What was it like growing up in this time period?

Kino. Take me back.

>>714025828 (OP)
Sheeeeesh those consoles are dead ass retro unc fr fr.

>>714025828 (OP)
It was fun. I wrote a Pit of 100 Trials guide on a sheet of computer paper for myself. I lost it long ago, but I wish I still had it.

>>714025828 (OP)
It was pretty great, aside from cancerous Xbox creating paid online

>>714025828 (OP)
lol I wasn't even born until the XBone/PS4 era.

Fun af

>>714025828 (OP)
After coming off generations 3, 4 and 5, the sixth gen was really disappointing. The PS2 was a major let down coz the games felt like they were trying to be movies. So my PS2 was basically just used as a DVD player.
The gamecube had a couple of outstanding titles like RE4 and Metroid Prime but overall not really enough other good stuff to warrant me having any strong memories about it.

Overall i think the Dreamcast was my favourite system from that era. It felt like the last actual video game console with a focus on gameplay.
Also, looking back on the 6th gen from today's perspective and knowing how games are now.... the 6th generation was amazing... But at the time, i was noticing all the cracks starting to appear in the medium and i was noticing disturbing trends, especially the disappearance of japanese games, overall hostility towards games that were arcadey and action focused, and lots of journalists and normies starting to want games that focus on story.

I wasn't born until 2007 so idk

>>714025828 (OP)
It was shit

>>714025828 (OP)
>playing SoulCalibur, Power Stone 2 and emulating SNES games on my dreamcast
Take me back

>>714025828 (OP)
Mysterious

>>714026398
(You)

>>714025828 (OP)
https://files.catbox.moe/gil7hl.mp4

>>714025828 (OP)
SOVL

>>714026398
I hope you are a zoomer GigaStacey and not some smelly zoomer rat kid.

>>714025828 (OP)
Like salty milk and coins

>>714025828 (OP)
Man we would play Melee, Double Dash, RE4, good times
A buddy had the Xbox and we would play Halo and Halo2, the original Fable

picrel was another old Gamecube favorite

It was a fun time as a gamer in some respects. Games had never been this aesthetic, online and DLC wasn't a thing yet, so we got the whole game, and it wasn't streamlined for mass appeal, so game felt like games.

I'm old enough to have experience all the generations so far, and this was a stand our for the library that was building at the time, great split screen games, and seeing some games truly evolve from 2D to 3D (GTA being one of the biggest... seriously, we had no idea what was possible and what was coming). Backward compatibility kept the classics going, while innovation was still coming instead of remasters and crappy remakes.

The releases were spaced out so we didn't have a market as saturated as now. Games then felt more like events, now even the best games feel like samey shovelware.

The PS2 was the obvious winner early on.
DC just sputtered out and Sega's hardware got the death it deserved (they were greedy af).
GCN made no sense except for the exclusives, and even then no proper Mario for the system was a huge "wtf?"
Xbox was solid, but lacked eastern appeal and western devs were not great. Halo was over-hyped, but Xbox guys were thirsty. Best controller for shooters, bar none.

It was a totally different atmosphere. The last age of physical media only. Online and digital ownership was not being pushed, so things just felt more like ours. By the next gen people had been suckered into MS points and horse armor, and now you don't even own the games you buy.

For gaming, it was a very different kind of time than now.

>>714025828 (OP)
9/11. Terrorism. The government is spying on you. Your neighbors want to kill you. Threat level red. Fear. Fear. Fea-

Oh sick, the new Halo is out! Hi, is Jason there? Hey Jason, I just got the new Halo, is it cool with your mom if you sleep over? Okay. What'd she say? Awesome! I'm gonna call Ryan and see if he can bring extra controllers. Did you see the new Strong Bad email?

>>714025828 (OP)
For me, it was a a lot of PSO, Crystal Chronicles, and Double Dash.

>>714025828 (OP)
There were times when my childhood was rough despite living so comfortably at certain points. The 2000s from my experience was in part a lot of leftovers of the 90s. 9/11 happened and scared the shit out of everyone, which was followed by a very brief period of patriotism and unity until 2004 when Hurricane Katrina hit and Kanye got on tv and said "George Bush doesn't care about black people". Then the Great Recession hit and things really started going to hell. So many retail stores closed down, people lost their homes, politics started to become a lot more radical.

I had a typical American childhood. Lived in a suburb, rode my bike to school, played with the neighborhood kids, did sports, played in the marching band. I was really into Harry Potter, Star Wars, Dragon Ball Z, and WWE. I collected Yu-Gi-Oh cards and played with LEGOs. On tv I watched Spongebob, Fosters, Drake and Josh, Fairly Odd Parents, Ed Edd n Eddy, basically all the hit shows that were on cable at that time. Punk rock was the most popular genre at that time, though rap was starting to take over. Everyone wanted an iPod and a Motorola Razr.

Video games were good. I had a GameCube and then later a PS2. I played a lot of Melee and Mario Kart, loved Sonic Adventure and Mario Sunshine. I never played any PS2 exclusives and most kids I knew didn't either. Most people used it as a DVD player and played multiplatform games like LEGO Star Wars and Battle for Bikini Bottom.

It was a fun time but I don't really consider it any better or worse than say the 90s or the 80s.

Games were fun, but honestly most of the time I was playing it was multiplayer games with friends. $50 for a game back then would be the equivalent of 100-150 now, so unless you were rich most kids would get 2-6 games a year, so maybe 240 hrs of single player storyline max. Internet gaming was pretty niche, so most of your time playing you were actually in a room joking around with your friends. Way better experience than online play.

>>714025828 (OP)
Honestly, I think the fact that online play was a rare, unique selling point and not a standard was part of what made it a good era

A game came out and was done, that was it. Online consoles were rare, so a patch couldn't be relied upon to fix a bad game, nor could online trickle updates be used to keep a game relevant.

But the gaming culture was also slower, and that was good. A game didn't come out to a torrent of already-written guides, people discussed games over a few months. The whole discussion was split up over enough publications, channels, forums, sites, etc that you didn't get a singular overwhelming response unless a game was truly something else (good or bad). You didn't get an instant "everyone on youtube says this game sucks". You bought games based on a box, a few reviews, and a vibe.

A cult hit didn't suddenly get shitloads of exposure because some big youtuber made a "deep dive on Buck Bumble".

So yes, it was a nice era to grow up in, but I think it was in part because that was the last gasp of the pre-Always Online age. Early PS3/360 days also had that spirit, but by 2012 I wanna say we were sliding into the bad place we are now.

Smartphones were a mistake. Everything being always online was a mistake. Return the internet to a thing you invoked from a beige-plastic shrine kept in the office or dining-room.

>>714027891
>$50 for a game back then would be the equivalent of 100-150 now, so unless you were rich most kids would get 2-6 games a year
This was a big one too. Most kids I knew only got a couple of games for birthdays and Christmas, and we'd still rent games from Blockbuster. We'd also share a ton of games which led to fights when someone wouldn't give it back lmao

>>714025828 (OP)
I would have appreciated it more except that I didn't stop sucking at games until the gen after.

soul
most triple A still did not have the formula and vidya was not as mainstream...
games did not look washed up and CRT's definitely helped bring those experiences to life
i miss the sheer amount of originality, and how unique each system was, just looking at the bios felt so real, a work of passion, instead of a roku box multimedia device.
even though corparate greet was definitely there, it still did not have such a hold on the industry yet...
gaming has not been the same since then.

when it rained you couldn't watch satellite tv.

when your mom picked up the phone your internet got disconnected.

you put in your game disc and it made loud sounds it didn't matter if it was pc or console.

you couldn't watch youtube or tiktok to build a computer. you had to read forums or read the back of the game box and copy what they had.

we werent allowed to have electronics in school period. no phones, no laptops. no handhelds, no computers except the library (so she can check out your physical book). we did everything by paper and pencil.

when you went outside after school the ice cream man came and he offered sonic popcicles, nobody thought he was a pedo or giving anthrax.

>>714025828 (OP)
nobody owned a dreamcast, stop putting it in the convo

>>714025828 (OP)
>What was it like growing up in this time period?
Magical.

I was already in my early teens when PS2 dropped, but after the mind-blowing experience of seeing vidya jump to THREE-DEE with N64 and PS1, the quality leap going from 5th to 6th gen must be the second most impressive generational upgrade. I think games like RE1-2 and Ocarina Of Time push 5th gen just slightly above the sixth in terms of nostalgia, but that's another topic.

I remember watching those pre-release video demos (trailers) on PS1 demo discs, aweing at FFX, Silent Hill 2 and MGS2 footage. Shit looked sooo photorealistic to my grade-schooler eyes.
And once those systems and games arrived... instant peak of my gaming life. Gaming variety was at its all-time peak. No "always online" cancer ruining the industry and butchering QA, yet the primitive, limited online access meant that us nerds had our own secret lil' playgrounds, outside the normalfags' IRL world.
Backwards compatibility of the PS2 meant that all the PS1 games I'd gathered were still there, valid funtime. Silent Hill 2 got me into psychology and philosophy, and would lead me finding fun online communities a bit later.

I ended up getting GC and GBA out of pity when I was like 15, as I got super sick and had to get a surgery. Really liked the systems, was joyed to get to play the next Zeldas and even the next-gen RESI games (thanks Mikami). Yet, at the same time, I feel like 6th gen sorta cemented Nintendo falling behind with the times.

Soon after, I saved enough money to buy my first "Pentium", and soon I found myself diving in a sea of games, emulation and game making. I was still cautiously hyped for the PS3 when it arrived, mostly thanks to MGS4 and FF13 (I kid you not), and while I don't regret getting the Fat model at all, I definitely knew already that PC would be my main platform from that point on.

>>714025828 (OP)
>got to play gc and all previous gens thanks to my xbox hueg with emulators
Shit was peak comfy. I got the best of everything.

Go to one /v/ thread everybody is buying their third $3000 GPU unless they're poor.
Go to another thread, everyone is talking about not being able to conceive of spending $500 a year in games for a kid unless they're rich.
I hope the few people on here with kids aren't so cheap they'd drop 6K on toys for themselves but only a couple hundred on their kid.

>>714025828 (OP)
The greatest set of consoles ever released. Oh, and the Gamecube I guess.

>>714025828 (OP)
Uh a lot was going on. Prompt me with something more specific. I was born in 90 so my memories of that time are hyper-specific to the year; like, 2002 and 2003 were super different.

>>714025828 (OP)
it was exciting

>>714025828 (OP)
Everyone owned a PS2 the rest less so, the games on PS2 weren't really that much different to those on ps1 though obviously the graphic were a lot better

>>714025828 (OP)
First real internet-based hype for next-gen. Most of the good previews still came from gaming magazines, but for the first time you could go online and watch teeny tiny MOVs of stuff from E3. I remember I had a Gamecube demo disk that was 90% trailers, still hype. You could go into Target or Walmart or Gamestop and play demo stations. Strategy guides were still huge. News about Japanese games was always sparse and hit-or-miss. Pokemon was cool until 2002 when it suddenly became extremely uncool, but gaming in general was suddenly cool as long as you were playing something rated M.

>>714025828 (OP)
As of date, the height of gaming. Poor bastards who never grew up with a PS2

For games and other media entertainment, interesting.
For social life, kinda fun and I miss hanging out with my old friends.
For school life and everything else, boring but still optimistic for the future.
sigh

>>714025828 (OP)
>we have to make cool products because that's the way to sell product
>compete with each other to make the coolest product
>yo the playstation 2 is gonna be backwards compatible just as a feature!

jesus christ

It was cringe desu. Bush was president, computers barely worked, and I didn't have any of those consoles. The only games I played then were Star Trek Armada, Flight Simulator, and occasionally Halo at friends houses.

>>714029179
1080p pc gaming at 60fps still isn't all that expensive

>>714032705
But that's unhealthy for your eyes.

>>714025828 (OP)
Living in a candy store the game generation.

>>714029179
>I hope the few people on here with kids aren't so cheap they'd drop 6K on toys for themselves but only a couple hundred on their kid.
As funny as it would be to believe that half the posters here are ReviewTechUSA, the reality is that it's the divide between people who are fiscally responsible and have a family, and soulless bugmen who live for nothing.

>>714032802
You can emulate every game from all of these systems without paying anything, so you're living in much more of a candy store now. Most people growing up didn't have all of these consoles or unlimited budget for games.

>>714033025
>so you're living in much more of a candy store now.
Moving the goalpost mentality. Gen 6 is past; you're not living in that era and can't be replicated anymore.

>You can emulate every game from all of these systems without paying anything
>mfw own the consoles and didn't pay for any of them
Emulation sissies can't measure

>>714033025
Too much choice is debilitating. The only problem with 2000s scarcity is if you couldn't get a game you were looking forward to or that your friends were playing.

>>714025828 (OP)
>Absolutely love Luigi's Mansion but it's beatable in a day.
>Bored as fuck until Rogue Leader, Smash, Sunshine, etc.
>Play a ton of Jak and Daxter, Sly Cooper and Metal Gear.
>Endure jank ass DVD controls.
>VMU huge disappointment to dumb kid me expecting a GBA out of a memory card.
>For some reason had to "warm up" the Dreamcast for a few minutes or else the games wouldn't read.
>Gave zero fucks about Halo, loved Jade Empire.
>Burning CDs then listening to them in a racing game was fucking incredible.
These are my immediate memories looking back on those consoles. PS2 > GameCube > Dreamcast > Xbox for me, had I been a little older Xbox would have rated higher.

>>714033025
You're thinking in the context of all these games being available now which doesn't necessarily increase the value of their experiences as you only have so much time in a day to commit to a game and people don't traditionally genre jump in the same day. Living in the era the order of game releases meant at any month, any day you were highly like to be excited for or have access to a genre series defining game or a unique experience. Even with a limited budget as long as you didn't make poor choices by the time you got bored of a game you had enough money to either rent or buy a new one. Healthy used market and retail not being dead meant games almost never sold for full retail and you could go to a local flea market and scoop up 10 N64 games for 20 bux because there was no collector market yet. There was a ton of ways even as a ghetto kid like me to get access to new games and the whole atmosphere of the era was in fact like a candy store. Even the marketing and decoration of your average game store was much more in your face and aggressive which added to the upbeatness of the era and how people viewed games.

>>714025828 (OP)

>>714025828 (OP)
A lot of drum&bass and beaches.

>>714025828 (OP)
Technological whiplash. Hardware was progressing and improving at a rate we have not seen since.

>>714025828 (OP)
really was a mixed bag. Games were fun, and there was constantly shit coming out you wanted, but you could only buy a handful of it. After awhile, at least on ps2, the OEM controllers would poop out and youd have to struggle with the shitty ass third party stuff, and that would change your vidya taste based off what games would actually react to that shitty ass controller. also if you lacked internet like me alot of games had really asanine shit like pic related where you might have the completely correct thought of what to do but it wouldnt register and youd spend a whole afternoon getting a feel for it before either giving up and dropping the game there or powering through. Renting was alot better than the current landscape though since you could actually try shit out (sure you can sale the high sees now but it was alot easier then, no multi hour downloads), and almost every game had a unique control scheme instead of the defaults we're kinda used to now, made it fun being forced to get used to that stuff.

also gen alphas dont really understand the pain of gamestop covers and discs only working on random days. now they dont even have physical vidya really. i have noticed people watch less shit now that addictive short form content is at our fingertips. Felt like more people knew random shit just from movies being on cable or being stuck with the same 40 dvd's and the occasional blockbuster rental.

>>714035009
>Felt like more people knew random shit just from movies being on cable or being stuck with the same 40 dvd's and the occasional blockbuster rental.
there was less stuff, making stuff had a higher barrier to entry, and getting your stuff out there had a higher barrier to entry
plus we all had the same channels - no curated feeds. Yeah we bought DVDs, the really smart among us knew how to pirate shit without exploding our computer, but there was still less stuff out there you're right.

>>714025828 (OP)
Don't know. I was an adult when all but the Dreamcast came out.

>>714035294
how are your knees and lower back doing?

>>714025828 (OP)
Way worse than previous generations. Hack devs finally had the disc size and GPU power to make everything a movie. Formerly good devs didn't know what to do with it and spun their wheels. Not even Mario or Zelda were safe. The only console that had a really robust library was PS2 and its load times were shit

it was awesome. i had a friend who had a dreamcast and i'd play powerstone, mk gold, and sonic adventure. was a blast. same with halo 2 on xbox. first time encountering online multiplayer with voice. it was so entertaining it's absurd. gamecube i remember playing ssx tricky, nba street and pokemon xd visiting my cousins in the summer. just wake up, eat pancakes, play basketball, then boot up the gc. i think ps2 is the only one i never had legit experience with, which is funny since people always pushed it as the best console that gen.

>>714025828 (OP)
Shit advanced stupidly fast, comparing PS2 launch titles to the end of the consoles life is insane.

>>714025828 (OP)
Video games. It was motherfucking video games.

I never knew anyone with an Xbox at all but I knew people with all the other ones.
t.Western Europe

>>714025828 (OP)
hopeful, full of excitement and fun. tons of releases every month, each full of soul and passion. each console did something different and if you had friends who had a different one you could have a great time lending each other's systems/games. legit the last time the industry was GOOD

>>714036315
I think the 7th gen was great for handhelds. DS and PSP were like an extension of what made the 5th/6th gen fascinating.

>>714036573
>spoiler
Based. As much as I love the gba, handhelds really peaked with the DS/PSP.

If you think about someone who is 40 now, the nes dominated their early years, when they were 6-11 the 16bit consoles dominated, when they were 12-15 the ps1/n64 did their thing, then when they were 16 it was the ps2/gamecube

You basically had every generation of consoles making massive leaps in tech and all were aimed squarely at your age demographic.

>>714025828 (OP)
Most people were retarded and bought PS2 or Xbox so missed out on most of the kino of that generation which was predominantly on Dreamcast and Gamecube.

>>714025828 (OP)
there was no better time to jump ship to pc

>>714036923
I'm 35 and this is basically me. The NES and og Gameboy were my first machines. The PS3/360/Wii gen is where gaming basically stopped evolving from my perspective. The PS4 and PS5 gens were hardly any different from games i played in the PS3/360 gen.

>>714037864
Did you just think things would keep getting exponentially better forever?

>>714038529
Not really but I thought it would keep going for at least 1 or 2 more gens after the PS3/360 but really it just stuck with PS3/360 type games and just made graphics better

>>714038529
Not him but I don't remember anyone in the 90's thinking shit would just stagnate. Either we'd have fantastical supertechnology or all be dead in nuclear war

>>714025828 (OP)
PS2 was great
Gamecube had no games compared to other nintendo consoles
Xbox was pure shit
Dreamcast had some cool stuff but it I never owned one, only played a friend's

Pretty good times, consoles died after this gen though

>>714039036
I was 14 when dreamcast came out. It's weird cause while it wasn't as powerful as the ps2 I still remember everything on it looking fantastic and running like a dream, while the ps2 I mainly associate with muted colours and 22fps.

It really distilled the Sega aesthetic and every time you got to play one it felt like a little holiday to a blue and wonderful place.

I want to go back.
I can never go back.

>>714038765
>>714038976
I think games can still evolve design-wise, but it does feel like that priorities shifted in the 7th gen. Games got prettier, budgets started getting even bigger, and gameplay was understood well enough at this point to fall back on reliable formulas. I don't think the drive is there to innovate and find new ways to play from the entities that have the most resources to push those ideas forward, at least not unless said ideas have the potential to make even more money.

>>714039036
The worst was xbox and that one was decent. There's no bad choice in gen 6 consoles, with DC being the console masterrace ofc

>>714039817
>>714039036
The Xbox was the racially superior choice for racists. The analog triggers were much better than the pressure sensitive bottons on PS2 or using the analog sticks to accelerate/decelerate. Also Rallisport Challenge 2 is the best Rally game of the era. Xbox also had all the Burnout games and Midnight Club 3 Remix.

>>714040072
>Xbox also had all the Burnout games and Midnight Club 3 Remix
PS2 had all the exclusives. Xbox was irrelevant the moment it dropped into console landscape and that hasn't only gotten worse since late 360

>>714025828 (OP)
new shit all the time. didn't feel like rehashes. It was alright. I do miss it but I don't need to revisit it either.

>>714040227
Xbox had some pretty good exclusives for the race warrior. Project Gotham 1 and 2, Forza Motorsport and Sega GT 2002.

>>714040519
>Xbox had some pretty good exclusives for the race warrior
And they didn't make a dent in the big picture, PS2 was still the dominant platform and xbox only survived as the american appealing console. It survived at least

>>714036923
And the games were fantastic and laid the groundwork for great futures. Somewhere along the line game devs lost sight of it all and started catering to zoomers. The gayest generation ever

>>714040598
Nothing made a dent against the PS2. Everything else kinda fucked off to their own little niches and did what they could.

>>714040646
>Somewhere along the line game devs lost sight of it all and started catering to zoomers
It's called development costs raising due the HD forcing

>>714040598
True but jokes aside, it was legitimately the best system to play the multiplat racing games on. System link capability for Battlefront, Metal of Honor and Halo was pretty mind blowing at the time too.

>>714040728
>Nothing made a dent against the PS2
Melee. That shit carried an entire system; one fucking game. Imagine if PS2 didn't have the normie attention and a couple of titles but that gen was full blown into the impression of Nintendo dying despite they doing fine economically

>>714040841
Features and hardware don't sell a console, games do and PS2 had lots of those. It was an easy approach that remains true after all these years... because ps and xbox are getting fucked over by it currently lol

>>714036573
I can agree with that, the ds had an amazing library and definitely continued the legacy of Nintendo. never really gave much of a chance to the psp but its fanbase is really passionate so I bet it must have been just as memorable for them

>>714040878
PS2 didn't try to compete against Melee, nor did it even need to acknowledge it. And by that metric, Halo was no less of a phenomenon that also carried its respective console. Franchise is a joke now but Bungie-era Halo is more or less why anyone even knows what Xbox is.

>>714040737
what???

The PS2 was great for platformers and wrestling games. While they seem to not be as fondly remembered as the PS1 entries the Crash games were fun, Jak 1 was great (even if I never got past the first area, I did the fishing minigame so many times), Ratchet and Clank basically had no missteps, you even had great third party platformers like the Spongebob games. Likewise the WWF/E games of the time are considered some of the best still to this day.

FPS and women killed gaming.

>>714041239
i was so jealous of this american era, when i was a child. why is your country nuked now?

>>714042431
>why is your country nuked now?
Demographic change and social engineering.

>>714025828 (OP)
I grew up in this time and I still think it would’ve been more impressive to live through the PS1/N64 generation.

>>714025828 (OP)
Better than now because I could buy a game and get the actual whole game and actually own it.

>>714042431
feminazis

>>714041609
>PS2 didn't try to compete against Melee
You got it the other way anon.

>>714026352
stfu contrarian faggot, gen 6 had some of the most genre-defining games within a year of the ps2 launch
>beloved classics are... le BAD!

>>714025828 (OP)
Life felt more quiet, peaceful. People went outside more. Developers put more passion and soul into their games

>>714042007
And jews

>>714025828 (OP)
you could go to any game store, throw a dart at the gaming rack, and find something fun to play
gaming was popular but not mainstream in the state its in today
4 player coop was pure kino
graphics and gameplay were balanced and the focus was on engaging fun
there was a wider variety of genres and a lot more experimental games
every game had is on feel thanks to everyone having different engines. this made almost every game as unique as a fingerprint
you could find older gen games for cheap and enjoy them too
console wars (at least for me) wasn't that serious
you didn't get your hopes up or down. you just booted up your console and played

>>714043840
Heavy on a lot more experimental games. Games weren’t afraid to be different back then. Lots more unique art styles and idea exploration, more so than games nowadays

>>714043950
I hate that almost everyone uses unreal engine. most games feel and nearly look the same

>>714025828 (OP)
It weas the last gen I had anyone to play with. :((((((

>>714042802
Not really. PS2's success wasn't by chance - the PS1 sold about as much as Wii. Its successor was positioned for success years in advance. What Nintendo did didn't really matter, not with the N64 and not with the Gamecube. And sure, Melee is an incredible game and it sold very well on Gamecube, but weighed against the juggernaut that was PS2 even it was peanuts. The only entity that could beat Sony at this time was Sony, and they did precisely that when they dropped the ball on PS3's early years so Nintendo and Microsoft could slip some market share in. Melee was good, but not "stands up to PS2" good. No Nintendo or Microsoft exclusive was.

>>714046114
>PS2's success wasn't by chance
Sony was afraid of that otherwise they wouldn't add the DVD layer function to it, apparently some treat that feature as important over... well, games

>but weighed against the juggernaut that was PS2 even it was peanuts.
Which speaks volumes on Melee's worth since it kept its system somewhat relevant in the prescence of a juggernaut like ps2 that by 2003 was already in full motion.

>Melee was good, but not "stands up to PS2" good. No Nintendo or Microsoft exclusive was.
Sorry anon but that's simply not true. Halo being a phenomenon for Xbox is evidence just as Melee keeping GC alive to the audience's eyes. And that's leaving out the performance because Xbox and GC not only stand up but obliterate PS2 in the technical side.

>>714025902

>>714046114
Yeah, Melee sold about 7 million copies while there were about 160 million PS2s. Even if you pretend 90% of sales were as cheap DVD players, the last 10% still crushes Melee

>>714042856
>beloved classics are... le BAD!
Some of them are, yes. Try to think for yourself instead of being an NPC retard.

>>714047054
>focusing on sales only
You miss the point; the fact a game could turn heads from PS2's dominion is a big sign of standing up to it.

>160 millions
*180.5 millions

>>714025828 (OP)
My grandparents got me a PS2 for Christmas in 2001 and then my mom's boyfriend stole it and pawned it for alcohol.

>>714047259
>the fact a game could turn heads from PS2's dominion is a big sign of standing up to it
you lost so you're trying to make up a new category in which you won

>>714047402
>you lost so you're trying to make up a new category in which you won
You're retarded if you think PS2's dominance and success is about sale numbers and economic success.

>>714025828 (OP)
We need to go back

>>714046905
>they wouldn't add the DVD layer function to it
PS1 was a CD player and prioritized FMV capacities as a core feature. Playstation was never 100% about video games and gameplay, they've always pushed the cinematic experience. PS1 was just very rudimentary about it.

>since it kept its system somewhat relevant
Never argued that it didn't. I'm saying that there wasn't any shot of PS2 losing its position. It launched a year ahead of any real competition, knocked out Dreamcast more or less because it existed, and had a year of footing before Gamecube or Xbox even launched, never mind the sheer brand value of being the PS1's successor.

>Halo being a phenomenon for Xbox is evidence just as Melee keeping GC alive to the audience's eyes.
I feel like we're on two different pages here. Yes, those were verifiable successes and boons to their respective platforms. No, they were never a real threat to the PS2's market share. If Sony stayed their course, they were fine and the others weren't catching up. Guess what happened? Sony stayed their course, and no one came fucking close to catching up.

>Xbox and GC not only stand up but obliterate PS2 in the technical side.
True, but this rarely translates to market share. PS3 obliterated Wii on the technicals and Nintendo came out ahead on that one. Hell, PS1 wasn't the most powerful console of its gen and it decimated the competition.

>>714025828 (OP)
>shitcube
cubies trying to shoehorn their hrtbox into the golden age will never not be funny
theres a reason why everyone who owned that pile of dogshit was a fat spastic transsexual <— you can see evidence of this even today with sodomites like cosmo wright and the smelee groomers still being the laughing stock of gameing

>>714047767
>Playstation was never 100% about video games and gameplay, they've always pushed the cinematic experience
No, that was on PS2. PS1 was about bring game experiences not found on consoles at the time (but PC), not quite the same. Also, in ps1 they fostered devs to create games for it like Crash Bandicoot. It was about games not cinematic crap, that was merely hinting itself that generation.

>PS3 obliterated Wii on the technicals
No, that time Sony shot itself on the foot. PS3 was a mess aside its hardware roof but no dev tapped that potential.

>>714025828 (OP)
I miss it dearly.
It was worse in hindsight, but it was so, so much simpler. I could completely miss elections going on. I could still get my friends around a table for D&D, I could hit a lobby with a couple bros or go splitscreen with my dad on BO1 zombies.

This world has become far, far too tiresome. We will never get it back, and that hoillows me in a way I can scarcely express- other than this moment, right now, where I trace the edges of me where that reasonably happy child used to be.

...and yeah, yeah, i know it's soft faggot shit or whatever, but I don't care. I miss when P3P and KH2 were a couple of the best fucking games I'd played.

>>714025828 (OP)
It was very nice
But it wasn't like there weren't problems
Sometime I wonder if I remember this time period for games so fondly because they were an escape from shitty things in reality

>>714025828 (OP)
I only had Gamecube. Not a lot of games worth playing.

>>714048207
>It was about games not cinematic crap, that was merely hinting itself that generation.
I did say it was rudimentary, but you have stone cold classics like Final Fantasy VII and Metal Gear Solid that made their name on pushing the limits of PS1's cinematic capacities. It got much more egregious later on, but PS1 was still pushing games in that direction.

>No, that time Sony shot itself on the foot.
Also some very clever marketing from Nintendo but yes, that is how it happened. Point is, just because a console is powerful doesn't necessarily mean it wins off of that alone.