What did the Sonic fanbase ever do to you? I ask you. You have NO REASON to be so nasty towards them.

They went from obnoxious autists to obnoxious tumblritas on par with a Steven Universe fan.

>>714090189
Fighting windmills.

>>714089231 (OP)
>What did the Sonic fanbase ever do to you?
Nothing specific, I just hate obnoxious waifufags that turn any thread into porn or thinly veiled suggestive pictures being spammed to the point of flooding out any discussion and Sonic threads are especially prone to that.

Sonic games haven't been good since the Genesis and I'm tired of people pretending anything 3D is remotely playable.

>>714089231 (OP)
Social pressure is how societal norms are maintained, and the sonicfags definitely need help with that. It's out of love OP.

>>714090189
Maybe there’s more than one type of Sonic fan.

the sonic fanbase has earned their reputation, lets not get it twisted

I dont have anything against sonic fans, I just associate them with chris chan so if you dsay you like sonic thats the kind of person I imagine you are.

They've been a punching bag for so long, they've turned into really bitter and vindicative assholes with paper thin skin, so my sympathy for them has turned into a desire to interact with them as little as possible, and this is coming from someone who likes some Sonic games, I don't hate it on principle. On that note, Shadow the Hedgehog is a fucking pile of garbage game and a tremendous waste of time, fuck all y'all for misleading me into thinking it was good, it's even worse than Heroes and uglier too.

>>714089231 (OP)
At least a third of it's the victim complex.
Sonic isn't even that much of an embarrassment anymore, there's like a half dozen fanbases that are worse, and I haven't taken a genuine swipe at you in like a decade. And yet here we are.

Playing sonic as a child gave me autism and destroyed all my life prospects

Youtubers in the 2010s told people what to think and the mindless goyim followed like sheep. Before youtube were 'counterculture' shitholes like somethingawful where sincerity bad and 100 layers of irony good.

The most soulful era in human history (90s) loved Sonic.

Sonic, you have no rhythm games. How is that possible?

>>714092814
That's because Sonic hadn't also built up a reputation at the time for producing constant mediocrity and underwhelming.

>>714093052
Nintendo's legacy has been entirely held up by their SNES and N64 hits (many of which they didn't make), and everything after that has been a plate of tedious slop. Modern nintendo games (especially gamefreak titles) run as bad as sonic unleashed did, and look infinitely worse.

>>714090595
You didn't like Mania?

Why is everyone dancing around the correct answer?

The reason is because of how ardently Sonic fans took up for the series even though you would point out how poorly developed the games were on a consistent basis. Eventually you just get sick of them trying to praise quality that doesn't deserve it and their inability to be reasonable if it meant accepting the series they loved as a kid no longer could hack it.

If they weren't part of that group then they were part of the segment that stopped enjoying the series after it declined because they have some sense of standards in the kinds of games they'll play, not simply because of the franchise it's attached to.

BLAH BLAH BLAH post Cream the Rabbit

>>714093516
CROSS WORLDS

>>714093583
Why is she allowed to pilot a racing vehicle at her age?

>>714089231 (OP)
I'm fine with the sonic fanbase.
The sonic the comics fanbase on the other hand, i see em basically like cenobites.
Chris chan is like a normal sonic the comics fan.

>>714093658
lmao funny post
I should lie in bed and read those for a couple of hours

>>714093361
The "bad quality" of sonic games is vastly overrated. Sonic 2006 is genuine garbage but let's not pretend that other games (dark souls) didn't have abysmal fps issues and jank.

Shadow the Hedgehog was ahead of its time and genuinely not that bad. Unleashed is fine. Colors was competent. Heroes is the only one I'd say is uniquely bad and that's because there was management fucking with the game engine near the end of development.

Lost World and Superstars are as bad as Skyward Sword, though, but those were made as an overcorrection to the backlash against sonic -- the "meta era"

>>714093658
The comics are kino of the highest order because they're so chaotic and retarded. I miss that era of gaming where it wasn't mainstream. you could NEVER get "evil sonic is a rapist" or "knuckles was microwaved as a baby". It's comedy gold.

But you're correct that CWC is spawned from the pool of early sonic comics. It's really apparent that Penders is the proto-CWC and influenced him greatly.

>>714093741
What's wrong with Lost World and Skyward Sword?

>>714093741
Mediocre is worse than bad.

>>714093983
That’s literally wrong.

>>714093923
sonic lost world/sonic superstars/zelda skyward sword all have the issue where they lean too far into their gimmicks without having much substance outside of it. They all have fantastic ideas (parkour, power-based exploration for platforming, motion control aiming and reading enemy movements during swordplay) that are ruined by their overreliance on them, and in general they all have awful padding because of development time getting cut short and/or lack of refinement outside their gimmicks.

>>714094185
I have no idea what gimmick super stars even has. I thought it was Mania but 3D2D

>>714094296
Emerald powers and shit bosses.

>>714094341
uH

>>714094341
It's phenomenal how much better superstars is if you mod out/skip the bosses.

>>714094602
Why? People seem to think the bosses are harder

Superstars is awesome. It feels like a metroidvania with levels.

>>714089231 (OP)
They started the only furry comic I was interested in, strung me along for a few years, then dropped it

>>714094819
It's insane how hot they made Rosemary and it was all on purpose. There was something soulful about old 70s-90s furry shit that modern stuff just can't match. Kemono is okay but it feels too "marketable mascot" inspired.

>>714095876
One might say it was "hot chick heaven"

>>714095992
Now we're in hell, and not only that, but the chicks also aren't even hot. Cowabummer, dude.

>>714093741
>Shadow the Hedgehog was ahead of its time and genuinely not that bad.
It is ahead of its time as in it's the first time Sonic Team aped another game directly to sell well in the west, like they would end up doing often in the future

>Colors\Lost World with Mario Galaxy
>Unleashed with God of War
>Whatever the Last One was called with BotW

And Shadow with Jak 2. After Jak 3 had released. That game is so craven and weasely in all the ideas it stole from Jak 2, 70% of its levels (specially the Hero and Villain objectives) consist of unplayable nightmare gimmicks that should have never been in a Sonic game. You cannot justify the presence of a slow moving turret section in a fucking Sonic game. The good guy/bad guy powers, the gunplay, the vehicle and all those gimmicky secondary objectives stick out of the game like tumors, cuz they are so badly done and pointless, specially compared to Jak. It's fucking terrible, it's so souless and desperate. And just like Heroes before, it's got terrible jungle gym assets plastered over levels, mandatory combat sections, and save for a couple, terrible fucking bosses. It sucks diseased cocks. It's much worse than Heroes and, in my opinion, the first truly terrible mainline Sonic game.

>>714097128
Jak deserved better but Sony did Total Mascot Series Death only to replace them with movieslop like uncharted or god of war.

What they did to Crash was criminal, even if Crash had probably outlived his game design barring a drastic reimagining of how the games should play out.

>>714089231 (OP)
>You have NO REASON to be so nasty towards them
They and sega deserve every curse for erasing Fiona.

>>714089231 (OP)
The fanbase itself is nasty towards each other. It doesn’t really need people outside of it for that.

>>714097501
>Naughty Dog ended prostituting themselves to make great value Indiana Jones and the Walking Dead
Criminal is the word yeah. Gen 7 was the end of the line.

>>714097646
This
I haven't bullied a sonic fan in years
Anything happening to them lately is them doing it to themselves

>>714090595
SA 1 and 2 are great games
>inb4 clip of somebody clipping into emerald coast which only happens on the half assed DX port

>>714089231 (OP)
they instigated the scourge known as CWC

>>714089231 (OP)
They hated the most ludokino game in the series

>>714089231 (OP)
They showed me Sonic's feet. I didn't want to see them. I didn't need to see them but know I have.

>>714093042
Which Sonic character should be the mascot for a Sonic rhythm game?

I can honestly only imagine a DDR spinoff, with each mode having its own mascot, like Sonic for Solo/Missions and Tails for free play. Would be hilarious if they had Eggman for the Workout mode some DDR games had.

Recommended Sonic games now that the Steam Sale is on?

I like Sonic but the fanbase kinda deserves the shit it gets.
Prior to pic related, the fucking ambassador for Sonic was some dude who loathed the series.
Let that sink in: Someone who was supposed to advocate for Sonic was someone who got paid by Sonic Team to openly mock Sonic and its fans.

>>714098794
Sonic Mania and SA2 are both 5 bucks each. SA1 is only 4 but it's a notoriously bad port.

>>714089231 (OP)
They were severely autistic in my view.

>>714089231 (OP)
Speaking as a Sonic "fan", I find it difficult to interact with the fanbase because everyone is fucking retarded and it feels like I am speaking with people with a hilarious amount of tunnel vision and nostalgia. None of them have marathoned the games recently to have both an objective and subjective view. I have. On top of that, I keep seeing the same old shitty myths about the development of the games and about cut content being parroted over and over again.
Not helping matters is the sheer autism around non-canon material. I like Archie and SATAM, but the sheer fucking autism wars over Archie, IDW and SATAM is actually unbearable.
But what makes things iffy for me, is that people would rather spend time begging SEGA and Sonic Team (both notoriously unreliable) to implement non-canon shit into canon. When it would be much better to straight up make fan works given that SEGA/Sonic Team has given the green light for fanworks. Imagine all that autism that was spent in shitflinging and screeching being used to make a genuinely passionate fan project. There's an actual absence of fan projects that aren't classic stuff and it actually bugs me considering how vocal the rest are.
Even though I am not a classicfag, I do have to respect them for actually putting the work in making their dreams come to life. But modernfags, archiefags and even Xfags need to pick up the pace.

>>714093741
I feel this is mostly correct. Playing Shadow 05 with the Reloaded mod actually surprised me given just how surprisingly fun it was, coupled with the retranslation mod and JP dub fixing the iffy writing, and I actually had a surprising blast with it. Heroes was good, but it's engine problems are so fucked up that even with mods it's tricky to work around with.
Sonic 06 is straight up iredeemable, only Project 06 fixed the gameplay and made the visuals actually consistent and interesting, but the actual story is straight up mostly unsalvagable.

>>714100319
>There's an actual absence of fan projects that aren't classic stuff and it actually bugs me
Agree
Pokemon has a fuckton of fan projects, almost all of which, even amateur ones, blow Pokemon's own shit out of the water, and that's with Pokemon actively resenting and trying to shut these projects down.
Sega will fucking PAY YOU if you make something good and approach them, and nobody does anything.

>>714089231 (OP)
Sonic is coolslop.

>>714094185
>parkour

I felt that parkour in Lost World was very underutilized, atleast in the WiiU version. 3DS made good of it in certain levels and wished there were more of that.

Shame parkour never went outside of Lost World.

>>714100707
>Coolslop
>Half the things posted aren't even cool
?????

>>714097646
This. The amount of infighting over things like what shade of blue Sonic should be.

>>714101061
>acknowledging even half of that set as cool

>>714101061
I think the gag is all the things on that image are "cool" if you've got fanboy-brains for them, but dorky and obnoxious if you're not. Harry Potter is on the same boat

>>714100319
i played all the classics + DIMPS sonics besides 3d blast in 2 months for /STHG/ and even participated in a bunch of fun time attack races in sonic origins and advance 3. Since my only game before those was sonic frontiers, I expected to hate all the non-boost games in the franchise since sonic feels pretty OP in frontiers.
I think people are mostly right about the franchise that the games arent especially fun on your first playthrough since you are relegated to the bottom route or equivalent for most of your play time. Sonic games don't really get fun until you replay the maps over and over again to explore for secrets and smooth out your runs so you can nail all the inputs or stay top path the whole time. It wasn't until people in /sthg/ started challenging me with time attacks that I appreciated sonic games. It's almost embarassing to have an opinion about sonic games before you do time attacks because the game is soooo much different when you are getting smooth runs (not necessarily speedruns) without mistakes or hesitations.
It feels like most people have an opinion from playing through the game like a campaign a few times and retaining nothing from it. Thats why I think sonic relies so much on spectacle and automation in the popular releases.

Im not gonna wait for sexual deviants to fire the first shot before I hate them.

>>714103116
This is all well and good for 2D and the first 2 3D Sonics on which even for a couple runs you get the gist of the stage and are able to get a good score or an A rank, but as early as Heroes, when the games start interrupting level design with weapons grade gimmicky garbage, it falls off a cliff. If you stay on the main neutral path, Shadow the Hedgehog isn't that bad, but half of the map is filled with such abysmal dogshit, as is basically all of 06's campaigns; the boost games have their 2D sections, Unleashed has the Werewolf sections... It's the same problem Bayonetta has that DMC hasn't, you're having fun and all of a sudden the game interrupts you with a QTE, or an escort mission, or a turret section, or a walkie talkie cutscene. I think those gimmicks are objective flaws within those games.

>>714104304
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>>714104489
Shoulda posted one of the combat sections ala Sonic Heroes that game has, guess what I blame for those. Because those rockets completely keep your momentum, and it, or the Sonic 3 Marble Zone tops are like the equivalent of the snowboard sections in the first two Adventure games, or those bars you spin and flip off of. Not even close to how terrible those "find all the enemies" missions of Shadow were. They were even worse than in Heroes, that's the kind of terrible I'm talking about.

>>714103116
I had a different experience. I hadn't played the games since I was a kid (and even then, I only played Heroes as a kid and later Colors and Generations when I was a teenager) and spent a lot of time playing other games in the meantime. I came back to the games like 2-3 years ago expecting them to age poorly, and instead it made me appreciate the games a lot more than expected.
Pretty much liked all the classics, no doubt about it. Nothing to add or say otherwise.
SA1 was genuinely a little disappointing (which is odd since it was the one I expected to be the most decent one) because I felt too much was halfbaked, the hub world needed more RPG elements and I feel every character needed unique levels to shine instead of repeating levels.
I went into SA2 expecting to not like it (I never played it before), surprisingly it became my favorite and it's the one that I felt had the most enjoyable replay value and probably remains the most content-packed Sonic game to this day
Heroes (ironically my childhood game) was an absolute disaster for me. I genuinely think the core gameplay and level design is great, but the repeated playthroughs + some of the unfair level design near the end + the bugginess made the game an actual chore to play through.
I already said what I said about Shadow 05 and how it surprised me in how good it was with the Reloaded mod. Sonic 06 was still ass. I am still on the DIMPS games so haven't touched Unleashed just yet.
So ironically, I wouldn't say it takes repeated playthroughs to enjoy the games, I ended up enjoying most of them on my first playthrough (barring Sonic 06 which I genuinely loathed and Heroes which was kind of a chore to play through).
>It's almost embarassing to have an opinion about sonic games before you do time attacks because the game is soooo much different
Interesting to say, I've yet to actually try the time attacks barring SA2, maybe I should try them. It was pretty fun for SA2, I will admit that.

>>714089231 (OP)
They take Sonic, which is a fairly cool mascot with fairly cool, former games, and overrate it into oblivion and cheer on its failures, and they treat sexy furry characters like people with rights and feelings like the fucking autists they are.

So fuck em.

>>714089231 (OP)
you autists might be occasionally cringy and have questionable taste in games, but you got me to jerk off to Rouge because of that thread yesterday. went down a rabbit hole of Sonic stuff on e6 afterward and rubbed another one out to Sonic porn later so you know what? you guys are alright, honestly. i see why you like that stuff.

>>714107991
You THINK they're alright, until you realize that the latest stint in Sonic Autism is to put feminist-friendly clothing on all the sexy characters and cheer on the rewriting of their characterization from sexually appealing eye-candy to overly canonical bore.

Autistic comic book illustrators and writers from the US are now put in charge of the "lore" of the games and they're injecting their own headcanons into the canon. It's no different than the reverse-sexism you see everywhere else in the industry.

Otherwise I concur. I barely finished Sonic Rush on Nintendo DS before I headed to R34 and jerked off furiously to Blaze the Cat and Cream the Rabbit for the first time, and that was all the way back in 2005. But that was only possible because there weren't autists putting long pants on them and taking it too seriously.

>>714107871
amy flashing her panties is the hottest thing

>>714106663
you might as well stick to generations or handhelds for time attacks since they were built for runs without interruption from mechanics or vehicles or whatever. Sonic advance 2 and 3 were the peak of time attacks since they have complete bullshit enemy and trap placements (like springs into bottomless pits or jumps into offscreen enemies) that all get alleviated when you learn what route to take on the map so the main source of frustration with those games goes away.

YES I FUCKING HAVE. YOU MOTHERFUCKERS REPRODUCED AND MADE THE FUCKING SONIC.EXE FANDOM, WHICH REPRODUCED ONCE AGAIN AND BECAME A EXE/CREEPYPASTA FANDOM. I COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT WHATEVER EDGY BULLSHIT YOU FAGS FIND """"SCARY"""""OR """"COOL"""""AS LONG AS YOU FAGGOTS STAY INSIDE YOUR CIRCLE.
BUT NO. YOU TOOK CORONATION PEACH AWAY FROM ME.
I WAS WORKING ON AN AMBITIOUS MARIO ANIMATED SERIES WITH CORONATION DAY PEACH AS THE MAIN ANTAGONIST, RE-CONTEXTUALIZING ITS CONCEPT WHILE RESPECTING THE SUBTLE AND AMBIGUOUS ATMOSPHERE. BUT NO.
YOU NIGGERS NOT ONLY DARED TO LEAVE YOUR CICLE, YOU ENTERED MINE. YOU TURNED CORONATION PEACH INTO A DOGSHIT EXE VARIANT, MAKING SHITTY FANART, CRINGE ASS HEADCANONS AND THOUSANDS OF PORN OF HER. THAT WAS LIKE BREAKING INTO MY HOME AND DRAWING ALL OVER MY FAMILY PHOTOS.
NOW MY INTERPRETATION OF HER CHARACTER WILL NEVER, EVER BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY BECAUSE OF YOU.
I DESIRE DEATH TO ALL SONIC AND EXE FANS. YOU RUIN EVERYTHING YOU TOUCH

>>714090189
Fpbp
TRVKE
>>714089231 (OP)
Sonic sold out to faggots trannies and blacks
Some rebel he is

>>714109840
That's Friday Night Funkins fault.

>>714109880
>>>/pol/

>>714089231 (OP)
You are all so easy to shit on, especially back in the timeframe of '06 and Boom.