Why are you guys so opposed to a remake of this masterpiece?

>>713966632 (OP)
This was the worst souls

>>713966632 (OP)
A remaster exists

It exists and it's inferior so I guess they were right

a remake would have to add the rest of the game, which is 75% extra game to add.
at that point it would just be dark souls 2.

>>713966632 (OP)
when has a remake of anything ever been good? besides aoe2: de I can't think of a single game

>>713966632 (OP)
Because I'd rather Fromsoft dedicate time to making new games instead of rehash bullshit and remakes unlike the rest of this fucking dogshit industry.

>>713966632 (OP)
A remake will only expose how mediocre this game is, the games claim to fame is an overwhelming nostaglia to the early parts of the game.

because dark souls 1-3 were just asset farms to help make elden ring. they served their purpose in life.

>>713966690
>>713966748
You mean the best Souls game.
>>713966693
I'm talking a remake that enhances the more dated aspects of the gameplay and also improves problematic level design of the game such as Lost Izalith.

If a thing needs a remake then it can't be a masterpiece. It is contradictory. Dark souls doesn't need a remake.

>>713966632 (OP)
Its was no masterpiece

>>713966917
Only 1 and 3. I don't even know why 2 exists.

>>713966863
But they never made a better world then Lordran. People still praise the shortcut to Firelink Shrine as based even to this day. From themselves have yet to make such an interconnected game world to this day, not counting Elden Ring.

>>713966632 (OP)
Didn't we already have a remake? And it shat all over the original lighting?

Anyways, Dark Souls is not a game /v/ like to talk about nowadays. It is busy pretending it's the worst game ever, or that Dark Souls 2 is a masterpiece (lol).

>>713966880
Tired of this bullshit meme of "le second half of the game is shit!" Its not true at all.

>>713966880
>overwhelming nostaglia to the early parts of the game.
Even most of that was kind of bad except for a few areas. DS I wasn't a very good game, but it did lay foundation for great games to follow.

>>713966925
>>713966927
Wasn't The Last of Us literally praised as the Citizen Kain of gaming? Which implies its a masterpiece beyond most other masterpieces?

>>713966880
>>713967081
all I'm hearing from these posts is
>goo gooo ga gaa

>>713967118
I did not play it nor have I watched Citizen Kain.

>>713967081
>literally the ultimate game of all time
>not good according to anon
Keep coping

>>713967051
Honestly I don't see much of a difference between the first and second half of the game, from my perspective people overrate the first half and the second half is the same game but without the interconnected nonsense people praise to high heaven for some reason.

>>713967194
Probably because you are a jeet

>>713966986
That's a load of horseshit, AC6 had more character and world-building than DaS without needing interconnected maps. They could do so much more if they unhitched from some of the DaS baggage. Which is what I think they're trying to do with Nightreign and the switch thing, but now they're trying to copy Elden Ring. From is at their peak when they aren't trying to chase their previous successes, and the sooner they realize that the sooner they will start churning out masterpieces.

>>713967474
>people praise to high heaven for some reason.
Because there is not much else to praise about it

Why dont you want new games?

>>713966632 (OP)
who is against this? I think it would be good, but they'd have to change a lot which would piss off a hardcore fanbase, and thus will never be done.

>>713967929
>who is against this?
Just scroll up

>>713968056
I mean beside obvious trolls

>>713967474
>>713967542
But Kingsfield 4 did it first AND better

>>713966632 (OP)
What's the point? Make new games instead. You can play the remaster or the original just fine.

>>713967213
Or Citizen Kane?

>>713968128
You can't really make the distinction nowadays. /v/ zoomers, having never played Dark Souls, like to shit upon it. It's a kinda "this game is SHIT because you like it" thought process, complete pajeet behavior. No Dark Souls thread can be standing here without one or two young pajeets shitting on it.

I miss 2016.

>>713966632 (OP)
>that stumble after every halberd swing
Shit game. Reminder in Kingsfield you can move and swing a halberd with no restrictions

>>713967929
>but they'd have to change a lot which would piss off a hardcore fanbase
Not sure why. The game is fairly available as it is. The remaster more so but many are getting the PTD edition through other means. I'd welcome changes because the game can be improved in a lot of ways. Its a lot like the first gen of Pokemon. Iconic great games but they had plenty of issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6JH0EfTIKw

>>713968491
Did a proper version of that Project Dark trailer ever surface?

>>713966632 (OP)
It was a meh game at best. The inability to warp and the boss run backs are poor attempts to hide how small the game really is, so it tries to waste your time instead. Then it just gives up and drops you into unfinished locations. Pathetic.

>>713968375
Interesting because the post right under yours comes across as if a pajeet posted it.

>>713968436
The reason why halberds suck is because the Mirdan hammer was absolutely disgusting in Demon's Souls, so much that halberds still pay the price for its sins.

>>713966632 (OP)
I’m not, there is a lot to improve on

>>713968975
Halberds are broken as shit in DS1 anyway. The stumble doesn't make the Black Knight Halberd not the best weapon in the game by a mile.

>>713968835
shiet mayne life be hard but don't hollow playa

>>713968835
His estus is the 10 piece KFC chicken bucket

>>713966632 (OP)
>Why are you guys so opposed to a remake of this masterpiece?
if it's a masterpiece then why does it need a remake?

>>713966632 (OP)
What would be the point of a remake?

>>713966920
What are the dated aspects of the gameplay in your opinion?

>>713966632 (OP)
>reduce every items durability by 90%
>repairing it reduces the max durability by 1 until it eventually turns to dust
>estus are limited drops that dont auto refill
>when you die the game gets harder
>you respawn with half full health (1 on hard mode)
>stamina can go negative and with it extreme movement penalties
>status effects persist after death and last generally 30 minutes
>dying increases hollowing by 1 which increases damage you take by a %
If they made all these changes it would be a masterpiece. Yet this industry is too cowardly to ever do such a thing.

>>713966986
Okay then play it
Why does every game need endless remasters?

I feel like BB is in a monkey's paw situation right now
It's been so long I'm guessing their mindset if they re-release now is that it needs to be some high effort remakeslop that ruins the original artistic intent.
Game looks so good it just needs some good upscaling, lighting touch ups (could be remembering wrong but iirc it has that same sterile lighting DS3 kinda had), and turning off the fucking filter.

>>713966632 (OP)
its perfect the way it is

>>713966632 (OP)
The game Is a master piece as it is and a remake would only deliver a worse experience. See: Demon Souls and how it became piss easy

>>713969707
>clumsy controls
not talking about movement speed but 4-directional rolls, queued rolls activating several seconds after you hit the button if you're out of stamina, entirely too easy reverse rolls, can't drink estus after casting a spell for no reason, terrible collision in places
you can understand these things and work around them, doesn't make them good
>shitty upgrade system with too many different resources and bad balance
chaos is just objectively better than fire, divine/occult and magic/enchanted aren't distinct enough, raw is a noob trap, crystal only serves cheaters and save scumming PVP tryhards
>activating a bonfire doesn't set it as your checkpoint until you rest at it
discourages actually progressing if an invader is in the world and pointlessly interrupts co-op, also just unintuitive because why have the activation animation if it has no actual effect?

those are the worst offenders i think, i would also not mind seeing weapon movesets touched up but there's an argument to be made that big weapons have deliberately limited movesets as compensation for their huge damage
i certainly wouldn't want it to get the ds3 treatment and have proper movesets but sanitized damage so big weapons aren't even worth it

>>713966632 (OP)
Maybe because there is not a single good remake in existence. I don't care about your indian taste.

>>713969707
Plenty of gameplay improvements made in later Souls games like how lock on functions, omni direction rolling, improved backstabs for example. The combat speed could also be increased as what was done with Bloodborne. Doesn't have to be exactly like BB since shields are a thing but it still would not hurt if it was sped up a bit for a remake.

>>713971396
Well the chalice dungeons weren't all that special. Seemed like just extra content padding really. The gem upgrade system also made the combat extremely inconsistent for multiplayer. Probably fine in the context of single player and co-op but turns pvp or invading into some seriously random RNG. You never know what exactly you are dealing with. Its too built into the game though so eliminating this means a huge change in a core mechanic.

Sony is dumb though for not remastering it. Even a very simple upscale resolution and 60fps would easily sell at least a few million.

>>713973103
Yeah the upgrade system is definitely quite fucked. They could have just combined these things and had 3 rather than having 6 different upgrade paths. Chaos/fire could scale with humanity, divine/occult faith and magic/enchant int obviously. Raw could be outright thrown out I guess. As for crystal its a cool idea, the company needs to just deal with the cheaters so its not an issue.

>>713966632 (OP)
we already got Elden Ring which is objectively better than this

>>713966632 (OP)
It might as well be remade. It's already been sullied by that demaster, so no one's playing the original version anymore anyway.

>>713966632 (OP)
If it fixed the shitty front and lag stabs I’d be for it

>>713966970
To shit on DS and DeS by being the best game of the 3

>>713966834
Many will disagree but I really liked the SOTC remake

>>713974615
Crystal could work for regular players if they unified the upgrade resources. Nobody on a casual PVE run is going to blow one of three guaranteed slabs for a slightly stronger weapon that will inevitably break, or spend hours farming Darkwraiths to get another slab to make more. If you had six guaranteed slabs instead of three normal and one of white, blue, and red that most builds have no use for, then it wouldn't be such an unreasonable expense. The builds that do want the special slabs would benefit from that too.

>>713968835
>Gah damn nigga, ya really did ring 'em bells of awakening 'n shit?

>>713966632 (OP)
I'm all for it if it means fixing the bosses because past Sens EVERY boss is bad. Every single boss. Yes, O&S is bad.

>>713973103
>i certainly wouldn't want it to get the ds3 treatment and have proper movesets but sanitized damage so big weapons aren't even worth it
What? The big bonks are the most fun weapons in DS3 as they're the only ones with poise. Vordt's Great Hammer is available a couple hours in and completely trivializes PvE content all the way to Gael. I'll give you that UGS's are straight up inferior to GS's though.

>>713975651
>>713974615
The upgrade system is giga easy to fix, just let the player re-infuse like in DS2 onwards. Add a respec as well.
>want to try another SL120 PvP build
>have to re-run the whole game again

>>713975896
I like O&S but those other bosses need work for sure. They’re the ones hyped up in the intro and end up as the least interesting fights in the game

>>713966834
>Metroid Zero Mission
>Pokemon FRLG/HGSS
>YS Chronicles
It happens occasionally

>>713966970
Only 3 is the asset farm.
>I don't even know why 2 exists
Elden Ring is a remake of Dark Souls 2, that's why they went back to Namco and it's also why Elden Ring shares so many elements in common with DaS2 (Giant servitor race with holes in them for instance).
The only reason it's not more obvious is because they had to do a lot of fucking around just to release DaS2 as a functional game after they got screwed over at various points.

>>713979239
>Elden Ring is a remake of Dark Souls 2 that's why they went back to Namco and it's also why Elden Ring shares so many elements in common with DaS2 (Giant servitor race with holes in them for instance).
Nice headcanon, retard. The betrayed and defeated Fire Giant harbouring the heretical flame is a Dark Souls 3 trope, but I get that 2nigs are desperate for any acknowledgment they can get... like trannies, weird how similar the two groups are, I wonder what lore ties them together

My dream remake is use the exact same havoc engine but flesh out the areas post O&S. Maybe add new interconnected areas like ash lake to the catacombs.
What would 100% happen instead is the game is now 10x faster and bosses like the taurus demon would be doing delayed flips on that tiny ass bridge. Capra demon would probably be replaced for some "zanzibart....forgive me" humanoid sword fight and other unnecessary changes.
In other words: I DO NOT TRUST MODERN FROMSOFT TO MAKE ANY GOOD GAMES LET ALONE REMAKE THEIR MASTERPIECE

>Dark Souls 1 soul:
World is nicely connected I guess
Dark Anor Londo
>Dark Souls 2 soul:
Slightly different character stance on low health
Your hollow form gets visually worse when you die before dehollowing
Your torch goes out when you roll while standing in water
Weapon idle stances reworked to make more sense
Candle fires swoosh around a little when you do an attack next to them
Wet and dry footprints looking different
Wooden doors being destructible
Headshots against helmets sound different than headshots against unprotected heads
Powerstance with different weapon types for maximal mixup fun, FUCK balance in a game like this, an be fixed later if at all, get good if it bothers you
>Dark Souls 3 soul:
Old hag knows who you are if you talk to her in the past first
Bottom text
>Elden Ring soul:
*crickets*

>>713966632 (OP)
Only interested if Miyazaki is the director of the project.

>>713966632 (OP)
No more Demakes for the love of god

>>713981036
Ash Lake.
But yeah 2 had a lot of soulish elements that they could just have copypasted butthey refused to for no reason.

>>713969707
equipment durability

>>713966632 (OP)
No need to
>>713981036
Dark Souls 2 is inherently soulless design-by-committee Namco crap created to strip the golden goose from Miyazaki
It's a game with negative soul and attention to details. It's the FFXV of Souls games

>>713982008
I literally just posted a list of attention to detail that only 2 has retard

>>713982008
You don't even need to go from one location to another for some weather fuck-ups.
The rain in Drainlick Castle is broken in multiple ways and in some areas it doesn't render, making it look like your character has a horrible case of dandruff and lice.

>>713982240
All you posted was a blob of assets created because 2 was the Souls game stuck with the longest development time and where Namco dumped the most marketing budget in the hope of making it big.
They are not attention to detail, they are feature bloat from schizophrenic unfocused game direction.
Nobody cares if the sound effect of headshot changes when the sound design is this fucking absymal compared to PREVIOUS games.
Nobody cares that they recorded some faggot breathe hard, people care that the motion capture animations are fucking dogwater.
Dark Souls 2 has negative soul

>>713982742
Everyone cares about true powerstance don't even try to deny you want it
Miyazaki can't pull it off, he can't get it up

>>713983829
Powerstance is a dogshit mechanic that
>Has lower dps and more stamina use than 2 handing any weapon
>Can't be buffed in both hands
>Has only neutral attacks
>Shares ugly animations across multiple weapons
It was a stupid, awful mechanics and paired weapons were a vastly superior concept that wasn't shooting yourself in the foot

>>713985156
>Has lower dps and more stamina use than 2 handing any weapon
Kek you are clueless

>>713986278
>No argument
Figures

>>713986959
You can literally oneshot people with doublesmelter

>>713987112
You can also one-shot people with Affinity

Didn't the remaster change it so that multiplayer works by soul memory like the later games rather than soul level? This is such shit. Why did FROMSOFTWARE hate the invasions and pvp aspects of their games so much? Pretty sure they allow for hosts to summon up to 3 phantoms in this one as well right? Only made ganking that much more cancerous.

>>713985156
>Newfag has never heard of Helixtodon
And yes you can buff both.

>>713987869
No you can't

Because I'm not a faggot that needs remakes of every game to enjoy them

>>713966970
2 was a raw passion project

>>713988246
You never played that fucking game did you
But you wouldn't even need to to think of a simple way to buff both

>trying to do Four Kings with a strength weapon
I'm gonna fucking lose it, I've made a terrible mistake

>>713987690
No, it added weapon level matchmaking kind of like DS3, but extremely lenient so it hardly changes things. You can't Parish twink with maxed weapons anymore but you can still use Chaos+0 against anyone who got the Drake Sword or even a Black Knight Shield they can't use. You're also free to bring Dark Bead and fully upgraded Giant's Armor to Burg players fresh from the Asylum because sorcery catalysts and armor upgrades have no effect on matchmaking at all. Where they did more damage was in changing invasion level ranges from 10% down, infinite up for reds and 50+20% down for blues to the same 10% down, 20+10% up for both, and changing how invader spawnpoints are determined. The latter resulted in some absolutely degenerate spawncamp ganking around launch, hasn't really been an issue since the gankers got bored and moved back to 3 or on to ER. Still hurts the variety of invasions since your spawnpoint informs you of the rough location of the host rather than spawning where you like and having to figure it out for yourself.

>>713988625
Nigger

>>713988246
>Buff left with chime
>Butt right with infinite resins
Boiii I just made the impossible possible

>beat Sif relatively in one try the other day with a bandit knife at lvl 11
>suddenly getting one shot constantly when I try to replicate it today
Nothing hurts more than struggling on a boss that you already bitched out.

No, they should do it in fact

>>713989674
Resins don't scale

>>713966632 (OP)
a fucking ps3 is like 60 bucks on marketplace and a used copy is max 20 the remaster is cheap too
the fuck you need a remake to play the game
JUST PLAY THE GAME

>>713966632 (OP)
it wouldn't be as good

they should remake dark souls 2. hopefully they'll make it good this time.

>>713967474
You have to imagine the feeling of DS1 being your first souls game and souls like game. That plays a big part in how it's rated

>>713968606
There are shortcuts that help you minimize backtracking.

>>713966632 (OP)
It would be made by a corporate entity like Bluepoint devoid of any artistic talent instead of FROMSOFT

>>713975896
Search is so lame as is ceaseless discharge. Quelagg was good though

>>713981036
Ds2 fans are so disingenuous. They seem very close minded and only care about ds2. Ds2 fans ONLY ever praise ds2. Yet a DS1 fan might dare to say DeS was better or a ds3 fan might say they really enjoyed ER. Ds2 fans? They are similar to politically minded redditors who refuse to hear anything about the opposing side

>>713992558
Seath* not search

>>713966632 (OP)
because a remake of ds2 would be better