Nintendo is doing fine, really big 3rd party exclusives soon!
>couldn't be assed to click show more
Shant care.
>>713927948 (OP)Post the whole thing, you loser
>>713928428>concerned and resentful for nintendo caring about videogames in the past>happy when nintendo is becoming anticonsumerMany such cases.
>>713928604>Nintendo was reportedly asked about Game-Key Cards at the Nintendo Annual Shareholders Meeting!>One question mentioned that they often hear third-party games do not sell well on Nintendo hardware and expressed concerns about Game-Key Cards, calling them a half-baked solution and not very appealing. They asked whether Game-Key Card will deter people from third-party games:>Nintendo roughly responded that they adopted Game-Key Cards because the Switch 2's storage capacity is larger than that of the Switch and said they will continue to make efforts so that third-party software is able to sell.In other words a generic non-answer
>>713928685>happy when nintendo is becoming anticonsumerSo why weren't they happy during Gen 8 when they were at their most anti-consumer?
>>713929217Well they can't exactly say
>well we made them because the third party developers were too anti-consumer to pay for actual carts and threatened to drop support
>>713929217>Game-Key Cards are trash >Switch 2 is cheaply made and expensive >they know 3rd party doesn't sell on Nintendo systems So the opposite of what tendieshitters post in here, kek!
>>713929880Hey kiddo, I'm going to point something very important out to you in that sentence.
>that they often hear
>third parties shooting themselves in the foot by being cheap is nintendo's fault
>>713929217>muh storageI'm genuinely disappointed if the main sell of game key cards to publishers is "Nintendo doesn't make actual game cards large enough to store our 100+GB bloated messes :("
>>713929429>were at their mostthat's going to pale in comparison to what's coming
>>713927948 (OP)>>713929217>cutting off the part where the jap said "there was a part I couldn't here, the nuance might be different"Kill all journalists.
Shareholders always ask stupid questions at these things. I remember one that was pissed Nintendo was talking about video games and the Nintendo bosses were like "we'll take that into consideration" lmao
>>713930393Nah, nothing can top Amiibo.
Hell, they just made the Switch pro controller one of the easiest to repair controllers on the market.
>>713930336This was almost certainly the original intention anon. I don't have the actual interview on hand but I'm fairly sure Doug Bowser said as much when he was asked about them in April.
>>713931147Weren't there a shareholder question asking why Nintendo hasn't hired more women in Japan or something? Like two or three years ago
>>713929217>efforts>key slopchoose one
>>713930336The intent is Nintendo knows they're all cheap greedy mofos who don't care about the fans and they just want the cheapest solution possible. Nintendo says okay but also makes it super clear what gamekey things are and puts it on the box so fans can avoid it. Third parties can't hide their greed anymore
>>713930336>100+GBin reality: 10 GB 3DS remake-slop
lol
>>713931817>Nintendo says okayweird that they didn't say okay on the 3DS, the Wii, or the Wii U.
in reality Nintendo created another shit system, which only has expensive 64 GB carts, which is a brilliant strategy when you want to fuck over indies.
>>713927948 (OP)>>Nintendo is doing fine>Mario Kart World is a dead game already.huh-uh...
>>713932048But but but Donkey Kong Odyssey is coming out very soon.
I heard it has tons of moonbanananananana
>>713930336The companies complaining the most are people making games that are 25GB who don't have access to 32GB cards anymore. If you're making a cheap indie game, why should you have to buy a 64GB from Nintendo?
>>713932162>why should you have to buy a 64GB from Nintendo?herro
we want mole money.
give it to me.
stick it in my bum bum
>>713929217>third-party games do not sell well on Nintendo hardwareis this a joke? everyone and their grandmother put their indie game on switch.
>>713931817Why can't they just make smaller card versions like they did with Switch? This is just designed to depress third party sales on Switch, 100%
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>>713932048Yes retard the best console launch of all time and non stop selling out means Nintendo is doomed. And even if everyone decided to stop playing Mario kart world, it doesn’t have dlc right now. They already have your money.
>>713932439retarded normies buy shit system without researching
pro-tip: the shitch 2 is dead for any collector. that's a juge problem. shitch 2 is basically the iran of vidya.
>>713932526>iran of vidya.Successful for decades despite America and Israel seething about it?
>>713932286You don't get it anon, when Square Enix makes a half assed mario kart clone or Pokemon clone and it sells less than mario kart or Pokemon that means Nintendo fans aren't interested in Square Enix games
>>713932573bombed to pieces and shitted, actually
>>713932332They literally do not exist. The manufacturers who make the type of storage the carts do not make a size smaller than 64GB. Otherwise, Nintendo themselves would be using 32 or even 16GB carts for their games.
>>713932786well, who decided to use these shit carts then?
oh, it's Nintendo
why even use cartridges at all if you gotta download the shit, take out the bit of hardware that uses it and squeeze a bigger gpu in there or something
>>713933156they want to pretend it has physical games, so that it doesn't fully flop
>>713932526I did my research. The product is good, and you’re a deranged autist obsessing over every flaw because the switch 2 broke records and you’re seething. What a sad life you live. Won’t be buying keycards. I certainly did not but the switch 2 for third party games so I don’t care. They’ll change their ways, or I won’t buy their games until they’re dirt cheap.
>>713932286Nobody gives a fuck about hipster-tier indie games you flaming homo
>>713930336The biggest S2 game is Cyberpunk and it's on the card and the cheapest game from the launch window at that. No excuse for indie trash.
>>713933156It’s better than a code in a box or a digital download because you can resell them. Otherwise it’s an inconvenience. Not buying them.
>>713927948 (OP)The retards are blaming game key cards too soon.
People buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games. Even at the end of Switch 1's life, 50% of all sales were still first-party games, even though there were only about 200 of them compared to 15,000 other third-party games. At the beginning of Switch 1's life, first-party games accounted for almost 80% of all sales. The same will happen now. If people really wanted Cyberpunk, they would have bought it for $12 in the last GOG sale or some shit like that.
>>713933269>product is good>broken backward compatibility>basically no physical games>shit graphics>shit GPU>shit battery lifechoose one
>>713932784but enough about israel
>>713932865btw the Nintendo Switch 2 Edition carts actually use Switch 1 carts anyway so there's no excuse for them not to offer that option for third party games more generally, aside from the obvious caveat of slower load times.
>>713933405>losing 50% of your total sales is not a problem>(let's pretend that they won't create more slop)
>>713933467lol so obvious you don’t own one. Come back and make judgement after you’ve bought one.
>>713933467also
>no Save the WorldI'm sure the greedy bastards at Nintendo went "what? people can buy this game on other platforms and we don't get anything? we won't allow that"
>>713932162>The companies complaining the most are people making games that are 25GB who don't have access to 32GB cards anymore.No the fuck they aren't. Companies like Marvelous are putting out physical games with no issues whatsoever.
The ones complaining and using the keys are the ones that can foot the bill like capcom and square.
>>713933548lol you’re used to 5 exclusives for your console the whole generation
>>713933719>it has 10 hours of battery lifenot falling for your lies
>>713930336Its the other way around. Most games are 10-20gb but the only switch 2 carts available are expensive 64gb carts
>>713933793>I really want to play Spla-differently-abled-wheelchair ball
>>713933819What? I never made that claim. I have one, and it definitely doesn’t have 10 hours battery life.
>>713933918I heard Metroid Prime 4 will feature a transsexual non-binary Samus.
Very based.
I hope they port another Gamecube classic over and make the game compatible to 2025.
>>713933934>the battery life is actually less than 2 hoursI accept your concession.
>>713934057Samus was already transgenic. So being full trans isn't a big change.
shareholders retarded ong
>>713934146very based
I hope they also finally acknowledge that Princess Peach has been a tranny all along.
>>713933918Switch 2 already has more exclusives than ps5 in 5 years lol I never heard of the game you’re describing. I’m going to assume it’s your everyday life.
>>713934270the ps5 has all ps4+ps3+ps2+ps1 exclusives.
can I play Wii U games on the Shitch 2?
>>713934339>the ps5 has all ps4+ps3+ps2+ps1 exclusives.Lets just fix this
>the ps5 has all ps4 exclusivesWhich is just bloodborne lets be honest.
>>713934195You've mistaken Peach for Sigmario. Don't worry it happens quite often to casual gamers.
>>713934435that's a very big cope, and no ps1+ps2+ps3 games work just fine, cope
can I play Wii U games on the Shitch 2?
I heard Pikmin 3 Shitch is broken on the Shitch 2. Can I play Pikmin 3 Wii U on the Shitch 2?
>>713934121Nah it’s more like 4-5 hours is my guess. I have a charger handy it’s a non-issue.
>>713934469Mario needs a body type selection.
The next Mario needs to be non-binary.
>>713928428Well obviously nintendo will continue making money. For a lot of people this is ideological and they'll support nintendo simply because they believe their direction is better than the sony direction. For others it's a nostalgia thing and that's all that matters. Nintendo is so established by now they'll make money regardless of what they do
>>713934482Yes you can play Wii U games on switch 2. They ported over 90%+ of Wii U’s exclusives lol
>>713934509>4-5 hourscomputer says you are a liar and no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idKzdkhllWc
>>713930336Hmm... in that sense, I can understand not being able to provide physical cards for them. SD cards for 100+ gigs can go to at least 20-50 or more dollars. Having to make millions of them, specialized for a console? I get that. Would be way too much money. But games under 32 or so gigs should get one, don't you think?
>>713934482They fixed pikmin 3 with a patch. You’re late
>>713934482>I heard Pikmin 3 Shitch is broken on the Shitch 2.It might be, i've never used a shitch 2.
It works perfectly on Switch 2 though. Not that you'd want to play the worst Pikmin game, not even being ported and enhanced saved it.
God nintendo sucked under Iwata
>>713934632So Devil's Third works?
Nice.
What about ZombiU?
>>713934637It’s a guess it might be lower. I’ve never measured it. I also use the “don’t charge past 90% mode” you can toggle on. This preserve the battery.
>>713934509>this "portable device" needs a charger within 1 or 2 hourslmao
>>713934693>a patchcomputer says no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avEKoFQANaM
it's totally broken even after the patch lol
>>713934698>Devil's ThirdTakes me back. Shame it ran in 10fps most of the time.
>>713934698I have devils third still. They don’t call it devils turd for nothing. Is this really the best you got for arguments? Lol
>>713934772it actually ran fine, the multiplayer was god tier and even had user created levels, and did that without any patch.
Something the Shitch is incapable of doing.
>>713934769I'm playing it now. They fixed it with a patch.
>>713934769Nope a pikmin YouTube channel said they fixed it after 2 weeks. Very minor glitches still exist.
>>713934819only retards who never played it call it turd
lmao
>>713934769little britain is one of the worst shows ever made, you are a faggot.
>>713934849this video was made after the patch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avEKoFQANaM
it's fully broken, it's crashing, and shitting itself.
and Nintendo claimed that it was just a bit of flickering in "certain scenes", while in reality it was broken everywhere.
>>713934891I'm surprised Eric even knows of Little Britain
>>713934891it's anti-tranny, therefore you must be a troon.
>>713934887I played the first level and never finished it. I still own it. Should I go back and finish it before I sell it? I got it on Amazon back when it was new.
>>713935020you know this guy is a literal homosexual right
>>713934830>it actually ran fine,No it didn't. I replayed it last week and Panama(second level) chugged like hell.
>>713934583making money is already priced into nintendos shares. growth is all anyone cares about in tech. find new customers and monetize the existing ones, or you end up like GOOG and become a stagnant mess that nobody cares about
>>713935075>not the multiplayerlmao
>>713934956>this video was made after the patch>Video released Jun 9, 2025https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/53748
>On June 16, 2025, a new software update for Pikmin 3 Deluxe became available for download. Please take a moment to download and install this update while your Nintendo Switch 2 or Nintendo Switch console is connected to the internet.>June 16, 2025Why even lie about that?
>>713934887It just dawned on me. You’re probably that pretentious YouTuber retard electric underground or whatever it is. I saw you made a video defending the game. It was universally called devils turd when it came out.
>>713935090he's pretending to be mentally ill. That makes it funny.
you are not.
>>713933382Split Fiction is bigger, outlaws might be bigger than cyberpunk too, no idea about civ vii
>>713935197Nintendo Derangement Syndrome.
>>713935146The game was dead when I got it and obviously dead now.
>>713935095false
>>713935197thanks for confirming that they didn't fix jack shit.
General
Fixed an issue that occurs when playing on Nintendo Switch 2 where the entire screen will briefly turn off and on again in several scenes of the game, such as at the beginning and end of a day.
Several adjustments have been made to improve gameplay on Nintendo Switch 2.
so
CRASHES NOT FIXED
SLOWDOWNS NOT FIXED
GRAPHICS FULLY BROKEN NOT FIXED
cope
>>713935251It’s crazy how bad Nintendo has made its haters even more deranged than usual because of its success. lol it’s purely emotion they don’t care for nuance. I can admit not everything is perfect, but they think everything is horrible.
>>713935205shills called it that without playing, because they were angry that it was a Wii U exclusive
Similar to ZombiU, and then rated the lacklusted broken ports higher, despite them missing countless of features lol
>>713935279no, it wasn't.
tons of people played it up until the multiplayer shutdown.
this confirms that you are a liar.
everyone who played the multiplayer loved it.
>>713935430>missing countless of featuresSAAR
>>713935487Nice that you call me your teacher.
Shitch 2 is dead for collectors. It's over.
and it's Nintendo's fault.
>>713927948 (OP)>Key cards are optional >Every turd party jump on it because they love getting slop money>"WTF WHY ARE WE UNDERPERFORMING?????"
>>713935349>entire screen will briefly turn off and on againreality pic related
>>713935564its nintendos fault that third parties dont offer physical?
>>713935634>physical carts are optional>just sell your game digital onlyYou will own nothing and pretend to be happy, otherwise Nintendo will ban your ass.
>>713935564>collectorslol
lmao
>>713935695they offer physical carts that Nintendo made.
Weird that Nintendo didn't have that shit on the 3DS.
>>713935737>why would a collector, who buys 400 games, care about physical ownership???Shitch 2 is over.
>>713935430I have zombiu as well which I think is a pretty cool game though I never beat it.
>>713935501I’m not a liar I own a copy of it. As I said, I played only the first level in 2015 or 16. Whenever it came out. Paid $60 on Amazon. Pretty limited in release. I might not have tried the online multiplayer. My memory is limited on it. I’m not home or I’d take a picture of my copy. I will say my limited experience with it didn’t align quite with the reviews. I thought it was solid.
>>713935735>le ownership I can still redownload every single digital game I have ever bought, meanwhile my copy of Zelda oracles that some nigger stole is gone forever
>>713935815you are deranged lmfao
>>713935815Collectors are too busy paying fortunes for old cartridges they aren't going to play
>>713935834You are a liar.
>$60 on Amazont. liar
>I didn't play the game, but it was totally badt. liar
>>713936046I’m not but that’s ok. I remember there’s a cover system similar to gears of war
>>713929217To clarify, when they say "storage capacity" they're referring to the size of Switch 2 games, not the console's internal storage.
>>713935842>I can stillNintendo literally says that they will stop redownloads in the future, idiot.
and then your gay keys will be 100% worthless, which is why no collector will touch that shit.
>>713936085>I quickly googled for a videot. liar
>>713935634It costs $16 to print a full game on a cartridge. That’s $16 less for every physical copy sold. And third parties lose every more money after the retail middle man takes their cut.
>>713927948 (OP)>New console comes out>Port old ass shit (at full price!!!) that people have already bought at least twice before>Be surprised that nobody buys those games when they can play new Mario Kart instead
>>713936117>b-b-but maybe in 2050You schizos keep screaming about something that literally has never happened
>>713935842>is gone foreverThanks to actual physical releases, something the Shitch 2 doesn't have, you are lucky.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=Zelda+oracle&_sacat=0&_from=R40
>>713932162>a cheap indie gameNone of the key card releases so far are indie titles. None of them. Not a single one. If you're the little indie guy seeking to publish a game, you're not going to do it through key cards. You're just going to make a digital only release. The physical releases of indie titles are the physical collector autists so they're not gonna be buying those key cards, either.
This is ENTIRELY spearheaded by large publishers who want you to buy digital anyways.
>>713936232A game someone don't buy because it's on a key card costs them $60
>>713927948 (OP)>Nintendo thought up of game key cards by working with third partiesKnew it was those retards poisoning the well. They're like fucking locusts.
>>713936246Greedy Nintendo is deciding on that.
I'm sure they will pull 3DS, Wii and Wii U redownloads before 2030.
just the fact that they don't allow any new purchases is telling everything. this means they make nothing, but have to keep servers up and running.
for no reason btw. they could still sell games on these other systems. the stores are up.
>>713927948 (OP)Why would ANYBODY buy a third party game on Switch 2 when it runs like shit in lower resolution and it's download only?
When you could get the PC version for cheap or a PS5 version that's on disc?
>>713936265>Just buy it again for a ludicrous priceholy retard
>>713936192I’m not but that’s ok
nothing
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>>713936285>digital onlythat was the only plus of the Shitch 1, tons of indies on physical cart and greed fucked that up as well.
>>713936448you are, you literally claim the game would be "le bad", but then admit that you didn't really play it at all.
so you are either a liar, who actually owns the game.
More likely is that you are full of shit and don't even own the game and just repeat what leftie activists, who were shitting on the Wii U non stop were saying.
>>713936117>Nintendo literally says that they will stop redownloads in the future, idiot.buddy, you can still redownload games from the dsi and wii. purchases from nearly two decades ago. worrying about when you'll stop being able to do that is on the same level as worrying about when the entire internet is gonna shut down. as long as nintendo stays above water as a company you'll be able to redownload those games.
i'd be more surprised if all of the current switch 2 cartridges didn't completely deteriorate before they stopped supporting redownloads.
>>713931147Then you have the guy that purchased shares so he could ask for more male squids (I think that was it) in Splatoon kek
>>713936427>$25 is ludicrous (5 GBA carts)lol
>>713936651I pay nothing to redownload my digital games
>>713936472I doubt it'll change much in the long run. The cycle has long been that indie titles release digitally first, and then if there's enough interest they'll do a physical release for the collectors. Collectors are making it clear they don't want key cards, so it means indies will have to be prepared to eat costs. Perhaps they'll raise prices a bit to compensate, but that's what, paying $40 instead of $30 for an indie release?
Of course, given LRG being jewish as hell and doing shit like releasing disc games on CD-Rs instead of properly pressed discs, they might try and swindle their audience with the key card koolaid. Imagine the backlash though.
>>713927948 (OP)Christ, the Japanese Shadow Generations cover is SO much better than ours. Hope someone makes a printable version.
>>713936651For five blatant fakes? Yeah that's pretty ludicrous.
>>713936581that's because Iwata was in charge back then.
they will pull redownloads.
Snoy pulled redownloads already.
again: no reason not to still sell games on these systems. you can just put them in your webstore, and activate a download on these other devices when sold. that's it. Trivial to implement, but they CHOOSE not to do that.
Why would they do that?
Nintendo literally said that they will stop redownloads. And you don't decide when they do that. Actually retards buying the Shitch 2 telling Nintendo that they are fine getting fucked in the ass.
>>713936820>Nintendo literally said that they will stop redownloads.Okay, when?
>>713936820>that's because Iwata was in charge back then.And he isn't now. He's been dead for just about a full decade now and you can still redownload them.
>>713936820You really should stop listening to the voices in your head
>>713936820>that's because a guy who wasn't the guy i currently dislike was in chargeim so tired of you people lording iwata as the patron saint of the industry like the vast majority of you didn't think him and miyamoto were literal demon-spawn throughout the wii u era. he got so much shit for so much of his tenure right up until he died, to the point where the sentiment that he should resign was a popular one, and now people are ignoring that very real history just to prop his existence up as a debate token. you're all sickening.
but regardless, nintendo doesn't like having their titles compete with one another. why would you maintain a storefront from decades ago with ancient, affordable prices by today's standards when you're trying to sell your latest releases to customers? to use that as an argument is nonsensical, and to keep spewing this "nintendo SAID they will stop redownloads" crap like im just going to take your word at face value reeks of desperation. their only official statement has always been, "for the foreseeable future, it will be possible to redownload your purchased games"
>>713930336>>713932162>>713933820I don't think having different capacity tiers is the issue when there's a been a fuckton of Switch 1 games that have a retail box that only contain download codes, which is still happening today. Power Wash Simulator isn't even 8GB and yet the Switch version is the only one that's a code in a box, not an indie game either because that's Square Enix's stamp on there.
Capcom is probably the worst offender of this because they have a lot of those 2-in-1 combo packs that have one game on the cart and the other one is a download code region-locked just for the extra spite, hope Amazon didn't send you a different region's copy. The Switch carts can have multiple games on them, like Gothic 1 and 2 is on a single cart with separate launch tiles on the home menu, so that's just Capcom being too cheap.
That seems to be why they're going with this game key card stuff instead, because that at least means you're not going to be stuck with a piece of paper that you can only use once that'll forever be tied to a single account.
>>713933754For 70 fucking dollars.
>>713928428This is just the scalper boost. It doesn't represent real life sales or interest in the console. Nintendo is STRUGGLING right now. Playstation is kicking their asses by doing absolutely nothing.
>>713936703>all these new PCs I had to buy were free
>>713927948 (OP)Greed all around
>nintendo forcing companies to put games on larger more expensive carts>3rd parties are too damn cheap to fork out the cash knowing switch 2 will be a success like is predecessor
>>713936785>there will be a physical releaseyes, it will be a gay key.
>>713931497There was, the actual context was that Nintendo hasn't hired "enough" women the way other companies went all in on ESG/DEI hiring practices. Nintendo basically responded "we'll hire more women when we find qualified workers".
>>713937621Are you going to shove the cartridge in your ass? Oh yeah I forgot, collectors don't play games, no wonder you're assuming I don't already own the hardware to play it for some reason
>>713937003because greedtendo hasn't figured out that these servers cost money
>>713937495>why would you keep on selling digital games for devices that are oldhello, Steamie
>why would you sell old games anyway???to make money, retard.
otherwise they keep up servers with no income, and this means they will shut them down way faster, because it makes no sense to keep them up.
>>713937798>I sell hardware for no reason>but I keep the games on cartt. schizo
>but but your NES will totally fail in 2 weeksStill waiting.
>>713937702Having to answer questions at shareholder meetings sounds exhausting. Like tard wrangling on steroids.
>>713937897What the fuck are you even talking about
>>713937678>>nintendo forcing companies to put games on larger more expensive cartsAnon, those are the cheapest carts.
There's nothing below that, they simply do not exist and nintendo can't just magic them up out of thin air.
>>713937985you being a retarded schizo
>>713929217I have to wonder if third party here is referring to used game sales and not third party developers.
>>713937940Really crazy how people keep acting like Nintendo is going to kill the industry and not the ones bending down to the retarded shareholders like Sony wasting all their money in gaas garbage
>>713937997Nintendo could have
a) chosen a different manufacturer
b) not went with these shit carts in the first place
c) at least allowed Shitch 1 carts for Shitch 2 releases, most indies are not made by retarded devs and thus don't require ultra-fast-slow carts, which are slow as fuck regardless
Do snoys ever get a vacation from seething endlessly about Nintendo consoles and games?
>>713937997>nintendo can't just magic them up out of thin air.you are a retarded nigger
>>713938137They sometimes chill out when they have a game to enjoy.
I don't know why people keep trying to shift the blame onto Nintendo as if the poor oppressed third parties really wanted to do real physical release but Nintendo said "fuck you use a key card", key cards are the best option for the download only physical games, the only way to complete stop it was if Nintendo enforced that all physical releases must have the full game on the cart, and you know what third parties would do? eShop only releases
WHAT THE FUCK /V/ROS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET 3RD PARTY EXCLUSIVES ON OUR NEW CONSOLE... AAAAAAGHH IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THIS
FUUUUCK I CAN'T EVEN FIND A LOBBY FOR MKW WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK DID I SPEND ALL MY DISABILITY MONEY ON
>>713938137>snoys love the Wii U
>>713927948 (OP)>xitter screencap faggot can't even screencap the full post
>>713938108>c) at least allowed Shitch 1 carts for Shitch 2 releasesJust release Switch 1 games?
>>713938237>it's not Valve...Nintendo's fault>they just force that shit onto everyone3DS had no gay shit carts
why is that?
>>713938259Of course they do, it's the whole reason why they created the Famitsu threads
>>713927948 (OP)It's impressive how not a single person ever ask the right questions in these shareholder meetings. Like they should ask why there is no smaller cartridge options and only 64gb.
>>713938326>buy a $500 trainwreck>get Shitch 1 games for itare you now pretending to be retarded?
>>713931817it would be far cheaper just to put a code in the box
>>713938361to celebrate the success of the Piss4 and call the Nintendo a failure, obviously.
>>713938410The only thing that changes in this example is the logo on the box
>>713938410>>buy a $500 trainwreck>>get Shitch 1 games for it>pay $20 extra for a Shitch 2 patch>BING BONG WAHOO
>>713928428Stocks have gotten progressively separated from logic anon. Remember investors dont really care if S2 has good games or not, they pnly care that the next quarter is profitable and how to make money the fastest. Stock going could mean a number of things
>>713938326They did, RF don't even have a Switch 2 version, only the Switch 1 and the Switch 2 Edition that comes with the upgrade, both work on the Switch 1 also
>>713938361>Of course they do, it's the whole reason why they created the Famitsu threadsI LOVE how you are still seething years after the fact.
That's what pro gamers call buckbroken
>>713938535>Shitch 2 is not needed for any game at allGlad that you agree that the Shitch 2 is pointless and everyone should stick to the Shitch 1.
>>713938108>a) chosen a different manufacturerThey don't exist. It's not about a different manufacturer, they literally do not exist anywhere. Period.
>b) not went with these shit carts in the first placeThey're the best carts on the market with a considerably higher read speed than the previous one. Something like triple the speed if I remember right.
>c) at least allowed Shitch 1 carts for Shitch 2 releases, They do, in fact their switch 2 editions of games are just switch 1 carts. Third parties do not want them because they will pinch as many pennies as they can which is why third parties on supporting the Switch 1 opted for the smallest carts they could manage.
>most indies Release digitally making that a moot point.
>>713938627I'm not the one crying every Thursday
Man that KF thread can't come soon enough.
>>713938586>investors dont really care if S2 has good games or not,So they are literally like Nintendo.
>>713938627Who's seething? No one cared beyond the data in the first place.
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>>713934482>ps1+ps2+ps3 games work just fineThey don't. I don't know what happened with Sony, because they had a cycle accurate PS1 emulator for decades and a fairly competent PS2 emulator for almost a decade, yet the current iterations on PS+ make the PS1 Mini blush. You'd think the snail's pace of adding retro games to PS+ meant these games wouldn't be broken messes when they finally get listed, but then you get shit like this:
https://youtu.be/kKIdc0QBytc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obcRtseuqAg
And Sony takes way too long to actually fix issues like these, which is why people generally don't recommend using PS+ for the classic titles.
>>713938681>every ThursdaySounds like a very big event in your life
>>713938784Imagine paying for emulation and get a worse experience too
>>713938667>there is only one manufacturer who does 3DS, and Shitch cartsThey are proprietary, so no.
>best carts>overpriced shit>slow as fuck anyway>bestchoose one
>you need higher speed in any caseyou don't
>They dothey don't, otherwise why does not a single Shitch 2 3rd party game use these?
>but but Shitch 1 games with Shitch 2 patchiesnot Shitch 2 games then, got it.
>they can just release it digitallyyes, and one more reason to never get a Shtich 2.
>>713938784Knowing sony they just took the first emulator they googled.
>>713938869>They are proprietary, so no.Not really no, they're basically SD cards.
>choose oneOkay, I choose best because they literally are. You're not going to find anything better without moving up to SSDs and I don't think you want nintendo to take the sony/MS route of just not making true physical games do you.
>otherwise why does not a single Shitch 2 3rd party game use these?> they will pinch as many pennies as they can which is why third parties on supporting the Switch 1 opted for the smallest carts they could manage.Not big on reading are you.
>yes, and one more reason to never get a Shtich 2.And yet you're desperate for one otherwise you wouldn't be here.
The largest user group for Nintendo Switch games is adults aged 20 to 25, with a significant portion of users extending into their mid-40s
Mobile games are the primary gaming platform for children age 13 and under, not the Nintendo Switch. Mobile gaming is the largest and fastest-growing segment of the industry, with over 50% of the world’s 3.3 billion gamers playing on mobile devices due to the widespread availability of smartphones
While gaming is often associated with children and teens, 70% of Nintendo Switch gamers are actually 18 or older (perplexity)
I'm stunned. I was about to say why in the world would anybody try to sell Yakuza or something as complex as SF6 to 10-year olds. I'm guessing the demographic can afford a second console or PC that can play the superior versions.
>>713939441>they're basically SD cards.they are not, you FUCKING retard.
>they literally are>overpriced slow slop>betterare you fucking retarded?
>>713939549Let me ask you something, if you were the only person on the face of the planet. Who would the fastest man alive currently be?
>>713939618but i did have breakfast RETARD the Shitch 2 is dead in the water
>>713939441>sony/MS route of just not making true physical gamesSony does physical games just fine
>>713939618>fastest>bestLet me ask you a question:
if you are a bit faster than your shitty father, who is 80 years and has a brain disease and cancer, but you look like quasimodo and smell like shit and want to charge $500 an hour, are you the best male out there, or not?
>>713939618Usain Bolt is the fastest
>>713939757yes, Snoy copying Nintendo and putting it 100% on physical disc.
Copying Nintendo and then doing what Nintendon't.
>>713936117>Nintendo literally says that they will stop redownloads in the future, idiot.Where the fuck did they ever say that what company would ever be stupid enough to admit that even if it were true?
>>713939749Come on, don't pretend to be Eric because you know he's going to say something more retarded than that for example
>>713939793
>>713939618>I'm the best male out there>women just don't choose me, because uhhhhh I don't know, I'm da bestShitch 2
Trainwreck
>>713939874>where the fuck>how dare youhttps://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/7030/~/how-to-redownload-nintendo-dsi-shop-content
However, this option will also be discontinued at some point in the future.
However, this option will also be discontinued at some point in the future.
However, this option will also be discontinued at some point in the future.
COPE, you stupid tendie Steamie
>>713939757They're all installs meaning they don't play from the disc, hence "true" physical.
Those installs can be stopped just like digital games by the way.
>>713940031anyone buying anything digitally is fully retarded and should get exterminated.
>>713940031>tendie SteamieJesus fucking christ, you aren't even trying to hide it anymore.
Anyway
>(Exact date TBD)
>>713940085>you need to install games (without internet)>those do not really count as physical mediaGlad that you just said that countless of classic physical PC games do not count, because you are fucking retarded.
>only booter floppies for PC countvery low IQ
>>713940085>Those installs can be stopped just like digital games by the way.You don't need internet connection to play them you dishonest retard
>>713940174>they just said WILL BE DISCONTINUED>not even maybe>but because there is no date yet, it doesn't counttendie on suicide watch
>>713940204>Glad that you just said that countless of classic physical PC games do not countProblem is that a lot of classic PC games also have the option to play from the disc not unlike the PS3 for example and until companies like Sony and MS stuck their nose into video gaming proper there was almost no DRM.
>>713940085>Those installs can be stopped just like digital games by the way.and the tranny lies as usual.
No, my PS4 installs just fine without internet and plays without internet.
Unlike Steam-shit.
>>713940352Installing a game from disc to a faster hard drive or SSD is not a form of DRM you stupid retard
>>713940352>Problem is that a lot of classic PC games also have the option to play from the discNo, they don't, you stupid liar.
Sierra On-Line games all required installations EXCEPT the booter floppies, which you literally booted from (no OS loaded).
>tendies lying through their teeth again
love to see it
the lefties of gaming fan bases
>>713940378We will laugh when nintendo fails like they already have with the Mario Kart and Pokemon disappointments and valve takes their place the masters of handheld gaming. Even Lady Gaga had more hits in 2025 than Nintendo.and she's old news.
>>713937997Holy shit what a retard!
Nintendo chooses the sizes of cards it wants to manufacture. They can be any size they want, but being the autists they are they made the minimum 64gb for some ungodly reason.
This is N64 and gamecube nonsense all over again
>>713940352>all PS4 games require installationsBS
There are plenty of PS4 games that do not install at all, they are played from disc.
>>713940435He... Didn't say it was. He referred to them as separate things...
Are you okay, Eric?
>>713941045There's are literally zero games for the ps4 that play from the disc.
>>713941218>it doesn't install anything>it doesn't play from discfound the retard
>>713941462If you're so sure then name a game.
>>713941631around 10% of the games I own did not install anything, only downloaded an optional patch
do you think I will now delete all the game data to reinsert all the discs to figure out which is which?
anyone who owns a PS4 (not you), knows that this is true.
Also almost all PS4 physical disc releases play fine even without any patch.
>>713941824Can't even name one game, can you.
>anyone who owns a PS4 (not you),Ha.
I'm using it right now buddy. There's not a single game that doesn't install.
>>713942220Fix that led strip
>>713942220>I post a pic that I found on the internet, that means I'm legit
>>713942430Reverse search and find it then.
If you can.
>>713942220>Beat Souls need to get installedYes, it's a digital only game on Piss4, you fucking pleb
>>713933382I'd argue CDPR actually cared to squeeze it onto a card since they gave enough of a shit to not do a lazy port and optimize it as best as they could for it.
>>713942482>reverse image searches are perfectthey aren't.
you are a fraud.
>>713941023>They can be any size they want, but being the autists they are they made the minimum 64gb for some ungodly reason.Source? Give proof that there's carts available with that same technology and speed that Nintendo could use but don't
Is there any way to use Switch 1 carts (but with larger capacities like 64, 128 GB) as the equivalent of PS5 data disc so they can be installed on Switch 2 internal drive or express cards?
Because the key cards aren't going to work at all.
>>713942560No shit. It's almost as if I just took a picture of my ps4. Also I like how you just ignored the other games there that aren't digital only just to grasp for whatever straws you can.
>>713942637Looks like my picture that I just took is legitimate then.
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>>713942482I'm Trump, otherwise reverse image search this pic.
>>713942779Well yeah but no one wants installs.
>>713932286They mean from third party companies instead of indies. Outside of Japanese stuff like Capcom or Sega its rare for third party to sell on Nintendo.
>>713942889It's almost as if you are a shitposter.
Provide proof that this isn't Trump:
>>713942954Otherwise shut your fucking lying shit mouth.
>>713941824Your logic doesn't add up. Even if you had optional patches installed, then it would still be easy to determine if any game data off the disc was installed based on its total size, since the calculation would be easy like base pkg size + patches 1,2,3. We can easily compare it to ripped pkg files no problem.
>>713942779newsflash: most games do not require "pseudo-fast" access. In fact the Shitch 2 carts are slow as fuck regardless.
if you want actual fast access, the Shitch 2 carts won't do it.
>>713942954Okay "mister president" post it with the time.
>>713943097>your logic doesn't add up1) insert disc
2) it immediately says that game is "done copying", which means nothing was actually copied over
3) game can be started immediately and works
(you dumbass)
>well something has been getting installed during that 0.1 second>must be ultra fast special discs, that let you install 40 GB within 0.1 seconds
>>713928428>>713927948 (OP)>>713929429>>713938719>ITS OK THEY MADE LOTS OF MONEYWho asked
Also we're talking game keycards, those are third party publishers who are not making lots of money. They are, in fact, losing shittons of money by publishing on the Switch 2 on a keycard.
>>713943195>I can't find it, but you see you are not Trumpand you don't own a PS4.
>>713943129I'm just looking for a cheap solution to this shit since everyone is complaining about Switch 2 cart production costs.
>>713942956I'll take installs over key cards at this point.
>>713943214>it immediately says that game is "done copying", which means nothing was actually copied overThat's called an install anon. If you open your settings and go to system storage and the applications you can see exactly what was installed.
>>713943272>They are, in fact, losing shittons of moneygood
hope they stop releasing games on the Shitch 2.
>>713943337What games? Mario Kart?
>game key cards
funniest thing is how expensive SD express cards are.
Tendies are getting milked real hard
>>713943283>no time stampLooks like you lose again. Still waiting on you to post one game that doesn't install.
>>713943321>it copied a thumbnail over for the library>that's an installmeds
>>713943214But that's the thing, you're saying that but never giving any example at all of a single game that runs off the disc and are trying to move the goalpost of actually providing hard evidence.
Because your example right here could be from Hotline Miami collection for all I care, and that game weights only 150MB, which would take 3 seconds to fully install, meaning no time at all.
>>713943313there is none. the Shitch 2 is done and toast.
any collector that isn't retarded will not get that shit system.
indies will probably keep on releasing on Shitch 1, until Nintendo stops making carts for that. and then it's over.
>>713943313>I'll take installs over key cards at this pointThey're pretty much the same thing when it comes to downsides anyway.
“Yessu plecious shareholders… we have sord eberyting…”
“Why are we not making money?”
“Itsoge!? Gomen!! The money is coming in future…”
>>713943389>if you can't reverse image search it, it's legit, I'm legit5 minutes later
>uhhhh that doesn't countIt's thank you Mr. Genius Trump for peace in the Middle East for you.
>>713943391A thumbnail isn't going to be anywhere near a gigabite let alone the size of your average ps4 game.
>>713943394>if you say 5 game names after wasting your own time for half an hour, I will claim that this isn't true>just make a video of it>then I will claim that the video was modifiedAnyone WHO ACTUALLY OWNS a PS4 and lots of physical games, knows that this is true.
I own 100+ games. There were quite a few where literally that is the case. Disc in. no installation, done. And no, it's not slop like Hotline Miami.
>>713927948 (OP)This doesn't say anything about big third party releases coming to Nintendo hardware, and at this rate I'm going to say it probably won't happen.
>>713938367Because they're using new tech where smaller sizes literally don't exist yet.
>>713943549>a thumbnail takes a gigabyte???
meds
again:
when I insert a disc and it immediately tells me that it's done, no data was copied (except for a fucking thumbnail), and thus no installation happened and the game can get started immediately.
Cope
>but but magic fairy dust>it installed 40 Gigabytes within less than a second, because disc drive is very slow
>>713943614>Anyone WHO ACTUALLY OWNS a PS4 and lots of physical games, knows that this is true.That's me and I refute you by saying that all games I own had mandatory install on the HDD, there is not a single documented game on PS4 that runs off the disc itself.
>>713943705they are literally using THEIR OWN PROPRIETARY SHIT TECH. It'S THEIR CHOICE, you stupid homo.
>>713943614>There were quite a few where literally that is the case. Disc in. no installation, doneThen name one so we can verify if you're lying or not.
>>713943787No, you are a liar and a thief with your fake photos.
>>713943791It's not proprietary, they don't even make it themselves.
>>713943859I'm not the person that posted the PS4 pic. You are a liar.
>>713943807>waste your time on nonsense so that me the shitposter can say that it's fake>then make a video and I will also say it's fakepointless
>>713943867>it's not proprietaryokay, tell me where I can buy Shitch 1+2 carts for myself without games already on them.
>>713943901>I'm someone completely different, who just writes the same crapof course
>>713943934>>waste your time on nonsense so that me the shitposter can say that it's fake>>then make a video and I will also say it's fakeYou don't have to do any of that, you just have to name one game.
>>713943934It's not pointless because it would be groundbreaking news, as there is not a single documented game that runs off the disc without the need of HDD installation on PS4.
And it's not like people don't care because there is a very well documented database of XBONE,PS4 and Switch physical games requiring day one patches, online checks and whether the game data is on the disc, but somehow there is never a mention about running the game off the disc.
BTW, this is the same thing on XBONE, it forces you to install the game on its HDD. Even if you play og xbox or 360 game through back compat, you still need to install it and download emulation fixes.
>>713944053ha, not falling for that shit, shitposter.
you will do exactly what I wrote, that's why it's pointless.
you don't own a PS4 anyway and you will continue lying.
>>713944003Yes, but you can pretend that's case because it's convenient for you to change the goalpost and never prove anything.
>>713943452Switch 2 is still basically needed simply because of the performance boost for Switch 1 games. But yeah it doesn't look good for collectors.
>>713943457Physical Install prevents shenanigans like random censorship patches or content removal/changes.
>>713944084>documentedwhere's this "documentation", shitposter?
>requiring day 1 patchesalmost none require day 1 patches, shitposter in chief, and it has nothing to do with "installations" anyway, shitposter.
>require day 1 patches>and whether the game data is on the discwhy do you repeat the same multiple times? do you have brain cancer?
>>713930393>i-i-it's coming, it's gonna happen! just you see!Cope, snoy.
>>713944147so now you want "proof", just like I said.
you will accept nothing and will continue lying.
therefore it IS pointless.
I'm not deleting my game data to insert multiple discs into my PS4, to then redownload the patches, just to name games, which you will call fake or some other BS.
>>713944181>simply because>of broken backward compatibilityno thanks.
I want my games not crash.
>pay $500 for a slightly better frame rate, but new crashesno thanks bro
>>713943791Nintendo assembles the carts, they don't fab the actual chips you retard. Nintendo are the only buyer for fast rom chips like this, they are definitely paying a premium but the price will come down, undoubtedly Nintendo will prioritize reducing that price as fast as possible because that will allow them to push volume further reducing the price.
>64GB carts are the minimum size
>only key carts are cheaper
who could have foreseen this happening
>>713944358>Nintendo assembles the carts>Nintendo are the only buyer>but it's not proprietaryso where do I get clean Shitch 1+2 carts from without games on it?
if they aren't proprietary, that should be possible without problems.
>>713944427Do you ever get tired of endlessly seething at some japanese game company? It's been years, by now, you have to let go.
>>713944496I'm calling you fucking liar out.
The Shitch 1+2 carts are proprietary, which means Nintendo could have done literally anything they wanted to.
but they choose shitty 64 GB only carts, because they are trash.
>>713944427You are truly retarded, the physical game cart format is proprietary, the actual costly part, the rom chip that holds the games data is probably provided by macronix, ask them if you want one of those chips.
>>713944358>there are no Nintendo chips anywhereso where do I get these Mario chips from?
>>713944643>the format is proprietary, like FAT32lmao, no.
Shitch carts are not SD cards, you retarded fuck.
>>713944558I'm not that anon you've been arguing with, by the way, just a lurker. You being a blatant ESL aside, are you still trying to make 'Shitch' work? Because it's been years and I haven't seen it be used outsized of certain sections of this board in particular.
>>713944781Nice try, you are the ESL.
>>713944781>I'm a retarded lying fuckerhttps://gbatemp.net/threads/shitch-bricked-after-using-ubuntu.579909/
cope, you stupid tendie
>>713944781hahaha, even official stores call it the Nintendo Shitch
https://www.extra.com.br/nintendo-shitch/b
>>713944927If that's your best example than that's really pathetic
>>713944558>which means Nintendo could have done literally anything they wanted to.You're just like quadruple retarded at this point, Nintendo are limited by costs and what's possible, they can't have just said they wanted a 128GB cart for 5c each, it doesn't work that way, they work with what's available and what it costs. Here's the main part of it why offer a 16GB rom cart if it costs you 5c less per unit than a 64GB cart, what value is there in such meaningless savings, hell you're better off just signing a bulk deal for 64GB carts to eliminate that gap in savings, which is most likely what happened, Nintendo has nothing to gain from charging a premium for carts since they literally make more money on the licensing fee than they would on the mark up from selling the cart itself, and the assembly process for the new carts would already be cost optimized outside of the new rom component because the carts manufacturing process would be largely identical to the Switch cart manufacturing process.
>>713945009>it's only on this board2 seconds later
>that doesn't countI accept your concession, you are a retarded ESL liar, tendie.
>>713945007Nigger you just entered "nintendo shitch* into the search bar. You have a serious problem
>>713944332Anon people wanted a Switch Pro. Switch 2 is the best they can get. But if people want their games at an unstable 30fps have it.
>>713944692>making up a quote>complete false equivalenceThere's retarded and then there's you.
>>713944770>fat 32You're a fucking retard if you think that's remotely the same thing
>>713945010>Nintendo are limited by costs and what's possible>anything below 64 GB *IS ULTRA EXPENSIVE* AND *IMPOSSIBLE*>remember: the less bits you have, the more impossible and expensive it's going to bemeds
>>713944927Nice, one thread on some random forum. I'm sure your efforts have been well-worth it, then. By the by, this thread is from 2020, and the issues appears to be user error.
>Yup, tegrarcm doesnt even detect my switch. On device manager, my switch apx mode appears disconected>--------------------- MERGED --------------------------->SSorry guys, everything ok. I just plugged my switch to a faulty usb
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>>713927948 (OP)how long until the shareholders begin clamoring for that PC money
>>713945098false, google search LMAO
official stores have it listed as Nintendo Shitch, because it's shit.
>>713945078He never said "it's only on this board", he said that he's never seen it anywhere else. Linking to a litteral who post from a literal who website from 5 years ago does not is not helping your case whatsoever
>>713945162>it doesn't coooouuunnnntttI accept your concession, fucking lying piece of shit ESL.
>>713945210The text literally tanslates to "you searched nintendo shitch" you dumb fucking retard
>>713945236>he just said only on this board>but he didn't say only on this boardhttps://mariofanon.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Mario_Smokers
inb4
>that doesn't count either!!!meds
>it's a mistake!!!meds
>>713927948 (OP)Third parties aren't doing badly on Switch 2 because of muh game key card (although I agree that those are wack)
They're doing badly because they're selling full-price versions of games that have been available for years at a cheaper price in other platforms, with little to no new things to offer on this new platform
>>713945181So long as Nintendo keeps making 'fuck you' money like it has been for the past 8 years, I don't think they'll have much reason to complain. Not enough to fight Nintendo itself over it. The shareholders could get greedy, but that doesn't seem like enough motivation to fight for this when the company is famously conservative about new fields.
>>713945293anon, a single obscure example is not a strong argument for a word catching on. Hell, it kind of implies the opposite since it shows how deep you had to look
>>713945315so tons of people must search for "Nintendo shitch", glad that you agree.
>>713936402Modern ps5 games are just worse pc versions. I don't like modern pc gaming. My only option is the switch since I travel a lot
>>713945162>it's from 2020, therefore it doesn't count!!!https://icon-era.com/threads/sie-ceo-says-hes-not-concerned-about-the-switch-2s-improved-specs-because-ps5-level-performance-is-required-for-a-great-experience-on-big-screens.17681/
>that must be Eric toomeds
>>713945431This is genuinely the dumbest thing I've seen you argue yet. Have you ever gone to a doctor to check up on your mental health?
>>713945543>it's on Google search and on that web server, because no one searches for it ever
>>713945420if i were a nintendo shareholder i'd be paying close attention to what kind of money companies like sega, capcom, scamco and the like are making
and me as a consoomer i would probably be willing to buy nintendo games if they were sold on my platform of choice with modding features
>>713945606Get help, I'm serious
>>713945468>My only option is the switch since I travel a lotSteam Deck, tendie
>>713945007>.brhuehuehue favela nigger
>>713945704But Steam and PCs are slop especially when combined with Loonix
>>713945704Do you even own a steam deck? Or do you hate a company so bad you're willing to shill something you've never seen in person?
>>713945743You don't have to use Steam on the Deck, tendie
>>713945704I have one and it doesn't get much use. Its a portable pc which is neat, but has all the pc niggles.
>>713945720>it's only on this board>uhhh>it doesn't counttendies on suicide watch
>>713945380It's a mix of 4 things.
>third party exclusives are nearly dead so no one made any other than a single JP only idol game and no one cares about late ports except maybe cyberpunk to test the mouse shit until mp4 is out>game key carts are lame>everyone would rather play mario kart instead(that might have changed as of the recent update that killed 3 lap tracks online)>it's backwards compatible so unlike the switch 1 there's no reason to buy new games to have something to play(+many old games got updates to encourage replays)The early buyers are either idorts or huge Nintendo fans. Idorts have played the games and Nintendo fans have a whole back catalog of Nintendo's Switch 1 games to go through and Nintendo fans would much rather do that than play Street Fighter.
>>713945760>Do you even own a steam deck?>ad hominemBut yes, I do. It's comfy.
>>713945770>you don't need SteamI heard it's an exclusive to the Steam casino store
also Loonix is broken as fuck and I don't buy garbage PCs anyway.
So let's recap
>"shitch" poster does not know how manufacturing work
>does not know that damn near every console game in the past 10 years need an instal
>does not know how to use Google
>doesn't own half of the shit he claims to have
>think nintendo can just wish things in and out of existence at whim
Anything else I'm missing? Because right now this nigger is seriously wrong in everything I see so far.
>>713945816Why do people pretend like race mode is the most popular? Since launch knockout tour is the most active mode. You find games in seconds
>>713945704no game ownership, why bother?
>>713927948 (OP)>japan>they often hear 3rd parties don't sell wel on nintendo hardwareHoly fucking behind the times. Someone hasn't been looking at the famitsu charts lately
>>713945156Yeah so you are retarded and just fundamentally misunderstand this topic in general, at certain points it becomes less cost effective to manufacture some components, and undoubtedly this is where Switch 2 carts are, like I stated the cost of manufacturing lower capacity components could actually be more expensive, it could be priced so closely to the 64GB cart that there's no point or the manufacturing process just isn't set up to handle such small parts, we don't know but when you consider that NINTENDO LITERALLY MAKES MORE MONEY ON THE LICENSING FEE THAN THE MARKUP FOR SWITCH ROM CARTS AND THAT THERE IS LITERALLY ZERO FINANCIAL INCENTIVE FOR NINTENDO TO NOT OFFER A SMALLER SIZE you can if you aren't retarded like yourself make an educated guess that smaller sizes make zero sense financially.
>the less bits you have, the more impossible and expensive it's going to beThis can be the case, the Switch Oled having 64GB of storage was most likely a cost thing with 64GB at that point in time undercutting 32GB.
>>713945946Same as Switch. But with the added benefit of games actually being cheap.
>>713945915>>does not know that damn near every console game in the past 10 years need an instal>Shitch games need an instalthey don
>>713946002no, Shitch has physical games on cart.
Only Shitch 2 is more like Valve-slop.
>>713945993>64 GB carts are super expensive>but 4 GB carts would be triple expensive!!!meds
>>713946043Explain the essence of your "argument" first
>>713946075>>but 4 GB carts would be triple expensive!!!how does the Shitch 1 do it?
it's a myster
I only hear a lispy Indian behind the keyboard when Im forced to read "SHITCH"
>>713946104I'm not making an argument. I just see you shilling the steam deck all the time and I want to know if you even have one. I'm more likely to listen to a review of a product from someone who actually owns the product. Now, do you have prrof or not?
>>713946142it's an accurate name for a shit system, where the trillion yen corporation is even too lazy to fix fucking drifting shit controllers, and retards on here defend them anyway.
>>713946217btw. Wii U Pro controllers were half the price, had way longer battery live and no drift
>>713946187>I'm not making an argument.Okay then shut the fuck up tendie
>>713946307Do you have proof or not? Because it's starting to sound like you don't
>>713946275All modern controllers drift dude. The wii u had a nice layout, but felt cheap and add anything. Its why it lasted so long
>>713946275
>>713946142Switch + Shit = Switch
It's very simple. You should be familiar with this naming scheme because Pokemon names work the exact same way.
>>713946371>Switch + Shit = Switchfug :D
>>713927948 (OP)Nope. I have stable internet 2Gbps internet and refuse to buy game key cards. Nintendo would tank the Switch 2 sales if they did 1st party games on game key cards and this proves it.
>>713946371No thats just how a lispy jeet would try to pronounce a word from a language he has no business speaking
>>713945816The sales of FFXVI on other platforms show that actually exclusivity wasn't the issue, the sales of Monster Hunter Rise on Switch 1 show that exclusivity is still valuable, and that's with that game having serious performance issues and that version being undesirable to play, and Nintendo's own titles show that exclusivity not only still holds value but it still holds significant value
The problem with exclusivity these days is that it's often so half assed or miss matched with the audience and the developers/publishers often blame the wrong reason for the games failures.
The fact that third parties have so fundamentally misread the Switch has just managed to further solidify Nintendo's market position while diminishing their own, other console brands are already dying, Xbox is lying in it's coffin and Playstation are assembling their own, I wonder how third parties will cope when they have only Nintendo left and Nintendo has already fielded games that will just automatically outcompete what third parties have to offer.
Can someone explain to me why Nintendo is catching all the flack for the Game Key shit? It's not a terrible idea by itself, and Nintendo clearly intended it to be a supplemental option to physical and digital. It's not Nintendo's fault the most jewish creatures alive refuse to spend and extra shekel or two to put the games on a physical cart. Nintendo gave companies two options, almost all third party devs, apparently HQ'd in Israel, decided to go with the cost cutting option.
>>713945915He's also a projecting ESL.
Probably a pajeet since he's obsessed with shit.
>>713946464>Can someone explain to me why Nintendo is catching all the flack for the Game Key shit?Because it's a terrible idea by itself.
>>713946075That's not even what I stated, not even remotely, you just completely and fundamentally don't understand the conversation at hand, and it's hilarious that you are just making a huge ass out of yourself.
>>713946367>it's a standard featurekys, shill
>>713946371>You should be familiar with this naming scheme because Pokemon names work the exact same way.kek true
>>713946425What do you mean "this proves it"? This is literally a shareholding saying "i've heard 3rd parties don't sell well on Nintendo systems". He is NOT specifically saying that 3rd parties are selling poorly on switch 2.
>>713946527>1 GB is *mega* expensive>but 64 GB is *super* expensivemeds
>there is just no wayhow does the Shitch 1 do it?
>but that's Shitch 1, not a modern Shitch 2meds
>>713946553Thats not what I said faggot
>>713946464Because it's on their platform, Nintendo gave third parties rope and they chose to hang themselves and then blame Nintendo, as always it's great to see third parties further run their position into the ground, but what's not great is why the fuck haven't they been supplanted yet, Falcom in the 80s was actually a big name, they've never recovered and they are too tone deaf to seemingly ever recover, they could seize Square Enix's position but simply choose not to.
>>713946514It's a digital copy that is capable of being shared. You could also do the same thing with a physical copy by Vile Shlomobergwitz refuses to pay for a cart. This is an additional option that helps consumers, if devs weren't jewish.
>>713946624>they sell super well on my Shitch 2>I'm not shilling anything>gay keys are a massive success!!!>how about you also get these, saar?
>>713946696>It's a digital copy that is capable of being shared.Until Nintendo bans your console for sharing too much
>>713946715>self hating jeet projecting again
>>713946453Third party exclusivity is no longer really a thing because games cost too much these days and they need to have them release on as many places as possible to reach as many markets as possible to actually recoup the costs. MH Rise got ported off because of that, so did the Final Fantasy games. In order for permanent third party exclusives to be a thing again, the games have to be cheaply made like that train game that sells a shit ton on the Switch but even then most companies would want a PC port at bare minimum so they can put a Mandarin translation in and maybe sell it to the Chinese.
>>713946637>all modern controllers for homos like myself are broken slop>and I support it>because there's just no other way
>>713946715I said none if those things you inbred faggot
>>713946739Has this happened yet?
I'm still waiting for proof it's nintendo's fault they're not manufacturing game cards that are less than 64gigs.
>>713946739Valve has been doing that for ages, but now it's a problem when Nintendo does it?
>>713946464It’s possible they don’t give them options… does anyone really know the minimum requirements to qualify your game for a legit retail card? Maybe that’s the issue
>>713946514I can sure you that this crap was 100% input from 3rd parties and Nintendo just gave them the option, if it were otherwise Nintendo themselves would be using it, and so far none of their games will use it.
besides, look who are the ones that jumped right on that bandwagon, all the usual suspects.
If Digimon manages to be a traditional Physical game I'll suck Bamco's dick but I'm 100% sure it wont happen,
>>713946624I don't think they'd need to ask if it wasn't a concern, right?
Plus, they have to see 1st party titles selling well compared to 3rd party titles not selling as well.
>>713946809Nintendo is very ban happy. I wouldn't be surprised.
>>713946635So yet again quoting something I never stated, actually I clarified that the gap in price is most likely just not at all worth manufacturing these components, if you are saving only a few cents by cutting the size of the rom chip into 1/4 then there's no value there, but if say you just push 1 size and aim to hit economies of scale you will save more than the gap between these 2 chip sizes in a shorter time.
At this point you will never understand, because you lack the intelligence to do so, that other guy is right, you are probably indian.
>>713927948 (OP)So where Mortal Kombat X, Street Fighter V and new Tekken
>>713946739I hate when I get console banned for dumb shit. You know Snoy bricked my PS5 when they realized I was a straight white male? Apparently only LGTV and browns are allowed to own one.
>>713946809yes
>>713946836>minimum requirements to qualify your game for a legit retail cardyes, it's called money.
>>713946831Valve can't render your PC useless you fucking retard.
Nintendo can and they will.
>>713946836> the minimum requirementsSpend $1.50 per cart.
>>713946880>memories is super expensive saar>if they would offer 4 GB carts, that would be very bad for business saar>you see it makes sense that all NES games are on 100 GB carts
>>713946864>I don't think they'd need to ask if it wasn't a concern, right?This is a shareholder we are talking about. They're almost as dumb as you are. Not to mention he's wrong about 3rd parties doing poorly on nintendo hardware, especially in japan. The dude seems 10 years behind the times.
I've been saying it for almost 20 years (and been banned numerous times between 2008-12) that Nintendo is the Apple of the gaming world
The cultists will buy and defend The Brand no matter how shitty price:performance the products get
>3rd party don't sell
>but muh japan data!
>literally irrelevant as it seems
>cultists go back to the usual cries and calling everyone "Eric"
everytime
>>713946926>have gayming PC>want to play latest slop>have to have Steam slop>Steam slop says nope, your computer is not acceptable anymore>money stolen, PC now e-waste>have to buy new PC>Steamies fine with this>Thanks Valve DRM
>>713946953People say 16$ but no official price has been released from what I know, it’s only rumor
>>713947028Can anybody summarize this schizo slop for me?
What is his argument here, chat?
>>713947016Didn't sega literally just come out and say they were surprised by how well yakuza sold on the switch?
>>713946637>i receive you
>>713947096Chat, I'm close to getting this new achievement.
Chat, this is so funny, I fell and now I have to start over, chat.
Haahhahaa, so funny chat.
This will make very funny content, chat.
chat? tell me what I have to do beucuse I'm a lazy bum bum
chat, hello?
>>713927948 (OP)How does it feel to know you're so dumb you're reaching lolcow status?
behead shareholders. roundhouse kick shareholders. stir shareholders into a wok. throw shareholders into an active volcano. shit in shareholders’ food.
>>713947335but enough about Shitch 2 purchasers
>>713946771Monster Hunter Rise sold more than half on Switch, 8 million to the 5 million on other platforms, and that's with the Switch version being noticably the worst, and not just on a technical level like the textures are lower res, no the game was blurry and played worse due to the lower framerates and other performance issues, in spite of that issue most copies were sold on that platform, and Nintendo only paid 1 million for that exclusivity. And at no point did I state that an exclusive should be permanent, a made for this platform timed exclusive is fine too.
You're just jumping into the same flawed logic of third parties that the high costs require it to be multiplat, but Nintendo themselves continue to disprove this notion completely, and that's without discounting their own games.
Monster Hunter Rise is the only big budget third party exclusive on Nintendo hardware and it sold 8 million units, that's a 100% success rate for big budget Switch exclusives.
>>713947124Fake news. Director "heard" that it sold good and it didn't make it into the investors updates and the recent leak
>>713946696It's a $15 difference if they buy the real cart. Remember that Nintendo takes a 30% cut and then retailers take another cut on top of that and then there is also distribution fees. The cost of physical becomes too much for companies to reasonably bare if they're losing an extra $15 on top of it and it stops them from being able to put games on sale for half price early on like many companies currently do because that extra $15 hits harder the cheaper the game is. It might stop them from ever having Switch 2 game releasing at half price, look Witcher 3 on Deku Deals. The switch 1 version on a 32gb cart never went bellow $30 but it's been $8 on Xbox and $14 on PS4. Even the digital Switch 1 version was $15, you're literally paying an extra $15 for the 32gb cartridge.
https://www.dekudeals.com/items/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-complete-edition?platform=all
It's not being jewish, releasing physically on Switch 2 is flat out retarded because it can take away from digital sales or boxed sales on other platforms and these companies would lose money if they sell you a Switch 2 game for $35 whereas it'd be pure profit everywhere else so you're just flat out paying a premium so that Nintendo can charge them out the ass for a 64gb cartridge that might be too small to even fit a modern game regardless. The majority of Switch 1 owners didn't only have a Switch, so if a game is on key cart then will probably just buy it on another platform instead.
>>713947335Reaching, you mean to imply he didn't reach by the first year anniversary of the Switch 1 releasing?
Why are Nintendo fans so mentally ill?
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>>713947597Because they just are.
They defend multi gajillion corporation because childhood trauma.
also see Valve.
>>713933387you can resell digital too, just make a new a account for each game and sell the account
>>713947657>>713947335>EVERYONE IS ERICyou are literally mentally ill, like seriously, I bet you even manufactured said "Eric" to make your side seem "sane"
>>713947729is this the latest Steamie cope?
btw. ebay bans you if you try to sell accounts.
>>713947756Erics, we broke the tendie.
Job well done.
>>713931862What? Is this supposed to be an insult to Nintendo and a shitpost to the Anon
>>713947756It's ironic. Calm down, Eric.
Who melts faster? Eric or a PS5?
>>713947801who said anything about ebay
>>713947541>It's not being jewishIt's flat out Jewish, don't try and defend them when smaller developers chose the physical carts compared to relative titans like capcom and square
>>713948243depends on the day of the week
>>713948369You can call them jewish but at the same time, would you really pay $15 more per game you buy to offset the cost of the cartridge or would you buy the game elsewhere because you're also jewish and dont' want to waste $15? If you buy any game on sale, it will be $15 more like the Witcher 3 already is on Switch 1.
The question then becomes what loses the corporations more money. The game key cart or customers refusing to eat that $15 physical tax. If they misread the market on their willingness to buy the $15 physical tax then they're out money on all the cartridges they bought but won't sell.
>>713928428>consumer experience is shit and the console being carried on pure cultist hype as they kill their only console exclusive with obtuse self-destructive updates>ah but the shareholder value is highThis is a culmination of the modern game industry. Why pay marketers when your consumers can pay you to do the work instead
>>713948637>If they misread the marketAnon, there is no misreading the market, the digital adoption rate has stagnated at 70/30 and it isn't moving. Keys were doomed to be a failure
>>713950498Misreading the market in this scenario would be misreading if people are willing to pay $50 for the Switch 2 version of the game that's $35 everywhere else when it's on sale. Paying more for the worse version might be a tough sell, it's a sizable portable tax.
The system itself sucks, it was rigged from the start. Either way consumers lose because they either own nothing or they have to pay a premium to own the game because Nintendo wanted to do 1 single cartridge size that's honestly even too small when many new third party games are 100+gb. Nintendo fucked up the distribution and third parties are the ones taking the flak even though the current situation should keep the price of games down for Switch 2 users once games go on sale. CIP again being Witcher 3 on the Switch opting for an expensive cart and never going below $30.
>>713936402Because PC sucks, also
>reddit frog
>>713942954How do you feel that your birthday parade and your much hyped bombing of Iran were both massive flops Donny?
We're talking Concord and Marathon level flops of not only failing, but damaging the brand of the American military.
>>713951417>and third parties are the ones taking the flakFor good reason, it was an anti consumer choice that they willingly made.
The fact that I'll be alive to see the mass exodus of collectorfags is pretty nice.
>>713952974Physical isn't going anywhere anon. That said, the companies that refuse to accept that might
>>713953314You're right the turbo nerd minority really has them by the leash.
>>713928428SPBP
trannies btfo
>>713933405Even with the popularity of Nintendo games, Cyberpunk 2077 was still one of the best selling games on Switch 2.
>>713935349hey dipshit you know the guy who made the video you posted made a new video about the new patch saying they fixed (basically) everything, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fxr43IlKY4
>>713947031It's from some Brazilian guy who claims it is part of the Arc System hack
>>713945627>if i were a nintendo shareholder i'd be paying close attention to what kind of money companies like sega, capcom, scamco and the like are makingNintendo are making far more than them anon. The shareholders won't want Nintendo on PC because the only option on PC is steam and that means 30% of 1st party game sale revenue going to Valve. Any of the platform holders would have to be literally retarded and self-destructive to put their 1st party games on PC.
>>713950498>Keys were doomed to be a failureNot defending it or anything, but we do NOT have any confirmation on how well key cards are actually performing in the market. The shareholder in OP just said "based on nintendo's history with 3rd parties, I'm concerned about key cards." We have 0 idea if they have ACTUALLY been a failure or not.
Man the usual suspects are really desperate for Nintendo to go down this time huh
>>713933753my copium is that epic is waiting for firmware updates to free some of the reserved cores and RAM before they add the missing features, since there really is no good reason it doesn't have features from the PS4 and xbone versions.
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>>713928428How is this possible?? I spent years of my life shitposting on 4chan for nothing!!!
17 days until the schizos shit themselves all over again.
>>713927948 (OP)Most consumers are just ignorant. They simply do not truly understand what these game key cards are. They think maybe that its simply normal you have to hook your game console up to the internet to download updates for the game you just bought because games are so much more advanced these days. Its not occurring to them really that this shouldn't be necessary.
Consumers will just consume no matter how awful the slop is. I guess even normies have their limits but it shouldn't surprise you guys Nintendo is getting away with it. If any company could lead us into a dark age of gaming its definitely them because they have the most loyal brand cultists of any gaming company. Only sports loving and CoD loving faggots seem to outclass your average tendie. But those fanboys truly are soulless goyslop loving normal shits. They have the soul of a bug. So its expected they will buy the next Fifa, Madden or Cowadoodoo.
>>713963589Seethe harder schizo
>>713963665Ever heard of the Nintendo bonus fag? Yeah
>>713963796>he has to make up fake scores and conspiracy theories to cope lma0o
>>713933156So they can confuse and deceive old people.
gamecube all over again
They ruin themselves with these shitty sequels to consoles i.e. Wii > WiiU, Switch > Switch 2
Should've made the SNES2 instead if they're gunna go with this shit
>>713952974Do you not know how collectorfags work?
They WANT them to stop producing phsyical games so their shit jumps in price.
>>713938586>Stocks have gotten progressively separated from logic anonIn most cases, yeah. Fastest console release ever sounds logical.
Not selling third party games, yet selling tons of consoles means people only buy nintendo games on it. This isnt bad news for nintendo and not even for the end user. Nobody in their right mind buys a nintendo console to play third parties
>>713953523They are 1/3rd of all sales on switch, so its still a big piece of the pie
>>713927948 (OP)Even the shareholders realize game key cards are bullshit and publishers should just eat the costs.
>>713956076>but we do NOT have any confirmation on how well key cards are actually performing in the market.NTA but famitsu sales charts are a thing and the game keys are all below anything physical
>>713928428This tells me everything I need to know. Gaming, as a medium for nerding out, is dead. Casuals, corpos, and all the worst traits of pc gaming have driven in the final nails on the coffin.
But hey, at least everything will look and feel like each other in 5-10 years time, with another price hike and subscription or two.
i penny pinch my disability for two years to get ready for the next gen of nintendo dominance and now it's looking like we're not even getting ports????
this is such fucking bullshit /v/ros, our response? there's no way i can convince my grandma to let me finance a prebuilt at this point for 3rd party games....
>>713964284>Nobody in their right mind buys a nintendo console to play third partiesNintendo isn't going to be able to keep this shit up forever. Sooner or later its going to bite them in the ass and they will be forced to sell off the company or go under fast.
>>713964997nta, but if they keep their current "successful trends" momentum, I'm disappointingly inclined to believe they'll be fine for the foreseeable future, or until the industry implodes
>>713938074because Nintendo bowed down to the DEI gods, they're now worse than snoy rn
>>713965283The minute Pikachu and Mario don't sell gangbusters like is expected every time its going to be serious trouble for Nintendo immediately. Without any of their top franchises selling gangbuster numbers they would be in very deep shit very fast. They don't have the 3rd party support Sony or Microsoft has. MS also doesn't need to rely on gaming exclusively for their wealth as a company.
>>713965346Yet they're more successful than ever, unlike Sony.
Curious, it's almost like making good games is what matters the most.
>>713927948 (OP)Threadly reminder
>>713965478>The minute Pikachu and Mario don't sell gangbusters like is expected every time its going to be serious trouble for Nintendo immediatelyOf course. However, I don't see that happening at all, and for what Nintendo has become, I wish they would fail. Not because what they are, but because what they could've been, and for reinforcing the corpo subscription trend
>>713933378They care more about those than AAA slop lololol
>>713930310Nintendo made it an option thoughbeit.
>>713964537They're also either ports of old games, games available on Switch 1 (in which SEGA expects its customers to pay full-price again instead of giving the ability to upgrade) or relatively niche. In addition to deal with Mario Kart World which sucks all the attention. I could easily bet that a keycard of Elden Ring would sell fairly well on Switch2 for instance.
>>713965931>trust literally who>Americans are retarded
>>713966256What improved version of Nintendo do you wish existed? to me apart from paid online and actually giving a fuck about third parties I think they are fine.
>>713969663>Guy who's been running NPD for over a decade>Literal who
>>713971073fuck off, it's some shitposter
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>Americans are retarded>but this one isn'tChoisir un
>>713952974That guy bought all of that to have as a background for his retro YouTube channel which flopped
>>713928428>more money LE GOOD>popular = LE GOODgaming has fallen...
>>713971640Mat Piscatella is literally the person the initial "Third party games on the Switch 2 are selling below expectations" headline came from.
>>713952335>nintendo gives them the option>it's basically the only option for their business model of putting games on sale for half price 3 months inThe reality is that cartridges are too expensive to be feasible now, a repeat of the 1990's where CDs overtook them because of costs. It's really picking how you want to be fucked in the ass by Nintendo. Would you rather pay a $15 Switch 2 tax on every game or would you rather have everything on cartridge? Most people might pretend it's the latter but they'll never pay $15 more for every game, just look at how mad people were about the $10 increase and you can still have both of those are the same time. Third party games being $55 on sale is a complete joke but that's what Cyberpunk is going to be. Consider that an $80 game will be $40 at half price instead of $30 too. You'd be paying $20 more than you currently are for $70 games that become $35. Fuck, it's $25 more than it was last gen when $60 games were $30.
>>713927948 (OP)Every single 3rd party game that comes out for Nintendo is something from the previous generation or a watered down version of a current gen game that came out a couple of years ago.
People don't buy Nintendo products for third party games though.
Also, aren't game key cards optional?
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>>713976014>People don't buy Nintendo products for third party games though.Why do you keep parroting this lie?
>>713976114It's not a lie, you think I'm saying that people don't buy third party games for Nintendo, which of course is wrong.
But people buy Nintendo consoles because they want Nintendo games. Third party support is the cherry on top.
>>713976351ah my bad then for the misunderstanding
>>713976562Yeah, it seems to me that investors were complaining to Nintendo that they gave studios the option to get cheaper cartridges which resulted in lower sales.
But that's pretty much a non-issue. If studios find out that GKC is directly related to lower sales, they simply need to use actual cartridges.
>>713973979reality does that, I don't need a shitposter for that
>>713976351>Ubislop is the cherry on top.
>>713976813>If studios find out that GKC is directly related to lower sales, they simply need to use actual cartridges.they'll go digital only, they're not gonna eat the cost. the amount of switch 2 only gamers is gonna be small and they'll probably buy the game out of fomo regardless if it's digital or gkc.
>>713977542Digital only leads to even lower sales
>>713978550on a single platform where they'd lose money if idorts bought the switch 2 physical version instead if the corps had to eat the cart cost. this idea that most people will only own a switch 2 is silly, didn't 70% of switch 1 owners also have a different console? that 30% is prolly full of children and women who bought a switch for acnh and ring fit. the physical cost would go to consumers and there ain't no one payin extra for physical, the entire reason steam took off is because digital was cheaper than physical back then.
>>713927948 (OP)I thought the Wii u was unappealing but holy shit they managed to beat that
>>713932286>everyone and their grandmother put their indie game on switch.That doesn't mean the game sold, retard.
>>713928246You reacted! :0
>>713973494Yes of course you really want Nintendo to be flopping and nobody buying their products. That's nice and healthy isn't it?
>>713980767It factually means it sells otherwise people wouldn't do it more than once
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