>”Superman wont work because hes OP but hey I’ll gladly play another Goku, Dante or Kratos game!”
>”Superman is too good and pure to be a compelling hero but oh my look another Sonic, Mario or Kirby game!”
I’m sick of these hollow, irony-poisoned arguments just admit you hate the idea of a morally powerful and physically powerful Western hero getting the spotlight.

>Billionaire with head so far up his own ass he thinks he's the good guy
>Cyborg with heart of radioactive rock
>Another, different Cyborg
>The Literal Personification Of All Evil, Final Boss Of The Entire Universe
>A blue girl with electric powers
>A very large monkey with radiation powers

Maybe it's because his villains suck

>>714133183 (OP)
Superman is just boring. Oh he's literally god unless you have some green rock I wonder how he'll be taken down by the villain oooo spooky. Predictable and boring

Reminder that Superman got mogged so hard by Captain Marvel that DC resorted to suing Fawcett Comics out of existence and then buying Captain Marvel from them

>>714133183 (OP)
they are probably scared to risk it none of his other games were very good

The challenge is saving people and doing the right thing, not punching the bad guy really hard.

>>714133931
And now Marvel own "Captain Marvel" and Billy will forever be Shazam

>>714133183 (OP)
Superman is lame as fuck. Only little brown kids and cucks like him.

Superman is cringe Jewish heroism mythology.

>>714133183 (OP)
>Dante or Kratos
Would Superman fans be OK with a game where he can be harmed and killed by the weakest enemies he can encounter like Dante or Kratos can?

>>714133183 (OP)
he boring

>>714133183 (OP)
Ok OP, what game ideas do you have for Superman?

>Goku can be strong because he is mostly relegated to fighting games

>Dante is a hack and slash

>Kratos is strong, but not invincible

Would your game involve having Superman fly around metropolis fighting criminals? If so, how do you make flight fun and intuitive to control? How do you make enemies fun to fight without making Superman over powered?

Face it OP, Superman is too boring and overpowered to make a game out of. There's no in game conflict you could make fun.

The over powered examples are lightweights compared to Superman.

>>714134459
Yes if theyre not generic humans and can be ripped apart or easily killed. If Kratos can be harmed by undead then have Superman get harmed by dudes in exoskeletons or using high-powered laser rifles. But also include a morality system to it. You cam rip them in half but obviously Superman shouldnt be doing that.

Of all the cope arguments that people give as to why Superman doesn't have any games, "He's too OP" is probably the one that carries the least weight. There are TONS of games that feature characters going up against (and potentially losing to depending on the player's skill) enemies that in theory they should wipe the floor with. A similar style of game featuring superman would not be the first, last, or even the most egregious example of such a thing. Whatever the reason is as to why Superman isn't seeing any love in modern gaming, it's not because he's too OP, I can promise you that.

>>714133837
You have never seen a single piece of Superman media in your life.

>>714133183 (OP)
Goku isn't OP. If he was alone he would have lost all of his noteworthy fights.

Asura wrath but with Superman

>>714133720
Luthor is kino, yes.

>>714133183 (OP)
Those aren't even iront-poisoned arguments, you absolute bellend.

He already has a game though? Its called Injustice.

>>714135784
You’re right they’re more hypocritical. Like how people are fine with MTX in a Nintendo game but if it happens in another game not owned by Nintendo its evil.

>>714133720
You forgot magical midget, who fucks over people for lulz and can only be won by outsmarting him.

>>714133183 (OP)
Superman is gay and shit compared to Goku anyways

>>714133183 (OP)
I don't care what era Superman your trying to pander about. I think all capeshit makes for weird and dull balanced games

>>714135940
I'd rather play an Ilulu game

>>714133720
You forgot
>Superman but evil
>Superman but retarded
>Superman but rude and with an attitude
>Trickster God that just wants a laugh

The GameCube game got it right by giving Superman a health bar that constantly refills at a decent rate, but if you got cocky and stayed too still in the line of fire of too many enemies they would overwhelm you and you'd lose health faster than it could refill.

>>714135887
They're not even hupocritical, because most of the listed examples don't have both of the same limitations at once. Sonic is good, but he can't explode the city on whim. Kratos can fuck over a city, but he doesn't care. Goku is probaly the closest to Superman in ability and morals, and most succesful Dragonball games are fighting games that happen in empty deserts. So yes. You could easily have "Superman game" like that, like the two Injustice games. You could have other types of games as well, but you'd need to deal with the inherent issues in some form, such as moving the action away from (human) city or limiting collateral damage through game mechanics.

>just make him less powerful without any attempt at reasoning or justification, he's just not THAT strong in this <media>
Never been done. Utterly unthinkable. Who would do that and still expect to make a product popular with the fans.

>>714133183 (OP)
you just answered yourself, it's not one or the other, it's because he's both

The character himself is boring for most video games. His games would need to be fighting games to fight villains since thats where any real threat is. Any other game would be him doing boy scout stuff and having fights with goons for formality.

>>714133183 (OP)
Aonuma spent a whole year beta-testing TOTK, just to make sure the physics worked.

what make supertards find this supercuck so inspiring?

>>714136561
>Any other game would be him doing boy scout stuff and having fights with goons for formality.
And it would be kino.

>superman
>western hero
he's a power fantasy for literal kikes first and foremost
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Siegel#Early_life
no wonder the character nowadays is just a glorified playground kid's "kill everything" move lol

>>714133991
This. Retards immediately want to put Superman in an Arkham style game and then complain nothing can threaten him. These idiots have not played a wide variety of games and are only familiar with one genre. We have games where you are a literal god who can't be killed but the gameplay isn't about direct combat/punching the bad guys.

>>714133183 (OP)
I believed those arguments until I looked up "Death of superman" that comic where Doomsday kills Superman. What's funny is that he's not even that overpowered(compared to goku), at least in those comics. He gets weakened by a magic user and fights a dozen of minor villains and gg.
In a videogame you'd have the minor villains take 1HP and bosses 5HP. I don't know how it'd work with AAA budget or current lore.

Maybe have him fight other overpowered characters like the wukong game idk.

>>714137258
>>714133991
So what you're saying is they should make a telltale game for Superman.

>>714133720
>>The Literal Personification Of All Evil, Final Boss Of The Entire Universe
Fuck darkseid getting wanked into oblivion he's supposed to just be a jobber tyrant who can't even catch santa because the new gods are just fucking people but now he's the literal avatar of tyranny as a concept

>>714133183 (OP)
everyone on Earth played SuperMan64 and universally agreed he's never allowed to be in a standalone game ever again

>>714133183 (OP)
>Superman is WB's most iconic IP
>Has Rocksteady who made the incredibly successful Arkham series and is ready for their next venture
> -------
>Make them a shitty suicide game that comes out a decade after the movie it was tying in with
>Take the shadow of Mordor guys and stick them to a Wonder Woman project that ends up getting cancelled anyways and was probably meant to tie in with the cancelled wonder woman movie no one cared about
Is there a more retarded game producer in the industry?

superman VN where you need to have manage an affection meter with his allies(lane, jimmy, justice league, etc.) while going around doing superman stuff and fighting villains

>>714133720
>Billionaire with head so far up his own ass he thinks he's the good guy
I love how even in your most bad faith, most dismissive possible way you could've described Luthor, he still doesn't sound too bad.

>>714137447
Again, I repeat, we have games where you are a literal god that cannot die, can create matter out of nothing, remove matter, create hurricanes, summon pillars of fire, conjure tidal waves, transform people into superhumans, etc. but the gameplay isn't punching the bad guy.

>>714137561
I wasn't trying to make Luthor sound evil, much in the same way you weren't trying to sound like such a faggot

>>714133183 (OP)
Superman's power suite is boring, that's my biggest complaint. Heat vision and X-ray vision are somewhat interesting, but super strength, super speed, super durability, and flight are all only interesting with limitation. If you have a hero who is just unbelievably strong but can't do anything else, that's fun, because you can see how he tries to solve problems his fists can't reach. If you have a character who's just fast it's like "cool, but oh wait what does he do against this super durable guy..."
Even if it were just flight and heat vision it would be cool. Flying around trying to get a good angle for your laser eyes while avoiding getting instagibbed. That stuff is all fun.
Superman? Dull.

In Dragonball adult Goku fights other Saiyans and aliens equal or stronger than him. Just do that. Make him fight aliens or kryptonians

>>714136391
This looks retarded

>>714137970
Easily yeah. Superman can fight aliens, demons, magical beings, Gods, Super Advanced Robots, Clones, ect... and yet people are more concerned with Superman fighting common street mooks.

>>714137834
>but the gameplay isn't punching the bad guy.
But a big thing about superman is punching the bad guy. They'd never do this, but a superman game based on his original powerset could work though

>>714138264
>Superman can fight aliens, demons, magical beings, Gods, Super Advanced Robots, Clones, ect...
Or that

>>714133183 (OP)
Videogames have progression systems, how do you do that with Superman without involving a Red Sun or Kryptonite BDSM recovery situation?

>>714133183 (OP)
>i hecking love doomguy
>his power level? whatever he needs to beat bad guy ass.
>he fights against demons to literally kill satan

ultra hard mode: an OPM videogame

>>714133183 (OP)
Bruh Goku and Dante are infinitely more cool and they are surrounded by cool mother fuckers evil and good. Most people know two characters from super man, that’s pathetic

>>714137929
he can blow ice using the wind in his lungs, you could use this as a stun on enemies which sets up a combo with his laser eyes.

>>714138264
Add guys in mech suits, atomic powered experiments, mutated creatures, kaiju etc

>>714138376
start from Superman's origins, basically give him his original powerset of super strength that also enables him to leap tall buildings in a single bound and run as a fast a locomotive. As the game progresses he starts unlocking more of his modern powers like heat vision and ice breath until you're just full power Supes beating up Darkseid, parademons and Darkseid's children.

If The Legacy of Goku and Buu's Fury games came out today, people would complain about the Z fighters dying to fucking wolves and snakes instead of having fun with the games.

green lantern game with haptic gloves

>>714137447
>Oh no a volcano has erupted and the islanders, tourists, scientists and even the US marine base are in danger
>how will superman save everyone!?!?

He doesn't have to punch a dude who is either a) too weak or b) invulnerable like supes

I've noticed that in the new Superman movie trailers, they show Superman getting hit a lot probably to stop the Superman is boring because he's completely invincible thing people have been saying for years. Though that has it's own problem where everyone says Superman is weak now and *insert character here* can easily kick his ass.

>>714137834
>>714137478

>>714138661
>bringing back the power gauntlet

>>714138376
It's a game.
You don't have to justify every game mechanic with story reasons. It's an abstract. And if you really, want it to, just make it so he learns new techniques and applications of his already existing powers. Or kryptonian martial arts or whatever.

>>714133720
Ah yes, the classic "this cool stuff fucking sucks actually" argument.

>>714138723
>Save the tourists first
>Save the Islanders first
>Save those at the Marine base first
>...

Superman game.
>First level, you start off OP as fuck
>Superman gets hit by red solar shit/kryptonite/a magic spell and gets majorly nerfed to the point that guys in Mech Suits can give him a challenge
>Overtime, Superman regains his strength/powers and is back to OP by the end of the game
>New Game Plus, he has everything from the start to end
That too hard?

>>714137914
NTA, but he didn't say you were making Luthor sound evil. He said you couldn't make him sound bad, most likely in the sense that you couldn't make him sound uninteresting as a character despite actively trying to.

>>714138723
>>how will superman save everyone!?!?
with his super-fuck-off-speed, duh, you think you were clever with that? you expect me to believe the dude that can punch fags so hard alternate versions of them feel the hits isn't able to get entire crowds of people away from the danger of an active volcano before they even notice the heat? and i'm deliberately ignoring the ice breath thing here, the problem isn't just that he's too strong for any adversary to serve as a plausible threat to him, it's also that his arsenal is so wanked that one of his powers serves as a viable solution to at least 3 different dangerous situations, that's boring as fuck

>>714139216
Continuing from this, something that happens in KH games is Sora gets strong at the end of the game, by the beginning of the next game, he's been severely nerfed and has to get stronger again.

>>714138376
This is so fucking easy, I don't know why so many people have a hard time figuring it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl_5UwS57X8

Start the game with Superman HOLDING BACK his strength. As the game progresses he learns how to control his strength so he can punch enemies harder without accidentally killing them.

>>714139319
So Superman has a variety of means to save people? Sounds fun, the player could use breath to ice up the volcano, use strength to dig a ditch to catch the lava, use speed to ferry people to the boat/plane, bring emergency people to the area to help, use heat vision to melt rock and let off pressure etc etc

>>714133183 (OP)
>just admit you hate the idea of a morally powerful and physically powerful Western hero
If they admit that, then they lose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU7fk9Zgkz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9x83Cf17Z4
While I prefer the comic version, "evil" Superman using the Sephiroth voice was a good decision.

>>714133183 (OP)
A clown beat him by killing his wife and unborn child

>>714133183 (OP)
Already mentioned how to make a good Super Man game before, follow the Superman Smashes the Klan playbook where he intentionally nerfs himself early on because he's a afraid of terrifying people. (I.E. he doesn't fly, he gets around Metropolis by running along the power lines like pic related) As the game goes on he goes through character development and gains all his power.

Hell, you could have a NewGame+ mode callled 'World Made of Cardboard" where you start off being able to destroy everything and you need to learn to hold back.

>>714133183 (OP)
Superman's regularly depicted as beatable.

I thought Lego Batman already solved it, at least in a vacuum.

>>714138542
The ice breath thing is still just because he's SOOOOOO strong. Like if he only had ice breath that's another example of a limited power that could have fun applications. Limited range, limited utility. You can't just blow ice on everything, you have to figure out how blowing ice can give you an advantage in a bad situation. That's interesting.

>>714133183 (OP)
>Sonic
>good and pure

>>714139654
>Superman alternate universe where Ma and Pa Kent are in the Klan and raise him to be the ultimate Grand Wizard
This Luthor would also be a black catholic.

>>714139886
That would be rightfully called a knock off Red Sun.
Also Superman Smashes the Klan is a retelling of The Adventures of Superman Radio Show story where Superman did fight Klan, aka the Klan of the Fiery Kross.
This was right after World War II where the Klan was seeing resurgence, so a reporter infiltrated the Klan and learned their secrets, and after the police refused to act, the reporter went to the writers of Superman Radio show where they made a story about it and if effectively crippled the Klan's growth.
Even more fun fact, the Klan tried to pull a cancel culture move by trying to pressure the sponsors of The Adventures of Superman show, like Kellogg, but that only caused them all to dig in.
If you got 3 hours, it's still interesting listen since this was all done live over the course of several weeks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H29BlTaYZ0U

Fuck Superman. Give me a Bizarro game.

Just create a scenario where he gets weakened and has to progressively get his strength back? Technology, magic, space AIDS. He is supposed to be that strong because of Earth's Sun, right? The space villain puts a barrier/filter around the planet or just Metropolis to reverse the effect of the Sun, and Superman temporarily gets weak enough to hurt, he gains resistance over the course of the game but only returns to full form at the end when whatever/whoever is keeping the barrier up is punched enough. Ez.

>>714133183 (OP)
So ummm are synder fanboys gonna start shooting at moviegoers on the first day when superman release?

>>714133183 (OP)
>I’m sick of these hollow, irony-poisoned arguments just admit you hate the idea of a morally powerful and physically powerful Western hero getting the spotlight.

Mario and Sora from Kingdom Hearts have both a similar personality to Superman and even color scheme. Want to know why Superman doesn't work? Video games have you KILLING something usually a generic mook or boss enemy. Mario and Sora can kill villains while remaining nice heroes. Superman by the rules of Caped Super Heroes cannot kill anyone because doing so would break the super hero rule. As such a super hero makes for a poor backdrop for a video game.

Not even Batman and Spiderman actually work because the flaws of super heroes still happens with them, they allow evil repeat offending criminals to continue making new victims. Superman should have killed Lex Luthor generations ago but the fact we know Superman will never kill him under standard continuity makes the premise of a Superman game lame.

>>714133183 (OP)
I don't understand the appeal of superman. Not hating on it, just don't get it. Don't bother replying. Not interested enough to continue reading or replying in this thread.

>>714133183 (OP)
There is already a Superman game and it's called Megaton Rainfall. It has full destruction, flight, super strength, the entire planet, cities, the solar system, the entire universe.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/430210/Megaton_Rainfall/

>>714133183 (OP)
I like the Genesis Death of Superman game, that may be one of the only good ones

>>714140530
Don't worry. Superman can just give you a Fate Worse Than Death by trapping you in the Phantom Zone.

>>714139806
I can assure you, as a Sonicfag, Sonic is a mary sue, it's one of the many big problems I have with how the series is handled by Sega and Sonic Team.
He always makes the right calls, he's inherently super talented at everything, his morals are completely immune to degradation, etc.
Superman at least has major character flaws like him having to pretend to be someone he's not for most of his life, him fearing his own strength destroying the people he cares so much about and him being severely poisoned by the last pieces of the lost civilization he came from and longs for belonging with.

>>714137561
I thought he was describing Elon Musk and I cringed hard at the thought of that loser.

>>714140530
>Video games have you KILLING something usually a generic mook or boss enemy.
Wrong, see Mario Tennis, The Sims, Tetris, Need for Speed, Solitaire, Animal Crossing, etc. There are plenty of games and genres where you don't kill anything.

This isn’t related to anything but I just like how Timm and Dini made Luthor their POV character for the cartoons. His whole pursuit of power makes him an interesting thematic parallel to Superman.

>>714140530
Superman (Post Crisis) told Batman he would kill if there's no other option. It's why he killed Doomsday. It's why he killed some evil Kryptonians and had an arc where he exiled himself from Earth.

>>714133720
Bizzarro is outright unbearable, I tried reading some Superman comics and when he showed up I was disillusioned with the whole idea of comics
>ME NOT AM NOT NOT GOOD SUPERMAN
shut the fuck up you grey bozo

>>714140530
Do you honestly believe Mario kills Goombas whenever he stomps on them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLG4BJH0P7U

/v/ approved superman comics?

>>714140986
EDS

>>714141313
>not disarming bombs while dancing
Gay, queer, homosexual

>>714134459
His weakest enemies can turn a human head into punch debris, so yes.

>>714140530
It's supposedly ambiguous if you kill things in a game like Pokemon or mario. tldr; Make game full of abstraction or just have them get knocked out.

How about this? You have two modes. One is good boy Scout Superman mode. The other mode is Ultraman mode which turns the game into a combination of Hulk Ultimate Destruction and Prototype.

>>714141408
His weakest enemies are Intergang, regular human criminals who use high tech weaponry to put themselves slightly above the kind of mobsters Batman beats up daily

>>714137526
I hate to say it, but "Telltale's Superman" is the easiest way to shut down anyone saying a Superman game is impossible. They've done Batman, Fables, TWD, and a bunch more I never kept up with which means they've made plenty of comic book games that plenty of people played without needing to power balance combat.

>>714133183 (OP)
Goku, Kratos, and Dante aren't OP and part of it has to do with character and style. Goku is a fight autist and Dante and Kratos go ham on enemies with combos and stuff. Superman's mostly a flying brick boy scout and fighting in such ways is out of character for him.

>>714141201
Mario does kill many villains that are strong enough to threaten all life on his world. Ask Smithy, Fawful, and Cackleta. Even in different dimensions Mario still kills powerful threats like Dimentio and Shadow Queen. Lets not imagine Mario is a no kill pacifist.

>>714138070
Cope, Superman isn't that strong in his popular depictions, like in the movies and cartoons

>>714141313
I only read manga

>>714136391
This, taking hits could stagger him and lower your style points, no chance at traditional death or failure, the point of the game is to finish a level with a high score on style. Pros would look fuckin cool and invincible while noobs look stupid and lame.

>>714141572
>Goku, Kratos, and Dante aren't OP
I like all those characters but if that was true the creators wouldn’t be trying to replace them with Gohan and Nero (Gohan didn’t work out but that was cause the Japs didn’t want him)

Invincible Game:
>Stick to canon be the one of the rare decent Marks
>Go full sadistic bastard like the Alternate Marks
>Super Evil Route: Rule what's left of the Viltrum Empire and conquer the Universe

>>714141074
The ending where its revealed he fused with Brianiac was fucking kino. I havent seen it since I was a kid but it's still stuck in my mind.

The most enduring and famous image of Superman is him saving people not punching brainiac or doomsday. Make the game about saving people and it doesn't matter if he is invincible because humans aren't.

>>714135940
Your favorite game is capeshit.

>>714141698
A character doesn't have to be OP for a writer to want to have a character pass the torch narratively.

>>714139654
What if the game starts as Superboy in Kansas learning his powers so that's why he's nerfed and has to 'level up'? Superman couldn't always fly he just 'lept tall buildings in a single bound.' So it could be a reference to his history. Until he moved to Metropolis.

>>714141614
Of course not, but to pretend that stuff dies all the time is retarded, like Superman, Mario only kills when he absolutely has to.

>>714140530
Superman kills all the time. You think he cares if he vaporizes a Parademon with heat vision or some demon or recent Star Labs experiment gone wrong? Its sapient beings he has a problem with killing or anything with a mild degree of compassion or humanity in it.

I want a superhero game that says fuck the realistic style and goes full cel shades stylized, like Spiderverse or the cel shades comic style Spiderman suit in the PS4 games or hell even Gravity Rush which was inspired by European comics. Maybe even get Bruce Timm in on it and go full cartoon proportions.

I don't really care much about Superman or DC so I can't really say. My dream capeshit game would be a solo Thor game that pulls more from Thor comics than the MCU shit. Kirby, Simmonson, Aaron, JMS, Ewing.....Thor has pretty good stories and lore. His equipment would also make for great playstyles. Bare-handed, Mjolnir, Jarbjorn, warrior madness. Shame Snoy and Sancta Monica are shit. Thor game made by Sancta Monica would be pretty cool.

>>714141742
>saving people not punching
He's smashing a car into a rock to capture crooks

I don't care I want to play Clark Kent too.

>>714141742
I don't follow comic book shit much but people were basically nutting to Superman saving people in the new movie's trailer because they're so starved for a Superman saving them/us. It's the most uplifting shit in the goddamn world.

>>714133183 (OP)
Superman's motto is literally "truth, justice and the american way", today's society does not give a fuck abouth any of those three things especially the people in media and entertainment. Superman cannot exsist in our society.

>>714141915
>Kirby, Simmonson, Aaron, JMS, Ewing.....

Imagine a cel shaded game in the style of Jack Kirby. It would out Jet Set Radio to shame in style.

>>714141817
Lame, just like child goku is lame. LAME!

>>714141831
Yes, Mario only kills when he has to. Superman on the other hand is so powerful he doesn't seem to feel the pressure and need to kill as often. And its more human to kill a threat over letting a criminal live.

Its a weird conundrum in that Mario is similar to Superman but doesn't have the roadblocks that cripple Superman. This is why Mario can push the envelope and flourish.

What gameplay is he going to have? Flying through rings and more rings?

>>714142019
>today's society does not give a fuck abouth any of those three things especially the people in media and entertainment. Superman cannot exsist in our society.

No fuck you people were busting nuts over the new Superman just saving some fucking kid in the trailer after the synder shit. Dont let the jews win and let you convince you people dont want this.

>>714133720
Hank Henshaw is better than any villain you could come up with

>>714142054
Kid Goku grabbed more pussies than you have grabbed in your lifetime.

>>714133183 (OP)
CHADulk got a game and he is OP as shit.

>>714142087
Flying with super strength means he can literally fly through anything. Give him an excuse to not need to care about buildings and it would be like the new DK game with smashable everything plus fucking laserbeams.

Why does every Superman devole into fags talking about making a glorified puzzle game because they can't comprehend the idea that you can actually have him fight aliens, robots, mutant abominations, wizards, and other enemies that can actually harm him? Why do these retards always assume that the only possible enemies you can fight are just generic humans with guns?
You want a good Superman game? Just make a level-based action game where you start at one end of the stage and make your way to the other end while fighting Brianiac's robots or whatever and end the stage with a boss fight against Brainiac himself, or a fight against Doomsday as a recurring boss, or Bizarro who thinks he's your rival.
You can even have Metropolis as a hub world to satisfy the people who get obsessed with the struggle of trying to stop two back robberies at the same time.

>>714141915
Thor would be alot easier to make a game for since he isnt well known to people outside the shitty movies which is another character entirely. You can also do pretty much anything with him. Space adventures fughting alien conquerors or other pantheons of gods, the 9 realms and magical monsters, Earth villains like Absorbing Man or the Wrecking Crew, Galactus etc

>>714141915
Comic Thor is so much better than MCU Thor. Such a good character.

>>714142113
Early reviews are saying Gunns new movie turns Clark into a joke and is full of the same garbage people have criticized the Guardians movies for. Also the CGI is worse than Man of Steel which came out 12 years earlier.

>>714142054
Kid Goku was the most fun Goku. He also consistently had more wins besides the final rounds in Tenkaichi Budokai.

>>714142239
>HURR DURR LETS MAKE ANOTHER GENERIC SUPERHERO ACTION GAME FOR THE 382612TH TIME INSTEAD OF AN INTERESTING SUPERMAN GAME THAT IS TRUE TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL

>>714134289
pretty much this
and like anything jewish it doesn't work

>>714133183 (OP)
Superman always brings out the midwits of of the wood work, I don't know why but he does.

>superman is only interesting when he turns evil

>>714142352
Is it just me or does the perspective in this image make his right arm look undersized?

>Watch Tower Virtual Reality Training
>Races with Supergirl and Flash
Yeah, that's the stuff.

>>714142489
>THAT IS TRUE TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL
Being true to the source material IS that you mongrel.

this >>714141313
is so much less dynamic than >>714141406
its insane

>>714142741
FUCK OFF AND PLAY MORE GAMES INSTEAD OF GENERIC ACTION SLOP

>>714141923
Oh well pardon me, my mistake

>>714133183 (OP)
superman is for people over 50, get over it old man

>>714133183 (OP)
Superman is boring and weaker than the flash

>>714133183 (OP)
>Superman is too good and pure to be a compelling hero but oh my look another Sonic
I mentioned this in one of the Sonic x Justice League threads on /co/, but those comics really showed just how little the writers understood the characters they were working with by pairing Shadow with Batman. The character Shadow SHOULD'VE been paired with was Superman, because both are the most virtuous members of their respective character sets even though Shadow looks like he'd be the furthest from Superman morally. A talented writer would've picked up on this, and used it as a way to showcase how similar they are in their selflessness, desire to make the world a better place, and how their resolve both comes from their hearts.
Sonic is a much different character from Superman, and in terms of what you're describing, much more "morally grey" than Superman. Not necessarily in that he has a villainous streak, but in a more thematic way in that Sonic represents the moral and philosophical path of the Buddha whereas Shadow represents the moral and philosophical path of Christ. Makes me sad to see such a surface level understanding of these characters being used to propagate your argument for a Superman game, which makes me think that your stance is disingenuous and you don't actually care for Superman either, and are using empty rhetoric to feign outrage and demand something you don't even want or would even understand if it existed.

>>714142167
>>714142441
Also the best EN song that 98% of current 4chan hasn't heard of.
https://youtu.be/Mht7phPbd0Y?si=Go4yqeg73oBKuOa_&t=12

>Kryptonian May Cry
DMC/Bayonetta inspired game, moreso Bayonetta because of the QTE for epic sequences in boss fights
>Main Character is Superman. Unlockable characters are Supergirl, Bizarro, and Wonder Woman
>Final Boss is Darkseid
>fight gods, aliens, kaijuu, demons, Braniac robots, people who got powers by science, ect...
>Optional boss fights against League Members like Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and Flash to test you

>>714141326
>Defending a billionaire with weirs mangled dick from his botched penis enlargement surgery

ngmi

>>714143075
How is he weaker than Flash? Isn't Flash's power is just running fast?

>bro superman should be literally untouchable
>nevermind that dante and kirby and bayo and dozen other action, shooter, and platformer protags canonically never get hit and thus gameplay is completely separate from plot for that purpose
>superman can't have that even though other capeshit games already do

>>714143104
> because both are the most virtuous members of their respective character sets even though Shadow looks like he'd be the furthest from Superman morally
Shadowfags are fucking delusional. Your ilk have been getting uppity in recent years when it isnt even warranted or earned. We have been MAKING fun of you since 2006.

>>714143273
>Isn't Flash's power is just running fast
can't tell if you are trolling but yes
and somehow this becomes the most broken thing in all of comics

>>714134824
maybe something fun like you can get your ass knocked around and take SOME damage but ultimately the objective is always to mitigate damage to the city. maybe challenge runs to win a fight fast while also doing as little damage as possible to everything else so you get style points.

>>714142057
>Mario only kills when he has to. Superman on the other hand
Kills only when he has to.
If he doesn't kill enough, then have him fight things he can't afford to spare like Brainiac or Doomsday, things that can actually threaten him.
Power is relative, there are many characters in DC that can defeat him and many more that can force him to stop holding back, Trigon being an example of the former and Doomsday being an example of the latter.

>>714143273
Flash rebooted the DC universe by just running fast. Is there anything similar that Superman has done?

>>714143335
speedsters need to be inherently limited because otherwise they become this stupid dbz-tier power wankery
things like force remaining the same so faster speed will be limited by less momentum, maybe by reducing the speedster's mass
or requiring charge times, or only being able to redirect kinetic force as its applied to you so you can't just go 0-10000mph in a second unless you get hit by a wrecking ball

>>714143273
Yes, it is.
>Those were for charity, Clark

>>714133183 (OP)
>>714133720
Superman represents the working class who can pass highschool. Sad that most see him as someone to hate and not aspire to be. Mostly incels who want to be rich to be batman, or ironman. Peter Parker is just a retard with no fucking balls.

>>714143335
Superman can also run fast no?

>>714142368
Fuck irony jesus christ

>>714144085
People hate superman because of the general nihilism and cynicism in today's youth. The rat race mentality got to these types. Idealism is bad in a nutshell

You can thank Watchmen for popularizing the "superheroes are people... and people are... le bad" angle that became dominant and ruined comics, even though what makes a superhero isn't just having superpowers, it's also being a hero, you know, as it says in the name.
Superheroes and supervillains should always be morally black and white. Pixar's Incredibles is in my opinion the only production ever to do "superheroes are also people dealing with mundane and realistic things" right.

>>714143763
>implying writers give a shit
nobody takes the flash seriously after years of speed force circlejerking attosecond bullshit
maybe if his rogue gallery is better but even most of them are literal whos

>>714144106
the meme is superman has supermuscles, so he can run super fast, but the flash is able to directly access the concept of speed itself (the speed force) he can do anything as fast as he wants to effectively
it's top tier cape shittery and also made for the most kino capeshit (flashpoint don't @ me)

>>714133183 (OP)
Honestly? As long as the game was decent I be okay with a Superman game. Even something as simple as a 2D beam em up be fine, assuming it was at least alright. I do get the sentiment why people are hesitant to make a Superman game, but I wouldn't be against one ever happening again if someone wanted to try.

>>714133720
Doomsday is kino, fuck you

>>714144360
*beat em up

>>714133183 (OP)
you're arguing in circles with yourself. the reason we don't have a superman game is warnerbros incompetence and then later their collapse. that's it. without that rocksteady would have delivered one to follow up the arkham trilogy. it's really that simple.

>>714143434
>a giant escort mission

>>714133183 (OP)
Superman is boring, the universe he exists in is boring. Has nothing to do with some weird perceived bias.

>Somehow, the remnants of a random ass planet in the middle of nowhere, got to earth in such quantities that people have pieces of it in their homes.
Would that make superman...BILLIONS of years old?

>>714144281
>speedforce
Well... Superman is superforce then

>>714144563
Honestly anon, capeshit is retarded if you think about it for more a minute.

>>714144106
He flies a lot faster than he runs, but yes, he is very fast, it's just that Wally, and even Barry, are that much faster than Superman is, both Flashes can leave Superman in the dust.

>>714136391
>man of steel, impervious to bullets
>super speed
How the fuck is he getting staggered?
Actually, how the fuck is he even getting hit in the first place?

This is why superman is fucking retarded. You have to make him stupid and weaker for no real reason so that anybody can do anything to him.

>>714136391
Cool, so this is what it would be like to play as a boring guy in a cape that gets pummeled by a dude in a helicopter

>>714144523
At least one comic has Superman looking up into the night sky and pointing out Krypton, which he can still see because his father's rocket got him to Earth faster than the light from the explosion of the planet being destroyed.

How Kryptonite also got that far across the galaxy isn't brought up much.

>>714133183 (OP)
Goku typically gets his ass kicked in the majority of DBZ sagas. Mario, Sonic, and maybe Kirby have probably died the most times amongst all video game characters of all time.
Superman's is just God and managed to get his ass kicked once in the 90s.

Personally, I have no sense of scale for Superman, and that really hurts for consistency and helping me connect to drama he's involved in as a character. He's either comparable to the Flash in speed, capable of surviving in the sun, borderline immortal, and he's always "holding back" out of fear of causing irreparable harm to the person he's fighting. Why is he getting his shit pushed in all the time then? Why are fistfights a thing with him? Why isn't he nigh invulnerable? If you're as strong as steel, being hit should feel like hitting steel, you would hurt yourself from the physical force of your own punches.

I can get kryptonite
I can get magic
I can get technology
But being zapped by lightning? The man can survive IN THE SUN, how is he recoiling and being sent flying back?

And how would you even make a Superman action game? Fly everywhere? It would be more fun to play as Clark Kent and do sneaking games with a time limit and just cut to newspaper headlines that show your results.
>Superman late to the scene! Lives lost
>Day saved before it ever realized it was in danger by the Man of Steel!

>>714133183 (OP)
isnt that the one where he gained psychic powers to defeat the 4 future brits

>>714144228
thats not really what Watchmen is about, its just that capes are inherently flashy and not actually an ideal solution to the world's problems (let alone the hero's personal issues)

>>714144759
The problem with DC and Marvel comics is the simple fact that you have a million different people working on em, so inconsistency is the name of the game. At least most manga have the decency to end at some point.

>>714133183 (OP)
Superman is old enough of an IP that all kinds of bullshit can be came up with in a contained continuity for an action game to scale his power level accordingly. Mundane things like helping and saving people can help reinforce the superhero part than being just a superpowered manchild.

That said, something like having Shazam as an endgame/postgame rival character who has a similar moveset could be fun, having an arc where you gotta humble his ass.

>>714144685
Wait until you find out that there are people stronger than Superman who frequently slap him around without him being nerfed.

Then you can say "superman is so fucking retarded you have to make people STRONGER than him to do anything!!!" like the contrarian dipshit you are.

I prefer Marvel over DC so I am glad to see that Marvel vidya is doing good.

>>714136391
this is what happens when you write yourself into a corner with a being that is overpowered by every metric but still have him fight regular people
it's just pure incompetence
I could write a lore accurate game for Superman and it'd be better than any capeshit game currently out there

>>714145037
This is not 'good'.

>>714139010
knowers know

>>714145069
>Snoy
Tokon and Rivals baby.

>>714133720
Batman is the only one with good villains its not even close with the other JL members

>>714141709
A character so OP that only flash speed force bullshittery could beat him lol

>>714133183 (OP)
Dante gets his ass kicked all the time and can die easily.
Goku, Superman and Kratos are the same level of fucking boring.

>>714133183 (OP)
>Game start with you playing Superman, invincible and one shot everything as a tutorial
>End of tutorial got hit by darkness kryptonite something to protect Lois which slowly kills him and this led him to not be able to stop Earth from being covered in something that block of the sun ozone thing so now you're playing Superman nerfed.
>Enemies are the creature of the dark dimension something. Each mission ends with removing the nerf layer, unlocking more skills like longer flight etc.
>Have some cameos from other heroes for assist.

>Koslov-sama, please don't rape my asshole again
KWAB!

>>714145867
Kek.

>>714133183 (OP)
Goku CHEATED

Will you be watching Gunnslop manchild Superman this month

>>714147598
yes

>>714147598
>WHERES MUH HEKIN DOGERINO LEX

>>714145202
The Snoy series that game is a part of is officially called "Marvel's Spider-Man".

>>714137258
Yeah, I'm sure a manager sim is exactly what the average superhero fan craves.

>>714147598
I am actually interested in Gunn's super cartoony approach to this movie. Will be interesting seeing how it compares to Snyder and the MCU.

>>714148374
Anything is better than Snyder's tortureporn.

>>714147598
Nope, dont like how overemotional he is, feels like an overcorrection for Snyderman being to stoic, too many characters and i hate the camera fish eyes lens effect. It looks so bad, had people memeing he looked crosseyed in the trailers because of it
Gunn is a terrible choice for Superman, shouldve been Raimi or someone who can do geuine hero camp

>>714148371
Here's your problem, anon. You are completely devoid of creativity and intelligence that you immediately assume I was suggesting we make a sim manager game for Superman when I was merely giving an example of a game where you play as an invincible god and the gameplay does not involve direct combat. That it's possible to make an interesting game about Superman that explores the character, and not just make another Arkham style game and replacing it with a Superman skin(this is actually possible with Arkham Knight and modding if you're so desperate to see Superman punch a bad guy).

it could work if instead kf getting game kver when superman dies, you get game over when superman kills someone, and the player is graded based on how much damage was done to criminals and surrounding buildings.

>>714133183 (OP)
>Superman is too good and pure
It's unironically this though.
Superman will give a shit about saving the absolute most literal who civilian whenever he can and will always use the appropriate amount of force to deal with a threat. You're not gonna see him punting unpowered bank robbers to the moon, even if they're shooting him with rayguns.
You're better off just making a Hulk game like Ultimate destruction again because it's guaranteed that 90% of people playing a Superman game won't be dealing with threats in a Superman fashion.

>>714134242
He isn't that anymore either. Billy is Billy and his super hero alter ego is "The Captain". No Marvel.

>>714133183 (OP)
Why can't supercucks ever make a cogent argument without descending into pseudoreligious nonsense?
>You just FEAR THE PURITY AND INTEGRITY THAT IS THE PROTAGONIST OF MY CAPESHIT FOR TODDLERS

>>714133720
Doomsday and Lobo are extremely fun.
I would also give him one of the lantern corps to fight honestly. Maybe greed/Larfleeze

>>714133720
Metallo is kino, fuck you

>>714133720
>>Another, different Cyborg

hank henshaw would make for an interesting villain to fight. he could be begging for supes to kill him and every quarter or so in the fight he adapts, chnges form and looks less and less human until hes a head with a cybernetic spider body or something, still begging and screaming to die

>>714133837
What is this retarded argument? Most of his villains are powerful enough to take him on in a fight without kryptonite.

>>714145315
Fucking who? He has two. Barely Freeze/Fries and Firefly.
Everyone else has been milked to complete death

Problem: Supes' powerlevel makes him a bad action game hero
Solution1 : Nerf Supes with green rock cancer until the very moment of the game where he becomes invincible
Solution2: Stop focusing on making another action slop and focus on choices that Superman has to make in a Telltale style game
>talking down badguys
>trolley problems
>saving kittens
>gameplay recreation of that one time where Superman dresses as Batman
>occassional action QTE

>>714151361
The fact they're starting to get old now doesn't mean they were never good, in fact it proves they were loved enough to overuse to this point.

>>714151446
They’ve always been shit and uninteresting. His most notorious enemy is a fucking clown. I’ll give it up for Hush and Owlman though.

>>714151718
Joker was created in the 30s. The idea of a gangster dressing as a clown and treating murder as if it's a gag was pretty unique for the time.

>>714151798
Unique doesn’t mean good.

>>714151853
Does having been used in several award winning graphic novels, games, cartoons and movies mean good?

>>714151896
No.

>>714151934
That's your opinion and I respect it.

>>714133183 (OP)
The problem is that people's general perception of Superman is that he's 24/7 breaking planets and other shit in the comics when normally his fights and what not have him fighting at building-to-city scale at most UNLESS it's a event thing.

Just give it the Prototype/Hulk ultimate destruction treatment with flight,cold breath and heat vision. Nobody would give a fuck if he gets slightly hurt by powerful artillery just like no one cares if Hulk,Kratos or Dante gets hurt by random weak ass enemies gameplay wise

>>714144392
Doomsday is literally the worst villain of his gallery

>>714133183 (OP)
guys what if superman... BUT EVIL!!!!??????

>>714152030
My perception is that superman can at best knock down a building, still kinda fucky for a game setting especially nowadays that they've completley given up on destruction physics

>>714152073
Nuh uh

>>714152030
>people's general perception of Superman is that he's 24/7 breaking planets and other shit in the comics
Perception of Superman varies with time. In the Silver Age he was basically god, then the Bronze Age and the movies made him slightly more down to earth, nowadays powerscalers will force anyone on the internet to respect his outerversal powerlevel and other such gay shit.

Superman is the most interesting when he gets to be Clark Kent. One thing I am always reminded of is the Justice League episode where he takes Martian Manhunter back to the Kent residence to celebrate Christmas with his family. That kind of thing always warms my heart and reminds me why I like Superman.
But even as superman, I enjoy when he does the little things as well. Not everything has to be a world ending threat.

>>714133183 (OP)
He's just lame. There's a reason kids don't give a shit about him anymore.

>>714144170
>People hate superman because of the general nihilism and cynicism in today's youth.
That explains why Westerners hate Shirou, but love Archer who is his future cynical self.

>>714142654
your eyesights are weak, it's his left arm

>>714144085
Superman no longer represents that.
He represents those born into success.

There is no poorfag superhero which is why comics dying off and rely on endlessly recycling the established for nostalgia.

>>714133991
>The challenge is saving people and doing the right thing, not punching the bad guy really hard.
Yet, the latter's what the majority want. And majority rules.

>>714153382
>Yet, the latter's what the majority want. And majority rules.
Hence why no one can make a good Superman game. What that anon said is what makes Superman Superman and why everyone always rails against comics and games where the premise is "what if Superman but evil" or "what if Superman but an asshole".

>>714153291
Does The Punisher count? He's not a poorfag but he's also just a normal man who saw the need for vigilante justice and took up the mantle.

>>714138264
>Superman can fight aliens, demons, magical beings, Gods, Super Advanced Robots, Clones, ect... and yet people are more concerned with Superman fighting common street mooks.
Because nerds care more about him being a beacon of hope and saving people, instead of the cool fights he can get in with other superpowered freaks.

>>714133183 (OP)
I would love a Superman game where a lot of the issues cant be solved by punching.

>>714140983
>Sonic is a mary sue, it's one of the many big problems I have with how the series is handled by Sega and Sonic Team.
Because you're a millennial obsessed with every character being relatable and grounded. Sonic is a colorful cartoon character. He’s not supposed to be 1:1 to reality. Not just that, but he's meant to be an inspirational mentor figure to whatever actual relatable character that he's paired with in the games. Sonic is like Santa Claus, not Spider-Man. Dude's larger than life by design. A role model for kids.

>Put on glasses
>nobody recognises Superman anymore

>>714153653
The Punisher is reviled among superhero fans because he's a hecking chud who kills instead of copying Clark and Bruce's morality, and also because cops idolise him.

>>714153913
>implying Superman has ever put on glasses
this never happened, meds

>>714153935
In other words, Punisher's cool and the rest are lame.

>>714151321
3 Supermen

>>714143104
>Shadow represents the moral and philosophical path of Christ.
Shadow's literally the Sonic Anti-Christ. His dad's the family friendly version of the Devil. Shad05/ShadGens is Revelations but Shadow rejects his destiny to save humanity both times.

>>714153935
I'd almost feel the Punisher has become even more relevant in the modern landscape of criminals walking away scott free. Theft has basically been decriminalized in several states, drug use is more rampant than it has been since the 70s-90s, and you're more likely to be fucked over by the justice system if you're an honest law abiding citizen, than if you're a degenerate criminal.

So actually, thinking about it that way, yeah it makes sense why cops like The Punisher. Because it's not the cop's fault, it's the legal system tying their hands, and we're at a point where a fugitive system where the guilty are punished is preferable to this clown circus world we live in. Superheroes have always been an outlet for what people look up to, rather than an exact reflection of reality. Superman during the golden age represented a simple ideal to look up to when people didn't want moral quandaries, they had enough shit to deal with getting through the great depression and WW2.

>>714153935
>Punisher's first introduction in MCU is beating a pedo to death in his own shop with his own baseball bat
Punisher is ultra omega kino

>>714143104
Bro, Shadow's a soldier. He's an emo autist who goes all in on THE MISSION and will take lives if necessary. All because Maria wanted him to be a hero to the people. He's an Ends Justify the Means type of guy.

Just make it Asura's Wrath but with multiple routes.

>>714154296
>soldier
He's an edgelord who never truly got over his anger at the world. A soldier would not constantly act alone to the point it impedes his allies' progress.

>>714133183 (OP)
isn't your pic from an episode where he pretends to be evil to scare some thugs into going straight?

>>714153653
>Punisher
Netflix butchered him by giving him PTSD and have him pose moral arguments when he's an inhuman murder machine.

>>714154614

>>714135940
>he never played city of heroes growing up

>>714154663

>>714154730

>>714154781

>>714153291
>There is no poorfag superhero
Nice b8.

>>714154239
Meaning we'll be heading to back into a culture where media featuring vigilantes will be what's hot once again.

>>714154614
>Netflix butchered him by giving him PTSD
He pretty much always had it. Before sliding timescale turned him into a middle east vet Frank served in Vietnam and basically took the trauma he got from fighting there to his fight against crooks in NYC.

>>714153291
There are plenty, even one that's a /pol/fag-tier conspiracy theorist.

>>714154543
>A soldier would not constantly act alone to the point it impedes his allies' progress.
He's the Ultimate Lifeform, he can handle it.

>>714155045
That's my point. Frank doesn't have trauma. It takes a while for him to admit that he's just using the death of his family to kill people because he enjoys doing it.

>>714155060
>He's the Ultimate Lifeform, he can--ACK!!!!

*PTOOOH*

>>714155127
>Frank doesn't have trauma.
The man never left the jungle. He just stopped thinking about it until his family died. The man is basically Rambo First Blood, just replace cops with crooks.

>>714155234
That was just Ian being spiteful because Shadow stole Knuckles' thunder. Dude was gonna have him take the rings off and eat shit but SEGA told him no.

>>714155234
>IDW
>Ian Flynn
>Proof of anything

>>714155315
Rambo actually breaks down because he has PTSD in the first film. Frank behaves more like a robot like the Terminator. Barracuda is more "human" than he is.

>>714155419
Current MAIN WRITER of the comics AND the games. What he writes IS canon. Your cope will NOT change that.

>>714133183 (OP)
I wholly dislike superman because hes a fucking jewish power fantasy. If it's supes I recommend you check out superman vs meshi. It's actually great.

>>714133720
dont forget the alternative jew who is actually gilbert godfreed from the 7th dimension

>>714155730

>>714155781

>>714153653
Nah, Punisher is definitely a poorfag. He's poor because he's black.

>>714155828

>>714155730
>when you're deconstructing superman you're LITERALLY KILLING MY DREAMS
I wish Joe Kelly would get off his high horse and go back to writing about moms dying of ligma.

>>714155885

>>714155519
Nothing Colors onwards has been canon and your cope can't change that.

>>714155892
What's so funny about Truth, Justice, and the American Way?

>>714155973
>nothing since 2010 is canon
WHEW, and you talk to others about coping?

The idea that that Superman’s power set is some sort of hurdle for a game belies a simple lack of imagination. Just because he can’t be hurt by most things shouldn’t interfere in the slightest. In the context of the game he can still FAIL. There is also an entire interesting rainbow of Kryptonite that could affect him. Hurt him, take away his powers, alter his mental state and make him act unpredictable or alter his shape. One that would cause permadeath and/or erase the game save.
Shit Pink-K canonically turned him queer.
Game devs love that shit just look at Suicide Squad.
You could have the story be Lex and a Cabal of Superman villains are flooding Metropolis with these kryptonite weapons
And there’s billion dollar bounty on his head. Or he’s framed and on the run and regular law enforcement is after him. There’s a million things to do. If all you want is a Rocksteady Arkham Metropolis
Game where he’s beating up endless mooks. That seems like the least interesting way. The most interesting would be an All-Star Superman-esque game where he has 12 labors he has to complete and the stakes aren’t fighting until he dies, there’s no regular jabronies shooting K-bullets at him, rather there are these giant problems to solve that tax his abilities. Also At some level being Superman is a game of spinning plates. Can he save the space shuttle and answer Jimmy Olsens watch because he’s been turned into a turtle man and also Lois is falling from a building and there’s a building about to collapse in the Suicide Slums.

>>714155982
The Truth is that Superman fans are autistic fanatics. Justice should not be dictated by a comic. The American Way hasn't been right in decades.

>>714155519
>Current MAIN WRITER of the comics
Licensed comic.
>AND the games
Freelance writer working with stories already devised by Sonic Team. His job is to turn them into scripts. He is not staff. He is not a SEGA employee at all. He’s just some guy they hire because he's cheap.

>>714156018
Look at the sheer tonal change in that time period. It has NEVER gone back to how it was before, why should I consider anything afterwards canon as a legitimate fan of everything prior to that change?

>>714140231
DON'T YOU MEAN
GIVE ME A
BIZARRO GAME?

>>714156154
>why should I consider anything afterwards canon as a legitimate fan of everything prior to that change?
To separate yourself from the Penders and the Chandlers, I guess.

>>714156154
Because things change, even if for the worse. I prefer the classic shonen sensibilities to Flynn's horse show-tier writing too, but he made good additions that I'm glad he brought over and you have to remember he has to work within the current goals of the company, which is to push out a safe brand so they won't have another Sonic 06.

>>714140231
>>714156213
Don't give me a Bizarro game.
Me want have lots of DEI in game.
Goodbye.

I want a Superman adventure game, but everyone wants him punching shit instead.

>>714156454
Superman dating sim where every LI is an LL when?

Just make a linear Superman game. Copy God of War. Not every game needs a fucking open world. You can script segments/set pieces where the player flies around the universe without having to worry about making these areas fully explorable. Just focus more on just capturing the epic scale, sense of urgency and power. You could make a Superman themed Uncharted/God of War/Sony movie game on steroids.

For all the talks of the difficulty of making a Superman game, I think making an adequate Flash game is harder.

>>714156612
I would say go the Sonic route, but even that would be difficult and speed force bullshit like speed force swords breaks that.

>>714133720
>No Parasite, Zod or Toyman
Booooo

>>714156612
Because Flash represents the absolute dumbest retard takes in all of modern superhero design. And yes, I know Flash has existed for far longer. But current writers are not capable of making him interesting or giving him any limitations.

>>714156278
>Because things change, even if for the worse
Like Disney's Star Wars continuity, which most SW fans wouldn't consider "true canon" given that the EU exists.
>but he made good additions
And that's how I know you're a non-fan.

>>714133931
>Captain Marvel
He's so dogshit he doesn't even have his name anymore

>>714153903
Don't project onto me, characters that don't have flaws aren't characters at all, the most inspirational characters are the ones with flaws to overcome.
Sonic can't swim but he can run on water like it's nothing, he can hack Eggman tech it if he needs to while Tails isn't around, he can jump way higher than Amy can despite that being her gameplay gimmick, he can oneshot enemies that Knuckles can't in gameplay, Shadow still can't use the fake emerald for Chaos Control like Sonic can, he is complete bullshit and all the other characters suck him off for it.

>>714133720
I want to fuck livewire thoughbeit

>>714133183 (OP)
A Superman game would have to recontextualize its failure state to something besides reducing health to zero, maybe by having some kind of collatoral damage or public trust meter instead. Maybe there could be a challenge built around maintaining his secret identity. I don't think a big studio would want to make this kind of thing with the production values of something like the Arkham or Insomniac Spider-Man games, the marketing department would insist it doesn't hit the right demographics or whatever.

>>714136391
I'll never forgive Bruce Timm for this slander.

>>714156947
Why?

>Watch Batman TAS and Superman TAS
>Superman TAS is way better with consistency in episode quality
>Better drama
>Better finale

Why is Batman TAS considered the best show of DCAU?

>>714156612
I don't really know how well it'd work for a modern game simply because outside of the villainous speedsters, the rest of Barry/Wally's enemies just can't keep pace.

>>714157143
Bad timing.
Batman came out and blew every other cartoon on the air the fuck out. Superman came out in the middle of a cartoon renaissance and as anime was getting popular, and Pokemon took the world by storm right in the middle of its run.

>>714157052
Because she looks like a female freakazoid and I'm a lunatic

>>714157143
Because it actually won awards.
STAS got nominated for a lot, but nominations were as far as it got.

>>714157394
Freaka-who?

>>714157497
You might know him from the hit show about Candlejack, it was about their wacky adve

>>714157497
Freakame
Freakayou

>>714157320
Batman TAS has so many shit episodes and most of them are Joker episodes. Best episodes come from C tier villains which is quite ironic.

>Killer Croc
>Clock King
>Scarface
>Clayface

>>714157631
You're not wrong. I'm just saying, BTAS was way above its contemporaries. STAS was a better show, but it had less cultural relevance and wasn't as much of a slam dunk due to when it came out.

Same reason JLU is more well remembered then it: by that point the TV animation renaissance had ended and it was an incredible achievement as standards lowered once more.

>>714145315
The Rogues are great, but they got the wrong superhero.

>>714133183 (OP)
The thing is that the western devs today cant do games. For them its impossible to make a super man game.

DC should let Japan make a Super man game. The japanese already made a good and fun game with the DC super girls game on switch. That game is a hidden gem.

>2025
>Still no Batman Beyond vidya or even movie adaptation
>Michael Keaton still healthy enough to play old Bruce

Does DC hate Beyond or what?

>>714157497
Freakazoid
Chimpanzee

>>714158353
DC loves and hates Batman

Not a big Comic fag but the only comic characters I like are Older Spidey(I'm so fucking tired of le teenager meme), Batman and Spawn.
Superman only gets somewhat okay when he's on the opposite side, like against Batman or being ebin evil. Otherwise he's literally the most boring superhero.

>>714158353
A batman beyond game by the rocksteady that made the arkham games (not the suicide squad) would have been amazing

>>714158353
>Terry kills people as Batman
>Interracial relationship: Terry & Dana, WM/AF
>Derek Powers / Blight needs to be well established
>Jokerz is a cringfest gang, mocking the majority of DC fans

It's too weird for normies.

>>714135698
His dynamic with Superman is more interesting than Joker's dynamic with Batman. Luthor is an ass, but his interest isn't in petty crimes and murder. It's a clash of ideals against Clark. And that's fucking based.

DC lost to Simon btw

>>714133720
>Billionaire with head so far up his own ass he thinks he's the good guy
Kino
>Cyborg with heart of radioactive rock
Kino
>The Literal Personification Of All Evil, Final Boss Of The Entire Universe
Kino
>A blue girl with electric powers
Cute and kino
>A very large monkey with radiation powers
Based

>>714133837
>Oh he's literally god
Every cape and rogue is a literal god compared to a normal person. There's plenty of people who can take on Supes. Supes tends to win fights, even against stronger foes, because of experience, creativity, skill, grit and courage.

>>714159516
The fucker literally flies, is fucking invisible, can shoot lasers from his eyes, super fucking strong etc
In comparison Batman is just a strong guy with technology.

>>714154115
And one of these Supermen, Superboy Prime, is closer to being the "invincible God" that people tend to mistake Clark for. Clark is strong, but he's not even close to being a God by DC standards. Superboy Prime can fight on par with the Batman who Laughs, who is another character that mogs Clark.

>>714133183 (OP)
Blame the boring villains. They are unmemorable. Most people probably remember Superman more when he is with Batman.

>>714159735
>Clark is strong, but he's not even close to being a God by DC standards
He's a god by human standards. An invincible immortal god.

>>714159710
invisibility is the one power that he doesn't have.

>>714159735
Batman who laughs is not even strong as a person. I think he's much weaker than normal Batman.

>>714159912
I've seen the phone game ads.
Batman who laughs is a giant who flies around breathing kryptonite.

>>714159912
>Batman who laughs is not even strong as a person
He very much solod his universe's Justice League.
>I think he's much weaker than normal Batman.
He's every bit as strong and unfortunately much less predictable. It's why Batman went and teamed up with Joker to fight him.
And all of that was before he got his Dr. Manhattan power up.

>>714159835
>Can tank almost anything humans have
>not invincible
>but there's some green stone
Once again he's absolutely bonkers by human AND most of superhero standards.
Bruce would just die from a bullet to the head, Sups wouldn't even bat an eye.

>>714133183 (OP)
Superman is a shit hero who feels like a five year old made him in class, then the teacher forced him to give his epic OC a weakness so the kid chose green rocks or some shit.
Even those gay OP anime heroes who can infinity + 1 God himself have more depth to them than this shitlord. Also his villains suck. Batman may be a boring hero, but he has one hell of an opposition at least.

>>714133720
Wonder Woman is way worse, i dont know how a D tier character like Cheetah girl became her main antagonist

>>714160034
>Bruce would just die from a bullet to the head
>he doesn't know
Not even non-meta capes die to headshots anymore. Dick Grayson got shot in the head and all that did to him was give him a mild case of amnesia.

>>714139654
>Already mentioned how to make a good Super Man game before, follow the Superman Smashes the Klan playbook where he intentionally nerfs himself early on because he's a afraid of terrifying people.
Metroid Other M 2

We have the technology to create a video game with a comic book aesthetic but no one does it.
I just want a capeshit game that looks like it was drawn by Jack Kirby. Is that too much to ask for?

>>714159710
>In comparison Batman is just a strong guy with technology.
He hasn't been for some time now. Not since the whole Barbatos stuff.

>>714133183 (OP)
Stan Lee said Superman is fucking boring

>>714160437
It's realismslop or nothing pal

>>714160581
Stan Lee was a bitch

Why not get someone with experience doing games with OP playable characters like Platinum?

>>714152424
>nowadays powerscalers will force anyone on the internet to respect his outerversal powerlevel and other such gay shit
But powerscalers do this shit with any series. DragonBall Super, Kingdom Hearts, God of War, Castlevania, Devil May Cry, etc. Are all heavily wanked by powerscalers to the point where every major character in those series is multiverse buster including shit like Mike Wazowski from KH3. That's not even the worst part. Powerscalers think this NORMAL HUMAN from Danny Phantom is a multiverse buster.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tucker_Foley

For people to think Superman is too strong for vidya because some FAGGOT powerscalers say he's an multiverse buster isn't fair because powerscalers do this shit to damn near every fictional character. Btw Supes isn't even close to being a multiverse buster, and the WF feat doesn't count since the writers and editors have said that Supes didn't destroy a multiverse.

And he had outside help, Batman used his Final Suit to WARP REALITY and give Clark the buff he needed to knock down the World Forger. If anyone is an overpowered sue, it's Batman since he can give himself any power he wants with all the tech he has. And even the "Batman has no powers" narrative is bull since he's slightly lower than Captain America's level in physical stats AND HE KNOWS MAGIC. He simply hates using it. Prep time be damned. Prep time is just Batman figuring out a way to win while only using his utility belt, no magic and no killing. At his peak, Batman is Captain America, Reed Richards and Tony Stark combined with fucking magic. He's the tech equivalent of Doctor Strange. Batman in the comics is actually overpowered, yet nobody bats an eye when he gets nerfed for movies and video games. Yet Superman is too "overpowered" for vidya even though tons of animated series and movies proved that a nerfed Superman can work beautifully as long as he has the core Kryptonian powerset.

>>714160183
>Robin almost dies talking about fucking Napkin Man
Embarrassing.

>lost to Batman
>lost to Flash
>lost to bald man
>a-actually he was just "holding back" haha
Is he trying to copy Trails' Rean?

Would be cool if you had a totally overpowered Superman, but the real goal would be saving the day instead of just beating the bad guys. Like you need to save hostages, but you don't know where they are, so you use x-ray vision to find them. There is a guy with the bomb near them so you need to break into the room right above him to take him down instantly. Then you use super speed to take out hostages and etc. Kinda puzzle game or reverse hitman. Later levels would feature more complex situations like nuclear plant meltdown and more powerful enemies like cyborgs or aliens, Lex could put kryptonite in some areas that extremely nerfs you down and drain your health.

>>714160670
Stan Lee was right.
DC may have the more iconic heroes and villains, but Marvel doesn't have anything as lame as Superman.

>>714133837
Niggers are boring.

>>714155941
Kino, but I hate how his costume is fine in the last panel.

>>714161030
such a game is too complex for modern devs to design

>>714160978
What's embarrassing is that he only almost died from a completely unexpected headshot to an unarmored part of his body courtesy of KGBeast, who is supposed to be a professional assassin. There's no plot point later on to explain that Anatoly purposely didn't shoot to kill. He just fucking sucked at the one job he was hired to do.

>>714161030
Maybe even have the "saving the day" part be an aspect of bosses IE having to protect citizens while injuring a boss with you getting graded at the end of the fight for how you did like how many perople are safe?
The General Zod fight could even be about NOT having the fight end up like Man of Steel.

>>714159281
Depends on who's writing. Sometimes he's presented as a borderline antihero making hard choices when this godlike being descends from the sky and wags his finger at him. There's something fundamentally unfair about an invincible superman complaining when the common man has to get his hands dirty, and I like the idea of Lex being totally consumed by that.

Other times Lex is a heel as deep as the 40 cakes meme. And that's terrible.

>>714161121
Yeah, but I feel like it would be more interesting and fun to be creative with such power set instead of making it just about punching things and sometimes shooting with eye lazers.

>>714161047
>What are "Most recent Marvel characters? IE Kamala Khan, America Chavez, Ironheart, Gay Captain America, or Miles Morales (He's only good in the movies because he isn't forcibly upstaging Peter for the sake of diversity).
Not to mention Marvel being criticized for all the edgy shit in the 90s.

>>714161251
I don't know whether or not it's considered a hot take but I like Lex' current character development and the twist in his dynamic with Superman.

>>714161047
>but Marvel doesn't have anything as lame as Superman
*laughs in experimental internet gas*

>>714144685
He is bulletproof but isn't super heavy. That's why he ragdolls.

>>714161047
The depths of DC and Marvel are both lined with stinkers. And I contest that Spider-Man isn't as iconic as Batman. If they weren't, how come Shinobi fights both?

>>714148371
Sure, why not. Maybe ecks-com with super hero coat of paint, although that probably would've fit something like My Hero Academia more. X-Men probably would've been a decent fit, too.

>>714161021
>lost to Batman
Batman is overpowered and is fully capable of killing Superman. I doubt he even needs Kryptonite.
>lost to Flash
Barry is faster than Clark, and Wally is one of the most overpowered fictional characters ever. Anyone who think Supes is too strong for vidya would lose their shit if they found out about comics Wally. If Clark can't get a vidya because he's too strong, then Wally definitely doesn't deserve one.
>a-actually he was just "holding back" haha
Supes holds back to avoid death and collateral damage. But everyone in DC holds back to an extent.
>Is he trying to copy Trails' Rean?
No, current Supes is more like Spider-Man minus OMD. Bruce is DC's Rean.

>>714162040
>Maybe ecks-com with super hero coat of paint
Could have sworn that was what Midnight Suns was.

>>714162103
Oh, I forgot about Lex. Lex is Superman's rival, and he's as competent as Bruce while having less mental blocks. Lex getting wins over Supes every now and then isn't that crazy.

>>714162139
Looking at gameplay, it kinda is. But it's also a deck builder kind of game, for some reason.

>>714143104
How the fuck is Sonic on the Buddha's path?

>>714133183 (OP)
No, I'd love a game about Superman taking on the KKK, like he canonically did before. America could use someone to remind them of truth, justice, and the American way that Superman stands for.

>>714161047
Marvel has like 10 Superman knockoffs who are all lame and one has schizophrenia. Stan Lee also never created anything in his life. He was what AI shitters are to artists now but for comicbook integrity.

>>714160581
I'd rather listen to Kirby than Lee and Kirby liked Superman and understood him more than some writers did.

>>714133183 (OP)
Superman's powers are extremely inconsistent, depending on the author and artist.

>MOS superman

canonically one of the strongest in history, or it's also just Snyder finally giving a good sense of scale to superman fights.

>Electric superman

Pretty inconsistent feats across the boards because the stories had a more lighthearted tone

>1940 superman

One of the weakest but also most consistent

>Silver age

This one is tricky because he goes from carrying planets to being slapped around by weaker villains. Something that was even parodied by Alan Moore. So he's what people call a “toon force” character.

>Morrison Superman

Morrison + Quitley, a good writer and a great artist who can sketch Morrison's craziest ideas. He is in my opinion the strongest, but I haven't read all the Superman stories.

>>714167931
So he's alone in a world where everyone is alone? The horror.

>>714169226
fuck

>Superman
>Sperman
>Sperm
lol lmao

>>714169226
;_;

>>714168437
>canonically one of the strongest in history
>doesn't sneeze galaxies into ashes
>doesn't physics defyingly tug entire solar systems leashed together with gigantic chains
>doesn't even bench press the weight of the entire planet
Snyder's iteration is far from the strongest, let alone be one of them.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>714160183

I can top this

>>714170841
You have got to be fucking shitting me

>>714133183 (OP)
i genuinely never liked Superman
>super OP
>doesnt kill
its such a fucking boring and gay trope
there was a comic where batman gets his powers and just starts clearing shit up in the entire world
but somehow thats "bad"
i hate gay ass comics and capeshit so much because of that

>>714171248
Injustice is full of stupid, like Kyle getting drawn and quartered in space because somehow in the vast amount of nothing that he was flying through on his way back to Earth he didn't see Sinestro and his groupies coming to him.

>>714171248

Not even the craziest panel in that issue

>>714168437
Then there's the Injustice Superman whose team's super-pill project gets stolen and then gets his shit kicked in by Alfred.

>>714171248
Only really kept up with the first year but man it was some shit alright.

>>714171586
>>714171418
>>714170841
>>714171391

I legit hope NetherRealm is working on Injustice 3

>>714133183 (OP)
Nobody wants another gay "hero" that hates America. Maybe if they retcon everything they did post 2010.

>>714171280
Not going for the kill makes sense against well-written villain of the week characters imo. Not to say characters like Mr. Freeze and The Joker haven't had excellent runs, but it's obvious they are only kept alive in the modern day for marketing reasons.

I like Red Son.

>>714171586
>>714171845
What's Alfred's deal? All Supes did was kill the Joker

>>714171846
>hates America
Superman doesn't hate America. DC just changed his tagline because a global do gooder fucking off to a foreign country to fight for "the American way" is invader as fuck.

>>714133720

I'm really excited for Gunn's Superman

>>714171907
>but it's obvious they are only kept alive in the modern day for marketing reasons
and thats another reason why capeshit sucks

>>714133183 (OP)

DC characters in general are too unrealistic because they are so over powered. Its the reason why only Batman games have been successful, their core roster is just unreasonable when you consider how to structure game play around them.

The Flash is so fast he destroys any consideration of racing structure or game play structure without incoherently blinding or confusing the player, the Green Lantern's basic asset creativity due to how his powers work is unreasonable if you consider general game play not to mention constantly adding new concepts and shapes for him to project, Wonder Woman is similar to Superman in how over powered she should be in comparison to general game play and enemies around her. It just goes on and on how over powered they are.

DC's problem is DC. It always has and always will be. It needs good writers to effectively stand out at the end of the day and it had those in the past, but now they're long gone thanks to WB owning the brand.

Marvel characters work because they're flawed, they aren't perfect. Iron Man is still just a rich guy in a suit, Cap America is defined by patriotism and political ups and downs, Spider-Man is ultimately Spider-Man and is proven enough massively fun to play as, Punisher is just a guy with a gun killing bad guys, Hulk constantly is fighting with himself in a psychological identity battle, Wolverine is just some guy with metal claws a good sense of smell to track characters and a regenerative physiology.

I can think of dozens of scenarios alone i could structure or conceptualize around the latter's characters very easily. I would have to actually think to consider DC's side of that argument because the characters are so overwhelming and basic.

>>714172003
But going to pride parades with his boyfriend flying the rainbow flag is totally fine? He's not even a global hero. In fact, since they made him gay, and hate America he's literally not been in any foriegn country. They made Asgard into fucking Gary Indiana they are so afraid of Superman being somewhere other than America.

>>714171997
This was after he almost killed Hal and made an enemy out of the US government.

When did Superman become a god fighting universal threats? Because didn't he start out fighting random basic goons like bank robbers back in the 40s?

>>714172343
Anon, his son is the gay one.
Superman is straight and the most deviant that he gets is that him and Lois get into kinky slave gladiator roleplay sex.

>>714172272
You have never read a single comic book in your life.
Stop talking about characters, DC or Marvel, that you absorbed through pure cultural osmosis.

>>714160024
>He very much solod his universe's Justice League.
only with Barbatos help

>>714144834
based

I recommend the STAS comics, there's a stretch of boting issues towards the middle but first couple issues and the last stretch are Godlike. People always say Clark is boring but these comics made me realize a well written Supes will have many emotional responses and faces to his personality, like a normal guy.

>>714133183 (OP)
I dont want to play as Superman because he looks stupid. Dante, Kratos and Goku are cool.

>>714172659
Barbatos didn't approach him to fuck up other earths until afterwards, after he got his costume change.

>>714172875
Yeah, if you're a Mexican.

>>714172802
Goddamn capeshitfaggots are the worst posters on the entire internet.

>>714133183 (OP)
>capeshit cucks

>>714133837
Here's Superman getting his ass handed to him by Helspont.
Superman has been literally beaten to death.

>>714172914
>all that text condensed into one single comic page
Fuck, western comics are genuine garbage. Capeshit fans have 0 standards.

>>714172914
I'm surprised none of the other Batkeks have gotten side stories

>>714157631
>Scarface
The last stretch of "Read my Lips" is some of my favourite animated TV ever produced. Flawless third act, incredible episode, perfect music, good TMS animation, GOD TIER voice acting for the fucked up situation that is occurring. Just some of the best Batman ever.

I feel visceral disgust toward old IP.
I'm sick of shit being dragged out of the closet yet again.
I want new things, even if they're worse than old things, I don't want to see the same characters I knew as a kid for the rest of my life.

>>714144834
How were the dogs driving the car?

>>714134289
>>714142610
Just specifically Superman? Batman and Spiderman were also created by jews. All capeshit is jewish.

>>714172950
Okay.

>>714171845
Wasn't that what MK1 was suspected to be or some shit? At least the kameos and choice of guests would've made more sense within Injustice

>>714133183 (OP)
WB would rather spend 100 million on a Wonder Woman game that never comes out.

>>714173298
>WB would rather spend 100 million on a Wonder Woman game that never comes out
pure money laundering
fuck those niggas still

>>714172343
And? Superman was always the inclusive hero.
His writers flat out called " one race, one religion" unamerican bigotry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FllZDPpq1aw
SuperKino, amirite?

>>714153935
>and also because cops idolise him
kek what

>>714173212
>All capesheroes is jewish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v4cDr0ScSs

>>714173758
yes, some cops are so retarded that they idolize the Punisher because he kills criminals, that's it, most have no clue that he actively kills corrupt cops all the time, my local PD had the ban their officers from having punisher skulls on their gear

>>714173113
They did. The backstories are in various Dark Knights tie ins.
You see notflash in Batman : The Red Death
Notlantern in Batman : The Dawnbreaker
Notcyborg in Batman : The Murdermachine
Notaquaman in Batman : The Drowned
Notdoomsday in Batman : The Devastator
And notares in Batman : The Merciless

>>714133183 (OP)
People who post that shit are just parroting something they saw someone else say.

>>714133720
>The Literal Personification Of All Evil, Final Boss Of The Entire Universe
Superman doesn't fight Trigon.

>>714173692
I wish they both pissed on me

>>714174363
C'mon son, superman solos trigon without even trying

>>714171586
Time to end the thread in a high note

>>714174363
Trigon is explicitly just a demon. Darkseid is a god. A god not from any of our various pantheons in real life but a made up one by Jack Kirby, but a god nonetheless.

>>714174097
I meant more expansion on them like Saint Batman

>>714156612
Just make it a god sim game.

>>714172462
They haven't had Superman as the lead of a superman comic since 2023. Gay Superman has taken over as Superman. We only get a sanitized version that hates America, and is super gay still in "Dawn of DC" flashback comics. Superman can't even be in Superman comics unless he's going to get beat up to show how cool new gay superman is.

>>714173527
No, dipshit he was not gay. They made Batman jewish in 2016 you fucking retard. This is all retcons. He was beating up Joker as the Iranian ambassador you fucking dipshit.

>>714174910
This is such a good fucking series

>>714175113
>Saint Batman
That's not batkek OC like the ones previously mentioned though, it's a "what if x DC event got a bad end" character, in this particular case it's what if Bruce lost to Azrael.

>>714159748
Then make up a new original villain. He's a fictional character writers can do whatever they want with him and his world. It's not like there's a law that says you can only use characters created 50 years ago by some old jew.

>>714155730
>>714155781
>>714155828
>>714155885
>>714155941
For me this is one of the biggest examples of how retarded Superman fans are. A guy makes a comic indirectly cruising how silly the principles of superman are in the real world... then another makes a comic with a very direct parody of it, in the spirit of "Might doesn't make it right", except all it does is have Superman solve the "issue" with a display of his might, the underlying issues of his principles never been addressed in a rational sense. But to superman fans that only care about how it makes them feel and their ability to ignore any rational implication, it doesn't matter. Oh well. Then later they get stuff like >>714145867

>>714175249
The fuck meth are you on? 2023 is the start of the current Superman run where Clark is the lead character and Lex gives him Supercorp to go and use its assets to help him with his day to day heroics. Clark was also the main character of the previous run that started in 2018.
And if we add Action comics to this list Clark has been the Superman of that series too, barring a brief moment around 2016 where he had to share that name with Lex.

>>714175249
Irrelevant to my point Superman was always inclusive and Superman would condemn the unamerican bigotry of the current regime.

>>714175750
>xcept all it does is have Superman solve the "issue" with a display of his might
To which Manchester throws a tantrum and cries about how this isn't right.

>>714176191
Yes? Manchester in this case is just a parody of another character being written by another author, being completely trivial to ridicule. That is why I pointed the irony of what superman's own writters did to him later, not in a parody.

>>714176376
You complained that in the spirit of "might doesn't make it right" it was all solved by Superman displaying his might.
I pointed out that Black bitching about how wrong it all is reinforces the statement, might indeed did not make it right.

I've seen a lot of nuanced and well thought-out takes in this thread but since I personally don't like Superman I'm going to disregard all of them and say a Superman game wouldn't work.

>>714154882
I mean, look at what happened when that italian fella sent that ceo into his final pasta journey. Media had to twist itself into knots to hide how supportive of it everyone had been.

>>714172272

Hilariously right. The problem effectively stops and starts with the design of DC characters themselves.

And its all decisions made decades ago that can't be altered due to brand recognition and history now.

>>714176574
But the problem is that original comic that inspired the parody, in the works of Warren Ellis, was never about simply "Might makes right", despite that being what was criticized. It was about the importance of making things right, even if it meant using might, about the importance of solving the issues, of dealing with international conflicts and be willing to make sacrifices, in contrast to Superman that mostly only tries to "inspire" people and deal with otherworldly threats, and almost never being willing to make sacrifices. (Outside of alternative universes, where ironically, when he is portrayed as making those things, despite showing him as a villain, the writers constantly show that the methods work, like in the Lords of Justice version, or Injustice, among others).

>>714133183 (OP)
SUPERMAN: Eclipse
>Superman defeated by Brainiac in opening with kryptonite bullshit
>He builds a Dyson sphere around the sun while Superman is trapped and incapacitated
>World now in a dark ice age loses faith in Superman and blames him for Brainiac showing up in the first place
>Wake up in a kryptonite cell and muster up just enough strength to escape
>Superman is weak because of no sun + kryptonite
>Battle your way through Brainiacs army gradually getting strong from sun energy caches leveling up
>Game ends with Dyson sphere disabled, sun and Superman back at full strength
>God mode simulator where you wreck Brainiacs shit and save the world
>Faith restored in Superman and you now unlock God mode free roam under a bright sunny sky

>a Superman game wouldn't work, he's too powerful!
>b-b-b-but Goku would TOTALLY beat Superman, I swear!

>>714176123
I mean, there's being inclusive and then there's being "I demand special treatment because I'm not like anybody else". Superman would tell most alphabet movement faggots to stop being cunts and enjoy that they are now treated equally and go back to being proper human beings.

>>714178056
Nah, Sups would tell you to knock off your strawmen attacks and be a better person.

>>714174049
>my local PD had the ban their officers from having punisher skulls on their gear
Fucking lame.

>>714174049
>my local PD had the ban their officers from having punisher skulls on their gear
Thank fuck, I'm tired of Punisher being associated with fat retards.

>>714178489
Says the gangly nerd.

>>714179070
Sensing some projection.

>>714140983
Naw he gets beat up here and there in his stories.

>>714173070
what's wrong with text? Are you too retarded to read? You just want to see images flashing before your eyes, no text at all, the medium isn't for you. Try movies instead.

>>714135940
You haven't played any of the good ones.

>>714180402
>335.7 hours
>99/709 achievements
How do you not even accidentally get more achievements than that after that much time?

>>714178350
>>714178056

>>714180776
The game came out in 2009
I played it way back in the day and forgot my previous account's login credentials, so I had to create a new account in 2022
I can't recall if it even had achievements back then. And also, at least 100 hours was spent in character creator. The game has incredibly good character creator and once you unlock more bits and pieces, it gives even more customization potential. Also if you unlock new superpower archetypes, this incentivizes making new heroes and concepts.

>>714178056
If Superman saw a gay or tranny trying to indoctrinate kids or molest them he would arrest them. He doesnt care if they wanna live their lives and be freaks in their own privacy.

>>714133183 (OP)
superman is the most brainwashed nd boring hero(enabler) of all time. that's the real reason why no one has ever bothered making a superman game.

>>714181609
not according to dc. they're 100 percent onboard the blackcock train.

>>714181260
lol. 100 percent written by a fucking kike. anyone who uses the word melting pot seriously is either a kike or a self-hating brainwashed european.

>>714177150
>Might makes right", despite that being what was criticized. It was about the importance of making things right, even if it meant using might
so might makes right, then..

>>714144685
Superman from the DCAU is weak

>>714137518
Don't forget...

>be one of the biggest IP holders in the world
>Make a Smash style Free to Play game
>bungle it so fucking bad that it dies twice

>>714178350
You are not entitled to complex endocrine treatments and surgical procedures if your body is in good health, the same way women that want bigger tits are not entitled to free boobjobs and the same way men that hate their jaws are not entitled to free orthogantic surgery.