use nothing but the starter
>not even grind for shit, just beat trainers and shit you meet on the road
>still steamroll the entire game in less than 8 hours
stop being bad

>>713803072
>you 100% changed the emulation speed.
you're literally projecting

>>713800501
What, you want the game to just casually hand you a powerful mon early so you can steamroll the game? If you want that cool pseudo legendary, you'll have to put in the effort and WORK for it faggot.

>>713793496 (OP)
I never used rare candies because I thought my pokemon were going to be weaker because of that

>>713803754
Yeah it is. It contains the the anime from /a/.

Yeah, I edit levels to match the next boss
Yeah, I edit in 999999 money
Yeah, I edit drops to be 100%
etc.
Punching slimes for five hours isn't gameplay and never will be. Pokemon tried to start fixing it's dilemma with Audinos in Gen V but you all couldn't let go of the fact that you couldn't use Charizard for the billionth time in the first one so they threw away it's entire design philosophy.

>>713803072
>what are we furious about today, /v/?
>people who speed up a turn based game in an emulator
>oh

>>713804182
Why did millennials always propagate this lie? Did they simply not understand how EVs work?

>>713797886
It's sort of implied through various items and dialog, but the mechanics are never made fully understood to you at any point and I don't recall anything saying 'hey beating up X gives Y' either, there isn't always a correlation between that and base stats.

>Vitamins (and feathers) making certain stats higher, but they couldn't be used over 100 EVs until SwSh
>If you get Pokerus for the first time, in most games you're told by a nurse that it's beneficial
>Macho Brace mentions it slows the wielder down but 'promotes growth'
>Since Emerald, several berries reduce your stats if used
>DP adds specialist equivalent stat-manipulating gear
>Other games may have NPC services or other features that promote growth in some manner
>Later ones have star graphs for EV distribution but never numbers

Outside of items, shit's technically tied to experience so it took until BW to be able to get EVs at Lv100 and effectively retrain, and XY to adjust the stat cap to 252 instead of 255 (as to avoid wasted points) on top of other odd tweaks overtime. For what's meant to be mostly a children's game, I must say the EV system is oddly nuanced but also opaque.

>>713793496 (OP)
Eh
The good romhacks have level caps anyhow
Etrian odyssey pokemon is a 10/10

>>713804545
>I only want to do important fights fighting wild mons isnt gameplay
>does everything she can to avoid comp
KWAB

>>713804640
>Macho Brace
I remember never using it and maybe the soothe bell too? Because I thought it permanently lowered your pokemon's speed as you trained it with the item.
Yeah it might be stupid but I was a dumb kid.

>>713804587
I'm making a comparison, retard. The whole thread is about people who are mad at rare candies. I'm not mad about speed up.

>>713793496 (OP)
I do this for games before Exp Share.

I just don't have the time I had as a kid to grind out levels

>>713804935
Yes, fighting wild pokemon isn't gameplay outside of seeing who's in an area. There isn't an iota of brain power behind them. It's designed to only bloat playtime. I will not mash through ze goblins only casting fire at 100x speed.

>>713798736
>speedhacks and save state
>cheats
>t. retard

>>713805928
>beating this is hard for her
No wonder you avoid competitive

>>713807297
Keep adjusting that spent the afternoon stomping wolves or did an autistic speedrun strat award and trying to infer that I don't play comp for some bizarre reason, I've probably played it longer than your sharteen self has

>>713804220
which this thread doesnt have retard
also you dont know what the word "containment" means
mlp is a containment board

>>713804938
In all fairness, the wording on it isn't entirely clear.

>>713793496 (OP)
I'll know.

>>713793496 (OP)
I used to cheat, but once you do it you can't put the genie back in the bottle, and cheating makes you lose interest in the game faster.
I prefer legit, but I play casually anyway.
I don't judge anyone who cheats though, the RNG is retarded, and I've legitimately lost shinies due to being unlucky (Shiny Paras in Safari Zone didn't stay in the ball) or just being unprepared (Shiny Makuhita in Victory Road whirlwinded me in gen 3, although this is the exact situation why I now always master ball such shitters in early gens if I find them).

>>713793496 (OP)
Some newer difficulty romhacks have a candy bag and removed EVs for nuzlockers. You really don't want to spent 5 hours grinding a team on normal speed for one battle after doing an hour of calcs. They did not design their hacks that way.

>>713807880
From the sounds of it you dont play the game at all anon. But hey, at least you'll have your has to cheat at a children's game award, right?

>>713809947
nah
my elo > your elo btw

I will never understand the people who feel the need to grind in Pokemon just to beat the game.

>>713810341
You need to remember the sort of creature that peruses /v/

since this is a cheating thread
I've been playing the pokemon games in order, I'm now on Emerald and would like to transfer my mons from Blue and Crystal over, can pkhex handle that? I assume gen 1 and 2 don't have any way of getting the added stuff to gen 3 on their files naturally...
Is that a feasible thing to do?

>>713793976
>100 pokemon are weaker that naturally raised level 60 pokemon
Full effort value investment is 63 points in a stat.
On a pokemon with base 100 in the stat, a level 79 with full investment has just over what a 100 does with none. The exact level will vary by what the base stat is, higher base stat = smaller difference, while lower base stat = higher difference.
Now realistically, you're not getting full investment in a single player playthrough. You're getting the same, mostly even spread everyone else gets, unless you're autistic enough to kill 252 Zigzagoons or whatever the fuck the moment you catch your pokemon. On average, this is gonna be AROUND 15 points in each stat, maybe plus 3 if you gave them one of the vitamins you found for the appropriate stats which means a level 100 has around the stats of a level 94-95.

Now remember, the rare candied pokemon can always at least benefit from vitamins, and in more games than not, can benefit from raised evs by entering and exiting the PC.
So no. A level 60 pokemon, with full investment in EVERY stat (impossible) is not stronger than a level 100 with no EVs.
This is double, because Level itself is a stat that factors into damage calcs.

>>713793496 (OP)
UH OOOOH

>>713811525
There was never a legitimate method to move from 2 to 3 because they completely overhauled stats and mon generation in nearly every way. All you can do is make imitations..

The 3DS VC versions of the gb games can send mons to Bank and future games from there but even that is just doing the same thing.

>>713793976
Not how that works

>>713812467
yea I get that, I'm just asking if there's a somewhat organic way to generate the missing values in pkhex or something
>The 3DS VC versions of the gb games can send mons to Bank and future games from there
maybe I can look into how that works

>>713810813
What would be the Pokemon equivalent to this?
Still having Pidgeotto and Raticate in your party at the E4?

>>713812967
>Pidgeotto and Raticate
Pidgey and ratata

>>713794683
I don't think anyone ever gave a shit before online battles became a thing

>>713812967
I think, this would be probably most in-line with someone getting shitstomped in gen 3 at Tate and Liza, because they soloed the game to that point with Torchic, in Emerald, and Blaziken suddenly can't handle it alone. But, not soloed the game with Blaziken, in the sense that they have an overlevelled monster, but in the sense that they ran from every wild, and avoided every trainer, so Blaziken is only a little bit above curve.
The rest of their party is like, a Wingul, a Shroomish, a Zigzagoon, a Zubat, and a Tentacool. They have never used a TM.

What the anon that helped them did would be like using the Super Rod outside Mossdeep, adding a Sharpedo to take the gym, and then telling OP they need to go catch and train something or they're going to get raped by the pokemon league, because Blaziken is going to fucking die to Drake and Wallace.
More or less

>>713803042
Assuming you don't have the VS seeker, you memorize a few common pokemon that give a point in the stat you need and farm them. Some pokemon are staples that appear in most games, so some stats are very easy to train. Let's look at Emerald:
>HP
Whismur has the tunnel all to itself
>attack
Poochyena is common from the start
>defense
Geodude is a staple for defense. The Magma hideout lets you also farm Graveler and Torkoal for defense
>special attack
Spinda is very common where it appears. In most games, Gastly is a staple for special attack
>special defense
Tentacool is a staple for special defense
>speed
Magikarp is a staple for speed

>>713803686
Don't act like ev training before XY wasn't the most tedious, sleep inducing chore in the game. It was still time consuming even with a power item + pokerus on a 2-3 EV mon and you had to keep track of your kills, especially for non-252/252 spreads.

>>713814109
Or, if catching the Sharpedo counts as grinding, then this would be pulling the Castform out of the PC, using the Protect TM on Tentacool to abuse the enemy AI, and buying Blaziken enough turns to do it solo

>>713811525
>>713812734
I tried pkhex and trying to open a mon from gen 2 in gen 3, but it gave me pic related. The drive link below shows you how to do it with a different tool.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ILhyYIjArYLimeWEUJvSa0BsCnB5k706MWN2Pa7fA9c/edit?tab=t.0

>>713812467
>The 3DS VC versions of the gb games can send mons to Bank and future games from there but even that is just doing the same thing.

You can clone the same Pokémon in the VC games and all of them will have entirely different IVs when sent to Bank. Nature's based on experience, if memory serves right.

>>713814656
I assumed they'd have fixed stats because they retain shiny status which is tied to PID like IVs are. Never bothered actually looking into it since I stopped playing after ORAS

>>713814523
that's just setting values manually, I could do that of course and pick natures and IVs and such
I was just wondering if there was a more organic way to it based off of IDs or something like the pokebank does (I assume)
>>713814656
I figured that the IV's are just a process of multiplying by 2 since old gens are just 1-15 instead of 31

>>713814814
I assume, because there's a playerside variable for shininess anyways, there's just a flag for if it generated as shiny that is retained, and can translate between games with fundamentally different bones for how the pokemon work.
If nothing else, since HGSS Red Gyarados is a thing, I imagine there's a "force shiny" process in the game somewhere that can be comandeered for the task in the newer games.

>>713814814
>>713815287
>>713815449
Looks like Bulbapedo has the specifics, in any case 3 IVs are guaranteed to be 31 - but it's far more generous to Mew & Celebi with 5. SID is set to 00000

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9_Transporter#From_Generation_I_and_II

>>713793496 (OP)
I will, and it will immediately ruin the game for me.

Pokemon peaked in Gen 2 and it's all been downhill since.

>>713815553
neat info, didn't expect them to have 3 full IVs and hidden abilities, I suppose that was the whole selling point of the virtual console games at the time

>>713816531
trvke

>>713816536
If they didn't force hidden abilities, we would have gotten no guard fissure machamp

>>713804047
>you want the game to just casually hand you a powerful mon early
Yeah, like starters, not my fault the cool looking pokemons are also the strongest

>>713817546
Semi-related but

>check through old Smogon analysis for shits and giggles
>Machamp banned to Ubers in Gen IV
>set provided says "Please don't use Machamp"

How the fuck did it take this long for this nigga to gain relevance?

>>713804047
This has happened in every game since BW2. You can pack a team full of endgame tier pokemon within the first hour of the game.
It's part of the core problem with early route shitmon design from Gen 7 on, in that these pokemon are fundamentally useless, because they have the same availability as actually good pokemon.
It's the gen 1 Pidgey problem, where Spearow is better in every conceivable way, and is available 30 seconds after Pidgey is, except now it's Yungoos or Pikipek or whatever being compared to goddamn Bagon available like 2 minutes later. The shitty eye cheese pig is comparing against Gyarados, Houndour, and the fukkin flamingo

>>713817960
It was just compfags sperging over No Guard Dynamicpunch. UNCOUNTERABLE confusion hax, you see.

>>713817960
that ban is pretty recent, like within the last 6 months
gen 4 OU is a nightmare and jirachi is arguably even worse to deal with than machamp was

>>713817960
latias was unbanned so flunch king jirachi is everywhere, which pairs well with champ to simply ruin your opponent's day

If you're wondering if it's actually jirachi or latias that's the problem then that would be ridiculous because the council wants to fuck them so it can't be their fault

Bagon is shit in the midgame when Sun and Moon are at the most difficult. By the time it evolves into Salamence, the game is practically over.

>>713817960
Don't forget that one autist got snow cloak, and by extension, Frosslass banned

>>713818313
>>713818703
>>713818819
Oh I understand, given the ban on Swagger (and also /vp/ inventing Funbro) ages ago I'm surprised nobody came up with Machamp leads sooner unless the meta died and only got revitalized in recent years or some shit. And historically speaking I'm a little surprised Latias got unbanned when Specsmence used to be a lot more popular early on, but I guess she's more predictable?

>>713818201
Not to mention Gen VI outright hands you ridiculously powerful megas at different points.

>>713819150
Lead Machamp was already infamous during the HGSS era of DPP. Machamp's ban was simply a result of the newer players not wanting to deal with random bullshit in Pokemon of all games.

I only did this with Pokemon red since for whatever reason the max level the Pokemon you fight against is like 40, making it a slog and a half to level up for the elite four.

>>713819150
Latias was unbanned because the game was growing stale, but they completely forgot why Latias was banned in the first place. The game was objectively healthier with the draco spammers gone. The no dragons tournament proved that.

>>713819492
>HGSS era

Well fair enough, I might have tuned out during this time.

>>713819492
Machamp getting banned is just a product of modern smogon reaching into past metas.
They got used to banning literally anything slightly annoying and cultivating a meta instead of playing the meta in front of them, and started applying that to older games.

>>713817960
he dicks down clefable and big stall can't bear to watch anymore

>>713816531
Gen 2 dropped the ball with the anime and failed to keep the Pokemania hype rolling, leading to a 25% loss in sales. GSC are mechanically slow and miserable to play and have some of the most infantile Pokemon designs in the series. But hey, day and night cycle! So comfy!! Oh my god, two regions AND Red??

>>713796294
Gallade or Froslass are both really good

>>713823532
>the most infantile Pokemon designs in the series
>the gen that introduced Steel and Dark types

>>713824216
>the gen filled with fully evolved fat moeblobs like meganium, azumarill, jumpluff, aipom, lanturn, blissey
>introducing useless baby niggermons
>infantile
yep

>>713793694
the game itself told me I beat it, who are you to tell me otherwise?

>>713824216
Sorry, I also didn't mention the most forgettable dex. Which gen are Skarmory and Slugma from again? Gen 3?

>>713824774
We know its you Unova shitter.
Selection was so shit they had to bring back the originals for the sequel.

>>713811525
update on this if anyone cares
this has been a bit of a journey but I managed to use PKSM on my 3DS to do it
it was a pain in the ass for it to read my save files and had to go on a whole other tangent to convert my save files to virtual console 3ds ones (I think it's probably because I'm playing the game in japanese though) but in any case, the program mimicked >>713815553 these parameters and works fine, the IVs are a nice added bonus I suppose

managed to transfer my shiny wigglytuf I got in crystal which is pretty neat and the rest of the team

>>713825162
>unova out of nowhere
kek
enjoying your ban from /vp/ yawnie?

>>713796294
Name it weezer

>>713824613
>>713794106

>>713796294
use glaceon if you want an eevee.
but i'd add magnezone for an electric type

>>713793496 (OP)
>still have to EV train
kek what a bitch

>>713794323
>just edit them in too.
OYYYY VEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY how dare you goy. you have to waste your time grinding away for hours on end. we'll ban your switch for this!

>The Pokémon nerds start talking about EVs and Natures
Yeah, I'll pass on this thread.

>>713824518
>the gen with fully evolved fat moeblobs like wigglytuff, chansey, clefable, vileplume, raichu, dewgong, snorlax

A Rare Candy. I'LL USE IT! NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW!

>>713827909
Lol

>>713824774
>Skarmory and Slugma from again? Gen 3?
Retard

>>713793496 (OP)
you didn't beat the game.

>>713793496 (OP)
I always max out my items/money/BP in Pokemon games. Going to be grim if the next gen releases before the Switch 2 gets any sort of homebrew.

>>713827716
>me entering a Final Fantasy thread
>"DUDE why are you guys talking about Materia stat growths? We should all be talking about how much we wanna fuck Tifa instead"

>>713828446
have sex

Where's the joy in grinding levels?

I'd much rather have enemies with levels scaled to my strongest pokemon.
Why do I have to train my Lv. 40 Swampert to Lv. 60 to take on the Champ and his high Lv. 50s pokemon?
Why not just cut the bullshit and make his team the same Lv. as my number one top guy?

>>713828545
Its relaxing.

>>713828545
should have just ported the pvp mechanics (the lvls of all monsters are set to 50)

>>713827716
>Pokemon get +10% to one stat and -10% to another stat
>You have a limited number of invisible points you can distribute between your stats

Dude Pokemon is like...so hard to understand man...

>>713810341
Early gens have badge boosts, this is more fair than you realize

whats the fucking point of IVs?
it's just bullshit that is entirely out of your control.

>whats that, the pokemon you catched has ONLY 21 speed IV?
>lol, lmao

I dont want to spend half my lifetime breeding for perfect IVs.
at least natures are easily inherited by the mother carrying an everstone and it's only ONE minor dice roll compared to SIX

>>713829661
The game has had bottlecaps that max your IVs for a decade ish basically nobody breeds now unless they want something stupidly specific likea shiny starter in a non-standard ball

>>713828545
why not fight the elite four while in the 40s then

>>713829778
it IS a big problem in all the romhacks I play though.
all trainer pokemons have a PERFECT set of IVs.

my relaxed sceptile with 3 speed IVs is slower than the opposing golem

>>713827908
now tell me the cool johtomons. heracross, typhlosion, tyranitar? fatmons. scizor? downgrade from scyther. houndoom? cool but kanto only

now compare rattata to sentret or hoothoot to pidgey. johtomons are fat blobs meant for merch to little kids. now don't get me started on the actual forgettable mons. stantler, delibird, yanma, shitflora may as well not exist

>>713794683
It served to both make your pokemon feel stronger than random enemy pokemon you encounter, and to make the pokemons stats more customizable for post game/competitive play.
It's actually a fine system, the problem, [articularly in the earlier gens was how much of a fucking grind it was to undo evs and to train them from scratch.
It's much better now that you can do it way faster by just slamming pills into the mon to make it perfect using quickly farmable in game currency.

>>713830056
Just use pkhex honestly. Romhacks have been tryhard shit with every trainer having a full team of fully EV'd mons ever since Kaizo.

>>713793594
Pokemon black 2 allowing me to import a beldum directly at level 5 to be my starter in a mono steel run is another reason on the very long list of reasons that black and white 2 are the best in the franchise

>>713793496 (OP)
Your Pokemon will have no EVs and will be underpowered for their level. Have fun with Cynthia and her max EVs.

>>713830430
I have.
unfortunately, pkhex doesn't support every romhack out there.
it always throws an exception and crashes, like here:
>>713814523

>>713827908
There is a stark contrast between the gen 1 and 2 dexes, particularly the roundess and lack of detail in the Johto designs. Sugimori said in the gen 3 interview that the simpler designs were intentional to make the merch and the anime easier to produce. Denying it is being plain disingenuous.

>>713793496 (OP)
If you're not training all day long you weren't on the road to viridian city anon. The journey to being a pokemon master is what matters. You'll only be cheating yourself

>>713831169
>Sugimori said in the gen 3 interview that the simpler designs were intentional to make the merch and the anime easier to produce
source: my ass

>>713793496 (OP)
Never injected candies, but evolution stones in Johto games? Huhu

>>713831169
There's a stark contrast between all of the dexes. Yes, even 8 and 9.

I only cheat that i can transform pokemon without trade

>>713831505
>inject rare candies to deal with the shitty level curve
>inject evolution stones to deal with the shitty item distribution
>inject larvitar and houndour eggs to deal with the shitty pokemon distribution
this is the only way to make johturd games playable

>>713831491
>>713831556
apologize

>>713828545
>Why do I have to
You literally don't.

>>713832561
>not portrayed: the lvl 70 blaziken
sure thing, pal

>>713824518

>>713793496 (OP)
I used to dupe rare candies to train mons for pokemon stadium or to maybe give me access to a stupid to acquire interesting mon for a run. Nothing op, maybe like a specific fossil mon but only when I get access to when I'd normally be able to get a dif fossil mon.
Whats the point in even cheating in sp pokemon? The games almost beat themselves.

>>713830136
Anyone who doesnt like Heracross isn't a true Pokemon fan.
Didn't read the rest.

>>713832694
Had to dig through a couple of /vp/ team threads for it but this was actually my team heading into the E4.
Don't remember if it was before or after Victory Road but you get the idea.

>>713833513
>another fucking 8) face
i hate j*htoniggers

post porn where rare candy overdose turns trainers and pokemon into hot babes

>>713832561
Not shown: 3+ dragon dances on Skarmory

>>713796294
Bidoof