>hero makes a last ditch attempt to save the world with his friends
>villain betrays the hero
>public realizes that the villain is evil
>using this new found power of friendship and public adoration, the hero comes back stronger than ever and saves the world
What's your favorite video game with this trope?
Mines Persona 5 :)

>>hero makes a last ditch attempt to save the world with his friends
>>villain betrays the hero
>>public realizes that the villain is evil
>>using this new found power of friendship and public adoration, the hero comes back stronger than ever and saves the world
>What's your favorite video game with this trope?

getting mogged on all fronts.
if only he had turned around and ignored his mana

>>>hero makes a last ditch attempt to save the world with his friends
>>>villain betrays the hero
>>>public realizes that the villain is evil
>>>using this new found power of friendship and public adoration, the hero comes back stronger than ever and saves the world
>>>What's your favorite video game with this trope?

>>714123458 (OP)
Too bad it won't be enough.

>>714123458 (OP)
Revenge of the sunfish

grok explain this stop killing games stuff to me like im 5 years old

>>>>hero makes a last ditch attempt to save the world with his friends
>>>>villain betrays the hero
>>>>public realizes that the villain is evil
>>>>using this new found power of friendship and public adoration, the hero comes back stronger than ever and saves the world
>>>>What's your favorite video game with this trope?

>>714124142
>>714124549
>>714124872
I look like this

Welcome to the finding out era

>>714124872
>cuckolds think these images of Vance make him appear weak
>They do the opposite and promote his image and make him well known among voters
>Ironically helping to promote him to a place where he's popular and known enough to run for president.
Kek

>>714123458 (OP)
Fuck off with your eceleb faggotry

69% soon.

>>714125181
Whoa, offtopic, sweatie!

>>>>>gleepo meek a lss ditt attmpt da saev da wrl wa ha frenzz
>>>>>pibbin betzzz da gleepo
>>>>>pubick reezzees daz da pibbin za ebol
>>>>>uzn dez ooo oun owor a frenzzsip a pubick adorpon, da gleepo omesa ack ongzer daz ebper a saev da wrl
>>>>>zaats oour vorit vidgam vit daz tope?

>>714125198
Yeah?
>>714114301

Some games deserve to die, and their fans deserve to be abused

>>714124620
Game companies shouldn't be able to sell you a game they cut support for within the matter of years, months, or weeks or they should let the community take over by releasing tools so the community can maintain the servers. They shouldn't just steal your money from you.

Petition to make multiplayer games slightly less jewish rustles the jimmies of blizzard nepo baby who tries spreading misinfo to kill it. Whole community rallies again nepo baby. Petition now over two thirds of the way to 1 million signatures (or the amount needed for the EU governing body to give a shit). When someone says anything bad about SKG, just keep in mind that you're being taken for an idiot goy by devilish jews.

>>714125181
shhhhh,
let them tie their own noose

>>714123458 (OP)
>villain betrays the hero
whose the villain? THe blizzard guy?
Might as well go crazy with the shit then
>Villain rapes kills bezaglle sucks/fucks and is MEAN to the hero + betray

>>714124620
Greedy people want to be able to take away the toys you have and make it so that the only toys you can have are the ones that make them the most money.

>>714123458 (OP)
I feel gn didn't want to really help this guy. Used his secondary channel which gets a tiny fraction of views compared to the main one

>>714123458 (OP)
So in terms of people who are for SKG
>Gamers
>People who enjoy freedom
>Consumer right activists
>The Postal Devs

People against SKG
>Corporatists
>Libertarians
>Republicans
>Third worlders hired by the first 3 groups

>>714124620
Okay! Imagine you have a super fun toy, like a video game you love to play. You bought it, so it’s yours, right? But one day, the people who made the toy say, "Sorry, you can’t play with it anymore!" They turn it off, even though you paid for it. That’s not fair, is it?The "Stop Killing Games" stuff is about people saying, "Hey, that’s not okay!" They’re trying to make sure that when you buy a game, you can keep playing it forever, even if the company that made it stops supporting it. They don’t want companies to "kill" games by shutting them down, especially if you need to connect to the internet to play them.They’re asking for rules to make sure games stay alive, like letting people run their own game servers or play without needing the company’s help. It’s like making sure your toy stays yours to play with, no matter what!

>Signatures today: +2.721
>We need at least 10759 signatures per day on average!

What if I want to kill games?

>>714126097
You can kill your copies of games, piss and shit on it if you want to, just don't touch my copy.

>>714126097
You're not actually killing games you're just enabling every game to become live service slop with planned EOS run by Ubisoft, EA, Hi-Rez, Netease, etc

fact: white men with long brown hair are the saviors of the universe

>>714126332
>brown
That is dark blonde IMBECIL

>>714126332
I will never not appreciate Burzum. His bass work for Mayhem is pretty good for what it's worth as well.

Look, on principle I cannot support the movement because the face behind it is so insanely ugly. That guy is hideous.

>>714126078
It was at 650 something thousand when I woke up this morning, it's now at 688k.

>>714126097
You're already killing games by using steam. You never owned games. You own a license to them. This has always been the case with physical games. People just didn't bother reading the tos saying what you can and can't do with it thoroughly.

>>714126332
>saviors of the universe
>lives on welfare with an autistic fr*nch woman and making the worst tabletop games you've ever seen

>>714126438
Filosofem is and always will be one of the best Metal albums ever recorded,

>>714126495
yeah of course you would support the gay furry nigger instead you disgusting subhuman, kill yourself.

>>714126495
>he judges men based on fuckability
Faggot

>>714125181
We defending the pajeet lover now? Please kys nigger

>>714125246
understood

>>714125979
What if I think it's noble but retarded?

>>714126807
I'm sorry I don't suck off enough e-celeb dramatubers to know who you are referring to at all.
>>714126872
>that guy
>man
He's borderline soiboi and I can only guess that you are too.

>>714125979
you're part of the top group

>>714123458 (OP)
Couldn't he look fucking presentable to pitch his idea?

>>714127658
Can't you look more presentable trying to trick the goys? Everyone hates kikes now.

>>714126685
>>lives on welfare
This is based though
Imagine being a wagie in 2025

>>714126097
Sign the petition then. Stopping shit games (from existing) is the whole point of it.

>>714128104
explicitly not based when it goes against everything you say

>>714126078
Is it perchance because it's like 3 fucking AM in Europe TODAY, which is the first of July?

>>714125453
Tell me honestly, how often do you play your old games?

>>714129560
Every day

>>714124142
>>714124549
>>714124872

keep on malding ferret fucker
hope they all get dutch oven'd with weed smoke

>>714129560
I've been going on a binge on old shit games lately
I played The Third Birthday recently, now I'm on Digimon World 4 and once I beat that I'm going to Mega Man X5

>>714129560
Playing original Riven right now.
CyanWorlds didn't just not take that down to force people to get the remake, they released compatibility patches the day the remake released.

>>714126078
retard anon, there were roughly 33K+ signatures yesterday, the day just started

>>714125181
I think you're overthinking it anon. They just make him look goofy, nobody with a brain takes them seriously it's only morons who think it's sticking it to him or some 4D chess move.

Why don't you just pirate more signatures?

>>714130664
no hes right, zoomers and younger generations listen through memes, vance embraces those stupid pictures of him because he knows it keeps him relevant

>>714126910
Pajeetas can be cute. Would wife one, my only fear is having a Half Indian son.

>>714130806
saar do not redeem the sperm

>>714130497
I supported SKG purely to spite Ubisoft for the shit they did to Cyan.

>>714124620
It's about getting lawmakers to make legislation stating that when developers of online only games end service they would be required to release the tools that would allow fans to host their own servers so the game can remain playable. Developers have an issue with this for some reason even though it would cost them nothing and some nepobaby streamer keeps misrepresenting the idea in an attempt to kill it.

>>714126078
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voRUgM-RGeA
new video dropped a few hours ago and has already 300k views

Yeah I'm fucking stupid as fuck and if one of the MMOs I played was brought back with a single player client I'd probably hop on to it even though not having any multiplayer aspect would completely defeat the point

>Pirate "my game doesn't have save files because its linked to steam achievements" software
>actively avoids admitting he is wrong or misunderstands something on all fronts to the point of aggression.
>claims everyone is below him and only he knows what is good and bad.
>actively gets his fans shit on in ashes of creation because his guild has become a punching bag with a bounty on it.

>>714131448
Please understand, he's on his 8th puberty.

>>714123458 (OP)
i'm going to laugh my ass off when it turns out that ferretman was right and when the ejew shits out its classic retarded style of legislature, it causes all major publishers to flee the eurozone and never publish any games in that region ever again, which leads to a domino effect complete industry collapse and literally kills off (triple a slop) videogames
it's gonna be some real monkey's paw curl type shit for sure, and the industry has been long overdue and in dire fucking need of a complete collapse, so in the end it'll save games from the megecorpo lazy jewslop theocratic bullshit that they're currently quagmired in

>>714131448
you would think someone who has gone through puberty twice would be more mature

>>714130360
>Third Birthday
Nice, I feel like the game gets shit on to the point that nobody seems to notice it's actually fun and has great music.

>>714131602
I only got to the first 20 minutes of gameplay and dropped it because I got bored lmao

>>714131551
>freed from live service shit
>this is somehow a bad thing
I'm not following you, anon.

>>714125332
this guy gets it

>>714129560
I've transferred my entire PS2 library to my PC for emulation and even looked up how to set up multiplayer for PS2 games for online games. It's not that hard in all honesty.

>>714131551
>only homegrown eurojank games for the EU

>>714126097
then you would be based and white, unlike /v/

>>714124620
Jews want you to own nothing and be happy.

>>714131741
exactly, it'll be a renaissance

>>714131551
It won't do any of that shit. All those always online single player games will have an offline option, as they always should have done, and the industry will have to develop server software that they can release to also be abandonware because no one is going to do jack shit for the average liveslop game.

>>714131792
>be happy
Would nuke the SSRI market.

>>714131676
that's because you're a strawmanning illiterate retard

>>714123458 (OP)
I like Ross but why is he such a little bitch? He’s always whining and complaining. Especially in that latest stream. “Guys I’m just SO exhausted guys I DONT HAVE THE TIME RIGHT NOW IM JUST SPENT IM SO EXHAUSTED THIS HAS TAKEN A LOT OUT OF ME” it’s like he’s describing the most difficult thing in the world when all it boils down to is typing emails to people and talking with organizers on a discord. He does the same shit when he’s talking about why his game dungeon is delayed for the 10th time. It can’t be THAT hard.

>>714131243
I'm an employee of a studio that runs a live service game. One of the difficulties following that fairly simple ask would be is the sheer complexity of the backend, and the shared architecture across multiple games. There are actual dozens of physical servers required for one player to play the game as intended, being able to move between areas and access their inventory. Even the dev-side stuff that lets you emulate and run locally is extremely limited.
Asking a game that runs like that to adjust to "just let me run it offline," is a fairly huge ask, and that's not saying anything about, "let me run a server so I can play with my friends."
I'm supportive of the initiative, but online games are fucking complex, aren't getting simpler, and the, "then make it fuckin simpler" approach is fairly unreasonable. Still, the objective of not letting what are essentially single or low scale multiplayer games die is worth all the messy complexity, especially because fuck Ubisoft in particular.

>>714132106
>All those always online single player games will have an offline option,
no they won't, because there won't be any at all, but you go and enjoy your fantasy, retard

>>714132249
Dealing with law is exhausting and he didn't want to do this to begin with.

>>714132267
ubisoft has never once made a good game in their lives. whatever the result of this becomes, as long as ubisoft fucking dies then i'm satisfied

>>714132346
Everything is exhausting to this guy. Making a game dungeon is exhausting. Making freeman’s mind is exhausting. Doing his once a month stream is exhausting. Maybe he needs to relax and get a grip.

>>714132498
That's what living in Poland does to a motherfucker.

>>714125246
maclunkey

>>714132498
Ross has been in the content mines for almost 20 years

>>714123458 (OP)
>>714124142
>>714124549
>>714124872
>>>>>hero makes a last ditch attempt to save the world with his friends
>>>>>villain betrays the hero
>>>>>public realizes that the villain is evil
>>>>>using this new found power of friendship and public adoration, the hero comes back stronger than ever and saves the world
>>>>>What's your favorite video game with this trope?
Checkmate

>>714132498
its not really exhausting more like its impossible for him to deal with EU law without hiring lawyers which costs money which he doesnt have

>>714131551
So we either stop killing games or start killing studios if this goes through.
Preferably both

>>714132636
wait what the fuck? is that real?

>>714131551
>dude they can't make an offline mode
>they just can't ok there is literally no way for them to do this the only other option is for them to not make online games

>>714129560
i play old games farrrrrr more than new games, and most people i meet my age do the same.

>>714132498
>game dungeon and freeman's mind
His production pipeline is really bad, no qualms there. Specifically for Freeman's Mind he just sits there staring at the footage until he thinks of something to say. I'd go mad too.
>once a month stream
I don't know why he stills does those, they're not fun if he's not having fun doing them.
He should at least shift them so he's playing retro games or something instead of just sitting in dead silence staring at not-quite-the-camera going "umm, yeah, so in regards to what kind of toffee apple I like" like nobody cares man, don't do Q&As if you don't want to do a Q&A play some Dungeon Siege or something.

Thor won

>>714132267
>There are actual dozens of physical servers required for one player to play the game
Well then your studio can get ass fucked by the law for coming up with such a ridiculous system

>>714132901
what did he win?

Is Ross's wife hot?

>>714123458 (OP)
What happened now? Last thing I heard about is that Pirate Software unironically raped this guy.

>>714133030
Quality bait right here.

>>714133067
I'm serious, I don't follow e-celebs (I'm an adult). I get my news from /v/.

>>714133134
What did /v/ tell you?

>>714132267
Well then it sounds like this hypothetical legislation would force developers to make more streamlined server architecture if they didn't want to shoot themselves in the foot later down the line.
I'm not pretending that this would cost the developers nothing, but frankly, I don't give a shit. I don't think it's an unreasonable thing to ask that online only games don't eventually become unplayable. Better yet, why not STOP MAKING ONLINE ONLY GAMES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>714132937
Retard of the year award

The corpo cock suckers degenerate from posting CSAM to images of cocks to... greentext spam?
68% btw, and another 1m+ YouTuber got on the bandwagon, so expect another bump.
:)

>>714133179
That Pirated Software raped this Ross guy and destroyed his movement, and that pirate software is a well known and liked individual that works for Blizzard.

>>714132901
Days hasn't even started properly and we're already at +3.5k.
It's over for mr puberty.

>>714132984
you tell me

>>714123458 (OP)
Ross screwed up by not addressing this a year ago when pirate first posted the video, so even if you youtubed that shit pirates clip was the most recent/relevant thing for a long period of time.
Plus
>"huh, this pirate guy talk good, wears glasses and has a deep authoritative voice, he most be correct"
>"this ross guy is fuggly eww"

>>714124437
https://voca.ro/1hnIzrwX1v92

>>714133318
Why believe anything you read on 4chan?

>>714133420
nice ESL fag lol

>>714133030
Ross released a video that exposed piratesoftware for misinforming everyone about the campaign. Then moistcritical reacted to it and ripped piratesoftware a new one. now everyone makes fun of piratesoftware and the campaign got rolling again because of the drama

>>714132924
>>714133191
This form is "streamlined" by siloing and specializing tasks across devices suited for performing them at scale. If you wanted to simplify on a per player logical level, condensing things into fewer servers, those servers would be way less performant at any given task - meaning that you'd need more servers for the same amount of players, significantly increasing the cost of running the game as-is.
The proposed solution of 'just make it work' is tantamount to saying fuck any studio/dev who wants to make any games that are functionally MMOs. I don't like my employer either so I'm also fine with this, GDPR already makes our lives difficult, the EU is on the right track

>>714133415
It wouldn't have done pre-WoW incident and grooming allegations, it took multiple exposures for PirateSoftware's cred to actually start crumbling.

You notice now it's not just other Youtubers who are fine with covering this now, industry gamedevs and scene dudes are talking about it, and it's really rare for either of those to criticize youtubers publicly because they don't like the attention.

>>714132267
The fun part is, you have no obligation to hand a functional server structure over to anyone. Only release the code so anyone motivated enough to do so, can. It's literally just putting your online-related code on github as a Public repo and going "no longer my problem".

>>714131551
Sounds good

Either it works and the industry confirms to live service and always online games getting offline modes; or it leads to live service and always online games not getting made anymore

either way we win

>>714132267
Why would you need dozens of physical servers instead of just running things through Docker or similar on a beefy CPU?
I'll admit to knowing nothing about backend, but isn't heaviness of backend not from the actual software that runs on it at idle without anyone connected, but rather how many people it has to connect to and handle at once?

>>714133731
Anyone who thinks this is a business threat is an idiot, Doom's source code has been public for 30 years and Bethesda still sells that shit on every platform no problem.

>>714124142
>>>>>hero makes a last ditch attempt to save the world with his friends
>>>>>villain betrays the hero
>>>>>public realizes that the villain is evil
>>>>>using this new found power of friendship and public adoration, the hero comes back stronger than ever and saves the world
>>>>>What's your favorite video game with this trope?
>check mate

>>714133628
>The proposed solution of 'just make it work' is tantamount to saying fuck any studio/dev who wants to make any games that are functionally MMOs
https://youtu.be/HIfRLujXtUo?t=2235

>>714133628
Too bad. Sometimes you have a brilliant idea and it falls on it's face. That's business. You can comply or pay the toll. Your workload is not my problem

>>714133463
Why would 4chan lie? What's the benefit of lying? Nothing.

>>714132267
You can’t figure out a cloud configuration that will let you do that? Obviously it isn’t feasible for where you are in the project, but consider future live service games you develop: why wouldn’t you be able to do everything on the cloud? Other games have made it work surely

>>714129560
Brother, if it weren't for Jagex' jewish hands, I'd still be playing Runescape private servers where it has one world and everyone has to compete for resources. Who PRS06 /v/ cartel here?

>>714123458 (OP)
None whiter.

>>>>>>hero makes a last ditch attempt to save the world with his friends
>>>>>>villain betrays the hero
>>>>>>public realizes that the villain is evil
>>>>>>using this new found power of friendship and public adoration, the hero comes back stronger than ever and saves the world

>>714131268
It's a european initiative, pandering to english speakers on youtube means nothing

>>714133778
So, multi-answer here. On a logical level, yeah containers are essentially 'the future' for running services, and those mean you're not really worried about the physical hardware that it's running on. But on the other hand, containers are relatively new in the technology space, not everything is running on them, and orchestration and management, as well as running the fleet backing it is still a relatively hard to acquire skill, personnel wise.
The other part is specialization - some stuff is written very specifically to take advantage of certain hardware capability, like running one database with the understanding that queries to it will be answered within a certain time threshold, while another one is non-blocking calls that could be run on spinners. Or certain processes needing high frequency CPU speed, while others just need core count.

>>714133731
That's the other part, say a critical part of your game's server functionality is shared across multiple games that you make - being required to throw that out there at end of life means that you've essentially compromised that particular part of some other game you still run.

>>714134028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgQmrOpplzw

How is Ross able to do all of this shit he’s clearly an American? Don’t tell me this guy became a citizen of an EU country just to do this

>>714134307
hes lived in europe for like 10 years

>>714124620
You get a dvd from 2005 and put it in a dvd player. It plays the movie.
You get a game from 2015 and put it in its game player. It does not play the game because the authentication servers no longer exist.

This is bullshit

>>714134307
he's making videos about it and some eu people took note and made the petition

>>714133546
Drama seems to always be the correct answer to make a change. This is how Anita won the culture war against us btw.

>>714132786
i can't wait until you get what you deserve, i will be here drinking your tears and telling you i told you so, retard

>>714134059
What do you think the cloud is made out of? You're just renting someone else's physical servers and usually paying a shitload more to do it. It's useful for temporary needs like population spikes and is definitely a part of a good architecture but is not cost-viable to just live there.

>>714124620
normalfags buy live-service ubislop and then act shocked and angry when the game shuts down and is no longer accessible

>>714134541
go ahead and explain why making offline modes is literally impossible.

>>714134252
Good answer, thanks. It seems to me like this is nothing insurmountable, and would likely improve game networking if more experienced and skilled people were brought in to develop the backend. Not dissimilar to how GDPR managed to improve data privacy, handling and security of services all over the world.
Worth also considering that if this goes through, it's likely to only happen in like 2028 or something and isn't going to be retroactive. I think that's more than enough time to adapt. Live services isn't going to disappear because it's just too profitable, so they'll keep being made, and the world will keep turning.

>>714134307
He's not an organiser, other EU lawyers represent the initiative and will speak to Parliament if it passes.

>>714130806
You don't want to be called saar papa by your lil street shittar?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-RaQZPzhqU
new nuke just dropped

>>714134181
fucking based ted

You think when it gets close to finishing we'll get to see more devs openly support this? It's a slow trickle of freelance or minor roles but it's starting to happen.

>>714135212
I can't even begin to understand the argument here.

>>714135112
If it's a girl sure, It's hard out there for the guys though. He'd have to luck out genetically and I'll be honest I'm not bringing a strong hand myself.

>>714135212
>there should be no regulations because niggers
i wonder if these people apply the same logic to food or dangerous shit like lead

>>714135079
It's definitely not impossible to overcome, especially if you know you need to design for it from the get-go. It's just more of a challenge than I think the petition maker or lawmakers would really grasp, and there's a lot of room for tech-jargon to convince someone that it's an "unreasonable burden" or some legal nonsense and have some sort of exceptions put in for live service games that would let them dodge requirements.
>improve game networking if more experienced and skilled people were brought in to develop the backend
We (and I mean that to include the entire suite of people involved in live service) are really incompetent. Like getting skilled people and listening to them doesn't seem feasible.

>>714135157
My favourite arc is actual developers shitting on Thor's criticism.

>>714135731
>is actual developers shitting on Thor's criticism.
link? Never seen a single dev side with Ross the Moss.

>>714135970
it must suck being blind but still compelled to post on 4chan

>>714129560
dawg we live in the age of games getting shut down within months or weeks of their release
how often do you play your NEW games?

Was it the EU or Australia that forced Valve to give in and provide refunds? I can't remember.

>>714136104
Australia.

>>714131551
>it causes all major publishers to flee the eurozone and never publish any games in that region ever again
They said this about refunds too btw

>>714135970
So other than Running with scissors that supported this well before the Pirate software drama, here are some ones that have shown up:
>>714135157 (Worked on Helldivers 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zblBt9XzWoo (Worked on WoW and Warcraft III)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIZLyap0iNU (Indie developer)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5F5POclWJg (Dunno about this one, it's one that just popped up on my recommendeds)

>>714131551
This would be so fucking trivial to implement that sales of a single country aren't worth dropping over just doing it

>>714135157
did this guy work on helldivers or what

>>714135591
Apoo-anon's future son

>>714135064
never said it was, you strawmanning retard, this is why you niggers are so dumb, you're illiterate and you can't understand shit, learn english before posting here

>>714135970
Here's the biggest example: An actual ex-Blizz dev and not just a QA monkey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zblBt9XzWoo
https://www.mobygames.com/person/20708/david-kristofer-fried/

>>714136187
that's good for them, but i didn't.

>>714135970
This guy worked in Blizzard: https://youtu.be/zblBt9XzWoo?si=vvCE-nHpy9R3duZ5

>>714136353
yeah, you most of all people would know best about such things, and you are absolutely central to the decision making for such things at every and all corporation, games are saved
fucking retarded nigger

Thor is an actual dick head

>>714136690
Are you?

>>714136703
He fucks animals. I hope he gets better aids and dies. We finally get one of the best chances at improving ONE thing for consumer rights, and that faggot derails it for us.

>>714136703
i miss roachposting

>>714136632
Not only did you, you're yet again using all the same arguments. As it so turns out none of these things actually turn away publishers because the loss of the entire EU is actually a lot more substantial than just EU sales. Implementing offline modes or releasing a wrapper for a server SDK that has a readme that goes "Put your server IP here, put your port here, click 'run' and you're all set, make sure you have al ot of RAM for this" is literally not worth losing anywhere from a quarter to a third of your sales base over, and if someone is telling you it is - I got a bridge to sell you.

>>714136690
Stfu ass rapist. Companies have offline builds to test, debug, as well as local builds for experimentation. This isn't impossible.

>>714136703
Jason, his name is Jason

>>714136959
still never said it was, strawmanning ESL retard

>>714137043
You act like it does. You think somehow it's so impossible that publishers will simply give up the entirety of the EU instead of use the tools they already have made and use internally specifically for the purpose of things stated in the inititative.

>>714136104
EU forced apple to fucking kneel so they can definitely do this

>>714136690
>Release the server file and tweak it to not phone to a central server
How fucking hard do you think this is

>>714137043
So what did you say?
>>714136690

Thor won

>>714136984
X
Shawn! Shaaaawn!

>>714137184
Thor may have won for now.....but we're in deathly hallows part 2 and harry is currently fighting voldemort...
sign the petition

>>714137118
no, i don't act like it IS, strawmanning ESL retard, you're just strawmanning and an ESL retard, try learning english first, and then work on formal logic

>>714131551
>it causes all major publishers to flee the eurozone and never publish any games in that region ever again
If Apple didn't pull out over USB-C, publishers won't pull out over offline modes.

>>714137154
it's not about it being "hard" (as perceived by a retard, you) you can stop being a retard at any point
well, actually you probably can't, you will most likely always be a retard

>>714136690
>Open c# file.
>go to reference sheet
>delete line that makes a call to authenticate to server
Wow so hard.

>>714137327
Erm, everyone knows the basic laws of economics, chud. If you remove the supply, the demand disappears. Insane behaviour dude. Unhinged.

>>714137294
You're literally an angry ESL who thinks acting all aloof with all lowercase doesn't hide how blue in the face with rage you are. You said it yourself: You think the publishers will pull out of the EU. This means you believe they see that as a more likely possibility than following the legislature of the initiative. Given how simply the legislature is, that means they'd have to see it as plainly impossible. if you don't want to take responsibility for your words, maybe stick to whatever Indian subforum you wandered in from.

>>714137327
apple isn't a games publisher, and being forced to give up their meme proprietary port is nowhere near the same level as this

>get 1 million votes
>turns out PirateShitware was botting it all along
>Get rejected

>>714137435
keep pushing the goalposts, you're fooling no one
it'll get enough signatures, publishers will bend the knee, and consumers will have rights regarding video games

>>714124437
This dude fucked his ferret.

>>714135212
>more regulation is bad because [euro governments got rid of regulations that prevented boats of blacks coming into their countries]
he basically contradicted himself

>>714136516
How is it more profitable to leave the market entirely than to spend the money on offline modes?

>>714137435
>being forced to give up their meme proprietary port is nowhere near the same level as this
You're right, this is actually far more money they risk losing by pulling out. So clearly they're going to comply! Thank you for politely conceding your point.

>>714137481
>furfag gets executed in Brussels

>>714137435
Apple has an app store and gets buttfucked by the digital markets act right now and still isn't pulling out of the EU

>>714137481
You joke but there are niggers on his server who have admitted to using fake IDs to sign to get it shut down, which is amazing to just admit to given that's a huge crime.

>>714137370
Then what is it about? Why would you, as a developer, miss out on entire fucking continent because they're making you spend corporate pocket change on not complete destroying a product you no longer want to sell?
Even as a pure financial calculation it's either minus the entire continent worth of money or minus paying the one dude to fix your shit

>>714137435
No one is demanding Tumblr purple hair dev to release their garbage unprofessional poorly documented spaghetti code. All we're asking is for them to not destroy the game because they're too cheap to continue paying the .25 cents for server hosting.

>>714137416
now you're projecting on top of strawmanning
it's not "a likely possibility" it is a guarantee
and for the last time "impossibility" isn't the issue nor did i ever say it was, you are strawmanning on cooldown, stop and read and don't interject your own retardation into it this time, ESL retard
though, i understand that being a sudaca retard as you are and because you think in spanish, you have less functional vocabulary and cannot even describe certain concepts let alone things in your native language because it has no facilitation of such things, because spanish is such a niggerbrained retard arabic-descended bug-language, making advanced concepts literally impossible for you to ever understand on a fundamental level

>>714129560
I only play old games. I haven't even bought a game from this year yet.

>>714137487
you're the nigger trying to move goalposts by bringing up apple first, dumb projecting fuck, it has notning to do with this shit, triple omega giga retard

>>714132267
I fail to see how that's my problem though.

>>714137538
didn't say it was about profit either, you retards are just incapable of inserting your own retardation into things, shut the fuck up for two seconds and read

>>714123458 (OP)
>hero accurately deacribes to villain that services can't be owned
I like this vidya trope

>>714137774
Explain then. Why will they pull out?

>>714137774
>Accuses people of projecting while doing exactly that multiple times
You being a mealy-mouthed faggot who spends more time on not actually elaborating on your contrarian non-points and going "Well no nuh uh nuh uh nuh uh!!!!" like an Indian child isn't doing anything other than embarrass you. If you think it's a guarantee they'll pull out, that explicitly means you believe that they see it as impossible from some standpoint or another. If you literally can't even take responsibility for your own words, then I can tell you right now that's a glaring sign you are in fact a streetshitter who doesn't believe in anything he's writing and is just making up contrarian disagreements for attention.

>>714137416
>acting all aloof with all lowercase doesn't hide how blue in the face with rage you are
i've seen a lot of anons say this but i don't see why you think that's "the point"
it's just a lazy habit, it doesn't signal anything, let alone an emotional state like nonchalantness or whatever
besides, in [current year] you would think that all-caps would start being a badge of honor, because then at least you know you are probably talking to a tiktok zoomer rather than a chatbot or mobilefag with autocapitalization and punctuation

>>714137891
Ok then why would they give up all of that money?

>>714137639
because of intellectual property rights

>>714129560
Let's see
One of them is 20 years old
The other is 25 years old
Another is 13 years old
And the newest I'm playing is 7 years old.
And I just finished another 25 year old slut

>>714137839
>notning
ESL spotted, post disregarded. Goodbye subcontinental spic nigger!!!!!

>>714137952
*no-caps

>>714135356
a thread got moved from /v/ to /pol/
/pol/tard proceeds to have a /pol/ moment

>>714137990
Oh you're that faggot pedophile who keeps spamming infographics on X about how he hates government legislation but also wants the government to help abolish IP rights.

>>714135606
i hope these people apply the same logic to food so they would starve to death and make this website a better placec

>>714138032
>a thread got moved from /v/ to /pol/
Yeah, I was there, it was hilarious.
>umm, this thing about killing video games? Clearly belongs on /pol/

>>714137650
yeah it's just so simple, and ejew legislation is just so simple and never fucks anything up ever
i don't know why you retards are arguing, i'm on your side, i hope it becomes a thing, i just want it for different reasons than you do, which is not something you can even argue over

>>714137990
How
There are tons of completely decentralised online games and not a single developer has lost the ownership of their IP

>>714132786
>MMO brain rot
reminder there have been games with MMO elements that have been offline and they done just fine companies are just lazy and like he points out what ever makes more profit it's the go too.

>>714137990
What does releasing server binaries have to do with IP rights?

>>714137936
blah blah blah, stick to sucking cock, spic

>>714137850

unironically if a company making some expensive game somehow doesn't consider this when releasing in a game in a EU it deserves to fail
It only applies to new games being made after it passes. And even then, games in development are probably exempt because it's too late to save them. It's meant to save games 5-10 years later down the line. All the current big MMOs don't have to do shit. So you have time to consider your backend server infrastructure and work with services that would make it EU compliant.
God forbid a company has to comply and work with a law to make sure their game is compliant and consumers are able to play it after they drop support.

>>714138252
You already outed yourself in >>714137839 favelanigger quit projecting!!!!!

>>714125979
>Libertarians
Makes no sense for them to oppose skg

>>714138076
>literally who
nah nigger retard, i don't give a fuck about intellectual property rights, but corporations do, very very VERY fucking much, absolute niggerbrained retard

>>714138210
ff14

>>714132267
I never understood this
Bug name RPGs with large worlds have no issue being played offline
What makes live service games so special that they cant just as easily package it up for offline mode?
The whole argument is retarded solely because we already have had offline only games that are as complex if not more complex then live service slop, online games with server owners not affiliated with the dev/publisher. The only thing tied to live service slop is microtransactions and is the sole reason publishers dont want SKG to be a thing

>>714138076
>no don't apply narrow legislation
>repeal all of IP law

>>714129560
mashed
micromachines
marioparty 1 and 2
quake
quake 2
resident evil 1 and 2
unreal tournament 2004
doom 1&2
starwars episode 1 racer
f-zero X & GX
project gotham 4
darksouls 1&2
xcom ufo defense
XCOM enemy unkown
XCOM 2
Left 4 dead 2

all get played regularly
if any of those got the crew'ed i'd be fucking mad

don't give them the opportunity to do so

>>714138203
and what mass sweeping legislation was involved in making those decentralized games? how many of those rights holders are even around anymore? care to list them out for me?

>>714138196
>hurr durr so hard to release our offline builds that we use for testing
>hurr durr it's so hard to commit out logic that makes external calls to authenticate
Do you work in game dev you illerate software queer

>>714138210
>Offline MMO
?

>>714138076
>cunnyfederacy

>One of the main argument is "Servers are sooo complex now that rely on third party middleware and AWS shit, so it won't be possible to hand it over"
Then why is it that every so often a game is revived because of some autistic slav that has $20 to their name?
Is your developer team so bad that Ivan can shit out a server without relying on middleware but you can't?

>>714138298
They believe the free market above all else and are against any sort of regulation. It makes perfect sense why they'd be against SKG

>>714138248
those binaries ARE their IP, you fucking retard

STOP KILLING GAMES!

>>714132267
Anon, through just scraps of source code leaks and basic comments from the devs people have built entire new private server infrastructures for live service games far more complex than whatever your dev team has squatted out hot onto someone's plate likely using a very well documented very public engine like UE. Just off the top of my head:
>City of Heroes SCORE (Now like 6 new ones entirely)
>HorizonXI for FF11
>TurtleWoW
>PSO Ephinea
The people who can and want to run private servers are not people who are going to be daunted by "complexity." If two to three hobbyist autists can figure out mangled, leaked source code then an actually competent developer team would know what documentation to safely release without causing any headache.

>>714138447
>still strawmanning like a retsrded nigger
guess what nigger retard, i never said it was "hard", you inserted that retardation from yourself

>>714138076
>pedophile communist
Lmao what a life

>>714138549
selling something doesn't mean that you lose the IP you stupid nigger

>>714138337
It's because their entire stack is fucked. Modern game devs can't figure anything out. They can't optimize their code. They can't write good code. No wonder they're having heart attack from this initiative.

>>714138421
Why don't you stop being a namby pamby "just asking" fag and say where this line of questioning is going

>>714135356
>>714135606
>>714137520
I'll let (You) determine what they meant by this. Its a bit of a mess.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/509150877

>>714138663
>pedophile communist
The term is "French," get it right.

if you defend IPs, you are a low cow

>this whole thing is only picking up steam because of eceleb drama
the absolute state of society

>>714138549
Yeah that's why idTech and Bethesda don't have the rights to Doom- Oh wait.

TGD (Total Game Death)

>>714132770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtXby3twMmI

>>714138549
The game is their IP but they had no problem releasing it

And yet you nigs have done nothing to stop Pirate Software's rise to power. His game is selling millions and his streams are more popular than ever.

You lost.

>>714138671
didn't say they would lose the IP, strawmanning ESL nigger, stop replying if you aren't going to read and not insert your own retardation

>>714138689
>nothing
thought so

>>714138727
This is the real redpill behind this shitfest.

I'm incredibly sad that it took Critical Moist and other incels to create drama for the movement to pick up. Why is society like this? Nobody cared about Stop Killing Games until jewtubers said its time to care.

I hate how much of an influence they actually are.

>>714126438
his music is absolutely great but he is straight up a retard. funny, though.
t. norwegian

>>714138421
What does any of that have to do with not being a turbokike that torpedoes their products after you stop selling them?

>>714134252
>being required to throw that out there at end of life means that you've essentially compromised that particular part of some other game you still run.
So? What's more likely is that your work might have longevity.

>>714138778
How long did it take for them to teach those monkeys the dance?
Man Coldplay is such an amazing band and monkey handler

>>714138881
>Why is society like this?
because genuine autistics like ross who only care about being logical are a minority

>>714138493
level 1 lolbertarians are against it. libertarians who can think are pro SKG because they are anti IP law and want copyright enforced business models to be destroyed.

>>714123458 (OP)
Its kind of crazy how much this would have failed had the drama not happened

>>714138924
because turbokikes will stop selling their products to you altogether
now for you, the turbokikeslop enjoyer, this would be a bad thing, but for me, the turbokikeslop hater, this would be a good thing

>>714138808
Then what's the fucking problem?

>>714138881
Ross made the mistake of using the crew as his main example instead of fifa

stop

>>714138867
Ok, so?
>>714139053
Why would they stop?

>>714139094
But the crew sold 16 million copies? ain't that good enough?

>>714138881
I still think it's a greypill. Yeah, it sucks that it isn't entirely principles based, but it is achieving something that is genuinely good and not the way that a utilitarian would say it's good.

>>714138993
>lolbertarian civil war
You love it.

>>714139061
the problem for you, is that corporations aren't going to just hand out their shit like that
however it's no problem for me, in fact it is less than a problem, it would be a massive boon

>>714139053
>You being able to play old games means the devs will never release new games
This in fact doesn't happen
Every single game falls off a cliff within a year

>>714137625
Screenshot it

>>714139246
>they wont do what makes them the most money because uh...they just won't

>>714139046
Plot twist:

PirateSoftware is actually on Ross's side.
All this drama is just a show that both secretly created to boost the campaign.

>>714139246
Why not?

>>714139234
It's like watching tankies and soc-dems fight.

>>714139356
The real plot twist is that pirate software is a plant, he worked for Diablo 3, the always online game.

>>714139356

Just 0.08% more...

>>714138993
>libertarians who can think

>>714139276
you can't see the forest for the trees, but that's typical of you yurocuckistani retards, i can't fault you for being retarded, you were born that way

>Tim Sweeney is... LE RETARDED for saying that we should use the government to make macOS and Windows less shit, the right way to make that happen is to support Ganoo/Troonix
>Anyway, can you sign my petition Start Killing Goys so we can use the government live service goyslop less shit. If you live outside yurop, you need to have personally funded the development of cancerous garbage to be able to help...

>>714139527
stop being a polchud

>>714139494
What the fuck are you on about
Normies chase the new and shiny
You're not keeping them by letting them play without asking you because they've already moved on

>>714139193
>the crew sold 16 million copies
Source?

>>714139527
Who are you quothing sister?

>>714139639
The Troonix shills that support SKG that got mad at Tim Sweeney for his "using Linux is like moving to Canada" quote.

>>714139605
They're free to decide for themselves how they want to provide their service.

>>714138643
Anon, shit has gotten a lot more complex on the backend since any of those things were current. Vanilla WoW had realms on single blades. Again, there's nothing impossible here, but it's a non-trivial challenge beyond what some people have said is
>just comment out the part where it tries to auth

>If two to three hobbyist autists can figure out mangled, leaked source code then an actually competent developer team would know what documentation to safely release without causing any headache.
Those hobbyists are probably more talented/passionate than the devs. GaaS/MMOs, as an industry, is filled with largely incompetent, burnt out husks. Your faith in big devs to actually have that shit documented is misplaced.

>>714139527
>Tim Sweeney is retarded
Yes, but what does it have to do with SKG?

>>714139713
>The Troonix shills that support SKG that got mad at Tim Sweene
Can you point them out?

damn, Italy finally brings in numbers

>>714139356
It's possible. The way he spendmocked Ross' video was so comically evil, like an anime villain or something. Almost like he asked for dramatubers to cover him.

>>714139527
>Fundamentally restructuring an operating system is anywhere near comparable to just fucking releasing your server shit
Timmy doesn't want to improve windows
He hates Linux because valve supports it and he's permanently seething and contrarian about it

>>714139753
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/04/stop-killing-games-is-a-new-campaign-to-stop-developers-making-games-unplayable/
I'm sure some of your ilk that shills this garbage also use Loonix.

>>714139724
>>714139713

>>714139305

>>714139797
>Still bottom of per capita, fucking greece and romania are beating them
Step it up pastaniggers.

>>714139838
So none of them in this thread?
Bummer

>>714138076
I mean they're based and correct, but we're never going to abolish copyright law and shortening copyright terms also has little to do with the initiative.

>>714139527
I actually agree with the core of Sweeny's suggestions, the issue is he is a massive faggot who takes Microsoft money and his methods involve actually unporting games from other operating systems.

>>714139527
Ok Timmy, how does outright killing Linux support help Windows?

>>714139871
>>714139835

>>714139835
>using the government is wrong, except when I think it suits me
Least mentally challenged Troonix shill.

>>714123458 (OP)
He should shave it off
Would look so much better bald

>>714139904
I miss native Rocket League...

>>714139848
report it to discord, maybe they kill the server

>>714139963
That guy got mad at Tim? Can you back that up?

>>714140004
Stop LARPing, nobody wants Loonix binaries.
Neither Valve, nor the guys who create Proton.
https://blog.hiler.eu/win32-the-only-stable-abi/
Ethan Lee and Ryan C. Gordon got fucked the most thanks to Proton.

>>714139848
>proof of a call for ballot box stuffing
Just sent pics to ECI :)

>>714139963
>stop killing games will result in a corporation losing control
>forcing microsoft to clean shit up will result in improving a corporation
fuck off
windows deserves to kill itself

Most of us don't agree with this bald fuck ross right? I mean compare the looks of each side, one is a handsome golden hair GOD and the other looks like a fucking ghoul

>>714139848
Absolutely fucking delusional posts outside of the highlighted ones.

>>714140140
>forcing microsoft to clean shit up will result in improving a corporation
And losing control in the process. By the way, it's really amusing that Mac also got mentioned, but you ignored completely. I wonder why... definitely not because your an Apple shill, right?

>>714139720
All of the games I listed are on custom, proprietary systems that have never had full source code leaks. Two of them are Japanese games from decades ago meaning their source codebases are so rich in spaghetti it looks like an Italian's large intestine. They predate modern API systems and GitHub and super-highspeed wired just a hair under terabit internet and had netcode that still uses the term "talk" for wireless connections. There were no standards of documentation or even syntax for these fucking aberrations. They are, undoubtedly, harder to turn offline or privatize.
Whatever live-service slop you're making is fundamentally less complex due to the abundance of documentation and publicly known third party materials meaning even a sub-techliterate retard would be able to redeploy based on the server code you provide. Hell I bet your backend doesn't even have a distinctly inhouse compiling tool, I bet that shit's by majority third party too, just with some basic relevant-to-the-game changes hacked on. And all of it is designed for new hires to grasp and work with within a week of starting. There is no excuse you could make here.

Signature rate per day is increasing again.

Thank you moldman.

>>714140289
I feel like you're searching for an appeal to authority here, and I don't care to make it obvious which company I work for to give it to you. Sorry.

>>714140225
because apple is itrelevant to me as I'm neither a woman nor a homosexual and they're beyond fixing after abandoning x86
Microsoft doesn't deserve redemption after a decade of bad decisions that started by killing 7 in its prime
You're insisting on trying to save a braindead 20 year old family dog instead of letting it pass on

>>714139720
You are bad at your job. It should be and probably already is is one command to run the entire stack on a local developer machine for testing purposes.

>>714140443
Then why bring up that you work a game dev corp, pussy.

>>714140518
>You're insisting on trying to save a braindead 20 year old family dog instead of letting it pass on
That also applies to the completely forgettable goyslop you're trying to save with this gay initiative, funny, isn't it? Those games certainly don't die because they were at its players peak.

Why does the game industry get to rely on bad coding practices?
At least with other fields, the problem is legacy code that refuses to die, not new problems caused by new stack development.

>>714140426
Italy finally started to catch up

>>714140596
Because Tumblr purple hair dev is lazy and spends its time crying on Twitter about evil gamers.

>>714140443
I'm not interested in what live service game you work on because the modern ones are all built on the same very narrow field of systems because they're affordable, rich in documentation, and have engineers who are paid on the clock to provide insight and support.
My point is there is nothing "complex" about whichever flavor of either mobile game, PUBG clone, or Overwatch clone you guys make that is too complex to privatize.
And it's bold of you to accuse me of appeal to authority when you opened with things like "there are actual dozens of physical servers required for one player to play the game as intended" which only works as an argument on people who don't know what the fuck a datacenter is. You guys do not have access to some secret proprietary alternative to AWS or Azure or Google Cloud. You're using one of the three - and that's not a slight against it, it's affordable and it works, but do not pretend that's somehow hard to release the source code for how your game interacts with it or dedicating two guys who mostly spend their time rotating rocks on maps to plugging numbers for where the game phones home for an offline version.

There is, as I said, no excuse you could make here.

>>714140596
Game devs in engineering roles are underpaid compared to big tech, so high skill workers don't care to work in the industry. Scroll up and read the posts by that one live service dev, he admits this.

>>714140596
Game dev engineering is basically chattel slavery. You get paid like shit regardless of quality of work. The guys who were doing technological marvels were usually making money elsewhere and just incidentally put their shit in game dev because they knew it on hand (The fast inverse square root in Quake's rendering was written by a guy who initially used it for a fluid dynamics simulation for a university that was paying him MUCH more money than Id would be paying him).

The ultimate goal of Start Killing Goys is to make DRM'd and live-service games more palatable by promising you that you'll be able to play them forever, and thus feeling no need to stop funding that cancer.

>>714140594
Maybe you should've had a stop killing windows initiative a decade ago then?
Windows is an example of what happens when you let a corpo do whatever they want
The action required to stop killing games is simple to understand, release the fucking server files
Meanwhile how do you fix windows without an arbitrary wish list?

>>714132267
You are shit at your job. It should be and probably already is just one command to run the entire stack on a local developer machine for testing purposes.

>>714138076
>Throw away the chance to get the EU on your side and come in naked instead
Moronic plan, what the fuck is this?

>>714137625
i find it funny that jason bans, blocks and deletes comments of people at the speed of light for disagreeing with him, yet he allows things like this to continue on this discord. does he want to be complicit?

>>714131551
>the video juego industry will die in your lifetime

>>714140759
>>714140879
So it's a case of actual devs being underpaid despite ballooning game budgets?

>>714140890
The same way that Apple got forced to kneel after they tried to defraud the courts.
https://pluralistic.net/2025/05/01/its-not-the-crime/#its-the-coverup
Alternatively, forcing Microsoft to do what AT&T did with UNIX.

>>714140961
Most of the money goes into marketing, licensing, upper management, and PLURALITIES of low-skill workers. Why pay one really fucking good engineer good money when he's limited to the scheduling and ability of one man and you need this game out by Christmas? Hire 20 Forrest Gump-tier programmers that in total go at approximately 80% his minimum rate and you'll get the same amount of work done in half the time at the price of it being about a third the quality, and you can get away with that because video games are a consumer business meaning you can just tell the consumers to buy better hardware.

>>714140961
>So it's a case of actual devs being underpaid despite ballooning game budgets?

>>714125246

>>714141089
So completely unrelated? How does some petty microtransaction squabble affect the usability of the os?
I'd rather see work being put into Linux so everyone can benefit for free rather than to bail out an incompetent corporation because of nostalgia

>>714141357
>you definitely cannot use the government to make operating systems that people actually use less shit, it's better to invest money in my free (if your time has no value) Troonix OS for servers
>you can use the government to preserve goyslop live service shit #1488, tho

Corporations good. Kill all games. Eliminate fun.

>>714141467
Normies use windows because it comes with prebuilts and laptops, not because it's good
Stop killing games involves telling corpos to go fuck themselves and release the server files , you either do the minimal amount of work or you get nothing
You meanwhile want the government to step in and use the taxpayer money to save the thing you grew up with instead of realising that everyone in that corpo fucking hates you and everything good about it is gone

>>714141758
>instead of realising that everyone in that corpo fucking hates you and everything good about it is gone
All of this applies to the gay shit you want to save, btw.
Your faggy panda OS isn't worthy of any improvement, btw.
It never had anything good to begin with.
Stop being a bitch, and act like it is entitled to anything.
Solaris was better in every single way.

>>714141963
>Stop being a bitch, and act like it is entitled to anything.
Good morning saar!

>>714142150
Linux will never be entitled to any contributions or support from third parties. Hope you enjoyed native Rocket League while it lasted.

>>714141963
Deranged microdick
Linux is getting better while windows is getting worse and it's funny that you admit it's gotten so bad you need government interference to do anything about it
10 years ago Linux wasn't even on the map for vidya
In 10 years proton will utterly embarrass Microsoft in every way
And you insist on helping out this incredibly vile and self destructive corpo out of some misguided affection because you refuse to learn a new os

>>714142247
So how's the weather in mumbai?

>>714123458 (OP)
I asked Koksal Baba about SKG
He told me it's based and he supports it.

I'm on board, bros!

>>714142295
>Linux is getting better
You guys have been saying this for the last 1488 years.

>In 10 years proton will utterly embarrass Microsoft in every way
Glad we agree that there's no reason to ever bother with native Linux ports.

>>714140742
I love the wild amount of assumptions you make. It really strengthens your argument that the entire architecture of every online game is definitely just
>where the game phones home for an offline version
And that every online game exists solely in one of three cloud providers.

>>714142346
I'm actually from Jalna.

Computers are tool that are meant to be used.
Windows is best because everything is native and it just works.
Meanwhile you have to emulate even fucking photoshop on linux.
Why the fuck would anyone gimp themselves by using an OS not meant for people who actually do things on a computer beyond shitposting and coding?
No legit user gives a shit about your cult. Keep crying on my shoulder linux trannies.

>Thread devolves into OS shitposting
Yeah ok.

>>714142687
>.The funny thing is, as soon as you tell me (and quite proudly, I might add) that you primarily run Linux, I already know a ton about you. I know that you have no artistic ability -- that you're not into full-stack or front-end dev (no photoshop), you're not a photographer (no lightroom), and you're not into video editing (no premiere). I know you're not a software entrepreneur, as you would have needed full-stack development for that. I know you're not into remote collaboration with Google Drive (and Dropbox support is being ended soon). I know you're not an iOS developer (no XCode), or mobile developer at all (which generally requires Photoshop). I know you haven't honed your UX/product sense. Even if you dual-boot, I know you're in pain and will probably lose a bunch of data one day and have no idea what happened. You see that? In your search for "freedom," you have boxed yourself in like a caged rat.

>>714142687
>>714142596
Why do brown turd worlders like windows so much?

>>714142447
>You
Maybe take your meds if you're seeing me as multiple people
Want it or not, 10 years ago 7 was still kicking and proton wasn't even a twinkle in Gabe's eye
Now we have endless blunders of 11 and valve gearing up for widespread Linux adoption with steam hardware
You're either stubborn or stupid

>>714142759
If there's a country that loves Loonix, that's India, where it's even more popular than macOS, going against the general trend in pretty much all of the first world.

>>714142818
Okay, okay, Linux will win. So, why do you need Epic's support so much, if it is inevitable?

>>714142894
Do you understand that I can tell that you're from some third world shithole because of your broken english?

>>714124620
No the line Denzel Washington's character in Philadelphia says is "Explain it to me like I'm a 6 year-old".

>>714143086
Doesn't change the point that Loonix is most popular in a third-world shithole than in the first world.

Funny number % has been reached.

>>714143158
Why should I take your opinion seriously if your skin is the same color as feces?

>>714142948
It's one thing to just ignore Linux but Timmy is so assmad he's outright bricking it
He's the one that needs support with his retarded business ideas propped up by Fortnite kid money
It it keeps going chinks will just oust him and axe his gay little lemonade stand

>>714126078
WTF why aren't people signing at 5am?!

>>714132786
>tries to conflate, on the fly, a game being killed (removed from service) to a game being dead (available but not played)
Why did people ever take what this guy says seriously?

>>714143249
My source is StatCounter, an Ireland-based website.
https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/india

WE DID IT
WE REACHED THE GOAL
YEEEEEEEAHHHHHHH 69%!!!!!

>>714143309
>He's the one that needs support with his retarded business ideas propped up by Fortnite kid money
Unlike Proton and other Linux shit Valve supports, that definitely is not funded by the giant casino known as Counter-Strike 2 (formerly Counter-Strike: Global Offensive).

BRUHS

I see we have Rockstar Games writers here...

>>714143448
nice

>>714143343
That's cool but why should I care what an 80 iq shitskin thinks?

>>714143448
Nice.

>>714143592
Because that's the kind of people that actually uses Linux on desktop. You don't see that in the first world.

>>714143432
Steam is a successful business even without those and it uses that money to pioneer an alternative to windows
Meanwhile Timmy's lemonade stand is a completely unprofitable flop that became a thing only because he was jealous of steam and thought he could get somewhere by being a cunt throwing money at devs

>>714143776
Completely true. So, why care about Timmy Epic if he's going to lose in the long run? Just wait.

Okay sharty being aginst it makes me automatically support it. I hope some of them try to fake signatures so they get arrested too

>>714143670
Your opinion doesn't matter, you're brown.

>>714143910
You seem to care an awful lot, tho, considering the amount of (You)s you've given me.

>>714130806
>son pops out
>"bloody benchod basterd bich where is my bottle i redeemed the bottle bloody bich"

>>714143963
Can you exchange 4chan posts for a better slum or something?

>>714144018
I just did, thanks for asking.

>>714143873
Because Timmy seething is funny
No one considering Linux thinks having access to his kidslop is a dealbreaker

>>714144278
Fair enough.

The last two threads about Pirate Software I opened someone posted CP. What the fuck is going on on /v/ these days?

>>714144370
People for some reason are really against this. Like, not just "this is shit" kinda way, but actively trying to get it deleted and word filtered.

>>714144370
You know SKG is in the right when jews are posting literal cheese pizza to get it banned

>>714125979
>treating people eho enjoy freedom and Libertarians as two seperate things
You have severe brain damage

>>714144432
The fuck? You'd think people would want as much consumer protection as possible.
Also those posts freaked me out. I know next to nothing about how computers actually work, but worried about those posts being remnants in my PC despite not clicking on them.

>>714144586
If you don't hover over it or click it, you're good. It only caches when that happens.

>>714144632
Cool, thanks. I don't even know if you can randomly get in trouble if you did, but glad to know that's how it works.

>>714132267
I don't care. Figure it out, it's your job.

>>714131551
>it causes all major publishers to flee the eurozone and never publish any games in that region ever again
Didn't work for Apple

>>714144370
Shitposters have become completely unhinged over the years.

>>714131551
>i'm going to laugh my ass off when it turns out that ferretman was right

You ain't never laughing, retard.

>>714131551
>>714136690
These are both Jason btw, also hey faggot.

>>714144370
piratesoftware hates this initiative, and his supporters are doing everything they can to undermine it. they also sign the campaign with made up names and fake IDs >>714139848

>>714144432
It's bad actors whose purpose is to demoralise the population by making them believe authorities can never ever make any good decisions, so by sopping SKG, they won't allow the EU the chance to prove they can help the people.

>>714144370
kikes

>Jannies deleting SKG threads
>Every other poster is a shill
>Someone posting literal CP even though 4chan bans all proxies and VPNs so this is likely going through clearnet or someone found a loophole moot didn't account for
This place has gone downhill for the 2nd or even 3rd time

>>714145119
>This place has gone downhill for the 2nd or even 3rd time
This year alone

>>714138493
libertarianism has 2 camps
1 "true" libertarianism, effectively ancap freedom for everyone but no protections for said freedoms because those would inherently become authoritarian
2 authoritarian libertarian, i.e. your freedoms are so important they must be protected at all costs even if that means a police state
1 would be against skg, 2 would be for

Watching the required daily minimum go down is heartening.

>>714145307
That thing is useless
Its gonna be some big push that causes it to go through, not daily signatures

>>714144581
They are, you fell for it again

>>714126989
Babel Media

>N-no! You killed my favorite bing bang wahoo!! Europe save me!!!!
You guys are pathetic. This is the least important thing to ever be legislated outside of trans seasame street in Iraq

>>714145337
don't be a hater man. you can't be sure it won't do a thing. if anything a lot of media attention is being brought to a previously ignored subject. you never know what waves likes that can cause.

>>714129560
I am playing two games that were originally KILLED by the devs, brought back by the fanbases. Battleforge, now know as Skylords Reborn, and Age of Empires Online, now know as Project Celeste

>>714139356
This isn't his first youtuber drama. He's been shown to be consistently this hostile whenever anything upsets him or his ideas are challenged. This is just genuine narcissistic hate from a man who can't emotionally handle disagreement.

>>714124620
They took this from you.

>>714145337
Statistically speaking, it helps represent the same thing. We're in the middle of a big boost now. You're right that it will probably need another one towards the end of July. That said, there could come a time where the required daily number will make it clear that victory is all but assured. That'll be pretty nice to see.

>>714138076
>this pipe dream scenario in my head is better so you should throw one of the only realistic chances to save video games down the drain and cry about it on twitter while achieving nothing instead
that's just dumb
i expected more from a cunnysseur

>>714126078
My job gives me access to a decently large database of people's names as well as their ID, which is all that's needed to sign afaik. Most of them elderly people that would never know their data is being used to stop killing games, and thanks to the outdated digital infrastructure of this country, it's likely that it'd be hard for the government to check if every signature is fake or spam. Or so I imagine.

I'm not gonna do what I'm implying here, I already signed and that's about as much as I'll do. I'm just curious what the actual practicality and consequences of it would be. Does the EU take their credential checking seriously for stuff like this? Would there be jail time or a fine for someone that did something like this? How easily can this system be exploited, if at all?

>>714129560
your argument is extremely flawed

>>714146363
I wouldn't know but I wouldn't risk it, bureaucracy and paper shuffling is the one thing the EU loves doing above everything else.

>>714137184
>>714137254
what did he win?

>>714124142
didn't quote the last line award

>>714138076
>Chances of legislating companies to support their games and not scam customers: 50%
>Chances of getting EU to repeal copyright law: 0%
These useful idiots is why the jews always win

Did anyone eat the entire ass?

>>714146474
No yeah it'd be a tremendous pain in the ass to even bother, it's just, I signed the petition and all it asked for was country of origin, name and surname, and for me to promise I was giving true info and hadn't already signed, like I was trying to enter a +18 site while being underaged or such.

So I'm like "wait, that's it?", feels kind of exploitable unless I'm missing something

>>714145000
>>714139848
He's a retard. making stuff up. There's no such thing as a "random ID." Each EU country has their own IDs and their own databases of those. When you sign the petition and input it, it compares THE NAME GIVEN with the ID NUMBER. If those two don't match, you get an error.

So unless he, by some miracle, just so happened to make up a name + make up an ID AND both were valid AND the ID fit the person, he's just LARPing.

>>714145119
>Jannies deleting SKG threads
no need for several skg threads at once
>or someone found a loophole
everyone knows about the loophole
it won't be patched up any time soon if ever

>>714146893
It would be exploitable, but I have no clue how in depth it would be when they do the final counts.

>>714146813
he keeps using that as an insult because hes hoping some faggot out there takes him up on that offer.
(also because its the most pg13 insult he can come up with)

>>714145276
Wouldn't 2 also be those who think the rights of corporations are more important?

>>714129560
mostly on emulator and pc. I keep going back to a lot of the same games though

>>714125246
Zach Hadel

>>714140879
>The guys who were doing technological marvels were usually making money elsewhere and just incidentally put their shit in game dev because they knew it on hand (The fast inverse square root in Quake's rendering was written by a guy who initially used it for a fluid dynamics simulation for a university that was paying him MUCH more money than Id would be paying him).
Complete bullshit, the guys who were doing technological marvels were working in the game industry and are now rich (John Carmack and Tim Sweeney for example)

>>714124142

>7k at 9 am
it's going to be a 35-40k day

>>714131512
https://voca.ro/1hnIzrwX1v92

>>714148385
exceptions dont make the rule anon. Carmack and Swiney got rich from engine licensing. COD ran on quake code for good long while.

>>714135731
my favourite is the guy who actually did work at blizzard.

>>714123458 (OP)
>>>/incel/

>>714149324
They got rich from making games
Anyone who makes successful games gets rich, that's the point
You don't get paid more doing research at a university

>>714148385
So... you are saying that 2 people out of millions, who have shown that they are not good at making games(jill of the jungle/peace maker or doom3/rage), who made nearly all their fortune not from games (unreal/quake engine). Are proof that skilled devs make money from deving?

The guys who are doing technological marvels might end up in the gaming industry. But they will 100% of the time pull out if given the opportunity. The pay for a skilled programmer the likes you are describing, ones that make technological marvels, is infinitely higher in non game jobs. Not even comparable. Banking, engineering, take a pick. Its going to make you as much if not more money than a decently successful game. And you won't have to hope for a runaway hit.

>>714149659
They were two examples you moron, there's many more
The game industry isn't a place for technological innovation at the moment, but when it was/is the people get paid well

>>714146813
>wanting to take a bite out of that rancid piece of fartmeat after he's just gaped himself with a garden ornament
That's 40+ years worth of HIV. You couldn't pay me to hit that with a rusty shovel.

should have picked a different videogame to rally your faggotry with
>the crew
srsly nigga?

also next time just don't buy live service slop you fucking retards, the only reason they keep churning that kind of shit out is because you fags keep falling for it

you know what really pisses me off? dedicated servers not being a thing anymore, it's mostly all company hosted for some fucking reason, yet I barely saw any pushback when they started pushing this out hardcore
quite the opposite, bet some of you troons were in the
>why do you care, you can play just fine :)
camp, and now we get what we fucking deserve

>>714149850
Good video games don't get shut down though, that was the best that had

>>714125460
>this is how Vance memes making fun of him will help Israel win

>>714137489

>>714129560
all the time, my pc is 10+ yrs old

>>714149850
>>714149876
>Implying the better option is perpetual bloat ala TF2

>>714129560
The last modern game that I played was one about dickwolves in spess. Otherwise I haven't touched the AAA space since Elden Rang. Old games are usually cheaper and have the potential for a backlog of mods to run through. Some easily being good enough to become expansions in their own right.

>>714125453
then stop buying slop that keeps pushing that shit
you niggas sleeping in the bed you made, now you're complaining and begging eu to save you

>>714127658
He is the most attractive person willing to put in the work.

Whats the problem with Luxembourg? Who even lives there?

>>714129560
More often than new ones

>>714129560
I replay Half Life at least once a year
Every few years I'll replay Caesar III and System Shock 2 (thank god for the remaster, that'll make it a lot easier)
Golden Sun I and II I must've beaten at least 10 times over the years as well
Killing Floor is still me and my friends go to "fuck around for fun" game

Man if only Brexit geezers weren’t subjected to propaganda I might have had a chance to sign the petition.

>>714137206

PewDiePie has just posted support for SKG

>>714151909
Oh fug :DDD

>>714151909
TOTAL ROACH DEATH

>>714151909
Hope they do a video on this but big W none the less.

>>714151909
this kills the roach

>>714131551
>American live service slop dies and we only get kino euro single player games
Talk about a win-win situation.

>It only got to about 9,000 yesterday near midday
>It's already nearly 10,000 at half past 10
LET'S FUCKING GO EUROANONS

>>714151909
This is already great on its own but if he made even a quick short video holy shit that would be so big.

why retards here keep talking about piratewho? are they gay? is it /v/ermin culture to talk about it?

>>714130806
Anon that is a fictional character

>>714151909
That's great. Hopefully he makes a video too. Even just a little one.

>>714151909
It's over xisters.......

>>714133415
He didn't address it because he was in talks with GOG, Heineken and politicians. He didn't want the drama to potentially fuck those talks over. Once the deals fell through, that's when he decided to make a video since he had nothing more to lose.

Jason "Thor" Hall is getting raped harder than his ferrets

>>714126078
It resets at 4-6pmish America time, and it's early in the morning over there.

>>714153014
He might tbqh. He did a video about deggogling recently. PewDiePie redemption arc is soemthing I wasn't prepared for.

>>714151909
>it's real
It's happening. Would be even better if he made a video but everything helps.

>>714125181
What is funny to me is that this is coming from the "everyone is beautiful" crowd. And the only thing they can think off attacking is someone's looks. No wonder the left is eating themselves.

>>714151909
Thor lost

I WANT TO PLAY "The Crew™© (2014)" BY Ubisoft®
>I WANT TO PLAY "The Crew™© (2014)" BY Ubisoft®
I WANT TO PLAY "The Crew™© (2014)" BY Ubisoft®
>I WANT TO PLAY "The Crew™© (2014)" BY Ubisoft®

NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW

>>714129560
This is literally all I play, I booted up TF2 as soon as I heard bots were beaten.

Communities will fix the old games and make them better, and I've recently beaten like 10 games on an emulator this year.

Also, just booted up Heroes of Might and Magic 3 for the first time and played 6 hours. GOG has a new option where you can 1-click install mods from their store page.

>>714153625
Yes, I do. It's supposedly a very good racing game. Ubisoft can make good games even to this day even though their 2000s-early 2010s peak of being one of the most innovative studios of all time is over.

>>714153642
I've been meaning to get into HoMM after getting into the regular Might and Magic games, you recommend 3?

>>714153625
>sharties are against this
Damn the victory will feel sweet.

>>714130664
>it's only morons who think it's sticking it to him or some 4D chess move.
Think how retarded the average person is and realize that half of the population is dumber than that.

>>714124620
people complaining about not being able to play concord anymore and literally thinking live service slop is high art that should be preserved forever
it's a redditoid movement for corporate cattle

>heh
>the gobermint sez u have to gib me that for free now ;)
>sure thing niggercattle, here you go!
>this sux tho...
>yeah it does! without back end support, anticheat, customer service, statistics tracking, matchmaking, and stability and performance patching, and ddos protection it does suck! you wanted it though, so have fun!
>...im gunna sue you... >:(
>for what niggercattle? its not ours anymore, end of service arrived so we pooped out an EU compliant standalone client. Don't like it? Go to your 'gobermint'.
> >:( we're gunna get u again...we're starting a new petition....

>>714153696
It's a great starter point, I never played any Heroes games or M&M before either aside from Song of Conquest and maybe 2 hours of Heroes 5 with the 5.5 mod. I hear 7 has a mod now as well. 4 is apparently decent. Sseth's videos are unironically pretty good for all this.

Some notes:
>Get Heroes 3 Defintiive/Complete/Whatever its called on GOG, NOT THE HD edition on Steam (HD does not have the two expansions or the map packs expansions (heroes chronicles), not moddable either, not fixable.

>Go get it on GOG or pirate it and download the Horn of the Abyss mod as well.

>If you wanna play campaign vanilla (not the Abyss mod campaigns, which are way harder and kinda sweaty, I believe), you need to download the campaign files and dump them in your maps folder, I think. The ones on some sites might be out of order by name if you load them in game, so you might end up playing some late-expansion mission first and get your ass kicked like I did despite it being labeled as "1." or whatever.

https://www.moddb.com/games/heroes-of-might-and-magic-3/downloads/heroes-of-might-and-magic-iii-campaign-files-corrected-naming

^I uploaded the correctly-named files on moddb since the one already on there is wrong. Heroes 3 works very well, holds up perfectly with the QoL fixes from the HD mod (which was rolled into the Horn of the Abyss mod, again, one click install on GOG). Would recommend. Solid strategy game.

>>714151909
>>714153905
>meanwhile yuropoor eceleb who I emailed whose entire channel is built around wholesome chungus persona in favor of game preservation still hasn't responded to me

homm3 isn't good
it's just a europoor rite of passage they become obsessed with

>>714124142
>soijak
Kill yourself

>>714154026
Neat, thanks anon.

>italians dont give a fuck
>but the fake pizza law has over half a million signatures from them only
shieeed
https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2024/000009_en

>>714149514
no they didnt. engine licensing allowed Carmack to spend his shekels on boondogles like Armadillo airspace. so did swiney.

>>714154026
Forgot to mention, Horn of the Abyss is a separate install, so if you want the QOL fixes, you need to either run software to extract your old campaign files from your HoMM3 install with separate tools, or download from the moddb link.

>>714153840
>Concord goes down, the community can now host its own matches
>People mod the fuck out of it for the memes
>All the girls get sexy as fuck
>All the guys look cool as fuck
>All the balance issues/game modes get fixed.
Why should I be against this?

>>714154142
>why should I be against a megastate telling developers what to do and potentially seizing intellectual property because I want to play a hecking video gamerino

>>714154278
no u don't get it every video game developer is a megacorporation who hates you and wants to exploit u...so we need the gobermint to fuck them up >:)

>>714154332
This but unironically. The past 12 years have shown that.

Surely all they would need to do to shut this case down is point out that larger relevant industries already do this and its legal for them.

>>714134252
>being required to throw that out there at end of life means that you've essentially compromised that particular part of some other game you still run.
a thing having its source code public does not make it insecure

>>714154142
In this Concord scenario, would people still be refunded for paying for the game? Or is it game over because it's still somewhat playable thanks to SKG?

>>714154278
>every video game developer is a megacorporation who hates you and wants to exploit u
Are you at the point of shilling, where you just say true statements and pretend they are false?

>>714154093
Lmao, even if they do father one million signatures, it's not gonna get anywhere because they need to gather signatures 7 member states. Fuck you shitalians, I won't sign it out of spite.

>>714137891
>you retards are just incapable of inserting your own retardation into things
So.... they're doing the right thing?

>>714154332
>every video game developer is a megacorporation who hates you and wants to exploit u
Are you at the point of shilling, where you just say true statements and pretend they are false?

corporate magnates don't even remember they're on the verge of bankruptcy, let alone their fans. Try not to be too finicky about them.

>>714154501
Nigger are you retarded? It's got 13 of the member states at their threshold, with Finland getting closer to 300% of their threshold every day.

>>714154530
its not true though you little faggot slave :)

>>714153793
>>>714153625 (You)
>>sharties are against this
>Damn the victory will feel sweet.

>>714154596
Finland is at 1.66%. The highest is Slovakia at 46.33%. Only Italy passed the threshold.

>>714129560
Silly question. Like only 15% of playtime of steam users is spent playing current year games.

>>714154473

>>714154596
dumb nigga, he is talking about the fake pizza initiative not SKG where italians alone have 1000%+ look at the fucking link first

>REMINDER
REMINDER
>REMINDER
REMINDER
All "statistics" about SKG are demotivational propaganda orchestrated by der ferret fucker to make create a sense of complacency among would-be supporters.

>>714154638
Give me an example of a non-megacorporation video game developer who would get fucked by SKG.

>>714154868
on the contrary, only megacorporations would suffer almost zero impact from increased game development and legal compliance testing measures because they can simply eat the cost or use an army of lawyers to bypass requirements

it's amazing to me that you don't understand this already, the only thing increased EU regulation ever does is hurt little guys and make it easier for megacorps to increase their market share

>>714155034
>no example
I rest my case, corposhill retard.

>>714155034
This is correct, forcing Apple to use USB-C was really harmful for anyone else.

every private sector industry with small scale businesses is harmed by EU bullshit, because over-regulation means enormously increased expenses on a per entity basis

>>714155114
apple usb-c was about punishing apple for tax evasion, they did not actually give a single shit about chargers

The rate keeps going up. Sign the fucking petition you fucking rat