Thread 713969774

Slide is back. Movement is back. Battlefield is back. We are so back!

>>713969774 (OP)
my back hurts looking at this

how come bc2 is considered the best infantry bf when it has non-existent movement? movementfags, how can you explain this anomaly?

>>713969774 (OP)
>Slide is back
dropped.

It genuinely looks like a PS3 game

>>713969886
Because you can't prone in BC2.

>>713969956
>It genuinely looks like a game from an era when games were good
Is that supposed to be an insult?

>>713970015
lmao zoomer are delusional
PS3 was 99% shovelware

I want to see a game where slidefaggotry is realistic
>realistic slide distance depending on surface, so practically only viable in a polished concrete warehouse
>chance to take 1-5 dmg on rough surfaces
>aim accuracy depends on surface roughness
>stamina capped along with crouching and jumping
it should be a genuinely cool move that's rare and situational to pull off and 99% of the time makes you look like a retard

>>713969957
Pretty much, made it easy to spot snipers and made objective based more fast paced as a result. Nowadays every single shooter uncritically copies Titanfall and it looks stupid.

>>713969774 (OP)
How are these niggers THIS stupid?
I thought the 2042 chimpouts were pretty clear on what people DON'T want in a shartfield title
Just give me BF3#2

I don't get the obsession with movement in these supposedly grounded military games.
We had movement games, arena shooters, and you zoomers didn't play them.
You want this slide into bunnyhop gay adhd shit that doesn't really fit the style of cod or bf and yet you masturbate to that shit.
It's hardly the worst thing ever, but I look at modern cod gameplay and it looks obnoxious.

>>713969956
PS3 couldn't even run the full game of bf3 kek

yall got any more of dem pixels

>>713969774 (OP)
This will be useless unless they increase the TTK. Everyone will just be camping for the entire match.

>>713970650
>Just give me BF3#2
you hated it in 2013

>>713969774 (OP)
>Slide is back.

I don't want MW19 adhd autism

>>713970650
>Just give me BF3#2
nah, fuck you.
no offense, but you only like it due to memories attached to it

3 has by far the worst map designs and introduced the most pace killing mechanic in any military FPS with its supression bullshit

>>713969774 (OP)
Shame on you if you buy EA or Activision slop. Let the industry collapse you fucking ritual buyer.

>>713970951
>3 has by far the worst map designs
...is what I would say if I were an african gorilla nigger

>>713970782
BF4 at launch was shit (typical for BF) with awful base maps. It's still infinitely better than everything we've gotten since, including this.

>>713969886
Nobody but retarded consolefags who had it as their first game thinks babbycompany is good.

>>713971001
>BF3
chokepoint simulator

>>713970782
>>713971008
>BF4
sniper tanks simulators

>>713970782
True, I hated 4 in the initial release but after that I started liking it
The bf4 weapon system is still ass tho, that's why I prefer 3
I still don't like 2042

>still no class-locked weapons
>still fucked "classes" where they combined healing and ammo into one for some fucking retarded reason

>>713971069
Step outside of metro 64 for one game

>>713971001
which bf has worse maps then, little man?

they were so bad that whenever they would pop up in the rotation in bf4, everyone's fun instantly tanked, every time

I don't WANT the slide to be in the game

>>713969774 (OP)
>2025
>Still copying CoD
DICE have been mindbroken since 2010 and counting

>>713971130
Grand Bazaar is another chokepoint simulator

>>713970951
>but you only like it due to memories attached to it
Pretty much this. I replayed BF3 last year and holy crap most of the maps were awful. You either had chokepoint grenade spams or maps way too big and flat.

BFV is my favourite Battlefield and I never felt like sliding was useful

>>713971037
>busted to a fun degree
>no prone, incentivising active play
>high ttk encourages, yet again, more active play
>meaningful destruction mechanics
>decent maps
>distinct classes with their own personalities, adding nice flavour

>>713971251
Everyone spams slide in BF5 because there's literally no reason not to. Sliding is fine as a concept if it MASSIVELY kills your momentum at the end of the slide, but it's a problem when it doesn't. Sliding into cover is a good idea. Everyone sliding around the maps nonstop like they have magic knee rollerskates is retarded.

>>713971223
finally, an honest person with a brain.
you're exactly right, not only are the maps bad by default, they really are so bipolar too

>>713971163
>which bf has worse maps then, little man?
4, 2042, 1 because they all had their maps created based on concept art, rather than creating layout first. Havent played V, so cant say anything
>>713971195
not with 32 players. Same with Seine.
All B2K and Aftermath maps aren't chokepoints by any definition, even with 64 players
>>713971223
Is Karkand big and flat? Or Azadi Palace? Or is Epicenter is a grenade spam?

Niggers itt literally dont know shit they are talking about

>>713971186
>copying CoD
CoD got it from BFV
which got it from halo 5 tho

>>713969774 (OP)
looks terrible, dead in less than a year. sage

>>713971439
Apex had directional slides first

>>713971602
apex slides were gutted tf2 slidehops

>>713969774 (OP)
I'm tired of this """movement shooter""" trend.

>>713969774 (OP)
buy an ad

>>713969886
i think bc2 being good is largely based on the fact that only half the maps were shit as opposed to approaching 100% in subsequent games. though there were some other things too, like the designers involved had the balls to say stuff like "no jets because they suck for the game" to everyone's dismay. but they were right. letting vehicle whores run the series again was a grave mistake. bc2 was the perfect implementation of combined arms

Is Battlefield 6 going to get rid of the DEI fortnite heroes or operatives whatever they called them?

If those are still in I'm not going to buy it.

>>713970015
Anon he said PS3 not PS2.

If there will be women """operators""" in this game, they can shove it.

>>713971736
no, they are still in

>>713969774 (OP)
Why are FPS devs so obsessed with sliding now?

>>713971223
Yeah, BF3's maps are almost all dogshit. The default maps are all fucking awful because they're cramped shit limited by PS3/360. They're literally all a shitty straight line hallway (Tehran, Metro, Damavand) or 5 flags badly squashed together. The B2K maps were mixed, Karkand is good, Sharqi is okay, but Oman and Wake are shit (they were both already really bad even in BF2, but become even worse with infinite draw distance). Close Quarters are shit for obvious reasons. Armored Kill was really fucking bad and nobody played it after a week because the AC130 made it unplayable. Aftermath was actually mostly good (except Epicentre which was bad). End Game I barely even remember because the game was basically dead at that point when people were waiting for BF4.

>more ww1
>cold war setting
>future setting but done right with exo skeletons, hover tanks, flying carriers, mechs, etc.
>hardline 2 but without the bf title
>dieselpunk ww1

all these flavors and they went with modern day again

>>713971890
>now

>>713971736
Bad news.

>>713971890
Quick cover. I'd argue it's more useful in Battlefield than COD since you're walking through a big map only to get shot by a camper holding one angle throughout the entire game. If you're quick, you could escape his line of sight and reposition.

Call me when they bring back REAL movement

>lean spam
>slide spam
>ADHD weapon swapping
I will not play your game.

>>713970351
Sliding should be so situational that it would only be viable to use it to get into cover and pretty much nothing else

>>713972006
back in your cage arenabro you get 1 game studio a year sacrificed for your non existent fanbase and thats it

>>713972006
game graphics don't need to be better than this

>EA DICE presents: Battlefield 4/3 2
More near futureslop. Should have gone with Korean War like I suggested. I don't want to play Battlefield 4 again.

>>713971970
>>713971803
I fucking knew nu-Dice couldn't help themselves but shove their tumblr/twitter/bluesky OCs into this game as well.

Not buying then.

>>713969774 (OP)
Wow, more spastic zoomer adhd gameplay where gamers think this is hardcore and they will be pro at games. How boring. Why don't you try reading a book?

>>713971913
absolute fucking dogshit take
>straight line hallway (Tehran, Metro, Damavand)
Maps made for rush. By your logic bc2 maps are shit too
>Sharqi is okay
great*
>but Oman
great*
> Armored Kill was really fucking bad and nobody played it after a week because the AC130 made it unplayable.
which got nerfed, it's only unplayable in rush, because the maps werent made for it in the first place
>except Epicentre
shit take, possibly the best map in dlc, offering all engagement distances + verticality + tons flank enemies

>autism slide
>still no answer to air faggots going 60/0
>still no real class system
>still using a hero system

just give me titanfall 3 or battlefront without heroes

>>713971693
>coom the rabbit
opinion discarded

>>713969774 (OP)
God fucking damn it.
Can I have a single win?
Can you stop ruining the games I already love with updates and then ruining the games I have to look forward to as well?
Would it fucking kill you to let me have ONE game?

>>713969774 (OP)
Looks like call of duty.

>>713972220
>>still no answer to air faggots going 60/0
the reason for that is that if they fail to go 60/0 they scream and cry on the balance forums until they do

i remember i would read the forums back when they nerfed c4's anti tank ability, and there were several people just posting in every thread going on about how c4 is op. all those guys had like 27.0 lifetime KDs and maybe 10% of their playtime spent outside a vehicle. even if dice hadnt already lost all its talent, their games are doomed to be vehicle whore shooting galleries simply because the dumb fuck balance guys bend the knee to these cretins

went 50-0 on attack jet just yesterday.... feels so good jdaming infantry

>>713972220
>>still using a hero system
if they wanna sell skins so badly why not just sell class skins
no one and I mean absolutely NO ONE wants to play as the disabled nigger wheelchair engie

>>713972575
A lot of people are playing as her in 2042

>>713970675
This, the ps3 literally had half the players per map than pc, and the textures were utter shit as usual since it had a quarter of the vram than a regular gpu at the time.

>>713972420
Your post made me seethe, I cannot stand the state of vehicles in recent Battlefields.
Most vehicles would require actual skill if they just removed the third person camera, I probably spent the most time playing hardcore in BF3, in that game vehicles felt fairly balanced outside of people who camped well outside of range near some cover because they couldn't automatically see you running up behind them or see you on their minimap.
It takes at least 4 people working together in order to take down a good vehicle player in recent games, especially a good pilot, it's so abysmal when the average player is a braindead retard that just holds W.

>>713972552
>went 50-0 on attack jet just yesterday
You deserve everything bad that has or will happen to you in this life.

>>713969774 (OP)
this looks exactly like that F2P delta force game

>>713973003
you can always learn to git gud and fly stealth jet

>>713972869
they really just couldnt restrain themselves with the vehicle addons. like you could argue that baseline vehicles were strong but manageable, but then you had tanks with thermals that could spot you while proned in shrubbery, tanks that would sit on a hill and snipe you half a map away with scopes, air vehicles that would slightly dip below their usual shooting gallery elevation and completely make themselves immune to the dedicated AA weapon with below radar, etc.

vehicles would just unlock new ways to torment in bf4 lol eventually i just gave up on trying to play any maps with vehicles

>>713973278
I will never stoop to your level, you lack honor.

>>713973278
it doesnt take skill to sit in the spawn screen for 20 minutes waiting for the previous jet autist to get tired of shooting fish in the barrel so you can have a turn at it

>>713971915
>dieselpunk
>future
But that would require creativity and innovation.

>>713972217
> By your logic bc2 maps are shit too
Yes BC2 maps are even worse. Didn't read past here since you obviously don't know shit.

>>713973719
Your shit taste award, sir. Take it.

>>713971375
This. Just nerf sliding by having a forced vertical stand up animation at the end of it.

>>713971915
>more ww1
How about proper WW1 first? But that would be too slowpaced for the average battlefield zoomer.

>>713972575
>if they wanna sell skins so badly why not just sell class skins
They are most likely doing that. There aren't heroes like 2042 but there are named operators you can choose for your medic or assault etc.

>>713971915
>Dieselpunk
Reddit’s the other way

>>713972006
>Boomertards shit on zoomers with spastic mouse movements while playing dogshit like this

>>713972006
HFK

>>713969774 (OP)
>Slide is back
dios mio, no

what do zoomers mean by "movement"? genuinely asking I think I'm getting too old, do they mean strafejumping like in cod2/cod4 or kreedz like in cs 1.6? I'm at a loss here

>>713977967
Jumpshotting, sliding, bunny hopping, strafing, crouch spamming. Basically any kind of movement that gives player advantage in gunfights.

I swear the people who are "hyped" for new Battlefields and try so hard to relive what they had with BF2, BC, 2142 etc. are just the saddest people on the planet.

It's over, it's been over for well over a decade. EA is nothing but a predatory piece of shit corporation and will do the barest of minimums to give you the most watered down shit you can imagine. You're high off of nostalgia and you're unhealthily obsessed. Move on. Either play the older games that EA no longer supports, or pick a new target of obsession.

>>713978987
and how is that different from normal gameplay? I don't get why newfags have to compartmentalize every miniscule aspect of a game swear to God I had some zoomer join a fastcup match on 1.6 the other day and they/them spent the game trying and failing miserable to bhop, couldn't play for shit and when flamed he said he's a "movement player" what the fuck lmao

>>713979621
Because sometimes you want to play aggressively. Movement makes you harder to hit or easier to reposition.

yes battlefield being more like cod is exactly what i wanted!

>>713981192
You boomers were saying this since BF3

>>713969774 (OP)
>we want the CoD audience

>>713980116
nigger what I mean is that if you play the game and you're good you will know how to move without needing to brand yourself as a "movement player" or whatever the fuck

No ZouZou no buy.

>>713982201
dunno whats a boomer wojak retard
and bf3 was also shit

entire thread filled with below 1 kd and 0.5 kpm retards crying about movement, wow

>>713971781
>He doesn't want to be revived by qts like this in his game

i'm playing easy red 2
feels like bf 1942 if it was made today, good stuff

>>713984669
I have 1.5 k/d (in reality closer to 2 but i sucked at first) in BF4 and zouzou was retarded. Literally mutually assured destruction, because if you don't use it you're at a significant disadvantage.
Same with dolphin diving.

>>713971001
based

>adhd movement
assaultfag problem. i WILL spend 100 hours shooting down helicopters with rockets or target painter. antivehicle is the most fun playstyle

>>713969774 (OP)
I dislike advanced movement like this and would prefer the standard walking, running, crouching, and proning. I don't know if its because I like the older shooters more or what but I'm just not a fan of crouch sliding.

The most advanced movement I'm willing to accept is the crouch running from BFV. But they'd have to remove dolphin diving or hell remove proning alltogether

dolphin diving is in the game?

>>713989247
You can dolphin dive, roll from a fall, slide and contextually lean from what I saw. Basically BFV movement.

2042 is literally unplayable because there are no (NO (ZERO (0) ) ) players to fill lobbies
I don't know how anyone can have any hope for the next turd to come out of DICE when their competency crisis is so obviously terminal

>>713971693
It's a concession to console shitters for the crossplay era, otherwise they would see something like BF4 air strafing and cry about it being "a glitch" or "not intended" forever because it doesn't have a single button press activation

>>713990209
This. "Twitchy movement" is just spamming fast burst movement things like sliding and dropshoting. Its not about overall speed, but about fast changes and sporadic movement.
And why are they bad? Because they are the only thing that beats the aim assist. An older shooter with modern day aim assist doesn't work because its so strong shoot outs are decided by who started shooting first. Spamming this shit is the only way players can try to get out of the other players aim assist. Its the only defensive metric beyond seeing the other player first.

>>713990729
>An older shooter with modern day aim assist doesn't work because its so strong shoot outs are decided by who started shooting first
So lower the aim assist instead of designing your game around slide canceling and dropshotting retard

>>713971915
>>713973704
plus it was pretty much already done by Marauders

Battlefield died after 2142 going to consoles killed the games turning it into cod. The least EA could do is release source code from 1942>2142.

>>713969774 (OP)
Looks like shit
They need to stop with all this bullshit and just re-release bc2

>>713992914
this is a fascinating post, please explain your position in more detail

>>713969956
PS3 games look better than PS5 games

>>713990209
air strafing is busted though. This isn't CSS and you're not phoon, I don't wanna loose fights because my enemy bhops around my shots, it's the same issue with sliding and slide cancels

>>713969774 (OP)
I think battlefield needs to go back to slow movement and limited sprint and slow the game down in general instead of trying to be a fast paced arena shooter

>>713994452
But clearly all modern games have some sort of advanced movement anon and those games are selling bajillion trillions, surely you wouldn't want a small indie company to go bankrupt, now would you?

>>713994720
They aren't, look at how poorly COD is doing on steam despite bundling 4 games under the same executable

>>713994798
>steam
most sales are for the nogamestation 5 and the Xbawx
on PC, it's mainly sold on battle.net

>>713994967
not to mention, Xbawks goypass skewing the sale figures

just make BF3 again, why is that so hard?

>>713994387
carrying momentum through a jump is incredibly basic tech for mp shooters and has been for about 30 years now, you have to learn it at some point

>>713970351
sliding is actually the best on soft surfaces you can actually faceplant on without breaking your nose like grass and dirt because that way you can actually mentally commit to it

>>713971375
I never got why people understood sliding in game to be a movement that continues momentum when irl sliding is a movement that stops momentum so you don't overrun past a particular piece of cover

>>713995648
with the magnificent hitreg of BF4 as soon as you jump and mildly strafe, you're practically invincible. Again, this isn't quake or a fast paced shooter

>>713970351
Let's modify that a little bit.
Sliding should only be done in dirt.
If you attempt to slide on a rough surface, you simply gain no distance and effectively crouch.
You can't spam slide rapidly like some codshit

>>713996091
okay? that's a technical issue with hitreg, that's not a reason to gut the game when even modern counter-strike, the most popular positioning-only game on the market, still lets you air strafe

>>713995591
See this thread, people don't like good map design

>>713969774 (OP)
I HATE SLIDING ANTI CHRIST

>>713972006
Unironically worse than fast paced zoomerslop.

>>713969774 (OP)
>>713971186
I don't understand the point in those dodge slides, everyone with a decent aim's gonna get you anyway
Proper strafing is what makes the movement skill based but of course that doesn't work well on gamepad
It's just there to give retards the illusion of expanding the skill gap

>>713969774 (OP)
I do not want this.

>>713971037
You're a retarded newfag. Bad Company 2 was massively popular on PC as well, with most of /v/ playing on Steam.

Bad Company 2 is widely regarded as the best because it got rid of the fucking unnecessary fluff, and AIDS shit everybody agrees has been a mediocre to awful inclusion since release -- like jets/planes. 32 players on highly condensed maps meant combat was never-ending, you never had those boring 5-minute stints of nothing happening where you might as well have been playing some shit Battle Royale only to get sniped by some random fuck on a hill.

>>713969774 (OP)
I've been legitimately addicted to Battlefield from BF2 onwards, the stereotypical jetwhoring shitbucketeer, and I'll never touch an EA/DICE game ever again. I am not afraid of getting addicted again, mind you I've quit, because EA/DICE ruined the franchise and will never recover it.

>>713992320
They want to attract Apex, Warzone, Halo, Fortnite etc. players in this game. If they make the movement too slow they won't play it. All those games has advanced movement tech.

>>713990187
>ZERO
i mean i hate 2042 with every cell in my body, but why lie on the interwebz ? and this is just steam numbers, gamepass and origin excluded

>>713969774 (OP)
I can't wait to play this for a month becuase it'll be the only populated large scale FPS game only for it to be shit and everyone realises it after a month.

>>714001562
2042 is only BF with crossplay too. I can find matches in the middle of the night during a weekday in 2042 but can't find any matches for BFV or BF4.

>>713969774 (OP)
>slide cancel
>in battlefield

>>714002594
>Anon thinks this is slide cancelling

bf2 is fucking shit