Thread 713795423

They updated the images on the VTMB2 website to not use the lame haircut anymore. And it looks like the costumes have had another art pass. It is a bit weird how Phyre always had prominent breasts in some outfits, but looked flat as a board in others.

>still looks worse than oblivion remastered
just scrape it

>>713795423 (OP)
This shit still exists?
>>713795768
>scrap it
I genuinely thought it was

>>713795423 (OP)
Meanwhile the 20 year old game

Huh, the new face is actually super different. It's not just the haircut. The cheekbones are totally different.

>looks even more androgynous now
t-thanks

>>713795423 (OP)
>RPG with set characters in a franchise known for their customizable personal player characters
Man, JRPGs are making a comeback, huh?

I'm actually surprised more people didn't notice that Phyre looks super different in the 2025 screenshots/trailer clips vs 2024. They've clearly redesigned her face. Someone who understands face anatomy can probably pinpoint what changed.

>>713797986
Nobody cares about this gane and we just wait for it to come out and be forgotten so shills can stop reminding us.

>>713795954
What am I meant to be seeing here?

>>713795939
>This shit still exists?
Releasing in 4 months. It's in the final stages of polish.

>>713797878
>in a franchise known for their customizable personal player characters
What do you mean? VTMB never had customizable characters.

>>713795423 (OP)
Why are shitlibs so obsessed with given women men's haircuts? All the troons I see in RL have female haircuts and honestly dress more feminine than most women around them so what it's for dykes then?

>>713798192
susan

>>713798368
in video games it's just easier to model and animate short hair

>>713798163
I feel like the Cyberpunk 2077 of vampire games is going to generate some discourse for a while. They're gonna sink a shitload of marketing money into this thing. That's one of the reasons why they're holding back the big promotional splash.

>>713798598
Maybe but there's female short haircuts. Giving them a fade and an quiff just screams dyke rather than inept developers.

>>713795423 (OP)
>>713797986
Yeah and they made Male Phyre significanctly uglier for some reason.

>>713798368
The cast seem to have pretty typical haircuts.

>>713795954
I liked her shitty poem.
I wish you could still interact and talk with npcs like Gary Golden and Velvet once their quests are completed

>>713799107
He looks okay to me.

Genuinely cant think of a more mismanaged franchise

>>713799923
The franchise is hamstrung by the tabletop taking precedence and dictating terms to videogames. For example, why can't Nosferatu in VTMB2 look the way they did in Bloodlines 1? Because that's not how they look in the tabletop now.

>>713799107
he looks ok

>>713800101
I was including the tabletop in my statement. The writers should cause another international incident, that would be funny.

>>713795423 (OP)
woke thrash

>>713800485
What is woke about it?

>>713795954
god i want to put my kine cock between her toreador tatas so bad

>>713795423 (OP)
>mullet
Which century is the game supposed to be set?

uhh where is Mitsoda?

>>713795423 (OP)
K.
Not going to play it.

>>713798598
RIP TressFX

>>713801018
Nuked from orbit. In the words of Dan Pinchbeck, "We won't finish another studio's work."

>>713800159
"Ok" in the same way a plain rice cake is "edible." He's not offensively bad-looking, but they definitely scrubbed any edge or charm off the OG design. Feels like they were aiming for “inoffensive default male protagonist” and landed somewhere between a barista and a substitute science teacher.

How bad at art do you have to be to fuck up a female goth?

>>713798694
They aren't going to do a promotional push, actually. Paradox already said they regret the project and won't be doing a sequel or any other RPG games again. They are going to just drop this and take the tax writeoff.

>>713795423 (OP)
still looks more lame ass than a crippled donkey

Can't wait for the release

>>713799626
typical in this case is better than overdesigned modern garbage you'd see in any other title like this

Bloodlines 2 was originally being made as a form of soft disclosure by certain elements within the Camarilla. The plot was quickly discovered, and the game has since been sabotaged into the most unappealing version of itself possible, so that any remaining resemblances to real vampire culture will be missed by the majority of consumers.

>>713802152
>They aren't going to do a promotional push, actually.
Yes, they are.
>Paradox already said they regret the project
No, they didn't.
>and won't be doing a sequel or any other RPG games again.
Yea, because they prefer live service stuff. Any future entries will be licensed out.
>They are going to just drop this and take the tax writeoff.\
That isn't how tax writeoffs work. We are talking about a very expensive videogame here. Paradox have sunk a lot of money into it. They had initially wanted TCR to shit out something in 2 years. Eventually decided to give them 4-5 years instead. This is one of the most important RPG releases of the decade. People on /v/ talk like it's some kind of low budget side project. Paradox are confident that the game will recoup their investment because they've played the thing and think it's going to be amazingly received. Then again, they're Paradox, and could be completely delusional.

>>713800869
wake up anon mullets have been back for like a decade already

>>713800761
If you were to become a kindred, then all your sexual impulses would be gone and you would've only crave blood.

>>713795423 (OP)
A better looking tranny still a tranny

>>713802743
>Sucks to be a Bloodlines fan atm
it has ALWAYS sucked (haha) to be a Bloodlines fan and it always will

>>713797986
Looks less like a miserable dyke I guess

>>713803179
vampires still have sex especially if they're high humanity. it's not better than blood but they're not completely asexual either.

>>713803179
>you would become a bloodthirsty monster overnight that only craves blood and nothing else
this is fucking stupid

>>713803179
I don't believe that is accurate, if I recall the desire to suck blood is just much more desirable and enjoyable then regular climax. You do require blush of life to get it up or moisten yourself though.

>>713803425
>You do require blush of life to get it up or moisten yourself though.
what about penis pumps and lube

>>713797986
hair obviously
eyebrows look less painted on
eyes lightened and made less sanpaku-esque, slightly wider and narrower
neck tats
slightly less prominent jaw
skin tighter on her skull for better "gaunt corpse" look

>>713803480
Well the first is just thrusting once you've sent blood to your phallus and the lube is for the girl vampire to do.

when they revealed that you have a voice in your head companion that's permanently stuck with you for the whole game my interest died completely
i hate this chatty companion shit so fucking much. I can't tolerate it and there is no way to avoid it as the game's story is seemingly build around the voice in your head

>>713803323
They literally require blood to spend to get it up. They only do it as a part of scheming.

>>713802258
>What's up? How goes it?

>>713803952
but everyone loved Cyber Dragon 2077: Veilpunk

Still awake? Something on your mind? Or just lonely? Give me a call /v/. 323-KL5-KTRK. Taking the call of a lucky number right now...

> Phyre
Instaskip.

>>713795423 (OP)
It stiil looks like ass. I still wont buy it.

>>713802332

That picture is hilarious.

Were they all hesitant because the target wasn't just some random nobody this time? He was rich and probably had bodyguards/security so they all tried to pass the buck.

>>713804079
everything they do requires blood and it's still less costly for the higher humanity ones. higher humanity means you function physically more like a human instead of the typical vampire that can't eat and all that.

>>713804326

Deb was a Nosferatu.

>omgggg they changed teh haircut this must be related to my culture war!!!!!!! WE'RE WINNAR BROS!!!!!
>>713798192
Some zero standard faggot soijakking over bad animations and lip sync.

>>713804612
perhaps you should blind yourself if you are so deeply offending by visuals

>>713804562
For a kine nothing can compare with blood. Sex is just a means to an end.

>>713804079
>they only do it as a part of scheming
Often that is the case but sometimes it is genuinely passion which is usually found with the younger vamps or actual utter love which is found with those who blood bond with one another. (I am not certain blood bond is the actual term for what I am speaking about but it is the closest to it without knowing the real word, essentially think two souls who are wholly devoted to another. I believe if one dies then so does the other but do not quote me on that, I am happy to be corrected.)

>>713804834
we aren't all the same

>>713804889
Shut up, you're only saying this because you're a fucking toreador. Next you'll be bullshitting me about muh arts and muh aesthetics.

>>713804834
If I find handholding far more enjoyable then hugging that does not mean hugging disappears from my life. I understand that is a rather bad comparison but my point is that sex for kine does not just become a tool, it is used that way by many but it is not relegated as such naturally.

>>713803545
>hair obviously
Hair was always customizable, to be fair. But there's been no indication that facial structure can be customized.

>>713805025
Begone, toreador.

>>713805025
*kindred

>>713804585
Oh, brother. Riiight, of course, I'm a vampire. You can't throw a rock in this city without hitting a vampire.

>>713795423 (OP)
nose looss like a jew

>>713803952
A lot remains to be seen. Fabien was rewritten in 2024 -> 2025 delay. That's why he's a Malkavian now.

>>713802743
>completely delusional
>This is one of the most important RPG releases of the decade.
Yeah....

There are people still looking forward to this abomination of a game?

>>713805234
Cain, how gay can a kindred be...

>>713795423 (OP)
>Still no release date
C'mon.
I just want to have a good laugh because there is no way this game will be even decent.

>>713805435
https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Camilla

>>713797986
Certainly looks better now

>>713804612
People turning it into a culture war are being dumbasses, but I think the main character being redesigned to this extent indicates a certain level of chaos behind the scenes. There's a lack of consistent messaging. A lot of confusion about basic elements of the game, its plot, its design, its characters, etc. The big marketing wave in the leadup to release has to be dramatically better than what they've done so far in terms of communicating a clear notion.

>>713805249
The game is a huge deal in the RPG space, but it's hard to tell whether Paradox would know if they had gold on their hands. Then again, they had the clarity of mind to realize Hardsuit's game was abysmal dogshit, leading to its cancellation (lighting tens of millions of dollars on fire), so maybe there is hope after all.

>>713800869
The MC is 400 years old

It says "verification not require d" but I want to solve captcha! I want it! Let me do it!

Characters looking like shit is the least of the games problems

>>713803356
>nooo I need to cooooooom
Get fucked, cumbrain.

>>713804784
>if you are so deeply offending
Can you try learning basic English before trying to reply?

>>713805538
>>Still no release date
Release date is October. Release month was announced three months ago. The game is finished, and in final polishing phase. The rewrites are done, which is why the lead writer left the studio last week.

>>713806073
Spend it wisely.

>>713806080
>>still no release date
Why do people keep saying this? The release is October. The art book is already up for pre-order. The game is complete. It was submitted to the ESRB and rated already. They have said over and over that the game is releasing in October. The spooky month.

>>713803323
Entire vampire sexuality in Masquerade is just a gimme to degenerate players. More specifically the LARP scene. Blood is everything. If you get down to it "sex" is just a way to get your prey away from everyone else so you can feed.

>>713806241
Do you even watch the developer videos?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzc1Ow18qhY

>>713806342
>no exact release date

>>713806583
>Bloodlines 2 will launch in October 2025 when the game meets the technical quality standards that you, our fans, rightfully expect and deserve. Please stay tuned for the game’s exact launch date.
Yea, it's going to get delayed. Again.

>>713806539
>there are degenerates who want to do vampire sex
>there is no way any vampires in wod would be any of these degenerates
It is well established that Vampires can and do fuck each other, if you want to play with the reasons then fine but to say it is purely a performance is ridiculous.
Wasn't there a gangrel girl who actually fucked dogs? Tell me what masterful political manoeuvre that was?

>>713795423 (OP)
>>713797986
>>713802201
Yknow what, I actually dig it. It's late, it should never have been that awful but fuck it, I respect them sincerely trying and not putting side shaved antedeluvian retard mongrel haircuts and them going for something an awful lot more classic and respectable. Its bad that it happened like this but even if the game won't end up amazing, I will sincerely respect them trying and taking the feedback to make it look more like an ancient vampire than some teenage rally girl who got bit by some shitstain like 5 hours ago and robbed a really posh goodwill.

Kinda kino design, solid 7. Pearls, red streak compliment and gold do a lot of lifting but I can respect it.

>>713806940
what part of "catering to degenerate players" confuses you?

>>713806073
you should definitely blind yourslef if typos sned you into a seething rage

>>713806814
>Yea, it's going to get delayed. Again.
Delayed to do what exactly? The entire reason it was delayed from June to October was to work on optimization and polish. What more can they do to the game at this point? It's finished.

>>713807014
It's good that they've listened to feedback, but it always raises the question of how they got to this place, and what implications that might have for the game as a whole.

>>713807041
The part where you followed that up with "Blood is everything" and "sex is just a way to get your prey". So what is it? Does the setting cater to sex addicts or is blood "everything"? You are being contradicting.

There's no way people can look at the gameplay teasers that have already been released for this game and tell me it doesn't look like shit. They HAVE to be paid shills or delusional, I can't believe otherwise. Half of the clans aren't even going to be playable in the goddamn game.

>>713795423 (OP)
The new hair and face do look better. Did they drop the male protag?

>>713807485
?

>>713807014
>I respect them sincerely
>I will sincerely respect them
>I can respect it
For Caine's sake they are fag developers who are desperately trying to unfuck what either they or their fag predecessors have fucked up, stop treating them like they are doing any of this except out of necessity so the bomb isn't as bad.

>>713807438
>There's no way people can look at the gameplay teasers that have already been released for this game and tell me it doesn't look like shit.
You'll have to be more specific. Explain what teasers you think look bad, and why.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_MkfKk7gFU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRqWPYYIUbU
https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/games/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2/news/dev-diary-advanced-combat-and-weapons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNzggacI-EU
https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/games/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2/news/dev-diary-the-masquerade-of-seattle

>>713807438
The thing is, everything they've shown looks worlds better than the original Bloodlines and the Hardsuit version of Bloodlines 2.

>>713807568
No, but he looks slightly redesigned compared to older footage.
>>713807485
>No Ventrue
What? No?

>>713807710
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNzggacI-EU
>Hunter *teleports behind you* and kills you instantly the second you break the masquerade
Holy kek

I'm gonna be honest
The IP is better off dead its cursed and it's destroyed nearly everything it's touched

>>713807573
>>713807871
Oh sorry I meant Toreador

>>713808109
Oh lord

>>713795423 (OP)
Game needs to be canceled desu

>>713808109
>*Teleports Behind You*
>Nothing personnel kid

>>713807710
Buy an ad

Can American anons explain why your games change so much depending on who the president is?

>>713807710
>replied with this within minutes
how much are they paying you

>>713807357
I assume the leadership of studios like these are considered to be somewhat subpar.
>>713807706
While you're right, I can try and hope for the best with some level of trepidation. Even if it is by the sheer nature of it not bombing, I can be happy they're trying and are executing it.

>>713809292
its a British game and Swedish publisher

>>713795423 (OP)
It's gonna be shit.
I wish it wasn't; I wish it was good, and a worthy successor to Bloodlines.
Instead it'll be a mediocre 15 hour 3D VN adventure with paltry, half-baked mechanics, poor dialogue and voice acting, and a ridiculous story. Why even call it Bloodlines at this point besides an insulting cashgrab with a known name?

>>713795423 (OP)
Just phyre everyone involved in this abomination

>>713809908
You forgot this.

>>713799626
uh oh the Christina Hendricks vampire lady's tits shrunk and her face looks younger too... what a shame

>>713806583
Is Longthorne a good writer? I don't think I've ever heard her name

>>713795954
Why is it not on console

>>713803265
Still a dyke just hot now

>>713804612
>>713806073
Oh look this desperate fag again.

>>713795423 (OP)
Not good enough.

>>713795423 (OP)

Vampires keep the hair they had when changed. The old ones should all have medieval or styles from the 1800s or similar. Only the newest vamps would have a dyke haircut.

>>713808109
no fucking way KEK

I still want the Hardsuit Labs version.

>>713811050
They can still style it, it just resets to how it looked when they were turned every night and it doesn't grow any longer

>>713809528
>hope for the best

>>713811050
Do they supernaturally keep the same hair or does it just stop growing

>>713798368
because
>heterosexual male gaze bad
>female gaze/gay male gaze good

How many times has this games development been all sorts of fucked? Hell White Wolf is probably the most infamously retarded /tg/ company of all time alone

>>713811182

Oh no doubt but these very modernist looks are silly. Those were not more common till the 1920s and the hyper girlboss lesbian look is maybe 20 years old at max.

Bring back vampire waifus with long hair. Asian ghost vampires w/ hime cuts. Male vampires with medieval top knots and shaved sides. Etc.

Without this autism met, can it truly be sovl?

>>713811239

Whatever state they are in when they turn, that is what they keep. Outside of flesh crafting or magick.

They can cut their hair and put make up on etc but when they go to bed, it grows back.

>>713811402
Since 2019

>>713811402

Too many times. WoD like DND was always full of outliers / sweat lords and sexual deviants. The guys running everything were usually /tg/ esque guys though.

Now a bunch of trannies, rainbow flags and more run the games and ruin them. New WoD will be a major, money wasting flop.

>>713805710
You are correct, but "culture war" being used as this buzzword to paint any observations of trends like that as somehow bad is just retarded. I wouldn't even dignify the term in their use of it.
There ARE trends going on and companies ARE guaging peoples reactions, and changing things in accordance, that's not controversial as much as fags who want to accuse you of being in a "culture war" for noticing and caring at all, want to pretend. Don't even dignify his nonsense. As far as he's concerned if you like gaming "YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO DO UH CULTUR WOORRRR". I don't know how that guy got out of 2021 with that nonsense.

>>713811737

The culture war thing would not even matter if they just made it an optional part of the experience.

Bloodlines had a crazy commie Brujah girl and she...just fit. She was completely fine as a character because Brujahs run the gambit of wild, rebellious causes.

Better stories and fleshed out characters solves it all. The problem comes when the people developing the game jump up on a soapbox and begin to virtue signal their game as an answer to: insert modern social issue.

No one would care if there is a super fairy gay vampire guy, as long as he is written good. Some grungy Gangrel girl who dresses like a man? No one would care.

>>713811535
One of the gnarliest things I remember from an old splatbook was describing how a Tzimisce fleshcrafted a blank sheet of flesh and bone over some poor fuck's face before turning them, so now every night they have to chisel out holes in their face to be able to function

>>713799923
that's what happens when you have a franchise that's about making fun of a particular group of people who aren't in on the joke and take it over thinking that it's not ironic

>>713812058
The nice thing about them is that you can just ignore them. The last run I did, I just told Nines that he's a fag and that was the end of it. Him and the bitch showed up later but I'm not sure if that was part of the plus patch or not.
Point is, it's good to have the options, as long as they aren't forced down your throat, and shit isn't preachy either, but that is something lost on modern devs.

>>713808109
No, you have to aggressively and persistently break the masquerade.

>>713812318

Br00tal. Tzimisce all deserve the torch.

Reading the lore for the Giovanni was spooki. Some truly fucked up incestuous mafia necromancers lol. RIP Cappadocius ; o ;. I'll never forget Serena.

>>713810463
Unknown.

>>713812318
That's a good one

>>713808109
The screenshot literally explains how masquerade works. >>713807710

>>713813072

When I did the quest where you go to the house in the hills and hear a swarm of flies inside scared the sh*t out of me when I was 14 lol.

The tunnels were the worst part of the game next to the end game but the lead up was kino.

>>713812318
if that happened to me I'd just lay on the ground and wait for morning

>>713795954
i fucking love vv voice

>>713813218
>the szlachta breaking through the doors

>>713813698

Nope.jpg. Also first time you find the human leg spider things. Really wish they did not rush the last half of the game. There was so much sovl to that point.

Finding that one rare bloodline that has to eat human flesh at the bottom of the ghost hunter dude's house was amazing.

>>713807143
>incoherent schizobabble continues

>>713807438
VTMB1 had absolute dogshit gameplay too yet /v/ worships it.

>>713795423 (OP)
Are there still only a few clans?

>>713805710
part of the problem is the last US election dealt a major blow to wokeness as a cultural thing, normies are getting sick of it so it's harder for dangerhairs to justify it to the bean counters who don't care about the culture war and just need [thing] to make money.

>>713812058
that's because it's not about "inclusion" it's specifically about removing anything that straight white men would like.

>>713814158
it wasn't that bad. most of the people complaining did stuff like not put points into combat stats and just button mashed the entire time then went and complained the game sucks when the tutorial tells you not to do those things.

>>713814371
only 4 playable at launch from what I've last read, pretty meh... no Nos and no Malk either
only forgivable if the choice really matters more than some flavour text here and there

Wow, they really removed any dynamic energy from the pose

>>713797986
Jesus, that's an improvement

>>713817950
It matters in the sense that gameplay style is completely locked to clan lmao

>>713795954
Looks like shit.

>>713797986
>>713797106
>>713795423 (OP)
Please die shills. This game sucks and will NOT do good. Die a violent death.

>you WILL play as an androgynous woman
no I won't, I'll just replay the original while retards get baited and waste their money

>>713822976
You can play as a man thoughbeitever

>>713823301
It's not a man retard. It's still the dyke but with facial hair added lmao. It's dogshit. Doesn't even remotely look like a dude.

>>713823301
>thoughbeitever

>>713824764
>this is a woman
If you say so.

>>713825556
no that's a body type 1

what haunted pussy blue hair cunt with razor blade scars decided to name the character phyre

I've said it before, the RoboCop: Rogue City devs should've taken over. The small maps are the closest a game has reminded me of VTMB, and the light RPG elements show potential

>>713807014
>I respect them sincerely trying and not putting side shaved antedeluvian retard mongrel haircuts
...They did. Thats exactly what they did. Then they saw what a colossal flop they had on their hands (to where their own publisher has publicly admitted it won't be working with them again), and are now frantically trying to backpedal for sales.

You shouldn't need your fans to hold your hand through your retarded unappealing decisions and you shouldn't start listening to them after it's too late to meaningfully change anything. That's the sign of a zealot and a coward.

They made a woke game for the modern audience and now they're trying to hack out some of the more superficial aspects to trick retards into giving them money. They're all gonna lose their jobs lol

>>713795423 (OP)
Still looks worse than a Source Engine era game

>>713825548
It's an /int/ meme, some mexican would spam soijaks at anyone who ended a sentence with "though" for some reason.

cant believe they actually hired shills for this dumpsterfire