I just want a single player game to give me the feeling of a huge MMO with a giant world with tons of shit to see and do, without any of the MMO downsides

Kingdoms of amolor

>>713982514 (OP)
Baldur's Gate 3 is good for that. You even get a party, which lets you simulate playing with other people in an MMO. I liked BG3 a lot, as someone who played WoW in my youth.

>>713982514 (OP)
Genshin Impact, unironically.

WoW vanilla was basically that
It's open world shits on any single player openworld rpg

>>713982514 (OP)
Xenoblade chronicles X

>>713982789
If OP doesn't want any of the MMO downsides then I would assume he also doesn't want any of the gachashit downsides which are exponentially worse

>>713982514 (OP)
gothic, elder scrolls, witcher games..uhh that's about it. And Risen 1 i guess

>>713982717
>huge MMO with a giant world
>Baldur's Gate 3 is good for that.
Definitely not, every point of interest is close to each other.

>>713982909
You dont need to whale for characters to have fun. Its exactly what he wants.

>>713982930
>elder scrolls
>witcher games

0 sense of wonder since their open world suck and the quests are on a GPS

>>713982789
Fucking this. Game as a single player open world game is a fucking awesome.
>inb4 Gacha shit
You don't need to roll for a character even once, and still beat and complete whole game, which was done on youtube hundreds of times.

Just play the main story and have a fuckton of fun. Game has some really good epic scenes, and fights.
>>713982909
What fucking downsides? Stop spamming buzzowrds about a game you never played.

>>713982514 (OP)
The starting zones are so kino. Wow basically peaks immediately and just gets worse.

Breath of the wild.

>>713982514 (OP)
just play one of those failed mmos that got pivoted to being singleplayer rpgs during development.
afaik there's amalur, dragon age inquisition, wayfinder, and I'm sure there are others I don't know either.
all of them mediocre wastes of time of course.

>>713983295
ok, well idk better ones

>>713982514 (OP)
WoW singplayer project.

>>713982984
If someone wants a massive world, they could play Kingdom Come 2. That one is really big, and it feels even bigger if you don't ride a horse.

>>713982514 (OP)
Morrowind

>>713982789
I started playing this last night and I agree. The world is very engaging, cozy, relaxing and whimsical to explore. If you like anime fantasy and can deal with a few characyers being kawaii cringe it's fun.

>>713984423
Also there's a hot mommy witch that calls you cutie and flirts with you and you get her in your party almost immediately.

>>713982514 (OP)
the only way you can get this is if the world had two factions, and you could start in a bunch of different starting locations
every game people listed in this thread has you start in the same place every time and almost always has a defined protagonist too
there's really no single-player game like WoW, outside of maybe fuckin Minecraft which is procedural so nowhere near the same

fuck off spambot

>>713984116
There's few things more autistic than playing an MMORPG single player
to make a >food analogy, playing an mmo single player is like buying a $30 burger and then only eating the top half of the bun

>>713986162
>doesn't know what different filenames means
you're the idiot here

>>713986248
You don't get what op is refering to.
I understand him because i wanted this too. A game like WOW, big open world full of fun things to find, explore, quests to do, items to grind, but WITHOUT a fucking need to get 25 people to fight the raid boss, don't need to do dungeons with retards, without weekly locks (like you do Raid once, and you are locked from getting a loot for a week). A game where you don't have to minmax weeklies to not miss out on loot etc.

>>713986872
So, basically, any openworld RPG?

You could try the 'fake MMO' games like .Hack maybe?

>>713982597
This game didn't deserve the fate it got. It was so good!

>>713982597
FPBS, as usual.

It's a shit game, but that's just because it perfectly captures the feeling of playing an MMO.

>>713982903
Xenoblade Chronicles X is the only game that has given me that feeling

>>713987561
Not really, because openworld rpgs are often made to be played linearly. In MMO style games, the main quest is a sidequest. You don't give a fuck about it.
It's hard to describe it because the difference is very nuanced. You would have to play WOW for couple years to understand. It's like perfect RPG but shackled down by MMO mechanics.
If someone would just put more quality quests, more loot, legendaries but hard to obtain like Thunderfury, then it would be really perfect RPG. And probably that's what OP seeks.
That's why i double the Genshin recomendation. When i played it i felt like it's just like MMO but without MMO aspects.

>>713982514 (OP)
OpenMW + Tamriel rebuilt

>first it was the archduke
>now it's kabrutus
mainstream is finally realizing

>>713988686
>WOW
>It's like perfect RPG but shackled down by MMO mechanics
what the fuck are you talking about
Wow is shit RPG

>>713982514 (OP)
I have high hopes for Wayward Realms, devs have been saying all the right things, and I like what they've presented stylistically at least.

>>713988686
Then Morrowind with Tamriel Rebuilt fits this well.

>>713982514 (OP)
Erenshor is a fake MMO.

>>713982514 (OP)
Kingdoms of Amalur, since it started development as MMO but was then turned into a single player game.

>>713983427
This is probably by design, you want the good stuff to be shoved at the beginning in order to hook the players.

>>713982717
Baldurs Gate is actually really small, and the game and encounters are very limited. It feels big the first time you play it, but subsequent playthroughs reveal how small it actually is.

Some of you niggas never played an MMO and it shows

>>713986162
newfag

>>713982835
it really is genius you can go anywhere and do anything but level barriers will probably block you off. so you are more inclined to stay in the general are you can actually kill stuff in. like in fallout new vegas you can go north, but its heavily implied you shouldnt cause the cazadores/deathclaws will kill you

>>713987569
Erenshor is pretty good, it's more based on Everquest but it has modding and the dev recently added a 'server admin' panel so you can set a lot of values like HP, mob damage, XP gain, etc. to whatever you want.

>>713987561
most open world RPGs don't have the same gameplay as a MMO or allow you to raid dungeons with 24 companion NPCs. it's basically for people who like the gameplay and pace/grinding of MMOs but don't want to be reliant on other people for whatever reason. i like it because as i've gotten older i don't always have 8-12 uninterrupted hours to grind or raid or whatever so it's nice to not inconvenience 4/24 other people because i needed to go grab a snack or take a shit or i saw an interesting article and want to go down a rabbit hole for 15 minutes.

>>713982514 (OP)
wait for crimson desert

>>713987569
I would love a game that purported to be an archived emulated copy of a defunct MMO that slowly got spookier like .hack, mixed with heavy doses of that 'beta/cut content' vibe that something like B3313 or the Zelda stuff from the gigaleak has

>>713982514 (OP)
modded elder scrolls or modded vanilla wow private server

>>713997308
>the same gameplay as a MMO or allow you to raid dungeons with 24 companion NPCs
this is literally what WoW SPP is

>>713982597
>>713982717
>>713982903
>>713982930
>>713983542
Not even close

>>714001282

>>714001282
>shitaclysm

Xenoblade 1 and 2 are pure adventurekino

>>714001391
I don't know if you can get screenshots like that from vanilla

>>713989195
it's about the only game I'm looking forward to at this point.
But I've also stopped following news too much and instead focus on older games in my backlog

>>713982789
This 100%. Genshin is the only game that managed to evoke the feeling of pic related for me.

>>714001282
>>714001378
>themeparks
Literal Disneyland

>>713982909
MMO downsides are:
>needing to interact with other people to get better gear
>needing to be a part of a guild in order to do raids
>needing to buy/sell items to other players in order to stay on top of the competition

Essentially, all the bad elements are the parts that force you to play with other human beings. Genshin's co-op mode is entirely optional. It's 100% single player with zero compromises for avoiding the multiplayer component.

>>713999804
yeah but the NPC companion/bot part is pretty janky, i have yet to find a good pack/bot module combo that woks well. it's all in chinese with half working features. my ideal would be leveling/gearing an entire 25-man group by myself with the 'bots' just being the AI controlling my other characters but i haven't found anything satisfactory for that either, questing with more than 1 character involves a lot of relogging for inventory management.

>>713982514 (OP)
Real Life

>>714002115
it was fine 20 years ago when the internet and the kind of people who played these games were mostly white men in first world countries but now you have to deal with third world browns/bugmen, women/fags, etc. you could even see a microcosm of this on the early private server scene when it was majority poor/third worlders.

>>713986443
Filenames don't mean anything when the spammers use 4chan X.

>>714001282

>>714003209
marge

The single player MMO
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2382520/Erenshor/

>>714002115
MMO downsides run much deeper than that
>completely unengaging pinata combat in order to accommodate netcode for 40 players at the same time
>areas, levels, progression, items, drops etc optimized for maximizing player subscription time rather than immersion or a vision
>ridiculously repetitive and unengaging quests lacking any creativity designed around movement/combat limitations of an MMO
>all important character interactions being reduced to "quest giver" or "boss pinata" etc
>so on and so forth

Gachashit is similarly not designed to be a soulful single player vision experience and is rather just an excuse to justify players paying to roll for characters, it feels like a single player MMO already without any of the upsides

Ideally you'd want something with the soulful visionary world and adventure design of classic JRPGs, with the scope and size of an MMO, but movement, combat, and interaction of Dragon's Dogma or BOTW, but since most games struggle with even one of those having all three is basically impossible

>>713982514 (OP)
modded skyrim

>>713982514 (OP)
elden ring

>>714002904
The whole issue nowadays is you need to be walking on eggshells with every single interaction or else you risk being perma-b& for wrongthink.

MMOs were once a bastion of free speech. We live in a post-free speech world, so MMOs cannot exist in any proper capacity anymore. Who wants to be on edge constantly when they're just trying to unwind after an exhausting day at work. MMOs used to offer a relaxing environment where you could shoot the shit with your buddies like you might in a night club or a pub irl. Now it's like being at work with the HR department closely examining everything you say and do.

So, Open-world Gachas essentially remove that concern entirely while keeping all the other parts that MMO addicts love fully intact. Progression feels so fucking good in MMOs and no other genre can compete aside from gacha.

>>714003329
This is just sad...

>>714003580
>tons of shit to see and do

>>714003639
yes

>>714003682
>things to see
>foggy castles and trees
>things to do
>kill shit
Riveting

>>713982789
I had to quit because I lack the discipline to play but not spend money. If you can resist, OP, Genshin is exactly what you're looking for, and it's only getting bigger.

>>713982789
Based

>>714001378
>The island off the coast of red ridge
I don't remember that marsh's map going that far north
>>714002018
Also kill yourself

>>713982514 (OP)
This game is custom made for you
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2382520/Erenshor/

>>713984581
Based hag enjoyer

>>714003606
>The whole issue nowadays is you need to be walking on eggshells with every single interaction or else you risk being perma-b& for wrongthink.
it's not just that but there are also nolifer retards who treat these games like a job so if you aren't using the perfect streamer approved min-max build then YOU'RE THROWING AND I'M GONNA KICK YOU FROM THE GROUP, BAN YOU FROM THE GUILD AND REPORT YOU TO THE GMS!!!!!

>>714004386
it's been mentioned like 8 times already little nigga

>>714004715
I remember towards the end of my time playing WoW, certain guilds directed you to to a website with an application to fill in for joining, shit was hilarious
treating a video game like a job is about as gay as it gets

>>713982514 (OP)
>a single player game to give me the feeling of a huge MMO with a giant world with tons of shit to see and do, without any of the MMO downsides
You literally described Genshin.

>>714004963
i really don't mind that in theory when there are absolutely 100% hardcore minded players who want that experience. that's fine. the issue for me is that whole swaths of normies do the same shit and want to pretend like they're Method clearing out nearly 20 year old content that's so easy children did it back in the day. they're such joyless faggots.

>>713982514 (OP)
>>713982789

Theres a single player WoW ting where they used AI (not so sure) but basically other players are simulated, wlak around, actually level up etc like any player would.

I think it is actually very inspriing for video games in general. Would be amazing in rpgs. you might build bonds or rivalries with these players, etc.

>>713982514 (OP)
>>713982789
>>714005445

>>714005020
This.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC-xdmRLavA
Genshin is popular for a reason. World is 10/10, Music is fuckin 11/10. It's a must play for OP

>>714005020
>>714005445
>>714005653
you shills need to take new pictures

>>714005594
i'm looking forward to the day when modders can implement LLMs into these things so you can have all different characters with different personalities, all the NPCs and shopkeepers you normally just mindlessly walk by you can have conversations with, etc.

it'll all be very rudimentary at first but i can imagine what it'll be like in 20, 30 years.

>>714005891
KINO

>>713982514 (OP)
FF12
Typically nonsensical story you'd find in any MMO, but interesting enough to keep going.
Fun combat mechanics that makes most spells useful.
Optional bosses, basically equivalent to end game raids

>>713983295
>elder scrolls open world sucks
what? maybe in todays standards. name a better open world than oblivion's back in 2006. and morrowind smokes the fuck out of anything released in 2003 hands down

>>714005986
> all the NPCs and shopkeepers you normally just mindlessly walk by you can have conversations wit
this is literally just everquest, but worse. that was like 30 years ago

>>714006182
Bro but we are in 2025 not 2006.

>>714006250
you've either never used GPT or never played Everquest before

>>714005445
>>714005653
>>714005891

Looks nice until you realise there is nothing in there except for random chest puzzles. This isn't like Skyrim where you might find some cool loot or a unique enemy or some interesting questline, or GW2 where meta-events can lead to cool map changes, the way that Genshin seperates vertical progression entirely behind the gacha and artifacts means that the world is largely pointless beyond being a showcase for your anime characters to play around with. There is no real sense of wonder once you realize how painfully limited the game actually is in the variety of enemies and weapons.

>>714006182
No i love ES but i kind of have to agree. ES benefits mostly from Lore + choices on gameplay. The actual environments don't really wow the same way seeing Ironforge or the Frozen Citadel the first time did. It's mostly down to art style desu, more realisitic art makes it harder to actually look otherworldy.

>>714006579
you used a lot of words just to cope

>>714006591
i can see that with how generic Oblivion and Skyrim are but i played Morrowind for the first time a year ago (well i've actually tried to play it before multiple times but this was the first time i actually got really into the game and it all clicked for me) and i kept running into crazy shit that gave me pause because of how unique Morrowind is, even by today's standards.

>>714005986
not sure about that because paradoxically having obiouvlsy AI stuff like that can make the game feel like it has less souls, more fake, and randomly generated so lower quality content, so for a big clean AAA I dont know. but for india AA experimental shit, OK.

now for wandering NPCs with more complex behaviors, perosnality like you sya, the way they do things, the agressiveness, greed, risk taking etc, bonding with other characters, remembering stuff, this is very promising

but to some extent you could do that right now with programming. the problem with AI is that it cannot explain its behavior, its kindoff a mimicking philosophical zombie, theres no actual process with logic etc, it just copies.

>>714006753
how is oblivion generic? the faces ar eunlike any other game, even the visual with flowers trees etc, the topography, colours, is unlike any other game

what is this meme with oblivion being generic? there isnt a single game that looks like oblivion, its one of the least visually generic fantasy open worlds

>>714006753
Morrowind definetly had some insane environments but.... they were rather brown

>>714006939
it's just a generic fantasy forest. it's well done for the time given the scale and everything but it's still generic and really forgettable in this day and age.

>>713982514 (OP)
Play a 100 hour long JRPG then.

>>714007018
i mean yeah its a forest but the lokl itself of the game is very particular, the layout of the terrain, the flowers, the grass, the colours the lightning etc. whats the problem with a forest being a forest anyway.

id rather have a good well executed forest than someone relying on "exotic" "creative" shit like big mushrooms with funny colours which tendfs to limit the quality of the execution or dismiss the fract that it should look nice, or its just cheap shock value

>>714006939
Morrowind is Eastern Plaguelands/Zangarmarsh
Oblivion is Elwynn Forest
Skyrim is Borean Tundra + parts of Dragonblight
I thought about giving Skyrim Howling Fjord + Grizzly Hills but no.... I honestly can't think of anything in Skyrim environment wise as cool as the Alliance boat ride into Howling fjord.

>>714007365
i get that you played oblivion when you were like 6 years old and it blew your mind because it was the first game you ever played but not everyone had the same experience

>>714007276
name 10 besides persona and dragon quest

>>714007276
you need to have a single digit iq to enjoy the turn based combat of jrpgs

>>714001740
Visions of Mana
All the Xenoblade Games

>>714007448
more like you dont have the eye to tell stuff, sucks for u. oblivion has many idfferent places that look different in subtles ways that arnt vulgar enough to trigger your primitive brain. again layout, distribution of types of grass the shadowing etc. oblivion still looks really good and especially unlike anything else the art direction and lightning for characters is unique. as for most bethesda games is rather unequal, you have to wander to see some good spots. its not a constant in your face shower sure. but id be eager to know which other games you rthink look so similar or so much better

but again maybe you just dont have the sense. yet or forever

>>714007473
And you need to have negative IQ to enjoy the combat of MMOs.

>>714006749
Shut up gacha slave, you have no human rights

>>714005445
Looks pretty but I got the same sense of wonder from other games I can own like
Vision of Mana
Sand Land
All Xenoblade games
Mario fucking Odyssey
If I cannot own it, I am not playing it

>>714007789
Anon you might just be autistic

>>714007937
>anti-gacha schizo shows his true colors
:)

>>714008184
no i just got the eye the more you learn to appreciate things, shape colorus its just an eye for beauty and art, its something that you train like anything else, you just have no idea. you learn to appreciate somethings you re not born with it. you dont even know what to look for.

>>714006579
this, exploring is about finding, there's no sense of wonder if you already know what will you get, also once you unlock the highest world level or whatever you don't even unlock new stuff for your characters, game becomes stagnant, part of the reasons I quitted this kusoge long time ago

>>714007871
attack, defend, item fags are embarrassing

>gachaniggers unironically recommending their always online pigfeed

>>714008668
it's not a loot finder game and the quest item bag shows that, with all the memorabilia you collect along your journey

>>714009182
Sorry goyim but you are going to have to play a game one day, and Nintendo is digital-only mobile-only never-offline or your console is permanently-banned from the mandatory updates to install cookieware on your faggot PC

gacha bad
china bad

gacha bad
china bad

>I want a single player game that gives me the feeling of an MMO with a giant world full of tons of shit to see and do
>aka, a cool RPG (or at least RPG-esque) game where I can create a character and explore a massive, beautiful, varied world with lots of things to find and do

>try baldur's gate 3, a crpg-style game with many small interconnected levels
>try genshin impact, where there's a big open world with fucking nothing to do in it

kek. OP the truth is that people who make threads like this have usually played the games that'll capture the feeling you want. But here are my recommendations
>tainted grail, fall of avalon
Recently released and already been patched to shit. Arthurian Legend made spooky, it's a first-person fantasy RPG. Explore the world, buy a house and live there, find cool shit. slightly janky spooky skyrim.

some of the armour sets you can find or craft or earn remind me of 2000s MMO edgelord sets
>dragon age inquisition
A meme at this point but it has a passable story and "fine" action-rpg gameplay. Use mods to remove timers/limitations that block main quest progress in vanilla. You now have an extremely vast, very varied, quite pretty fantasy world to explore with an insane amount of content in a cool setting.
>oblivion remastered
people have such retarded takes on it, but if you didn't play the original scoop this up and have fun. it's a big fantasy world you can immerse yourself in.

>>714010570
After 126 replies it finally came... The most retarded post....

>>714010795
I am assuming you think all 3 games are bad, but that isn't what OP asked. He wanted big open world fantasy games with loads to do.

The best suggestion is in the first post >>713982597, it's single player WOW. After that, he'll have to wander off the track a bit. All 3 are closer than fucking BG3 and Genshin Impact, kekked

>>713984130
I hope you are joking
the playable world in kcd2 is frustratingly small

>>713982789
im praying that when genshin goes eos that they release some kind of single player offline version. i know it wont happen but the map is just too fucking kino to go to waste

>>714012884
those aren't the canonical sizes of land masses

>>714009182
Why not just pirate it and play it offline on your gaming rig like everyone else in this thread? The game is amazing as fuck. You only pretend to hate it because it suits your agenda.

And while you're at it, play Wuthering Waves (Genshin's direct competitor) and the upcoming Azur Promila, Ananta, and NTE too. All of these games do what OP is asking for better than ANYTHING else on the market. This is coming from a massive fan of Xenoblade X, btw.

>>713982514 (OP)
When I was a kid I always played WoW but I never did any raids or stuff. Just leveling characters and exploring the world. It was kino

>>714001282
>>714001378
is there anything like this for the vanilla continents? would be cool to see an overhead prior to when it was all redesigned for flying.

>>714012884
the way stonetalon mountains/mulgore/desolace are laid out fucks with my head
I dont remember it being laid out like that at all

>>714001282
>>714001378
you cant actually do this in-game. this is map viewer bullshit.

>>714014072
based, raiding is gay

Project Epoch

>>714014072
I only raided a handful of times to see the content.
I greatly preferred leveling new characters on new realms to meet new naughty femanons.
Shit was GLORIOUS

>>714014108
They weren't fully connected back then

>>714014678
they were all men

>>714017974
were. now they're not.

>>714006579
>this isn't like Skyrim where you might find steel dagger of drain fatigue or a draugr overlord or a locked door that only opens after a questline
ftfy

>>714001282
>>714001378
how can you do this in a vanilla/tbc/wotlk private server? I can't set the view distance to 100% of the continent

I miss the AV games that went on for multiple days. Also the memorable pvp encounters and duels that made fun stories, like the guy who tried to avoid getting last hit by jumping into a volcano but i followed and swam in the lava for the last hit, swam to shore to wait for him to rez so i could kill him again..

>>714018954
I think it's not inside the game

>>713982514 (OP)
I only got to the endgame or Lineage 2 and Runescape, I think I maybe made it to early 40's on everquest. I wish there was a way to play other MMOs with bots so I could see what endgame dungeons and raids are like in those games

>>713982514 (OP)
It’s not exactly what you’re looking for but give Valheim a try.

>>714015243
They were, it just had a lot of gaps and flat areas that were obviously never meant to be seen

>>714017974
No. I got to meet a bunch of them and lost my virginity to one of them

>/v/tards are now nostalgic for wowslop

>>713983045
>You dont need to whale for characters to have fun
Getting new characters is a pretty big part of the fun.

>>713982514 (OP)
>I just want a single player game to give me the feeling of a huge MMO with a giant world
just play any of the dead mmos...LMAO