SKG
https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home

>>714023450 (OP)
Most EU anons are going to sleep.

inb4 this thread gets raided again

>>714023450 (OP)
>I want LESS freedom
Why are euros like this?

Thor is going to win and there's nothing you retards can do about it lol

Sign it!
And tell your friends and family!

>>714023732
Jason you okay? Speaking in third person again.

>>714023830
>Sign it!
I did just now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIfRLujXtUo
Watch this video if you don't understand what the petition is about. It needs 400,000 more signatures.

Game companies kill 70 percent of online games:

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/70-of-games-with-online-requirements-are-doomed-according-to-stop-killing-games-survey

This law would fight the trend, and is basically a "right to repair" law that would require companies to put games into a playable state for customers one last time after they stop supporting them. This would make it easier for gamers to preserve video games, or to host private servers, or to play games over LAN. It'll be like in the good old 90s BEFORE ENSHITIFICATION.

Things aren't fine. Don't listen to the naysayers.

>Germany was just under 100,000 a few days ago
>Now over 140,000
Based krauts.

I signed it the first day the initiative got made
Why are people so fucking slow to respond?

>>714023830
but some streamer told me that this is a waste of time and it's just bullshit. then screamed at chat saying anyone who signs it is a dumbass sheep then he ran away leaving his teammates to die in a hardcore raid.

sorry, can't sign it.

>EULAs INFORMING BUYERS THAT GAMES MIGHT NOT LAST FOREVER ARE INVALID
>why are they invalid?
>>BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE PURCHASE WHAT WAS IN THE CONTRACT
>ummm... you could have easily found that information, and after purchase you could get a refund if you didn't agree to the contract...
>>ARE YOU A SHILL? WHY ARE YOU HOLDING ME TO THE THINGS I SAID?

Why would anybody support such a dishonest movement? Especially when the goal is to hand control to government censors?

>>714024024
Fake and obvious corporate backlash is actually pushing more people to sign now lol

>>714023450 (OP)
You fuckers know what's coming if you vote for this petition right? You know the consequences of inviting the government to intervene in the video games, knowing full well and probably lived through the 90s to 2000s where it was full of paranoid and delusional old men trying to dictate the rules and censor the fuck out of everything right? This is going to be even worse than that because now you have those same old men who now see the monetary incentive to fuck shit up and you fuckers are straight up kicking and screaming to come save you.

This won't be the government salvation you guys are hoping for, this won't even be the corpo vs government clash either, this will come entirely at your expense. They WILL fuck your shit up, anyone that has been around long enough knows not to trust the government and it's appalling to me that none of you can see Ross as the glowie that he clearly is. Why else would he go to such lengths to push this shit and throw on a full mask under the guise of caring for destroyed games? Why else has there been such a massive outbreak of supposed ecelebs throwing their weight into this all of the sudden when the natural response was to veer as far away as possible from this clear glowie psy op? They know now that they can get some headway and they've been going into overdrive to push for this and you idiots are falling for it.

If there's any among you that still possesses a brain, I implore you to not sign this shit. Don't give it attention, don't give it any time of day. This shit has so many malicious layers to it that it would be wise to not interact with it at all, and to say nothing on the long term ramifications against the average consciousness should it go through. Do you really believe that you aren't throwing away your personal information for the government to "leak away" in a year's time when this is over?

>>714024232
>fear mongering
It's afraid

Stop. Killing. Games.

>>714024349
god I wish that was me

Let's save some time and address all the shill/Jasonfag non-arguments ahead of time, shall we?

>"IT'S BAD TO LET THE GUBMINT INTERFERE WITH GAMES"
Governments have been directly interfering with the content of video games for decades with arbitrary censoring and other bullshit at the behest of moral busybodies, and corpos have been lobbying to try and make lootboxes not count as gambling for years as well. People who hate vidya or are anti-consumer have been using government as a tool to fuck over vidya, so how is it wrong for the consumers to petition the government to do something good for vidya for once?

>"IT'S TOO VAGUELY WORDED"
Vague is good, it allows negotiation of the finer points without forcing all publishers to do too much too quickly. On the central points of game preservation, the petition is perfectly clear.

>"IT'S GONNA FUCK OVER THE LITTLE DEVS"
Aside from the fact that this is aimed only at games which are judged to be non-profitable anyway, if you have the funds to publish a live service game, you should have the funds to account for an end of service plan, simple as. Nobody's making anyone create an always online game.

>"IT ONLY AFFECTS LIVE SERVICE GAMES"
Many single-player games are becoming always online in some capacity, both new and old.

>"B-B-BUT WHAT IF I PIRATE"
Denuvo plus tech aging out means that it will become harder and harder to play old games the way you once did.

>"B-B-B-BUT I DON'T CARE ABOUT THOSE GAMES"
Sooner or later it WILL affect a game that you do care about. Even if you quit vidya entirely, it's still wrong to allow it to happen to others.

>>714024349
This but uniroinically

>>714023664
mod already deleted the last thread

Stop.

>>714024081
sorry your boss's boss's boss might make 5% less profit per year, but it has to be done in return for incalculable consumer benefit
You have no idea how unappreciated your shilling is. Your superiors think you're a fucking retard, which you are.

>>714023950
>Game companies kill 70 percent of online games
If they could they'd kill 100%. The SKG wiki even has a list of videogames that were killed.
https://stopkillinggames.wiki.gg/wiki/Dead_game_list
and here is a list of dead MMOs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Inactive_massively_multiplayer_online_games

Killing.

>>714024461
>Governments have been directly interfering with the content of video games for decades with arbitrary censoring and other bullshit at the behest of moral busybodies
Yes! This is what I am against!
>corpos have been lobbying
>corpos
Oh, I'm talking to a child. Never mind.

>>714024461
>Vague is good, it allows negotiation of the finer points without forcing all publishers to do too much too quickly. On the central points of game preservation, the petition is perfectly clear.
This is a point that I am shocked that gets ignored all the time. It's an olive branch and good will towards game devs/publishers to say "We are willing to compromise on how it happens, as long as it does happen".

Games.

>>714024232
When you were in law school did you ever imagine you would be paid minimum wage to write pro-copo arguments for Ubisoft on a Mongolian image board?

Great, they are trying to derail and nuke the thread again.

Stop killing games.

Data mining thread for the fucking EUSSR you fucking goofs

>>714024743
I hope they like to datamine big and hung ecker bears then.

>>714024743
There aint shit in the petition that the EU doesnt know about you already dumb-dumb.

I support SKG (Stop Killing Games).

>SKG shills are so BTFO that they started spamming the thread with gay porn
kek

>>714023732
>Maldavius Figtree

>>714024867
piratecuckware fans are pretty weird indeed

Every game, no matter how shitty, and no matter if zero people play it anymore, should live forever. It's about preserving art and history.

Stop. Killing. Games.

>only 200 signatures today
It's over

>Pizza
>Pedo statistics
>And now fat naked men
They really don't want people to talk about this.

BROS? W-W-WERE GONNA MAKE IT RIGHT????

Just stop killing games. It's easy.

>>714025002
euros are asleep

>>714025002
>>714025036
Who are these people at midnight who said
>Eh fuck it, I'll sign this petition
?

Stop. Killing. Games.

>714024349
>714024508
>714024606
>714024663
>714024742
>714024841
>714024945
>714025064
IT'S AFRAID

>>714025118
Me kek

>>714025118
It got like 2-4k signatures during 02:00-05:00 yesterday

>SKGay shills are literal faggots
KKKEEEEEEEEKKKK

Stop killing games right now.

>>714024615
>"CORPOS HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING WRONG EVER"
lol

>>714024559
>Kingdom Under Fire II is dead
Wait i don't even remember the game coming out when did it die?

This board is a fucking insane asylum.

>>714025327
What you're seeing is controlled opposition

Dead games make gamer grandpas sad. Stop killing games.

(((THEY'RE))) AFRAID, KEEP IT UP BOYOS, THE SHILLS ARE IN FULL MELTDOWN, CAN'T STOP THE MOLD TRAIN

>>714024081
your shitty EULAs are not valid. you can't pretend you're selling something that can get taken away whenever you feel like it. either make it last forever or put a tentative end date.

>>714025327
yes, skg fags are mentally ill

Stop. Killing. Games.

With it being a monday and a work day, do you think the day signatures are going to slow down? I think so, but we'll have to see if it affects the entire day's worth of sigs.

>>714024081
>EULA says they can kill your dog
>buy game
>they kill your dog

>>714023934
you know that there are algorithms to unblur blurred section of an image. better off using some 100% opacity black or just delete it entirely.

for you safety anon.

>>714025207
Go to sleep.

Never have I seen a more black and white issue. Customers PAY to play a game, then companies after X amount of years shut down the game, preventing customers from having access to something they payed for.
What kind of low down, mouth breathing, cock sucking corpo cuck do you have to be to be against this?
I pray that 100% of this backlash is coming from either corpo shills or trolls looking for some (you)s. Anyone who unironically believes that this practice is okay needs to have their internet shut off.

>it's getting deleted
rare janny W

Stop killing games.

Reminder that industry shills will post anything from gore to porn to CP to get SKG threads shut down

anti SKG shills in full force today

a reminder that most people supporting SKG are browns
thor won

Why are the jeets spamming gay porn?

>>714024081
I like how you think as long as you write something in eula, it magically makes it legal.

It's like that cannibal who made his victim sign a contract that he agrees to be killed and thought he has his bases covered.

>>714025603
I both love and hate how schizophrenic the jannies are. You can't tell if they are going to be based or be idiots.

>>714025572
Agreed. They have to stop killing games. Anybody who disagrees should be punished by the government.

>>714025557
I can't some shitheads are playing loud music outside

>>714025652
better than cp

>>714024232
>probably lived through the 90s to 2000s where it was full of paranoid and delusional old men trying to dictate the rules and censor the fuck out of everything right
Now corporate executives and paid shills are censoring games. And as a bonus they are trying to squeeze as much money oit of you as possible.
>big bad gobernment
Better a big government than powerful corporations. Any chance to punch them in the balls is a good thing.

>Pizza
THEY'RE AFRAID

>>714023934
Nice work, king

africans are subhuman niggers you are all nigger refugees from your shitty war torn nations of apefrica

Dead petition
if a game sells 1 million copies across the all world its considered a major success
you wont get 1 million just from the EU

>corpo shills are posting porn while mods are nuking the threads to /pol/
rule no.1 no vidya talk on /v/?

Stop killing games.

>>714025276
>we could have had this game preserved with private servers if SKG existed before the game died
Is there no way to make this retroactive? So we could bring Darkspore, KuF II and other games that were already killed?

why do the pajeets keep dumping cp? it's disgusting

STOP POSTING CP SHITHEADS

can we say it out loud?
APEFRICANS. ARE. SUBHUMAN.
oh wait, most SKG SUPPORTERS ARE NIGGERS!

Stop. Killing. Games. Or. Else.

>>714025778
>across the all world
GOOD MORNING SAAAR

I wanted to kill games. But I’ve had a change of heart. I’m a reformed villain who will SAVE games now.

65% with more than a month to go.
:)

>>714025118
obviously they are fake

Your efforts are futile shills. We'll just make another stop killing vidya thread even if this one gets pruned.

>>714025327
yep its like a cult

>>714025920
you had a year to get to 65%

>>714025965
I wonder what IPs are the next to get rangebanned.

just need more streamers to get on this
someone tell pewds to get off his ass and do something

With shit like that getting posted to try and shut down the discussion, are we meant to think we're in the wrong?

anyone got the chart showing sigs per day over time?
seems like it might be holding this 30k per day

It's insane how rattled the pajeets are. they really want these SKG gone.

>>714025619
Of course they will.

CAN'T STOP THE MOLDMAN

>spamming CP to tarnish the anti-skg movement reputation
skg cultist are truly the lowest

>>714026043
If the mods were based they would rangeban india and israel

I wonder if they're purposely doing this to make people more engaged/invested in it

>>714026043
it dosent matter when its vidya butts poster making some of these threads

>>714026068
https://stopkillinggamestracker.pages.dev/datahistory

Counter argument: people that play live service games deserve to suffer and be scammed.

>>714026062
It's most likely just autistic third worlders who are triggered that their thousandth gatcha/coomer thread is getting the spotlight taken from them by an actual, productive gaming movement.
That, and corpo shills.

>one person that reached out to me was actually a moderator of the politics subreddit so i'd be invited on there for a possible reddit ask me anything
Rossbros...

>>714026139
Things would get really slow and quiet if they did that. I guarantee it.

>>714026134
why would SKG supporters post pics that get their own threads purged you stupid retard?

>>714026173
Maybe, but if we let the industry go this way, there will only be live service games left.

>>714026220
>skg are reddit commies
as always

>>714026068
https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2024/000007_en
>https://stopkillinggamestracker.pages.dev/

>>714026068
It was aroubd 25k today. We'll probably still get over 20k for the next couple days but things are definitely slowing down.

>>714026098
thank you kind memer, I shall preserve this meme

>>714025778
It got to 650k without any marketing or paid campaign, you smelly nigger. All it needs is to be covered by few major youtubers. If pewdiepie made a video, it would reach 1 million in 3 days.

>>714026238
did you know what a false flag is or are you a gigaretard?

>>714026043
Residential IPs are plentiful. Add in auto captcha and email verification and it's not hard to create your own personal unstoppable shitpost bot for very cheap. That's how ecker pedos, vidya butts, shills etc. spam the board while jannies are powerless to stop them.

Who specifically are killing video games?
Where are they from?

>>714026269
True. Making it so that it's a pain to make live service games would discourage companies from making them in the first place.

>>714026401
israel

>>714026358
No falseflagger would work to hurt the actual side he's on you stupid fucking anti-SKG

>>714026397
>email verification
The hack was 2 months ago, do you not remember?

>>714026401
rosstards want to kill all of our gammies

>>714026172
>it's slowing

>>714026401
Corpos looking to squeeze GAMERS of our money

>>714026353
THIS! Its an actual movement from actual people that arent paying in millions advertise it.

>>714026220
>>714026279
Toss has said on multiple occasions any discourse or topics posted there got deleted constantly so he figured there was foul play

if a slew of unfunny retarded redditors that didnt get the memo would see that and sign i'm all for it

>>714026450
he is obviously a skgtard false flagging to depict us as bad, getting the thread pruned doesn't matter to him

>>714026492
If it ends up looking like the first month's trend then it isn't over fellow chud

>>714026463
don't you have to verify or wait a few minutes before posting? email verification bots do bypass this and post instantly. or is there no verification now?

> you should ask everyone to use an official, you know, hashtag stopkilling games on twitter on a specific day
>if it becomes trending it means tens of millions of people will be exposed to it
>name a specific day for everyone to start so it's more likely to become trending, and he he gives an example of july 6
Here we go again.

>>714026528
no content available means they didn't specify retard, for all we know ross could have invested 1 billion euros into it

>>714026620
>y-you see I'm not arguing in bad faith. the person who posted CP was clearly on the side of the initiative. because clearly the best way to help SKG is to get SKG threads nuked
kill yourself

Reminder to companies that taking away my vidya violates the NAP, so I get to nuke your property.

>>714026139
>every time Israel gets bombed or whatever the constant BBC spam on every board plummets dramatically
really makes you think

Sign it or you’ll be turned gay at the stroke of midnight

>>714025118
Hello :)

>>714026401
Check the Stop Killing Games wiki and there you can see the publisher that killed the game >>714024559

>>714026173
Okay but I still want big corpo to suffer so it's still the best

>>714026901
Your only argument is that you were too lazy to read the EULA. You want to be treated like a retarded child by the government.

>>714026851
+1, shills have less than room temperature IQ. Anyhow, "Signatures today: +26,822", i dont think it will reach 30k before end of today however momentum is still good.

>>714026976
Does it have any early life info?

>>714026851
why would someone take a side and then spam cp then? he could have just spammed cp without saying anything and in that case you could have been right, but the fact he said anti-skg stuff as well its a classical example of spamming cp to make a community look bad, btw its a typical reddit tactic

>>714026173
those retards' poor choices lead to more games turning into live-service slop, which affects me, ergo it's in my and those retards' best interest to stop corpos from ripping retards off

>>714026172
>>714026492
I think it will pick up traction again next week since its starting to reach bigger names like gamersnexus, where it might spiral out. I've also seen a few EUtubers cover it but so far its only been Germany and Spain.
If it doesnt... well shit. Only remains to hope it stays above the daily average.

>>714027138
You mean about the games? You shoudl check the game's specific wiki for that. This wiki is only for games that got killed by their publisher, games that were saved by the gaming community and games that might get killed at a future point in time.

>Ross endorses Tyler McNigger
Oh no bros...

>>714027138
Not like you really need to.

>>714023450 (OP)
Sorry but Ukraine lost.
We are locked into a bad timeline and this winning would thwart that trend.

did you see? the argument was
>we just want to save online videogames from death
now it changed to
>we want live service games to die, just die die die
moving the goalpost, typical move from lgbt shitters

>>714024081
Thor go fuck your ferrets

>>714027452
>we want live service games to die
based, signing it now

Behold, the whitest countries.

>>714024559
>Pro Evolution Soccer
Does anyone actually want servers for ps2 games that are playable offline?

>>714027452
>>we want live service games to die
no one said this
stop killing games. let people continue to play
don't take away the things they bought
you have no right to pull the rug and force people to "move on"

>>714027556
how are finns so fucking based?

>>714027583
half of the people here are saying that in this very thread

>>714027087
Legally, EULA is worth about as much as toilet paper

Does anybody have that message/email from Diablo 4 publisher seethe at gamers still playing Diablo 2 instead of their new shitty viday?

>>714027452
CAN'T STOP THE MOLD

>>714025619
I've never seen gore or CP here on /v/ except possibly during the summer game fest when Pragmata was shown. Very strange posters they must be.

>>714027674
/v/ hates live service games? Must be a day that ends in 'y'. Still doesn't change the fact that the petition isn't about that.

>>714024081
HEY EVERYONE THIS GUY AINT ONE OF US HE SAID HE'D FUCK A FERRET

NOW WHO'S STUPID YOU DIRTY FERRET FUCKEEEEEERRRRRRRR

>>714026528
>that arent paying in millions advertise it.
hey my graph lol. finally someone understood it. i've had some ask me what this was lol
that Fur fucking thing is also the only thing that passed the process since 2022. that's what the 'answered initiative' filter means
>fur
the fucking absolute fucking irony

>>714027658
Drinking and Sauna, mixed with Moomins and shitposting.

There doesn't yet exist any game worth playing that cannot be played because companies decided so. This only affects absolute trash games.

If the rumors about switch 2 are true then all games on it cannot be played if Nintendo decides to do so. I see a much bigger problem with that.

>>714023450 (OP)
My view on this is that this, and every other fight for pro-consumer laws, is basically a cop out.

Companies are spending almost billions per year lobbying the government for laws that support them and make it harder for new competitors to pop up. This directly allows them to pull more bullshit like for example making products that break more easily, since they have no competition. Stopping this seems impossible so we ask for pro-consumer laws instead.
Surely there would be more competition if new companies weren't screwed?

>>714027941
>This only affects absolute trash games.
Irrelevant, if i buy something you should not be able to take it away

>>714027556
I'm glad little Estonia made it

>>714027941
but there are people that like even absolute trash games and if they want to play them they should be able to

Hall of Shame, absolutely horrendous per capita signatures

>>714024232
I like how you guys constantly scream
>MUH CENSORSHIP
Like the videogame Industry hasn't been doing a good job on its own without the government
Newsflash, games are already being censored so we won't be losing that

>>714028020
>if i buy something you should not be able to take it away
Good luck reverse engineering databases for mmos.

>>714027693
wrong, especially in this case

What the fuck is wrong with Italy and Greece, bros?

WOOHOOO BARBOSABROS WE FUCKING MADE IT. 12TH COUNTRY TO MAKE IT TO THE THRESHOLD. 16TH HIGHEST COUNTRY IN SIGNATURES PER CAPITA!!!

>>714027556
>>714028162
>new whiteness map

>>714028162
Italy is a based country it will never sign the petition and i will never do as well (i'm italian)

>>714024461
>it's still wrong to allow it to happen to others.
I don't understand why many anons here are so against of doing a thing that helps others more than yourself. I wonder if it's parenting thing or culture of their country.

>>714028219
why would i have to reverse engineer it, when it will be on to the devs to release everything needed?

>>714028162
Pasta bros, which youtuber do we need to start pestering to finally bring some attention to this?

>>714028020
>>714028136
I'm more speaking from a perspective why this is receiving a lukewarm response around the world. Of course it's better to make a point now before any actual good game is potentially affected. It's just that the population behaves reactionary so we will probably have to wait for any real change when the first real damage is done like with the Switch 2.

>>714028305
Not happening, especially for dead games and studios.

I made a 100% scientific projection.
Whatever happens it's going to be close. Keep in mind we need an extra 10 or 20% to account for rejected signatures.

>>714027783
corpo shill pajeets have posted cp in this very thread. pic related
>inb4 proof?
I'm not going to get myself v& you fucking retard mongoloid

>>714027941
>There doesn't yet exist any game worth playing that cannot be played because companies decided so.
So we should wait until there are?

Please tell me exactly how many great games need to be completely lost before you decide it's time to do something about it.

>>714028390
Lol so they get sued and lose even more money? Are you retarded?

>>714024232
>Kill games for pennies on the dollar
>Consumers have to petition the government to stop this
No matter how you cut it this is corpo's fault

>>714027941
>There doesn't yet exist any game worth playing that cannot be played because companies decided so.
the initiative isn't retroactive, it's about future games
so...your post is irrelevant and misinformed
sorry sweetie

>>714027996
>"in an IDEAL world, here's what I think we should do..."
yeah that's cool and all but companies are working to erase your favourite games RIGHT NOW so you can either work to stop them or you can be a faggot.

>>714028290
Petition to make American Pizza the defacto Pizza and force the shitalians to have to their """"pizza"""" as "It's-a Me, Italian Poverty Diskio"s

>>714023728
Eternal cucks

>>714028253
>at the bottom there are small tiny poor countries.....and Italy

>>714028162
Take Pizza away and italians literally have no presence in the world left. Absolutely irrelevant country. Did they even do anything in WW2? Their biggest presence is being in the axis but no one even gives a fuck, they have left no mark in history.

>>714028524
>sue a studio that doesn't exist
>the new ip owners will hand everything over to you
You're delusional. This is why I'll never sign your petition.

>>714028603
Hey come on man, a good italian pizza is mindblowing.
That said though, the chicago style pizza is a pretty good invention of the yanks.

>>714028253
Italy, come on.. You are one of the 5 biggest countries in the EU

I signed it when it started, now I got the wife to sign it and my friend and I'm also telling my best man and sister to do and they probably will. I'm also talking about it to anyone I could get to sign. Lets fucking goooo /v/ros

>>714028410
barely 800 today, pretty sure it's over

>>714028295
Deep down they recognize that they're slaves, and will seek to avoid their master's whip. Standing up for their own rights makes them deeply afraid, but they can't admit it to themselves so they invent this nonsense to try and justify why actually doing nothing at all is somehow the most morally correct response in any given situation.

>>714028516
Yeah this is how it works. There has never been any real change coming without sacrifice.
>>714028573
That's irrelevant. No one cares because nothing of value has been lost.

she loves
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAVNxAVal1U
Game Preservation Crisis: The Stop Killing Games Movement Explained -
OliveBadger - 681 subscribers 8.9K views 2 days ago
>actually codes
unlike...

>>714028669
>doesnt exist
Are you one of those dumb niggers who think this is retroactive, when this only applies to new games? Wait scratch that the fact you won't sign already tells me you are retarded but are you even more retarded?

italian don't play games (that is not fifa i mean) and Fifa players already know their game don't lasts more than a year

>>714028729
I signed and got my brother and friends to sign 10 months ago. Unfortunately I'm all spent at this point. Finish the fight for me.

>>714023450 (OP)
If we keep the same momentum, we could reach the goal even in 12 days. Then we keep voting to counter the few invalid votes.

If you already signed a year ago, get your parents involved as I did.

>>714023934
Your parents will help their beloved son!

>>714028253
is this the English proficiency ranking in Europe?

>>714028598
The people who are against this petition are also against modding video games for fun. Because they're cucks and "YOU SHOULDN'T OWN YOUR GAME! ONLY THE CORPO THAT WANTS TO SHUT IT DOWN AND DELETE ITS EXISTANCE HAS THE RIGHT TO TOUCH IT!"

>>714028770
so we can't make it?

>>714028669
>I'll never sign your petition.
found the ubicuck

>>714028784
>having women as supporters
not a good look

Italy is the mexico of europe. Just a bunch of cock sucking niggers sucking the cock of low life criminals.

>>714028797
I'm looking at your wiki, dumbass. See>>714024559
>>714028884
>you like ubishit because you just do

>>714028874
it got like 150k signatures in the past 5 days, its very possible to make it, ignore the doomers

>>714028919
I'm trying my best to get people to sign...

>>714028858
no. croatia has better english than poland. spain is nowhere near that high.
austria is very likely above France

>>714023450 (OP)
Why did this whole thing got some steam again? last time I checked it was around the 400k mark and pretty much dead in the water. What happened?

>>714028953
The wiki says nothing about forced to support already dead games you fucking moron, LOL why the fuck did your stupid ass even before responding if your getting wrong.

>>714028778
>There has never been any real change coming without sacrifice.
OK schizo, what else do the magic crystals tell you? On what date will the constellations perfectly align to bless a petition with good fortune?

You either fight for a cause or you don't. Sitting on your ass and being too much of a bitch to even sign your name on a piece of paper because "um people haven't suffered enough for something to happen" isn't being wise, it's you making excuses for being a cowardly fatass.

>>714028253
>256.74%
As aggspegdett :DDDD

>>714028896
but she's making the game fist...

>>714028770
>>714028874
Is this kind of chart even useful? The sudden burst of signatures it just got was from streamers picking it up and shitting on PirateSoftware. That's not a slow incremental increase, and its arbitrary.

>>714029036
The guy heading the movement decided to put out a video basically saying "If this is going to fail, it is going to fail with correct information" and responded to a guy who 10 months ago misrepresented the whole thing. Same guy is easy dramaslop bait so once Cr1tikal got a hold of it, the dramaslop mill started doing its' thing.

>>714029054
So where does it say that it's only about preserving at risk titles on your legend?

You guys realize that once the petition is reached the signs will more accurately get checked for legitimacy and a good 10% of signs will get lost in the process? If the goal won't get overshot by a comfortable margin you can kiss this shit goodbye.

>>714029036
Moldman returned to bless us and smite the false prophet Jason the Ferret Fucker.

>>714029036
dramamill, its quite undervalued

>>714028770
I think the site is fucked because when I woke up this morning it is was 645k, now it's 653k. That's 8,000.

>>714029207
That's why i hope we overshoot the 1 million.

>>714029036
>>714029150
People procrastinated and then a half dozen Youtubers covered it and awoke the gamers. Some big names like GamerNexus and Destiny just covered it.

>>714029059
Fighting against hot air since I'm not arguing against the petition, just discussing why no one gives a fuck.

>>714029269
It clicks over back to 0 at midnight in Europe.

>>714028253
>What the fuck is wrong with Italy and Greece, bros?
>Greece
I'M FUCKING TRYING /V/ROS. Nuke us if we don't make it

>>714029207
considering the people we are talking about here more like 40%

>>714029269
yeah but things aren't over after 1 million. god knows how many signatures they'll try declaring as invalid

>>714029269
The joke is that it's going by UK time, anon. It's only been an hour.

>>714029160
Yes at risk titles, that are up and running now, dumbass... I cannot imagine how stupid you would have to be posting in that thread, completely clueless what its about. Let me guess your also brown.

>>714029349
Nah, we'll let you guys pay off your debts first, THEN we'll nuke you.

>>714029269
I'm refreshing this page and it seems to be going up
https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home

today i'm proud of being italian, get fucked losers

>>714029381
Where does it say that you're preserving those on your legend? Why even include dead games? I know why, it's just a meme for youtube views.

>>714029337
That makes sense. That means in an hour we've gotten nearly 1,000 signatures which is alright.

>>714029454
come fight me MALAKA
corporate bootlicker

>>714029454
>be italian born overseas
>vote on initiative anyway
feels delightfully devilish

This shit will reach one million signs on the final three days alone. People love to sign last minute.

>>714029036
An idiot got called out on the extreme misinformation he made, then a popular youtuber talked of it too, amplifying the wave.
We gained 200.000 signatures in like 6 days, and we need 350.000 still, before 31 days.

>>714028253
>Nearly 1 in 200 people from Finland have signed this.
I-is that true? Those fags aren't faking this shit, are they?

>>714029423
i think some admins sure as hell are weirded out by the amount of traffic those pages are getting

>>714029454
One of those votes is mine :)

>Stop killing games? No, I don't think I will

>>714029580
Finns are the most powerful race on Earth.

>>714029104
Based hyper-white Finland

>>714029549
That would require someone with influence on social platforms to get that final push.

>>714029580
spurdos are hard carrying this shit as if it was a dota match. Anyways, realistically speaking what are the chances we could get someone with a big audience to promote the petition? I'm talking musicians and stuff from each country

>>714029680
People will need to see if they could get in contact with the southern YTbers

>>714029680
Portugalbros, we're whiter than Spain and France... We did it.

>>714029690
The perfect european would be Pewdiepie... But I don't think he would ever help.

>>714029580
a little bit more than 1 in 200 people has aids so it isn't that much.

>>714029680
>Northern countries have the better per capita results
Hmmmm....

>>714029575
That pirate software fag is the most obvious fraud if you work in IT, his whole audience must be 15 year old redditors

>>714029580
>ultra autistic nation
>general scandinavian soc/dem pro-consumer values
no surprises they actually care about video games.

>>714029580
we already have laws in our country that effectively achieve what this movement is trying to do
there is no reason for us to not let other EU countries have the same rights that we already enjoy

>>714029580
>he missed the first finngolian korean hyperwar
the finnish lion rapes the small corporate dog when it barks

>>714023728
>>714023732
>>714024081
>>714024232
>>714024615
>>714024743
>>714025002
>>714025036
>>714025778
KILL SHILLS. BEHEAD SHILLS. GAS SHILLS. THE LOUDER THEY SCREAM, THE MORE SCARED THEY ARE. PLAYERS WON. KIKES LOST.

>>714029784
Hyper boreantugal

>>714029680
Can someone explain the implications of this to a legal retard?

So if this actually gets all the signatures it needs, then what? Or is it like a change.org petition where it's just thoughts and prayers

>>714029580
finns are based

>>714030106
it's the whiteness map. the more blue, the better
the bluer the country, the more signatures.

>>714028162
I'm not putting my name on a thing. It's very much unlike me to do such a thing.

>>714030130
The idea is that once it gets 1 million signatures, it'll be put in front of the EU's gubmint and they'd debate the issue. Something will actually be done unlike a change.org petition, but it doesn't mean any laws will actually be put in place.

>>714025778
We got 200k in 6 days. We have 31 days to get 350k. Seethe more Thorfag.

>>714030160
(signatures per capita)

>>714029649
god. he's so sophisticated. i could never

>>714030160
*more signatures per capita.
In terms of raw numbers the germans are killing it.

>>714030130
EU has to take it up if it gives 1m signatures

>>714029959
Right, because all the games that cannot be played in the rest of the world can be played in Finland still.

>>714030130
It's a citizen's initiative, which actually means something unlike a petition
Basically a legal backdoor that has trouble getting a million signatures for anything because people are generally apathetic
Parliament will be forced to look at and consider it and decide the best course of action, though that course of action may very well be
>lol you don't have any rights, fuck off
hopeful they'll draw up some simple laws regarding it because right now there aren't any

>>714029680
>finland
>white

>>714026397
>>714026681
Dumb aquaposter

>>714030291
>31 days to get 350k
and more, because they'll obviously claim some signatures are invalid

>>714030328
Of course the raw signatures are important, but too see how virtuous (or white) a population is, you have to see the signatures per capita.

>>714030416
Nah, if you try signing twice or with some bullshit address you get a message that either you signed already or that it was invalid. Fingers crossed if we hit a million it will be the real number

>>714030351
There's definitely the possibility this results in nothing even with a million signatures, but Europe is the best bet for this sort of pro-consumer stuff.

>>714029454
35k, not bad. If only the FIFAnormies could be reached.
Not like they would care, considering they buy the same game every year.

>>714030593
if FIFA were threatened at all we'd already be at 100 million signatures easy

>>714030593
if I played live service slop I'd be really pissed about my purchases going poof

>>714030512
>how virtuous (or white)
It's the terminally online map. Make sense that the Finns would need something to do during winter besides sauna and alcoholism.

>>714030593
If we get the FIFAnormies, maybe Italy manages to become whiter than Finland

This has probably been answered before, but why would this actually change anything?
I'd love for live service games to just kill themselves forever, but even in the best case scenario and the EU parliament puts through some regulations, why would that even change anything?
For example, I live in an EU country and there are clear laws regarding refunds, but that doesn't matter for Steam games because they just have you agree to cede those rights when buying their games.
Maybe I am really stupid and pessimistic, but I have seen so many of these kind of petitions over the 20 or so years I've spent on the internet.

>Movement intended to allow consumers the right to the thing they buy for life
>Insects crawling out the woodwork to defend multi billion dollar corpos
>Even resort to spamming gay porn, gore, and pizza to nuke threads
What causes such sickness of the soul?
Even IF the movement specified <Never turn off the server> It doesn't
It would kill shitty live service games or allow a spring for community servers. What is the downside?

>>714024081
>Get a eula
>Add my own clause that if I play the game, the publisher owns me 1 million dollars
>NOOOO, NOT LIKE THAT, YOU CANT JUST ADD SHIT
>Sorry, you should have read it, I did before I signed it, you own me a million dollars.

Eulas are fucking bullshit and should have NEVER existed.

I can't sign the petition being American but I hope you Euro bros can manage it for all gamers.

>>714030794
if this pass its a first step to killing live service slop for good

>>714030725
>Finns would need something to do during winter besides sauna and alcoholism.

That's plenty enough

I like the idea of SKG, however I have a question based on a situation that could reasonably happen.
Let's say an MMO reached end-of-life and the dev team released their server side files to the public. As with all MMO's, the game client's anti-cheat had been cracked for awhile. Someone decides to create an unofficial environment shortly after the end-of-life announcement. For example, see WoW's Warden anti-cheat being cracked on 1.12.1, 2.4.3, and 3.3.5a clients which allows for RCE (remote code execution).
After a year of good will, the project is transferred owners and the new owner decides to run the RCE exploit and phish hundreds of thousands player's browser cookies, passwords, and install malware on a mass scale. How will situations like this be prevented?
The average person isn't going to have the savvy to run things in a VM, nor even know what the hell I just typed. This is just 1 example of many I can think of.

>>714027658
powerful mongol warrior blood

>>714030797
Buying shills to come brigade this thread is probably more expensive than making games offline play compatible.

>>714030794
Didn't refunds on Steam get added explicitly because of laws in one area? I don't remember if it was EU or Australia. The reason why we can now decline cookies on all websites is because of EU. It's not as simple as just ignoring the laws.

>>714030903
I'd say that scam software and servers would be dealt with like any other scam software or servers with law enforcement.

>>714023450 (OP)
>asks for name and address
So what's there stopping me from signing up all my neighbors?

>>714030903
simple, you put a warning message on the end of the game's life that says
WARNING: PLAY NOW AT YOUR OWN RISK

>>714030794
It used to be that you couldn't refund Steam games, but then Australia sued and now you have a two hour of gameplay refund policy. I see this petition as the beginning and the first step toward making game preservation the law. Not everything will be saved, but we can build on this and save a lot more games.

What time on July 2nd is the hashtag thing starting again?

Is there a FAQ for that or something?

>>714031054
So it's a ''don't let good be the enemy of perfect'' situation? That actually makes sense.

>>714030794
worse case scenario, they may add an small note that if online game server is not operating for x amount of days, the consumers can ask for an refund, so dead games stay dead.
Best case scenario, all future games will have attached SDK files for when they end up getting sunseted by developer/publishers, so fans can just pick up the pieces and do whatever afterwards.
The realistic scenario is somewhere in the middle (closer to the gamedev site than gamers one).

>>714031078
It'd make sense to start it when Euros are awake.
So work out your timezone for 4pm AEST (About 8AM in euroland)

>Me when a corporate bootlicker speaks

>>714030794
This isn't a random internet petition. It's a legal process in the EU. If it gets one million sign ups, the EU commission is required by law to handle the issue together with lawyers and experts.

>>714030947
>probably
It absolutely is more expensive.

>>714024232
>you fuckers know what's coming
No, I don't. All you fuckers ever say is government intervention without any information on what that entails.
1. What are they going to do?
2. Why couldn't they do that prior to SKG?

>>714031006
do you also happen to have access to their emails, passwords and citizen ID number?

Reminder, if you live in Europe and you dont sign that petition, this faggot will shove that giant animal dildo his roommate showed he had up his asshole and get sexual pleasure from screwing over consumers.

>>714029454
>SHITalian

>>714030818
Based american supporter. We will fight for all!

I want to doompost so bad it's unreal. At absolute best this gets trough and regulated and developers will just use loopholes. to bypass the law.

>>714029454
Sei un idiota. Dimostriamo ancora una volta di essere inferiori rispetto a tutti gli altri europei.

>>714030665
Nah it doesn't matter to them because they literally rebuy every year no matter what. It doesn't matter one bit to them if FIFA 2025 gets shut down as long as they can buy FIFA 2026.

>>714031628
piangi, vai in un altri paese ue visto che ti piacciono tanto

>>714031604
It's a start, anon. You can't give up because you can't reach the moon. Maybe walk up a fairly large hill first.

>>714030794
You are being stupid. I don't remember was it EU or AUS which got into a scuffle with Valve about the refunds which resulted in Steam having to implement refunds. Also most recently EU forced Apple to adopt universal USB-C instead of their anti consumer retarded patent charger. EU is very good at regulating markets and very anal about consumer rights. For example in Finland Alcohol is taxed very heavily. So when people (legally so) buy alcohol cheaper online from other EU countries and bypass domestic taxation, the state tries to overrule the EU Free market laws and seize them in customs. When this happens or the state tries to push some anti free market law, rightfully so EU slams down and tells it would be a stupid move

>>714031628
MAMMA MIA PIZZA PASTA IN THE DIGIORNO!

>>714031745
Magari!

>>714031427
No but this is all it's asking me for, is it going to ask for more after submitting this?

>>714031482
This is confirmed to be PirateSoftwares animal dildo his roommate said was his after PS left the apartment and left it.

>>714030349
under Finnish law "Lex Karpela 25 j § (24.3.1995/446)"
>Anyone who has legally acquired a computer program may make copies of the program and make such changes to the program as are necessary to use the program for its intended purpose. This also applies to the correction of errors.
>A person who has the right to use a computer program may examine, study or experiment with the operation of the computer program in order to determine the ideas and principles underlying a part of the program, if he/she does so in connection with reading the program into the computer's memory or displaying, running, transferring or storing the program.
>A person who has the right to use a database may make copies of the database and perform all other actions necessary for accessing the contents of the database and for the normal use of the contents.

in layman's terms you are allowed to crack/reverse engineer any game you have bough, into a working state
and not we aren't the only ones who have these laws, iirc Czechs are even more lenient than we are but that's besides the point

>>714031852
c'è libertà di movimento, lo puoi fare in qualsiasi momento

>>714031753
>create proxy publisher to publish your games in europe
>games is discontinued/end of service
>le regulation hits
>proxy publisher just ignores it and declares bankruptcy
>create new proxy for next game
There are probably easier ways but this would be one way to completely ignore the law.

>>714031862
I remember that I needed to grab my Citizen ID to fulfill the signature. It's been 10 months, though.

>>714031869
that's just a garden gnome with a very large hat

>>714031951
I clicked through other countries and it seems some of them need some kind of citizen number to sign up

>>714031869
That can't be comfortable.

>>714025228
Honestly I think this is Ross being way too nice and not wanting Pirate Software to get rightfully shit on for being a twat.

I think the initiative could've passed by now had that fat faggot kept his mouth shut and let the campaign ride the wave.

>>714031898
>Who has the right to use a computer
Is it some special privilege to be a PCfag in Finland, or is it just kinda worded funnily?
Either way, those laws are extremely reasonable and should apply for every country on earth.

>>714031984
why would he need a garden gnome on his bathroom counter?

>>714031862
I don't think so, but if you use an eID (if you have it), it's even faster, as it automatically gets what is needed. It's a fast process overall.

>>714032081
>think the initiative could've passed by now had that fat faggot kept his mouth shut and let the campaign ride the wav
without drama we would still be at 400k thank Thor for being a retard

>>714031898
That's something completely different. The entire point of stop killing games is that developers are forced to leave games in a playable state.

>>714031928
Wouldn't that be more expensive than just following the laws?

>>714032047
Oh no... That might be why Finland is higher, then. Scams are happening.

>>714032120
That means I can sign up anyone that I have this basic information on and I don't think they would ever know they signed it, kinda like the US elections

>>714032208
There are multiple countries where they only ask for name, dob and address, like Germany and France for example

>>714031869
According to Kiwifarms, this is 100% true. The uploader provided other pics of them living with this furry fag for a time and this Pic was the highlight.

>>714032156
Pretty sure setup wold only cost a few thousands at best. Just paying one full time programmer for a month should be more expensive.

>>714031862
if that is all you need in a lot of countries this shit is fucked, i bet my ass a ton of signings are fake

>>714032054
He has a deep voice like that because his asshole got stretched out.

YO, does anybody has link to that spanish YT video on the SKG? It was posted in one the threads yesterday.

>>714032442
How would it be fucked? If the information is correct there is no way for them to figure it out unless they contact all 1 million who signed it

>>714032443
so that's why he wants his entire ass eaten all the time?

>>714031869
>Heads and shoulders

I'd sooner die than ruin my hair with that shit.

>>714032118
to guard his dragon dildos

>>714024461
you are wrong on the denuvo point, though not entirely.
publishers need to pay to keep denuvo in their release copies.
what some are starting to do is only pay for a few years of denuvo because it is cost effective.

>>714032484
I got it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3E2x4ZL-sI

GOG PROMOTING SKG
GOG PROMOTING SKG
GOG PROMOTING SKG

>>714032771
Gimme a source, NOW

>>714032084
Just a thing lost in translation (I am not going to translate our fucking law into English myself so I just used translator), it is just referring to any applicable computer program mentioned in the first subsection
>>714032143
read the whole reply chain
the point that I had in my first post was that we have laws that allow us to put any game into a working state regardless if the developer does or doesn't, hence "effectively achieve"
yes skg would make it much easier but we are already covered, so there's no reason not to give your vote for it if you like to have any ownership

>>714032535
You must be a nintendo fan if head and shoulders causes physical pain to you.

>>714032771
uhh were? Im pretty sure Ross said he talk with some dudes about doing some cooperation BUT than these dudes end up not working there anymore so it kind of fell out few months back.

Do people genuinely think they will be able to get 10k signatures a day on this for the next month?
Dont see any way this is going to happen realistically, the big jewtubers and dramasloppers already covered it, new signatures will be very hard to get towards the end and its already slowing down a lot

>>714032867
I'm not poor and actually take care of my hair.

>>714032964
Could get a new wave from youtubers who do videos in the different euro languages

>>714031869
How does PS shove that up his ass

>>714032771
Why are you lying to me? That genuinely hurts my feelings.

>>714023450 (OP)
Developers simply won't publish their gamrs in the EU anymore if you win, it's not like the EU was the biggest market for any GaaS anyway

>>714032829
>but we are already covered
Literally changes nothing about the situation. Reverse engineering is legal in pretty much any country in the world. The situation still remains the same. Fins cannot play the games that cannot be played for the rest of the world.

>>714033247
yeah, just like apple stopped selling phones in the EU

>>714033247
Yeah they will flush millions down the toilet instead of spending a couple grand to patch the game when they shut off the servers

>>714033247
this motherfucker does not know what he is talking about

>>714033247
>They'll just stop selling their product in the EU
People say this shit all the time and it never fucking happens, because they are not going to pass up a market that big. Nice attempt though.

>>714033247
Gay B8

>>714033247
Lol, they arent going to give up 10% of the market over an easily fixed issue

>>714033285
do try to move into Japan, buy and reverse engineer an Nintendo game that they aren't supporting anymore and tell me how it goes

>>714033247
Are you genuinely retarded?

>>714032141
Thor was also the one that killed the movement. The data shows that the curve goes down after his video, even if this can ve just a coincidence.

>>714032829
If you don't have complete network captures already before the servers are shutdown then most shit is impossible to get fully working, so just because you have the right to keep things working doesn't mean that will actually happen.

>>714032081
>I think the initiative could've passed by now had that fat faggot kept his mouth shut
i don't think so
everyone is giving him way too much credit with nothing to back it
you don't even know the demographic of his viewership
Ross himself says his viewership is/was 15% euro >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z4w_h2-UkM&t=548

>CEO walks into the board meeting and says "lets give up half a billion potential customers because we want to relieve our devs workload"
and everyone clapped
seriously I hope those are actual shill posts in the thread, nobody can be this retarded

>>714033247
They will give up to a giant market only because they don't want to let us play a single player game? Are you actually retarded?

>>714032964
The number used to be something like 16k signatures a day. If you look at it that way, the odds have improved.

>>714033614
I didn't say it is easy and yes it is unfortunately quite rare for it to happen but it still does
regardless I do hope the whole skg goes forward as it is great idea, makes you wonder how people in few centuries would look back at current era games preserved because of it

>>714031862
I wouldn't do it. They might eventually contact a sample of the signatures and ask if they signed it, and if they say no the percentage of fakes will poison the other signatures.

>>714033856
It doesnt matter what it used to be. In fact, the improvement in signatures made the requirement drop from like 20k sigs a day to 10k, but you still ultimately need 10k a day or you dont reach 1mil. If they were getting 50k sigs a day for a bit with that new push I could see it possibly happening but not anymore.

>>714033643
I used to get shitloads of his clips recommended to me on YouTube all the time, unsolicited. I had to repeatedly tell it to stop recommending me him, and this is before SKG. He had a MUCH wider reach than Ross. Before he became a lolcow a lot of normies listened to him. I don't think anyone is giving him too much credit, he used his platform and (undeserved) good reputation to tell people not to support this.

GODDAMN HOW MANY FUCKING BOTS AND COMMIES ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP SPAMMING THIS SHIT
GET THE FUCK OFF YOU WON'T GET FREE CODE OR OFFLINE MODE

>>714034121
As many as it will take

>>714033551
The same as in Finland. Nothing will happen if you just upload reverse engineered code since it's completely legal.

But same as in FInland Nintendo will take you down if you upload your reverse engineered code bundled with copyrighted assets.

>>714034121
SEETHE AND COPE

>>714026492
>need 11526 per day
>only got 1200

well i'll blame the pasteniggers for that

>>714034121
Hand over that thing, your server binaries.

>>714034121
You WILL own the games you purchased and you WILL run own custom fan server with friends once game developers shut down their official servers.

>>714034278
no faggot it's because it's like 4 in the morning in Italy

>>714032265
Well, I used the eID... I am probably wrong then. With the eID it's surely you, and it's faster.

If you don't have it, I think it took a week to make it.
In 1 year, the eID will be mandatory to travel around europe. You could do it now.

>>714034121
STAY MAD BITCH FAGGOT

>>714033247
Europe has more people than America. It's arguably the biggest consumer market on earth. That's why everyone has to tolerate and submit to EU regulation.

>>714034121
As many as it takes, faggot.

>>714034385
In germany you have to order a new physical passport which costs like 30-40 bucks.

>>714034369
It's 2 am, also >>714029680

>>714034385
Some countries literally don't have the choice to sign in with eID

>>714034541
EU consumers are notoriously of worse quality when compared to America, obviously no one wants to lose a market anyway but no company in the world wants to lose the American one, it's why when there are American sanctions that make you lose the American market if you don't comply every single company (American or not) complies immediately

>>714034746
>>714034809
My bad, frens.

What is that eID shit? Some citizen number so your elite can give you social credit scores?

>>714032771
>GOG
Maybe I'm misremembering, but I'm pretty sure the CD Projekt guys were into SKG. Why they haven't put it on GOG I don't know.

>>714034837
Depends on the product. For extra large dildos you don't want to lose the american market. For extra large condoms you don't want to lose the european market.

>>714034936
The European id card, it has your fingerprint, your face, your name, date of birth etc. you can also use it to access government services online (at least here in Italy)

>>714023450 (OP)
>Giving GAAS and gacha a government bail
Repulsive proposal.

>>714035058
Also you must have it on you at all times

>>714034936
It's just the new ID. It's faster to input informations with it, informations you would've be required to input manually anyway if you didn't have it.

>>714030794
>why would this actually change anything?
if this initiative passes the EU would pass laws that every membe state would have to implement. this would force any video game companies to formulate an EOL strategy for their games that doesn't leave players out in the cold when the game is shut down
>but that doesn't matter for Steam games because they just have you agree to cede those rights when buying their games.
before the Aus and the EU stepped in, there were no refunds at all

>>714034197
>Nothing will happen
pic related
regardless like I said before I do hope this goes through as there is only better rights to gain
anyways it's half past three in the morning there better be more signatures when I wake up
sleep well faggots

>>714030903
>but what if people find a way to RCE?
that issue can happen with plenty of games and software. unfortunately, in those cases the software would be insecure and one would have to play acknowledging the risks, preferably by using a separate HDD/SDD and unplugging everything else

>>714034346
OY VEYYYYYYYY why are you so anti-semetic. it's time to MOVE. ON.

>>714023450 (OP)
you better correct this shit if you want to be taken seriously

it's two words dumbass

>>714030794
>they just have you agree to cede those rights
You cannot cede legally protected rights

>>714023728
>>714028606
You're trading your freedom to corporations actually, there's way more than just "gooberment not make laws"
fucking retards

>>714035571
To use an easy example. Your law would suggest it's legal to crack denuvo. But you still need someone to actually do it. Crackers already live in countries where no one cares about copyright laws and yet no one cracks denuvo because it's too laborious.

SKG would make it so that developers are forced to remove denuvo. There is a world of difference here.

>>714031862
>street
>number
>postal code
>city
can with dual citizenship people living abroad vote?

>>714035879
But, there are things like TOS and EULAs that you can be forced to agree with when using certain products (such as video games bought via Steam).
You can refund a Steam game if you have a <2 hour playtime, but EU law says you should be able to refund it for ANY reason, within 2 weeks. You are not able to do that for Steam.

>>714036009
Any EU citizen can vote regardless of where they live

>>714023450 (OP)
>>>/b/
Not videogames, fuck off.

>>714036324
Don't care what paid shills have to say sorry

>>714023950
>online games
I'm white so I don't play those though.

Ross could beat up PS in a one on one.

>>714036192
You are able to do that

>>714035907
Fuck your governments and corporations.

>>714036192
As long as you are not abusing the system, I'm sure Steam will let you refund games within 2 weeks of purchase even if you had 100 hours played

>>714036438
>man breathing in Polish mold
>I am becoming stronger

>>714035841
pry written by a german. ESL Euros won't know
>videospiele
>videojuegos
https://dle.rae.es/videojuego
likely wasn't using Firefox while writing

>>714036192
>But, there are things like TOS and EULAs that you can be forced to agree with when using certain products (such as video games bought via Steam).

Yes and they can be illegal. If they went under legislative scrutiny they would be reprimanded. Sadly digital product EULAs and TOSs are criminally overlooked and not cared about.

>>714036192
You are referring to the 14-day cooling off period for physical goods where you can return the product for 14 days for any reason but:
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/guarantees-returns/index_en.htm
>Please note: the 14-day cooling-off period does not apply to:
>online digital content, such as a song or movie, that you started downloading or streaming after you expressly agreed to lose your right of withdrawal by starting the performance

>>714036438
That black mold did wonders for him

>>714028729
>>714030065

need SKG thread OST proposals:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAPgPH9hsI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svjk2b7yFZ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw

do the corporate shills here really expect me to side with them and a fucking gay furry e-celeb?

>>714035841
ay ay ay los videojangos!

>>714036929
It's a contrarian board, brother

>>714036831
BORN IN BLOOD (STILL, WE FORGE AHEAD)
STAINED IN RED (UNTO TOMORROW)
BOUND BY LOVE (SO WE FORGE AHEAD)
PURPOSE FED (UNTO TOMORROW, BRING US TOMORROW)
COURAGE THRIVES (EVER FORGE AHEAD)
HAND IN HAND (UNTO TOMORROW, WELCOME TOMORROW)
SOULS ALIGNED (THAT WE FORGE AHEAD)
FORGE AHEAD (YEAH, WE FORGE AHEAD, YEAH, WE FORGE AHEAD)
FORWARD

>>714036703
>Digital content
Aw fuck. You are correct. That's my bad for misunderstanding what the video games I'm buying even are classified as.
That's pretty fucking dumb though.

>>714036831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhsqRBJmAyo

I'm surprised we are even getting today's signatures early on a monday morning. God bless the vampire population.

>>714023728
>be pseudo-intellectual contrarian
>having freedom and not being taken advantage of is actually a bad thing in the long run

>>714037404
Is Romania part of the EU?

>>714034987
>Why they haven't put it on GOG I don't know.
Because GOG has to do work with videogame publishers and supporting SKG is not a great way to get publishers to put games on GOG. I still like GOG and i understand why they are not publically supporting SKG.

>>714037490
Yes, and now they are in Schengen too so their filth can hop around stealing wallets unabated.

What people prioritize about what maldavius figtree did wrong made me lose all hope in humanity.

1. some dumb world of warcraft shit who cares
2. nepo baby
3. furry ferret faggit
4. narcissist
5. cheating blatantly at games
6. sabotaging SKG

And people only give a fuck bcause ecelebs have pointed the last one out. Otherwise no one would give a single shit.

Where's that one steam review that completely oblidevastated hearbound's drm meme?

>>714037696
You forgot to mention getting $19,272 to make Heartbound then not updating it to chase Twitch viewers

>>714034936
This is what you use to vote in European elections among other uses like crossing EU borders or voting in European Citizens Initiatives like the one we have here focussed on videogames.

>>714034346
god bless!

>>714033247
You mean like Valve stopped selling videogames in the EU?

>>714030903
What you're describing is completely outside of SKG's scope, having virtually nothing to do with the issue at hand. The publisher fulfilled their end of the bargain by releasing server binaries, so SKG's criteria are fulfilled.
An unrelated party performing a criminal act AFTER that fact would be dealt with by the courts separately, likely via both criminal and civil cases in which the guilty party is punished, and victims are repaid for the damages they suffered.

Daily reminder that DDO is only alive because the fans didn't let crapcom kill it.

>>714027556
>New whitest countries list
Holy fuck it actually is...
Fingols... I kneel...

>>714035054
fucking kek

Redpill on Cyprus, I know nothing about it.

>>714023450 (OP)
Reminder: If you had any self control and stopped buying the games that did this then companies would do this without the government stepping in and fucking everything up.

>>714039671
I hate self-control and I vote with my wallet, yet gachashit scams keep getting produced. it's clearly not working, so it's time to get the government involved to make sure these scoundrels can't just take away people's purchases

>>714039832
> so it's time to get the government involved to make sure these scoundrels can't just take away people's purchases
No, no it's never time for that you brainless idiot. Anything the government touches turns to shit instantly.

>>714039902
>GOVERNMENT REGULATION BAD
>CORPORATION STEALING GOOD
this is your mind on corporatocracy

>>714039902
Good slave.
Now prepare for your shift at amazon

>>714023728
I'm not a corporation so my freedom isn't being restricted here.

>>714039902
Citizen directed initiatives are the only thing the government is actually good for. Those retards don't do anything useful on their own. Take the rare opportunity to actually put them to work on something people want instead of pissing away money in foreign shitholes or painting pride flags on public property.

>>714040000
>GOVERNMENT REGULATION BAD
Unironically yes.

Government regulation only serves to strangle innovation and new business. Anything done by a government body can be done at a third of the cost and in a third of a time from a business or some other solution (i.e. ESRB)

>>714024232

>>714040186
Ah yes the new business of increasingly gouging your customers and stealing shit they paid for out from under them.

You deserve to be assraped by Bobby Kotick.

>>714024461
> Denuvo plus tech aging out means that it will become harder and harder to play old games the way you once did.
So shouldn’t this logically lead to the ban of Denuvo?

>>714025327
First time on /v/?

>>714023450 (OP)
>Hey, see the mess our IP/copyright regulations made? We are going to fix it with yet another regulation! This one won't backfire, honest
The yuro mind is literally unable to do anything without government authorization, it seems

>>714040186
age ratings are trash. I'd never ever trust them when buying a game for my kids. vague, retarded descriptors like "comic mischief," "fantasy violence," and "crude language" that tell you jack shit. games like mortal kombat are harmless for children yet they get an M rating. meanwhile groomer lgbtranny propaganda makes it past their filters without a hitch. bunch of worthless busybodies
anyway, corporations only care about profit maximization and need to be reined in before they spin out of control

>>714040782
>>714039671
>>714036324
>>714035841
>>714035139

>>714040186
>Government regulation only serves to strangle innovation and new business
They also serve to keep those businesses from buying up and reaping our country's natural resources and filling our drinking water with sewage and uranium.
It's not all or nothing and never has been.

>>714023728
They are cucks who expect the government to solve their problems.
I don't want the government to do anything with software after the dumpster fire that was GDPR.

>Stop Killing Games

I bet my bottom dollar that these fuckers would've also hated based Teddy introducing anti-trust.

>>714041369
Thank you, Eggman. You were my favorite president.

>>714040186
Live service does not facilitate innovation or new businesses

>>714041290

>>714041247
>He hasn't taken advantage of gdpr
Actual fucking retard

>>714023450 (OP)
It's over, yurotrannies lost

>>714041247
gdpr let me delete my old cringe shit I wrote on forums as a teen
I do not actually care if it inconveniences american news websites or not

>>714042563
What part of being locked out of a bunch of services is an advantage exactly? Oh right I get you'll say you should I'm be interested in using government approved sites, the rest of the world is not interesting.

Why do people call Ross moldy.
I haven't watched him since Freeman's mind like 15 years ago and forgot he existed

>>714043104
Listen thor, you are not going to make it. Your games suck balls, you are no longer with blizzard because of your fucked up behavor. Nobody likes you, stay in your echo chamber of like minded retards, getting triggered for all the shit going wrong in your gender fetisched mind. Furry up your pink hole, bleach your weeny and fuck off.

>>714043104
When he moved to Poland, the place he moved into had really bad mold problems, like really bad.
Coincidentally, RE7 wasn't that far off of that event so people said he got consumed by the mold which compels him to make insane theories on games and go off on tangents.

>>714024081
Eulas grant them too much power fag.

>>714029846
>gets cucked and raises brown babies
what a stereotype

>not even 6am in yurop and already almost +2k
STOP THE CUNT

>>714024081
>Nintendo EULA allows them to completely kill your purchased console because they didn't like what you did with your property.

B-B-B-BUT THE EULAAAA!

>>714024081
>>EULAs
lol

>My shorts section on youtube used to be full of that Thor faggot's clips
>Now a clip showed up where he's being schooled by a psychologist calling him a narcissist
Dude speedran his internet career. Up and coming youtuber straight to lolcow no inbetween.

Real talk, you actually know why the publisher doesn't like this!

I am AAA dev from switzerland, worked for a handfull of big studios, excusse my bad english.

There is a lot of money involved, as always and this should be no surprise to anyone here. For the publisher it boilds always down to money, but not in the way you would think.

As like with any other consumer goods, it is about the money for the shareholders. As more it can generate as bigger the income as more investments... you know the road this takes.

At one point, around 2000 the publisher noticed that predecessor IP's would damaged the income within an ongoing serie. They tried to find a way around this, testing the water with going full server based games.

If i remember correctley, it was need for speed doing it first.
They started a whole serie of NfS, shutting down each game as soon the next game was in the pipeline.

It did not really worked out, because the game wasn't fully on the server. It continued with slowely removing local multiplayer, loval singleplayer savefiles and got its biggest boost with matchmaking mechanism.

to cut it down, it is all about the money.
Keeping the development as cheap as possible, boosting only the promotion.

What actually will happened when the EU does something is the change of clarification on those products, you will no longer be able to buy it. What you will be presented with is a subscription model.

As soon this will happened, you will see games with a sub' option for 80 dollars, this is crazy and nobody will support this.

the shareholders know.

>>714044650
>I am AAA dev from switzerland,
Post tits

>>714023830
Yumi... yummy...

>>714044650
I figured that would've been the case. What's the mood like for developers that are forced to do this shit, swededev?

>>714044834
>Swededev
I'm retarded, ignore me.

>>714044650
big studios in switzerland? are there even any?

>>714023934
>t.

>>714023950
>things are fine
You have 30 days of 365 left skgtranny. Despite your best efforts, you barely managed to reach 65% in 11 months, so what makes you think you'll get the remaining 35% in 1 month?

>>714023450 (OP)
at least this time retarded tranny janny didnt move it to /pol/

This is the good shit that SKG hopes to achieve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR7EmPcobtk
20 year old game this year. I fucking love game communities.

>>714023728
Can I rape you? Don't be a hypocrite.

i hate italy so much bros

>>714031482
But I'm not a EUnigger

>almost 1 in 200 finns have signed the initiative

>>714047425
isn't that actually a lot, if you think about it?

>>714047585
it is

>>714047585
It really is a large chunk of the population. It doesn't sound like a lot but when you are dealing with numbers this big, getting that many people to care about a single subject is impressive.

>>714047657
>>714047669
am I wrong to think that the EU 1 million requirement is kind bullshit and way too much?

>>714024024
Saw the initiative early on and didn't sign cause I saw my country had already passed the quota. Only signed after I saw how much further it still had to go a few days ago.

>>714047994
1 million out of 449 isn't much.

>>714047994
I wouldn't say so. They can't have every single thing getting escalated on a whim, and for something as trivial as video games, it was only natural for it to struggle to get signatures compared to a real issue.

>>714024461
>Denuvo plus tech aging out means that it will become harder and harder to play old games the way you once did.
This is the most retarded of your arguments, considering that now Denuvo is a subscription, and that it is removed from the titles that use it once some time has passed.

>>714050948
It hasn't been removed from all old games. I know because I have some games that have been on my Steam wishlist for about ten years, and I won't buy them until Denuvo is removed. Other people won't wait and that is why piracy exists.

if game die who was play????

>>714051162
It looks like it only became a subscription recently, and that they still honor previous contracts.

>>714030794
Steam literally added refunds because of the EU, and Australia. Steam refunds are a prime example of how this sort of shit does work. The government is more than happy to do things that will get them votes, and money.

>>714023450 (OP)
My dad is in parliament but I won't do anything because Ross is an ugly burger, kek
At least Thor has a jawline

>>714051841
and my dad works at Blizzard

>>714028306
Nobody, they are just too lazy

>>714051841
>parliament
Oh no!
Anyway

The numbers going up is good background, 2nd monitor stuff, especially once it hits about 9 or 10 over there.

Stats on my 4chan ad banner so far. It links directly to the EU petition.

14 clicks for 40 cents. I think I'll have to increase the bid amount.

BTW here's my ad banner if you'd like to buy your own 4chan ad.

>>714039902

suck my dick faggot, things are already shit as it is, worse case scenario, we make things shit for publishers as well

>>714051841
Hi Thor

>>714053562
do you have any analytics how well the ad is doing?

>>714053894 see >>714053503

>>714053562
>>714053503
Is it possible to make a different language version to serve to different countries?

So the text is in Italian if viewed in Italy, or in German if viewed in Germany, etc?

>>714053958
lol I'm blind

>>714054036
yes
you can choose which countries you're targetting

>>714054036
perhaps an animated gif that displays different languages one after the other?

>>714054137
So are you considering doing that then? Do you need help with the languages?

>>714054446
I'm not super rich, chipping in 20 dollars is enough for me.

>>714053562
needs big anime tits to get your typical 4chan users attention.

american here, our consumer rights are fucked so I hope you guys at least get some small victory at a minimum from this

someone make a new thread

>>714055223
>>714055223
>>714055223