Announce the Rogue Trader and give me a full report on the new DLC!
How do i start the dlc stuff? They seemed cool so far but i'm in act II and still didn't get the companion guy.
>>714104508Clear one planet (Janus, Kiava Gamma or Dargonus) and then do a few warp jumps, Solomorne should call you
>>714104258 (OP)TLDR: 6.5/10 quite mid DLC, Solomon is boring, companion pets are okay, reactivity leaves much to be desired, new bosses are fun, Overseer is fun
Okay so I made it all the way to Act 5 with Solomon. Played everything Lex Imperialis had to offer, and I have to say it was disappointing. Compared to Void Shadows quality, this new DLC is pretty weak. Solomon introduction was that interesting or shocking as Kibbles introduction, I wasn't very excited to meet the Adeptus Arbites companion at all.
Solomonโs personality is flat, boring even, and sorely lacks the nuance or inner conflict that made companions like Pasqal and Argenta stand out. His VA isn't that great either, he is just a generic white guy with a black paint job.
When compared to Kibbles he gets overshadowed greatly, "Domin".
His companion quest is equally underwhelming, offering few surprises and little in the way of emotional or thematic payoff. His reason to spy on you are simple "I was told to do so", again no personality. There is barely any reactivity from other companions on his quest and doesn't integrate very well with the main story. It was too short to or felt like that, since most of the time Solomon was gone doing who knows what and he just shows up later.
Despite all that, the new encounters were fun but not very challenging, I liked the first boss the most.
My thoughts on the Overseer class, It's fun but not viable in higher difficulties. This game is designed around rolling initiative first and nuking everyone on the screen before it gets a chance to act and do the same to you. Tanks are not useful at all, and the shield doesn't make them survive long either.
The Coomrag torture for Solomon was fine tho.
So is this game finally "done" yet?
>>714104548Pasta. You didn't play it.
>>714104258 (OP)>full report on the new DLC!Right away, Lord Captain. Though I have not finished it yet, so it will only be a partial report.
Solomorne is a better character than kebab, but she's not a character so it's not a high bar. Take it as you will.
The two missions that I've played were very good. While they feel a less integrated than Void Shadows just by virtue of taking place on some planets instead of your ship where you spend most of the game, they clearly had a lot of care and attention put into. Same goes for the new Archetype. It's obvious the devs had fun working on it and that's always good
>>714104615Lol. Lmao even they've already announced 2 more dlcs and plan on making more after that
>>714104548Yeah it was underwhelming and the next DLC quality might be the same or worse, considering Owlcat is working on two other projects I doubt they will care about DLC for a game that has been sold already.
>>714104548>Argenta>Nuance and inner conflict As if being an AI sloppa yuritroon wasn't enough to dismiss your opinion, Argenta is one of the most one dimensional characters in the game
>peopel still reply to the copypasta of the A.I ritual poster
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>>714105952What's the lore of this tranny? I was digging through the archives and apparently he even posts in the fucking WoW general, does he just avatarfag as Arueshalae or what
>>714106234Buckbroken by the fact that owlkeks will never make a pozzfinder game again, also has terminally shit taste
>>714104917>but she's not a characterI'm finally playing the DLC and this is definetly not true
She's not very flexible and her arc is perhaps too subtly implied but it's not true
Could they have done more with her? Definetly
Is she "not a real character" ? That's just false.
>>714106342>also has terminally shit tasteArue is best girl thoughever, such is the curse of being the best and most popular girl that you have schizos like him latching onto her
>>714105796>>714105952>>714106234>>714106342>being this obsessed and mind broken that you spend all day looking for information on a random anonwhat type of mental illness is this?
>>714106797Pretending to be someone else to defend yourself huh?
>>714106643>her arcShe has no arc. SHe has no eprsonality, no aspirations and no goals. She starts off as your loyal cocksucker and ends up being the same old loyal cocksucker. There was an attempt late into the game to make something of her, but it has failed because the resolution had nothing to do with the plot hook
>Kebaroo, you should kill yourself right now!>Right away, massa!What an arc
>>714106904>making fun of schizo retard means you're the sameyou're mind broken kek
>>714106917She can end up trying to kill you though
>>714105093Crime Lord soldier>AM
Dual Pistols with the holster
>>714105093Psyker overseer
>>714104548This is generous, its 4/10
>>714106917I disagree
It's too subtle but it's there
Both at the party and after you kill the priest you see her struggling to reconcile her dogma with the life she sees you having in the upper decks
When she kills the traitor priest she starts wondering if she is just as brainwashed as he was.
>no aspirations and no goalsWhich is specifically what makes her doubt herself in picrel. The fact that she was raised to serve and have no real personality of her own is kind of the whole point of her story, and why she constantly seeks reassurance from the player that having feeling for him is normal and not something forbidden.
That's a character. Could have been done better? Sure, but it's there.
Also being loyal to you is not the only arc a character can have.
>>714107334Why do you think I should lower the score, anon? While the DLC wasn't great, it also wasn't terrible. But it's easy to see it that way when you compare it to Void Shadows
I wonder what LI's 4th act quest will be about since the tithe stuff has been resolved in act 2
Does Solomon bully Yrliet?
>>714108706While I was on Janus every single time she opened her mouth Solomorne went
>maybe, but you're a xenos so I don't believe you
All these people getting ass fucked by the gay space nigger cop
>>714106917>no character besides sucking your cockThats why anons love her! Can't trust their opinions for shit!
>get annoyed by party management taking increasingly longer
>realize I'm on the dogmatic path
>Yrilet? A Rogue Trader of the von Valancius dynasty will not be talked down to by a filthy xeno. Perish.
>Idira is talking to the ghost of Theodora? Argenta rid us of this witch.
>Jae? You're ok for now but one wrong move and you get the airlock.
>>714104548>My thoughts on the Overseer class, It's fun but not viable in higher difficulties. This game is designed around rolling initiative first and nuking everyone on the screen before it gets a chance to act and do the same to you. Tanks are not useful at all, and the shield doesn't make them survive long either.I turned Pasqal into an Overseer to play around with the new class and because a swarm of servo skulls seemed like a fitting choice for a magos but honestly he's done nothing since then. His impact on combat as a level 25 Overseer is the same as it was at level 15 of Operative. I have no idea how this class is supposed to be useful in any way whatsoever
Maybe I just picked the worst choice with the servo skulls. I guess I will wait and see what Solomorne and his mastiff are like before I make my final judgment
>My thoughts on the Overseer class, It's fun but not viable in higher difficulties.
>schizo ousts himself as an absolute shitter retard
Embarrassing
>>714104258 (OP)Gay nigger from outer space sucks (and not just cock). His intro was boring and he is not even voiced in the beginning when you meet him. Such a let down compared to Kibellahs intro.
Barely any reactivity to being an arbeetus
The pets are okay but the eagle is stupid op.
Shields are not that great. You are better off using a two handed weapon.
You can tell more budget went to Void Shadows instead of this DLC.
>>714104917>better than kebabDelusional.
>>714110458>His intro was boring and he is not even voiced in the beginning when you meet him. Such a let down compared to Kibellahs introNot only is he voiced, but his introduction cutscene is metal as fuck, so is the cutscene when he raids the ship with you in act 2. Not only do you have shit taste but you're a lying faggot, too
>>714110458You can tell you've been seething non-stop about the fact that he's not a woman
I don't like blacks so I didn't buy the DLC.
>>714109864Servo skull is the worst pet. I have no idea how to use it to any good effect.
The dog is second worst. It is fun to knock enemies prone but underwhelming damage wise.
Psyber raven is very strong for applying party wide buffs and debuffs on enemies. Literally designed with Idira in mind.
Eagle is the strongest and overpowered as hell. Becomes unkillable and its area attack does high damage. I made Cassia an overseer so that she can finally have a pet bird.
>>714110635>hate niggers>love riot policeI'm torn
>>714104258 (OP)So when are the repairs to my new ship going to be finished? Did like 6 or 7 jumps by now and it's still not part of my fleet. Even picked up the Dargonus escort in the interim.
>>714110609Total waifufag death
>>714110676Skull exists solely for Officers to spread their buffs.
>>714104258 (OP)Is this better than the Pathfinder games?
>>714106917Yeah yeah we get it, you got shit taste keep making shit up to justify it. After the billionth time it's gotten boring.
>>714110686Get the DLC and use toybox to replace his portrait
>Yrliet's a dogshit companion
>Owlcat already announced ANOTHER Eldar companion for Dark Heresy
Dear God why?
>>714111327DH companion is corsair, they are the least autistic eldar
>>714111327Why would you assume being a xenos was the issue? Marazhai was written just fine. As long as the person writing the Corsair is not the talentless hack that created Yrliet, we'll be fine.
>>714111491Wasn't yrliet written by several people? Weren't all companions? Their etudes in the toybox are credited to different people at least
>>714111491>talentless hack Cassia is best girl so no
>>714104258 (OP)I dig Solomorne, made the midgame a bit more exciting. Him chimping out in Commorragh for Glaito was a nice little scene. Sadly, he's just not as strong as my beloved Kibellah.
>>714111327Im betting he will be wayyyy better
>>714111794Yeah, his exchange with the skinwalker girl was dope
>>714111726Have the writers for DH been revealed, or are you an insider?
should i buy the game now or wait for the enhanced edition
>warp speed + psy-raven
the fuck lmao, idira buffing in area is crazy desu
>>714112192Enhanced edition is more than a year away, as 2 DLCs have been confirmed in the future. Even more DLCs may come if those sell, so it could be any time.
If you are willing to replay the game in a few years, yeah, you can buy it now, it's a complete experience.
But if you never ever replay games, then you might consider waiting for the completerer experience
>>714111327Dark Heresy should feature 0 (zero) xeno companions by virtue of being a Dark Heresy game
>>714112030DH? No, people just asked on Owlcat's discord who wrote who, all the romanceable girls besides Kibellah are written by the same person (who may or may not be a woman)
>>714112902If that's true that writer should be fired, Cassia is just decent, Jae is bad and Yrliet is outright terrible, not just as romances, but as characters.
>>714113169Cassia is one of the best characters in the game actually
There's nothing wrong with Yrliet, her being a retarded cunt that hurts your feelings doesn't make her bad.
>one of the announced future docs says it will introduce an augmetics system
Tech priest origin?
>>714113240True, I love my fish princess.
>>714113416There are multiple things wrong with Yrliet, her writing is absolute trash on every level. Her romance is irrelevant.
>>714113468You have have augmetics without being with the mechanicus
Eagle slamming down anywhere in line of sight and doing a 70 damage aoe that blinds is great fun.
>>714113468Tech priests can't be rogue traders
>>714113240No, she really isn't. The characters that are written well in RT are Pasqal, Heinrix, Abelard, Idira, and Marazhai.
Are explorators kinda like rogue traders for Mars?
Does Nomos get a different ending if you don't reach rank 3 in any devotion
>>714113416I hate you can't punish her in a meaningful way for act 3. Saying sorry? Lame. Getting whipped? Lame and you don't see it.
>>714112395yeah im not a replayer, thanks
>>714113809You can literally kill her
>>714113697If tech priests can be inquisitors they can be rogue traders.
>>714112605>Collector's edition statue for Dark Heresy is a fucking KrootAbsolutely disgusting shit.
>>714113859I said punish not kill
>>714113849Ulfars decent, but he's still held back because Space Wolf lore is retarded werewolf bullshit which makes it impossible to rank him higher.
>>714104258 (OP)Abelard's portrait makes him look like a squat dwarf
>>714113952GW actually seems to be toning that down a bit. Logan Grimnar's new mini doesn't have the wolfsled that he uses to delivers presents on Wolfmas anymore. He still has his Mary Sue axe though.
>>714113880>If tech priests can be inquisitors they can be rogue traders.They can't and they can't
If you aren't dual wielding shotguns with the appropriate perks then you're wasting your time.
>>714113551>>714113240Correct
best ones in no particular order
>Abelard>Cassia>Argenta>Heinrix>Pasqalaka the kino team
>>714114271Inquisitor:Martyr has an Inquisitor tech priest.
>soaking all the new DLC XP to hit lv36 and Exemplar before Cumrag
fucking DIE Malice, die die DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I like building a nice green path between my planets and major locations, but using those things always feels sketchy because you can only get a limited amount of those stabilizations in the whole game.
>>714114861Cassia and Argenta should not be on that list, they are not written as well as the other characters there.
>>714110635>>714110686You can just be the Imperial Judge Dredd if you want. You can use the new class and not use that character, if you prefer.
>>714114861not even a femcel but Jimmi is just based
>>714114919Mars has its own inquisition, but they are not THE Inquisition
>>714115048>only get a limited amount of those stabilizations in the whole game.It's infinite actually, some warp events give more and saving the Navigator on Pulvis Platinum gives like +10 with the Iconoclast option
Frankly I just connect all Colonies to Dargonus with the green routes
desu it's even more profitable to leave orange paths since you get to fight more enemies/loot but I hate being slowed down by warp events
Fuck doing that bedroom warp event where you start alone though and get raped by Daemonettes
>>714115353>Fuck doing that bedroom warp event where you start alone though and get raped by DaemonettesThat's a kino event though, and it's unique so you can only get it once
Ia dual shotguns arby really that good? I can't seem to get much use out of solomorne or his dog.
>>714115353>that bedroom warp event where you start alone though and get raped by Daemonettesoh no haha
>>714115743Surely you jest, Elantach
>>714113849Has the honor of being one of the three non-dlc characters with a good questline (the other ones are Pasqal and Cassia)
>>714115743No worries, Lord Captain, I am here to share the load
>>714113884It's a Wrath & Glory adaptation using the name of a better game for clout
The game better feature an ultra-purist that lets me remove those stains
Does the cute feudal world waifu appear on your ship if you take her with you? Can you ask her to fetch you recaff?
>>714104548Reminder female space marines are on the way and all the fake tough guy retards that insisted it would never happen are inwardly malding and seething while outwardly virtue signaling that it's not a problem and diversity is AKSHUALLY A GOOD THING through gritted teeth. You lost, faggots. I don't care yow much you bench or shat branch of the military you're from. You're a little bitch on the inside LOL!
How is everyone building their arbites RT? I Can't be the only one being a lawtist. Started as a soldier but thinking of going into master tactician later.
>>714104258 (OP)Why does this midget look so short?
I like the new additions to space combat. Those little zones mix things up way more than I expected.
>>714116189Currently playing a blaster psyker but I feel like playing a castigator arbites after. Will probably go overseer because I want a pet.
>>714113579>her writing is absolute trash on every levelaww did she hurt your feelings because she didn't immediately suck your dick like everyone else?
anyway, no friend of the Emperor would ever let her xeno ass on the ship anyway. And she doesn't even bitch when you refuse her, she's just a bit bummed and says "ok"
>>714116380No it's because she's not a good representation of the eldar as a faction or some autistic shit like that
>>714116161female custodes are already canon kek
>>714116547Nucanon can not enter my head without my consent
Wait, so they released a DLC where the lead is a black police guy named Solomon? Does he have a moral quandry about his duty, too?
I think Kibellah has replaced Cassia as the most reasonable choice for a dogmatic RT who wants to continue the dynasty. Cassia may be the more renowned choice, but you can actually have kids with Kibellah and if the RT doesn't have kids, then everything's gonna go to shit real quick when you die.
>>714116823Don't remind me that DLC was so ass and his moral dilemma was forced as fuck
>>714116964Hey, it worked out for Theodora
>>714116298Being a based lawtard has been fun so far. But I'm also tying to play as a dogmatic who's not a total tard about it so we'll see.
>>714115672It's working pretty well for me as an arch militant. Dunno how it would be for him, since he's not really built for that.
>>714117025You're talking like the DLC is 2 years old it came out not even a week ago dude
>>714115672Yes but its better as MT rather than AM like
>>714117056. MT has better synergies for shotguns
>>714117085He's talking about cyberpunk
>>714117164Well I'm just a fucking moron nevermind
>>71411616140k is still a franchise for real men. Deal with it.
Me? If you incest, Lord Captain
>>714117254I wish Cassia was my sister
>>714116964Realistically, the best choice is probably some other person not in the game. The party members are all weird rejects or unsuitable in other ways. There's a whole galaxy full of eligible aristocrats who'd form a line all the way around the ship to marry a rogue trader.
>>714117335Where are my options just to bed random cute girls on my worlds? I'm a RT, are they gonna refuse?
>>714117237>40k>real men40k like every nerd fandom has had a massive tranny infestation in the last 10 years.
>>714117529And these threads are proof of it
Does it make more sense for Argenta to be a heavy bolter kind of girl, or more of a flamer/melta deal?
>>714116161Reminder they memory holed the femtodes about 3 months after the fact already thanks to the deserved backlash it got. Femstartes are never happening.
>>714117887Heavy Bolter and Heavy Flamer, obviously.
>>714117909>Femstartes are never happening.
>>714117335That's why you play a girl and let jimmy become an inquisitor and just control Koronus with a pair of iron fists
>Kibella only hits for 1-5 damage and often just fucking zero
What's the point of being able to hit the enemy 30 times per turn if it doesn't do shit?
>>714118125Entirely a (you) problem.
>>714117887Her OC passives lean her more towards flamer, but bolter is insane later tons of support for it while the best flamer can only be wielded by Ulfar(I think anyway).
>>714118059Heinrix doesn't give you kids either, poor attempt and convincing people to troon out
>>714118125bro
your 2hander blades?
>>714118270>Heinrix doesn't give you kids eitherLol. Lmao
>>714118125xister you aren't using one handed weapons like a sissy right?
>>714115286Just say you didn't play the game.
The main problem with this game is that the combat is fucking boring, even for a TB enjoyer like myself, because it doesn't feel like you're making decisions.
What the combat feels most like, is a card game, where you can build your deck the way you want and always draw the same opening hand, with that opening hand always being a one-turn-victory. So every single fight is exactly the same, it doesn't even feel like playing a game.
They try to get around this by making fights with phases, or triggered immunities that force fights to take more than 1 round, but that's just lame.
There are too many ways to do a million damage in one turn in this stupid combat system.
To make it even worse, building characters and leveling is fucking boring as well. We have all these hundreds of talents are not only extremely specific, but also completely fucking pointless; I don't even really level 4 of my companions after act 3, because they never get to do anything anyway. I just pick whatever talent happens to be at the top of the list and go with that, it literally doesn't matter.
The pathfinder games are the same way; the combat is fucking boring, because you just do the same exact overpowered shit in every single fight. Just buff your OTK-guy and then OTK the entire screen. You got all these stats and talents and classes, and it doesn't matter; it's all a mirage, just completely pointless and a waste of your time to read or think about.
The combat may as well only be there in these titles so that they don't get classified as point-and-click games.
>>714118542>>714118410dual wielding gives more attacks though
>>714118753Did they remove your brain as well as your dick sister?
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Is this another game where defense is meaningless, only rocket tag matters? I want to create Maple...
>>714118935Unfortunately yes. Its my biggest issue with the game is that it's too alpha strike focused.
>>714118721Just don't be a filthy minmaxer who looks up broken builds, it's that easy
>>714119005The game can be broken with an officer (basic bitch buff slut class) and a soldier > arch militant (basic bitch fighter class), even after the nerfs
You don't have to look up anything
>>714118721you're exaggerating but correct in a way, the problem just boils down to: RT is too easy. I don't agree PF is the same way, because the difficulty is higher and characters are less powerful relative to the enemies.
In early- through mid-game PF your characters can simply get oneshotted or CC'd into uselessness sometimes, in lategame enemies have huge stats that can still put up some fight.
In RT you can clear the screen with like one or two characters, let alone your whole party.
If they just made the game harder and had some more interesting encounters it'd be fine.
>>714119005this is another difference between PF and RT. In PF there's a trillion options so unless you're like me and actually know the system by heart from playing tabletop, you probably have to look up builds to make something powerful. In RT character building is very easy so you stumble into broken builds by playing normally. Literally, just by using the abilities the game gives you, normally, as intended.
>>714118982>>714118935That being said the game just introduced shields and an origin that can revolve around shields but you could also just play something broken instead and delete the screen in 1-2 turns.
>>714118753But you said it yourself - more attacks don't mean jackshit if you'r doing 0 damage
>>714118935burying my face in Maple's pits
>>714116964That's not really the case, since by the lore of the setting the RT would have a gigantic harem he's leaving children with to secure the future of the dynasty. Sadly Owlcat chose not to portray this aspect of being a Rogue Trader for some reason, but even if you don't get married to your Death Cultist or Navigator, rest assured you will have multitudes of Von Valancians to take your place after your death.
>>714116964You have no heirs, Kibbles gives your kids to her cult
>>714119121It's cool I don't play owlcat games for the wow engaging combat
>>714118721>you just do the same exact overpowered shit in every single fightThat's literally the same with almost any RPG including recent ones like E33 or BG3
>b-but you can also push enemies into the void and throw stacked barrels of bombsdoesn't change the fact the most optimal strategies for combat are just prebuff + auto attack
>>714118721You are absolutely, 100% correct and it's the biggest issue with the game. It makes replaying the game a nightmare since the combat is so trivial and pointless that there's no fun to be had in doing so, hell, there was barely any fun to be had in playing through it the first time it became so dull and banal.
All these fucking Owlcat apologists are lying through their teeth when they claim it's not an issue with the game, and no, you don't have to try super hard to do some obtuse build or some shit to break the combat in this game, on fucking Unfair if you have half a brain in how you built your characters and selected your items, everything facing your party becomes absolute cannon fodder by mid act 2 at the latest. It's why I can't ultimately recommend the game to anyone, the story and characters are fun, but when the core gameplay and combat is so utterly terrible, who cares?
If I want a game where the combat is played for me, I'd replay Unicorn Overlord, at least then I get to look at beautiful art and I actually have real character building decisions to make on top of it.
>>714104548>yuritrannyOpinion discarded
>>714119435You kids are obedient to you through your cult so just fuck your kids and make more kids
>>714119770>That's literally the same with almost any RPGNo it doesn't you disgusting faggot, this is a specific and notable problem with Owlcat games, even if you can argue it exists to some extent in other games, (which isn't even true in most cases) it is, bare minimum, massively magnified and a gigantic glaring issue with Owlcat games in particular.
People always bitch about how many companions you lose if you play heretical, but dogmatic is just as bad. I've "lost" like 4 already and I'm not that far into the game. But it's this or being a naive iconoclast, so...
>>714119323Maybe so.
>>714119998Dude wtf are you talking about? It's not only in Owlcat games that people find good strategies and then keep using them whenever possible. Have you even played any other RPGs? Any other video games? You're insane.
>>714120193lol
lmao
You stupid fucking nigger there is far more tactical variety and combat decisions to be made in fucking BG2 than there is in Owlcat games. That dude is 100% right, it might as well be a card game, you set up your prebuilt combo and it just clears the field every fucking time. There is no actual tactics, no strategy, no decision making in Owlcat combat. And yes, it DOES exist in other CRPGs, so stop trying to claim "it's all CRPGs, not just Owlcat games!" it only exposes you as a faggot tourist who hasn't played anything more than Owlcat shit and, at best, a Larian offering or two.
>>714120429nah man, you just have some personal problem with the game and are being clearly irrational. I bet you're a teenager
>>714118721Stop going for busted builds jeez
Ease up on pyromancer/executioner and shit
>>714118935Yes, optimizing the action economy is always the best strat
You can build tanky characters, by all means, they do work, but deleting half the enemies in the first turn is always better if you want to take half the damage
>>714120806I see you have no arguments then, as you futilely attempt to defend the sterile and terrible combat in these games, which Owlcat themselves have admitted needs to be fixed. I accept your concession.
>>714118935Like any turn based game, the best strategy is always to get more turns. Besides that though, there's all kinds of shit you can do that feels and plays very differently. Ignore the schizo
>>714120814Stop moving the goalpost. People have been leveling this criticism against the game since it was released, back then it was "just don't roll Officer, just don't use Arch Militant, just don't use Bounty Hunter, just don't use Idira, etc." as people kept finding ways to easily crush the game, regardless of class. It's an intrinsic issue that cannot be solved by adjusting one class here or there, or ignoring it for that matter. The problem is not the class balance or doing some specific combo, the combat in and of itself is badly designed and needs to be redone.
>>714119323You can fuck the leader of your enforcers if you have a background where your RT got tortured, because she thinks that's hot. The earliest possible opportunity to do this is right after the prologue. So, not a harem, but you can secure yourself a mistress at least.
>>714119998The only difference is Owlcat usually lets you stack enough bonuses to alpha strike everything into submission before enemies can react
But that is also the most optimal way of playing BG3, E33, TES games with shit like 100% Resists/Chamelion etc.
And while some RPGs might not let you do that like SMT it doesn't change shit since the main difference is battles are lasting longer for the sole reason you can't one shot enemies in 1 turn through stacking enough actions/damage, yet it's not like they can kill you as well, you are basically also repeating the same shit forever at no risk of danger if you know what you are doing, except instead of doing it in 1 turn it takes 10+
Even the likes of Elden Ring can be instantly trivialized 5m in by just getting Endure and spamming it, or Shield + Spear
>b-but you don't have to do thatYeah there's also nothing forcing you to spam Finest Hour and shit with Grand Strategist providing extra turns on turn 1 etc.
Go use the new Shields to tank and don't abuse Extra Turns if you want, the playstyle is there even if it's not the most "optimal" it still works just fine including on Unfair which is way more tolerable for ANY build/combo than PF Unfair
The only truly badly designed thing about the combat is the abundance of Extra Turn/Action/Attack stacking which can be avoided
>>714120429>it DOES exist in other CRPGscRPGs have always been one of the easiest genres to break, especially the older ones where you can still use all sorts of extremely cheesy hyper consistent cheese to trivialize battles just fine, see webm and that's with SCS
Once again the main difference is that battles will last longer than 1 turn but that doesn't change the fact you will be mostly spamming the same thing while completely safe which is the same result as RT except taking longer
And usually the cRPGs that focus more on building are the easiest ones to break like Underrail due to all the absurdly overpowered shit you can eventually make
>>714119908Your kids don't even know who their parents are lol
>>714121091You are legitimately autistic. Did you know that games are about having fun? Maybe you forgot in that minmaxing, no fun allowed brain of yours.
About to start this for the first time. Any beginner tips?
>>714121091Moving the goalpost? You're the one whining about alpha strikes and shit. Yeah, combat in Owlcat games is not very good. Yeah, RT is not a hard game at all unless you're brain damaged. Pat yourself in the back now.
>>714116964You can have kids with a navigator, they'll be regular ass humans even, just with a higher chance of being psykers. Just make sure to harvest some of her eggs and send them to her house so they can continue with their inbreeding and everyone's happy.
>>714119323>since by the lore of the setting the RT would have a gigantic haremYou could, or you could not. Don't pass your wet dreams as a necessity
>>714121287Playing as an Officer is powerful, but boring.
>>714121287Stop asking for tips like a tranny and just play the game
>dual-wielding shotguns keeps bugging out
have to re-equip them in each zones or it doesnt let me do the second attack
>>714121460Just go Pyro Officer and you fix that at level 1
What's the difference between a chain sword, a power sword, and a normal fucking sword?
>>714121971Chain swords do +25% crit damage
It doesn't matter anyways, Chainsaws mog any other melee weapon by far damage wise
Just keep to blades to use Bladedancer abilities but even for their normal attacks it's better to swap to Chainsaws
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>>714121287Make sure you always give the sunglasses to Heinrix.
>>714121971Chain sword is a sword that has a bunch of teeth on a motorized chain instead of a traditional blade. Power sword is a regular ass sword but with a device built into it that projects a matter disrupting field around the blade. Power swords are much rarer than chainswords and as such also more expensive, but come with the added utility of if the power field generator breaks or runs out of power, you can still use it as a regular ass sword.
>>714122185You mean the mirrored narc shades, because he's a narc.
>>714122185Name my band, /v/ gonna add Solomorn to it
>>714122402Innocence Proves Nothing
Is bladedancer pyro still the strongest build?
>>714111327He's male so he'll be good.
>>714122632Only in that you can one shot or almost one shot every single enemy regardless of LOS at the start of battle once you hit level 26
But that doesn't change the fact you have many other characters that still kill the entire enemy army in 1 turn before they can react + Overseer is very fun with Psyker
>>714122674Not everyone wants to fuck Marazhai like you so no, being male doesn't automatically mean he'll be good
>>714122759Incels seethe about Yrliet since they can't fuck her. Since he's male you'll find something else to whinge about.
>>714122402Degrees of Guilt.
how the fuck do you guys build solomorne he sucks ass in combat
Crazy how Jae would be easily salvaged if only Owlkek had bothered giving her Air of Authority, nevermind she's a fucking gang leader
but nope, enjoy not respeccing Officer levels as well
>>714122725>Overseer is very fun with PsykerBecause of the LOS bird that makes it so you can nuke everything while you sit on the other side of the map in full cover?
>>714122483Featuring the hit singles
>The Iceman Cometh>I Shot the Rogue Trader>Amnesec Blues
>>714123090Sorry redditbro but I dislike Yrliet because she's both boring and a cunt, I couldn't care less if she's fuckable or not, that's not going to make me like her
>you'll find something else to whinge aboutOh yes, I absolutely will, why they fuck are they adding ANOTHER eldar? This game's only xenos companions are eldar, and now DH is adding another one? And it's possible they'll be including another eldar female too? Holy shit get the fuck over elves Owlcat
>>714123323>>I Shot the Rogue Trader>(And I Liked It)
>>714123396He's the party wizard, you also have a kroot mercenary an Ogryn, and a baby Catachan(don't make fun of how small his knife is, he'll get a bigger one when he grows up).
>>714123396>why they fuck are they adding ANOTHER eldar?Because they already have the models and armour figured out
>>714123283No since you still need LOS to target the Raven for that sadly, but LOS for the Raven only
But Overseer Psyker is good for
>buffingBecause Raven mass spreads all single target Psyker buffs, and with Spirit Drape you cast them all at basically no cost, so Warp Speed, Prescience, Forewarning etc. for everyone
>more spell spammageBecause of the way their Strategic Adaptation power works, it's at the very least 1 extra attack and can be enhanced to cost 0 AP, and there's a 1 AP cost ability that makes the spell you spread auto spread again for more damage, so +2 extra attacks without having to rely on Finest Hour, +3 if Soldier for Run & Gun, and by the way all of these cost 0 AP if buffed through Finest Hour
>more damageyes, in this case you can use the Raven to spread offensive spells too but for that you need to trigger their Heroic Action first. Regardless it's still nice since a spreading Ignite or Psychic Shriek claps everything, the Raven also has 2 AoE damage abilities it can use while you're also using spells to bypass the attack limit/round
Having attacks of opportunity with a shotgun is pretty dangerous. About half the time the enemy runs in a way that gets half the team fucking nailed, bleeding and knocked down lmao
>>714123697Just take the talent that reduces aoe dmaage to your party and inceases their dodge against your aoe attacks
>>714118753Dual weilding on her becomes strong after you start dealing the majority of your damage from bonus effects that are independent of weapon damage, but she needs a big stick when she has no damage at the start.
>>714123247I built him as a benchwarmer
>>714123247He already has what he needs to deal a shitton of damage with his shotguns, just focus on making Glaito stronger
I just got the psycho assassin. Should I rush her personal questline now if I want to have freak children with her?
>>714124327he still needs both dual wield talents,arbites for2h shotguns and the normal one
All my characters' models are gone from the character screen, how the fuck do I fix this
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>you can interact with the bird
SOVL. This Archetype has so much effort put into it. It's fucking great.
>>714125101uhhhh but I was told that it had no reactivity?
>>714125149>listening to crying waifuniggersyou played yourself
PASQAL BOUNTY HUNTER ARC GUN IS BROKEN
>>714125302actually I'm a waifuGOD myself
>>714125101Why use a mod to see what will happen from every choice? Seems like it would ruin a lot of the fun by killing every surprise
AAAA! I GOT MYSELF A LADY IN WAITING! A WAIFU THAT FETCHES COFFEE ON DEMAND! Put all the other waifus in the trash, they can't compete
>>714125359Because I don't care ab out the surprise, I want the good ending
>>714125359I've played the game several times already. This is for some side stuff. Like seeing who's who in the bottomless pit choice, also to track various flags
>want to replay the game
>remember the Prologue
>remember the whole Act 3
>>714125458>having drinks gives stat bonuses>drinking amasec gives willpower bonusFunny, shouldn't it be the other way around?
>>714125615the prologue is good if a bit slow
act 3 as a whole can go fuck itself
>>714125458>Maive called Lizzy in the game filesWhy change it? It's Ves situation all over again
>>714125716prologue is fine I just hate doing it for the 10th time especially since they even cockblock you out of most gear until 3-4 battles in
>>714125458what are the buffs? I feel bad for not taking her along now
>>714120429By the way, I'm still waiting on all those cRPGs that supposedly don't have this issue. All you gave me two threads back was BG2, and we both know the balance in that game gets broken over your knee like it's fucking nothing you lying AIDS riddled nigger.
>>714125836+10 strength for double recaff, agility for sweet coffee and willpower for amasec. Single battle only, just like bathing. But it's nice to have. Flavourful
>>714111726cassia is a stuck up snooty rich girl, hate that shit
>>714125981Silence, peasant.
Danrok continues being gigabased
>>714126058>even Ulfar recognizes how based Chadrok is
>>714123090Yrlicuck attempts at deflection are always so funny.
Kibellah - more fun as an assassin or an executioner? Feels like both would fit her pretty well.
Are tech use and logic bugged? I have Pasqal in my party with his nerdy high int score and several levels into both skills but every time I come across a locked container or cogitator I have to work with chances of 40-60%
>>714122402>gonna add Solomorn to itcan he wear them? He has that big optic implant
>>714125458my coffee fetching onahole...
>>714126413Bladedancer is pretty easy mode for assassins since you can hit a target then flip over the enemy and get the other side.
>>714125669idira is a recovering alcoholic (and druggie) and has the highest base willpower, coincidence? I think not
>>714116082Naw the sequel to the game that let you shunt the Eldars to the Inquisition or out the airlock is gonna force you to play with them at all times. Also it will force you to play a femquisitor to get blasted by Eldar Corsair dick. Just like how RT forced you to have Yrilet and Marazhai in your party at all times or it would kill your PC and then you.
>>714126413Assassin is my choice for her
It doesn't get more fitting for the death cult assassin and using executioner with only bleed effects is a bit lame
>>714125359Playing without Toybox is tantamount to suiciding your save. And I've fallen one too many times for the usual Owlcat gotchas that I'm just gonna use Toybox to make them fuck off.
>>714126413Executioner. Literally built for it. Get her Dark Eldar weapon proficiency and slap two DEldar poison swords on her.
I've played all sorts of builds including Bladedancer Pyro memes etc. and I still think Officer is the most fun starter class to me, especially going into MT
It's just fun chaining Finest Hours
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>>714126421just checked he cannot
amusingly he can wear the eyepatch
>>714105796She was more than one dimensional and it was fucking annoying. Tells you to purge everything in one event and tells you to be merciful in another. Glad she ended up as Repentia in my playthrough cause I told her several times shes insane.
>>714126886Ruined. I fucking hate owlkeks so much it's unreal
>Pasqual got killed before he even got a turn
>again
why does this faggot always do this. I thought guys like him were supposed to be stronger than the flesh LMAO
>>714127103Don't put him on the frontlines then?
>>714127103Make him go Grand Strategist and give him Missionary Oath = profit
>kebab forcing herself into my nemesite killing band
God, she's annoying. I should have not recruited her
>>714126894>be merciful to people who deserve it>purge heretical niggasI fail to see how this is a problem in any way.
>>714127236It's her companion quest
>>714127170What's the point of giving him Missionary Oath.
So what's the classic Owlcat gotcha on the new medieval planet from Idris Elba's companion quest?
Can all healing abilities bring people back from being KO'd or just the psyker ones?
>>714124360no, you can take your time
half her shit is tied into the DLC main quest any way
>>714127429I have no idea what you mean by that. It's a great quest
Can anyone explain to me what the fuck Owlcat did to Initiative? Outside of my Grand Strategists, I have not won initiative ONCE in this entire fucking playthrough. Even on characters with sky high AGI.
>>714127330Good job, saved yourself a ton of trouble later.
>>714127791I've been asking myself this question for a year and a half. The kind of esoteric knowledge you need to understand initiative in Rogue Trader is simply not openly available for mortals like us
Me when my profit factor goes up
>>714127293Yeah, like I said, I should not have recruited her.
>AYO Rogue Trader we need yo help capturing this tax evader
>Fine will you join my retinue while I grant you passage on my ship?
>No
>Ok...
What a pathetic conversation also why is the game blueballing us so much with Solomorne? No other companion makes so many random appearances without joining up
>>714127986>letting the nemesite walk away
>>714128013GW forcing Owlfat (And fartshart). to mak the arr bee tees look cool.
>>714127731You know exactly what I mean. The usual Owlcat gotcha moment. The last WotR DLC had the the entire premise of the Festival in Kenabres (with bonus points for the cat lady), base Rogue Trader has like half the colony development choices, Void Shadows has too many to list them all just on account of the entire DLC being focused a fucking cult designed to subvert humanity. So I'm asking what the gotcha moment in this one is.
>>714127330there is no reason to indulge her or the dark elf
>>714128013yo you finna be wantin' to pet Glaito? aight, unc might lose a couple fingers though ya dig
>>714128131I will once again reiterate that I have no idea what you mean, schizo-kun. Either elaborate or take your meds
>>714128131the big reveal at the end is that (you) are gay
>>714128131I do not comprehend.
>>714127170Grand Strat = Pasqal always acts first
Missionary Oath = 1 free Extra Turn for all other allies (have them start adjacent to Pasqal so Pasq in middle and the rest in rectangle formation
This instantly gives you Momentum for every ally, also lets someone like Idira or Heinrix insta buff the entire party with Overseer Raven now while equipped with Spirit Drape
Same for Jae or Cassia with Skull Overseer pet and Voice of Command or Reveal the Light/any 1 AP offensive/debuff Power with Cassia, Argenta with her Hymn ability after 1 free attack etc, 1 Master Tact buff etc. you have a lot of options in this Extra Turn even with 1 AP (or 2 later with Exemplar Firebrand talent)
It then switches back to Pasqal and he can get talents through Grand Strat that let him refresh 1 AP for 0 cost which so he can follow up
with Joint Analysis to increase party damage +you drop the Strat areas on allies/enemies (ideally Backline on allies with Fire at Will talent for -1AP cost on basically anything ranged including some staff abilities, even Charge from Warrior works or Cassia's Lidless Stare)
>>714127791There's nothing to it, Initiative has always been extremely random in RT even with high AGI, which is why Grand Strategist on Pasqal & Cassia is so good
Anyways, with Void Shadows you can bathe on your quarters which highly increases Initiative especially if you have high AGI for main character, but that's only for 1 battle... still a lot of boss battles can benefit from it like a LOT of ones that take place inside the ship or starter ambushes in Footfall, Janus etc.
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He's based, never listening to /v/ again
>>714128232Google what a "gotcha" is and then rejoin this conversation and answer my question.
>>714125669Never heard of beer muscles and liquid courage?
HISSSSS
NOT EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER
YOU WILL DO AS I SAY!
>>714127801>implying this is the first timeI kiull her entirely based on what party I want to bring to Commoragh, in this case she has to compete with arbiteman so time to die.
>>714128324There are three anons (that i can tell) that are playing the game right now all have positive outlook on both the character and dlc. The rest are just parrtting dubious opinions they've read on leddit without having played the game
>>714128131>with bonus points for the cat ladySexo?
>>714128854No, an old hag that gives you a cat who is actually a razmir worshipper that's spying on you
>>714128854>>714128890She has the same VA as Areelu so I was waiting for the reveal that Areelu was there watching you. I guess that's what they wanted you to think.
>>714128978>for the reveal that Areelu was there watching youShe writes the journal, she is watching, that's no reveal
>>714129058don't be pedantic anon you know what I mean
>>714128890I am disappointed. Do not use the term cat lady lightly, anon!
I made a mistake by visiting that drifting voidship.
>>714129214it's very malicious that they put it in basically the 2nd system you'll head to
>>714129214I hope you had Idira and Jimmy to carry your asses through it
>>714127791bitch if you don't want to play our fucking games then don't. get a fucking life shitsucker
>>714129634Idira got knocked the fuck out by her own lightning and spawned a daemonette.
I should have taken Pasqal. Heinrix has been a total bro though. Prefer Abelard despite his bitching.
Also I executed Jae lmao. Probably cucked myself out of profit factor somewhere down the line.
>>714129531I've only done the first fight thus far. More to follow.
>>714130164Shereen how could you do this me
>>714130164>Idira got knocked the fuck out by her own lightning and spawned a daemonette.Well that's unfortunate
>I should have taken Pasqal. he's decent there since plasma weapons have good armour penetration
>Heinrix has been a total bro though.Is the only one in my experience who can safely tank the boss due to all the dodge he has. Abelard usula keels in two hits since unarmed attacks are for some reason almost impossible to parry and he can't dodge for shit the ranged attacks
Should my corrupt cop (Dogmatic with dips into Heretical) Arbite Officer dick Kibbles or Jae. I already shot down Cassia and shot Yrliet out an airlock.
>>714130498All the female romances except Yrliet deserve at least one playthrough IMO.
>>714130498Kibbles.
>>714130478I haven't used Heinrix enough to compare him properly to Abelard, but he is due for a kit upgrade now so I'll see how it goes in the second encounter.
I really need better helmets for my group anyway.
>>714128204What? Imagine how green with envy other Traders will be when they find out you have both species of Aeldari as pets. You could even breed them.
>>714130663Jae's romance is surprisingly hard to complete if you aren't using Toybox to reveal flags, she'll call it a fling if your trust counter isn't high enough.
>>714129098what the fuck is this image? is that cain and yarrick?
>>714131130I don't know, just found it in a random Warhammer thread and decided to repost it. Didn't know commissar uniforms were tight like that.
>Carnival of misery 3
What the fuck was Owlcat thinking
>going for the dogmatic glowie ending this time
>going to have to purge Nomos
I don't feel good about this one bros
>>714130498Has to be Jae, Kibella would make no sense. She may be a murder death blood cultist but it's all for the Emperor, she'd never tolerate heretical bullshit. Jae on the other hand loves heresy, she lives for it
>>714131601>Fuck balance!
>>714131601They were thinking the DLC had to sell, the same can't be said about this one
>>714131840Can you not talk about shit you nothing about.
>>714131740Who cares. Shitmos is shit. Just don't do its quest, or destroy it when you find the caches
>>714130305>Begone badly voice-acted "muh moral rogue!" shitskin!>"What?">I mean heresy.>*BLAM!*
>>714131978Let the man seethe in peace
>>714132065How was he seething? All he did was say that Jae was a better fit.
>only a single DLC this year
>it's not even half the content of Void Shadows
I don't get it
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So is Solomorne always one lvl ahead of (You)r party? I could have sworn that he was leveling with my party equally.
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This decrepit 30 years old man is making fun of me
>>714132326unc be on that warp shit fr
>>714132326>Pyromanwhore or Sanctikeks utterly BTFO'd by a blind organ playerShould have gained the right immaterial knowledge, FAGGOT
>>714132326Punish him by having Idira complete the ritual.
>>714132146they put in efforts for kibellah to make people think the other dlcs would be on par then apprently started dumping low effort garbage to fill up the season pass obligation
>>714132598>then apprently started dumping low effort garbageAt least you say "apparently" because you obviously haven't played it
>>714132552can you actually help if your RT is a telepath
>>714132320He joins at level 24 even if you rush his quest
>>714132320You gotta outlevel him on recruitment, you were probably level 23 when you got to the end of the ship quest so now he's just ahead of you permanently.
>>714118721The Pathfinder challenge is if, like me, you have no fucking idea of the classes and how they interact so you end up building some useless shit that can't even get you through the game.
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Anyone know if this counts as an Attack of Opportunity?
>>714133434I think she's a bit simple, like emder
>>714132710You know, I'm not sure.
Something to test on my next run.
>>714133470just the way I like them
>>714119435>Kibbles gives your kids to her cultOnly the firstborn.
Is bladedancer supposed to be so ridiculous? I got kibellah and she just kills everything by herself and now i want to reroll from my shitty soldier
>>714133843She's ridiculous because combat is ridiculous in the early game.
DFA+Dealth Waltz combined with movement and bloodstained buffs is stupid.
>>714133843Basically dancer breaks the early game action economy since it can just farm leap charges off chaff and gets to spend wounds instead of AP for abilities, it's still strong later but once you have more AP and more ways to cheat it evens out.
THE FIRST SACRIFICE OPENS THE EYE
If I don't want to Traumamaxx my Bladedancer Assassin should I still go Death World? Forge World seems decent for the Agi Bonus x 2% Bonus dodge. Quite a boon in survivability and damage at the cost of slightly lower Agility and Strength starting out.
>>714133843She falls off later on but remains good
She is godly against lots of low health enemies, but against a single strong target you will see soldier or bounty hunter can outdo her
>>714134703>She falls off later onLater on you have Chainsaws and Killing Edge spam after one Finest Hour
And by later on I mean Act 2
>>714134320i went forgeworld's subdermal. bladedancer has blessed scars which stacks +10 toughness per round when you heal so you crank up dumb armor on top of dodge with the basic +1 heal ring from the bloodspun web temple
>>714134703>She is godly against lots of low health enemiesThat's literally everyone
>the fucking dog bit Vigdis
put that thing down solomorne
>>714135094he just playin'
>>714134970That's also pretty good. Now wondering if I go Pyro or Sanctic. Pyro seems better even if I don't use powers just for the armor stripping (pretty good with blade dance) and the +1% crit per hit.
>>714135016Not really
Jimmy sucks against many enemies, either he has full momentum for the warrior ability or he kills two ar most, more likely 1
So does the new companion
>>714135186Post the slide.
>>714104992Even borderlands lets you start a new game in the dlcs with an appropriately leveled character, what's their problem?
>>714104992They're not planning anything, they just gave the generic response of "depends on the sales" when people asked if there was going to be more
If only Wrath could have got more party member DLCs too
This will always be the funniest quest.
>>714136474is she wrong though? it's little different from keeping a jar of ashes
>>714136617If you sleep with a Jar of ashes like a teddy bear and speak to it you'd also be a nutjob.
Why the FUCK does building an, Omnissiah forgive me, hospice for servitors increase your profit factor?
>>714137250People mistake the iconoclast protectorate for a circus and it attracts tourists
Alternatively deep keynesian economics (we can generate infinite wealth by making servitors work on servitors using public funds)
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I wish we had another abhuman companion just because Cassia is sympathetic to them
>>714105093Abelard carry.
officer psycer or officer noble
or
i wanna try a dodger tank should I go Pyro warrior or pyro blade dancer
>>714136474That new portrait is fantastic.
>>714139945Psyker (Pyro) blade dancer into executioner and just one shot everything.
>>714140787I wish he had a helmet. Thankfully someone made an edit.
>>714142357>covering up the handsome gilf faceruined
>>714104917>better character than kebabAbelard, flail this schizo and wipe out the bloodline of anyone who insults my wife
What should I pick as my 2nd archtype for my pyro psyker soldier? The raven is cool but I worry I'll fry it by accident
>>714134703>against a single strong targetmake her an assassin and just keep jumping/moving around the tough guy, hitting the weak spot every time. then do it all again in reverse. she fucking dominates single targets
What is the /v/erdict on Lex Imperialis?
>>714116161Why did they even do this stupid shit. The sororitas are RIGHT THERE.
>>714146328Donโt know. Iโll play it when it releases
>>714146328So far I really like it, but I'm almost finished with chapter 2 and haven't bothered picking up the new companion because I made my character that new class and it would feel silly to have 2 of them in the party.
>>714146672Itโs owlcat. Iโm not gonna pay to test their PBE. Iโll wait 2 months for the finished product
>>714125458Can you request tanna instead?
I bought the Pathfinder bundle with game and all it's DLCs instead but how is the new DLC? I haven't finished Rogue Trader or own the DLCs but from what I read here, the first DLC has better writing and the newest companion is basically Jacob from Mass Effect 2. Is this all true?
>>714146907All trve but at least Jacob had his daddy issues
>>714146907He's more like Judge Dredd than Jacob.
What am I doing wrong with dual weapon combat? I have enough AP, I want to use my axe to cause bleeds after a normal attack, but this bullshit won't let me.
>>714147361I think it's a bit bugged. sometimes switching between weapon sets will fix it in combat, other times you have to re-equip them between areas I hear
>>714146328>Lex Imperialisthis the one with the gay nigger?
There should only have been Dogmatic and Iconoclast options. Heretical is half baked and underwhelming.
>>714148653That's just a fancy word for gay
>>714148816Liking both sexes mutually?
>>714148950The majority of "bisexual" men sooner or later become fully gay. Doesn't work for women thought, since lesbianism is a choice like celibacy, not a real sexual orientation.
>>714148950If you don't mind sucking dick it's gay no matter how you call it.
>>714148950all women are bisexual
all bisexual men are "gay" but will fuck anything
>accidentally started a romance with the navigator when I thought that dialog option would have ended that
>even in fucking video games I'm clueless about romance
lord captains...
>>714146550You have no idea how bad it is. All the recent shorts released by GW featured girlbosses in command.
>>714149103>"bisexual" men sooner or later become fully gay.I hear the contrary and most just get in relationships with the opposite sex. Plus bisexuality isn't dictated by ones current relationship. By that logic everyone here is gay since most don't have a romantic partner.
>>714149119And say if a bisexual does mind, what then?
>>714127330KEK
E
K
GET FUCKED XENO SCUM
>>714149469This is some Olympian levels of mental gymnastics I've ever seen.
>>714149583Then you aren't gay. What kind of stupid post is this? Are you a woman jerking off to yaoi?
>>714116161The empire is literally a xenophobic militarist fascist authoritarian empire built on corruption and lies. They deserve EVERYTHING THEY FUCKING GET
What would Trump say about the xenos?
>The Drukhari are some bad folks, everyone. Trust me. They load people up on these torture ships - yeah, that's what they call em - and nothing good happens there
>>714149651give it a few more years and we will have rulebook material explaining how guardsmen can get hormone treatment for free from the astra militarum during their term of enlistment
>>714149805Nah, but the Tau offers that plus free healthcare and tuition to lure people away from the Imperium
>>714149771>genestealers are our greatest allies
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>>714148794I liked it. It was neat seeing your crew slowly getting corrupted and disposing of the loyalists
>>714149986The Emperor commands and I obey
Through the warp and far away
>>714148794I'm hoping for a herectical dlc before i do a playthrough.
>>714149646You are aware not everyone likes to go down on their partners, even bisexuals? Some simply prefer other methods.
>>714150057I just can't feel that playthrough. Being evil is fun sometimes but heretical is beyond evil. It's not just being a mindless psychopath or a ruthless sociopath or whatever, you're a perfectly intelligent person doing everything you can to send everyone into eternal torment because you're mad about the (admittedly far from perfect) status quo. It's like curing cancer by torturing the patient for eternity I can hardly even imagine a character to RP where that would make any sense besides an utterly insane one.
>>714150325So I take it you suck down it then?
Worst case in the Imperium, your life fucking sucks hardcore and then it ends, and maybe something better happens. Worst case with chaos, well, life in the Imperium would seem like heaven in comparison. Infinite suffering that never ends and that you never adapt to, always something new and worse forever
>>714151279Join the bugs cult today
>>714151279Sounds like your own fault for not being born into the nobility.
>anons a few threads ago argue about how to pronounce "arbites"
>replay Inquisitor: Martyr
>captain pronounces it as "ar-bites"
>one dialog mentions it as "ar-bee-tees"
So I'm guessing it's like a regional/accent thing? Along with something like if your first language is Low or High Gothic?
>>714152581Kyzar vs Seezar
>>714116823>Does he have a moral quandry about his duty, too?dogmachuds are too autistic for this
>>714153941>say hello to establish contact>get shot
>>714155229The American Experience
When are they announcing the cute deldar gf companion for Dark Heresy?
>>714157863Seriously, the cast they chose to reveal was scientifically formulated to be as disgusting to straight men as possible.
>>714157863I think we're all setting ourselves up for disappointment. It could have just been a model for Dark Eldar in general. I don't think it was a companion model.
>>714149547You know what they say.
Just be yourself
>>714157910>>714158021Whatever the case, Owlcat knows their audience by now. They'll deliver on the waifus, trust the plan.
>>714149651>fascistThere's that word again.
>>714118125SHE LITERALLY GIFTS YOU THE BEST AND ONLY TWO-HANDER IN ACT 1, YOU FUCKING MORON
>>714118125bro she absolutely slaughters niggas, how the fuck did you build her
>>714158140Their team has grown and changed. The waifu statue for WotR and RT was Arue and Cass. For this? It's a fucking bird. (Kroot are cool but they're not attractive)
>>714158608RT got Cass for base game and Kibs as DLC, which was fairly recent as well. I have faith.
>>714132936I'm the same, but accidently stumbling into an OP build is too easy in Rogue Trader. Unless you actively gimp yourself, or are actually clinically retarded and just pick only weapon proficiencies or something, your characters are going to be insanely powerful compared to the enemy. As the other tranon said, they try to sidestep this by adding invulnerability phases, or Larian gimmick fights that catch you off guard the first time and but after that it's easy, but it's not enough.
I think the biggest issue is that you can do too much too soon while you only fight a couple of tough enemies at a time that are surrounded by useless mobs. They could just give bosses lair/legendary actions, but I think a better solution would be to just add more enemies and make the grunts actually a bit of a threat. The fact that every single fight boils down to bumrushing the boss, and then slowly picking off the stragglers in the corners of the map sucks. If there was a secondary factor at play like the ground mechanics in Divinity 2, or maybe 3-way fights with 40 somewhat difficult opponents, that would be great. But every fight is just you running in and obliterating everybody in one turn. And if the enemy does get a move, they'll probably spend it shooting their teammates.
>>714158942I think rpg system for this is just weak. No matter if it follows tabletop or ielcat own homebrew.
In dnd/pathfinder everything has an opportunity cost. Speccing in one thing leads to being locked out of something. Like wizard can't wear plate (for free) and martial can't cast, etc.
In rt the whole system is just NUMBER GROW BIGGER leading to the whole thing becoming a cookie clicker once you get a hang of it.
>>714157558As opposed to the european experience, which is let muslims rape your daughters, throw acid in their and your faces, and respond with Thank you sir, may I have another?
>>714159509holy shit we live rent free in your head lmao
do I just play the base game now and replay it when all the DLC is out or wtf
>>714159425Yeah the system is a bit too simplified. There needs to be more mechanical depth going forward. Equipment that can only be used by very specific class combos, better out of combat depth besides the, like what, 6 stats in the game? More ways to set up fights with sneaking or traps, less action spam and more of a focus on difficult decision-making.
Do DLCs have base companions voice act in the DLCs? If so, how they gonna use Ulfar when the VA trooned out and likely did fuckery to his voice?
>>714162071>likely did fuckery to his voice?Troons' normal voice stays the same. They just don't talk with it.
Hello, couple of questions for you lads
this where i am in the story (havnt done the kaviar shit yet or wahtever)
do lanes stay green if i warp shit them? are those warp points limited? what paths should i warp green?
can i recruit the dark eldar dude as a dogmatic riot police?
are there ways around being able to shot your weapon only once per round? what is fire rate?
why are these devs so retarded? i just noticed they have a big patch coming, so why tf did i start, should i just wait for the next 2 dlcs to release + another year for fixes?
>>714163528I still don't even know if wrath of the righteous is finalised yet lol
>>714146626He asked for the /v/erdict not the avatarfagging tranny verdict
>714104548
Opinions from AI Slopper go into the trash compartment, not even worthy of (You)
>>714163528Yes
No, but they're not handed out willy-nilly either, make good choices and plan ahead
Personally I make the routes between my planets safe and pray for the rest
Yes
Yes, Soldiers in particular are adept at that
Fire rate indicates how many hits you get from a burst attack, though it's paired with recoil and such so not every hit will hit (though in my experience the game is pretty generous about accuracy)
Owlcat
>>714163528>do lanes stay green if i warp shit themyes they stay the color they are currently forever unless you changed them for better
>are those warp points limitedNo, you get more from some warp events and at a point you can get free +50 by choosing Cassia as one of your companions during Coronation event at the end of Act 2
>what paths should i warp green?Reach Dargonus then create Warp paths directly connecting it to your other Colonies for faster travel between them
Otherwise green paths don't matter, Yellow is fine, Orange can be good for farming enemy encounters but there's a pretty tough one time only battle event that happens only on Orange Paths where you start alone in your room vs enemies and allies gradually join
>can i recruit the dark eldar dude as a dogmatic riot policeYes
>are there ways around being able to shot your weapon only once per round? Yes, some classes have abilities for that like Soldier's Run & Gun, the easiest way to overcome it is through Finest Hour Heroic from Officer which sets it to unlimited so long as you have enough AP
>what is fire rate?How many times you shoot at once when doing Burst attacks, Fire Rate of 8 means you fire 8 times for each Burst
>>714146907>is basically Jacob from Mass Effect 2. Is this all true?Not even fucking close, you're reading the posts of anons seething because they didn't get another sex doll to fuck, he's nothing like Jacob. He's a million times more similar to Ekundayo from Kingmaker, complete with having a dog and all
>>714164368>this nigga legitimately thinks Ekun was good
>>714145270Psyker and soldier aren't the best synergy especially offensive psyker in my opinion, soldier goes to arch militant for always crit damage or to master tactician for insane single strike damage. Honestly for psyker you already got jimmy which will always replace abelard in your team, it's sad but true, honestly i like that you can tell abelard to introduce you to everything but everything abelard can do jimmy can do it better, spec into executioner and you'll never need to worry about enemy with >100% armor
>>714130498Get toybox and tick jealousy begone, ezpz
>>714165176>Psyker and soldier aren't the best synergy especially offensive psyker in my opinionrun n gun give extra psyker attack and is riddled with crit% bonuses, arch-militant wildfire give extra psyker attack(which all adds up to let you self-ignite fpr the extra psi rating, walk into a crowd, and firestorm crows to cinders to your hearts content) and versatility is trivial to crank up with kick and single/aoe psyker abilities to become invulnerable with cautious approach. you don't even need the other companions
>>714128249Cassia tactician or overseer? Which one had the best utility? So far tactician cassia can nuke enemies with the eyes but overseer can use voice of command on all surrounding allies with the servoskull
Lads....
Dare I say that I love Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader?
>>714118721Yeah I really don't like the combat either. For me it comes down to three main issues: firstly it's impossible to remember what even triggers the million conditional passives you have from all your equipment and talents, so you never feel their impact.
Secondly there's just too much fucking shit to click on your turn. You get like 6 AP and can only make one attack so have to spend most of it clicking three self-buff abilities every turn, it's just tedious.
Thirdly the combat encounters aren't connected at all, your state resets almost completely between them. In games like BG1/2 even if you win an encounter you might win flawlessly, or barely scrape through with half health and barely any spell slots left. What this does is ensure there's always a challenge even if the encounter isn't likely to kill you. Without it, any encounter you have a =>70% chance of winning is basically a chore, and that's most encounters in virutally all RPGs including Rogue Trader.
I know traumas exist to address this, but they can be healed instantly and again they don't really feel impactful anyway.
Not that they will, but this is what I'd like to see for the next game:
>scrap AP and just have one move, one use and one attack action on each turn>cut down on the conditonal talents and have more universal actions like dash, disengage, overwatch and ready vs. appoach>only partially heal lost wounds after battle>introduce bonus XP for faster clears and for fighting consecutive encounters without returning to the hub to heal
>>714165176NTA can you nuke good with Sanctic or Telepath? I don't like Pyro fire nuke theme, it's kind of overdone and lame.
>>714163528>i just noticed they have a big patch coming,I'll stop replaying then, I only just began Act 1 anyway.
I've been putting my playthrough on hold (stopped in act 2 on janus) waiting for Lex Imperialis for so long that now that it came out I lost all desire to resume the game
>>714165619Grand Strategist is the most useful by far for Cassia.
Cassia acting first means you have a very easy time instantly debuffing enemies with a Castigating Staff + Waking Nightmare, movement skills and also buffing allies through Infusing + Reveal the Light & Mend Reality AND dealing damage + stunning enemies what with her Lidless Stare. Lastly with Decisive Response from Overseer she can also buff one ally + grant them an Extra Turn at just 1 total AP cost
She doesn't need the extra damage from Master Tact and she won't have the space for any MT or Overseer Powers since she wants more Navigator Powers & Talents
And yeah it also combos amazingly with Grand Strat Pasqal
>>714165910Yes, Sanct has the one of the best staves in the game for the best AoE from Drusians factions in Act 2 pretty early
Telepath is mostly for its Pain Channeling Talent, later you do have a Power similar to Cassia's Lidless Stare though
> Lastly with Decisive Response from Overseer
From her starter Officer class, I mean. Be sure to pick the 1st & last upgrades for her Heroic.
Anyways, Fire at Will from Grand Strat + Backline also means she'll cast Lidless Stare at 1 AP and Grand Strat Pasqal often acts before her even as a Grant Strat herself so Pasqal can already set the Backline up
>>714166532So basically you pick grand strategist but keep taking navigator talents when level up?
Fuck me, that was way too close
>>714166924Yes, unironically.
Both Nav Powers + Talents, it's why Grand Strat is so good for her since the benefit of always acting first is a passive you gain instantly.
And trust me, Initiative in this game is so absurdly random, that acting first is a massive tactical advantage, especially on an Officer like Cassia who can grant Extra Turns so it's not just her acting first.
Just remember to give her Decisive Response asap from Officer, she doesn't need any other Officer Talents or Powers.
>>714165640Itโs a good game. Iโve added it to my backlog.
>>714166946>he was born a plebLol good luck in the next life
>>714165640We hate Rogue Trader here
>>714167058Thanks, i guess i gonna respec cassia later. I also find it kinda hilarious but rational idea in steam forum that you give that heretic heavy bolter/bolter to idira, honestly that thing never crossed my mind and i always dump it into cargo but maybe i'm gonna try that
is there a way to display the character creator default outfit over the armor? they all look fucking horrible on my cop
i want that judge dredd golden plate thingy
>>714166946Anti-Imperium stuff always comes off as supremely cringe-inducing.
>You should hate Humanity's only hope because of... poor people!
>>714167239Idira is much better spamming her Staff Arc Lightning early, just give her Uncanny Sight + Tides of Excellence from Operative and then Psychic Barrage + Second Sight as generic and she's set for Act 1, well don't forget to get Psyker Minories later
>>714167509Rogue Trader really went: WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY!
>>714167431humanity's only hope is chaos however
>>714167431>durr you should hate people living in awful conditions and with no hope just so I personally don't up living in awful conditions and with no hopeA rising tide should lift all boats, not just the yachts
We should all rise together or perish together.
All for the greater good.
>>714163617Perfect then I linked him to a perfect encapsulation of /v/.
>>714167873>>714167948>Buh muh anarchism>Buh muh caste-inclusive communismThat's nice traitors, now fave the wall.
>>714167431>durr le imperium are le good guiseyeah, about the smartest take you can expect of an average /v/edditard
>>714166982Problems with Aurora?
>>714168145>edditAdd the r and feel free to go back there
>>714168145>The aliens and literal daemons are the good guys!Piss off.
>>714168224>n-no ucool comeback, did they teach you this one in your special ed classes today?
>>714168286>there must be le good guise in the settingoh look, another knuckle dragger
>>714168193Or was it the Footfall cultists and the pink horror?
>>714168431Footfall cultist me think
>>714168065You have to understand for humanity to win this war we need to work for the greater good
>>714168378If demons exist in a setting then they are automatically evil due to their nature.
If aliens exist in a setting then they are automatically evil due to not being human.
Therefore whichever faction that isn't demonic or alien os the good faction.
Cope however you feel like it, the Imperium are the de facto good guys of 40k.
We should improve the Imperium somewhat.
>>714168705Cawl and Guilliman are doing exactly that
>>714168705>[Dogmatic]:Yet you willingly uphold its foundation. Curious!
>>714168193No, that one is from the last dlc. See the crate behind Heinrix? You need to drop it with a tank. By shooting a counterweight. With a tank gun. I wasn't sure if Jimbo was standing underneath it or in the safety, so I was just praying to the God-Emprah it wouldn't smash him too along with some thugs kek
>>714168681midwit take tbqhwyg
>>714166946yeah, that's what being poor in a hive city is like
unironically life at the underhive can be better if you befriend the right gangers and mutants and don't live too close to the block size sceptic tanks
>>714169116>Guys guys why don't we try being diplomatic with the Demons, Tyranids, and Orks? Think about THEIR feelings!You deserve to be turned into a servitor.
>>714168837by unnintentionally leaking the sangprimus data to bile and his nu-men program
>first thing you see on the new feudal planet is a guy wearing some other dude's face and a clown who quite clearly has a skull for a face
Yeah okay this doesn't reek of chaos in general and Slaanesh in particular at all, I'm sure this planet is completely on the level and not some sort of fucked up trap or anything.
>>714127791grand strategist trivializes unfair, and i avoid it because every battle plays the same with GS or chrono, but now they added new options for dealing with initiative rolls. the skull can tank and force everyone to attack it early, while also turning half cover into full cover for anyone in the AoE. even on unfair, it can take 2 hits from the sire before going down, and that is before any buffs it receives from idira's raven, and you can ress it for 2 ap.
>>714166946Basically the life of about 300 million chinese people right now.
>>714169369>15Does this count allied NPCs too?
>>714169030Ah.
I haven't got to that part yet.
>>714169470yeah. nta but i got that cheevo while doing jae's quest in the warehouse with her cronies
>>714169224there's no "we", retard
40k is a piece of fiction, (You) are not in the Imperium because it doesn't fucking exist and the humanity in 40k isnt the humanity of real life
What's up with low functioning autists and inability to differentiate between fantasy and reality?
>>714169267sharrowkyn truly died for nothing
>>714169587this pedantry outs you as the real autist, retard
>>71416958740k is a fantastic litmus test of who would or would not survive in a difficult future. Here's a hint; the people betraying their race wouldn't be the survivors.
>>714169724>n-no ucool comeback, did they teach you this one in your special ed classes today? :^)
>>714169725>durr [an opinion on a piece of fiction] really shows what would happen in a [made up scenario]outstanding take, hall of fame-tier braindead
>>714167431>Being told that the life of the common hive world factory worker is actually a shit life is... LE ANTI IMPERIUM PROPAGANDA
>>714166946In the grim darkness of the far future, we can afford prosthetics but not actual belts?
what the FUCK are kleppas
>>714169376Objectively better DLC with more content than gay nigger from outer space, also objectively stronger class/gameplay additions, she won without even trying
>>714167431The Imperium is an ossified and dying empire which dug itself into a corner. at best it's a stagnant and repressive place where thousands years old institutions lord over wretched serfs for their own benefit all in the name of a monarch who's revered like a god even though he is functionally dead and irrelevant to all but a few.
It's not that there are better options elsewere but I always keep in mind the GW are brits and that they write from the standpoint of people from, and living on, the accursed British Isles so a decaying imperial power with pompous aristocrats ruling over the desiccated corpse of a once ubiquitous empire and their authority stemming from antiquated rules and traditions makes sense because they're literally writing about what they know and cranking it up to 11.
>She won without even tryACK
>>714171332Yes, even if you don't care for Kibellah at all her DLC still has more content and she's way more integrated into the game than Solomorne
Kibellah has content starting from Act 1 and even different Colony outcome suggestions
Solomorne does not