Thread 714079712

Serious question. How do you make a character have or receive a disability in a videogame without it looking like pandering? Obviously the Khadgar wheelchair thing is retarded because he was literally vaporized and then just poofs back completely fine except is now just wheeling around in a purple chair. But there has to be a way where it can work naturally, and even be cool in a "battle scarred" kind of way.

Does anyone have any good examples of that?

Magical hover chairs. Star Wars did it two decades ago and no one cared because it fit the setting.

you don't, everyone is hyper-sensitive to this sort of thing. also everyone loves being outraged.

>>714079712 (OP)
>Obviously the Khadgar wheelchair thing is retarded because he was literally vaporized and then just poofs back completely fine except is now just wheeling around in a purple chair.
Get real, he was just teleported by the dagger and had days of continuous pelvis breaking sex.
Then after a while, "CHAMPIONS! I'm glad to be back here!". However, he's now a sex slave for the dagger.

If the nigga can magic himself a floating fucking wheelchair, he can magic himself to make it LOOK like he is walking. He could be floating just a centimeter off the ground, with his legs mimicking the action of walking. This is just begging for good boy points.
Losing a limb in a fantasy setting is an opportunity for a magical upgrade, not the time to whip out the handicap parking stickers

>>714079869
>he can magic himself to make it LOOK like he is walking.
Sounds like a waste of magic. Something to sit on makes way more sense than using magic to force yourself to walk for vanity's sake.

>>714080034
If it floats, why does it need wheels?

>>714079712 (OP)
If the character is impaired in his movement then don't make him a physical fighter like professor x in X-Men. Otherwise disability works just fine. Like blind and deaf was done countless of times and there is no problem. Obviously don't have wheelchairs in fantasy and medieval settings because they just feel retarded to be there.

>>714080112
Because how would you know he was disabled if it didn’t look like a wheelchair?!

>>714080112
To move in the no fly zones duh

>How do you make a character have or receive a disability in a videogame without it looking like pandering?
First you need to be absolutely fucking sure there is no healing / resurrection magic in your setting AT ALL

>>714079712 (OP)
>Obviously the Khadgar wheelchair thing is retarded because he was literally vaporized and then just poofs back completely fine except is now just wheeling around in a purple chair.
He disintegrated himself into Arcane energy that then got blended with the Void.
It literally killed him when he managed to get back out.

>>714079712 (OP)
>How do you make a character have or receive a disability in a videogame without it looking like pandering?
Cut off his legs in a universe where healing magic can't grow limbs back.

>>714080034
>Something to sit on makes way more sense than using magic to force yourself to walk for vanity's sake.
He wouldn't need to walk, retard, just float.

>>714079712 (OP)
>Gnomes have steam walkers and other shit that would make magic wheelchairs obsolete
Seeing a person using a magic wheelchair has to be like seeing a vegan

>>714080034
>waste of magic
Its fucking magic, he has the entire power of the universe at his disposal. Having a magic aura coming off your legs at all times sounds threatening as hell, this guy looks like he needs help getting in and out of bed

The thing people don't understand about Khadgar's wheelchair is that he isn't rhe one who conjured it, his girlfriend did. He's mainly using it because he wants to make her happy even though he can walk.
Also he's like 60 now and enjoys having a seat.

>>714079712 (OP)
>missing eye, get a cool eyepatch or cyborg eye
>missing hand or leg get a cool peg leg or claw

>>714079712 (OP)
A cool Chuuni fight scene where the character loses and eye in a last second sword slash by the antagonist.

>>714079712 (OP)
MGS4, MGS5, MGR

>>714079712 (OP)
darth vader is a great example of a battle cripple

>>714080034
>Sounds like a waste of magic
So is a wheelchair. He could magic himself a simple floating disc or a flying carpet or, yanno, a normal chair without wheels??

>>714080640
I agree we need more John Silvers in videogames.

Just be glad he didn't give himself magic vitiligo to go with the cuckchair

>>714079712 (OP)
>be mage of awesome power
>use mana to manipulate the body
>???
>profit

Problem is modern writers/designers are kneecapped by themselves/peers/HR/higher ups or political commissars.

There's lot in sci-fi to boot like Darth Vader.

>>714080972
Problem is calling modern faggots - writers. They are not.

>>714079712 (OP)
You don't talk about it or give it any stupid special treatment. Unbelievably one of the only games to do it right was The Surge.

>>714079712 (OP)
Khadgar should've died and remained as the Wonderball

>>714079712 (OP)
unironically xiv did this with y'shtola's blindness

>>714080034
You are wrong on a mathematical level. I will write an equation and explain.

>to use wheelchair, Khadgar must conjure it (x), make it float (y).
>therefore, Khadgar must cast x + y constantly to use his wheelchair
>instead, khadgar can simply make himself float (y) and not conjure the wheelchair and maintain its mass and make its mass float at all, thus eliminating an entire step
>casting x is shorter than casting x + y

As you can see, mathematically it is easier for him to just float himself. Let alone even conjuring wheels on the fucking thing if he's flying around on it regardless. Wheelchair people must feel so patronized and insulted by this bullshit, it's akin to those token black characters in the 90s in every sitcom.

>>714081515
No, she needs to have pink aether sunglasses and cane. How else will anyone know she is blind?

>>714079712 (OP)
If it’s a serious plotline then it can work. Bentley from Sly 2 and 3 was the only instance where it worked well. He got injured in 2 and they kept going with it. It’s the same with diversity too - characters like Lee from Walking Dead and even Cole from Gears of War are interesting and nuanced.

>>714079712 (OP)
Rdr2 has several crippled characters who are missing limbs and use some kind of device.

Wheel chairs weren't invented yet. They dont look pandering at all because theyre portrayed realistically.

>>714079712 (OP)
Don't make them disabled. Make them enabled. They are deficient, but their deficiency has heightened their power elsewhere- whether by unlocking something, by focusing them on a skill that others usually ignore, or by just being so powerful that they can afford that disability.
And don't make purple glowing wheelchairs. Wheelchairs are hardly practical IRL, even less in a setting with bad roads and levitation. It can be a floating chair, but then you don't need the wheels.

>>714079712 (OP)
Integrate it with the character in a way. In one of my fantasies I have a mage type girl whose legs are so weak she can barely stand because she chooses to float everywhere and so never gets any use out of them, so walking and running on the bare ground would be comparable to making her seasick.

>>714079712 (OP)
Vatnik thread? Vatnik thread!

>>714082550
Cute idea!

>>714079712 (OP)
Why does it have wheels if it's flying all the time?

>>714084308
Thanks anon. I don't know what to do with all these ideas so they just sit in my notepad all day. One day I'll do make something with them

>>714079712 (OP)
Literally just make it a floating palenquin or something other than a recolor of their existing wheelchair model

>>714079712 (OP)
Once when I was doing some business in one of the worse districts of town, I got ambushed by this fat, black skinned trans woman in a real life combat wheelchair.
Despite the thing being made mostly out of wood, I would almost say that this thing has been a quite impressive feat of engineering, if it wasn't for the fact that it's an evil, disgusting, woke object that needs to be wiped off this earth.
Anyway, the tranny puled out a huge sword and charged at me with xis combat wheelchair. Luckily, since a combat wheelchair is super cumbersome and awkward, sidestepping the attack took me no effort and the imbecile charged right into a wall because xe couldn't stop xer wheelchair.
Then, after getting behind the combat wheelchair where the tranny couldn't hit me because turning a combat wheelchair is slower than I can move, with a mighty kick I sent the tranny and xis combat wheelchair to the floor, which actually took me all my strength because xe has so darn obese and heavy.
Lying defenseless and prone on the floor, like one of those prone crawler zombies, the troon grasped for xis sword, which was lying a few feet away from xim, but with a swift motion of my foot, I kicked the sword out of xis range.
I then prosceeded to stomp xis head into red paste.
I set the combat wheelchair on fire afterwards because I hate woke objects.
Combat wheelchairs just do not work in real life. They are retarded.

>>714079869
>>714082517
what these anons said, basically. no one thinks of Barret from FF7 as 'disabled' because his mini-gun prosthetic is cool as fuck

Elden Ring is a recent game that did it pretty well with the albinauric girls. albinaurics are fundamentally flawed beings that lose the ability to use their legs early in their life, so the mountain albinauric girls taught themselves to use bows and domesticate wolves to ride into battle, princess-style and barefoot. pure kino

Someone fill me in on all this sudden wheelie nonsense. Did wow just have a content update that made Khadgar a cripple or is this something old that just got dug up for shitposting reasons.

This is why Hitler wanted to euthanize disabled people btw, not because they were useless, but because he KNEW it would come to this

>>714079712 (OP)
it already exists, character being blind, having only one eye, a wooden leg, daredevil...

leftists and you ar ejust total fucking retards and to you it doesnt count. same way european diversity from different countries isnt diversity to you, it HAS to be black because you are total idiots working for psychopaths who want to rule the world

>not flying around on a magic orb
grim

>>714079712 (OP)
why is he even in a wheelchair? last i remember he was able to walk around, did he get magic boneitis or something?

>>714079712 (OP)
>How do you make a character have or receive a disability in a videogame without it looking like pandering?
Interesting that the presupposition is that you HAVE to have a cripple in your video game.
>But there has to be a way where it can work naturally, and even be cool in a "battle scarred" kind of way
The game already had that, years and years ago, picrel is from 2007. But it's not a wheelchair so it's not obvious handicap in a way in which you can virtue signal when you insert it into your game, and that's the purpose of the Khadgar wheelchair.

The orc in the picture isn't any less dangerous or capable of disemboweling you, while the wheelchair is universally understood as pity worthy. So while one handicap isn't a virtue signal because it is part of the character's power level, the other is included solely because it's so obviously disempowering to the character, so whoever made the choice to put the character in a wheelchair can safely jack off to their moral superiority without being threatened by the possibility that not EVERYONE would see how good and moral and special they are.

>>714085495
>so the mountain albinauric girls taught themselves to use bows and domesticate wolves to ride into battle, princess-style and barefoot. pure kino
and the males just lay on the floor like dead fish for some reason

>>714082517
i love Starlia

The strongest wheelchair

>>714079712 (OP)
Who wore it better?

>>714091158
>the land of the backdoor
weak to anal

>>714080034
Instead he has a purple wheelchair for vanity's sake, much better!

>>714091292
>dragon
>can fucking fly
>uses a wheelchair
>orc shaman
>can summon any elemental to do his biddings
>uses a wheelchair instead
>archmage khagdar
>etc etc
blizzard is retarded

>>714089619
>remove one hand and replacing it with a blade
Based
>removing both hands and becoming unable to wipe your own ass or scratch any itches
Cringe. Why did main universe Kargath go full retard?

>>714079869
>If the nigga can magic himself a floating fucking wheelchair
He can't. He was vaporized into pure mana for a couple weeks and his waifu personally conjured the chair for him until he recovers.

>>714079712 (OP)
>How do you make a character have or receive a disability in a videogame without it looking like pandering?
You don't. It's been overused and abused so much that the concept has jumped the shark and can't even be done with good intentions now.
Thank the people who are doing the same to vitiligo.

What's the point of even arguing about this? Do you think you're going to convince these retards that they are retarded? Just laughing and them is what you should do

>>714092236
But the only reason it looks like a wheel chair is for diversity points. There’s no reason it couldn’t just be a floating anything.

>>714092497
Modera gets off on pushing her silver fox around in a wheelchair.

>>714092202
you can probably detach it anon

>>714092497
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaP-UzpxdHo

>>714079712 (OP)
Actual injuries ground the reality of war into the bodies of those who partake in it. Grueling cinematics of disememberment, of weapons swinging - and carving - into flesh, those who still live cloaked in scars, though lofty their ambitions might be war would always take its pound of flesh.

Nothing Blizzard could ever make, basically, give up.

>world where healing exists
>but it is very expensive
>people can't afford the treatment so are in a wheelchair
There, now it isn't pandering. You have 'representation' and also internal logical consistency.

t. disabled

>>714079712 (OP)
I work professionally with the disabled. When I see this shit it screams disability fetish, either people with the fetish of being disabled, like say that one furry who froze his hands off and had them replaced with paws or with the fetish of caring for the disabled. See muchausen and muchausen by proxy.

If you're going to be fetishy, you need to give no fucks and live with the consequenses.

You got the core right when you said "naturally", as it needs to fit the gameplay, the genre, the internal logic of the world.

In this game world, as anon notes, they have full resurection magic, gnomish steampunk engineers, and the dude is a super wizard.


>>714079836
You have NO sack. And not in the good way.

>>714079712 (OP)
The problem is them wanting to pander so hard, it loops back and becomes insulting, degrading, and infantalizing.
They could've done the easy thing of literal hover chair, or have him stay in a safe location and project an image when needed.
They could've given him prothetics, either mechanical, or heavily enchanted to the point where it's veering into Cyberpunk territory.
Hell, Cyberpunk did it better in spite of how woke it is.
No, the real problem, is how lazy they have gotten. Blatant zoom ins to hide not animating legs, or how they don't know how to script them fighting.

What I've learned over the years, is the real WoW killer, was WoW.

>>714091905
>revealed in RoF that he never trained a day in his life
The chair really was just him being a lazy fuck, wasn't it?

>>714079712 (OP)
>How do you make a character have or receive a disability in a videogame without it looking like pandering
Point out that the character now has severe limitations compared to other non-crippled people and make him hate being crippled with a burning passion.

>>714079712 (OP)
Is this a JoJo reference?
>How do you make a character have or receive a disability in a videogame without it looking like pandering?
Media has literally always had disabled characters in it without it feeling like pandering. They do it by having it make sense for the setting. That's it. Eyepatches, prosthetics, seismic sense, floating, etc.

>>714080034
If the idea is to save up magic he should just conjure a solid purple chair model instead of wasting mana to add a wood texture and metal parts to it

>>714093186
This
Every single actual disabled person is have known HATES being pandered too

>>714093613
Even Warcraft used to. Just off the top of my head
>Zul'jin (intentionally) missing an arm
>Kilrogg gouge out one of his eyes
>Illidan being blind
These characters were all very cool and had lore behind their disability. They went too far with Faerin's disabilities, and the deaf centaur and Khadgar are just embarrassing levels of pandering.

>>714093283
>in spite of how woke it is
It's literally a game trying to be realistic, you think 'woke' is going to go away by 2077?

>>714094305
illidan is not blind

>>714094402
I meant to put that in quotes becauseI knew a faggot redditor would argue semantics. He sees but it isn't true sight from his eyes (which aren't there).

>>714094402
he's deaf

>>714085495
>and barefoot
That's a weird detail to focus on, anon.

>>714079712 (OP)
You have two options when it comes to disabilities in games, and they're both inherently tied into character design having some kind of meaning. Ideally you should do both at once.
>Make it look cool
>Make it a gameplay mechanic
The latter is easily accomplished through shit like cybernetics, I admittedly have a weakness for robot arms with built-in weapons but it's an easy way to give the character extra mechanics. Legs, likewise, open up movement options depending on what you pick. Even a wheelchair can be used for interesting shit in a platformer; Sly 3 pulled it off.
The former is about style; floating purple wheelchair looks retarded. It should at least be something more imposing like a throne if it doesn't actually need to go over the ground. Alternatively you could permanently affix him to some kind of animal companion he has to ride, give him mechanical spider legs, give him tank treads, some kind of magitech exoskeleton to move his legs, or simply have him so hopped up on magical power he's constantly floating. All of these would look cooler than what they actually went with, and I came up with them in a few minutes, and I'm some retard on a Mongolian basket weaving forum.

>>714081626
>>714094016
It's closer to how 4chan saw the Law and Order 4chan episode. A complete fucking joke, and probably a scam to take government dollars. Note that they aren't necessarily against "representation", but it should be something fucking cool and fits.

I have a dozen people in wheelchairs in my office now, and I polled them. Not one of them wanted that thing. Here's my results.

Magic fucking Carpet.
Getting princess carried everwhere by a seraph angel (MTG).
The exoskeleton from Expedition 33.?
Gnomish flying machine.
A fucking Zoid.
Riding on the back of a big beefy samoan. EG Master/Blaster from Mad Max. Pic related.
Are cyberlegs a copout? Otherwise, an Ultramarine Dreadnaught (40k?) Baby Commando.(Capcom)
A litter carried by chained hot tauren bitches in bikiinis.
A chariot of the gods, like thor or apollo, except with griffons or harpies.
Riding on the back of a green fucking tiger like He Man.
Tensers floating disk (ADD), or better yet, the throne of the king of england on Tenser's floating disk, other thrones like one of skulls or the sword of thrones if appropriate.
Turning the bottom half of your body to a whirlwind like a genie. Transformation magic in general., (She is totally not a furry and insists I include that. ).

So there you have it. Actiblizz has a diversity matrix and literal consultants, eat my goddam ass. And as you can see, random anons have a better grasp on what a fucking c3-4 quadriplegic wants for representation than those dickwads.

Ming-Hua from Avatar legend of Korra was a good example - missing arms, it's never acknowledged or talked about and the waterbending she did was her using water for "arms". Worked great, looked cool, and didn't need some kind of scene that focused explicitly on the fact she didn't have arms and weave some long backstory.

wheelchairs are pathetic
and you know this

>>714092910
I'm sorry, this is ableism, best we can do is an overpowered fucking magical wheelchair that just does fucking everything. Also you get a free wheelchair from your god when you break your legs. It's also super overpowered. That's how you do it properly.

>>714079712 (OP)
Simple: don't make the disability everything about the character.

>>714079712 (OP)
>can it
no, its a game with magic and mounts.
Wheels suck if you don't expect to live in a civilized world with streets and ramps and elevator.
A magical walking chair would've been better literally anything else

>>714079712 (OP)
dude lost his whole ass arm so now he just wears a cool shoulder cape to hide the stub and still kicks your ass

in a fantasy seetting nah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=Om5Dv8QfEAA

>>714079712 (OP)
>But there has to be a way where it can work naturally, and even be cool in a "battle scarred" kind of way.
In a setting filled with arcane technology and magic? Only with magic that makes it impossible to fix it -- curses, "null/void" magic etc..

>>714079712 (OP)
turn him into a killing machine

>>714079712 (OP)
You can't because it was never about anything but pandering. If the world has magic disabilities it shouldn't be a problem. If the world doesn't, you just don't exist, since it's a simple waste of human resources, literally and metaphorically.

It's not a question of how you make it work so it doesn't look like it's a political statement. It's a political statement by its nature, it shouldn't be questioned or justified, it should be owned.

>>714082517
Anon that's what they tried to do with the shield "woman" the one with one arm

>>714079712 (OP)
I like how youtubers come here ask questions for answers for their videos and you tards answers them.This board is just nonstop data farmin now

Imagine a Souls boss that is just some old gramps in a wheelchair rolling away and summoning ghosts to beat you like the Tibia Marine.
Once you smash his wheelchair he collapses to the ground, but just a few seconds later his body stands up like he never had an issue standing. He turns the broken remains of his wheelchair into pic related and starts to 1on1 you, turning into a nimble maniac.
Only when you beat him, you see that he summoned a puppeteer ghost to control his body, fading away.

>>714079712 (OP)
>>714081515
>>714098259
>blind like yshtola
>missing arm like raubahn, dark skin as well
What else they took?

>>714079712 (OP)
Make them cool. Like Prof. X and Tank Chair.

>>714103347
Looks like she took the ugly from the Horde too

>>714079712 (OP)
FF14 did it pretty well with Arenveld I thought

The urge to play WoW for like a week is there again, please dissuade me from doing so.

>>714079712 (OP)
Prosthetic limbs are the answer. They look cool and they’re something a severely physically disabled person would want to have.

>>714103347
>lance = spear (estinien)
>elf like ears (siblings, urianger)
>light theme

>>714079712 (OP)
They'd hide their disability the best they could. This guy's a wizard for gods sake, he could hide it easily.

>>714079712 (OP)
>go into battle with
>fight side by side with
>show getting cut down by the enemy champion in cool ass duel
> lives, but now has
>war is still raging, doesn't have time to get a prosthetic
>after the war, they retire or get a prosthetic and continue serving
All of this hinges on not being in a setting where you can call up a priest or paladin to fix you though. Hell, Khadgar could've cast alter time or displacement to heal.

>>714103347
>Blizzard's version of Scions

>>714090039
The males pooled all their masculinity into that one guy on the Boar

>>714079712 (OP)
The only times I felt it was done right was in FFXIV with Raubahn and in the first How to Train Your Dragon, when Hiccup looks down and realizes he lost a leg.

>>714093613
That small section where he's rooted trying to time his slice for Crimson with the blood was one of the best parts of Part 5 and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.

>>714079712 (OP)
I think Starcraft's Dragoons are a pretty cool concept.

Whenever a Protoss warrior is severely injured beyond total repair in combat, his body is recovered and put into a Dragoon, a mechanical unit that acts as both a mobile ICU and a mech.

>>714079712 (OP)
Mc is a mute silent protagonist. Play more video games faggot

>>714095060
Genuine question, why do you have so many coworkers in wheelchairs? Is it just the size of the company (if 1 in X are disabled in the general population, your company has 12X employees), or do you specialize in something that requires wheelchair-bound employees? Or is it just a big coincidence (ex. recent accidents)?

>A litter carried by chained hot tauren bitches in bikiinis.
>(She is totally not a furry and insists I include that.)
I am amused.

>>714079869
Khadgar knows that sitting is a wonderful thing to do and he deserves to relax.

>>714079712 (OP)
>An adventurer in a fucking wheelchair...
>Is a fucking cleric that can literally cure paralysis with magic
It's mental retardation.
Someone made a video mocking this:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/GPZb3yq_O0Y

>>714092236
>honey, sit on this chair while I fuck tyrokk blackbull

>>714079712 (OP)
>without it looking like pandering?
by not pandering, obviously
it's not that complicated
if your writing at any point involves someone refusing a solution that the worlds lore has established, then you're a retard and should be fired
if at any point you write some dumb shit about disability being their identity or important to it, sacked, out the door
nobody would be disabled because you have made a setting which has the power to solve the problem and thus every instance exists because you have made them REFUSE to accept the easy solution available
make a fucking setting where solutions aren't available, or make them embrace the solutions. that's it, that's your only goddamn options if you aren't retarded and incompetent at writing
the incredibly obvious fucking unavoidable point however is that in settings, disabled people aren't going to be your main characters, they're not going to be fighting, they're severely fucking hindered and you cannot hand wave it away as a minor inconvenience. they would either accept the solutions to return to being competent - you cannot "make up" for severe disabilities to be on even footing with those not hindered - or they would be fucking strategists and desk guys, nothing more

>>714104654
>>714079712 (OP)
XIV does this with both Raubahn, and the wheelchair dude Arenvald
Some wounds are too great to be healed by the majority of healers. An Ascian could probably fix that, or other characters could try to give them a robotic limb, but prosthetics like that are far and few between, plus it likely wouldn't be durable enough, at least in the case of Raubahn who's a really heavy hitter

>>714079712 (OP)
He got hurt when xal void volley'd him into the wall, not when he got absorbed

>>714105114
>Any female character has their breasts reduced to any extent
do you make an exception for lolification

>How do you make a character have or receive a disability in a videogame without it looking like pandering?
you don't, why would you do that in the first place?
if you want to do that, at least do it in a cool way, like giving guy a cool eye patch and some scars on the face, make him masculine and stuff, or if character has no arm then give him a cool robotic arm instead like in DMC5 or Sekiro or Lies of P, MGS5 etc. or if you want to have a completly blind character make him a monk who developed a 6th sence and is able to predict movement and shit
just don't make it fucking LAME

>>714079712 (OP)
Is this an offical picture from Blizzard?

>>714079712 (OP)
Learn to laugh at yourself and be funny

>>714079712 (OP)
I liked the Harry Mason wheelchair kart in shattered memories for about 30 seconds before it got lame as fuck

>>714079712 (OP)
You do it by being honest.
Some poor random fucker in a wheelchair? Makes sense, he doesn't have another option.
One of the most powerful archmages in the world? In a pink wheelchair? Seems retarded. Give him something that looks more arcane if you want him to be sitting. But you don't want that, because you're dishonest. You want him to be in a regular wheelchair for pandering. No one gives a shit about Professor X sitting in a wheelchair. It looks cool. Like some tech shit, bordering on a flying car or something. Why doesn't Khadgar get something cool?

literally what the fuck has even happened in this expansion besides destroying dalaran for no good narrative reason and putting khadgar in a wheelchair?

>>714079712 (OP)
Professor X.
It's a solved problem.
Blizzard just sucks ass.

>>714079712 (OP)
Is the injury related to the plot or gameplay? If no, why include it?
Does the setting have a logical way to heal or mitigate the injury? If yes, then why not use it?

>>714106518
Nothing has happened in any wow expansion at all anywhere except cataclysm. These are the consequences of live service games; narrative credibility does not exist

>>714094016
I remember when Dr Who changed Davros to not be in a wheelchair anymore
>This decision was made to avoid associating disability with evil, as Davies felt it was problematic to portray a villainous character, Davros, as a person with disabilities
People in wheelchairs were pissed

>>714106914
>This post automatically tells other users that the poster is upset about negative news

Professor X is a cool way to do wheelchair. He is one of the most powerful mutant, but because he is in a wheelchair, he can't always be on the field fighting unless the X-men help him to.

>>714079712 (OP)
Show it for what it is, a disability not an upgrade.

Some kind of fantasy dwarf character with a retarded steampunk coal or diesel powered wheel chair which is like 3 times the size of a normal one. Maybe even 5 times as large. It would have like two cannons on the sides and some sort of mini gun or something he can operate on the front of it.

>>714079712 (OP)
>Serious question. How do you make a character have or receive a disability in a videogame without it looking like pandering?
just make it a cyberpunk game. everyone's a fucking cripple in cyberpunk anyways, they just have robot legs. a guy rolling around on robot wheels is nothing unusual.

>>714109006
ZOOLAHOO

>>714080112
He never said it needs wheels. He could be talking about a simple floating chair instead of the pink cuck wheelchair

>>714079712 (OP)
Serious question what the fuck am I looking at?

>>714111335
The most powerful archmage in WoW got crippled by a dagger with cute feet so now he's sitting in a magical pink cuckchair

>>714104980
I work with disabled people professionally. Special ed at the university level. All sorts of disabilities.

>>714101952
I don't give a fuck if someone takes my tale and gets motherfuckers to like and subscribe. There are bitches out there begging for trash like arachnophobia mode and calling it accessibility, and getting PAID for it.

>>714111552
This shit is beyond gay

To be fair, I don't think he is permanently in the chair. I think he's just drained. We saw him walking (with assistance) when we rescued him.

>>714111680
Neat, thanks for satiating my curiosity.

>>714079712 (OP)
>World of Human Resources Craft.
Absolutely fucking grim. What are the raids now, dunking as many white male CV's into lava?

GAY SHIT.

>>714103641
Borderline mandatory quest to help gay centaurs get married.

>>714103641
are you stupid or something? if you still need convincing to not play this humiliation ritual game in 2025 just go ahead and give blizzard all your life savings and go live under a bridge.

Fear and Hunger 2 Termina, Olivia Haas. The game makes you get out of the chair and crawl up any stairs at like 0.25 speed. Physical attacks can knock her out of her chair too and it takes a full turn to re-equip it. The best part? She's the canon run character.

>>714079712 (OP)
It wouldn't even be that retarded if it just didn't have fucking wheels. That's what makes it such obvious pandering.

>>714079712 (OP)
By using prosthetics that look cool but in no way could ever actually function. Or by using a mechanical leg suit like one have if iron Man that also looks cool but could in no way actually function.

>>714079712 (OP)
Just make the fucking chair, throne, mobile walker, etct fit the setting and what they're doing and nobody would bitch. Make it so there are a variety of skin conditions and disfigurements you can add to your character instead of fucking vitilogo every time and nobody will care. Have your fucking pronoun choices but give back male and female bodies and nobody will care.

>>714103641
if you actually, UNIRONICALLY still want to play this game after this dogshit thread nothing anyone will say will stop you. you are a blizzdrone and will remain so until you 41%

>>714085495
>and barefoot. pure kino
completely unnecessary

I remember when OW first came out, there was some speculation that Pharah was quadriplegic, and she was actually just a torso stuck in a mech suit. I think this was because from some angles, the joints of her suit seem too small to fit an actual human limb inside of.

Anyways, I thought that idea was cool and didn't feel like pandering. Early OW as a whole is probably a decent example of how to DEI max without it feeling like pandering, actually. The cast was specifically designed with diversity in mind, but the character designs were cool so people mostly didn't give a shit. It certainly helped a lot that people had less fatigue for this kind of shit in 2016, though.

>>714079869
Because Levitate is a Priest spell, and Khadgar is a Mage. Mages only get Slow Fall.

>>714079712 (OP)
Just give him a better mount that he’s gay with.

>>714116882
In Bloodborne there's an enemy that is this picture, but instead of a cute anime girl it's a grumpy old British man.

>>714082602
If not wanting retarded pandering makes me Russian then I'm fucking Catharine the Great.

>>714118931
grumpy old british men can be cute anime girls

>>714079712 (OP)
>Even in a fantasy world were the power of resurrection exits, you will still be crippled, goy.
Goyim demoralization tactic, simple as.

>>714079712 (OP)
you badass it, which WoW does not do anymore they instead babify everything.

We solved this nigga, armless guy gets a cool metal arm or a hook like a fucking pirate
Missing an eye congrats you get an eyepatch and will always look badass.
Missing legs? you either use your MAGIC to hover and vibe or something else. But a fucking wheelchair kill yourself.
Why would Khadgar, god mage of alliance, need a wheelchair? He should be sitting down on an arcane disk 24/7 and having fun with it. Not sitting there reminding us of the horrors and plagues of our real world as hes turned into a fucking cripple who cant move up stairs unassisted.

>>714081515
Y'shtola's blindness is a complete meme. She can't see light the way we do now, but she can see aether, which is apparently even better than the light-based vision we all have, if a bit more taxing than using normal sight. The fact is that it arely even comes up anymore.
Hell, there are even contradictions sometimes that makes me think the writers straight up forgot that she's blind, like in Shadowbringers when she comments on the paintings on the walls after completing The Qitana Ravel.

>>714122536
everything is made up of aether so probably pigments as well
which basically meants she is hardly blind at all

>>714079712 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfMXGVarbjI

>>714103347
>>714103724
>>714104317
>Blizzard fan whose bubbled was popped during SL and who only played one game other than WoW proceeds to see Fino Fano in everything

Is there a worse kind of retard?

>>714103834
Wouldn't call that a disability as those things are basically walking ICU units. Still, it's 10000000x cooler than gaycraft's attempt.

Magic bitch. Don't pretend like the disability doesn't hinder the character.

>>714079712 (OP)
the shit with Khadgar is fine
how is it pandering when the guy has just 2 minutes of cutscenes and the wheelchair is not even the focus

>>714124597
it's gay and retarded when they live in a world with healing spells, healing potions and even fucking resurrect spells.

>>714091292
They all look like they weight way too much.

>>714103347
Nobody would mind if she didn't have ugly negrid face and hair.

the disability should be a plotpoint or an excuse for different gameplay. maybe you want an escort mission where the player has to follow defined paths so you make them escort someone in a wheelchair who cant take stairs. maybe you want to send the player on a fetch quest so his mom loses her legs and needs a magic carpet or some shit. if youre story and gameplay would be the same without a cripple then having one feels like pandering.
>>714092910
you could also go with more of a low magic healing (maybe it speeds up natural healing processes or something) so you can heal from wounds that would otherwise take a month or more of taking it easy (think broken bones, large wounds) while not being able to regenerate limbs. that way you could have healers in a party or healing items but still make the world believable.

This was unironically a good way to do it.

You ask cripples if they want to be crippled and they say no

>>714079809
What Star Wars character from the 2000 is this?

WoW has reached critical levels of gay and retarded. I think it's time to genocide the few remaining Blizzard fans.

>>714093186
>furry that froze his hands off
can I please have the story on this

>>714128728
just grok it.

>>714103641
just play turtle or some other private server, don't give blizzard any money

>>714128790
>>>/g/rok is this true?

>>714128728
It's definitely true that a dipshit furry fell asleep with his hands in dry ice and lost them as a result, but whether it was a fetish or stupidity is up for debate.

>>714124597
why is it a magic purple gay wheelchair and not just a regular wheelchair, that's what's really retarded about it

but also it's blizz, they're virtue signaling, it's inauthentic and self serving but they claim it's "for" disabled people. that's what's annoying about it.

>>714129048
damn that’s retarded. seems like it was 6 years ago but I can’t find what ever became of him

In a world with levitation magic, why would cripples use wheel chairs instead of just levitating in mid air?

>>714129567
The cripples would just want to not be crippled
This is just retards wanting cripples to be in a perpetual victimhood status so they can virtue signal.

>>714124597
Because it's a magic purple floating wheelchair instead of literally anything else
He's the strongest fucking wizard in Azeroth and this is what they give him instead of something cool looking?

if i ended up in a wheelchair i would 100% abuse it to do shit like cutting in line at theme parks
might as well, right

>>714079712 (OP)
>game has magic
>is a powerful sorcerer
>rather sit on a wheelie rather than floating like a real mage?

>>714079712 (OP)
Make it not be pandering by making the disability actually a disability. If you are perfectly capable of doing everything you used to be able to do, you aren't disabled. It mocks people that are actually disabled and entertains only woke retards that think they understand real suffering.

>>714079712 (OP)
Don't draw attention to it. Focus on writing a compelling character first and have their disability be a piece of background fluff that's only touched upon when it makes sense.

>>714079712 (OP)
Is this official art?

>>714128675
That green midget guy

>>714079712 (OP)
it's very easy, the simple way to do it is to ensure the disabled person is not an all powerful mage. It gets kinda silly when you pretend the demi-god has to roll himself around.

Old veteran warrior has a missing eye or limb? Makes perfect sense. No one even cares about it because it's not pandering bullshit that is at odds with reality.

>>714079712 (OP)
There are plenty of ways, but at the very fucking bottom of that list is a purely magical conveyance that looks like a wooden wheelchair. It's magic, why does it have wheels?

Jaina should have psoriasis disease to represent majority of wow players

>>714079712 (OP)
I still don't understand why Khadgar is even alive. He was cursed by Medivh to rapidly age years ago. His body should be crumbling by now.