>>713890621 (OP)
Preach brudah

The slop drama is carrying this way harder than I thought it would. I really hope it isn't too little too late...

Not my problem, not gonna sign.

>>713891869
>thinking the lolcow content mill will stop
Sloptubers are powerful, but Jershua Moon, well...

So, we like video games now?

>>713891869
ROOKIE NUMBERS
PUMP THAT SHIT UP
MORE
MORE!

>>713890621 (OP)
Inshallah brother, may there be many dead ubijews

>>713891934
>t.

>>713892013
I like video games, but I also like the idea of a company being forced to so whatever I want, and the idea of an annoying smug furfag to be BTFOd.
Signing is literally a win-win-win.

Jason won and Petiton will never get to 1 million votes . Keep coping

>>713892132
>everyone that supported maldie gave up so he has to hire literally indian shills to make up for it

>>713892013
we hate video games but SKG makes corporations seethe so we support it

>>713892235
Weirdly fitting statement considering that the single person playing defense for maldavious is an enlightened centrist using ChatGPT to reply to comments lmoa.

>>713890621 (OP)
ragheads arent funny

>>713892316
This, it upsets greedy fat fucks, so that's good reason to support it

whats the 1m signature cut off date?

>>713892679
31st of next month

>>713892679
32 days

>>713892679
july 31st iirc

>>713891869
>20k a day
holy shit

>>713892732
>>713892735
>>713892773
hope euro bros get it

>>713891869
funny that the roach has done more to boost this movement than anyone else at this point. probably the first time in his life he's been useful for something other than making coffee at blizzard

Update! We have reached 20k, and Sweden has prestiged, by reaching a beautiful 208% of the total required signatures. Finland quickly approaches their second prestige, as they sit at nearly 250%.

>>713892792
not enough. i want the threshold to be DESTROYED, not barely reach it last minute

>>713890621 (OP)
I swear this nigga rice pirate nation is gonna get stabbed one day.

>>713890621 (OP)
>>713891869
>>713892862
personal ads are allowed now?

>>713892910
>rice pirate
How dare you bring up Rice Pirate's name in the same sentence as that scum.

>>713891869
>still 400k short with a month to go
I'm not too optimistic desu, but is there a way this succeeds even if the petition fails? It seems like it stirred enough attention in the past few days that perhaps someone with power might legally tackle it on their own

Jewshua Conman Troon stopped being a brain damaged shota loving faggot for exactly one day, God bless.

>>713890621 (OP)
>>713891869
I'll inform my fellow immigrant gamer friends residing in the EU to sign. We will win this battle inshallah
I'm doing my part alhamdulilah

>>713892938
4chan is one of the few websites I don't block ads on because you see some crazy shit.

>>713892938
>Anti-SKGs get tranny ads
Well, I suppose we know the ad targeting software works now.

>that power gap between Ireland and Spain

>>713892021
your pic doesnt affect me personally either

>>713892938
>decimate your fapping addiction by castrating yourself
I mean, that's one way I guess

>>713893084
You
are
a
nigger

>>713890621 (OP)
>Governments funded Dustborn
>/v/ decides to give governments even more power over gaming
Enjoy your slop, that's all you're gonna get in the future

>>713893132
Don't worry sister, you'll find yourself one day.

I will own everything and I will be happy

>>713892862
Great. This pace needs to keep up for the next 2 weeks otherwise it's fucked.

>>713893089
The overwhelming majority of coverage is English-only. You'd need to shill the initiative to Spanish youtubers.

>>713891869
I doubt we'll get enough, even with the current speed it's just not enough

Literally need a consistent 2k signatures per day to make it.
It's over.

>>713893194
>Governments funded Dustborn
Literally anyone can request an art grant from the government if they're making works of art (Vidya counts) within the EU moron. Even if the work fucking sucks. Plus, Dustborn received Norwegian oil money.

>>713893220
Ireland is the only native English speaking cunt if you look at all the countries that score higher

Retarded doomfags.

Where can I see the percentage by country again?

>>713893323
>Ireland
>native English speaking

>mfw Greece and Cyprus
NOT
MY
PROBLEM

>>713893274
https://youtu.be/NKOSKVQ8JY0

>>713893407
Every Irishman is fluent in English or else they couldn't participate with the rest of the planet with their fairy tale language

>>713893407
Dude even the IRA spoke English all the time, in fact i doubt the vast majority of the Irish can speak more than a phrase in Gaelic.

>>713893407
Bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk

>>713893285
Ask them for money to make a game about white people kicking browns, jews and faggots out of their country. See how well that goes.
Enjoy your Dustborns!

>>713893274

>>713893407
I'm sorry anon, Eire lost their chance for nationalism and Hebrew style language revival once they became the globohomo used cumshot for American gigacorpos to dodge taxes.

>>713893597
3 IQ post.

>>713893587
Pwee! Little wind piped wee.
True men. Lid Ker Cow De and Doll. Ay, ay. Like you men. Will lift your tschink with tschunk.
Fff! Oo!
Where bronze from anear? Where gold from afar? Where hoofs?
Rrrpr. Kraa. Kraandl.
Then not till then. My eppripfftaph. Be pfrwritt.
Done.

From now on, I will post this in every SKG thread I come across

>>713893194
Norway isn't in the EU.

>>713893762
Don't look at me, I made my whole extended family sign and have handed out fliers as well as posted them in my university corkboards.

>>713893762
Me and my brothers did our part

>>713890621 (OP)
Nothing will happen
Nothing ever happens
Games will keep being killed

>>713893762
why should i care when i pirate all my games anyway

>>713893938
cope

>>713893265
>20k a day
>10 days is 200k
>20 days is 400k
>We have 30 more days to go
Baka anon is baka

>>713893993
There will be more games available to pirate and it'll be easier than ever to crack them.

>>713893889
>>713893902
You guys are alright.

>>713893993
Your pasta will be gone by tomorrow.

>>713893993
Puoi direttamente punire Ubisoft :)

>>713893902
Just brothers?
Why not your parents? Cousins? Uncles and aunties? All your friends? Colleagues?
Gogogogogogogogogogogo

Dumb doomers. These initiatives speed up the closer they get to the deadline and it's already outpacing the necessary amount of signatures per day to pass the 1m threshold.

>>713894086
i dont speak italian, i moved here from morroco

Señor, the first español sloptuber has hit the recommended feed.
>>713894000
Trips of truth.

Did anything ever come out of the UK?

>>713893993
If corpos are forced to make games work forever if they want to do business with EU, then they're forced to modify Diablo 4 and other similar live-service crap to work offline or on private servers.

I don't think there's 1,000,000 people in the EU guys, it might be over

Hope it was worth it.

>>713894169
Kek of course you did, you're not a citizen so you couldn't sign anyway. Not exactly a big loss.

>>713893323
Don't know about other countries but Germany is full of immigrants. A lot of them speak English.

>>713893993
Even more games will be easy to pirate if this passes.

>In the 2010s advocating for ourselves as consumers was a forgone conclusion, people had varying levels of commitment and success, but it was a general understanding that we ALL should stop buying MTX, lootboxes, and preordering
Now?
>Consumer advocacy is cringe, buy up, shut up, and let your games die, goy
God I miss totalbiscuit so fucking much, he was the driving force behind all of this shit.

>>713894238
it's not over til it's over

>>713894238
Already outpacing the 27th's amount hour by hour doomtranny.

I SHALL keep killing games.
I SHALL destroy the servers and delete the source code the moment I choose to stop working on the game.
I SHALL have you arrested and fined for the rest of your life if you try to create your own servers.

>>713893684
>A-anyone can ask EU for funding
>As long as they hate white people of course
>Let's give even more power to the EU because I'm a faggot who really, really liked Dustborn!

>>713893993
20 years ago, it was standard for all multiplayer games to have dedicated servers. you could host them locally and play them without the dev's permission. now, almost every single new multiplayer game is 100% run by the company themselves. if they shut down their servers, it's game over. you don't think that in another 20 years time, they won't come for singleplayer games too without user rights pushback? it'll be standard for all games to require dev servers to work. you won't be able to pirate shit.

>>713894364
The only thing you SHALL do is be a gay furry and claim to be an actual game dev, Jason.

It ain't over 'til the mold man sings.

>bro just force companies to spend extra money, time and effort to keep their games alive
>that will have no impact on small developers at all
>its for the good of gaming dude, dont you want to play The Crew 1?????

>>713894403
You had a correct first line then you just made up shit for the next two.
>More power
Why do retards always come to this conclusion? The power doesn't grow or lessen. That's not how any of this works

>>713893860
Dustborn was funded by EU as well as Norway. As if that matters, the EU government, US government, Norwegian government, Swizz etc. are all the same fucking shit. And you want to give them more power over gaming because you couldn't stop fapping when the game called white people bigots.

>>713894446
>keep their games alive
they don't have to do that

>>713892013
only gacha games

>the saars are seething mad
Good sign, did another video hit?

>>713894504
If you honestly think that the EU would fund a game with the reverse political message of Dustborn then you are out of your mind

>>713894446
not my problem
get to work wagie
i own what i buy and YOU are going to fix it all for ME.

>>713894531
Based, communist troons in Europe want to ruin our games. I hope Trump slaps them with another round of tarrifs

>>713893098
enough to reply

>>713894504
Once they start regulating games and game development they will keep on regulating, tard.

>>713891869
praise allah

>>713894608
You're not smart enough to understand what you're talking about.

>>713887452
>matchmaking logic
This isn't needed to play online.
>all online infrastructure
Robust servers are only needed if you aim to handle a robust number of people on stable connections. You can sacrifice all of this and just leave it as some variant of peer to peer instead. And then the hardware of the players will be the bottleneck, and maybe that'll play like shit or maybe it'll work if they've got decent hardware. But that's none of your concern.

>>713894446
Can we stop acting like keeping a half rack powered on in the corner of some basement is some debilitating cost especially for the likes of EA/Sony

>>713893993
will get easier to pirate

>>713894621
>u want to play 15 year old game
not my problem
get a job

>>713894446
>Developers will simply have to allow for sever browsing and local multiplayer again
Truly horrific.

>>713894714
You are not smart enough to understand that there are always requirements to fulfill and checkboxes to tick when you ask for funding, and the same with regulations only instead of not getting funded you don't get fined.

>>713894446
>spend extra money, time and effort to keep their games alive
yeah man, hosting SDK for a game is so costly and time consuming

By the way, nothing is stopping devs of live service games from making offline versions of the game. You can even sell them like Mega Man X Dive, to make money.

>>713894313
Even if a corpo were to clone an indie product, they'd fill it with their slop and make it shit. So people would just end up buying indie games anyway.

In any case I'm not even arguing for abolishing copyright laws, so I have no idea who you're arguing against.
I'm just saying I'm in favour of returning the duration of copyrights back to 14+14 years, or even half of that if possible.

>>713894449
>invent a straw man argument
>shit talk the fake argument
Hello, RatSoftware!

>>713892941
I would sign but I have no passport and ID is expired. désolé

>>713890621 (OP)
“If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. Its peculiar character, too, is that no one possesses the less, because every other possesses the whole of it. He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. That ideas should freely spread from one to another over the globe, for the moral and mutual instruction of man, and improvement of his condition, seems to have been peculiarly and benevolently designed by nature, when she made them, like fire, expansible over all space, without lessening their density in any point, and like the air in which we breathe, move, and have our physical being, incapable of confinement or exclusive appropriation. Inventions then cannot, in nature, be a subject of property.”

— Thomas Jefferson

>>713894873
Figured you'd prove my point.

>>713894885
publishers are terrified of people sticking to the previous games instead of buying the latest slop.
the online only kill switch is how they want to keep the scam going forever

>>713894934
just say "ideas are non-excludable and non-rivalrous so treating them like private property is retarded"
there's your tl;dr

>>713894446
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU SHOULDN'T OWN WHAT YOU BUY STOOOOOOOOOPPPP

>>713894929
You can use an expired ID in most countries. They're just asking you for your personal ID number (not the ID number of your ID card) and full name. Or in some cases address too.

An expired ID doesn't mean you've lost citizenship and right to vote.

>>713891934
It's for white people anyway

>>713894815
thats not even what its about. give people the ability to host their own servers or make the games work offline

>>713895001
I mean, Capcom made Mega Man X Dive offline, Nintendo made Animal Crossing Pocket Camp Complete, both offline, paid versions of the full GaaS you can transfer data to.

>>713893407
Yes you’re, you’re part of the British isles cope more paddy

>>713893993
Quit being a niggarini and do your part already. Otherwise you're getting slapped with several slices of pineapple pizza until you learn.

>>713894504
>The power doesn't grow or lessen. That's not how any of this works
you need to be 18 to post here

>>713894929

>>713895035
Tommy did not say the r-word

Qrd? i don't watch jewtube and this is like the 3rd thread I've seen the past few days

>>713895162
>you need to be 18 to post here
Are you reminding yourself of that? Tell me, how exactly does the European Union "gain more power" by regulating video games? Them gaining more power implies that before this happened they couldn't just decide at any time to hold a vote and say
>Actually yeah this is gay, keep games playable.
Because they could. Easily.

>>713895193
EU bootlicking commies hate free market

>>713895193
If you buy a game like Darkspore after this passes, you'll be able to play it forever instead of at the mercy of EA.

>>713895247
more laws is by definition more power yuropoor

>>713895193
read the faq

>>713893762
if only we had some italian eceleb drama

>>713895193
https://www.stopkillinggames.com/faq

>>713895193
Faggots think the government is on their side when the government is the reason we are in this situation to begin with. I guess they simply liked Dustborn so much that they want more government control over gaming.

DEAD GAMES FOR THE DEAD GAMES GOD

>>713895193
consumer rights and ownership of games. companies cannot just arbitrary shut down games people bought without an end of life plan. if you're a euro, go sign the initiative and get your family to sign it too.

>>713895193
I want more games like Dustborn.

>>713892082
Kike type post

>>713895193
It’s a consumer initiative that demands that when publishers disconnect servers, they should provide a way for games to remain playable in the cases where they're sold as a product (for example, Diablo 4)

Some furry narcissistic sociopath (yt: PirateSoftware) has created a video with a bunch of false information, shitting on the campaign 10 months ago. This effectively killed the momentum of the arriving signatures and it stopped at 350k/1000k and only rose up to 450k in the next 8 months.
Now the leader of the campaign has responded and explained how the furry is wrong, so people are signing again and spreading the word.

tldr: Sign it if you're in EU or UK, or spread the word around if you want video games to be preserved like any videogame released before 2010 is.

>>713895378
More laws is by definition.... More laws. Otherwise you're arguing that the government whose criminal law is structured like this:
>Law 1: You cannot kill by beheading
>Law 2: You cannot kill by stabbing
>Law 3: You cannot kill by slashing
>Law 4: You cannot kill by shooting
Has more power than the government who simply states
>It is unlawful for an individual to kill or mortally injure any other.
And trust me, it really doesn't.

>dood just force indie developers to worry about the future of their small games instead of innovating
>but dood its ESSENTIAL I want to be able to play the shitty asset flip in 15 years
>it just is ok?

>>713893762
MAMA MIA!

What's the video that gave origin to this big amount of votes in the last few days? Can someone link it?

>>713895193
Do you want to own games you buy? Sign the initiative.
Do you want to be a rentcuck? Then don't

>>713895602
papa pia

>>713893407
Oh fuck off you plastic paddy, we speak English and Irish (Gaeilge) they're both official languages.

>>713895538
>Kike type post
I want corporations to do as I say, not as schlomo says. Learn the difference.

>>713894446
I thank the good lord Jesus Christ allmighty for retarded posts like this that keep these threads alive.

>>713893889
Based Roman.

>>713893407
You will never be Irish
>Captcha : JRA<0v<+

>Kirsche supports it
So the performative "COMMIE COMMIE COMMIE, LE EU FREE MARKET HATER" are going to stop now, right?

>>713895598
indie developers aren't making online only slop that needs a server ping to be playable though retard

>>713895598
list of indie devs making online only GaaS that require you to connect to a dedicated server they're hosting?

>>713895598
Yes. Host my server.

>>713893993
How are you pirating multiplayer games that aren't P2P?

>>713890621 (OP)
>be gamer in the EU
>be 47 years old
Man i'd love to tell my firends and family to vote for this but most people don't even know that i play videogames. I unironically do it in secret.

>>713894446
>it cost extra to let people use the tools you already made
So this is the power of absolute retardation

>>713895834
Present it as a media rights issue. It's what I did to my university peeps. Said
>It's the first step to actually owning what you buy online
I just mentioned adobe and saw a glint in their eyes.

>>713895470
>government is the reason we are in this situation to begin with
Explain. I know it's probably bait/shill post but I'm interested in possible explanation

>>713895598
hello kikerat roachware

>>713893762
MAMA MIA!

>>713893520
>>713893587
>>713895140
>>713895669
bong sandniggerlover propaganda

>>713894446
>bro just force companies to spend extra money, time and effort to keep their games alive
YES! Gaming is the most profitable entertainment industry on Earth, ahead of movies, music and literature.
>that will have no impact on small developers at all
It's an Eol plan for all future made games it's not to go back and solve the problem for older games, Indie games will adapt or they won't deserve to be in the market.
>>its for the good of gaming dude, dont you want to play The Crew 1?????
YES! It's a good game that I want to continue playing. That aside The Crew is what's called the "Test case" you have to have an example in this scenario situation and it fits the bill. Yes I want to continue playing games that I PAID MONEY FOR. What's wrong with that? If you're selling me a rental, tell me it's a rental not a product.

>>713894929
If you're french, they don't ask for an ID number.

>>713895583
SKG isn't a distinction like your example. Also, you're wrong because each distinction now requires different sets of actions and arbitration making, the system more complex (i.e. BIGGER and MORE POWERFUL)

>>713893407
You will never be a mick

>>713895746
Based, I love that brap hog like you wouldn't believe.

>>713895625
These three
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIfRLujXtUo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sJpTCitKqw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuTp4Am51i0

>>713894305
When internet and even 4chan became normie-friendly, corpos and governments (i'm not naming them) found out that influencing thoughts was generally beneficial to them. Having only a small group of full time employees on your list manipulating online discussions comes off cheaper than actually creating solid products.

>617k
not even 700k. it's ogre. it ain't gonna make it. it's joever. nothing ever happens.

>>713894446
>just force companies to spend extra money, time and effort to keep their games alive
NOBODY IS ASKING FOR THIS, HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES MUST IT BE SAID? ARE YOU FAGGOTS DEAF?

>>713896026
>moving goalposts
>equating complexity to size and power
Yep, it's a retarded lolbert alright.

>>713896102
The demoralization rituals WILL continue

>less than the half the signatures or not
>if I pull off sloptuber drama x20 then I at least stand a chance
>I just have to give it my all and show Ubisoft you do not mess with me or my games
>do it Ross
>you can do it moss man
>STOOOOOP... KILLIIIIIIIING... GAAAAAAAAAAAMES!

>>713895598
Indie developers don't make GaaS because the model is only sustainable to begin with if you have money to spare, which they don't.

>>713894714
but explain how he's wrong race traitor

>>713895949
Calm down Mary Lou, did you not get the memo that we fucking hate Sinn Fein after you bastards are promoting mass migration over your own people huh? Feck off.

>>713896140
I asked for that actually

>>713896146
do you have an argument, yuropoor?

>>713894053
I don't think it's gonna maintain those 20k a day

>saves you're games by merely pretending to be an idiot and rallying every slop dramatuber fanbase together to support the movement
you're welcome

I want more games for cheaper and I want game devs to make better quality games for less pay(non livable wage) and I’m not kidding

>>713890621 (OP)
kek, excellent
>>713891869
DON'T YOU KNOW I STILL BELIEVE

>>713896204
>race traitor
Lmao I got you riled up didn't I? Think about it for half a second.

>>713896323
>Punished Roach : A faggot denied his rubber animal cock

>>713896204
shut the fuck up faggot software roach
touch grass you fucking corpo boot licker incel tranny

>>713895746
literally everyone supports it. this is the easiest bipartisan issue in history.
right wings get to expand what private property means to include digital goods
left wings get to whip corporations and regulate them
the only people opposing it are paid shills, that is ubisoft employees ordered to infiltrate this board to try to sink it at all costs

>>713896323
spit

>>713893993
>pirate all my games anyway
>always online
too much pepperoni in the brain edoardo?

>>713891869
> I really hope it isn't too little too late...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k8craCGpgs
I believe that we can do it!

>>713896441
do not disrespect me

>>713896323
>pretending
lol lmao

>>713896323

>>713892853
He also has done more to hinder it

>>713892013
always have, this board is just shit and the threads of genuine videogame discussion are buried, but if you can find them they’re really nice

>>713892013
Only my favorite video games. The video games YOU like are shit.

>>713892853
>inb4 he says this was his plan all along

>>713892013
Always liked them.

>>713891869
can we talk about these fucking retards for a second?

Finland is going to reach 300% threshold before some countries reach 100% lmao

>>713896987
All taxes haven.

>>713896987
Those countries have really small populations. Most signatures should come from France, Poland, Italy, Spain and Germany.

>>713895193
Make companies release dedicated server tools like they used to.

>>713896987
Look at per capita
Luxembourg is doing pretty well, much better than Greece sitting at fucking 0.08% or Italy at 0.06

>>713897024
Got bless the Finns for staying strong.

>>713895182
>>713895990
>If you're french
the thing is I'm not.
I don't have an ID number either

>>713895598
Post the MK Ultra version of this webm

>>713894446
t. Tesla owner

GODDAMN FUCKING COMMIES WANT FREE SOURCE CODE AND I SAY FUCK OFF
LEARN TO REVERSE ENGINEER LAZY CUNTS

>>713896987
Those are fake countries which are used to evade taxes. Whoever lives in them works for the corpo overlords so it's impressive that they even got about 1k each.

>>713896987
Does the threshold matter?

>>713897118
>Look at per capita
Why does it matters? Isn't this about reaching 1 million total signatures?

>>713897215
Only until you hit 7 countries at 100% I believe, which was already passed. The challenge was always going to be the raw amount of total signatures.

>>713897215
Not anymore. We needed 7+ countries to break it, and we got that at like as early as 200k or something

>>713896987
You can't rely on micro-states to bring this home it has to be the big countries, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, and the medium sized countries Poland, the Baltics nation states.
Part of this really is a language barrier issue even though a lot of people speak and understand English, they still prefer their own language and their own language e-celebs which is fair so it's on those people to start talking.
Ross has contacted many European Youtubers and they didn't respond or said they were interested and didn't respond after the initial contact. It's a shame but you can't make people sign without force.

>>713897278
Look at what I'm replying to and try to fit the square block into the square hole.

>>713892013
>So, we like video games now?
Why would i keep making those list over the years if i did not like videogames? Why would i come to /v/ if i did not like videogames? I love videogames.
>>713897215
Not anymore. Once 7 countries reched the threshold now you only need raw signatures, no matter the EU country. We can get for example 10 million signatures from France/Germany(biggest countries in the EU) and that would make the initiative pass since it already has 7 countries that passed the threshold.

WHY WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE POOR AAA COMPANIES?!

>>713896607
This made me laugh much more it was supposed to.

So what is the "issue" with SKG?
Why would a normal gamer be against it?

>>713897342
It is hard since some of those youtubers rely on Ubisoft sponsorships/promotional contracts etc. There is a reason why even now there's a ton of youtubers who are not talking about this. We don't know how many videogame publishers have told youtubersthat are on their leash not to talk about this.

Are you ready to admit that Thor was right?

>>713897402
>check coomer row
>all WEGs
Oh well at least you are based enough to list the names of everything

>>713897562
Developers will use it as an excuse to raise game prices again.

>>713897562
Why would someone who isn't an unironic shill/troll be against it? Generally because they're misinformed and haven't read what the initiative is about, or they're misunderstanding something. This is nothing but a net positive.

>>713897562
>Why would a normal gamer be against it?
I've noticed that on other forums Americans and the British are against this since they really hate the EU for some reason. Those people would cut their nose to spite their face unironically.

>always thought these were basically the same thing except one was slightly more retarded
Learn from your big brother, Eesti!
And Suomi, help your little brother out for fucks sake!

why are people calling a scrawny sociopathic furry thor

>>713897562
None, that's why literally all arguments against it are completely made up lies.

>>713892941
>is there a way this succeeds even if the petition fails
Yes. The EU is legally REQUIRED to follow up on a Citizens Initiative if it reaches thresholds.
But either Parliament or the Commission is capable of following up on an Initative regardless, if they still deem that necessary.

Given that both Parliament AND the Commission have over the course of the last year already begun to bear down on several malpractices in the videogame industry, the odds of them choosing to do so of their own volition are decidedly non-zero.

>>713894929
If the ID expired... You make a new one? It doesn't take that long, and also you need an ID in general.

AND THEY DON'T STOP COMIN AND THEY DON'T STOP COMIN AND THEY DON'T STOP COMIN

>>713897657
I don't really like Hentai games, i do like some hentai movies and some doujins tho.

>>713897694
>>713897715
No one knows what it's actually about, not even Ross. Everyone just says to read the FAQ but it is just vague statements. So explain to me how it'll all work.

>>713897701
There's a reason the french did anything in their power to spite the brits.

>>713897703
Estonia is second highest per capita; they're doing better than everyone except Finland. The threshold is skewed for smaller countries since it's based on their number of MEPs which is higher relative to population for smaller countries

>>713897767
He can use an expired ID as long as all his personal data is the same. At least in most countries.
>doesn't take that long
In most countries it can take 14-30 days to get a new ID. But you do get a temporary paper one immediately, I think. And that one is also as valid as the regular ID.

>>713897694
No reason. There is literally no downside. It can only be good for gamers.

>>713890621 (OP)

The virgin PirateSoftware
>Relationship is some fuckbuddy he met via second life
>Furry
>Nepobaby, can't do shit on his own
>Fake deep voice because he sounds like a faggot irl
>Fans are ill informed morons who leave when they figure out how much of a lying bitch he is
>Get's called a roach, pisses his pants over it
>Unearned smuggness
>Everyone he interacts with thinks he's an asshole
>Coward bitch
>Corpo bootlicker
>Spent 8 years on an RPGMaker game, still nowhere near done
>Still somehow can't progress on it despite having the means to do so

The Chad Ross Scott
>Happily married to a woman who supports and loves him
>normal
>All his accomplishments are self made through sheer work and dedication
>Voice so iconic it became the defacto voice for Gordan Freeman
>Small but dedicated fanbase that's stuck with him for decades
>Get's called moldman in jest by his fans, shows he can take banter
>Humble and good hearted
>Everyone he speaks to has nothing but nice things to say about him
>Punches above his weight for things he believes in
>Hates corpos and stands up for consumer rights
>Has made countless high quality videos over the decades, plus the upcoming movie he has HAS TO MAKE!
>Still manages to put out kino despite his quest to save video games taking up so much time

Remember kids, don't be like Thor the faggot. Be like Ross the moldman and you'll live a happy and fullfilling life.

>>713894929
Make a new ID? How are you even walking around with a expired ID? You can get and extra fine if you are in a car accident or any other accident and you are with expired ID.

>>713892862
Sweden Yes!

>>713895313
My rights>Company's rights.

Current (June28): ~618k

Projected addition: +363k Total ≈ 981k by July31 (still shy of 1million). Plateau mid‑July, trailing just under the target.

Risk: missing by ~20k–50k signatures (1–5% shortfall).

Outcome: still close to 1million, but not a guaranteed success unless the daily rate holds slightly higher or gets another boost.

>>713897825
THE PASTA THREATS ARE WORKING

If you keep giving them money then you are stating you want shit games.

>>713898028

>>713895193
The quickest rundown possible.

We don't buy games, we buy a license of use that can be invalidated at any time.

This initiative will force the corporations to give us the possession. They cannot take it away from us legally.

Also games that die after the server shutdown should have an end-of-service plan that makes them playable offline.


If are are from EU, sign the petition. With an eID it takes like 5 clicks. If we keep the momentum, there is a chance we win.
https://www.stopkillinggames.com/

I want corporations to be forced by the hand of law to maintain their games until bankruptcy and I am not joking.

>>713897865
citizen initiatives cannot be NOT vague (extremely strict word count limit)
the campaign wants to bring up to the eu parliament the issue where consumers who purchase digital goods do not enjoy legal protections from having the things you own taken away from you
HOW this needs to be solved is up to the EU parliament to draft.

>>713897694
>>713897694
>Why would someone who isn't an unironic shill/troll be against it

Here's a copy pasta from last thread:

There was a study done which made it clear that the average "age" of a video game people are playing is somewhere between 7 and 10 years.
This, to publishers, means that they're not only competing with current games but also their old titles. Which they see as a loss of profit.
For example, there's at least 100k people still playing Diablo 2 (combined across the original and remaster). Publishers believe that this is 100k-200k less players playing Diablo 4, which is a loss of at least 5-10 million USD. Which is why, in this case, Blizzard has released Diablo 4 with always-online DRM and mostly server-side game logic. This way when they end the game's servers, their customers will be "forced" to buy Diablo 5 or Diablo 6.

>>713898059
And there will be a lot of signatures that will be found to be invalid so it needs a lot more than one million to actually pass.

>>713897703
>>713897925
for example, if Germany had Estonia's per capita signature rate of 0.34% they would be at 283,000 signatures, or 418% threshold

>>713893407
>talking the enemy's language
>not knowing your own language
cucked

>>713898242
How come the thresholds are so skewed then?

>>713894446
Devs had 10 dollars to develop games back then on their computers in Uncle Rudy's basement next to his dildo collection.
All of those games are still playable today, including every single multiplayer game.

>>713890621 (OP)
>>713891825
>>713891869
You retards finally got me. I signed the dumb petition yesterday.

>>713898114
>This initiative will force the corporations to give us the possession. They cannot take it away from us legally.
That's not what the initiative is about you falseflagging Jewish nigger.

>>713897562
There is nothing negative, indeed.

>>713897660
If they want to raise the price, they will just do it regardless of this. Don't be a fool.

>>713898340
Your Talmud will arrive in the mail on Monday

>>713898167
>This, to publishers, means that they're not only competing with current games but also their old titles.
it happens in every medium. see libraries (which publishers are desperately trying to kill via onerous library pricing on ebooks with 50 loans per title), streaming services (old series and movies compete with new ones), and music (see any service like itunes)
the truth is the video game industry is simply spoiled

>>713893762
how very reddit of you

>>713898119
Thats not what SKG does

>>713898119
It won't cause them to go bankrupt, but I wish it would. FUCK them.

>>713898408
Nice. I finally get to read that shit. As long as it not in Hebrewish.

>>713898413
Books and music are trivially easy to copy and perserve compared to an always online game.

>>713897278
>Why does it matters?
Because it shows the average Luxembourgian is 3.5x more likely to sign than an Italian and 3.8x as likely as a Greek. They're actually pulling their weight harder, it's just that they have much smaller populations.

>>713898302
The threshold is calculated by the country's number of MEPs multiplied by the total number of MEPs in the EU parliament. Smaller countries have proportionally more MEPs relative to their population so the threshold ends up higher relative to population.

>>713897660
Yes, I'm sure they were running out of excuses to increases prices by now.

>>713898114
>This initiative will force the corporations to give us the possession.
No you retard, it would make it so we can keep playing the games we bought by having the always online reuirements removed if their something like an item shop or force companies help users get the means to set up private servers after the comapny pulls the plug on the offical servers and no longer profits from the game.

>>713897660
Publishers determine price, not devs. And they don't actually set the price long term, because they can only sell for what people are willing to buy for. Do you somehow think that publishers wouldn't raise prices if they think they could?

>>713890621 (OP)
I just want to state that people should keep signing even after meeting the 1M threshold. god knows whether they'll pull some fuckery and claim some signatures are invalid

God please let this happen, it would be so fucking funny

>>713894238
SKG will fizzle out flop

>>713898167
Diablo 3 is always-online too so why hasn't Blizzard shut down Diablo 3's servers to force people to buy Diablo 4?

>>713893220
>The overwhelming majority of coverage is English-only.
Spaniard her, never saw any spanish Youtuber mention this.

>>713898458
But I wish it did.

>>713890621 (OP)
Can any yuro here contact their media and request them to cover this?

>>713897660
They're raising prices anyway and you don't own the game you buy.
This way IF they raise prices at least you will OWN what you buy.

>>713898352
>If they want to raise the price, they will just do it regardless of this
this. we just had base game price hikes to $70~$90. not to mention (((premium editions))) and (((ultimate editions))) that chop content in the base game and sell it to you separately

>>713897118
Looking at it like that there seems to still be a lot more potential to wring out of France and Spain in particular even though they've already reached their threshold.

>>713898727
Journos don't like video games.

>>713892013
Just sign the fucking petition

>>713893220
>The overwhelming majority of coverage is English-only.
Did EU countries stop teaching english to their kids who are already playing enlish games, consuming english online content ect? The language barrier should be non existant.

>>713898717
They will shut it down one day.

>>713895884
The problem is caused by the governments' IP protection laws. SKG want to keep said laws, and add more regulations on top of that.

>>713898571
What a weird choice.

>>713892862
Based Benisland.

>>713898558
>Books and music are trivially easy to copy and perserve compared to an always online game.
online games are easy to preserve. just look at MMOs with private servers. if it were so difficult there wouldn't be any. hell, people have made multiplayer servers for GTA5 (until rockstar sent PIs and threatened lawsuits to shut them down)

>>713898727
videogames are for children

BUT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE RIGHTS AND OWN THINGS

>>713898904
>SKG want to keep said laws
SKG doesn't say anything about copyright. it just says that you mustn't kill games and steal people's money
people have a right to keep playing the games they bought

>dev makes an always-online game
>dev goes bankrupt
What do you expect the dev to do in this scenario? They don't have any money, how are they meant to make an offline version of the game? This is why even if the petition passes, the EU won't be able to do anything about it.

>>713898907
I'm guessing whoever decided that was trying to make it easier for small countries but can't into maths and accidentally did the opposite

>>713890621 (OP)
inchallah

>>713892013
Go back to reddıt faggotman. We love vidya here.

>>713897562
For one the increased reliance on service games as a loophole to any potential change and for those who don't the possibility of reduced online elements.
Another loophole in killing the original game and releasing an inferior yet cheaper port/remake since the current stipulations only cover the game and not specific versions.
The fact that this initiative calls for property to be taken from developers under specific conditions, i.e. giving up server tools, which could compromise other games.

There's a handful of reasons to be against it but there aren't any reasons to be for it that wouldn't just be solved by not buying those bad games.

>>713890621 (OP)
Thread theme.

https://youtu.be/oHfc4hpuVvM?si=LszkTqp5Ef8wnWlG

>>713899064
They are supposed to plan end of life during development, not right at the end of a game's life.

>>713898868
It's a language which only millennials and younger generations speak. And gaming is something that's only relevant to men. So the actual voting population for this is maybe 5% of Europe, which is 2.25 million of people. And half of them are euro-sceptic and wouldn't vote for some EU bullshit.

>teaching English
English only started getting popular in schools with the arrival of American TV and the Internet. EU boomers don't know English since all their content is either native or dubbed.

>>713899060
The SKG explicitly states that it proposes no change to the IP protection laws that caused this problem in the first place. SKG will therefore only make the problem worse.

>>713899060
>SKG doesn't say anything about copyright.
What do you think proprietary server tools fall under

>>713899064
>dev goes bankrupt
The publisher or parent company isn't bankrupt and can hire new devs to set up the end of life stuff.

>>713899212
And what happens if they don't? They can't force devs to make a game in a certain way.

>>713891869
It would've been over in 1 week if the faggot big europeans youtubers would've talked about this
It'll die at 800k

>>713899149
>There's a handful of reasons to be against it but there aren't any reasons to be for it that wouldn't just be solved by not buying those bad games.
You don't understand! I NEED my gaming goy slop!

>>713899232
It's a self-published indie game, there is no one to pay for it.

is that thor faggot actually faking his voice? how does he sound irl?

>>713899064
>dev makes an always-online game
>dev goes bankrupt
Bad luck, for him and for us. THe thing is about those comapnies, who actively decide to pull the plug on a game you bough,
Oh, and btw, said dev could make the game with the posibility of off-line mode in mind.

>>713899226
why would i want changes to copyright laws when all i need is the server binaries to host the game i bought?

>>713899149
>Another loophole in killing the original game and releasing an inferior yet cheaper port/remake since the current stipulations only cover the game and not specific versions.
They aren't that stupid, this will definitely stipulate that you can't just "make more of the same to resell it". They already have regulations of this kind for software that comes with hardware like Apple phone preinstalled programs.

If this shit passes you will never have an Undertale ever again.

Why are you all so excited about discussing my city's airport?

>>713899373
>They aren't that stupid
Anon, more than one of their examples of a good EoL solution is reselling a game that had its service end. They are indeed that stupid.

>>713899383
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?

>>713899383
How so?

>>713899383
hello retard

>>713899256
>they can't force car manufacturers to make cars in a certain way
>they can't force medicine developers to make drugs in a certain way
>they can't force beverage manufacturers to make drinks in a certain way

>>713899256
Liquidate assets, if someone buys the rights to the game, it falls to them to implement end of life. Otherwise release the game's source code which would allow the community to do the same if interest exists.

>italy has the lowest signatures per capita
what is the pastanigger's problem?

>>713899365
Because what you want and what you will get after the politicians and their lobbyists have had their way with it are two radically different things.

>>713898340
Next step is to get your parents signing it.
I did. I would have asked my grandparents too, but they are all resting in the grave now :(

>>713899383
Undertale is fully playable offline even after I call Toby a faggot

>>713899506
Intentionally torpedoing your company to avoid legal responsibility is super illegal, lel, this would never fly.

>>713899353
>THe thing is about those comapnies
Except it isn't because no law is going to have arbitrary restrictions like that. It's going to be a blanket law for developers of any size and software in general.

>>713891869
Funnily enough I only voted on it yesterday to annoy that gay annoying furry

>>713899483
They can, and it made it all worse. Cars are expensive and broken, drugs are expensive and too often harmful, and most of what you drink is expensive and poisoning you.

>>713898682
Oh, that's happening regardless. Adobe is already on the EU's shit-list for that stuff.
It's just that when it comes to big tech, they're currently a bit preoccupied keeping Apple and Meta's asses spanked a bright rosey red.

>he le fakes his voice!
How is it "faking" if he does it 24/7?

>You're not a real doctor, you've just been faking it for the past few decades while successfully treating hundreds of patients!

>>713899510
what publishers will have to do to give me the product i bought in a functional state is their problem, not mine
they will either deliver or get sued out of existence

>>713894929
Finn here. Didn't need any passport or ID number for signing the thing. Maybe you don't either.
>>713898016
Wut? Depends on the country, obviously. I didn't bother to apply for a new passport before I actually started travelling again. Lived without one for like 2 years. Never bothered to get one of those standalone ID cards either. I have a driver's license but that's not an "official" ID here (even though it's accepted as such almost everywhere).
Pretty Funny how Europeans always think things work exactly like they do in their home countries now that we're all part of a happy little EU family.

>>713899329
Any self published indie game that is somehow an online-only live service deserves to fail and nothing of value would be lost anyway.

>>713899593
And it's still better than what would have transpired without those regulations. In US they want to straight up disable your ability to repair your vehicles and your home appliances.

>>713899513
Wow, a whole family of morons. Who would have thought.

>>713899078
I think it's not to make it "easier", but to have it more relative to the legislative power in the EU Parliament like was already said
>smaller countries, relatively more MEPs
>ergo needs to be balanced again

>>713899620
Stop fucking your ferret "rescues" to death you sick fuck.

>>713899506
>I want my game!
>dude we can't afford to keep the servers up, we're bankrupt
>GOVERNMENT, REPOSSESS HIS HOME, MAKE HIS FAMILY LIVE ON THE STREET BECAUSE I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT MY GAAAAAME
You people really are evil Jews aren't you.

>>713899385
Hi greekbro

>Americans voted in Trump to spite left wingers
>Europeans are voting to kill World of Warcraft to annoy a gay Blizzard furry American

>>713899593
god you are dumb

>>713896087
honestly the mutahar videos were the best written ones I think

>>713890621 (OP)
i got my dutch friend to fly all the way from japan to her home country of holland just to sign this thing

ross owes me one

>>713899648
No, it is worse! All of those listed were cheaper and better a few decades ago.

>>713898868
English learning in the EU vary wildly. Here in France, you're not gonna learn english through school for instance, even in universities I had english classes teaching extremely basic english.

>>713899724
When will you tell him that it happens online?

>>713899724
Thanks, Joosten! Did Kojima ever call back?

>>713899684
Or they could just give me the documentation that could enable me to support the game after they drop support, how about that? Why does everything have to immediately be a ridiculous exaggeration? Because without it your strawman wouldn't work?

>>713890621 (OP)
lol Mohammed is extremely European. Stop spamming this shit.

>>713899741
Please consult the map.

>>713899702
Nobody has an issue with WoW.
1. It's advertised and paid for as a service with a monthly subscription. It's clear when the "game ends".
2. The game is already almost fully preserved thanks to the currently existing open source servers. Anyone can host them and connect their game to them.

Remember, supporting SKG is antisemitic. Think of the 6 gorillion developers who died during the holocaust. SKG is just another shoah.

>>713899509
I wish it was just one, but in this case I think it's confused, aimless rebelliousness which ends up being complacency through various forms of insecurity. Might also be stupidity, lack of comprehension and generally terrible english, and many would sign if they understood.
>>713899702
World of Warcraft would be unaffected by this, though.

>>713899714
I accept your concession.

>>713899064
Anon even if your edge case is valid edge cases don’t decide laws.

>>713899739
Government regulations of the European Union have nothing to do with what used to be cheaper, thank the US banks for global price increases.

>>713899847
>World of Warcraft would be unaffected by this, though.
>>713899831
>Nobody has an issue with WoW.
Fuck, I regret voting on this. I wanted it to kill WoW.

>>713899509
It makes sense. It was weird to me, but I did not notice that I had to sort by signatures per capita, as the thresholds are different.

>what is the pastanigger's problem?
Abstentionism is a huge cultural problem in Italy, that gets worst year by year.
Recently it was missed an important thing for worker rights (less than 50% voted, so it automatically lost).
The problem is amplified with these important petitions which people don't even know the existance.

>>713899336
>>713899620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjUun6owSCE

>>713899818
Visiting Germany and discovering that they dub literally everything on TV was the most insane thing I've experienced.

>>713899831
Didn't read.

>>713899547
The scenario was literally when a dev goes bankrupt. How is this Intentionally torpedoing your company?
>>713899684
I don't see the point you are trying to make since most developers are registered as llc.

>>713899854
>edge cases
Are you retarded? Companies constantly go out of business or can't afford the daydream shit you faggots want. Retard.

>>713899892
Don't worry anon, Blizzard is probably up to the task.

>>713899904
bro he was only like 30 years old there, it was before his second puberty.

>>713899951
You are the retard my friend.

>>713899915
Russian "dubs" are even funnier
>one male VA dubs all men with deadpan voice
>one female VA dubs all women
>the original voices still play in the background like a documentary
Peak retardation

>>713899951
Providing documentation that they have most likely already preserved will not run them a horrible bill.

>>713899803
>they could just give me the documentation that could enable me to support the game after they drop support
How is that any better when the source code is their property?
>Because without it your strawman wouldn't work?
What strawman? What do you think "Liquidate assets" means, turning them into fucking water? It's selling their property until they have enough money to do what they need to, which in this case would be running your game for an undefined amount of time.

>>713899951
Yeah faltering self-published companies usually unleash the most expensive form of game as a last hurrah before fucking popping like an egg and totally collapsing.

>>713899915
It's quite great. I can't wrap my head around watching a foreign film with only subs at a theater.

>>713899881
It has everything to do with it. When a government regulates it introduces artificial costs to the production. I can tell that you've never worked with compliance.

>>713897985
Fpbp

>>713900035
It’s not their property, they’re fucking bankrupt, they are going to be sold off piecemeal.

>>713899915
Greece is comfy, they never dub anything except the most baby tier animation for children, think Disney and Pixar. Even some animated films getmore theatrical releases with subs than dubs if they're considered prestige or "adult" (the latest Ghibli film, Spiderverse, Kubo, Isle of Dogs etc.)

>>713899803
>you can't support your game that you made? Well give me your property for free and I'll do it!

>>713900035
>How is that any better when the source code is their property?
Why are you talking about source code? This has nothing to do with it.
>It's selling their property until they have enough money to do what they need to, which in this case would be running your game for an undefined amount of time.
That is unnecessary. It's so tiresome seeing dumb faggots like you come to these threads to make the same exact stupid talking points that get debunked every time. You don't even know what source code is and how it differs from a binary or documentation that is required.

>>713900084
>man having to use water instead of piss is such a faggoty artificial cost increase
>now I am going to have to raise prices ten dollars

>>713900165
Documentation that describes your property is not the same as giving up your property. You are genuinely retarded.

>>713900165
Providing documentation isn't giving away property you contrarian retard

>>713900185
>Why are you talking about source code? This has nothing to do with it.
NTA but don't lie, you brought it up in the first place. >>713899506
>Otherwise release the game's source code which would allow the community to do the same if interest exists.

>>713890621 (OP)
>start SKG
>signatures are slow but steady
>maldavius calls it a shitty vague grift
>signature rate falls off a cliff
>finally make a callout video 10 months later
>the drama gets people's attention and signature rate goes up
he should have done this from the start, it's probably too late now

NOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND COMPANIES WILL GO BANKRUPT IF THEY LET PLAYERS MAKE THEIR OWN SERVERS

>>713899818
>Portugal
Honorary balkanoids.

>>713900275
>>713900273
You idiots do know that code is covered by copyright, right? It's as much a property as a book is.

>>713900287
That wasn't my post thoughbeit. Ross himself states in a video that source code is not necessary.

>>713900289
Ross' heart is too pure.

>>713891869
>Only 115k~ signatures from the drama boost
>The guy who sperged the fuck out and killed the initiative wasn't affected at all
Yeah I'm thinking it's over

ESA Marathon is going on right now.
The best way to get Euro gamers to sign this would be to get them to talk about it at ESA.
Or send in donations about Stop Killing Games

>>713891869
PirateShartware being such an insufferable cunt about it has actually paid off and ended up boosting the movement more than he hurt it. Perfect timing too, since his credibility has been shattered from a series of events over the past few months.
Youtube algorythm and nepotism won't save him this time, his ship is sinking. And Ross is watching it laughing.

>>713900273
>Documentation that describes your property is not the same as giving up your property.
That documentation IS your property anon. If you're being forced to give it up, not licence it out, then you are losing your rights over it.
I'm convinced that none of you actually know what you're talking about.

>>713900226
>You don't understand, if the government wouldn't tell me what to do I would start drinking piss!
Well, you may have a point considering that you americans like your chocolate to taste like vomit.

>>713900425
>wasn't affected at all
He has the entire grift side of youtube coming down on him right now.

>>713890621 (OP)
I’m an American

Ross is an American

Video games were invented by Americans

And yet I can’t sign the petition.

how did this furry retard went from a fat yanderedev to being shoved into everyone's youtube as a gayming authority to now becoming a massive lolcow in the span of a year

>>713899608
qrd

>>713898149
>we will leave it to the EU to figure out how much it wants to fuck us
great plan

>>713891959
SUFFAH THOR, how'd you like that bish?

>>713900478
Yeah, the benevolent drink companies definitely wouldn’t all switch to piss to save money if they could.

>>713900493
That kinda shit just makes these clowns more popular and he still has the same amount of viewers and shit

>>713900474
You enjoy making shit up, don't you? A documentation that describes the server binaries and necessary protocols to enable client to server connection is not some sort of arcane knowledge protected by copyright .You're genuinely fucking subhuman, holy shit.

>>713900506
>And yet I can’t sign the petition.
Your country exists to serve corporations, sorry bro. For all its flaws at least the EU brings in the heat sometimes, thank us for USB-C on your iphones.

I had the displeasure of talking to a PirateSoftware fan. They are the most dense motherfuckers I've encountered in years. It's like a redditor crossed with a 2000s forum admin and somehow a lot more ignorant because they use GPT to confirm their biases

>>713900474
So publishers don't have rights over anything on GOG?

>>713898682
>>713899608
What did Adobe do? AFAIK cloud systems are still perfectly legal even in the EU

>>713900574
>Be a drink company
>All competitors switch to making their drinks with piss
>Win, because nobody except for one retarded american likes drinking piss
>All competitors go out of business
>Said retarded american accuses me of having a monopoly, in reality just mad that the government never told him to not drink piss

>>713890621 (OP)
sure whatever. modern games aren't worth preserving. most media made after 2010 is not worth preserving either

So do you all think the anons against this are genuine braindead bootlickers, or just shitposting contrarians trying to do bait?

>>713900605
>A documentation that describes the server binaries and necessary protocols to enable client to server connection is not some sort of arcane knowledge protected by copyright
Yes, yes it is.
https://www.mewburn.com/law-practice-library/software-copyright#:~:text=Computer%20software%2C%20more%20specifically%20the,associated%20with%20some%20computer%20software.

>Computer software, more specifically the program code, is protected by copyright as a ""literary work"". There may also be other types of copyright work associated with some computer software.

>The (literary) copyright in a computer program is not only infringed by taking a direct copy of the code (source code or compiled code) but also by versions of the program re-written or otherwise converted into another computer language, these being considered infringing ""adaptations"" of the original work. When you run a program on a computer there is normally some copying of the program within your computer’s memory, so a copyright licence is needed: this is why when you buy computer software you are effectively buying a copyright licence to use the software and must use the software in accordance with the terms of the licence.

It really is ignorance all the way down with you people.

>>713900628
You are literally our vassal. It’s so fucking funny how uppity foreigners are. Spics are in the streets enjoying our civilization while screaming LA RAZA and flying their spic flag. Chinks are crying about white men despite benefiting from the technology and society we provide them. Same with Jeets. And of course Euros are constantly throwing around their snide little remakes. Without us your shit would LITERALLY be owned by Russia and China. How about you be grateful for once? Show a little respect?

>>713900508
literally a fat fucking faggot who sucks dick and puts on a fake deep voice and persona of being "smarter than everyone else". When he started blowing up I was watching a stream and he IMMEDIATELY gave me red flags when he talked about studying social manipulation as a means of "hacking"- which was immediately followed by a super chat which he reacted wayyyyyyy the fuck too positively towards. The universe abhors a vacuum and the internet loathes a liar.

>>713900360
Copyright isn't property, and documentation isn't fucking source code

>>713900827
We're not talking about source code you dumbass

>>713900792
Never happens. You just get “Made with PURE WATER!” Stamped on the label even though they just use piss. No regulations means no advertising or product regulations.

>>713900808
>Begs daddy government for help
>Calls others bootlickers
>Gets surprised when the government once again fucks them

>>713900841
>You are literally our vassal
>How about you be grateful for once?
MMMMMMMMMM
nyo

>>713900018
The voice over that is done in my country sounds fine to me, but when I hear it done in Russian it does sound retarded.
It's something you must grow up with.

Kind of like watching foreign commercials.

>>713900542
this isn't the ideal solution, but it is the only solution. dozens of others have been tried and failed.

>>713900906
>I can't tell the difference between water and piss!
>I need the government to tell me which I should drink!

>>713900827
That's not what is being asked or referred to you retarded fucking monkey.

>>713900937
Okay, get replaced by nigs and Arabs and have your shit run by Russia and China. I’m sure they will be more gracious masters than us.

>>713900761
cloud systems only work as long as the servers are up
this campaign passing could force adobe to add an end of life plan to photoshop etc

>>713900895
>We're not talking about source code you dumbass
>>713899506
>Otherwise release the game's source code which would allow the community to do the same if interest exists.
How many times are you people going to do this? Also server tools would require personal code making it covered by copyright.

>>713900018
It can be good if it's well localized and the actor puts in some proper effort. Polish Trailer Park Boys and South Park airings from the 2000s come to mind, Comedy Central and MTV in general were exceptional compared to other networks.

>>713900808
it's just retarded libertarians who despise anything government related

>>713900952
The only solution is to lobby against DRM, stop consuming live service slop and to laugh at everyone who'se games gets "killed"

>>713900841
>Without us your shit would LITERALLY be owned by Russia and China.
The Call of Duty franchise really caused brain damage to americans.

>>713900952
>Nothing short than total submission of megacorporations will suffice, ahlamdulilah

>>713900924
>muh daddy government
Quintessentially American post.
Corporations have profit maximization as their only goal and transfer wealth out of the country. My government is at least nominally supposed to serve the interest of myself and my people.

>>713898727
https://www.computerbase.de/news/gaming/stop-killing-games-petition-zur-rettung-von-spielen-braucht-stimmen.93314/
computerbase just released an article in german

>>713900656
All PirateSoftware fans are either uninformed people who just watch his shorts and think he's ok from 20 seconds clips or they're the exact same kind of person as he is, so they're validated by his outrageous narcicissm

>>713900952
the solution is not buying the games
the amount of fucking you are getting by a dev deciding to shut its live service down is nothing compared to the one you are gonna get when the EU gets involved and decides to bankrupt the whole industry

Lithuania and Estonia are doing well, why are the Latvian slacking?

>>713900924
What do you think a government is if not officials you have elected to change the law? You can tell them to grant you more rights and they will, because that is the fucking job you as a citizen are actively paying for them for.

>>713900924
You're depending on daddy goverment to enforce copyright law, retard

>>713901061
>some retard mentions source code because he has no idea what he's talking about
>SEE SEE I WAS RIGHT IT'S YOU PEOPLE
Kill yourself, unironically. And no, server binaries would not require "personal code". You are stupid. You have no idea what you're saying, all you're doing is cold reading and trying to pretend that you have some sort of knowledge on the topic when you have none. You are either Thor, or one of his fucking lackeys because you act exactly like he does.

>>713900287

That was me. Dunno if you guys are retarded or something but let's roll back, the initial question is what to do if a dev goes bankrupt and doesn't have an end of life planned for a live service.
My answer is still the same but apparently retards don't understand it.
If the studio gets bought it falls to the new owner to deal with legal obligations, like for everything else. I did not mention that one since that barely counts as going bankrupt.
The second hypothesis was the studio files for what burgers know as chapter 11. This involves liquidating assets, including the game itself, ip and basically every material asset still worth something.
If the game gets bought, same as before, it falls to the new owner to deal with legal requirements, including end of life plans.
If no one buys the game, it becomes lost media either way so releasing the source code pretty much doesn't affect anyone's rights.

>>713901061
Try following before the conversation before commenting, retard.

>>713901108
You can’t even defend yourself from some random Arab refugee, what makes you think you could defend yourself from Russia and China

>>713901021
You wouldn’t be able to, because the entire industry uses piss and tweaks their formulations to best cover up the taste of piss.

>>713901157
if implementing simple consumer protections crashes the entire industry, the industry deserves to crash

>>713901127
I'm european.
>Corporations have profit maximization as their only goal
Yeah, so? I don't need them to be benevolent. I need them to compete with each other. But what happens instead is that they run to the government to lobby for more regulations to destroy their competitors leading to a few mega corps that are in bed with the government. And your solution is more government?
>My government is at least nominally supposed to
Yet never does, idiot.

>>713901030
Okay, au revoir and good luck.

>>713901104
i bitterly remember when i lost hawken, why would i laugh at others losing their favourite games

>>713900440
Might be a smart move. Too bad I'm not into that shit.

>>713891869
>Somewhat big channels talk about the initiative without needing to focus on thor
>Most videos are from less than a day ago
Damn.

>>713901157
you are painting it as if live service publishers losing money would be a BAD thing.

>>713901025
So, you aren't asking for the source code.
You aren't asking for server tools.
You aren't asking for always online drm to be banned.
You aren't asking for service games to be regulated.
You aren't asking for developers to perpetually keep the servers alive.

What ARE you asking for?
Because it doesn't seem like you even know what you want or what that would even entail. It's like you're just blindly following someone because they said to.
Then again, this is a campaign about being able to blindly make purchases.

>>713901338
You know the great thing about competition? It only lasts until the winner buys the losers and then stomps any small startup to death.

>>713900827
What do you call this nu-trolling where the "troll" is clearly way angrier and more invested than the people he's "trolling?"

>>713901257
They are parasites that are elected by morons who believe that they work for them. The morons fail to realize that there is no money in fulfilling their needs, because the morons can't choose not to pay the politicians and there is more money to be made by going to bed with the mega corps.

>>713901228
half of latvia is ethnically russian

>>713901468
Retardation.

>>713901268
I want to abolish copyright laws, retard

>>713901295
russia cant even defend itself lmao

>>713901468
Well what is trolling to you?

>Even the ex-blizzard "ARTHAS IS BAD BECAUSE COVID" retard supports the movement
Uhhhh Piratesoftware bros what the FUCK? I thought devs want games to be killed....

>>713900508
>shoved into everyone's youtube as a gayming authority
he figured out how to use youtube shorts algorithm worked and abused it, he openly admits this, he would make a youtube short and release it when people in tech jobs are on lunch.
Basically he timed his shorts release with a massive influx of people taking their lunch and pulling their phone out at the same time.
as for converting that to viewers on twitch, hes talking about games and accessibility into his game (people with various of colorblindness ect.) combine that with his 24/7 ferret stream he effectively always pulls viewers even those that hate him.
For the record if you are starting youtube, youtube shorts are a great way to inflate your sub numbers, its converting it to video views that requires a bit more work.

>>713901515
As compared to the unelected morons that have every incentive to sell your organs on the street and rape your sister for profit margin.

>>713901465
I'm asking for you to stop making a fool of yourself.

>>713901528
aren't estonia and lithuania pretty close to that too

>>713901606
>>713901465
Not this. That's for sure.

>>713901693
much less, like 10%

>>713901669
So no argument then? Figured as much.

>>713901639
>ARTHAS IS BAD BECAUSE COVID
huh?

>>713901427
its kind of surreal to see ross and steve talk. Its like seeing a president speak with a sandwich shop owner

>>713900018
>one male VA dubs all men with deadpan voice
>one female VA dubs all women
I agree this way is retarded. It should be only one neutral voice everybody (male voice works better for it)
It's better that d*bbing but worse than subtitles

>>713901371
You lost... Hawken? What are you, a fucking moron?
>>713901315
>One day a drinking company pops up that doesn't use piss
>One pissdrinking retarded American still can't tell the difference
>Company does great because not only does it not need to waste any money on cleaning piss, it also turns out that water is cheaper than piss

>>713901467
Every monopoly in history has been the result of government regulations and interference. What you are describing is impossible on the free market because a big corpo can't stomp any small startup to death. It can buy it, then another small startup pops up. So it buys that one. And one by one it becomes one huge and unmanageable behemoth that can't do anything but lose money buying startups, and eventually it fails. As we have seen time and time again, until governments stepped in and determined that some were just "too big to fail".

>>713890621 (OP)
Inshallah my brother

I hope you fucks seethe when this all falls apart

>>713901860
This is how you spend your Saturday huh? Begging for arguments on an anonymous image board? Is that the only way you can get someone to pay attention to you?

What a sad, sad, sad loser.

Loser, loser, loser.

>>713899904
The best part of this clip is he's shilling his shitty undertale rip off that still isn't out

>>713901286
>but apparently retards don't understand it.
Anon, you didn't understand the hypothetical situation in the first place. Also a new owner wouldn't be obligated to carry the responsibilities of the old company.

>>713901995
>I...I hope you FUCKS *sniffle* s-seethe when this *cries* falls apart....

>>713899510
copyright should be repealed, yes. that is a definite fact
that doesn't mean that SKG's objective of letting people play games past 'expiry dates' set by publishers is bad

>>713901665
>Evil capitalists would sell your organs on the street!
>Meanwhile in reality all organ theft happening right now are sanctioned or carried out by governments

>>713902031
>This is how you spend your Saturday huh?
Actually no, between posts I'm playing Ace Combat and drinking a nice, homemade ice coffee. Do you think I'm taking as much effort replying to you as you are to me?

>>713902158
>I was merely pretending
You weren't pretending, you're a genuine retard.

>>713892021
It was because of lead poisoning

>>713901639
how will piratesoftware ever recover now that a real ex-blizzard dev supports the movement?

>>713901981
>one day a company pops up that doesn’t use piss
>because of industry inertia, they fall behind Pissco’s flagship product Pissgulp
>pissco buys them, acquiring their product
>they replace the water in Dr. Water with piss
>you buy it anyway, because they aren’t required to disclose the change to customers
Dr. Water didn’t have the profit margin it needed to really thrive, pissco has elevated the stock and every shareholder is happy. For a non-piss alternative, try our lead paint water flavorers, just provide your own drinking water! (Drinking wells not included)

>>713901947
This guy had a massive seethe about people saying that Arthas didnt do anything wrong because he claims that Stratholme was equivalent to shooting each person that gets diagnosed with covid
He was also one of the designers of said mission.

So if this passes then gacha will be forced to stay up forever and isn't allowed to EOS in Europe at least?

>>713902119
SKG's intention isn't the problem. The method is. SKG is kind of like a guy trying to put out fire with kerosene. It doesn't matter if he thinks that it will work, what matters are the results.

>>713902053
>Anon, you didn't understand the hypothetical situation in the first place.
Bit late to move the goalposts. Feel free to point out what part of it if wrong, first post is there. >>713899064

>Also a new owner wouldn't be obligated to carry the responsibilities of the old company.
New owners don't need to pay taxes and follow regulations?
Are you really that fucking stupid?

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>>713902146
Don’t look into the american medical system, worst mistake of my life. Do you know how much it costs to buy the free blood donated by others?

>>713899365
>why would i want changes to copyright laws when all i need requires changes to copyright laws?

why is shilling some political petition okay on /v/?

>>713902146
>>Meanwhile in reality all organ theft happening right now are sanctioned or carried out by governments
you don't see organ theft by mobs and mafias because everything is stringently regulated to preclude that from happening
if the ban on the sale of organs wasn't so heavily enforced you'd see tons more of cases of organ theft perpetrated by criminals
retard

>>713902306
read the faq

>>713902326
>BTFOs Barbossa
BASED

>>713902306
No they need an end of life plan that allows players to continue using the products they paid for.

>>713901981
>What you are describing is impossible on the free market because a big corpo can't stomp any small startup to death. It can buy it, then another small startup pops up. So it buys that one. And one by one it becomes one huge and unmanageable behemoth that can't do anything but lose money buying startups, and eventually it fails.
Or the big company can just sell at a loss, preventing competition from making a profit.
Or the company can just take hold of every products, preventing the competition from accessing them.
Or they can just hire people to threaten/eliminate the competition.
The list goes on.

SKG is fizzling out.... it's so over...

>>713902346
do you get paid for every (you)?
here's one extra rupee for you

>>713902329
developers managed privately hosted dedicated servers since before you were even born

>>713891869
poopfartman saved us

>>713902313
>noooooooooo if you don't have the perfect solution ready you shouldn't take any steps towards fixing the problem rrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeee
faggot. stupid moron
>>713902329
>>all i need requires changes to copyright laws?
if that were the case then you wouldn't be able to play games like terraria, age of empires 2, warcraft 3, starcraft, etc. online without official corporate servers

>620k
leggo
Death to Judaism

>>713902328
Shut it, CHUD, give us free shit to resell, you monster

>>713902472
>doesn ot reply
>throws fit
okay man

HOLY SHIT another day where we beat the quota by lots

>>713901338
>I'm european.
No one on this continent identifies as "european".
T.Finn

>>713892013
fun fact: you'll kill gacha games and their development forever by getting this passed. Its the most /v/ -centric incentive to do

>>713902238
>Things that never happens in real life are a problem!
Dr. Water doesn't need to challenge Pissco globally, only locally. It doesn't need to outperform Pissco on the big market, it just needs to perform better where it actually operates. And suddenly Pissco finds itself surrounded by different Dr. Waters that just refuse to sell. Everytime it manages to acquire a Dr. Water the customers leave and another one takes its place.

>>713901665
Its a doggy dog world. If you dont sell your granma for a dollar, thats a dollar you're missing out on. Eventually you get outcompeted by people with more resources who were willing to do that to get ahead.

>>713900056
VA dubbers often sound cringe as fuck and in a lot of cases you can't pace speech correctly. Not to mention most dubs use very low quality voice actors.
I just vastly prefer original voices. I wouldn't be able to handle watching anime dubbed instead of subbed, for example. Unless it's a high-tier dub, which is very rare. So I rather not risk it.

>>713902635
>you'll kill gacha games and their development forever by getting this passed
Proof?

>>713902617
My passport says european union, that's good enough for me.

>>713902617
>No one on this continent identifies as "european".
A few Americanized Germans online do.
If you ever see anyone online saying shit like "in my European country" or "here in Europe" it's a germanoid 100%

>>713902406
>>713902378
Ok but what about F2P games with microtransactions? Would those be forced to have an EOS plan as well?

>>713901981
>in a free market big companies wouldn't have the means to destroy competition
That's a funny joke

>>713902539
>Putting out the fire with kerosene might not be the perfect solution, but it is a solution
>HELP! THE FIRE IS WORSE NOW! WE NEED MORE KEROSENE!

>>713902324
>Bit late to move the goalposts
You're saying that as someone who introduced the idea of being bought out. A bit of the pot calling the kettle black huh.

>New owners don't need to pay taxes and follow regulations?
There go those goalposts again no one said anything about taxes or regulations. But being the new owners wouldn't mean that they have to necessarily support the old games if they even can. If it uses third party servers for instance, those don't belong to the company that went down and may have already been repurposed/sold off/whatever. Kind of like the Nintendo WiFi servers which should be in the possession of IGN since they bought Gamespy.

It's ESA marathon followed by GDQ.
THIS is the opportunity to get it out to more people.

>>713902635
Sucks that there are already gacha games that did what the initiative asks for, or you wouldn't look like a complete retard right now.

>>713902484
Yeah, it's almost as if you can do what you please as the owner.

>>713902724
>You shouldn't try to fight the fire, you don't know if it'll stop itself eventually.
>HELP! THE ENTIRE BLOCK IS NOW ON FIRE FOR SOME REASON!

>>713902146
Organ donation and organ sale are two different things in developed countries my friend.

>>713899267
There's not a single big european react slopper

This kills the shill.

>>713902720
Thats one of the big grey areas where even Ross is not sure.
That'll be up to EU to decide if it passes.

>>713902769
nobody cares about gdq anymore
also, it's an english language event

>>713902720
read the faq

>>713902643
No they don’t, pissco literally operates the supplies for the industry’s raw materials and are charged exorbitant prices. They also are entering into a market saturated by pissco products across the globe, and pissco has strange their prices by lowering their own temporarily. It’s a pissco world, your plucky little startup cannot compete with the fortune 500 company that can bury your adverts, overcharge you for your ingredients, burn down your factories, and rape your dog.
>>713902667
And thus, your child is repossessed to pay your organ debt you accrued for attempting to buy a house.

>>713902417
>selling at a loss meme
Has been tried, failed spectacularly. Read up on Herbert Dow
>holding all products meme
And make a huge loss and go bankrupt when they have too much stock and not enough sales
>break the law meme
Suddenly law enforcement stopped existing, and nobody at Dr. Water has a weapon to defend themselves. Hell, nobody at all has a weapon or knows how to defend themselves except for Pissco and their PMC.
>The list goes on
Yeah, I can quite imagine that the well of retardation never runs dry

>>713903026
Yeah, turns out the giant multinational corporation can hire better mercenaries than the plucky garage startup, dumbass.
>law enforcement doesn’t exist
That sounds like government overreach, statist.

>>713902370
No, the reason why we don't see it is because it is illegal to harm others, and if you base your whole business model on harming others you will soon find yourself in prison.
>B-but criminals get away with it today
Because of government inefficiancies. And yet you want more government.

>>713902225
Pretending how exactly?
Correcting you isn't a mistake or something I was faking, it's just an easy thing to do that I can do with a phone in my off hand.

I'm any case once this thread is done I'm going to see if I have any primer lying around so I can finish my metagross model.

God, I fucking love having rights.

>>713902721
They don't. That's why it is called the free market because anyone can enter.

>>713901228
>>713901528
it's not that bad and that also isn't the problem
most nerd hobbies actually tend to be full of russians

Latvians are just a nation of normalfags

>>713903159
>against the law
Sorry I think I heard the mewling of a GOVERNMENT BOOTLICKER. The law is whatever pissco wants in the urine autonomous zones, thank you. Now please hand over one (1) kidney for your car.

>>713903026
>Has been tried, failed spectacularly. Read up on Herbert Dow
>And make a huge loss and go bankrupt when they have too much stock and not enough sales
A large company doesn't need to do it forever, you moron. Just long enough to outlive the competition, which, as it turns out, cannot sustain itself at a loss and without products for as long as a large company.
>Suddenly law enforcement stopped existing, and nobody at Dr. Water has a weapon to defend themselves. Hell, nobody at all has a weapon or knows how to defend themselves except for Pissco and their PMC.
So you're literally saying that the only thing stopping big companies from going down on smaller ones are government intervention. Good job contradicting yourself in one post.

>>713902289
>comparing covid to the plague
thats so fucking retarded

>>713903219
You better hope those SKG idiots don't change that for you.

>>713902891
thats the craziest thing about this campaign: we're not asking for anything new or unheard of, we used to get this with almost every multiplayer game.
yet shills/retards act like it just isn't possible to package dedicated server.exe inside your game folder.
i want my dedicated server files back

>>713903182
You haven't corrected anything, you can't tell the difference between decompiled code, compiled code, backend, server binaries and documentation describing the process. You're stupid enough to believe that writing down words "The server connects to TCP/IP via the port 27015" in wordpad would cause the developer to lose copyright, in spite of Doom having its source code released years ago and neither Id nor Bethesda losing their copyright. You're a joke.

>>713903026
>Has been tried, failed spectacularly.
Walmart.

>>713903302
Don't you understand, you getting server hosting tools means the developer will lose their copyright! You fucking communist freeloader, how dare you want to host your own games!

>>713902617
Immigrants do (when you ask them but not in actuality)
Faggots do
Nice tits

>>713903026
>Suddenly law enforcement stopped existing, and nobody at Dr. Water has a weapon to defend themselves
So, the government put in place laws to stop large companies from doing whatever they want to smaller ones. What do we call those again?

Supporting SKG is antisemitic

>>713903274
Like I said, has been tried, failed spectacularly. Read up on Herbert Dow.
>So you're literally saying that the only thing stopping big companies from going down on smaller ones are government intervention. Good job contradicting yourself in one post.
No, I'm saying that in a country where the government has a monopoly on violence they will not allow big corpos to challenge it, and if they don't people will be armed and able to defend themselves.
You, on the other hand, seem to think that there is no difference between making harming others illegal and the government regulating the market so that their preferred companies that they just happen to have stock in comes out on top.

>>713893194
You have no idea what SKG is retard

>>713899741
>even in universities I had english classes teaching extremely basic english
I did a year of exchange studies in France while at university and two French students asked me to listen to their presentations and give tips for their English class. It was pretty funny when they were at an elementary school level compared to my Scandi country. They were in tech, but I guess the French industry is large enough that you can survive on mostly French throughout your working life.

>>713903549
Think of the 6 gorrillion game developers who died in the holocaust.

>>713903423
Walmart what? Walmart doesn't have a monopoly you retard.

>>713903549

>>713903572
Statist bootlicker. You deserved to have your “government” executed in the Cola Wars for the good of the free market.

>>713903546
>stop large companies from doing whatever they want to smaller ones
No, to stop anyone from doing harm to others. Not the same thing, retard.

>>713903302
the law sometimes saves the idiots from themselves, you can't trust the average idiot to have their own best interests in mind

>>713903710
Sounds like an arbitrary statist restriction on the path of the free market.

>>713903730
Why should you retards be saved from yourselves? I want less of you, not more of you.

>>713903792
That is because you have no idea what you are talking about and are outing yourself as an idiot. What is it that free market people tend to mention all the time? Something called the Non-Aggression Policy? Ring any bells?

>>713903572
Huhuh, and what do we call when the government uses its strength to prevent a company from doing whatever it wants, especially stopping them from taking extreme actions? I'll give you a hint it's start with a R.

>>713903572
Use your sources to support your argument (in ways the fit this particular context) if you have them. "Read up on X" or "google it" does nothing.

>>713903730
>you now remember AlterIWnet
Good times

>>713902727
>You're saying that as someone who introduced the idea of being bought out.
How do you think bankrupcy works exactly? Because so far I'm not even convinced you know anything about it.

>no one said anything about taxes or regulations
Pretty retarded to ask a question about what happens when a company goes bankrupt if skg becomes a regulation then.

>If it uses third party servers for instance, those don't belong to the company that went down
True, so they wouldn't be going anywhere since it's not them going bankrupt and the new studio owner can just set up new servers with that same third party provider. The servers getting repurposed or whatever is not a challenge either. Either the game ran entirely on the code from the third party since it wouldn't be a custom job, which they wouldn't need to do anything other setting up new servers.
Or it is a custom code that the third party ran, in which case, that code is always going to have an offline back up at the studio and is part of the assets for the game, at which point the new owner can just set up new servers, either with the same server provider or a different one.

We could have made real progress for consumer rights, I can't believe one narcissistic furry roach's ego stopped it

Why did Ross wait until now to tell the truth?

>>713903302
If we assume they're not just trolls, my guess would be that we're dealing with younger people who grew up in this always-online DRM hell scape. They grew up in a Steam and Ubisoft world where giant corporations decide what and when you get to play your games. They can't fathom the freedom we had.

Thor won bigly.

> 24k+ added today
and there is still 6 more hours, would be nice if the petition got nice rounded 30k before end of the day

>>713903954
>You don't understand! I wish to remain ignorant!

>>713903419
>you can't tell the difference between decompiled code, compiled code, backend, server binaries and documentation describing the process.
It doesn't matter, it's all covered by copyright.
Right now you're just spewing whatever you can to sound legitimate instead of addressing the thing you should be which you clearly either don't understand or are just in denial about.
>in spite of Doom having its source code released years ago and neither Id nor Bethesda losing their copyright
See what I mean.
The source code for the game and the IP Doom are two entirely different things, not just one big thing unless you're suggesting that dark ages uses the original source code.
Here's a better example for you though, Nintendo owns Donkey Kong the property, the monkeys and all that, but the code for the original arcade game belonged to Ikegami Tsushinki and they attempted to sue Nintendo when they reverse engineered it for the sequels.

Are you starting to understand this a little better?

>>713903951
The non-aggression policy doesn’t apply to citizen-products under the urine autonomous zones, unfortunately. The colaborn are natural resources dependent on Pissco for their life, and thus owe a debt to pissco for their first 60 years of existence.

>>713904119
Yeah, keep making up scenarios to justify why you need to keep licking the government boot

>>713899684
>dude we can't afford to keep the servers up, we're bankrupt
Good fucking thing SKG isn't asking for that, then

>>713904072
It seems to me that you don't even know the contents of your own source or how it could applies and could be interpreted in relation to this case. No, I'm not going to "read up on" your dumb shit unless you tell me how it's relevant.

>>713904204
I don’t need to, you need a silly statist idea like “the NAP” to stymie the profits of Pissco, faggot. Pissco has made several successful mercenary buyouts of several former “””states””” that have all positively impacted the stock price. You idea is anti-capitalist.

>>713904281
It seems to me that you are an idiot who refuses to learn anything unless spoonfed. I don't care if you understand why you are wrong when you bring up the "predatory prices" meme, just the same as I don't care about flat earth retards.

>>713904428
Can you at least tell me what does this mythical "Herbert Dow" deal with, specifically?

>>713899064
If laws were to be passed, it would mean that when you develop a game, you'd make sure it has an EOL plan built-in. This really isn't some crazy idea. It will just be another thing added to the checklist of things you need to do release a game, which includes things like having it actually fucking work

>>713904568
Or you could just not buy games that would require an EoL plan in the first place.

>>713904681
It’s a shame that it became profitable to killswitch old titles to force adoption of new games then huh

>>713904681
I already do that, but somehow more games are becoming always-online, not less. I think I'll go with the solution that'll actually solve something in practice, rather than follow this mantra that doesn't seem to be working all that well