Thread 714098868

>Dude what if we did Dark Souls, but christianity!
How did this shit not get boycotted?

>>714098868 (OP)
lol

>>714098868 (OP)
because it's cool and looks great

Unlike Amerimutts, Christians elsewhere are not religious and don't act like medieval lunatics.

>>714099813
>not religious
religious but in a sophisticated way*

>>714099813
>Christians elsewhere are not religious
If they're not religious, how are they christians

Because southern spain catholicism is a great aesthetic. Souls games wish they had it.

>>714098868 (OP)
>but christianity
*but specifically spanish catholocism and more specifically gnosticism
helps that its not actually christianity but a fundamentally different religions entirely

>>714100043
Out of habit and tradition.
Baptized, not practicing.

>>714100170
>more specifically gnosticism
lol

>>714100043
They don't bomb and murder people and throw a hissy fit over a pedophilic imbred profit

>>714100292
>actually those atheists are christians
lol

>>714100170
>not protestantism
You have no idea how divorced you are from "real christianity" and you never will.

>>714098868 (OP)
Because christianity is fading to make way for Sunni Islam.

>>714100449
>lol
>he didn't get the secret ending
>>714100292
thats just american christians too with few exceptions
>>714100530
i was just pointing out its specifically catholic dumbass, not noting anything beyond that

>>714098868 (OP)
Because that's not what it is, and you're a retard.

>>714100503
They are legally not atheists if they belong to the church. Yeah, we actually have clear rules and definitions. And Amerimutts act like some fundamentalists from 1800s.

christians like to hear bible-y names but are too clueless to pick up on any blasphemy or subversion unless they’re directly insulting jesus, which jews do frequently

>>714100787
>They are legally not atheists
but essentially they are. they are the kind of larper 4chan christian that is all about the aesthetics and "anti-degeneracy" but also believe Jesus was not real and God doesn't exist.

>>714100950
who cares about what jews think
christianity has won, jews have lost.

>>714099813
don't lump atheists who celebrate this corporate parody of Christmas with Christians and the reason why we don't sperg out is because our religion is being mocked for decades and we are used to it

>>714101030
>but essentially they are
They aren't.
That "going to church every Sunday" shit sounds like ancient to just about any European living outside the Vatican city.

>>714098868 (OP)
>but christianity!
It's Catholic. Spanish Catholic on top of that.

>>714098868 (OP)
This game was originally just anti-papist.
But then the DLC makes it straight up fedora tipping which a lot of people didn't like since it seemed out of nowhere.

>>714101589
Happens with a lot of media. People make something, people get the "wrong message" and then DLC comes out that shits over the entire fanbase for taking it the wrong way.

the spanish voices are kino
PENITENTE

>>714101567
Catholicism is Christianity, it's one of the dozens of branches of it. Considering how large it is too, it's almost 50/50 that any Christian thing will be catholic.

>>714101554
>They aren't.
at best they believe in some higher power but also disagree with the vast majority of Christianity's tenets. they are definitely not christians.

>>714102117
>Catholicism is Christianity
Christianity isn't even real Christianity at this point. Jesus would be disappointed at realizing an entire religion has been created around worshipping him and his mother.

>>714101662
Seemed pretty obvious before the DLC that the Silent Sorrows figured out what The Miracle wanted.
But then it was like "Uhhh AWKCHUALLY God is basically the Idea of Evil from BERSERK".

Really came the fuck out of nowhere, it was like a Trigger plotline but at the tail end instead of half-way through.

Blasphemous did a good job portraying Old Testament God

>>714102117
But only the branch that ME follows will get ME into heaven. All the NOT-MEs following NOT-ME religions will burn.

>>714102178
>vast majority of Christianity's tenets
There's like a dozen or two branches of Christianity. The Evangelic-Lutherian way for example is waaay more chill and frill-free compared to the Easter European Protestant church. And then there's the outright cults, like the Pentecostal Church, Mormons and such.

So yeah, there's not been "THE Christianity" in a couple millennia at this point.

>>714102603
>Frog post
>Missing the point of religions

>>714099813
The Christians anon mentioned:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9FU04zuQR8

>>714102897
>Evangelic-Lutherian are way more chill
They are because Johnothan Darby basically said 90% of the bible doesn't apply to them but to a future Kingdom in Israel.

This is why America's head is up Israel's ass by the way, they think Jesus is going to come back and rule from it but only if ethnic jews live there to be converted when Jesus returns.

>>714103319
it’s true, non jews are barely mentioned

>>714102903
if your doctrine can be completely torn apart by a frogpost it's not worth following
whatever boons it grants to society as a whole it's not worth propping up the brainlet that coined it

by whom? christian gamers commmunity?

>>714100170
Yeah, I don't think the point of the game was "God bad". If anything, it's encouraging people to think more deeply about the tenets of Christianity and appreciate our real God for who He is.

>>714098868 (OP)
Playing the game for the first time and the protagonist looks really fucking cool, the atmosphere of the village and the castle is well done too.

>High Wills was actually a demon of sorts, there's a genuine Heaven as well
Based

>>714100170
kek

>>714098868 (OP)
>Catholics are christian now

It's like being white, you are (or not) depending on who you are asking.

The music was amazing.
Might replay the games just for that.

>>714104363
>High Wills is a demon
It's the Idea of Evil from Berserk. A collective consciousness entity born of human desire for a higher power to absolve themselves of guilt.

>>714101589
>>714102331
But Blasphemous 1 made it pretty clear The Miracle was a creation of the High Wills. Even the golden baby reinforces this. The DLC basically just expanded on The High Wills which were that it was just some random being that took a trip to heaven somehow and attained godhood leading to the formation of the church based around the Twisted One and the torture.

It wasn't until Blasphemous 2 reared its head and went "Uh, actually The High Wills are The Miracle, somehow The Miracle returned, it birthed the Antichrist, and actually Heaven just sort of farted around watching the Penitent One save everyone". The game outright states Heaven and the beings in Heaven are just and righteous and that the Penitent One set Cvstodia back to its rightful course. Unless the DLC changed that, I still need to play it.

>>714104583
I liked it more when it was just some fucked up and capricious higher power who didnt really get humans, but still 'answered' to their pleads and problems in its own way

>>714104998
>it was just some fucked up and capricious higher power who didnt really get humans
Even before the patches ever came out this was not the case. It definitely understood humans, it was just a dickhead being wanting people to worship it for extremely arbitrary reasons. It also straight up ignored the monks who did nothing but worship it being tortured by the pope and his gestapo.
The entire reason the Turning of the Throne happened was because the pope was pissed The Miracle wasn't really answering their prayers anymore and then it got pissed that they weren't praising it as much so it caused the whole issue of Blasphemous 1 that the Penitent One had to fix.

>>714098868 (OP)
I don't get it is it pro or anti christian

>>714099813
This. Us European Christians are proud to not go to church and let our smarter Muslim friends do all the god stuff

>>714098868 (OP)
>Get told this is dark souls but 2D and Christian
>It is actually just a metroidvania with a parry button
>Uninstall after 45 minutes

>>714105662
Yeah it has the guilt fragment system which is vaguely souls like but it really isn't souls in 2d.

>>714105570
>he thinks 3rd generation Muslims are still devout
Kek. Most of the younger Muslims are cultural ones, and that will continue to fade as time goes on. It's the disease of secularism. Every single religious person who goes to a secular country will lose his religion within several generations down the line. This cannot be avoided

>>714105452
It's literally just old testament God

>>714105779
Yeah I am not even saying the game is bad or anything, but it is heavily mismarketed by people. I am not really a fan of metroidvanias so I bounced off of it hard but I did think the Spanish VAing and art was cool from the bit I saw.

>>714105779
I am sick of souls death mechanics that force boring runbacks being put into every game.

>>714105854
Weird. If I moved to a religious country I wouldn't catch religion. Maybe we're just more powerful.

>>714105452
Pro Catholicism, anti-papacy. BP2 I don't even really know what its core theme is because it's all over the place.
It's also a critique on humanity and how we use faith in something to justify bad things happening to us and also looking at how, from an outside perspective, the worship of a god that only tortures those who worship it would look.

>muh boycott
shut up fag

Why are higher standards of living correlating with lowered religious beliefs in people across the world?

>>714105936
It's a bare minimum Metroidvania anyway. It has only like 4 items that open up inaccessible areas.

>>714098868 (OP)
I've tried to play the game two times and I just lose interest after a few hours and never boot it up again

>>714098868 (OP)
It was good. The more you play it, the more you realize it doesn’t really map onto Christianity. The Twisted One became a tree, but he’s not very Jesus-like.

>>714106172
it has nothing to do with religion

>>714106172
Quite simple.
The people doing better have no need for a miracle.

>>714106172
Higher education tends to result in less religious worship and vice-versa

>>714106280
It's a criticism of certain forms of Christianity where martyrdom and suffering are held as paths to heaven.
Rather than worship Jesus like being, they worship the first person to get cursed for his sins.

>>714098868 (OP)
>be Christian
>game is called Blasphemous
>looks pretty blasphemous
>not at all interested
>don't buy or play game (boycott)
Not sure what else you want me to do

>>714106280
The Penitent One is Jesus, it's established both in 1 and especially 2 since in both 1 and 2 he takes the sins of Cvstodia and of The Miracle and gives everyone salvation. The Twisted One is a Jesus analogue in the sense that he's the way to their salvation in being an example of the Miracle's, well, "miracle", but he's not Jesus. BP1 even makes it clear the Twisted One hated what happened to him and outright thanks Jesus (The Penitent One) in the true ending for saving him from the Miracle's "miracle".

>>714106172
Doesn't seem to be a consistent pattern to that, lots of poor african countries are very devout for example.

>>714106754
It really isn't though, just full of people who are penitent for like, baby sin. Also, you're a christian? what a fag.

>>714098868 (OP)
Because the guys who made it put effort into it and the inspiration is purely aesthetical.
The Miracle is very different fron Christianity.

>>714098868 (OP)
because it's cool

Blasphemous bros, how are you feeling about Ninja Gaiden Ragebound?

>>714106784
he also takes a vow of silence, so he doesn't preach any BS to his believers

>>714106754
>looks pretty blasphemous
It's not. The "blasphemy" of the game is turning against what is basically Satan and saving humanity from continuing to worship Satan because from that perspective you are "blaspheming". You are essentially playing as Jesus and redeeming everyone's souls. It's a love letter to the Spanish Catholicism the devs grew up in and a critique on the papacy, the Vatican, and an exploration on how worship of a religion looks like to an outsider in an extreme setting such as this where people are praying to a "god" that tortures them for fun.

It's like saying Black Book is blasphemous because you play a woman who pledges her soul to a demon when the game itself was made by a Russian Orthodox Christian. It's entirely based around the time period in real life where Russian pagan worship intersected with Christianity similar to how the Norse Vikings and Christians intersected having people believe in two separate things at the same time before ultimately becoming fully Christian and how both sides were at odds with each other. Black Book even has the MC and her tutor both be Christians who are terrified of their souls being sent to Hell despite loving God but turn to using demonic magic to save everyone from demons.

>>714098868 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yQqqSxnfh8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAIoPlX_Zpg

>>714098868 (OP)
because it looks cool, and being not Spain ended up making for a cool setting for a video game.

2 is garbage

>>714104065
>Yeah, I don't think the point of the game was "God bad". If anything
that's an interesting interpretation. I took away that it was more about questioning religious leaders and the religion/culture around you. Certainly felt anti-papacy like that anon said earlier. I think at worse its just "the specific gnosticism god bad"

>>714098868 (OP)
Thanks for reminding me that I wanted to pick this up on sale.

>>714105936
its not very "metroidvania" like the other anon said. As someone who hadn't played any before its very bare bones in that regard, in fact it was a criticism by many people that it didn't lean into that aspect more

>>714098868 (OP)
>>Dude what if we did Dark Souls, but christianity!
So, Dark Souls?

WHY EVERY SINGLE GAME GETS CALLED "DARK SOULS" THESE DAYS

>>714098868 (OP)
>boycott
why would it? Plenty of games out there that are far more critical of religion conceptually, such as FFX.

>>714111220
This is truly a dark souls of /v/ questions right herew

>>714111220
If a game has slight metoridvania elements, uses a system similar to souls level up and recovery and has "slow" bosses (really in this games case, Ten Piedad is the only example) it's considered "souls".

Which is kind of retarded.

Like Nioh has a souls recovery system and has a bloodstain/invader inspired mechanic, but it really isn't much like souls in terms of game design.

>>714099813
Latino Catholic here

i dont understand what the fuck is going on with americans, not even my mother, a fervent Catholic acts as irrational as the supposed american Christians ive seen on twitter

its not even a protestant thing, because englishmen dont act like this, then you see all the cults that formed in the US and you really ask yourself, what the fuck is their problem

>>714100170
im not taking religious lessons from a lutheran

Are religious girls the good ending guys need these days?

>>714112912
No. They will literally go ape shit if they figure out that you are not marrying them AND the "God" when stepping onto the altar.

They also tend to speak high and mighty of themselves, all "In good and bad, I won't abandon you, bla bla bla...!", but they usually end up being whiny, cheating bitches the moment the teenage crush stage ends and the mundane daily life with all the normalfag challenges start.

>>714112015
America is where England sent their annoying schizo religious trash. Protistantism in Europe was basically "Guys theirs problems with the papisty.

Luther did not want his movement to devolve into schizo shit, he even wrote On the Jews and their lies to tell Prots not to try and become jews in the process of rejecting the non-biblical roman culture in catholithism.

We devolved simply because without a central church figure, schizos took over. Great example is Jonathan Darby. His idea of Dispensaitonalism during the late 1800s did not take off in europe, despite being an Englishman.

However it profoundly affected american prots and lead to the current insane zeitgeist you see form modern evangelicals.

>>714112015
American Christians aren’t actual Christians. It’s that simple. They use religion as a bludgeon to strike at people they hate, then cower behind their faith when someone hits back.

>>714098868 (OP)
I've never even heard of whatever the fuck this game is so what is there to boycott? No one gives a shit to begin with.

>>714098868 (OP)
Because it looks sick, next question

>>714113591
It uses KKK aesthetics

>>714098868 (OP)
christian art is some of the greatest art on the planet, nothing wrong being inspired by it.

But the penitent one is trying his best to redeem and unfuck Cvstodia? And he succeed?

>>714098868 (OP)
Just started playing this. Is there any way to move the camera and read more of item descriptions if your controller doesn't have a second analog stick?

>>714112015
>you see all the cults that formed in the US and you really ask yourself, what the fuck is their problem
look on social media. the demons have taken over. the church that once fought them has fallen to ruins. the cultists take up arms but the only guidance they have are tattered pages from a lost age

>>714112138
regard
>>714100614

>>714105854
they're too busy watching tik toks to be Muslim (that's actually what a lot of imams are saying) even if you go to Iran most people there are really secular and aren't super devout Shias. they mostly just say they're Shia so that the regime doesn't get on their ass. It's really weird

>>714103672
>still missing the point of religions
>acting as if you didn't
You people are mental.

>>714116137
I think he nailed the point of religion pretty closely

>>714098868 (OP)
>christianity
Catholicism exclusively
>How did this shit not get boycotted?
Catholics are cucks

>>714116723
Would you rather they behead people for making fun of their religion or burning the bible?

>>714116925
Yes, that would be based.

I loved Blasphemous 2. Even that FUCKING Eviterno phase 2 fight, which was brutal. Been thinking of trying the first one, but it looks kinda rough...

>>714117209
The first one is better.

>>714117165
>The people shitting on Catholics are fags, jews, and browns
You know what, on further thought I was pretty short sighted. The world would be a better place without those. My mistake.

>>714098868 (OP)
because being anti christian is the standard opinion now

>>714098868 (OP)
I played this in spanish but despite it being my first language its vocabulary was a bit above my paygrade, fun game and good voice acting though.

>>714098868 (OP)
Should I pick up the second one?

>>714120473
I found that it has a bit more complexity by letting you use 3 weapons that each has its own platforming puzzles, combat felt a bit more fun overall as well. But the artstyle of cutscenes was completely fucking gutted.

>>714101554
So you don't practice Christianity in any way, shape, or form, but you still call yourselves Christian. Based European retards

>>714098868 (OP)
>Dark Souls, but christianity
so dark souls?

why would it be boycotted? 99% of atheists are addicted to shallow christian aesthetics anyway so why would anyone care? all of japan is like this, for example

>>714098868 (OP)
Why would it get boycotted? It's amazing, it perfectly illustrates and captures the aesthetic and "vibe" of many Spanish Catholic mythos. I'm a Catholic and I'm proud they made two of these.

>>714112015
>its not even a protestant thing, because englishmen dont act like this
The whole point of English protestantism was "what if the King was also the Pope" and also "what if divorce was legal actually".

The religious book of the Muricans is the DSM-V. Any questioning the buzzwords found within is the true blasphemy that will get you involuntarily committed to a psyche ward.

>>714112015
the actual craziest kind of christian is the american catholic convert that rants and raves about vatican II and loving israel and that kind of thing like jd vance and nick fuentes

>>714101128
>christianity won, jews lost
do not teach this nigga about Vatican II

Because christians are all cucked retards that are owned by jews

>>714125459
They don't even know Jesus was jewish, I don't think you can teach them less

>>714112015
Look up the 'prosperity gospel' It's what all Republicans, aka conservatives Christians practice in America and why they're stopping at nothing to make sure the rich get all the money.

>>714125689
lol, so all democrat politicians are republicans. they are doing everything they can to make themselves rich while their constituents stay poor

>>714112015
Brazillian protestants are exactly like that. They have the same type of craziness as amerilards.

>>714126053
Democrats get rich via plain corruption while republicans get rich by pillaging the state. Learn the difference.

>>714099813
No, they act like modern day lunatics instead.

>>714101360
>christmas
>christian
lol
>>714102178
There are no universal tenets of Christianity outside MAYBE worship of Jesus in some way or form. Read a book.

>>714126450
>There are no universal tenets of Christianity
there is. the nicean creed is the basis for christianity as a religion where prior it was a bunch of disorganized cults just trying to survive and make sense of the theology of their faith and it was then codified into what the nicene creed states. if you cant even fulfill that, then you are not a christian, like mormons and jehovas witness, for example.

Blasphemous 2 was so damn good

>>714118139
I wish it was

>>714126057
huh, didnt know that, makes me wanna look into it

this kind of stuff is weirdly fascinating

for instance, besides america, what other place is breeding grounds for weird Christian cults? south korea

theres a sizeable Christian population there, about 30%, and for some reason they had a couple of weird cults too

>>714124305
ok but you the mormons started in america, not england, and the english didnt literally drink the koolaid at Jonestown

>>714125210
Catholic and I hate this so much.
>join religion
>insist the religion is wrong and demand it changes
Just join a different religion if you don't like this one, man, nobody asked you to be here. Extra ironic when they're the same people that talk about Muslims and immigrants forcing culture changes.
>bonus tards: people who are "Catholic" but don't acknowledge the papacy

>>714112015
I mean the Puritans were considered psychos even by the standards of the era's fundie Prots

>>714098868 (OP)
Euros treat Christianity very differently than Americans. As an American Christian I greatly enjoyed it

>>714125210
>>714130221
They're looking for a religion that subscribes to their already existing world view, not the other way around. Remember weev? He's a good example of this. On his old blog he said desperately wanted to become a Christian (reading between the lines he was going through an early mid-life crisis) but because he couldn't find a denomination that made race a cornerstone of its teachings, he went off and became a neo-Pagan because it played up the white supremacy angle.

>>714126141
It's actually the opposite...

>>714112015
Google Calvinism. I Advise everyone who ever thinks "why do Americans X". The answer is usually our Calvinists roots

>>714126053
Nah this a Republican issue this time, so you can't deflect. There's a good reason the Republicans packed the supreme court with catholics.

>>714130509
Reminds me of the alt right trad larper guy who ranted in his blog when he moved to a small midwest town that was all white because he was tried of the libtard city dwellers. Then he starte Cried about how no one gave a shit about his extreme views and that the people were just too "simple" Always funny seeing idiots stuck in a echochamber for so long they get mad when reality isn't what they imagined.

>>714126614
>nicene creed
>basis of Christianity
Oh you sweet summer child. Ain't nobody even taking that shit seriously now that it's settled it was all made up bullshit, let alone treat it as some kind of lithmus test.

>>714126057
>Brazilians are mentally ill
Water is wet

>>714130684
Tbqh it's hard to tell the two apart. Especialy when bribes are legal.

>>714131385
>it was all made up bullshit
gnostic and/or schizo? call it.

>>714131467
Try consensus of modern scholars. You have no authorithy to call who's christian and who's not either way. Nobody does.

>>714131737
what are you talking about? we have parchments of the nicene creed from the 6th century.

>>714099813
So true my fellow European!
*gets stabbed and beheaded by a peaceful muslim*

friendly reminder that Dark souls is deeply anticapitalist and the hollowed, cursed, tarnished, etc. represent the working class being abused by the bourgeois gods for the sole purpose of staying in power

>>714112015
American protestants are hopelessly obsessed with the rapture. Shit gets weird when a significant portion of the country is waiting and praying for the day that God ends the world. It's a death cult

>>714098868 (OP)
Lord of the fallen did it first.

>>714113940
That art piece is referenced as a one to one for a boss fight.
https://youtu.be/oMpHJ3YfD7s?si=J40TSsIyjZb5I46A&t=291

>>714113565
Just because your parents dragged you to church until you were 13 doesn't mean you need to be bitter about it for the rest of your life.

>>714134461
>very specifically criticise american christianity in particular, not christianity nor religion as a whole?
>FUCK YOU NIHILIST WHY DO YOU FUCKING HATE RELIGION FUCK YOU FUCK YOU NIGGER
?????

>>714098868 (OP)
Spanish catholics are based and they know its a game.
Viva Cristo rey!

>>714126057
>>714129618
Brazilian protestants imported American evangelical Christianity. It's not a coincidence, it's literally the same thing.

>>714112015
>>714099813
you have no idea how full and intense it feels to live like this without doing much at all. ohhhh christ save me, and then you jerk off on disgusting anime girls, sometimes you're trying to pray and you feel lust so you're like oh no please stop the sinful thoughts, but then you're like, I can't keep praying while I feel horny, so I'll jerk off, and then you write the filthiest smut and jerk off to it, and say wicked shit on 4chan while you're at it, calling people niggers and telling them to kill themselves, then you clutch your cross and go ohhhh I am such a sinner and you whip yourself, I'm a stupid pig, ohh I'm such a filthy pig, and then you see someone asking for charity and go euughh fuck off nigger but then you're like oh ohhhh the world is so corrupt and hateful, and I'm the most hateful swine, shameful and unclean, SAVE ME LORD, and you whip yourself again, but it's sort of a turn-on, then you drink and shitpost, and then you despise yourself because you are a slave to vice, ohhh christ have mercy while I have another glass.
You know how Gollum has constant conversations with Smeagol? It's like that, you never get bored. Truly a high IQ way to live.

>>714098868 (OP)
Catholics are able to diferentiate between games and reality

>>714112015
Recently there was a good summary of this by Richard Miniter.
tl;dr there were four fundamental sects of Christians who populated America and they populated specific areas, downstream of that is what is seen today in modern American politics.
>https://open.spotify.com/episode/4QNnV7PvjzDrSI9AIjoME3?si=c061a53d56734203

>>714099709
Keyword is LOOKS great. It's sadly very dull gameplay wise

>>714112008
>but it really isn't much like souls in terms of game design.
Yes it is and I'm tired of everyone pretending Nioh isn't a Souslike when even the devs outright point to Dark Souls being its inspiration just because it has instant reload stamina, stances, and the Confusion system.
>Can only recover healing materials at shrines.
>Shrines are the only place you can change your spells, certain equipment, and level up.
>Shrines reload the map and enemy spawns.
>Enemy movesets are treated exactly like how Souls games want you to learn an enemy or boss with the deliberate delays in between combo strikes so that you can dodge roll or block them.
>Outside of the lmao2miniboss fights bosses function identically to Souls game bosses in terms of how you're generally meant to learn them and approach them even if it ultimately ends up in posture breaking over and over or LWing them.
>Game expects you to iframe a lot of the moveset attacks even if blocking is much more viable.
>Ganks are done in an identical way as are traps with enemies baiting you into ambushes, instakill drops, or you getting jumped by something.
>Maps use shortcuts in the exact same way with areas opening up to earlier shrines.
>Corpse runs for your EXP when you die.
Nioh and Nioh 2 are Soulslikes. Remnant 1 and 2 have significantly different gameplay and combat systems yet they're Soulslikes as well and everyone considers them part of the genre despite being TPS games.

>>714098868 (OP)
>not get boycotted
it did

I must have been filtered because the church sure as hell seemed evil to me in Blasphemous

>>714112015
American Catholics are just evangelical Protestants who like the aesthetics and more authoritarian structuring (not that they actually obey it)

>>714133012
>half the reason the American right is so wildly supportive of Israel is that Israel needs to exist in order to get blown up to herald the End Times

>>714100170
Blasphemous is a Gnostic game? Explain how

>>714133012
i also hope and pray every day the world ends i just don't believe jewish space magic will do it and we need to drop all the nukes

>>714098868 (OP)
Lords of the Fallen (the second one) is closer to "Christian Flavored Dark Souls" than Blasphemous, I'd argue. Both of them also take aesthetic inspiration from the super hardcore Flagellent heretics. I think they were both created by Catholic Europeans anyways

>>714142608
NTA, but isn't it about how people worship a false god that pretends to be a true god? Said false god only knows how to bring about suffering, and the MC ascends above it and goes to the real heaven with the real god. Something like that, I haven't played 2.

>>714133723
I don't think the first Lords of the Fallen was super Christian in themeing or aesthetics.

>>714098868 (OP)
>Catholics
>Christians
lol no

>>714143457
Protestant heretics need to LEAVE

>>714143497
We already did in 1517, idolater. Keep up.

>>714141837
It was all over the place because it was mostly because of the pope's orders. The monks being imprisoned and tortured for blasphemy was primarily on the pope's orders while the other heads of the church were infighting for various positions. Everything to do with Esdras being borderline insane and Crisanta also being extremely nuts was because of The Miracle tricking Esdras after his sister found out the truth about it and Crisanta literally had her mind wiped by it. The general rank and file got dragged into everything thanks to the pope's Turning, they were fairly normal people or just devout worshipers rather than insanely dogmatic.

>>714143215
>>714143392
The first Lords of the Fallen is legitimately fucking horrible. That bookcase boss in the DLC is legitimately one of the worst pieces of videogame design I've ever seen

>>714143610
>Doesn't deny being a heretic

>>714143680
The fact that you have to have an elemental weapon to hit ghosts and the only elemental weapons are 15+ levels below you at best is astoundingly bad design. I have no idea what they were thinking with that DLC, the only thing I've encountered as bad as it is Blue Sun in Hellpoint which is outright impossible if you're past NG. Fear literally two-shots you in his opening intro before you can even move sometimes even in NG+ and has attacks that have no downtime and hit you while you are still mid roll, it's insanely bad. The mansion boss can't even be beaten on NG+ outside of exploiting the radiation DoT because it one-shots you and has so much health it is not feasible to out-DPS it before you get hit.

>>714143876
Yes, I am a heretic against idolatry and degeneracy. Thank you for the compliment.

>>714144045
>Protestants
>Not degenerates
I hope you're enjoying your female and gay preachers

>>714144131
What a bunch of fags do with a church in California has nothing to do with my church. Cope and seethe.

>>714144131
>>714144045
Okay, I'll just be serious for a moment before I go to sleep. I don't quite understand how you can believe in sola scriptura when anyone could say that their interpretation of the Bible is better than the others. It just seems like a way to get a bunch of crazy people who warp scripture to suit their own beliefs, rather than people who take it as a foundation. I hope you understand what I mean.
Anyways, good night.

>>714143457
Catholics are the OG Christians, sorry you're retarded

>>714098868 (OP)
>Dude what if we did Dark Souls, but christianity!
Dark Souls already did that

>>714100474
Instead they troon out because according to them Jesus thinks that’s ok.

>>714146936
Kill yourself kike

>>714098868 (OP)
>christianity
Christian imagery maybe, its more gnostic bullshit.

>>714098868 (OP)
because it was good, turns out that's the secret sauce. You can rip something off in a million and half ways but if you're good it doesn't matter

>>714147046
Gnostic is the true Christianity before jews took it over

>>714147001
Go fuck yourself atheist

>>714143292
isnt that just the devil in christianity

>>714147104
No.
John 10:30.

>>714147150
The devil doesnt have the ability to create, only to deceive. The god that everyone is worshipping functions very similarly to the demiurge.

Is that another fedora thread on /v/
Damn

>>714099813
I am religious but I am mature enough to not be offended by fanfic

>>714142563
That's what is said the in the book of Revelations. The prophecy is that when all the armies of the world gather at megiddo/armageddon to fight against the sons of jerusalem, Jesus will return to the world and the trumpets signaling the end of the world will commence. At least that's what I understood of it over the decades.
It made for really sick RPG scenarios desu. Diablo as a series was basically based on this sripture.

>>714147104
Don't be retarded, anon.

>>714147347
The Bible isnt talking about the nation state of Israel founded in the 1940s, its talking about God's people, and seeing as Jesus says the jews dont have the father, its safe to say that they are no longer Israel nor God's Chosen.
John 8:19

>>714147150
Not really. The devil offers a lot of stuff and is pretty prideful, but he knows he causes suffering and revels in it because he hates humans. Like the other anon said, he cannot create anything.

>>714147523
Which is why I said Jerusalem, not Israel the state. Over the millenia, that city has always held a sacred significance and the book could have just used it as a metaphor since John was only seeing a vision of the End Times. Also it's not even Israel's capital nowadays anyway.

>>714147661
Fair fair, I jumped the gun a little, my bad

>>714112015
It's specifically evangelicals, not mainline protestants.
Evangelicals are heretics that believe in dispensationalism which is a 19th century heresy and turned it into an actual doomsday cult where they want to accelerate the end of days and believe Jews are the only thing that matter and that they're needed to trigger the end days to be saved. They also believe that genetics of the jews is necessary to be "Chosen" so they marry into it, see: A lot of politicians.

If they practice dispensationalism, they're industrial age heretics and cultists. They think it's fine to be as shitty and insane as possible because their whole thing revolves around running away until the end of days and "Since the world can only ever get shittier, it doesn't matter how much fuel they throw in the fire."

>>714133012
Not protestants, it's not the mainlines that do that.
Evangelical/Non Denom do it.

>>714098868 (OP)
It's called a Castlevania-like.

>>714112015
>its not even a protestant thing, because englishmen dont act like this, then you see all the cults that formed in the US and you really ask yourself, what the fuck is their problem
Real answer:
>the US was funded by and was an asylum for religious lunatics that were too insane even for early modern Europe
>the US has no native culture or ties to the land other than ethnic cleansing and immigration. This is also the reason why Americans are obsessed with discovering they're 1/32 Irish or 1/64 German and make that their whole personality, since they know being an "American" is cultureless. This lack of culture and community is why they self segregate into insane religious sects
t. lived in the US for 5 years

Problem with mainstream american protestants is what we call charismatic preaching, where pastors use cult of personality to get their members to become fanatics. I have seen many local pastors here who study in america and adopt this kind of doctrine to grow their church only for it to end up being a cult in all but name. So many also teach very fatalistic dogma. i.e. dont bother improving or seeking help for your troubles because God will provide/take it away.

>>714098868 (OP)
Its really just medieval Spain and Catholicism is only somewhat adjacent
The issue is that the gameplay is slow

>>714148170
>>the US was funded
*Founded
Also strong Calvinist influence which explains the obsession with capitalism, work and your divinely ordained "lot" in life, dispensationalism and Rapture/Israel worship, meme Catholic/Orthodox convers that are just Evangelicals that "converted" for the "based and trad" aesthetics but kept the same beliefs, prosperity gospel, Mormons, etc.
Their brand of charismatic preaching is also infecting South America.

>>714099813
>Christians elsewhere are not religious and don't act like medieval lunatics.
Might do them some good if they did. "ask the ghosts if a stuff upper lip matters"

>>714131137
I'm calvinist Dutch. And we're normal and chill.

>>714098868 (OP)
I won't even look at it for that reason.

>>714098868 (OP)
>this has some serious Mario vibes, says person that has only played Mario games
shoe size IQ moment

>>714112015
America is the largest psyop control group in the planet.
If you've ever been there, you'd realize that everything there is out to get a piece of your mind and soul. It's bizarre.
Weak willed people will turn into fanaticism. Mind you, I'm not calling religious people fanatics, I'm just saying that there's something in American society which turns them into worshipers of any kind of religion/ideology.
They act that way with everything, religion, sports, politics, science, movies.
And I don't want to sound like I'm generalizing 300 million people, of course there's people who aren't like that. But most of their country has been MK Ultra'd and some became Christian fanatics.

>>714098868 (OP)
I read here that it's clunky and bad but it was actually very good, the best metroidvania ever, great pixelart and atmosphere

>>714112015
They genuinely believe that Jesus will give them money if they pray enough and pay the pastor, and Jews need to be allowed to ethnically cleanse Palestine to cause the Rapture.
A lot of them believe this and have political power.

>>714149212
Controls and hitboxes should be on point if the game's going to force you to use a very short range weapon. Sadly this isn't the case. The aesthetics carry it.

>>714131737
>You have no authorithy to call who's christian and who's not either way.
That authority comes from apostolic succession. Apostles picked successors (bishops), that line of succession was never broken to this day.

>>714098868 (OP)
>first game had soulful big cool bosses
>well crafted and full of character
>Sequel is just dudes in armor, railroaded as fuck and none of the character
what gives?

>>714149212
I enjoyed the game but I definitely found it clunky, when doing one of the bloodstained platforming challenges for example I kept trying to do a skip where you drop between some spikes to land on a platform below but half of the time despite landing on the platform, the game playing the landing sfx and showing the dust particles on top the platform the penient still somehow got sucked by the spikes below and died.

>>714147169
Marcion believed that Christ was the Son of God, and that both existed, he simply also believed that the God invoked in the Old Testament was not the same one as the Father

>>714149025
my theory is the US has an obsession with categories much like places like india
unfortunately decent categorization requires an higher than average level of abstraction
this means that most people are basically incapable of separating the box with what's in it and to play around with different concepts, but are still required to do so because their society basically compels them to
in any other place these people would just not bother with any of this, or at worst engage is some minor tribalism

>>714098868 (OP)
Anon it's just a metroidvania, but the art department was inspired by Francisco Goya a lot. It's not that deep.

>>714098868 (OP)
Spanish Catholicism is kino af

>>714147058
Which is the one where I fuck the machine?

wait a minute, this thread isnt about video games!

>>714098868 (OP)
Christians aren't as likely to enter a media group and start beheading people like a muslim would.

>>714142681
>brown hair and eyes
>white
Sorry gal, dunno how to tell it to you.
But you ain't it.

>>714100043
You should not need to be reminded every Sunday how to behave like a decent human being.