ENOUGH TIME HAS PASSED
WHAT'S THE /V/ERDICT

>Oh my stars is that the Gaping Dragon from Dark Souls 1? I'm having a nostalgic seizure.

it's fun

>>714014356 (OP)
Even though I completed it 100% of achievements and skins 2 weeks after launch, I'm still playing 1-3 games daily which I never do for other games. It's weirdly fun, and I hate elden ring for reference.

fun when my team listens to me, unfun when my team thinks they're better planners than me
will ejaculate blood if the dlc character is a dryleaf arts guy

>rollslop
Meh

filtered so many retards, just use the erg password and you get auto wins

>>714014356 (OP)
10/10

>>714014356 (OP)
it's fun but i missed crackhead adel

>>714015657
Wait being that guy that just follows is actually a good thing?

>>714015675
i don't need to get carried by incels

>>714015657
i want a dragon communion user, imagine becoming a mini bayle as your ultimate

>>714014814
I appreciate this so much

>>714015602
>and I hate elden ring for reference.
your opinion is invalid tastelet faggot

>>714014356 (OP)
It's fun but needs more content

>>714015860
way easier to plan routes when people just follow imo imo
guess if they're indecisive it might suck?

>>714016462
kino

>Defeat boss
>10000 Runes
>Dragon Communion Incantations apply Anti-Dragon effect to weapon

>>714015990
that'd be neat
i imagine the next couple of dlc guys are gonna be related to at least one of the new weapon types from da dlc tho

>>714016462
>here's the BLOCK character
>first 0.2 seconds of the video is a shield break from like 2 swings
ask me how I know this pickle situation wouldn't even happen if everyone had just roll slopped through attacks.

slopslop

>>714017261
Whoever is in that webm isn't the Guardian's super-block. His guard ability isn't really any better than anyone else's unless he uses it. Aside from having a bit more stamina and starting with a decent shield.
It's the super-block stance that actually makes his blocking good.

>>714016912
bear communion or riot

>>714018190
he is using it outside of the two first hits

>>714014356 (OP)
I like killing things with friends

>>714020532
killing is wrong

It's fun but needs more content/randomness and some buffs to the weaker characters.

>>714014356 (OP)
I DIDN'T PLAY IT BECAUSE THE ADVERTISERS ON HERE MADE IT LOOK LIKE SHIT

>>714014356 (OP)
Is it even worth playing? My favourite thing about souls game was the exploration aspect, the level and world design and slowly becoming stronger the more you venture the world and overcoming tough obstacles

>>714014356 (OP)
Very fun, much better than base elden ring. Basically monster hunter without all the grindy bullshit

They need to add a hard mode with the bosses in the last half of the game and the SotE content.

>>714021173
for you, no
some lore and worldbuilding is neat but not worth da forty bucks

>>714021278
>Basically monster hunter
Don't even compare monhun with its fantastic combat system to this sloppa

>>714014356 (OP)
Its oddly fun, but its a very sloppy, very flawed game when it shouldn't be. Also its very short. But again, its kind of addictive.

>>714022216
Grapple hook shit in World and Rise is worse than Nightreign's combat system
If you're talking Tri, hmmm still nah

>>714015657
Kinda hoping for a warrior-jar character, or maybe a dragon stone user, or some pyromancy guy

>>714014356 (OP)
Monster Hunter but fun, without annoying characters and forced storyfaggotry, and with great lore and story.
All it needs is more enemies

>>714022310
>Grapple hook shit in World and Rise is worse than Nightreign's combat system
You're talking about a game that literally has a castrated grapple hook on one of the characters, slopper

>>714022216
kek

>>714022349
alchemist that can make jars and perfume would be cool as hell

>>714022415
Castrated grapple hook that's optional is better than forcing you to grapple hook every monster for a rodeo session

Duchess's time rewind move is better than Wylder's grapple hook anyway

>>714022216
nigger talking shit our game doesn't have the wound system

>>714022513
Neither do any good monhun games
Your has to deal with subhumanly small movesets

>>714022415
>castrated
there's nothing castrated about wylder

>>714016462
Based

>>714022232
>>714014356 (OP)
Also, its not good unless you're using the "erg" multiplayer password OR have a group of people you can play with

The game wants to reward you for coordinating all the little things with your teammates, but you have 0 ways of communicating with them except a ping. It sounds more managable then it is, but you will be forced to just abandon any notion of communication and just run and attack shit

>>714022640
He thinks because Wylder can't jump on each monster's back it's worse than Monhun

>>714015602
Yeah, even though I feel like I should be sick of it, the fundamentals are just so fun and it lets me boss strangers around

>>714022513
Yeah it has retarded weapon skill spam leading to poise breaks instead.

>>714022509
>forcing you to grapple hook every monster for a rodeo session
You can literally disable that. As always, fromshitters have no idea what they are talking about.

>>714022724
>The game wants to reward you for coordinating all the little things
The game was made around 0 coordination. If you sit on discord and coordinate the game is piss easy.

>>714022848
You cannot lmao. I lost enough times at Iceborne solo to know the game is designed around the grapple hook.

>>714022826

>both teammates get exploded by the Death Rite Bird's 5-pointed-star attack
How many years will it take for normies to learn the compass tech? This shit is really annoying, it's like if Malenia could appear as a day 2 boss and oneshot your party with waterfowl dance.

>>714022640
>cannot hang in the air like on a wirebug to avoid low reaching aoes
>has nothing akin to redirection or any other cool shit from rise, just a lame iframe pilebunker that's braindead to use

>>714023049
Wirebugs are shit lmao. Go back to gachas and stay out of ER threads.

>>714022415
>castrated

>>714023040
wtf are you talking about?

>>714022724
>unless you're using the "erg" multiplayer password OR have a group of people you can play with
way to out yourself as a shitter that needs to get carried to have fun

>>714023101
>Wirebugs are shit
And yet they are significantly better mechanically than wylder's grapple

>>714015602
my friends stopped playing but I want to kinda keep play
also thought eldin ring was shit for the record

>>714022724
Fuck that, running with randos is great. Yeah you're not gonna be strategically optimal, and they're probably gonna fuck up sometimes, but this game isn't so hard that you can't pull victory from imperfect runs. Those are the most kino scenarios anyway

>>714023179
Like I care about the mechanics of a grapple hook I don't use or want to use

>>714023040
I wanted this game to go full wacky and do things like add a double malenia fight but they didn't do it

>>714023118
>awesome button ult
>r1 r1 poisebreak r1
>grapple attacks that are literally flaming strike
what is the point of this lameass webm

>>714023118
god damn I love wylder

>>714023258
Not my problem

>>714023015
I'm not that guy you were replying to nor a fan of Wilds. But don't act like spamming the same skills and spells over until the boss collapses so you can crit it is somehow superior to the worst MH game.

>>714014356 (OP)
It's fun but I'm kinda burnt out on it, I clocked like 80 hours in the first few days

>>714014356 (OP)
Surprisingly very good. I had very low expectations going in and loved it although I can see why some people with very high expectation would hate it

>>714023372
And yet here you are begging for more grappling hooks.
Grapple hook brony

>>714014356 (OP)
It was fun until I realized you get like three chances to complete each shifting earth and then they never ever will show up again as long as you're hosting

>>714014356 (OP)
It has surprisingly more staying power for me than I thought it would. Like the limits of the quantity of content become apparent very quickly, but it stays fun with even the small amount of variation per run.
Looking forward to more stuff, and I legitimately hope they've seen the success it's had and invest in adding more shit to it beyond the fairly limited set of stuff they've already announced.

>Play Recluse/Revnant
>Everyone always goes where I want, will die trying to rez me

Is this what being a woman irl is like?

>>714023443
>he doesn't know

>>714019945
And his stamina never goes under 3/4th

>>714023443
>he doesn't know

Ironeye is fucking cursed
>if you aren't playing him you'll get teamed with (at least) one who's completely retarded
>if you are playing him you're still guaranteed to get stuck with someone retarded (which could be another Ironeye)
I think I've had exactly one game playing as him where I didn't have at least one sandbag teammate, otherwise they've all been awful

>>714023473
>>714023545
Sovereign sigils isn't a solution to the problem btw

One issue is that most shit in the game concerning gear, stats, etc, is cryptic as fuck, never explained, with endless exceptions of what stacks and what overwrites what, with almost no consistency. You're going to need a guide to grasp it

Also item clog is an issue. Most things on the map are red-herrings, and most items are useless, wasting more time to pick them up than to just run past them spamming Y and hoping you get something nice. For all of the fluff on the map, most of it is just there to distract new players once you learn how to route things.

>>714022889
I mean thats the thing, if you're able to spend .5 second in voice dropping an item for a teammate (as just one of a hundred examples of where you need to communicate something), the advantage is huge.

However you justify it, its still this source of frustration that you have to just learn to tolerate

>>714023224
Fine, but for every time you clutch with randos and feel great, there's 3 or 4 times someone leaves, people split up and fail, or other debilitating shit that locks you into a game thats going to fail. If you're able to coral randos, then it is marginally better.

>>714023760
>he doesn't know

>>714023821
>bot post
Reported for spam

>>714014356 (OP)

Glad people are already moving back from Fortreign to proper ER again. This piece of shit mod doubled my summoning waiting time

>>714023910
bro just admit you're retarded

>>714023418
who the hell would have high expectations when the director himself said right after the announcement that it was an asset flip

I have no friends so I didn't play it and the memes are the gayest most reddit shit i have ever seen,anyone should be embarrassed to make or post such things

>>714023987
What does showing me your steam achievements prove? Don't act like you're in the know because you play with mods or modified saves, faggotnigger

>>714023049
>cannot hang in the air like on a wirebug to avoid low reaching aoes
We have a tool for that it's called JUMPING
>cool shit
...that nobody uses because it sucks ass
In practice wirebugs are used for the OP wirebug skills and a free get out of jail free card when you get slapped

>>714023918
rookie mistake. the real bell strat is to spam your whole MP on a world boss and then run back to the grace and do like 2 pokes on it at most and repeat after it gets yeeted back to spawn. That stupid bell has stupid DPS and range that makes plenty of those bosses free kills.

>>714024243
bro is beyond retarded

>>714024310
>act like an apathetic zoomer nigger
>deflect when anyone calls him out on his shit
Everytime

Haven't played since I beat all the NLs and just did quests for most of the characters. Ill wait for the DLC to see how it goes, a remixed boss does nothing for me.

>>714015860
Not everyone can be pinging routes if you want to be effective. Like if you get a guy who's pinging the same things you'd pick in roughly the same order there's not really a need to ping outside of something along the lines of pinging an evergaol to show you have a key. Being the guy who just follows is fine as long as your teammates aren't being stupid and are already marking routes.

>>714024289
>We have a tool for that it's called JUMPING
Jumping is nothing compared to the ability to simply hang in the air like wirebugs allow you to. They also give you wayyy more aerial mobility.
>...that nobody uses because it sucks ass
Redirection is fucking amazing and it's commonly used by anyone playing sunbreak any decent amount of time
It also decreases wirebug cooldowns so i have no idea what you're babbling about

>>714024451
I proved to your retarded nigger ass you can definitely get shifting earths without using sigils.

turning point of from realizing they can jusr serve whatever low effor slop and rollbabbies will eat it

>>714024660
By showing me your 14 hours modded achievements/offline steam playtime? Again how does that prove anything except that you're a retarded lying zoomer faggot?

>>714024860
ok now you're just trolling

>>714014356 (OP)
I like it but I just play guardian and block everything
It's fun when everyone has fun :)

Revenant feet

>hello, we are the worst characters you can have on your team

>>714024652
>hang in the air like wirebugs allow you to
You haven't played the game if you think this is the issue with wirebugs. The issue was always with wirefall recovery, the thing that lets you cancel the standing up animation. Suspending mid-air has always been a stupid gimmick that was only useful for Narwa and Amatsu.

>>714024925
>state the shifting earths only gives you a few chances per host before requiring extra steps to play them again
>hurr durr muh achievments
No, you're either illiterate or retarded. Probably both.

>>714025192
BIRDMAN SEXO

I am required to pick Recluse or Revenant because I will never forgive myself if I roll a seal with Burn O Flame while playing a FTHlet

>>714025252
>before requiring extra steps to play them again
what fucking extra steps you dumb retard just play the game they randomly appear in your game. Go right now play solo and quit immediately and you will get shifting earth after 2-3 tries.

>>714025192
>no damage
>endlessly revives you
It's like infinite torture

>>714025192
>>714025514
feels like fromsoft overrated how useful a revival ult is and gimped the rest of their kits for that
executor is also trash, and the thing all 3 have in common is that their ults are "good" for reviving

>>714025449
>Go right now play solo and quit immediately and you will get shifting earth after 2-3 tries.
I played eleven matches solo with no shifting earth. Relying on dumb rng luck to get what you want is retarded

>>714025514
cute and funny

>>714025449
nta, it's usually 15-20 for me and almost always mountaintop
I wouldn't have even seen noklateo in the past 100 hours if it weren't for the sovereign shop

>>714025639
rouge-lite genre is not for you then

>>714025702
>rouge-lite genre
Not a good rogue-lite if all the rogue-lite features are half baked

Kinda funny that every time I want a game to become a live service game doesn't happen, this and granblue relink would be very fun games to play on the regular if they updated them

>>714022931
>I lost enough times at Iceborne solo
admitting you're fucking garbage isn't a good idea in DS/Elden ring or MH threads. Your opinion is worth less than zero. The other anon is wrong, but you can literally not use it you dumb fucking faggot.
>game is designed around a new gimmick they introduced
WOW who would have thought you braindead nigger?

>>714014356 (OP)
certified FromGODS kino

>>714025192
>>714025514
>>714025595
>be Raider
>basically do almost everything better than Guardian besides ressing

>>714025192
I hope one day to see a guardian dual wielding greatshields.

>>714025595
They didn't lean enough into guardian being the "tank" spec. It makes sense to give him lower damage to emphasize that he should be blocking and drawing enemy attention more than attacking, but that needs to be an innate ability, not a relic passive, and even with the relic it doesn't seem to be very effective at keeping enemy aggro. The revival ult is kind of silly when his toolkit should be about preventing KOs in the first place.

>>714014356 (OP)
>do the same map with the same enemies, same bosses, and same shitty circle everytime
>EIGHT total nightlords
it's fromsloppa of the lowest degree, they didnt even try.

>>714026042
I go double greatshield on Raider to spite Guardians

>>714026282
>most boss attacks are aoes/arcs and the shield won't even protect characters behind you even if you guard it

Great with friends

>>714025192
Honestly I would rather see a Guardian or Revenant on my team than an Ironeye or a Duchess, with the bird and the doll you know they aren't some idiot picking what they saw at the top of a tier list who's going to die the first time the boss looks at them. Minimal damage but alive > not alive

the gameplay itself is amazing, I just wish there was more content in it
it's the complete opposite of most games of this genre who survive entirely off of new content but have dogshit gameplay

>>714014356 (OP)
It's really fun. Sometimes you get retarded companions that makes your experience miserable but then you get clutch moments that are amazing.
I had a noob Recluse that kept dying and a god tier Birb, I was playing revenant, had a club with golden slam and everytime Recluse fell I just buttslammed her back to life to the point that Birb was almost soloing the boss all the time. The nigtglord was augur and Recluse Comet Azured his out when he did the weird sleep thing. She bowed to us repeatedly after we won. It was fun.
The social interactions are few but meaningful

>>714015657
Warrior Jar or Albinauric with the flip would be peak

>>714022216
>monhun with its fantastic combat system
KEK

phase 2 everdark fulghor is incredibly easy and I have no idea how people keep getting downed on him
first phase is kinda annoying with the autistic squirting everywhere though

Just coming back to try the everdarks at this point. Done all remembrances got good relics, all skins all achievements it is by and large 100% done
Yet the loop is still fun to just hop in and do.

>>714025192
Guardian is fuckin MVP at intentionally feeding himself to Adel repeatedly so your friends can do damage to him

>>714016462
Someone post the Ball Busting Chad force choking 3 lads at a time

So uhhhhh what's the LORE?

>>714015657
They also need to add perfume bottles to make the perfume art relic effect not useless.

>>714014356 (OP)
I didn't buy this after how terrible Shadow of the Erdtree was, and it's comforting knowing I was in the right after seeing how quickly discussion for this FOTMslop died.

>>714023443
Go to sleep anon

https://youtu.be/5ZsnqSE1UNc?si=fqa9fpKDLmDrxNZo
Underappreciated track

>>714025192
>Rev ulted
>"Oh nice I can dps with out dying now"
>Die 2 seconds later
>Remember I dodge rolled and you dont get the buff from rev during i frames

Her ult is stupid broken with the relic though, it gives 25% dmg boost for 30 seconds which is way better than recluse ult aside from regening health/fp

>>714023760
Why not? Does it not count because then you'd be wrong?

>>714025514
With his ability cd relic he can aoe farm pretty good making some encounters with mobs a joke. His damage is so pitiful in 1v1s though, solo with him its not even worth killing the crucible knights in castle

>>714015602
>I hate elden ring for reference
So the thing that makes you like a game is repetitive slop?

>>714014356 (OP)
The game is surprisingly more fun than I thought it would be. Really like playing as Revenant

>>714014356 (OP)
Looks like people moved on. Used to have 5 dudes play it on my steam friends list. Now it's 0.

>>714028619

Genuinely a very fun paced game. I'd kill for map offerings like Dead by Daylight that adds in more graces, bosses, etc.

anyone notice any differences with higher elo lobbies? wondering if theres an easy way to tell if i'm climbing up

>>714028257
>Raider's story is..............................
>He's a raider................................ and he defeated his rival..............................................................!!!!
okay

>>714029248
The Very Hungry Caterpillar would go over your head

They should add these into the game.

>>714028776
This image is fucking stupid because pets generally do get bored with the same thing over and over and should have a decent variety of toys.

>>714014356 (OP)
From's biggest flop. Not even breaking 77 on Metacritic, no end game, just a bunch of zoomers fighting meaningless battles against NPCs without the challenge of real PVP that you have in Fortnite.

>>714027902
It's the stupidest lore From has ever written. Not only is it told to you out-fucking-right instead of pieced together from items and vague NPCs that explain nothing, it's all tied to a fucking woman who didn't abort her kid when she should've.

>>714028776
>game has relatively few random events
>they're all pretty rare
so dumb

>>714028467
He's not that bad at it, his uptime offsets the damage somewhat. He can shieldpoke and guard counter while other characters have to waste time rolling, and with a powerstance setup he can abuse his bulk and poise to recklessly mash into them like Raider.
That said, he looks a lot better comparatively against the groups of banished knights he can throw in a blender.

>>714029571
>>714029634
>>714029821
>>714029956
All me btw

it's fun, really good boss themes as well. Caligo is kino

>>714027902
I just shat everything out then left

>>714014356 (OP)
It's fun, but needs a balance pass to root out metafags. The game already isn't all that difficult. Playing with turds who do the same strategy repeatedly gets old fast

>>714021025
Nothing needs to be buffed and none of the characters are even remotely weak. Guardian is obviously the lowest DPS, but that's the entire point of the character. If you're one of those tards who thinks rev is weak, just know you're getting skill issued hard

>>714022724
I have a 2/3rds wr with randoms. This is blatant lie or you're just shit

>>714014356 (OP)
Doubled down on spamming/flailing bosses again when it could have leaned into the team play aspect and put pseudo-MMO raid like mechanics to make the fights interesting. Instead we got 10 attack chain enemies while you run around like a retard. It's like they almost tried to have actual mechanics with the elemental weapon weaknesses and things like the golden seals during the Libra fight, but nope, toy with that for one fight and then never again. Faggots.

>>714014356 (OP)
||penis||

>>714031515
I don't think I have ever seen a team actually break the Libra sigils past the first set. Completely pointless mechanic, especially since you can just break the shield directly.

>>714031495
Lol this is pure cope. A guardian in the party is literally worse than having no third.

>>714031880
>t. Doesn't take guard counter buffs or use the guardian stance

The whole "rev & guardian bad" is legitimately the shitter and midwit take. It's fine, but you really should recognize that. You haven't learned to play to their strengths.

>Friend suggests buying/playing this
>Nah I'll pass, didn't like ER that much
>Goes silent and leaves the call

Oh sorry, I should've bought the game I probably won't enjoy. From shills are fucking weird man.
Maybe if it goes in the bargain bin for £5

>>714027725
any monster hunter moveset from like the last 10 years is better than elden ring combat

>>714014356 (OP)
I like it. I think it's fun

>>714031874

>>714014356 (OP)
Just dogshit jeeted slop for people who forgot what made Des, DS, Bloodborne and Sekiro good.

I've played too much Recluse and now I'm having terrible time with melee characters. It's mage life for me now it seems.
...maybe I'll play her with melee weapons.

>>714034261
just spam carian slicer

>>714033107
Tell your friend that he should ditch tasteless poorfags like yourself.

>>714031835
That's the problem

>>714034960
>tasteless
>literally a stripped down massively simplified version of elden ring to make money off of the casual streamerbait hypebro audience

I'm tired of soulslop
I'm tired of roguelites

>>714014356 (OP)
I still legit don't understand how it doesn't have more content. This is your spin off milking players release based on a game with 200 bosses and 400 weapons and you give us maybe 20% of it. Why?
What harm would more mobs or boss or weapon variety have done? I get ur too lazy to make a second map even though the only one in the game feels like a source mod. .. but ok

>>714025192
recluse is the worst if she doesnt get a good staff.

I generally like it but I wish there were more classes and events.
The new hard mode bosses are nice.

>>714036345
i wish there was another map

This just proves that Fromtrannies are as gullible as FIFAfags and less intelligent than CoD flags.

>>714036728
That would be cool, especially if it came with a new set of shifting earths.

>>714036216
Optimistically, they wanted to play it safe for the initial release and started with the easier stuff. Having Malenia or Promised Consort Radahn gank you in the middle of a day would've filtered more people at launch than Gladius already did.
Realistically, I'm expecting $15 DLC for a few new shifting earths.

>>714028776
>the people who enjoy doing the exact same playthrough over and over are as dumb as a cat
Yeah that fits

>>714034261
Literally me until I decided out of the blue to play Wylder and I've been having so much fun with that bastard. The Relic that lets you have two grapples is amazing.

>>714037137
Different anon, but it's not even peak hard stuff that they could've added, just more variety to night bosses/point of interest bosses with stuff from other games. Taurus Demon, a couple Capra Demons, invader swamp woman, Quelaag, 68 wheel skeletons all at once, Xanthous King Jeremiah, Sanctuary Guardian, Sif, lmao4king, armored boars
Like that's just Dark Souls 1 and I'm skipping the bosses people consider emblematic of the game like.

>>714038321
I wonder how hard the dual sanctuary guardians would be in this game
It's an utterly cancer fight in DS1 but NR characters could probably handle it

>>714038578
Honestly they'd probably fit right into the day 2 boss difficulty.

>>714015602
I also prefer nightreign over ER.
ER feels too bloated with all of its useless dungeons and boring bosses

>>714014356 (OP)
Forgot it came out

>>714038991
That makes no fucking sense. Nightreign is entirely just clearing boring camps and fighting boring bosses until the last boss of the run.

is there any chance of liking this game if I'm only gonna play it solo

>>714040081
Maybe? Solo right now though is way easier than multiplayer.

>>714040081
Unless this is the last Soulslike-ish game on earth you haven't played you should just buy another one instead.

>>714039496
Now instead of doing that with copy and paste bosses and actual unique bosses over the course of a 100 hour open world playthrough now I can do the exact same thing but in a condensed 40 minute run and try different ER playstyles and weapons on the way! Yay

>>714014356 (OP)
Objectively correct Boss Music Ranking:

Caligo > Gnoster > Maris > Heolstor > Libra > Fulghor > Adel = Gladius (they're both bogstandard shit)

It needed more, feels more like a demo. Though I guess the Competicucks are already sucking its dick. p.s, nobody listens to you because you are a fag who thinks the world revolves around you. And while they may have lost a run you lose everyday by being you.

>>714025514
The first time i beat the final boss it was with bird, both of my teammates were dead, twice, and i revived them both twice, and I got the final kill anyway.

>>714039496
I don't need to spend 100 hours to reach a fun boss just because I got lost in the copypasted dungeon #68754

>>714022216
You could say this a few years ago, but it doesn't work anymore.

>>714040663
Libra is easily the best, idk what you're smoking

>100 hours
>haven't found a single good random relic drop

>>714039496
You don't like video games.

>>714014356 (OP)
Nightreign sucks, Elden Ring sucked too. I don't get the appeal at all, it's so much worse than other fromsoft games

>>714014356 (OP)
Really fun if you're a rollslop addict like myself and i HATE roguelikes. The price is a little steep for the content though that is, the lack thereof.

>>714014356 (OP)
The game is a ton of fun. The biggest issue is it being a budget title. I would have happily paid $70 for a few more nightlords, some more old bosses returning, like 2 more characters, and more randomized map events. Basically just more content.
The clearly will not have new content ready for months, probably 6-8. Everything being released now is in the files and it is still being done at a snail's pace. Clearly all of the discourse surrounding the game and the general negative sentiment got to them so they were not prepared for the success and largely positive response from the community.

>>714014356 (OP)
It's fun, but needs more characters, more map variety, and more skins

>>714025192
Guardian is useful. If he can hold aggro on the boss his block (along with a decent shield + some guard up passives) can really make it so the other two can just go nuts on the boss. His ultimate is good, especially when it heals.
Revenant is actually just bad. She is a worse FAI caster than Recluse, has FP problems, her ultimate is shitty, and her summons die instantly vs Nightlords, especially these buffed up everdark ones.

>>714016462
>Gameplay footage of Guardian doing what he does best (nothing)
Both teammates being down is the icing on the cake.

>>714014356 (OP)
We need a STR/FAI Paladin archetype and a STR/INT Royal Knight archetype.
I declare that the STR/INT should be a woman in full plate armor so you can't even tell she is a woman but then has a soft voice. The STR/FAI Paladin guy should be decked out in heavy armor but then not wear a helmet and look like a giga chad with long hair.

>>714043440
Lol yeah me either. They’re simply too goddamn rare.

Also, is there any reason to hang onto the tiny ones?

>>714014356 (OP)
It has roguelike elements so nah I'd skipped it

>>714044520
I want a str/fai equivalent to duchess but she's a huge lady knight instead. I'd be fine if they were str/int. We need a colossal sword specialist

>>714027150
>with the bird and the doll you know they aren't some idiot
A vast majority of my losses are with bird partners, by far the most retarded playerbase.
Ironeye is hard to notice because the role is easy and they rarely make or break a run (probably the most illiterate playerbase though). Duchess kind of sucks but less because of the character and more because it tends to attract the biggest leader complex faggots that try to micromanage everyone.

>>714014356 (OP)
6/10
Should've been 20 bucks at most for the amount of new content you're actually getting. The game doesn't even deserve the "roguelite" tag because of how little randomization there is between runs and the practically nonexistent progression system. On top of that 90% of each run is farming trash that can barely fight back until you get to the only somewhat interesting content in the game.

>>714044520
I'm actually surprised there was no sword and board guy; they kind of did it with Wylder but not really.

I think a beastman claw/fist dude would be cool, or a crazy perfumer. It's an extremely longshot but I want a Great Katana dude because I think that weapon is neato.

>>714044879
I just meant moreso in terms of stat scaling. Like there are straight up STR/INT and STR/FAI weapons in the game that no one can really use appropriately. I mean Wylder can kind of use them, but it is weird that they didn't add those but kept the weapons in.

I do agree that there are a ton of archetypes they can do. A claw/fist guy as you said, a spear user, straight/curved sword user, etc. I mean they can make someone specialize in basically any type of weapon that is not already being used.
It is also really weird that Raider can use whatever type of colossal weapon he wants but Wylder is so autistic he only cares about greatswords and not curved greatswords.

>>714025192
Ironeye main opinion on seeing any one of the tanky trio at character select
>Love to see
Raider
>50/50
Executioner
>Might as well quit now
Guardian

A good Raider is essentially a free win.

>>714044983
Oh true, I agree with that too.

And I feel like Raider should have just been good with Great Hammers, not all colossal weapons.

I'm having a great time. Just finished heolster for the first time. Recluse is fun.

>>714044520
It's weird we got a Sekiro guy but no Bloodborne guy, someone with a health drain gimmick and a parry while using an offhand crossbow would be fun.
Martial Arts guy has been thrown around too, could be the reverse quality distribution from Wylder with A Dex and B Str.

>>714044879
There's not much of a need when anything interesting you could do with blocking is already covered by Guardian and Executioner.

>>714045137
I have not touched Recluse or Guardian and i'm not sure i will

>>714045310
NTA, but I only played them to get the 'chevo for beating a nightlord with each character.
I predominantly play duchess and wylder, aka John and Jane Nightreign.

>>714022392
Why does this whirlwind last so long?

>>714026042
But Guardian is a bird so that makes him better

Post your wishlists for throwback bosses motherfuckers.
>DaS1
Ornstein and Smough
Artorias
Pinwheel
Quelaag
>DaS2
The Pursuer
Looking Glass Knight
Darklurker
Burnt Ivory King
>DaS3
Abyss Watchers
Pontiff Sulyvahn
Champion Gundyr
Demon in Pain and Demon From Below
>DeS
Flamelurker
Phalanx
Tower Knight
Old King Allant

>>714045789
It's one of the upgrades you can get for him

>>714046071
imagine them shadow dropping Dragon God in random lava events

>>714043440
>Got a +2 Vig, +2 End and +Runes for user and allies early on
Love my stacked as fuck Relic.

I do not like this game very much
I will refund it and purchase something more in line with my personal tastes

>>714046071
Nine-Ball

>>714046220
Would be hilarious but good fucking luck getting a group of three random assholes to actually engage with a stealth section.

Ok, I'm an Ironeyechad but how do you play birb effectively?
>but he's not good, Raider can do everything better, etc
I know, I want to play the hard character no one else plays. What relics should I go for? What shields and ashes and weapons should I look out for?

>>714046071
Pursuer 100% needs to be an event that just randomly invades you.

Where's the dlc? Why isn't there a mode where all earth events are active at once? Why can't I have sex with a tsundere doll?

This game was suppose to die in a week bros??

In regular elden ring how do I avoid getting stunlocked and smacked out in 2 hits? It's like they took everything bad about ds2 and modernized it

>game started at mixed reviews
>is now up to 80% positive

>>714046346
>no one else plays.
That's the shittiest thing about Guardian, he has too many players that all flock to him because he's "le underdog".
If you want a hard mode character nobody is using, play Executor.

>>714046450
shazamtransisters........... we lost

>>714046462
Level Vig to 40 ASAP, you should aim for 50-60 Vig by end game.

>>714046071
I mainly tried to pick bosses that would work with 3 players
>DeS
Flamelurker (Because of the AoE explosions)
Phalanx (Obvious choice
Old Hero (Would be fun if he changes target at completely random times for no apparent reason)
DS
Quelaag (Because of the lava pools)
Bell Gargoyles (Obvious)
Ornstein and Smough (Also obvious)
DS2
Dark Lurker (Obvious)
Looking Glass Knight (Obvious)
Burnt Ivory King (Also obvious)
DS3
Curse Rotted Greatwood (No i'm not joking)
Demon Princes (Obvious)
Gael (Maybe the lighting strikes could specifically target all players instead of being seemingly random)
Now for a complete fanservice choices
Artorias and Sif at the same time
Placidusax and Bael fighting eachother, causing colateral attacks (think of the final boss in Smash Bros Ultimate)
[SPOILER];Godrick and Godefroy[/SPOILER];

>>714016891
>Dragon Communion Incantations apply Anti-Dragon effect to weapon
I fucking hate this. Its so incredibly specific that t makes me seethe. WHY is it an option?

>>714046772
Fuck

>>714046450
At this point, i think it is safer to assume that if people doompost about a game on /v/ that means it will be a success

>>714014356 (OP)
It’s a fun game with meme flaws. I do wish we could get a version of this but without the gay rain. Honest to god it feels fun rushing through shit with a couple of bros just smashing your way through stuff to get rare weapon.

>>714015657
>>714015990
>>714022349
>>714022453
>>714027637

Elden Ring has so many earnestly interesting characters, races, and enemy types, that there's dozens of characters they could add to Nightreign that I'd shit and basedjack over it:
>Dragon Communion or even just a Dragoman
>Misbegotten, some kind of Lionman.
>An Omen, Hornsent or maybe an Ancient Ancestor.
>A Jar guy.
>A Perfumer or an Omen Killer
>An Albinauric
>A Demihuman.
>An Onyx or Alabaster Lord.
>A Graduated Glintstone Sorcerer with the big stone head and everything.

>>714047050
I want a playable frog man. His ulti could be shooting spikes in all directions like the one's in Mohg's palace

>>714015657
These are the archetypes the game is missing.

1. Bloodborne character function with their only version of rally
2. Dry Leaf martial artist
3. Pure faith user (preferably one who leans towards strength)
4. Thief class
5. Mohg blood acolyte user (some type of vampire concept)
6. Dragon communion user
7. Perfumer
8. Crafter/cookbook user
9. Dark magic user
10. Spell Sword

>>714014356 (OP)
me and my brother who beat elden ring DLC prenerf didnt't buy it and think its garbage
meanwhile my normie co worker who didn't even finish elden ring LOVES nightreign.
what does this tell you?

>>714047276
I'm surprised there's no dedicated healer

>>714044404
Revenant is weird, you have to work a LOT harder than most other people to do well - her ult is great as a teamwipe recovery, but she's also fragile as fuck - if you're not on your toes and good at dodging (with a completely standard roll, no extra iframes like Recluse, spam dodge like Duchess, or fuckloads of HP/block stance like Guardian) then you're probably not going to be the last one standing while your two buddies are on 3 bars.
Still, I'd say she's fine - smaller drop pool means she's more likely to get a good seal than Recluse, mage towers are fuckin fountains of starlight shards so FP isn't a big problem, wraith calling bell is a pretty good fallback for if you get real unlucky, her claw is the best melee weapon in the game for reviving allies and scales with faith as another fallback if you're confident enough to stay in melee, your summons are fragile but any distraction is still useful.
None of the characters are bad, really. Guardian's DPS is low compared to everyone else, but he's useful in plenty of other ways.

>>714047346
I don't know. Because i enjoyed the Elden Ring DLC and enjoy Nightreign

>>714047346
you and your brother have shit taste and your normie co worker had fun

Is a character's size is an actual factor when trying to avoid attacks or do they all share the same hurtboxes?

>>714047346
>what does this sample size of two tell you, huh?
That you're retarded?

>>714047276
>3. Pure faith user (preferably one who leans towards strength)
That's just Revenant. We don't have a real pure Int user yet, though it'd be tough to distinguish them from Recluse.
>4. Thief class
Duchess already kind of covers all the bases on that one.

It's already been mentioned but Str/Faith chad is the most obvious thing that the game doesn't really cover, could easily work as a counterpart to Duchess's Int/Dex build.

>>714022216
LOOOOOL

>>714046462
You start poisetanking lighter hits at 51 poise

>>714047497
Shorter characters have smaller hurtboxes and larger character have slightly more reach on their attacks, neither is hugely impactful though.

>>714046071
Mirror Knight with his original gimmick

>>714047346
that nothing will ever beat your love of sucking cock

>>714047628
k thanks

I usually get to bosses around lvl 11, is that enough? I’m playing wylder and it feels like I’m barely doing any damage to bosses. Usually I have a greatsword and shield, sometimes a talisman

This is my first souls game btw, I don’t think I understand how magic or boss weaknesses are supposed to work. If the first boss is weak to holy, should I try to find swords that do holy damage?

>>714047361
>I'm surprised there's no dedicated healer

Adding it to my obsessive list: >>714047050
A Shaman/Numen character - whatever race Marika was as a devoted healer class. Maybe one who either escaped or survived Jar'dom.

>>714045250
>anything interesting you could do with blocking is already covered by Guardian and Executioner.
More offensive blocking, maybe? Like character passive is replacing the parry action on shields with a more aggressive charging shield slam that works on parryable attacks but also does big stagger if you parry big stuff. Straight Sword + Medium/Light shield custom moveset that replaces L1 with a an attack string with guard points built in like the pair Sword and Shield weapons.
No idea on skill/ult, could just do some generic Captain America shit and throw the shield for the skill but that seems rather uninspired.

>>714047742
It's doable but with good routing you should be making it to night 3 at 13-15. You can consistently end night 1 at lvl 9
Boss weaknesses usually cancel a mechanic as well as do more damage. They're not necessary but it really helps a lot to have something something in the offhand for the bosses that you want to stagger with their weakness

>4 more days until ultrablack bug bros

>>714047742
Yes you want holy damage, and you can hit level 14-15 once you are more experienced and have better routes. Until then try to at least be like 13.
The castle is one of the best spots to go to on day 2. If it isn't the dumb pot throwing giants you can fully clear it out (one boss in the basement, one on the roof, all the wandering guys) and that alone along with some other random shit will get you to 14/15.
Make sure to buy all the revives. Try to get the boss weakness on a weapon, if it is blue do a mine to upgrade it to purple.

>>714047742
The night lords? 11 is doable (I think the softcap is 13, don't quote me) but you really shouldn't be that low from an entire run. You're probably not using your time optimally.

>I don’t think I understand how magic or boss weaknesses are supposed to work. If the first boss is weak to holy, should I try to find swords that do holy damage?
Increased damage and most bosses have some gimmick where getting hit by their weakness debuffs or stuns them in certain situations. Look for camps with an icon indicating the element/status the boss is weak to. Also make sure to hit a mine if you're using a weapon that isn't fully upgraded already (purple or gold) so you can get a smith stone 2 from the mine's boss.

>team wants to fight the goat on day one
>team wants to aggro an entire camp with invaders day one
>team ignores the volcano entirely on day 2
>team instantly wipes to horse/goat cock

Having fun tho

I don't understand why this game still has insane player count despite the fact there is no incentive to play

>>714046071
>Post your wishlists for throwback bosses motherfuckers.

I'm fine with throwback bosses, but I want more Elden Ring Bosses for LORE IMPLICATIONS. "I clapped" when I saw Godrick the Grafted used Crucible Arts in his second phase and when Margit started doing Blood Arts like his brother.

>>714048118
My friends and I have beaten all the bosses multiple times including the everdark bosses and still like to hop on to do a few matches. It is just fun. Also relic gambling and laughing at getting nothing but trash.

>>714014356 (OP)
I fucking love it.
But I can't beat the goatman and it's giving me conniptions.

>>714046470
they fixed the major complaints people had about the game pretty fast.

and then they started putting out the everdark versions of bosses, along with a new currency system/shop, which also fixed a lot of other issues people had.

>>714014356 (OP)
peak sloppa

>When you get moonveil on duchess

>>714047276
I swear to GOD if they don't add Patches I'm rioting.

>>714046470
meanwhile Wilds has just hit overwhelmingly negative

>>714048476
well it is 56% mixed, but recently are overwhelmingly negative.

>>714048476
>>714048516

Wtf happened?

>>714048585
No performance improvements since launch.

>>714048476
>Fromdrones have the lowest standards on the planet and will guzzle up a total asset flip
>This is somehow something to be proud of
I will always be amazed by how many people openly brag about being retarded corporate bootlickers

>>714048585
The game is too easy, runs like trash, has a terrible forced story, lacks content, and is taking months to add just one or two monsters.

>>714022449
>PCmads they're mad about being second class citizens... again.
Stay mad.

>>714048585
They somehow made performance even worse, from what my toaster PC friend tells me.

>>714046470
It's been amusingly synced to the Gladius clear rate for weeks.

>>714048476
>>714048516
Why? i never played Monster Hunter

>>714048696
See: >>714048647
It is mostly the game is so easy that it is boring and the content is being added too slowly.

>>714048743
Oh so i guess they hit the diminishing returns of making the game more casual?

Okay you fags here is the tip that is gonna make you 100% better at this game:

If you're NOT playing Guardian or Raider then you need to need to have as much VIT on your relics as possible. +9 is preferred. +6 is fine for Wylder. With that you will have double the HP early game and like 25% more late game before you get potential HP bonuses. Doing a bit more damage won't matter if you die.

>>714048804
Yes, I mean literally. People thought World/Rise were casual and Jesus Christ, they are Freedom Unite compared to Wilds. Wilds is an actual baby game.

>>714047893
If I had to design another shield character:
>Vanguard
>HP A, FP D, STA S, STR B, DEX A, INT D, FAI B, ARC D
>Starting weapons: Straight Sword, Medium Shield (unique moveset when equipped with a straight sword plus medium shield, reminiscent of the Valorheart from DaS3)
>Passive: Stalwart (Reduced Stamina cost for Blocking and Guard Counter, shorter guard break animation than normal)
>Skill: Stampede (the first part of Meteoric Ore Greatsword's weapon art, basically. If shield is equipped, will hold it up to absorb damage while moving).
>Ultimate: Rally the Troops (Light AoE damage, gives user and allies increased damage absorption, HP and Stamina regen, and cures any status build up).

>>714014356 (OP)
10/10 bosses killed
1/10 bosses solo'd
4/8 remembrances completed
3/4 endings completed
8/10 game very fun.

>>714047276
I would love a perfumer. made this recently.

>>714049087
You should probably limit which perfumes work with that skill, skill with Uplifting Aromatic would actually just be disgusting.
They should also probably add the perfume weapons from the DLC if they add a character like this.

>>714049078
There are more than 2 endings? I thought it was just Wylder's + Everyone elses.

>>714049317
Ironeye gets a special ending too. So does Duchess kind of.

>>714049302
yeah if they ever do add them i'll update this concept to make those his preferred weapon.

about the skill though i want it to be OP. i finally want a reason to use perfumes in elden ring.

>>714049362
>Ironeye
wtf?
>Duchess
I beat the final boss with duchess and I don't remember her ending being really different, but maybe I am retarded.

>>714049317
>>714049362
>Duchess
Fuck, meant Recluse

>>714049087
Very cool

>>714049317
Ironeye and Recluse both have endings.

I think personally that makes them the "canonical" team that takes down the nightlord as all of their endings can make sense happening at the same time.

>>714049434
If all three actually happened then the world would just be completely fucked.
>Amped up Nightlord running about
>The thing that can put a stop to the Night was just fucking murdered
>Recluse has a baby Nightlord too I guess

>>714046772
What's the one new thing you'd add to each boss? Gaping gets that new vomit mode, smelter gets duel colors, and centipede got the new detachable worm.

>>714033107
>>Goes silent and leaves the call
he went to go play with his actual friends lmao

>>714049540
Ironeye keeps the nightlord rune's for himself so that he basically has the powers of the night. Recluse is raising her baby to not be a nightlord anymore (kind of the whole point of the story is she realizes her mistake is she didn't love her monster baby enough).

but the point of their endings is that they are choosing the selfish option in order to keep living and hanging out with their bros at the roundtable hold

>>714048969
Dress it up like Freyja and you're mostly in business.

I tried it once and refunded it I liked fighting bosses with randoms but I couldn't stomach busy fortnite running gameplay before that.

>>714049371
>i finally want a reason to use perfumes in elden ring.
I don't think you realize how powerful perfumes are even in the base game

>>714022724
Nah, those little moments of wordless communication where two or more players click and get the same idea are amazing

>>714014512
Yeah they brought back some bosses but barely updated their movesets so they're kinda pathetic in Elden Ring
Also they didn't bring back any weapons or spells, which would have been a much bigger deal

I wish they not only brought back bosses but normal enemies too

rated it 0/10 on all review sites, where the fuck are my maid outfits

>>714049572
NTA but giving Quelaag the ability to inflict Parasite Eggs on players would be hilariously devious.
>Get hit by a grab.
>3 minutes later, character's head explodes into a parasite larva.
>Weapon Art is replaced by the DaS1 larva kick action
>10% penalty to runes acquired
>Don't add the Egg Vermifuge to the game either, make them suffer.

>>714045021
>ironeye
opinion discarded. you might as well not even be playing the game

>night rain is fotm
>buy it on sale next year
>game is dead
>impossible to beat alone
s-sugoi

>>714050151
>>impossible to beat alone
solo is easy mode

how much does an apartment in Noklateo cost

>>714050016
There's only one normal enemy type that I desperately want added from the DaS games.
Mimics would be hilarious in this game.

>>714050115
Fuck off libra can already curse me for the whole run

>>714050230
Free if you're willing to deal with a giant space bug throwing rocks at you every day during your morning commute.

>>714047276
>Dry Leaf martial artist
I thought it would be neat if this was a Nox Monk and they could also summon/utilize mimic tears somehow.
>Mohg blood acolyte user
2nd Gen Albinuric frogman, complete with a special dodge which lets them cartwheel around and deal light damage.
>Spell Sword
Carian Knight please, sword doubles as a staff for spellcasting.

I also wanted a snekman character with a magma whip which can vomit fire and do the silly extendo-neck head-whip attack.

Imagine if all those shitty red flower items in base elden ring were replaced with nightreign drops: weapons of varying quality with no stat requirements.

>>714049540
>Recluse took her eldritch god baby out of the nightlord mecha
>john nightrein hopped in the mecha cause his body was dying and his sister would disappear if he didn't
>idk about ironeye hes assassinating or something.

>>714050640
Ironeye & has crew didn't want the game to end, he's just like us.

>>714050640
Ironeye takes the Nightlord's rune, the thing that gives the Nightlord power over the Night, and keeps it for himself.

Usually you would give it to the corpse in the alt Roundtable Hold (we have no confirmation on who this corpse is) to end the night, but Ironeye instead kills the corpse, so that there is (as far as we know) now no way to end the night. Wylder is officially the new Nightlord but even if he is ever defeated Ironeye will still have the rune.

>>714050249
Really fucking weird that Elden Ring didn't have mimics at all

Game is piss easy and fun as Recluse if you have teammates that actually pay attention to the status effects they inflict

How would you feel if they added relics that wildly changed ults
>Revenant Ult puts a debuff on a monster, if it dies in the next 30 seconds, it replaces your active/last used summon. This monster cannot regain health while unsummoned - can't hit Night/"Red Eye"/Invasion bosses.

>>714049943
>Yeah they brought back some bosses but barely updated their movesets so they're kinda pathetic in Elden Ring
Frankly, I think it's a nice change of pace from fighting nusouls gigasperg flippy dippy anime bosses. My only complaint is that they picked a really strange cohort of bosses to bring back from the old games--I mean, Centipede Demon? Duke's Dear Freja? Really?

>>714050860
>both ds1 bosses can be dismembered for the memes
>the ds3 bosses wrre the original nu-souls anime bs with strange delay attacks
>ds2's boss is only there to fuck with arachnophobes
>no bloodborne and demon souls bosses cause of IP law
>no zanzibart from sekiro

>>714050249
>>714050771

Mimics would be a VERY fun addition if they quietly added them, but didn't tell anybody. No patch notes, no fanfare, just snuck in during routine maintenance and now chests will sometimes try to get up and eat you.

>>714051039
DS2 has more than one boss tho

>>714051227
I forgor about oven knight

>>714014356 (OP)
Souless cashgrab that should've just been dlc for Elden Ring.

>>714051365
>soulless
Nah
>shoulda been dlc
Possibly? Less people would own it probably if we limited the audience to elden ring owners.

>>714050824
Recluse is fun when it all works, but sometimes it literally just doesn't and you have basically no control over it. One run you have access to all elements, teammates who use elemental damage sparingly or with slower weapons, and are up to your tits in high level spells and you're slinging death nukes left and right and can make whatever cocktail you feel like whenever you feel like. Then the next run you're stuck with shitty world drop staves and rejection seals, you have only two elements, and it doesn't even matter because you're paired with an ironeye and/or duchess applying their own element three times every frame. Bonus cancer points if it's holy.

>>714051227
>>714051342
back in the day you could see your character's boobs if you had a female wearing smelter demon armor. they should bring that back for duchess

>>714051517
They should also give boobs to the Smelter Demon

>>714051517
Why were DS2's armor designs so based?

>>714051698
I miss tits and ass being in non-porn games.

>>714014356 (OP)
Didn't buy becuase it's co-op slop.

>>714051719
We all do anon, we all do....

80 HOURS
LOVE IT
see many things from it that I wish were in Base Game, and vice versa
Expecting 300 to 500 hours, ans currently no plans to do Base Elden again after my 1100. Shadows was actually a shit DLC for summons, Shadushit not scaling in multiplayer for bosses sucks. Nightteign fills that void

What kinds of new Nightlords could we get in DLC? Assuming no overlap, elemental/status affinities which aren’t the *primary* theme of a given boss so far could be magic (if we consider Maris/mothman to be primarily sleep/poison), bleed, rot, and maybe deathblight (if Wormface at night wasn’t enough)

>>714052528
I feel a good rot-susceptible boss would be a giant plant of some sort. Think Bed of Chaos but not utter shit, but it still does take up a HUGE amount of the arena.

I've been playing for 160 hours and I haven't gotten that tired of it (just a little tired). I'm usually the last one alive no matter what class I play and being the hero that saves the run is like a drug

>>714014356 (OP)
>Demon's Souls-bourne-kiro-Ring: Fartshite Edition

Trash/10.

HUNTERS
STANDARD OR
DELUXE?
PLS RESPOND

>>714047628
>>714047497
Zullie the witch debunked this, there's no difference. Only in weapon reach.

>>714014356 (OP)
slop

>>714047742
Why is this your first souls game retard

>>714047276
>Bloodborne character function with their only version of rally
the game literally has a rally relic effect already.

>>714015602
>I hate elden ring for reference
DS3 and its consequences have been a disaster for FromSoft games.

>>714014356 (OP)
it's honestly a 30 dollar game. They need more content, things are fun, but some shit FEELS like it was almost complete. It feels like all the characters were supposed to have relics that gave them an alt weapon. It feels like there was supposed to be PVP at some point. It feels like they didn't want to commit to map gimmicks being the entire map instead of a corner of it.

It's almost amazing, it just needs some shit. I hope they let us invade players and beat their ass. Or, the final boss, Evil Nightreign, we get the option to be Evil Nightreign Baron as our character and abuse the shit out of other players like the Spear of the Church in DS3.

>>714014356 (OP)
Tranny shit
Trooncore

>>714055695
>I hope they let us invade players and beat their ass
The fact there's NPC Night Invaders implies that there will be PC Night Invaders at some point. There might be some balancing issues they want to work out first, but I'd welcome the addition (provided they make the Days slightly longer, 16-18min, to compensate).
Also
>more maps pls
>more Nightfarers pls

>have no issues fighting bosses with randoms as long as they're not the type to DC after one death
>it takes 10 runs with my friends to win 1 everdark fight
Nothing is more painful then having to try and res them from 2/3 bars and they immediately die again because they can't dodge on squishy rollslop characters

>>714016218
Elden Ring is a bad game.

>>714056195
Fromsofts fanbase gets worse and worse

Why are we discussing FORM dead trannyslop?
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/vg/

>>714018190
His super block should be passive, FromSoft unironically fucked up and made shield raising 16 FUCKING FRAMES unlike ER which was 12, in ER you could fight the Tree Sentinel on Level 1 with 3 fucking swings for your stamina to not deplete, in neightrein, you get stats allocated HIGHER than base level or even at similar points being level 6 or 8, why the fuck am I shield breaking in two hits by the Gargoyle using a greatshield with magic enchantment?!

Structurally it actually benefits a lot from the mechanics it ripped off from fortnite and hades, but it doesn't implement them particularly well and the roguelite aspect is easily the weakest draw because your character progression throughout a run is very boring and relics are awful
The new bosses are a mixed bag, they ranged from AoE spamming dragons to seizure having Deviljho ripoffs to teleporting humanoids
The biggest draw of the game is the characters, who are all fun to play and gangbang dark souls 1 bosses with

>Be me, Wylder
>Random with Raider and Duchess
>Entry is a little awkward, no easy route.
>Head to nearest church
>A red wolf mini boss is in the way
>We are level 1/2
>Duchessfag decides to try and fight, gets instantly one shot
>Raider revives her and runs off, pinging
>Fuck it, hes right not worth the time right now
>Duchessfag ignores and gets one shot again
>Quits
>Raiderbro and me continue anyway and beat the nightlord anyway
Duchessfags stay losing

still haven't played it since i hate rogue shit but i might try it, does anyone know when it gets dlc? (as in actual content and not just buffed bosses)

Is it possible to make a femboy character in the base game character creator? Asking for a friend.

It’s fun. I wish there were more night bosses and randomness in limveld but the nightlords are great. All the characters are very fun to play as if you take a bit to learn their skills and doing their remembrances gives you a good relic or two that makes them better. I think shifting earths change runs enough though I hope more are added, and I hope we get SOTE weapons as well. I’m having more fun with it than SOTE, really. SOTE was just kind of disappointing on release and I liked it a lot better when I replayed it, so I wouldn’t say Nightreign is better than SOTE, but I’d rather refight any one of these nightlords than some of the bosses from that DLC. Of course that expansion had dungeons too and those were fun and a big part of why I like it better than this game because this game doesn’t really have those except for the caves and some shifting earths like Nokteleo or whatever it’s called I guess and the crater.

>>714049715
>Final k***ht showdown about loyalty and betrayal (Mike & Trina themes)
Elden Ring peaked here
>Gay ass muh Radahn gay waifu midget fuckboy kissu kissu SHIT HITBOXES THE FIGHT THE EXPERIENCE THE MOVE GET BLINDED FAGGOT final boss
Elden Ring cratered here

>>714050151
why is duchess always cute in fanart

>>714015657
Only if he gets an ult like the DS2 Kamehameha.

>>714059189
If you know how to make good looking characters with the sliders, I've seen people make some good twinks. Couldn't be me though, I can only make scrimblos.

>>714059189
You can make pretty cute dudes if you know what you're doing. The body shape sliders aren't very robust but there is enough to them to get the slender, lithe body type, too.

>>714060182
>sick Turk
>Chad Goldman
>Jew
>Evil Goldman
>Tyreese
>Rajeet

>>714060276
I thought it would be really funny to make that Astolfo dude from that one chinky show and do a paladin build.

>>714014356 (OP)
dogshit multiplayer game, retarded fartnite ring that its detrimental to play and build up, cool characters even tho guardian its borderline retarded having the worse dodge than fatroll, it would be better and cool with mods porting to vanilla elden ring like recluse magick cocktail skill for casters

>>714060361
>""""""""funny""""""""
Sure, anon.
It's probably pretty doable, though, yeah.

>>714018190
if only the super blocking stance doesnt drain stamina making the guard boost useless

>>714022392
most of the mosnter hunter like monsters like adel sucks compared to monster hunter´s monsters

>>714023457
>I legitimately hope they've seen the success it's had and invest in adding more shit to it beyond the fairly limited set of stuff they've already announced.
same, this is the first game I've done everything in and still keep installed to play. it's fun as fuck

here's another event that's just as rare as mausoleum or frenzy but no one talks about

>>714061243
cause its a shit event

>>714061243
Yo was that 1 frame of my nigga Havel the mf rock?

>>714040663
I played and am still playing the game with the music turned off

>>714034261
Literally me. I'm having an easier time on Redeemed Fulghor as her than Wylder somehow

Okay, but what is their next proper single-player game gonna be like? And when do you think it's gonna get announced?

>>714061336
Havel and the Catarina Set are skins for Raider.

>>714028190
BWC slut

>>714047276
>Bloodborne-style character function with their only version of rally
It's a relic effect

>Pure faith user (preferably one who leans towards strength)
Covered by Revenant

>Spell Sword
Thief
Both fall under Duchess

>Vampire
>Dragon communion
>Dark magic
All just different flavors of Recluse

>Perfumer
Recluse's Magic Cocktail covers the same role but does it more effectively

GARBAGE FROMSLOP

>>714025192
I carried as Guardian many times, the problem is that playing as him is not very fun.

>>714044404
>She is a worse FAI caster than Recluse
I'm not sure what you mean by this, she is objectively stronger with miracles than Recluse and they both have the same base casting speed. Grab a seal, throw a lightning spear with both characters and see for yourself.

>>714014356 (OP)
I got the game but I wanted to wait for duos before actually starting, since I'll be playing with a friend.
So, when are the duos coming?

So DLC will have 2 nightlords and 2 characters, right?
Any chance they'll add more normal bosses to the boss pools and maybe more random events/shifting earth events? I feel like the game could really use better variety.

>>714063204
Honestly I hope they see the player retention and feedback and set the game up for longer success than 'here's a DLC in 6-9 months have fun'. It's so nice to have bitesized pieces of gear progression and a greatest hits of bosses and areas.

>>714063204
they should add more fucking skins, if they can't add more Dark Souls skins for whatever reason, then they should put some of the more iconic ER sets in the game (Raging Wolf, Snow Witch, etc).

the key to being useful as a guardian is to not gimp yourself by limiting yourself to only spears or halberds unless you get lucky with a drop
hes still just worse raider/wylder but at least you can dish out some respectable damage
he really needs a buff though, the commitment to animations you have to do as guardian is insane and unlike most other classes you absolutely need to upgrade both your weapon and shield or get lucky drops to be any use at all

>>714014356 (OP)
>/V/
400 posts by the way.

>>714047276
A godskin with body deforming/stretching ability

>>714063865
they should at least make the charged guard counter usable on lances and HTS, I would be happy with just that one little change

>>714014356 (OP)
It’s peak.

>>714031874
Wylder can use his grapplehook to hit those

>>714027584
>gets downed after
dumb fucking recluse

>>714063204
Paid characters and nightlords are fair but there should be more bosses added in some free updates too, specifically more first/second night bosses or invasion guys like Morgott. It's insane that the Pursuer didn't get a brought back for exactly that purpose, it's literally his entire gimmick

>>714014356 (OP)
Finished final boss solo, I liked it more than dlc, I wished there was more content from the base game and other projects. This shit is fun but in it's own way, final fights always feel so intense.

>>714067312

>>714050151
You can beat the game solo. It's more fun with other players but whatever, I don't have any.

>>714020635
>posts video of a natural born killer

>>714066851
Bell hunter is already a beetter version of pursuer. Honestly I've had zero problem with old bosses from ds series maybe except nameless king, he killed me like once or twice.

>>714066851
Dark Souls bosses are severely underpowered compared to the bosses from ER, Nameless King barely makes the cut. If I were to bring back bosses like the Pursuer, I would at least make them unparryable/unstaggerable.

>>714066851
he has to be in the dlc

I'm having fun with it

>>714067312
The emotes and "prattling pates" are fucking worthless when every second counts.
They need to implement customizable image macros like Monster Hunter: Wilds

>>714056818
From HATES shields.
You will rollslop and suffer our absurd attack patterns!
>Abuse skill invulnerability as Raider/Ironeye anyway

>>714069394
>They need to implement customizable image macros like Monster Hunter: Wilds
Fromsoft take their games too seriously for that

why do perfumes exist? has a single person ever used one?

heavy meta knowledge, only click if it doesn't ruin enjoyment for you

>nothing in map generation is actually random
>bosses, events, poi placements, all premade
>there are 40 map configurations per boss
https://thefifthmatt.github.io/nightreign/

>>714014356 (OP)
cancer ass bossfights
limited building options
somewhat fun with friends
Worth a purchase on sale with friends

>>714014356 (OP)
Whoever buys me this game gets head

>>714072105
it didnt even go on sale kid

>>714070525
they have their uses, but only a few of them
>useful
spark is very good for throwing at an early game boss and it's better if it's one weak to fire. sharing an uplifting with your team before a boss fight is always good. bloodboil is better on ranged characters.

>kinda useful
ironjar might be better on characters with high HP and best used against small bosses whose weapons can bounce back off of you. it's not very useful if the boss jumps all over the place and it's straight up a debuff if the boss uses lightning attacks.

>useless
acid and poison spraymist should always be ignored as they do more harm than good (acid/poison cloud covers small bosses and you can't see their movements, very dangerous if you're fighting a lower castle boss)

>>714070525
The were OP for a few patches in the elden ring dlc. Got nerfed to fuck.

>>714070854
Exactly same as Bloodborne’s chalice dungeons, except 40 x 8 instead of [100 x 7] + [200 x 3]

Fromsoft is utterly incapable of procedural generation, so they fake it by manually making every possible seed and hoping no one notices.

recluse and revenant's feet in my mouth at the same time

>>714073732
Are they going to sell revenant dolfies?

>>714067368
I got deathrite bird in the castle once when I had a celebrant's cleaver with sacred order as recluse. With sacred order active every r1 took a MASSIVE chunk off his HP bar, it was fucking amazing how fast he went down.

>>714074273
I should start looking for holy weapons during runs.

>>714074273
The real fun is having Shared Order to buff yourself with, holding a weapon with sacred order active in left hand, and Sacred Blade in main hand. A delicious x1.5 x2 x2 damage bonus, in addition to their natural x1.4 weakness to holy and x1.5 headshot damage. Holy Water pots also have a x4 damage bonus, but this doesn’t stack with sacred blade, but will stack with Sacred Order active in left and right hands simultaneously for same numbers.

If recluse or revenant and happen upon a Seal with ‘Litany of Proper Death’ it does x10 damage to undead.

>>714070854
Suddenly seeing the exact same map layout 2-3 times per session makes sense.

>>714074773
It’s even worse when you realise 20 out of the 40 are shifting earth seeds. Which are incredibly fucking rare unless forced. So 90% of time there’s only 20 possible seeds for each expedition.

>>714074273
Hole weapons are so rare in this game, meanwhile fire weapons just lies everywhere.

>>714075082
Really? I find Bubble-boy cathedrals constantly, which is annoying since the stonesword key chest is so much more out of the way than other cathedrals.

>>714022392
Funny thing is, monster hunter is just people jumping on the monster non stop until it dies. Nightreign NEEDS you to cooperate with others for better or worse. But for the better for the most part.

>>714023457
>>714060609
I really hope they take into account what they've achieved here for their next "main" game for the multiplayer aspects.

>>714027902
tl;dr: marika's cosmic garbage disposal

>>714075082
Holy weapons have to be one of the most common weapon effects in the game, pretty much any church can drop them.
Now lightning is a bitch to find and comes down heavily to rng. Not to mention madness.

>>714070854
>when you realize this means fromsoft purposefully created patterns for bosses WITHOUT the element it's weak to
And yet people will suck their cocks. Holy shit fromsoft is actually more overrated than fucking Kojima

>>714075082
Holy weapons aren't really any less common than any other in my experience.
Holy spells on the other hand basically don't exist.

>>714064384
Wylder can also just fireball la creatura in its dumb fucking face

Love this motherfucker like you wouldn't believe. He's basically Godfrey before he met Marika.

is birdman really that bad or just people don't know how to guard counter

>>714074751
It's fun rolling something like Halo Scythe and headshotting it with Miquella's Rings for thousands of health before it even aggros.
Notably it's just as weak to strike damage as holy, so colossals hammers and fists also fuck it up in record time, even without the buff stack or going for the head.
It drops a ton of runes and its ghostflame attacks also trickle down to lower floors and can kill crucible knights etc down there if you didn't already, it's a very good rooftop boss to roll.

>>714076670
He is good as a tank and revivebot which is less useful the better a party is. His DPS is relatively low as well. He is still decent and useful but other characters are noticeably stronger.

>>714014356 (OP)
I've never beat it. I always get about 50-60 hours in and realize I've only died once or twice to random crap not actual bosses get bored and quit. done that several times. game is way too easy wish it would let me turn up the difficulty

>>714076670
His low damage sticks out more solo, but if you roll tibia mariner guard counter or pick up a powerstance setup for the times you don't need a shield it's still serviceable. Shieldpokes disabling the steel guard reflect blows and should not be a thing.

>>714027902
Radagon beat some bitch ass enemy army and one of them was so pissed he became the night

>S TIER
Raider, Ironeye
>A TIER
Wylder, Duchess
>B TIER
Recluse
>C TIER
Guardian, Executor
>D TIER
Revenant

>>714027902
>eldenring lore proceeds as normal until the shattering war
>Witch coven summoned an eldritch god, probably related to the nox faction in base elden ring.
>Recluse gave birth to baby infested with night and completely ignored it.
>It ended up wiping out several armies worth of dudes
>bunch of people did a golden order sin and got tied to the roundtable hold
>A bunch of other things got empowered infested with night
>they all combined with the baby into the nightlord
>nightlord can either be repulsed from the lands between or the baby can be removed from it and something else can take its place.
>if repulsed you can consider nightrein to be a bubble dimension between the lore of elden ring and the start of elden ring
>alternatively you can consider this a sequel to ranni's ending in base elden ring.

>>714076670
you can no-hit fists-only the whole game so "bad" is a bit hyperbole for a character with a functional kit, but it'd be hard to argue any other character is worse than him
maybe executor but they both have the same problems

>>714078249
This image almost made me believe she was literally called avenger in japanese
Unfortunately shes fukushusha which simply translates to avenger.

>>714014356 (OP)
>reddit ring
zzanzibart...forgive me...

>>714077845
Neither character's forced to commit to guarding if it doesn't fit the situation. Guardian's "problem" is hitting level 15 and functionally being a level 9 Wylder offensively, while everyone else gets to do real damage. It's detrimental for racing the ring, and the longer a Nightlord fight takes the more chances there are for the run to go south. He is at least dealt the best hand for being able to save a group as the last one standing, but he also enables getting to that point more than the rest do.

>>714077845
>but it'd be hard to argue any other character is worse than him
Revenant exists.
>maybe executor
I've never understood this opinion though. Executor doesn't have flashy big damage skills but his kit is solid and he's great at applying bleed, both because of his high ARC and his drop pool giving him an overall much higher chance of innate bleed weapons than any of the rest of the cast, and bleed is still as crazy strong as it was in Elden Ring.

>>714079560
I don't even want to learn executor cause I hate sekiro, but I'm playing base elden ring with a dual katana build so hes fine if I completely ignore his cursed sword.

>>714076626
>140hrs played
>try all the classes
>eventually fall on raider
>ONE game in those 140hrs had three raiders
>everyone jump attacking
>everyone poping the ult together
>everything chain staggered from the constant jump attacking
was by far the funnest game I had

>>714079929

>friend who never plays games with me actually asks to play Nightreign with me
>buy it and we play once
>"Oh this isn't what I thought it was..."
Uninstalled.

>>714070317
Surely they could make at least a couple of emotes/stickers/stamps in the same style they use for character icons and skills. Combination of basic stuff like "Follow", "Here" and "Help" would go a long way.

>>714079978

>>714050115
they could have the fair lady spawn in at half health to heal quelaag and spam chaos pyromancies, it would tie the parasitic eggs in better

>>714076670
Guardian's problem is its the most relic dependent character in the game by a mile.
>increased tornado size, if you try this then don't use it the base tornado feels non existent
>guard draws aggro
>ult heals
>charge attacks cause tornado's which is amazing for nightlords
>shield reflect
>improved guard counter
>blocking heals
>post damage heals
of course we cannot forget about the meta gem below too
>evergoal gives perma damage
>start with keysword
You don't need all of this shit obviously but each one your missing is so noticeable it hurts without it

>>714076670
It's two things.
>Most bird mains are genuinely really bad with him and you will notice a shit bird on your team more than a shit anything else.
>He really is in contention for most undertuned character in the roster even in a good player's hands.
He has both a high execution floor and a low skill ceiling, funny enough.

>>714076670
He's not bad but he can feel very bad if you don't get a good halberd or shield since even in the enhanced guard you can still get knocked a mile away by a lot of boss attacks. I think he's genuinely the best trash mob clearer in the game though, nothing is more efficient than dropping a charged extended tornado on groups on your way to bosses and it adds a lot of runes over the course of a run.

>>714080329
I hate when people say "bird is good with relics" like that magically makes up for everything.
I could slap relics on bird to fix him, yeah, but I can also slap relics on good characters to make them even better.

>>714080816
Hoarfrost Stomp is arguably better. No charge time, longer reach, frost proc ensures kills on nearly every trash mob even at low level and is a valuable debuff for bosses, and unlike tornado you can do two if needed. Theoretically gives you room for a different Guardian effect on the same relic too, but lmao good luck with that.

>>714080829
Oh I also forgot stam on attack relic
>reflect counts as an attack giving stam for each reflect
Bird is good, he just isn't good in all situations for example Heolstor is a chain attack fight, birds reflect DESTROYS Heolstor meanwhile Adel, Baron of Night fucking runs around, does grabs, and aoes most the time, the bird is shit on Adel, Baron of Night.

>>714076626
Raider was first rememberance I did, so I was suddenly extremely excited for the other characters skins. Fucking hell Fromsoft, making some skins isn’t hard, but I’m glad my boy Raider got the only good one.

>>714014356 (OP)
Shazam lost, again.

>>714080329
>charge attacks cause tornado's which is amazing for nightlords
QRD? It seemed to add almost nothing and didn't activate on charged guard counters, so I only ran it once.

>>714046071
>DS1
Ornstein & Smough, Nito, Manus

>DS2
Pursuer, Darklurker, Aldia

>DS3
Vordt, Pontiff, Oceiros

Some personal bias because I want to see some of these bosses with updated models, but I tried to stick to bosses that could have fun gimmicks and/or that would be easier to adapt to a game like Nightreign.

For instance Pursuer's gimmick could be that he randomly invades throughout the day, preferring lone wolf targets when available, with damage carrying over from encounter to encounter. He would have a large health pool, but it would still be theoretically possible to kill him before the final confrontation at night.

>>714049594
Nah he was playing solo with randoms. He was just having a tantrum cause I said no lmao.

fun
wish it had content from the DLC and more dark souls bosses

>>714083639
>wish it had content from the DLC
It's borderline criminal that it doesn't, especially with the hippo of all things getting in anyway.

>>714080225
THE WALL

>>714079023
imagine making fun of reddit while having your posts read like they are procedurally generated

>>714014356 (OP)
surprisingly fun, but definitly lacking in its replayability regarding the map/boss variety (unironically, not enough reused assets from the other games, and how you always get the same bosses pool for each nightlords); multiplayer matchup is badly done (i think they fixed the issues with remembrances but not sure).
the nightlords boss are all very cool and i like all of the nightfarers conceptually.
They should have put a Limgrave, Altus Plateau and Underground map, each with terrain variation. Need more bosses/weapons from Elden Ring dlcs too

>>714085154
I really hope they are working on updates, their formula is surprisingly working but they need to improve it. Especially the bonus rewardes after defeating the boss, I feel like I don't really need most of them and would rather take 10-20k of runes instead. Some of them are very situative or even worthless, like imrpoving dragon or beast incantations.

>mfw using ice storm cocktail right as augur starts releasing jellyfish and killing the entire swarm instantly
Being a mage is wonderful in this game

>>714014356 (OP)
Slop for retarded NPCs

>>714081170
Stomp takes FP and requires holding onto the weapon though while whirlwind is free and is always available, and it stunlocks like everything short of night bosses.

>>714087548
Guardian's tornado with the relic and Executor's beast form roar are also amazing at killing those. Can chunk like 1/5 of his HP with the right positioning

>>714087548
>mfw birdnado every single time he pops them out
>mfw his health bar drops 5%-10% instantly

>>714018353
Me after massacring the gay bar

reminder to eat every bolus you see cause they stack and are permanent buffs

>>714090001
I've heard this but I don't believe it.

>>714090151
It's visible on the status screen. Unless you're fighting a nightlord that uses that status or roll a madness incant, I don't think they're common enough to really matter.

dumb bird

I must have a dozen hours of just playing Duchess under my belt and I still have no idea how her ability works or when I should be using it. I just like being fast and double dodging.

>>714091282
It's designed to be pretty hard to fuck up. It can restage the damage done by bleed/frost procs or criticals, but it can also restage the status buildup or stance damage that leads up to the proc/crit.
The only bad time you can pop it is when a stance break happens but before anyone crits the mob.

>>714091282
You use it after any bleed/frost proc, ultimate, critical hit, or even if people got a lot of damage in cause the boss was stunned.

>>714091282
it reapplies 50% of the damage done in the last few seconds
basically the best option is to use it right after a bleed/frost proc or a critical
but just spamming it as soon as it's available is good

>>714091491
>>714091528
>>714091575
>but just spamming it as soon as it's available is good
I was in fact doing just that, but now I'll be a bleedfag, thanks

Surprisingly good but a bit overpriced. Feels like a solid £20-25 smaller scale spin off. It recycles the cut content of Elden Ring into something thats fun but shockingly feels more like something for fans of Armoured Core than Elden Ring in execution and i didn't get that until i got my hands on it.

I genuinely didn't expect to like it but found myself mostly enjoying it. It still has some issues like how i want runs all weekend on revenant and go 0 relics for her but over 60 for ironeye, maybe some kind of bad luck protection or higher rarities of the gacha at the murk shop like monster hunter talisman/deco cauldrons. Plus i feel like too much of it relies on watching guides on youtube to know things like Duchess seems to be intended to be a spellsword rather than the bloodborne to executors sekiro like people expected at first.

Personally i'd like some characters base on the archetypes that failed in Elden Ring like Madness cultist or Maybe try a Destiny Gambit style mode where 6 players load in and can pvp to slow each others progress as only one can kill the nightlord?

>>714044513
>wins by doing nothing

>>714088583
What else are you using your FP for? It's pretty cheap anyway, you'll likely pass a grace by the time you run out unless you're stomping everything in a fort at lv2. Having to keep the starting weapon can be inconvenient sometimes, but it speeds up the early game and anyone but Ironeye and Recluse can use the relic. In coop someone might pick your weapon up and take over on stomping anyway.

>>714046071
Allant and Pursuer would make me cum. Artorias would be great as well. Add Gael in as a surprise wildcard Nightlord or something idk

>>714048118
It's fun and hits that 40-50 minute sweet spot of game time so that it doesn't feel too quick to matter and also doesn't overstay its welcome. Oddly enough that's about how long MOBA matches.

One thing I notice about these games is the enemies don't even throw out very many hitboxes. For the most part they just stand around damage sponging. Half their attacks are easily avoided or nonthreatening to begin with. When they actually throw out a threatening attack once every 25 seconds, the player will spam dodgeroll and heal, while cursing how unfair it is.

You can add one enemy, not boss, enemy from a past game into the world without telling the players.

Who do you pick?

>>714092648
Divine beast warrior

>>714092648
Headless.

>>714092648
Anyone who says anything but Mimic is wrong.
That said, Bonewheels.

>>714092898
>Bonewheels
>Out clearing random camps
>Hear that warthog mariachi music from red vs blue
>"Where is that god damn music coming fro-"
>30 bonewheels at once from over the hill.

They do move in herds...

Does the goal buff relic increase all damage or just weapon damage?

>>714092648
Bonewheel skeletons.

>>714092506
is there ever a time ironjar is worth using

>>714093032
All damage.

>>714093135
shit negro, so it is good even on casters?

>>714093317
Yep. It's good for everyone.

>>714076670
he is so fucking bad against adel grapple attacks