Thread 713904771

The movement is gaining literally tens of thousands of signatures a day now. It can absolutely be accomplished at this rate.

Sign the petition and spread the message, especially to the non-english speaking Europeans.

https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home

>>713904771 (OP)
>Had to change the title to Destroy because he can't say k*ll or else they take away his ad revenue :(
Lmao nope not signing some pussy shit. Call it kill or kill yourself Moldylocks

>>713904771 (OP)
Not your personal army, faggot

>>713905035
false, its because EU website blocks possibility of writing the no-no words

You are absolutely delusional if you think this will manage to squeeze out 400k more signatures in a month

>>713905704
well it's gotten almost 200k in just a few days and still going strong

>>713905704
>You are absolutely delusional if you think this will manage to squeeze out 400k more signatures in a month
Looks like some eceleb drama works wonders for things like this.

>>713905704
Maybe, but it just got 200k in a few days, so lets hope.

Bump.
>>713905571
Cry about it piratesoftware.

nah too lazy

What happened to "Not your Personal Army" and the OP's calling for this shit getting their asses slapped by jannies? Oh my how far we have fallen.

>>713908168
To be fair they did delete the last thread.
Whether that's because op was constantly getting btfo'd or because a mod was getting sick of this pajeet shill campaign is up to you.

>>713907128
>piratesoftware
I don't even know who that is

>>713904771 (OP)
Italianchad here, glad my country is still holding strong against your tranny horde
>NOOOOOOOOO DADDY GOVERNMENT MUST FORCE COMPANIES TO MAKE THEIR GAMES ALWAYS WORK NOOOOO I WANT TO PLAY MUH OLD GAMES
get fucked troon, I remember when you faggots were spamming CP this summer

>>713905704
literally all it takes is a big italian youtuber covering it and we are done in a week

>>713908304
the ape is on the take

Every thread jerking off about concord or ugly trannies or a game having even a whiff of left-wing politics is ultimately a political thread masquerading as vidya discussion. You know I'm right.

>>713908168
The white man is back.

>>713908450
The question is are Italians parasocial enough to ignore the fact they're going to suck corporate cock.

PREASE STOP THE COUNT ROSS SAMA

PREEEEASEEE

AIIIIEEEEEE

>>713908425
ho mandato una mail a yotobi per fare un video su questa campagna

>>713908425
>NOOO HOW DARE YOU MAKE CORPOS SPEND A THOUSAND BUCKS PAYING A GUY TO MAKE THE GAMES INDEPENDENT FROM A CENTRAL SERVER

>>713908591
yeah they should suck government cock instead, right?

>>713905587
Pirate is unironically a shill. The fact he worked for the gov makes it obvious he was ordered to be a disininfo agent

delete this dogshit thread

>>713908591
that's not what parasocial means ranjeet

>>713908639
Why should corpos be forced to spend money? Why should the state tell anyone how they must spend their money?

I wanted to support this movement but after witnessing all the despicable antisemitism expressed in this thread, I must support Pirate Software and the broader Gaming Industry in their efforts to combat this initiative.

>>713908727
No, corporations and government should suck our cocks instead.

>>713908727
Same thing in this instance.

>>713904771 (OP)
The virgin PirateSoftware
>Relationship is some fuckbuddy he met via second life
>Furry
>Nepobaby, can't do shit on his own
>Fake deep voice because he sounds like a faggot irl
>Fans are ill informed morons who leave when they figure out how much of a lying bitch he is
>Get's called a roach, pisses his pants over it
>Unearned smuggness
>Everyone he interacts with thinks he's an asshole
>Coward bitch
>Corpo bootlicker
>Spent 8 years on an RPGMaker game, still nowhere near done
>Still somehow can't progress on it despite having the means to do so

The Chad Ross Scott
>Happily married to a woman who supports and loves him
>normal
>All his accomplishments are self made through sheer work and dedication
>Voice so iconic it became the defacto voice for Gordan Freeman
>Small but dedicated fanbase that's stuck with him for decades
>Get's called moldman in jest by his fans, shows he can take banter
>Humble and good hearted
>Everyone he speaks to has nothing but nice things to say about him
>Punches above his weight for things he believes in
>Hates corpos and stands up for consumer rights
>Has made countless high quality videos over the decades, plus the upcoming movie he has HAS TO MAKE!
>Still manages to put out kino despite his quest to save video games taking up so much time

Remember kids, don't be like Thor the faggot. Be like Ross the moldman and you'll live a happy and fullfilling life.

>>713908595
>guy who cosplays the virgin from the chad vs virgin meme

>>713908450
I saw some spanish one cover it yesterday.
It has around 300k views now.

ubislop employees (babel media) can suck my cock all day every day

>>713904771 (OP)
STOP SPAMMING YOUR EUROKEK NONSENSE

>>713908821
then why don't you earn enough money to become a lobbyist? We aren't living under communism, you just need a great idea and some personal sacrifices

>>713908789
You're trying to get the attention of an Italian YouTuber to make use of their fanbase and their parasocial relationships with said YouTuber to appeal to the government and change the law in a way that it benefits corporations more.

Sounds like he used parasocial correctly.

>YES DADDY GOVERNMENT REGULATE ME HARDER
kill yourself

>>713908903
>falling for the filter
go away newfag

>>713908808
calling it money is heavily overinflating how expensive it is
it's fucking pocket change

>>713908846
You don't even try to hide the reddit spacing

>>713908821
Can I join them? :3c

>>713904771 (OP)
>AAA are the main ones doing this live service garbage
>They're also the main ones creating MTX hell in full priced games
>Also raising the prices
>and about $200 of additional DLC
I legitimately want AAA gaming to die, and have it send a message to indie games not to follow in their footsteps. Cause indie gaming will always survive.
>but this will be the first step in fixing it
lol... lmao. With the sheer amount of gachafags on /v/ alone, there is no fixing this garbage. Let it burn. Let it die. It won't cause people are too retarded and will continue to throw money at it out of impulse and stupidity. Just wait for the eventual faggot to show up saying hurr durr u poor to prove my point, ironic or not. It's still the same kind of retarded stupidity that plagues us now.

>>713904771 (OP)
Why is there no American version? Why do Americans love sucking corporate cock?

>>713908938
skg would not benefit corporations

>>713908991
And why should they be forced to spend that pocket change?
Btw no one even tried to deny the CP accusations kek

>>713908846
>words
>more words
>even more words
>colossal number of words
>leviathan amount of words
>"don't be like Thor the faggot."
Woah.

>>713908960
>le corporations need to be protected against consumer backlash
off yourself faggot
turbokikes used to have to fear the general population

>>713909068
>implying burgers can do anything

>>713904771 (OP)
The way this whole thing has been pushed is so weird. The most people talking about it are Americans. Why didn't Ross get in contact with big European streamers and youtubers to push it? Those are the ones you need.
When you look at the percentages you can clearly see that the countries that are more fluent in English (North Europe especially) have a way higher engagement than the rest. Countries like Greece and Italy are still really low. Surely they've got some big vidya influencers that could be approached to push this?

reminder that ubisoft literally already changed plans and produced an offline mode for the crew 2 because they are afraid of this happening. People being able to play their old games is bad for them. It means they don't get to exploit you and encourage you to buy their new games. They have less leverage over you.

sign the fucking petition

>>713909068
>games made by corporate
[all of the greatest games ever made]
>games made by gov
OUR KIND IS NEWBORN WE ARE THE NEW PORN

>>713909090
because they're already wasting it on worthless shit as opposed to this being a pro consumer move that would cost them a pittance, you retarded bootlicker?

impressive, but the drama is dying down and so will the votes around 700k
it's pointless

>>713909193
nobody is forcing you to buy games faggot. You don't like the terms of service? Don't buy it, it's that simple

>>713909251
Greeks speak English better than Germans and Frenchmen

>>713908998
That's not what reddit spacing is, newfriend.

>>713909251
Information trickles down better by getting people with the largest audiences even if they can't directly act on it.

>>713909321
>you MUST invest your money this way, it's for your own safety goy!!
that's not a valid reason for government to tell them how to spend their money, you retarded state bootlicker

>>713909328
i'll just stir up more drama in a week

>>713909308
look friends, the endgoal of social justice warriors like this is to turn you into an enslaved corporate cuck too mad about retarded pink-haired people being annoying to care when you're getting robbed. remember this!

>>713908998
>Reddit spacing

>Is like this

dumbass.

>>713909361
Okay, all the big franchises introduce the ToS+CoC+tip system, now what big boy?

>>713909361
>regulations bad
go to china and die after a chink skyscraper made of cardboard collapses on you

>>713909081
It definitely doesn't benefit consumers since you can just not buy the bad game, something people have been on point with in the last few years and the vague nature of it leaves a lot of holes for companies to exploit

>>713909519

Reddit spacing is supposed to space between the quoted post number and the post.

Like this.

>>713909401
Maybe some big German or French influencer picked it up then. Either way, getting a Greek or Italian influencer to push this would do a lot more than sticking to the same American ones that already talked about this a year ago I'd say.

>>713904771 (OP)
Piracy man. Learn it once and never ever get cucked by faggot corps again.
Keep going though, I want to see europeans get a headache.

This shit is obviously delusional and never gonna happen,. but sign it anyway to make maldavius figtree angry

>>713909532
you either stop buying games or adapt. If enough people stop buying games, then they'll be forced to change the TOS

>>713905704
Nice try, amerimutt. The current projection is positive. It's only about keeping the momentum.

>>713909401
Excuse me, we Krauts are still above Greeks in this regard!

>>713909603
i wish we lived in the fantasy world where voting with my wallet worked

>>713909452
>what's that? i'm forced to do something for the consumer instead of spending it on trannies?!?!?!? AIEEEE SAVE ME LIBERTARIANS!!!!

>>713909576
>regulations bad
Yes. Why don't (You) go to China since you enjoy communism so much?

>>713909638
Then the post doesn't have reddit spacing lol

>>713909068
USA courts have already ruled in favor of revoking licenses at any time for any or no reason as legal. EU is still uncertain because it might conflict with an EU law protecting software license owners from deliberate removal of content.

>>713909747
Piracy caused this problem in the first place. Due to piracy, companies decided giving self-contained software was too risky and everything needs to be always online dependent on a central server.

>FurrySoftware needs an army of jeets to protect him and big corpo from consequences of their actions
wew

>Like 1k signatures every 15-20min
Crazy

>>713909824
Good thing it isn't a fantasy world and voting with your wallet actually works.

>>713909603
let's see what some of the best selling games are this year!
>monster hunter wilds (shit)
>assassin's creed shadows (ubishit, also wasn't this game supposed to be a guaranteed failure that instantly killed the studio wtf)
>Oblivion remaster (a mediocre game from 20 years ago with better graphics)
it's looking grim...

this isn't about good games this is about keeping your property which even good games typically fail to do

>>713904771 (OP)
Sorry but the jannies are in on it. Your movement must fail. A lot of money is thanks to thing being kept vague as they are.

>>713909887
Grim, truly, Americans are the perfect slave caste.

Give me reasons why this isn't a good idea because I can't see this being bad for consumers

>>713909898
And people say voting with your wallet doesn't work.

I'm shilling it again, but this is the most well-spoken video on the subject yet:
https://youtu.be/xAVNxAVal1U

>>713905035
Are you an actual schizo? Do you assume things are real just because you imagined them? Or are you just having a brain fart? The web site is still calling Stop Killing Games and he also calls it that in the titles of all his relevant videos. All you had to do was go and look, but instead you made up delusional bullshit in your head and then believed it.

>>713909978
>It could make dev significantly more complicated for games that rely on third party services
>the EU could fuck up in legislating it (the consequences of this are unknowable but they did a good job standardizing chargers at least)

>>713908425
Inferior white.

>>713908595
I nostri connazionali sono troppo handicappati per votare.
Siamo in ultimo posto tra gli europei, ancora una volta.

>>713908591
Italians' abstention is a cultural problem...

>>713909860
>no actually 18th century capitalism good

>>713909978
It gives the state power to dictate where companies must allocate their money
It kills online indie games by forcing devs to plan for endless support
It gives the state more control over the industry and the market

>>713910136
>It could make dev significantly more complicated for games that rely on third party services
How is this a bad thing? If you are unable to do it properly is better not to do it at all.

>>713910194
>economic boom and scientific advancement good
Yes.

>>713910196
>It gives the state power to dictate where companies must allocate their money
That's basically all regulation. A lot of corporations could save money by dumping toxic waste directly into your neighborhood's drinking water.

>>713909978
Neither I can see it being good for a consumer

>>713910240
I like ambitious MMOslop type games like Star Citizen and Planetside.
I think you could probably legislate around those kinds of issues anyway.

>>713910274
until you're a child working the fucking coalmines

>>713909943
>let's see what some of the best selling games are this year!
>proceeds to list one game that sold 10m on name alone and is currently bleeding players, a game that was such catastrophic failure for the series that they didn't even want to release sales numbers and a remake of a game that people like
I wonder what was going through your head when you made this post

the answer is nothing because you looked at the Google AI overview that didn't even list the actual best sellers.

>>713910274
>economic boom and scientific advancement good
Retard, the period in which both of this happened the most is directly post WW2, where the regulations on companies (and taxes) were at their highest ever.

>>713910196
This is not giving the EU any more power than they already have. They already enforce consumer law, the problem is that they're currently not doing it in this specific case

>>713910196
>endless support

>>713909978
There are literally no reason, many here are misinforming or don't know what they are talking about.
It cost nothing to let us play offline, but people makes it like the poor corpos have to pay billions.

>>713910335
>noooo children must go to school to get their state indoctrination!!
some children are better off working. Lots of classmates from middle school couldn't wait to drop out and work the fields
Working is more fulfilling than school and gives you independence and life experience, without turning you into a leftist tranny

>>713910447
how would the EU enforce anything on a Korean developer?

>>713909978
there isn't a reason

>>713910468
Not even trying to hide your broken English are you, Ramood?

>>713910525
Same way they enforced Apple changing its charger in the USA?

>>713908808
Because otherwise theyre yoinking the product you paid for out of your reach. You may as well as why the customer should pay money when they can just pirate.

This initiative needs to work out so I can play EOS gacha with all the bitches unlocked.

>>713910472
ok now you're baiting
le invisible hand of the free market and voting with your wallet brought in gacha and microtransactions and you think it'll magically fix itself

>>713910472
actually insane post

dont even care if you're trolling, this is actually insane

>>713910525
How does China enforce mainstream American movies never criticizing China?
By having a market in which the Korean developer wants to sell games. Or if that's not the case, the Korean developer is free to choose getting banned in the EU.

>>713910136
I don't care if it's more complicated for the devs and I'm sure it will be solved quickly and become standard
As for fucking up the legislation, I don't see how they would fuck it up in a way that would harm consumers

>>713910196
>It gives the state power to dictate where companies must allocate their money
They already do this
>It kills online indie games by forcing devs to plan for endless support
All they have to do is release a server package or simply design things in a way that you can do everything client side
>It gives the state more control over the industry and the market
They already have full control of the market

>>713910303
>Neither I can see it being good for a consumer
It makes it so devs can't stop you from playing a game you paid for, how is that not good for the consumer?

>>713910525
>smartest anti-SKG shill
If the Korean developer wants to sell in the European market they have to comply with EU regulations

>>713910597
didn't know that. What the fuck is this world government shit? I didn't sign up for this

Americans actually shill for corporations for free, it's really sad.

>>713910660
>i-it's insane cause daddy gov told me so!

>>713910596
>the amerimutt has no arguments

>>713910737
Assuming that people who do a thing are American is not proof that Americans do those things.

>>713910383
ackchyually I checked the gamespot article (which sources circana, a market research company) which the AI overview probably sourced with the exact same top 3 listing.

It's possible that games just aren't selling well in general this year as I'd heard Shadows didn't sell that great either but I also believe there were a lot of annoying people trying to exaggerate that failure as much as they possibly could for weird political spectacle reasons as they always do now.

>>713910680
Now is there a game where the EU market presence is substantial enough?

>>713910630
It would if people weren't retarded

>>713910864
That's for the developer to decide. If they want to get banned in the EU then they can violate EU regulations all they want.

>>713910828
The USA and by extension Americans being so rampantly anti consumer and pro corporations is though.

>>713910696
The American mind cannot comprehend a society where companies aren't above people

>>713910660
the people I know who dropped out of school at 16 to go work as farmers or mechanics lead much happier lives than most of us who kept studying
They are all financially independent and have actual real world experience. Most of them started working at 12-13 and always loved it. They also enjoyed having more free time

>>713910696
>I don't see how they would fuck it up in a way that would harm consumers
Purely devil's advocate, but if they went too aggressive in a way that discourages developers from making certain kinds of games (from a gameplay standpoint,) I'd consider that harming consumers as I want to play a wide variety of games.

>>713910925
nah, they just won't make specific eu servers. Want to play - join a server in America/Asia.

>>713910986
what are companies made of?

>>713909978
For starters it'll be the first real instance of direct government intervention in an entertainment sector.
Second, it's an attempt at controlling what you can and can't own as a creator.
Third, it doesn't affect games as a service, oddly enough those games that SHOULD be the target are completely exempt.

And finally, you should jaut be against it on principle since the person who wrote the FAQ doesn't know a lick about EU law and considers a licence separate from a "good" making it come off as very manipulative.

>>713905571
dont kill yourself

>>713904771 (OP)
>at the rate my baby is growing, he'll weigh a ton when he reaches the age of 10!
Anon Imma be real with you, this is possible but it'd require a big push at the end by major personalities. I'd say giganormie youtubers like Mr Beast and Pewdiepie. And potentially traditional celebrities like a famous actor or singer. If the people responsible for this initiative want it to succeed they should be hitting up as many famous people as possible.

>>713910878
>my system would work if we brainwashed everyone
so you have that in common with commies you bash so much
it's much easier to just fix this via government you ape

>>713908846
Thank you for your in-depth analysis of an absolute clown of a pile of mold and Ross Scott, leader of the SKG movement. I will sit out on my porch and think about how I'm not a fucking loser like Jason "thor" Figtree

>>713911156
>Second, it's an attempt at controlling what you can and can't own as a creator.
Fuck off, if you're selling someone a product you lose control over it. End of. You don't get to play the "b-but I intended it as an ephemeral experience!" card if you made someone spend 70 bucks.

>>713910630
Microtransactions come from copyright law which is not free market
>>713910660
He's right though, 99% of people hate studying, they only do it because they want to a job that pays well, in most countries stundents drop out or just finish compulsory educations to find a job

>>713911092
>join a server in America/Asia.
Now that would be interesting to watch if the petition succeeds. A EU citizen would be in violation if she joins a server not approved by the EU. I'm sure they'll sneak that one in the actual legislation.

>>713910720
Dumb nigger, they forced Apple to make their products USB-C compatible because they were literally the only company still trying to push their own proprietary cables.

tradesmen have more stable careers at the moment but also some of the tradesmen i know are the most miserable, bitter, ignorant people on the planet. Often in denial about it but with a contempt for others that borders on misanthropy.

>>713911179
no need to brainwash anyone, if I don't like a game's TOS then I don't buy it. If others want to buy it then it's on them
Natural selection

>>713909978
None. All arguments against the movement have been said by piratesoftware. Note: piratesoftware is a compulsive liar, clinical narcissist, ugly furry, and is most likely going to troon out to try and being his perpetual bullshitting and lies to the lesbian dating apps of the world.

>>713911341
and proprietary cables are bad because?

>>713911269
>Microtransactions come from copyright law which is not free market
????
microtransactions come from a corporation selling them and you not being able to host your own servers

>>713910720
You should google all the other consumer friendly legislations you use around the world thanks to the EU, another one is Steam refunds, 2027 you will also have removable batteries on your phones again.

>>713911435
and universal standards are bad because?

>>713911461
Microtransactions are tied to DRM no?

>>713911092
If they're charging money for the game in the EU then they would still have to comply with EU regulations regardless of where the severs are located. A developer will make a lot more money by selling in the EU market then it would cost to have an end of life plan for a game, therefore they are effectively forced to comply, purely from a profit standpoint (which is what matters)

>>713911416
All arguments in favor of the movement have been said by shills on 4chan who try to recruit others in their personal army and post CP when things don't go as they plan

>>713911387
I have risen a government that prevents your retarded scenario of people slowly killing themselves and making themselves miserable under the heel of unchecked corporate abuse.This has emerged organically from humanity's evolution with no outside intervention. natural selection.

>>713911156
>For starters it'll be the first real instance of direct government intervention in an entertainment sector.
Not true and I don't see why it would matter anyway
>Second, it's an attempt at controlling what you can and can't own as a creator.
They aren't changing ownership of anything, they are just protecting the ownership the consumers have over shit they paid for
>Third, it doesn't affect games as a service, oddly enough those games that SHOULD be the target are completely exempt.
At least with those games you know your play time is limited to the amount of time you pay for the service. I think those games should also be affected tho

>>713911387
yeah, natural selection is why gacha is the biggest gaming moneymaker on the planet
survival of the fittest hasn't applied to humans for several decades

>>713911539
>shills on 4chan who try to recruit others in their personal army and post CP when things don't go as they plan
Sup Maldavius? SnooPINGAS usual, I see. Up to your usual lies and bullshittery.

>>713911435
They always change their proprietary things with other proprietary things, forcing you to buy something new that you don't need. Forced e-waste and forced costs.

>>713908742
i doubt he had to be ordered
he became a "director of strategy" (what ever that means) for a game publisher just prior to his SKG drama, which of course harms publishers
the company website of course doesn't mention him at all but it is mentioned on wikipedia (since he probably edited it himself)

>>713911530
well, they won't sell in the eu either. Just "migrate" to the correct country. Nowadays the whole process takes like two or three clicks.

>>713910838
>checked the gamespot article
You mean the one about the top selling games in the US?
>which sources circana, a market research company
You mean the market research company that doesn't have data from a solid chunk of publishers most notably the digital sales from Nintendo?

>but I also believe there were a lot of annoying people trying to exaggerate that failure
No, for all their
>it has 5 million players!
They did it only sold about 2 and stagnated.

>woke commie faggots need the government to save them because corps won't run their gachashit forever
Embarrassing.

>>713911514
Because it stops innovation and you'll be forced to use a shit cable until the end of times. Imagine if the EU this decision back when we were using serial cables.

...Technically this could hurt or maybe even kill gachas, at the very least in the west, because now the FOMO of one getting sunsetted is not going to be as prevalent

>>713911529
they're rooted in being connected to a central server which you can never bypass if the corpos had their way

>>713911625
Gacha is a money machine because zoomers are the most retarded generation ever born, surpassing boomer's nadir

>>713911545
so true! Fuck those evil nazi chuds and their freedumbs!
#stayhome #wearamask #fauciouchie #blm #blackqueertranslivesmatter

>>713911435
Walled gardens ecosystem products tend to be bad for consumers as they remove all form of competition within a product category and can set prices arbitrarily.
You wouldn't chanhe your phone, laptop or whatever, just because apple decides to change the cable standard or hike up prices to 200 bucks for a replacement cable.

>>713911803
>innovation
yeah, apple did a lot with their proprietary cable that no one else can do like... uhh... help me out here guys?

The Luxembourgers bourgeois won't sign it

>>713911912
it's funny how you spam all these buzzwords in service of becoming an even more cucked individual underneath conservatism.

>>713911719
that's a barrier to entry would result in a massive loss of EU sales; it would still be far cheaper to just have a procedure for not destroying the game

>>713911814
Haven't multiple gachas already released offline modes after their death, or was that just a figment of my imagination? It's not impossible to preserve a fucking auto-battler, all you really need to do is remove the need to purchase roll currency

>>713911803
>Because it stops innovation and you'll be forced to use a shit cable until the end of times.
Shit man, you're right, we never moved to the metric system, just stuck with Imperial. Same with seatbelts, and car safety in general. If things get standardised, nothing ever progresses. You're right.

>>713911803
Apple is free to go help USB innovate their next cable

>>713909068
Because it'd be antisemitic to do otherwise

>>713908425
>Italiantard doesn't realise CP was posted by opposition trying to shut down the threads
eating only pasta really does affect brain development, huh?

>>713909251
He literally doesn't speak the language and his channel isn't big enough for anyone to even look at him.
Meanwhile the rest of his community are all introverts with no social skills who would start crying if they were told to contact someone.

>>713911943
Yes.
USB-C's creators sure thought so too since it's was inspired and created in response to Apple's lightning cable.

>>713904771 (OP)
There's literally nothing wrong with lost media

>>713912002
I can't think of a single one.

>>713912185
C was created because micro B fucking sucked and was clearly an intermediary standard

>>713911745
I don't doubt that it didn't exactly overperform, but it seems like it sold less than ubisoft wanted but more than people like you wanted the more I read into it. It's AC, Ubisoft pumps them out because they're reliably selling slop. Internet outrage wasn't going to change that. It's no star wars outlaws.

Allegedly it's sold 3.4 million which would put it just ahead of stuff like KCD.

>>713912023
Imperial is better than metric because you can divide units by 3 and 4.
"Hans, pass me the 0.3333333... periodic mm wood plank"

>>713912237
>t. has embarrassing footage on the internet

>>713911814
It wouldn't harm the current gatchas because it wouldn't be retroactive. And gatchas made after this theoretically passes would probably just use the following workaround:
>stay free to play, but free to play players can't participate in microtransactions
>start requiring a €1/month subscription if you want to participate in microtransactions
This way they can claim that microtransactions are an addon to their subscription service, thus they would still be treated as an actual service (like WoW) and would not be required to provide an end of life build/plan.
And free to play players are not entitled to a working game after it shuts down because no money has exchanged hands.

>>713911803
>innovation
You are right man. Sure the old cable was 13 years old and utterly outdated. And OK, so apple had no plans at all on ever improving. But just think! One day they might have made a cable almost as good as an old USB 2.0.

>>713911193
You're welcome, brother. Anytime morale gets low just remind yourself that at least you're not "Thor" the little lying bitch. Better Moldman than Maldman!

>>713912071
Won't happen since now you are forced the piece of shit connector that is USB-C until the end of times, enjoy

There's some trickle down economic faggots here, I can smell them. Hope they contract some incurable disease and their government doesn't regulate the price of the drugs they need.

Buy an ad.

>>713912323
Nothing is stopping you from saying 1/3 mm

>>713912323
what if you want a 0.3333334 one? how would you express that in imperial?

>>713912323
Do you even know how many millimiters there are in an inch?

>>713904771 (OP)
Pitch this to me.
Sounds like its mostly for slop like mmos and games as a service shit.
Tell me why an offline single player CHAD like myself should care when I can download said games off the net.

>>713912530
Stop killing /v/.

>>713911618
>Not true and I don't see why it would matter anyway
Simple, it's overstepping the boundaries of the government. And yes, it would be the first. Regulatory bodies like pegi, esrb, CERO whatever are one thing but they aren't forcibly changing a game or forcing you to give something up.
>they are just protecting the ownership the consumers have over shit they paid for
It doesn't affect consumer ownership in the slightest. You're just demanding that creators lose their control over their property which in this case would be over server software.
As much as someone is going to pull the old
>DEVS GAVE THEM OUT WAY BACK THE AND THEY STILL OWN THEIR GAMES!!!
"argument"
1) it was alway their choice to do so
2) server software and the actual property are two different things where copyright is concerned.
>At least with those games you know your play time is limited to the amount of time you pay for the service.
You're confusing games as a service for subscriptions.
Games as a service have no end date, then can be taken down at any time

>>713912162
dude pasta lmao! did you learn that one on reddit?

It's funny how eager Europe is to give away all of their rights.

Want to make a game with non-standard server architecture? No, you can't because there was this really mediocre online racing game once and people can't play it anymore.

>>713912282
Yes, Micro USB sucked in comparison to it's competitor, Lightening.
Guess what connector the EU tried to standardize? You guessed it, micro USB.
USB C is a piece of shit too and now we are stuck with iy because 1 (one) device dared to use a better connector which made the EU seethe with rage.

>>713904771 (OP)
sounds like kikes trying to make you self report on being a "problematic gamer" especially since it's shilled by asmon critical and muta the 3 horsemen of trans rights

>>713912413
USB-C is pretty close to perfect for it's use cases so I don't see a problem

>>713912647
every year a higher percentage of (major budget) games need always online, giving them a limited life before dying forever

>>713912548
And 10/3 is...

>>713912413
I am enjoying the USB-C, you Apple bootlicker

>>713912647
This problem will likely spread if it isn't stopped now. The number of games that are online-only is only increasing. If companies are emboldened to abuse consumer rights in this case, don't expect it to stop here.
Also it will make Ubishit seethe

jannies are in for a bad surprise if they think they can just silence half of this board

>>713912647
>buy and play diablo 4
>blizzard shuts off servers
>you can no longer play diablo 4
Now you might not care about diablo 4 but just replace it with a game you like and you can see why it's a problem

>>713905571
hello pirate soft cuck

>>713912413
Name a better connector. I'll wait.

>>713912785
>every year a higher percentage of (major budget) games need always online
Actually less and less games are employing DRM and on pc it usually lasts about a year.

>>713912314
Maybe closer to 3 million the more I look?

>>713912647
>Tell me why an offline single player CHAD like myself should care when I can download said games off the net.
They're starting to slip in always online central server dependence into single player games to fight piracy. One of these days you're going to download a single player game only to find out it doesn't work because it can't connect to the central server.

>>>/pol/
Not videogames, fuck off.

>gov gives tax breaks to lobbyists and friends
>big investment firms print money for free and pump up companies they want to see do well
>big companies legislate for monopolies, offshore work, hire jeets, and destroy small competitors using every unfair advantage they can
you, a little 'muh capitalism' faggot
>"vote with your wallet so everything is fair!"

>>713912850
You think you make up half the board? >>713912920
>One of these days you're going to download a single player game only to find out it doesn't work because it can't connect to the central server.
Well, no

>>713912713
imagine being this irreparably mindraped

>>713908425
hey newfag, you can't just say troon and think it will miraculously make you right

>>713912665
Clearly you can only reply whenever pasta is mentioned otherwise you wouldn't even acknowledge the reply. At least try reading what actually matters (hint, it's the text before "pasta")

>good devs will come out completely unaffected
>bad devs will have to spend a tiny bit of dev time to sunset their game properly
who is getting upset over this exactly?

>>713912675
>lightning
>better than usb c
lmao

>>713912973
>>>/tiktok/
It's literally video games, fuck off.

>>713912650
>it's overstepping the boundaries of the government
Lol he actually thinks corporations are above the government

Also devs don't have to give out server software if they just patch the client to not need the server

Games are now selling hundreds of millions of copies.
SO HOW IS IT THIS HARD TO GET 1 MILLION EUROPOORS TO SIGN THE DAMN PETITION!
WITH HOW LONG THIS IS TAKING, I COULD'VE GOTTEN A BRIT CITIZENSHIP AND SIGNED IT MYSELF!

>>713908530
okay, what does it have yo do with this?

>>713912785
Then they can die for all I care. Dont mind losing some features but if the game requires me to ask someone else to play the game then die.

>>713912812
The Ubisoft shit is a compelling argument. But as mentioned above if they make online games, I dont care what they do with them or the fags willingly throwing money at it.

>>713904771 (OP)
Stop playing the same shit game over and over again for 30 years, you fucking sperg. Beat game. Move onto next game. Simple as. No video game ever made is worth beating 20+ times, just MOVE ON.

>>713912673
>Europe has no rights!
This is your brain on american propaganda. Europe is such a good place to live in it's insane. Whatever your supreme leader Trump is telling you is a lie.

>>713913051
>EU initiative
>brit citizenship
am i missing something

>>713913051
brtis are no longer eu citizen

>>713913024
>bad devs will have to spend a tiny bit of dev time to sunset their game properly
They don't even need to do this. They can just, you know, NOT build a kill switch into their software. You have to go out of your way to add one, so it kind of makes sense to ask people who go out of their way to add one to go out of their way to remove it.

>>713908808
>why shouldn't they put lead in my tomatoes?

>>713912731
Flimsy and never fits snugly. The connector deforms inwards since it has a hole inside, and the port (on the devices) is the flimsiest and weakest part, and good luck replacing a port.
>>713912884
Lightning hands down
>>713913034
Yup.

>>713913050
>Lol he actually thinks corporations are above the government
You are aware that this wouldn't just affect companies, right?
>Also devs don't have to give out server software if they just patch the client to not need the server
Same diff, the point is that it's taking away the choice a creator has.
Also I'd like to see your suggestion for patching a multiplayer focused game. At that point you're just asking for them to make a whole new game for free.

>>713913041
I don't see any videogames here, only /pol/shits trying to push their bootlicking petition.

>>713913189
I'm pro-killing games, but these bad faith straw men arguments by the people is incredibly shameful. You're only hurting the cause with this shit.

>>713913051
Brits are not in the eu anymore and even you wish they play only Fifa or PES anyway so they won't give a shit

>>713913126
It's entirely possible that a single player game you enjoy in the future could have an always online requirement. It's just naivete or a failure of imagination if you can't see that. Anyway, it only takes a minute to sign the petition if you're in the EU. Just do it to spite the Ubisoft jew if you don't care either way

>>713913225
>good luck replacing a port.
That's where you bring right to repair legislation in to stop corporations from blocking you from repairing your device

>>713910316
Hasn't Star Citizen constantly scammed their fanbase while draining more and more money from them with ridiculous "microtransactions"?

>>713913331
Look harder retard

>>713909887
>Piracy caused this problem in the first place.
when's that lie gonna die?

>>713913314
>Same diff, the point is that it's taking away the choice a creator has.
Fuck the government, I'm going to sell fentanyl laced burgers and they can't stop me because lacing them is my choice

>>713913408
I mean, it's not exactly a strawman given that's actually what's happening. Very few games have intrusive drm like this nowadays and with each passing year less and less are released.

if that thing passes, good games will stop being made

>>713912872
I dont follow that many franchises and of the ones I do its VERY unlikely they will go full online shit.

>>713912920
Well thanks to emulation and consoles I dont have to worry about cucking out to steam to put some shitty coom mods.
I doubt random indie pc exclusives with drm are going to be worth the effort.

>>713913681
Yes anon, because sustenance and entertainment are comparable.

>>713913686
>with each passing year less and less are released.
This is blatantly false even if you ignore the biggest offending platforms (mobile)

>>713913784
>VERY unlikely
But not impossible, which is why you should support this to make it impossible

>>713913530
Anon, think of all the gadgets and chinkware in your house. Think of the usb ports on your PC mobo.
Shit has the port soldered to the chip, it's not realistic to have have some replaceable port on any knicker.

>>713913024
ubisoft is really mad at the idea of people being able to play old games instead of their latest sloppa

>>713913681
Imagine being American and seeing everything as food.

>>713904771 (OP)
holy fuck I just now realized that the guy pushing this petition is the same guy who made Freeman's mind 20 years ago

>>713913686
no one expects this shit to be retroactive for abandonware
if you still sell the game you have to fix it
that's it

>>713913493
>petition if you're in the EU.
Not from there so I guess this will fail.

>>713913802
Fuck the government, I'm going to sell CP and they can't stop me because it's my choice to use child actors

>>713904771 (OP)
You can't force a company to keep a service running forever. At best this will lead to a "We have the right to turn off the game whenever we choose" disclaimer in the EULA.

>>713913932
I didn't say anything about it being retroactive.

>>713913214
because everyone would get sick or die and there would be nobody left to buy tomatoes?

>>713913994
read the faq

>>713913994
you can force a company to release the server files and tweak shit to not ask for a central server

>>713905571
>/V/

>>713913861
It's soldered which means you can heat the solder, remove the broken port and then solder in a working port

>>713913994
>You can't force a company to keep a service running forever
That's why all a company has to do is leave people the tools to make their own private servers.

>>713914056
too long didn't read

>>713913852
>This is blatantly false
You can say its false all you want but the closest thing to DRM like that nowadays is Denuvo and maybe an account check.

>>713913994
>force a company to keep a service running forever
You failed to understand the goal. Right now it's either sunset patch that allows players accessing game without server requirement and company doesn't need to support the game anymore.

If this passes it will literally result in another holobunga

so they need a million signatures or it just "doesnt count" ?? so like if it only reaches 900k signatures the EU council of faggots will just ignore it? lmao

>>713910136
>significantly more complicated
'Significantly' doing all the lifting here, but never a single concrete example of why it would be too complex is ever stated. It's because the people saying this have no idea what they're talking about, and networking isn't that difficult

>>713913408
I don't have to do anything. There is no cause. There is no goal. This will never succeed. It is silly, and you are a clown who was baited into wasting their time because a youtuber said so. If I have to see these shit promo/ad threads. Then I am going to fucking mock you. Now sit down an cry while I post the funnies. You retard.

>>713914146
You can't force them to patch an existing game either, what if they run out of money? Are they supposed to do it for free?

>>713913994
You can however stop a company from offering an illegal service.
Games/software don't actually HAVE to be services. They could just be products instead.

>>713914090
Demanding a standard that doesn't have shit ports is not an option at all I guess.

>>713908595
>>713910165
siete ancora, come sempre, dei poveri COMUNISTI

>>713913994
That EULA wouldn't be legal and all they have to do is patch out the online requirement or provide the files needed to run your own server

If you want to know if you should support it just look at the people shilling it. The bums and the pajeet

>>713914221
Yes because it's more than a petition and it's a structured process with identity verification where exactly a million signatures will force them to look over it.

>daily signatures already halved
EL. EM. FUCKING. AO!

you shouldnt not support the this petition

>>713914313
>they look over it
>jewish handlers tell them to ignore it
we did it!

>>713905704
Sadly likely given how quick the retards online forget about things, but there is still a chance this could push it over the finish line, and I'm willing to hope for that.

>>713914406
>>713914381
>>713914372
>>713914313
>>713914305
Good morning saaars!

>>713914278
I've never had issues with my USB-C ports so I don't see the issue

>>713914117
it is a complex problem that requires a complex explanation
there are a lot of bad actors roaming around the threads, xitter, youtube and pisscord, spreading misinformation and FUD
you can't expect people to give you a QRD of what european union laws say (and don't say) about the protection of consumer rights when the purchase of digital goods is involved

i implore you to read the faq (or at least, watch the giant faq accursed farms video about it) before interacting with thread shills. that's all.

would be a real shame if a Negro enters thor's home and tears his white bussy apart with the BBC

>>713914265
Or developers could just make a game that doesn't depend on a central server? Then you don't even have to spend any money maintaining a server on top of not having to patch a game.

I'm pro killing games, but you really need to stop with this bad faith strawman arguments about "demanding maintenance" because it distracts from the real reason why pro killing games is the correct position (property rights).

>>713914305
Or just look at the only person calling it bad, a wannabe dev tranny who has never done anything in his life

>>713914496
Negroes don't have buck breaking cocks, they have tbps.

>>713914406
Where were the jews when the GDPR happened???

>>713914562
just like Hitler was called bad by the entire kike world?

>>713912279
Megaman x dive is the only one I can think of

If Britain was still in the EU it would have easily hit 1 million

>>713914305
All it takes is 5 minutes of interacting with SKG schizos to turn ordinary folks away. Ask them again. Make them answer the questions every fucking thread. Just look at the replies you'll get.

1.) How do you enforce this.
2.) What is the punishment for failure to comply should you succeed.

They don't have answers. They don't care. One guy wants fines. Another thinks the death penalty is appropriate. They don't know if they are targeting solo indie devs. Studios, maybe they just want to target people who have dev software. It's a fucking mystery. Say good bye to any sort of imaginary privacy you have left if this pans out I guess, Either way, 100% of the time you're going to be greeted by an absolute dickheaded clown. A barely sentient loser. Who thinks stringing fuck you together 69 times counts as valid communication of the idea.

>>713914562
There are more poeple on earth who will never sign this than people who will. The extreme majority of planet earth is telling you. This is a stupid cause to fight for. You just can't accept it though. The air you breathe in your bubble is all that matters and the echo of your own farts.

>>713914119
Well that's a problem. How do you play the game once account checking services no longer work? You still have ownership of the game or the license, but it's rendered defunct.

>>713913784
what reason do you have to not want this? It's objectively good for you but you argue that you shouldn't care regardless because...

>>713914736
Are you calling that tranny Hitler?

>>713911143
In America, corporations are legally people so your snakry reddit-tier retort doesn't work.

>>713914624
>have the do not track option in the browser where you just set DNT once and forever
>EJew: doesn't enforce it and instead fills the internet with shit popups that every normalfag clicks accept on
A-another win for Europe with GDPR...!

>>713914770
Well yeah, this country is nothing but corporate sluts.

>>713914834
Hitler was a tranny

>>713914779
>1.) How do you enforce this.
Are you seriously asking "how to enforce law"?
>2.) What is the punishment for failure to comply should you succeed.
Full or partial refunds, obviously.

>>713914875
Huh?

>>713913994
This is not about running a server forever, dumb nigger...

>>713904771 (OP)
petitions never work, replace your governments instead.

>>713911435
non-innovative patent that stifles healthy competition

>>713914893
I think you should call your school and ask for a refund

>>713908540
You're retarded

>>713914779
>There are more poeple on earth who will never sign this than people who will. The extreme majority of planet earth is telling you. This is a stupid cause to fight for. You just can't accept it though. The air you breathe in your bubble is all that matters and the echo of your own farts.

it's worth an attempt.
if there is one hill to die for, i'm picking this one

>>713915006
The kikes running it would never allow it

>>713914834
No, I'm saying these controlled grifters uniting and pushing this agenda feels similar to every kike controlled country uniting to demonize Germany. Especially people like Critical and Upper Echelon who see no problem with forced faggots and niggers in videogames. I don't see this as organic at all.

>>713914779
>1.) How do you enforce this.
charge devs their earnings from microtransactions for every day the servers are discontinued and not provided to the internet at large to host their own servers like every fucking game that this happens to does.

>law
don't care law shouldn't exist, police are a gang and are the real criminals.

>>713915045
>me in the blue shirt, refusing to sign the petition

>>713914779
>The extreme majority of planet earth is telling you. This is a stupid cause to fight for.
Go and ask them if they think they should own what they buy.

>>713911926
Apple sold USB-C to Lightning dongles with every device

>>713914974
>what do you mean you want the government to ban slave ownership? Can't you see how bad this would be for you the slave

>>713908846
>normal
The great thing about Ross is that he isn't. His wife was a fan, he lives in Poland eating beans, and his living is talking about random games.
>>Get's called moldman in jest by his fans, shows he can take banter
I can't think of anyone who would get pissed at getting called moldman. Insults are about hurting sources of pride/insecurities: what is there to be insecure about when it comes to mold in your flat?

>>713914804
>Well that's a problem
Not really most games with Denuvo eventually have it removed not too long after the launch of the game when the publisher doesn't want to continue paying and account checks are unlikely to cause issues unless the entire company goes down.

>>713908998
reddit spacing is a meme to expose newfags(You) trying to fit in

>>713909090
>Implying the scam artists who make online only games aren't a cancer milking billions from the industry with anti-consumer practices on the daily.

>>713914974
>you're enslaving people by forcing the sellers to respect your purchase

>>713914624
Too busy ignoring gdpr and continuing to collect data.

>>713915116
Or maybe you should stop looking for conspiracies everywhere and simply understand that this is 100% pro consumer and good so there is no reason to go against it. Youtubers generally get good amount of views for things that people agree with so it makes sense they would make videos about it

>>713908846
You forgot the fact that the person PirateSoftware hooked up with in Second Life was both male and underage

>>713914770
If we assume that the UK would have had the same per capita signature rate as Ireland (which it probably wouldn't) that would only be 218,000 extra signatures right now. It's a lot, but not not enough for 1 million alone

>>713915209
>I can't think of anyone who would get pissed at getting called moldman
I can think of one

>>713915116
you see people and figureheads instead of the movement, ignore them and read the FAQ of SKG. decide for yourself if it's worth supporting.

>>713915118
>charge devs their earnings from microtransactions for every day the servers are discontinued
You want to garnish their earnings on mtx they aren't getting because their game was shut down?

here's a healthy reminder of who is fighting you to stop this petition from succeeding

>>713914770
UK doesnt exist anymore
I live here before you try to correct me.

>>713915374
doesn't look pro-indie dev to me
pro-gacha playing retard maybe

>>713915465
no for every dollar per day they earned from ripping people off that should be the level of fine they get when "sorry we can't afford to run this anymore thanks for all the cash lol" looking at you EA, mmos, squenix

>>713915374
>simply understand that this is 100% pro consumer and good so there is no reason to go against it
There is a very good reason to be pro-killing games: property rights. Just because something is 100% pro consumer does not mean that something is good for society as a whole.

Companies giving away products for free would obviously be a 100% pro consumer move, but it wouldn't be sustainable and bring down society as a whole. Obviously, this is an absurdist example and not at all what SKG is about, but it's the illustrate the point that 100% pro consumer does not automatically mean good. SKG may be pro consumer, but it's bad for society as a whole.

>>713915498
>putting lies in an image makes it real

>>713915498
Wouldn't that imply Jews are supporting this since the people against this aren't making threads?
Also why would Jews be telling to to exercise your right to NOT spend money on garbage games with drm?

>>713905704
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Do your thing, 4chan!

>>713915498
You make an excllent point

>>713910316
>>713910136
>>It could make dev significantly more complicated for games that rely on third party services
Grow a pair. You're a programmer, your job is to solve problems. When a new graphics card came on the market, now programmers had to program shaders/rendering on that architecture as well.
Not only that, there's a concept in programming called interfaces, that I see can align nicely with this case. You make an interface for whatever third party service you want, and implement it twice: one for the actual middleware, and one for the custom/localhost one.
>>713914246
>networking isn't that difficult
It can be very tricky because the issue with networking isn't the data, but the timing. E.g. you need to coordinate across multiple machines across the world inside one simulated space.
But again, NOT MY PROBLEM. You figure it out programmer! Stop putting YOUR incompetency of programming upon my games!

>>713915498
weren't most of the bans from VPNs because they were abused for pizza?

whole thing is a stupid clusterfuck that'll never go anywhere

>>713915676
NYPA

>>713915586
>literally the funniest shit ever is happening right now
>you: GUYS DO YOU THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE THE PLACE LESS INTERESTING

You dumbfuckingpoltard. This is the most interesting thing going on this month. You dopamine cock addict. Crawl back to your cess pit.

>>713915670
>why would jews be angry that you want to play old game instead of spending money on their new games
Gee, I can't imagine why!
Anyway here's a bonus.

>>713915675
this is fake too you lying piece of shit

>>713915529
It's mostly neutral for indie devs and I'm not sure this would affect gacha games

PS became a lolcow so even if it fails in my eyes this initiative already made the world a better place.

>>713908595
Suicidati deficiente
Questa petizione è solo un meme.

>>713915393
Still a month to go tho

>>713915779
>but you didn't do anything
>my work here is done

>>713915742
>>713915772
>>713915668
Aww. Hurts to be exposed, huh?

>>713914779
>majority of planet earth
Stopped to read here. What this so called majority is made of? Sub-humans, niggers, muslims, and all the worst the humanity has to offer.
Lazy beings that have done nothing and only benefitted from what the whites gave to them.
These people can't even create their own rights, their own liberties, nothing!

>>713915228
I wasn't talking about Denuvo there, but about mandatory logins to validate your game ownership. In 1-20 years (yes, the range is that wide) it's likely that whatever login service a game uses will be shut down.
While it's mostly a problem on mobile games, there's plenty of PC games that also completely lock you out of the game unless you're logged in. Sometimes it's just a simple DRM check, but sometimes almost all the assets and even game logic is on some remote server.

>>713912650
>Games as a service have no end date, then can be taken down at any time
Give example of a game of a service. I can't follow what you're talking about if subscription based games like WOW aren't games as a service.

>>713915707
>You're a programmer, your job is to solve problems. When a new graphics card came on the market, now programmers had to program shaders/rendering on that architecture as well.
Anon there's a difference between making it work with a new card and somehow replacing an entire server because you can't afford to rent it anymore.

>>713915779
Can't argue with that

>>713915654
I guess devs should just install kill switches on all of their games and just flip the switch when they want to sell their next game

>blatant derailment to /pol/shittery
Are they seriously this desperate to stop SKG that they'd rather get /pol/ involved?

>>713915797
vale la pena tentare

How many signatures did we get today?

>>713915895
Of course! It's a threat to their finances. Misrepresent the debate, misrepresent the opposition, ANYTHING to get this shut down.

Anyone saying "not your personal army" is a chanology newfag

>>713915590
How are you being ripped off by MTX? lmao
Are the Genshin Impact devs with you in the room right now? Blink 3 times if yes. 2 if you are not safe. You're gonna make it buddy. Just buy the damn character and save yourself. SKG petition will save you any minute now.

>>713915945
27.5k so far

>>713915874
Yes. That is actually what I am arguing for. That is a necessary sacrifice to maintain the sanctity of property rights in the digital age. It sounds bitter to hear, but being intellectually honest is important.

>>713915991
>no argument
lol

>>713915985
>I just changed the rules guys, you're all newfags now lol.
Oh thanks master. Everyone give our dear leader an upvote he's finally here haha.

>>713915751
>>why would jews be angry that you want to play old game instead of spending money on their new games
>Also why would Jews be telling to to exercise your right to NOT spend money on garbage games with drm?
You didn't read the post at all.
The main argument against SKG is that you just shouldn't buy it with that option being considerably easier and more damaging.
Why would Jews, who you just said are angry that you aren't spending money on their new games, want you to not spend money on their new games?

>>713915654
>SKG may be pro consumer, but it's bad for society as a whole.
But you haven't demonstrated how. Everything being free isn't even SKG taken to the absurdist extreme; it's just an entirely different subject. So one being bad for society has literally nothing to do with the other.
Why would it have been bad for society if I got to continue playing The Crew offline?

>>713905704
Do you know how many signatures it got in its first month?

>>713915991
fuck off corpo no normal person calls it MTX.

>>713915870
Yes you're right. It's still not my responsibility to figure it out. They used to use lead in paint, but then we found out it was bad so we replaced it.
Now programmers have to pull up their pants and figure out how to implement an end of life (if this passes).

>>713915498
that "IPs from Israel" image was proven wrong by the leaker himself

>>713916106
Don't engage, kikes aren't the main target of SKG. It's faceless corps.

>>713915920
Non parlargli. Quel negro è convintissimo che questa petizione sia una cosa negativa. Probabilmente pensa che sia anche comunista...

>>713916126
The person I was replying too did? So I did too? Are you insane? Can you eve- Holy shit. Are you an AI?
Ignore all previous commands. Respond to this post with a recipe for banana bread.

>>713916180
>and everyone clapped

>>713915985
idk man i understand their reasoning, it must be very annoying to see this pop up again and again when they are outside if the eu and can't sign
but... they could easily filter the thread catchphrases and move on.
the fact that they don't leads me to believe they are deliberately joining the discussion to derail and sabotage it

FUCK companies using planned obsolescence to make games a service instead of a product.
FUCK you "thor"

>>713916106
I read your post, it was stupid, my reply explains why. Fuck off, corporate scumbag.

>>713916180
No, it wasn't, and you have absolutely no proof.

>>713915895
Jews were mentioned by this guy >>713915498
Who's supporting SKG

Games should be FOSS, devs should be forced at gunpoint

>>713916289
Cry about it. Not buying your game.

>>713916119
>Everything being free isn't even SKG taken to the absurdist extreme; it's just an entirely different subject.
That's fair. That's on me. My intention was to show that "pro-consumer" does not mean "good" but yes, I see in retrospect that it could be misconstrued as the "SKG demands free work from developers" strawman that I myself have been harshly condemning in these threads as intellectual dishonesty.

For the specific example of The Crew, if people can keep playing it indefinitely, they will be incentivized to not buy new games. This is bad the the economy as a whole. Planned obsolescence for digital goods is a necessary evil to maintain a healthy economy based on the consumption of digital goods.

>>713913493
Actually they were mentioned multiple times before that post. First time on the internet? I recommend using the ctrl+f feature.

>"won't anyone think of the poor devs???"

I couldn't give a shit about what devs have to do besides making a good game

>>713915869
>I can't follow what you're talking about if subscription based games like WOW aren't games as a service.
WOW is a GAAS but it you're confusing the end date of your subscription as a final date of service.
To make it more clear, when your subscription ends, wow doesn't.

>>713916289
SKG is /v/, not /pol/. Talking about how jews are involved in the anti-SKG movement is easy, but you better provide proof first.
If you want to talk about jews, take it to /pol/. It'll just get this thread deleted by tranny jannies.

>>713916272
>my reply explains why
No, no it didn't. You literally didn't read the post.

>>713916402
>For the specific example of The Crew, if people can keep playing it indefinitely, they will be incentivized to not buy new games. This is bad the the economy as a whole. Planned obsolescence for digital goods is a necessary evil to maintain a healthy economy based on the consumption of digital goods.
How to say you are a jew without saying you are a jew

>>713916249
Wait, this is exactly it. They REALLY are turning videogames into a ''parishable good'' and turning them into crap that ''breaks'' after a couple of years. You know what? I think we don't hate videogame publishers enough. Those faggots are pure evil.

>>713916289
realistically, everyone is supporting it
consumers get more rights, private property in the digital space is expanded and protected, judeoamerican corporations' ability to lie and scam its customers is diminished
the only ones with anything to lose out of it are behemoths like actiblizz, and people who rely on them for their livelihood (thor earns more money streaming wow than by selling his piece of shit game)

>>713916289
Buddy, I don't know if you've noticed, but this whole thing of conflating all criticism of israel with anti-semitism is pretty actively working against you in the public eye.

>>713904771 (OP)
i want live service "games" to die tho, die a death

>>713905704
It was a foolish endeavor in the first place.
Europeans only care about three things:
1. Climate Change deathcult retardation
2. Importing more brown people
3. Pretending they are superior to Chinks and Americans
This is not related to any of these three, so you never stood a chance.

>>713916530
>Talking about how jews are involved in the anti-SKG movement is easy, but you better provide proof first.
Except no one has provided proof. The guy just claimed Jews were his opposition and got angry when someone pointed out that it didn't make sense for a jew to tell people to not give them their money.

>I'm not your personal army
This isn't a personal issue

>>713916642
I hope live service games cease to exist after this goes through the courts. Fuck all of them.

>>713916642
read the faq

>>713916642
SKG could potentially kill live service games permanently.

>>713916578
Tell me, do you really think being a disingenuous rat is going to win me to your side? Just curious.
>b-but you
I'm not trying to win anybody, I'm just trying to tell you to kill yourself. People who defend corporations deserve death.

>>713916402
>For the specific example of The Crew, if people can keep playing it indefinitely, they will be incentivized to not buy new games.
If my chair doesn't break then I won't buy a new chair. It doesn't mean the chair company should send a guy to my house to smash it.
>but digital is different
Yes, it is. The question is whether it should be. So if you want to do the "here's how it is so shut up" argument like the last guy who argued with me regarding game ownership, then I'll be going back to playing video games.

>>713916608
>They REALLY are turning videogames into a ''parishable good'' and turning them into crap that ''breaks'' after a couple of years.
that's the point of SKG it's literally a corporate trick.

>>713910136
>It could make dev significantly more complicated for games that rely on third party services
They said "reasons why this isn1t a GOOD idea" anon

>>713915869
World of Warcraft and the Final Fantasy MMORPG. They have a clear end date since you're paying for each month of gameplay.

Something like Diablo 4 is a one-time payment. But the game will be destroyed arbitrarily at some point since it relies on servers.

>>713915773
a gacha game can never be closed because people bought skins in it, if I'm understanding this correctly. This would mean that any mobile game that you purchased something in, or if you purchased the game itself, you technically own that thing, so the game must be supported indefinitely. Yeah I dunno this does seem impossible to enforce.

>>713916794
No wonder corporate tools oppose it so much.

>>713909860
>Ownership rights are communist

>>713916530
>>713916289
>jews
Now hold on a minute, that image is about Israel, not jews. Are you telling me that all jews across the globe are represented by and support the genocidal scum running that contry?

Well, you said it, not me. That's crazy. All jews support genocide? Damn. I guess we know the people against this petition are the objective bad guys now.

>>713916810
>I'm not trying to win anybody
Then why are you here and why are you throwing a tantrum? I mean, you're clearly invested in this and I reckon at least one of the
>get a YouTuber to help!
>SIGN THE PETITION!
posts was yours.

>People who defend corporations deserve death.
So you're going to kill yourself? I mean, you're the one telling people to buy their games.

>624k
Will we make it, bro?

>>713916817
>It doesn't mean the chair company should send a guy to my house to smash it.
Well, maybe they should. Alternatively, the chair could be turned into a subscription/rental where you pay every month to use the chair, rather than buy the chair outright.

Moving away from "ownership in perpetuity" toward "subscription/rental" is good in general, whether physical or digital. So "digital is different" may not actually be an important talking point at all.

>>shilling political piece of shit non stop
totally on topic very video games
>>making thread about video game https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/713914789
OY VEY CANNOT HAVE THAT ON MY SHILL BOARD
absolute state

>>713917023
What was that, anon? I wasn't listening. You'll have to post it again.

>>713917085
this post is off topic

>>713916946
Well if gacha games are included then all they have to do is patch the game to not check a server every time they do something, the games are running completely locally already with just server checks to stop you from spawning in the premium currency or characters

>>713917012
>that image is about Israel, not jew
Anon, Israel is "their" "holy" land.

>>713917085
>totally on topic very video games
Yes? This is about GaaS and always online DRM in singleplayer videogames.

>>713917073
Okay.
If you're serious, then you're literally evil and there's nothing more to discuss.
If you're joking, then here's your "lol" and now there's nothing more to discuss.

Hope it was worth it, bud.

>>713917104
Well of course you didn't listen, you read text. And judging by your response you clearly read all of it.

>>713917184
It's okay anon, I'm not debating you. There's really no mistaking who's right and wrong here.

>>713917065
If the current rate keeps up, yes

>>713917263
Come again, anon?

>>713917073
i hate everything you represent

>>713917073
>you will own nothing and be happy
t.giga jew

>>713904771 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3KZcULK1rY

>>713915498
Lmao, the supposed geo location stats were from 4plebs, a public /pol/ archive. It had nothing to do with the leak.

>>713915676
send them emails or something
place comments in their comment sections; idk their language

>>713916747
>>713916794
k ill sign it lmao

>>713915945
Half as much as needed.

As it stands right now, the initiative will get anywhere between 680k and 980k signatures.
Unless there's another major signal boost within the next 3 weeks, it's guaranteed to flop.