So is he just lying about deltarune not having multiple endings?
>>714174469 (OP)Would toby even lie to you?
He's not lying. He's just not telling the truth.
>>714174469 (OP)Making it seem like there's only one ending plays into the game's story.
>>714174469 (OP)Yes, no matter what, deltarune ends with some kind of fulfillment of the prophecy. But reaching the end isnt the most important part, it's making every girl in hometown fat as hell.
>>714174532HE DID THE EXACT SAME SHIT WITH UNDERTALE
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1002143342/undertale/posts/1087879
>Today, final-boss "ASGORE" was finished. After "ASGORE" is defeated, "UNDERTALE" ends. And then...>...>...YES HE IS BEING A SNEAKY FUCKER WHEN HE SAYS THERE IS "... only 1 ending...?"
>>714174469 (OP)Me only cares about Spamton
>>714176484OK I also care about making girls fat
i wish deltarune wasn't so meta. he already did it with undertale
It's true because the point wss the never to challenge the prophecy, it was to have Susie grow a soul as to finally create the monster with Determination Gaster and Alphys wanted so much in UT.
If the player have a DT save with Susie having determination on it after ch7, Gaster will invite you to another game that will only be playable by moving that save into the new game's folder.
>>714176898I'm still mad we'll never see her and her sister in the dark world :o( she reminds me of my ex
Suzie is the main character and the events of Deltarune are on a loop because Suzie wants her adventures to go on forever. Some characters are aware of this and are trying to break free/subvert the prophecy.
Screencap this post.
>>714174469 (OP)"Deltarune" only has 1 ending during chapter 6, but the follow up chapter 7 can be changed between Undertale, Unaltered, or Unrelated
>Deltarune will only have 7 chapters
>datamined spots for โchapter 9โ and โchapter 0โ
What do you think nigga?
I haven't gotten around to play chapters 2-4 is the Kris is chara theory still going strong.
>>714183870Kris is not Chara
>>714174469 (OP)it's simple, everyone dies at the end. in the normal route everyone has to die to fulfill the prophecy, in the weird route you kill everyone.
how you get to that point may vary, but it ends the same way regardless.
Chapter 4 made it seem pretty obvious. There's only one "ending". So the other choice is that the story doesn't "end".
>>714174532Don't believe his lies
>>714174469 (OP)It has multiple endings like a visual novel. You need to see all the other endings to unlock the real ending, or at least get full context of all the endings.
Undertale has a ton of endings, but only one real ending with 2 variations to it.
Why are people acting like Deltarune isn't the flop of the decade? 13k players? lmao. It's done. "Cooked", as the retarded children of today would say.
>>714174469 (OP)It always ends with the player turning the game off but the context for that will be different
>>714184832>13kisn't that still half a million dollars?
most people won't make that much working over a decade
>>714182645i've heard someone say it's normal for those to be there for testing purposes but I'm not really sure.
>>714185039dont bite lol
>>714185234This is true but iirc some of those extra chapters have bespoke intro graphics with no other reason to exist
My schizo theory is that there'll be a flashback "chapter" going over what happened with Dess, and the game breaking nature of the snowgrave route will culminate in you being able to load unintended items into new saves in earlier completed chapters to change how otherwise set in stone parts of the prophecy play out
>>714184316You are certain of this. If Toby said Kris is not Chara I would trust that as much as when druckman said Joel doesn't die in TLoU 2
>>714174469 (OP)if you didn't notice the "only 1 ending" thing is probably in-universe, since it's a thing mentioned in chapter 4
>>714179682I feel like her sister HAS to be important later, right? All that stuff about Susie and protecting Noelle...
the true ending will have you replay undertale when toby has the games read each others save files.
>>714183870>>714184316>>714186565chara is the rapebaby kris put inside noelle
>>714183870Chara isn't in the game at all
>>714190802but chapter 2 genocide route?
>>714192431Nothing to do with Chara, it's not even a real genocide route since you don't have to kill everything you see.
Would you play this Fun Gang?
>>714186706No, retard. Catti got so completely shut down in chapter 4 that even her threat of not talking to you anymore is overridden by fucking JOCKINGTON. She didn't protect Noelle. She never will. Susie won. Toby won. Get over it.
>>714183870Kris is actively working against (You) heโs not a ride or die nigga like Chara
>>714192431There is no genocide route.
>>714186706Yeah it would be really weird for her character to not amount to anything. No that doesn't mean she's a party member or if she'll even end up in a dark world. But something is going to come of her.
>>714193160quirky subversion red herrings etc
>>714174469 (OP)Somewhat. Weird Route will totally have a new ending.
>>714193160Catti will show up in the chapter where a Dark World takes over the whole town (the festival?). She'll be curled in a corner somewhere, completely terrified and unable to even move in the face of monsters and darkness as Kris and Susie walk by in their cool armor slaying fetal Titans. The ultimate character assassi- er, dramatic irony. Did you enjoy? (laugh)
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>>714192231I'm being serious.
https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:Undertale
>>714174469 (OP)There's only 1 ending. Like Undertale has only one ending and the multiple paths all loop back to Soulles Hero.
>>714193703I came straight in my pants (coming)
>>714186706Irrelevant according to the order list.
>>714194006Still no idea where this comes from
>>714193000This. Kris isn't as based as my human wives.
>>714192872are monsters aware they are called monsters?
>>714174469 (OP)you're a dumbass
>>714193975COMING STRAIGHT FROM (YOU)R PANTS
>>714193791to whomever it may concern DO NOT CLICK THAT LINK DIRECTLY. tcrf.net added something that sees you clicked on the link from 4chan and it bans you from being able to access the website forever. you have been warned
i love my pet HERO_SWORD!
>>714174469 (OP)He's gonna pull a
>le your choice doesn't even matterand put a forced 4th wall breaking ending
>>714194202lol what? Why are they doing this?
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Asgore fucks THAT? https://files.catbox.moe/hv0p9h.jpg
>>714192919>>714193259>>714193490>>714194006why does catti make this poster so ass blasted every hour of the day?
>>714194058i think it's the list of names that get a reaction out of the Voice in goner creator
>>714194274LMAO
>>714194274imagine the grass you could cut with him
>>714174469 (OP)>Well...from a certain point of view
>>714194202*clicking intensifies*
>>714174469 (OP)It has a question mark, it doesn't deny or confirm wether it has one ending or not
Then the game has you "accept everything" so that you can't sue
>>714194346I'm talking about specific order, in terms of supposed importance
>>714194058Text dump order.
https://hushbugger.github.io/deltarune/text/?chap=1#1_DEVICE_CONTACT
>>714194402grass? like in drugs?
>>714194274tainted lilith reference
>>714194508do not smoke lawn clippings
What's inside the Bunker?
>>714194006Why is Gerson so low? He's already more important than half the names on this list.
>>714193791Frisk is a slut, damn.
>>714194274He's dead on my playthrough, what could the choice of letting him live imply for the future?
>>714174469 (OP)He said "and....only one ending...?" not "ONLY ONE ENDING!". Biiiiiig difference.
>>714194304To make a long story short, tcrf added pride flags to their logo last month. Some of their contributors did not like this. Those contributors were banned, and the site's owners took it upon themselves to also ban people from kiwifarms and 4chan while they were at it.
>>714194615How do you kill him?
>>714194341no one really cares about her, chapter 4 introduced a much stronger "person who hates susie" character with Carol. some people are just irked because toby kept bringing her up again and again even in Noelle's blog like a week before the chapters dropped and all if it was for jack shit so they're upset they thought someone who isn't Very Special would do anything
one more subverison from Toby Fox, King of Herrings
>>714194694Unplugging the controller
I can't remember what I did.
>>714194673...you're telling me
>>714194202 is not kidding?
>>714177989Jews are incapable of making anything sincere, they can only subvert and deconstruct.
>>714194202Works on my machine.
>>714194704you still didn't answer why you're so personally ass blasted by catti any time she's ever brought up
>>714194304They claim that it's to do with AI scraping the website, and a DDOS atrack.
>>714194673How does that even work? How can it knows? That sound stupid as hell like some conspiracy story
>>714194778No, it's not a joke.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/video-game-wiki-the-cutting-room-floor-targeted-by-harassment-group-unknown-amount-of-user-passwords-leaked.672167/
>In response to the hack, The Cutting Room Floor banned compromised accounts and blocked all incoming traffic, not only from Basedjak Party, but also from Kiwifarms and 4chan, sites where the raid was being discussed and facilitated, though it's unknown if any hacked credentials were posted there. If you visit a TCRF.net link via Basedjak Party, Kiwifarms or 4chan, your IP will be permanently banned from accessing the website, leaving a blunt message telling the user to kill themselves. This was later replaced with a less blunt message, before being ultimately replaced with a redirect to banned.ytmnd.com.
>>714194861I suppose they check your cookies
>>714194694If tell Susie you're not enjoying the game she unplugs it causing him to die
During your dialogue with Susie you can control him so if you keep him on-screen when you make that choice you can see him getting blown up
>>714194704I think it stems from people assuming that all the kids in Kris's class would enter the Dark World at least once, since Berdly and Noelle were able to enter it in Chapter 2.
I personally don't mind because it lets Toby focus more on the main three characters. I don't think the character moments would've been as strong if they were diluted by Catti, Monsterkid and Snowdrake shenanigans.
>>714194814i hate fat people
>>714194919then why can i click that link and not get banned retard
>>714194980I told her i didin't enjoy it and never realised he fucking died, just thought the console shut off
>>714194314tits way too full
>>714194919So this is the tolerant left I've heard about
>>714194314Asgore fucks this. Or he did.
>>714195083idk bro i'm just telling you what i was told. Better to be safe than sorry
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>>714195030Hopefully yes now that Toby realised that people actually like him
He is comically bad at predicting general reactions towards characters, pic very related
>>714174469 (OP)Considering the game seems to be about fate, I'm guessing the "There's only one ending...?" is a cheeky reference towards that. Like yeah the ending of the prophecy is set in stone, but everything that surrounds that ending, including what can come after, is in flux
>>714192872There is a 50% chance these are the actual heroes of the prophecy.
The first hero is obviously being set up to not be Kris, it's probably the vessel you make at the beginning of the game.
The second hero is Noelle, not Susie. Susie is the dragon in LotH/DB, who in the original prophecy is "and then there was the girl/at last, there was the girl," who is separate from the second hero.
The third hero is the lonely prince, who still doesn't look like Ralsei. It made sense for Ralsei's summary to obfuscate his appearance since we still hadn't seen what he looked like yet, but Toby's still doing it, which means it isn't Ralsei. It's some other dark prince and Lancer's our only candidate at the moment.
But I'd rather play a party of schizobosses.
>>714174469 (OP)My opinion: He's desperately trying to cover his tracks for what he said in Deltarune chapter 1. The game was never meant to be this ambitious.
>But you can technically get a better ending if you spare everyone in chapter 1That hardly changes anything though. Consequences in later chapters are much more pronounced.
>>714194861>>714194958Websites can see where inbound traffic comes from.
>>714194606He's dead and in only one chapter.
>>714194919Why are leftists so mentally ill and full of pent up aggression?
>>714194814I just want other anons to stop their possible delusions, keep their expectations low, and understand that this is Susierune.
>>714195083I don't think they can track you if you open a new tab and paste it into the browser. If it was embedded here and you clicked it, then you'll be banned.
>>714174469 (OP)It's gonna be a time travel story where you get the bad ending but then you LOAD and make Kris do something else to get the true ending
>>714195303The "one ending" is the credits.
>>714195315I'd give Toby all my money for playable Lancer.
>>714194919which is ironic because xkeeper is one of the biggest deltarune autists on earth
>>714195367This game is his dream project that he was planning to make before even Undertale, it was very much meant to be this ambitious
>>714192872>>714195315Before Chapters 3 and 4 I would've agreed that Lancer is the prince.
Him basically doing nothing in 3 and being nonexistent in 4 though is really making me doubt that though. You'd think he'd be building up Lancer a bit by now if he was meant to be a big deal
>>714195286How did Toby predicted them?
>>714195386So you're correlating importance with screen time?
>>714195408I don't believe this to be the case at all, Susie is one part of a greater whole that will converge later
After what was done with Undertale, and seeing where things are going, I'm expecting something far grander than some simple hero story
>>714195006>I think it stems from people assuming that all the kids in Kris's class would enter the Dark World at least once, since Berdly and Noelle were able to enter it in Chapter 2.Were people really that unable to pick up on basic narrative focus? I only held a reservation for Catti possibly getting in because she had a dialogue portrait.
>>714194861Your browser tells websites information about where you came from. Not a conspiracy or anything, it's just how it works
>>714195557He thought they would be the next big thing and that everyone would love them and flood social media with fanart of them, he basically expected Deltarune's very own Muffet since they're also guest characters
He was obviously completely fucking wrong which is even funnier when you go through chapter 2 again and notice how forced they are and how much screentime they get
>>714194919>leaves a kys message but immediately backtracks itlol what a bunch of pussies
>>714195286If theres some sort of large scale Dark World enveloping the town you can bet youยดre gonna see the Ghosts and Tenna holding the line at their house if you handed him over.
>>714194861is the average user unaware of the existence of Referer headers?
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>>714194919>>714195479>Hilariously immature by Xkeeper. Yeah, complaining about prideflags is S for Sucks, but to not only go to ban them, edit their page, and also actively browse KF then ban said users from the same site you yourself browse is funny as hell.my fucking sides holy shit
>>714195483Chapter 1 is far simpler than the later chapters, and more rough around the edges. Recruiting, breaking bonds to get stronger, the mercy bar that you have to fill up rather than just saying one nice thing to instantly max out someone's mercy, the old weird "target" mechanic where enemies told you who they were attacking that got removed because it didn't matter, he definitely learned a lot over time and expanded the scope
>>714195732They have their bossfight, show up later to be shopkeepers and then appear later alongside a ton of other characters in a montage. You don't know what "forced" means
>>714194919>Firefox cucks these clowns by defaultI will never use Chrome, Opera, or your shitty meme browser
>>714195916They show up all throughout the level and are one of the first things you see when entering the cyber world
>>714194314>>714195256https://files.catbox.moe/kya924.png
>>714195417but you can't embed links on 4chan
>>714195758terry davis is burning in hell fuck that christcuck ape
>>714193791>>714194608Frisk "befriends" all the monsters
All of a sudden the way you manage to get everyone to stand down is making a lot more sense
>>714196019The first character you meet is Queen. They're literally just recurring NPCs; they are a minor setback and then fall back to the shopkeeper role for the rest of the chapter, and they don't show up at all for Queen's palace until the end montage and that has everyone. Mr Hacker has around the same number of later appearances, even.
>>714196237Why did that cuck Toby censor the scene where Frisk gives Froggit a handjob as an introduction to the mercy mechanic?
Asgore is going to fucking die, isn't he?
>Beat up character who gets shat on by the universe
>Gets his moment, gets his shit together, will make a point to continue despite life's struggles
>Killed
Seen this too offten.
>>714193791Iโd like to use shrink on myself then offer Toriel a foot massage haha
>>714195596It's both screentime and narrative importance. Like Toriel being extremely important in 3 and 4 because she's the main motivation of the cast.
>>714196356Toby hates him so yes
BTW Gerson's whole speech about irony being the death of art will only get more ironic the longer the game goes on
>>714196356Big guys gonna encounter Carol and her Katanas.
>>714196484Coincidences, not an actual leak
>>714174469 (OP)The story is meant to have only one ending. That's how the Prophecy goes.
But we're going to find ways around it. I expect 4 at least:
>1. Weird Route - We're making Noelle stronger so she can become The Angel and take our place in the Prophecy, so she'll get banished and we get to keep palying>2. Kindness - We've had multiple times now where being kind enough to all leads to more positive outcomes. Ralsei's hope that niceness could change something may end up being true right at the end>3. Shadow Crystals - They're all about trying to find FREEDOM. The result will probably be some freedom from the storyline but also derailing more things.>4. Twisted Sword - Literally going "between the lines" of Weird Route and the Shadow Crystal stuff, getting a weapon that may be able to let the heroes break free and make their own ending even without us.
>>714196356Asgore isn't shat on by the universe. If anything the universe is constantly offering him freebies despite his retarded behaviour with Carol simply chastising him for giving flowers away instead of selling them instead of calling overdue rent, Toriel patiently tolerating his shit instead of doing anything about him stalking her and Sans just going "ok" to a random guy he never met asking him if he can get his wife back one day out of nowhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ8A63GHLvY
>>714196602>angels, green soul, among us sus reference>coincidencebruh
>>714196484>Chess theoryCan't believe people thought this was a thing.
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>>714196356Asgore will either get a complete redemption and absolute E N T E R moment where he reminds everyone that he is the most powerful monster in the underground and was holding back because he despised violence or he will just be the butt of more shitty jokes cause Tobias did not have a good relationship with his father
>>714196793>Tobias did not have a good relationship with his fatherreally?
>>714196356Getting "asylum" doesn't involve death
At worst he'll be "exiled" from town but will just live in castle town instead and Kris will have to bring him real food and water so his body doesn't die
>>714196356I think it's more likely that Rudy will die, and they seem to have story together, so he should be kept alive for maximum misery
>>714196841It's a joke but considering the shit he gives to the only father figure in his games multiple times it's kind of suspect
>>714196650Pacifism is 100% going to result in the prophecy going exactly as planned and won't be the way to get the true ending which is going to piss off the pacifist purists.
Twisted sword is how we twist fate
>>714196861"flower king trapped in aslyum" most likely refers to Asgore's CURRENT circumstances where he both refuses to let go of his nostalgia and is living off Carol's mercy.
>>714196484>noelle talks about jumping out the ferris wheel and gaining wings in Chapter 2>Noelle might actually jump out the ferris wheel if you push her too hard in Chapter 5 which forcfully aborts Snowgrave
>>714196734Amogus was new when that pic was created and we knew we were going to the church sooner or latter. The fried fish on chapter 3 is alone to tell you that pic just got lucky on 4.
>>714174469 (OP)There's litterly a "...?" after it. From the start it's clear there will be more than one but now it's beyond obvious. I think it's meant to be a cute refrence to the prophesy
>>714196535Asgore is the size of a fucking polar bear if he actually got into the right headspace he would snap her in two like a toothpick
>>714196237>>714196353Damn. That Whoriel poster needs to move over. Torielโs adoptive daughter surpassed her.
>>714196960>the route where the prophecy is all but said to be capital F Fucked >not the "get Noelle (the girl) back in the team" route
>>714197020Toby is not making a high school girl commit suicide in his funny tumblr game
If I have to use this cage, it'll be for one thing....
Kris watched Dess drown in the ocean. Kris wishes he was underwater, drowning with Dess, hence why he's blue
>>714197061I would bet on a teenager with a sword over an unarmed weightlifter 10 times out of 10
If I was Reid from fangamer I'd kill my so called friend after he made the character based on me the biggest most pathetic cuck in the universe.
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>>714197020Maybe she won't die
Maybe she'll just become paralyzed and we bring her into the dark world and heal her
Or maybe we don't heal her but she gets her wings only in the dark world. All of a sudden, the dark world is the only escape for her. The idea isn't unprecedented after all
Imagine if the plot with Dess genuinely was just Omori's twist and Toby is panicking and shitting as he hastily rewrites everything
>>714197215But anon. Asgore is actually really likeable to a lot of people in and out of universe.
>>714197129he's made the entire dreemur family commit suicide in undertale already(toriel's went unused, but still)
>>714194341My bet is on the janny tranny suselle shipper that pretends to love ralsei while repeating the same arguments like a broken record like they haven't been all shut down until he goes "WHATEVER I TOLD YOU SO TOBY IS LE HECKIN WHOLESOME YURIPILLED AND YOU WILL ALL SEE"
>>714197313Nobody in Deltarune likes him
>>714194274>don't worry, he doesn't get stronger
>>714174469 (OP)Snowgrave is an anagram for Wrong Save. Itโs probably going to end with you cheating by giving the crew their stats from the snow grave route or some shit.
>>714197089Wow these humans sure look fuckable, I hope they are above the age of consent in my country (14)
>>714197129She literally gets fucking soulraped in Snowgrave, the kiddy gloves are officially off and shit is only going to get real-er in the next chapters
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>>714197215I feel like Undertale definitely could've used a character that wasn't "lol so random".
It was funny watching Undertale Yellow desperately grapple with the fact that Asgore needed to be considered scary as your final goal, but he's an absolute joke in canon
>>714197313Toby does seem to alleviate his torture of Asgore by making the occasional female character get her panties wet at the thought of him (Alphys, Mew Mew) but that's GAY. I want him to kick ass and kill people.
>>714174469 (OP)The characters in game believe there's only one ending and desperately want to break that.
>>714197535sexxooooooooooooooooooo
>>714196897I hope there's air conditioning in that bunker, otherwise it must be SWELTERING in there.
>>714197129He's not afraid of writing suicide. Alphys commits suicide in Undertale if you kill both Mettaton and Undyne.
>>714197592But King Asgore "Putting Tykes On Spikes" Dreemurr is a mass child murderer in UT
>>714196897OUR HERO Officer Undyne TANKED the Sharting Bitch's attack
CUMMING FROM YOUR GOAT
CUMMING
CUMMING
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>>714197129And he also wouldn't have a character call Noelle a hochi mama or Ralsei a bimbo but here we are.
>>714197591Asgore's entire character hinges on the fact that he's a sweet guy who doesn't want to do you any harm but is forced to because the fate of his entire species depends upon it and it works as a twist because everyone talks about him like the scariest motherfucker in existence
Making him as serious and stoic as that pic is retarded and just gives you a shittier character in return unless it's an act
>>714197651Its fine, im sure Carol put her on ice.
>>714197535Imagine Kris thrusting into her and every time he hits her G-spot her nose blinks until he repeats the motion until she becomes an incoherent mess a her nose blinks faster and faster
Haha it would be pretty funny
>>714197739can you fucking stop? your last one already triggered me into a jerk off session
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>>714195367>deltarune the game that was initially canned for being too ambitious in favour of the less ambitious undertale was really only going to have one ending and route even though the less ambitious undertale had multipleYeah not buying it. The reason where was a focus on having just one ending and choices not mattering tries into the whole plot about the prophecy. Toby did not rewrite the entire planned out plot for the game to try and retroactively justify initially saying one ending and choices not matter. He could have easily just shrugged and said "I lied".
>>714195449wow, just like the hit visual novel Anonymous;Code!
>>714196738Validated by Jackstein.
>>714196960I don't see Toby downplaying the idea that kindness can change the world and al that jazz.
Weird Route is us not caring about others at all and pushing our agency above all, and it'll probably end with a horrible ending (or maybe not an ending at all, just us trapped forever in a broken world with no way to even die).
The Shadow Crystals will probably allow us FREEDOM like they imply, but things may break down from us following FRIEND's tail.
Twisted Sword could ultimately be "Good Ending+" in a way. Following the same beats as the kindness path, but ending with the use of the twisted sword to break the connection of all these other things trying to mess with the world (and maybe freeing Dess).
>>714197770>and it works as a twist because everyone talks about him like the scariest motherfucker in existenceOnly really Toriel does, everyone else once talking just a little more about Asgore admit that the guys a big ol softie.
>>714194274https://youtu.be/uXEiU6JEnD4
>>714197912Undyne hypes him up as the guy who will "become a god" once he eats your soul
>>714197912Toriel doesn't really hype up Asgore as the scariest motherfucker. She is afraid because she thinks he'll try to kill you. And that is indeed what he will do.
>>714197770that pic only happens when you did genocide (JUSTICE) route in yellow so it make sense at the very least
>>714197982And Papyrus and Gerson before that say he's a joke who people call king fluffybuns
>>714197739COMING STRAIGHT ON YOUR GOAT
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>>714197829That one was me lmao
Just started chapter 4
>the real Mike is a REAL MIC
>>714197829I'm not the same guy
>>714198105It is very clearly good-natured ribbing because Gerson is an old guy who knows Asgore personally.
STOP POSTING GOAT STOOOOP I JERKED OFF ENOUGH TO HIM ALREADY TODAY
>>714197770>but is forced to becauseHe's a little bitch who can't bring himself to tell his people he's calmed down and doesn't actually want to genocide the human race anymore
>>714198034He doesn't even do that though. He holds back in his fight and has multiple interactive options that make him hold back even more.
>>714195732>He thought they would be the next big thingno he didn't, he never said anything about them, you're just parroting a /v/ meme
>>714198227doesn't change the fact that it's kinda hard to take the game seriously when none of the characters do
>>714198129The game offers you a way back to Castle Town after you completed Chapter 4, so the Mike Room was the last thing I did to finish the game. Honestly, it was a perfect way to end things off.
I am afraid of Ralsei coomers.
>>714198307He destroys the Mercy button so there's no way out of the fight without one of you dying
>>714197739>paws on a goatFurries are so fucking stupid
>>714198265Doesn't he still have to do it in order to break the barrier? It's not about vengeance anymore, it's about letting his people be free.
YOU FAGGOT GOAT POSTER STOP
YOU ARE GIVING THE JANNY HERE A VERY GOOD REASON TO DELETE THE THREAD
>>714185234You would be correct, the issue is that there is also a 10 and there really isn't a reason to test out two digits unless...
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>>714198426Asriel, Toriel and Asgore actually have paws in game
Probably cause Toby is too shit to draw hooves
>>714195286>>714195732Had the radio one been a tomboy where the radio is meant to be her chest it would've absolutely worked
>>714198465He promised a war to his people and they are really looking forward to it as shown by Undyne, Catty and Bratty
>>714198519Theyยดre goatlike monsters, not 1:1 goats afterall.
>>714198519it's because they are not goats, they are demons
>>714198569>a tomboy where the radio is meant to be her chestYou mean she's not that?
>>714198569The female one has boombox tits already
>>714198465If he actually wanted to set his people free he could have walked out with the six souls and power over time itself, killed one human and then walked back.
>>714198465As Toriel points out, he could have taken the first soul he claimed, passed the barrier, killed six other humans in an afternoon and be done with it in a few hours.
What he did was kill a child and then sat on his throne for years hoping no more children would fall down, despairing each time a new one came along but killing them anyway. It was the worst of both worlds, the objectively wrong decision to make under the circumstances.
>>714198709That's a woman!?
>>714198650Seam called them dudes mate
>>714195030merged with ghost
>>714198426Ralsei has paws
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How will Toby Fox top the fanmade Dess designs?
>>714198426All boss monsters and Ralsei have paws.
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>>714198727And every single time he killed a human the task got easier and easier, even. By the time of Undertale he has enough souls to have near godlike power and he STILL doesn't get it done already.
>>714198812she will be a human
trust the plan
FUCK the light world
Kris is gonna stay in the dark world forever and it will be the GOOD ending
>>714197894>Weird Route is us not caring about others at allThat's wrong?
>>714198812less is more
also by not pandering to the dominant transcoded goth fetish his fanbase has (since he already did that with catti), its a shit trope anyway
>>714198876but her clothes and shoes are for deer
>>714176484Join his town and he'll make you a [[Big]] Mama. The lady darkeners will be well provided for.
>>714198974I think Dess is supposed to be a punk there
>>714198812Same way he topped every single design for Tenna in one fell swoop.
>>714198921The Weird Route is the same as the Genocid route; you want to see what happens if you do this. "Would it be fucked up or what" essentially. You have to not care about getting a happy ending or about the characters' wellbeing to do it.
>(You) canonically love Tenna's minigames and play them over and over
Thanks for the great toy Tenna! I LOVE TV!
>>714198987she likes to larp as a deer
>>714199035>Same way he topped every single design for Tenna in one fell swoop....copying Spamton?
>>714183870Kris is just the DR version of Chara which doesn't actually mean anything because Alphys's DR version is actually likable
>>714198884>Kris is gonna stay in the dark world foreverThe Dark World is like NEETing
It's a nice escape, but if you don't have someone to supply you with food and water you'll have to give it up eventually
>>714199080that's why she got run over by a car?
>>714199101spam man is not in 3d
>>714198809His soles are completely flat though
>>714199034oh fuck
well pretend i said that instead
>>714199151I like UT Alphys.
>>714199151Still dropped the drink, someone has to pay
>>714199035>The Weird Route is the same as the Genocid routeGenocide is just Frisk being on rampage and killing every single monster. This is literally not the case in Weird Route, where you're looking for something way different.
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>>714199151no he's this guy
>>714198763no, he's just fucking with you
>>714199151Just because DR Alphys had no chance to fuck up so badly with experiments that it loops back to one experiment having broken out and ending up breaking the barrier.
>>714198987And the retainer in her room is for Asriel.
The shoes are Noelle's. Dess is just a kleptomaniac
>>714199035NTA, but the Weird Route does serve a purpose unlike the Genocide route. Ramb introduces it to us through the MANTLE game as a way for Kris to get le freedom. I won't claim that it's going to be necessary to get the TRVE ending or whatever, but it definitely holds a lot more weight to the overall story of Deltarune than the genocide route, which was essentially just "fuck around and find out".
>The forbidden path began with ice magic
I genuinely want a light world fight where the fact that Susie and Kris are just two retarded teenagers way in over their head is hammered in and instead of just healing everything with items their wounds actually stay
>>714198479This. No more fag shit. Human boobs engaged.
>Susie finds out Kris is working with the Knight
>Also finds out every thing Kris has done was actually his SOUL
>SOUL gets a vessel
>She ditches Kris for the SOUL
>Player can now have wild sex with that hot lizard tomboy
BRAVO TOBIAS! I SAY BRAVO!
>>714199425>Kris and Susie fight the Knight in the Light World>She kicks their asses and they're sent to the hospital>You get a permanent debuff in the Dark World because of thisWould be lvdo.
>>714195315>>714195527Also the fact that Lancer straight up shows up in the prophecy as himself instead of being depicted as the prince.
>>714198519Theyโre obviously chimeraโs
The only way to avert the tragic end of the prophecy is for Kris and Susie to finish their homework
>>714199035>>714199264Whole point of genocide was blackpilling you into realizing the UT morality system is meaningless for someone who wants to see all the content so it's not the evil route its the detached route.
Weird route is what happens when the player is told no and they decide to snap the game in half in retaliation by out of bounds glitching or hacking/grinding a character into max level and how scary that actually would be to force real people to do that. Ironically this route is what happens when you care too much
>>714199529Susie is all talk while Kris is psychopath with a knife, she'd get killed.
TOBERT "TL;DR EAT SHIT FAGGOTS" FOX
ALL I ASK FOR IS THAT IF YOU MAKE ASRIEL APPEAR IN THE GAME YOU MAKE HIM LOOK A FAT FUCKING NERD WEARING LE EPIC GAMER SHIRT
I JUST WANT TO SEE THE DESPAIR AND SEETHING ONLINE
>>714176484https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhhHy9WWo24&lc=UgzJJdP4N8jqY0JzZa94AaABAg
"Dame de comer, Krissy~"
>>714198987Trust the plan. We need more female humans.
>>714198465>eat the first soul>walk out >meet up with the president, tell him the monsterkind has technology that can further assist israel and shake hands>eat souls of 6 other guys who were on a death trial anyway>free the underground
Do you think Ralsei will get to be a real boy by the end of this?
>>714199825I thirst for Total Ralsei destruction.
>>714176735>>Today, final-boss "ASGORE" was finished. After "ASGORE" is defeated, "UNDERTALE" ends. And then...Why does he write like he is a translated japanese developer?
>>714198727>As Toriel points out, he could have taken the first soul he claimed, passed the barrier, killed six other humans in an afternoon and be done with it in a few hours.Asgore would get FUCKED within the hour if he did the stupid shit Toriel suggested.
It's time to stop coping Torieltard, even Deltarune itself shits all over you.
>>714198727Dialogue from Gerson during Genocide.
>Long ago, ASGORE and I agreed that escaping would be pointless...>Since once we left, humans would just kill us.>I felt a little betrayed when he eventually changed his mind.>But now, I think... Maybe he was right to.>'Cause after all, even though we never escaped...>A human's killing us anyway, ain't that right?Asgore knows humans are more than capable of killing every monster if they felt like it. He is literally stalling just stalling for time. He doesn't say anything to Toriel when she mentions it because he becomes a beta when it comes to her.
>>714199916He desperately wants to be japanese
>>714194656GOD DAMN I wish that were me
>>714199825Ralsei will hug Berdly.
>>714199916He always wanted to be Japanese.
Sweet lovable and dependable Ralsei.
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>>714199825From what Spamton says, a darkener could become real if they absorbed a soul
>>714174469 (OP)It's going to be two or three but a bunch of Undertale Neutral style branches.
>True Pacifist>Combat Pacifist [All pacify, no spare]>Fight Route>Aborted Fight Route>Weird Route>Aborted Weird Route>No Shadow Crystals
I love __! Fill in the blank.
>>714199529i think susie would back off as soon as either of them got actually hurt
idk about kris, he might pull out the knife if shit actually got serious but only as a self defence thing if the knight goes too far
>>714198921>>714199419>>714199605My point was that Weird Route is about us clearly discarding the thoughts and desires of everyone in the game. It's the "ME" route. We ignore Ralsei's games, we don't play along with the puzzles, we force Noelle to be subservient to us, we have ice Berdly, etc.
We're not caring about any of the actual characters at that point. It's just about excerting as much personal freedom and control as we can within the game confines. An utterly selfish path to contrast with the kindness path where we're being considerate of the feelings of every character.
>>714200065You posted Kris' fate anon.
>>714200112I love [Pipis]!
>>714195286Originally Toby commissioned someone to draw up some concepts for a music character, he couldn't decide and just used all of them.
It would have been less annoying and obtrusive if he just stuck with a single one, maybe allowing him to give it a better personality than having to try to write three who fail to be funny.
>>714200112it when Dess kisses Kris
>>714198812>How will Toby Fox top the fanmade Knight designs?>How will Toby Fox top the fanmade Carol designs?>How will Toby Fox top the fanmade Tenna designs?>How will Toby Fox top the fanmade FRIEND designs?>How will Toby Fox top the fanmade
>>714200053I thought this was Ralsei in a maid outfit with huge boobs from the thumbnail
>>714199425I hope if we ever get a Light World fight it works like this.
https://youtu.be/WHnjKwVKIjg
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>>714199921>>714199927>when Asriel refused to let Chara use his body to slaughter humans, the story still notes that he had the power to do it anyway and actively chose to take blows that would kill him rather than fight back>because the point made is that a Boss Monster with a Human Soul is more powerful than humansCherry pick a little more why don't you. Asgore with one soul and the element of surprise would've been more than a match for six lone humans.
>but then when he tried to kill all humanity the Souls would rebel like they did with FloweyFlowey was acting like a sadist and wasting time fucking with what he thought was his best friend, in the time it takes for the souls to overpower Omega Flowey Asgore could have just cast Genocide and ended the human race
>>714198265>>714198727The entire point was Asgore putting his people first. He kept the UT from falling into despair by holding the hope out on a stick but also didn't push the idea seeing as most monsters didn't even know what a human looked like by the time Frisk fell.
apparently "LOVE FINDS ITS WAY TO THE GIRL" is translated "the girl learns the true meaning of love" in japanese
"love" is translated here instead of being left in english as it was in undertale, so it may not be referring to LOVE
but "Lost Girl" is always left in English, so something's up there
>>714199356UT Alphys sucks even outside the amalgamate stuff
>Susie's smile, which seemed to defeat everything
>HOW MUCH LONGER NOW?
>MY DOEWIFE
>>714199921>Asgore would get FUCKED within the hour if he did the stupid shit Toriel suggested.monster + soul =OP, though. you can only lose if you're a retard like flowey who ket frisk befriend the souls
>>714200372No there isn't, it's ambiguous as fuck like everything else in this gay ass game
>>714199425Something like in Omori when you knife Aubrey
>>714200362He had no intention of using the seven souls to kill all humans. He wasn't "doing it for his people", he was doing it to avoid having to tell them he'd pussied out. But he would've had to tell them at some point because he hadn't intended to go through with it for years.
As long as you've been basically pacifist in Neutral, Toriel replaces him and tells the monsters they're never leaving. They get over it.
>>714195985I forgot Firefox automatically gets rid of referral data, nice.
>>714200076You'll give Ralsei your SOUL at the end of the game, right, Anon?
>>714200112My Vessel.
Give him back to me.
I want out of the little shit who throws me in a cage and beats me up.
>>714200167Oh yeah, agree with you there. I imagine it's going to be shown as the only alternative the player has to diverging from the Prophecy. But then the player has to figure out another way to subvert the prophecy and get a better ending on their own, whether it be by getting all the Shadow Crystals or forging the Twisted Sword.
>>714200552Unironically kino scene
>>714174469 (OP)https://youtu.be/X-PskJgTcEc?si=FaiqVSDaciPIXwFL
These 2 retards are so unimaginably perfect together, I really hope they are together forever as they say...
>>714200167>Weird Route is about us clearly discarding the thoughts and desires of everyone in the gameActually you appeal to Noelle's deepest desires. You're just about to trigger what is deep down in many characters. That's the whole purpose of the Route for now.
Torieltranny copes are getting truly desperate.
>son gone missing
>instantly starts drinking and fucking
Why is she like that?
>>714199825>the final fountain gets closed>"Maybe... The Deltarune was the friends we made along the way...">the credits just show the darkners being used againScreencap this
>>714200335I hope not because I don't want to hurt Kris
>>714200728She went into estrus
>>714200731I wonder if we'll have to seal the Fountain in Castle Town at some point.
>>714200372I'm under the impression that Deltarune wasn't meant to have any connection to Undertale and the elements referencing it were added to the script retroactively. I don't LOVE or EXP exists in Deltarune in the same way it did in Undertale. This is backed up by the fact that the party gains actual RPG levels after each chapter.
>>714200728the bone man got her drunk and date raped her
>>714200728He was literally out having fun with his girlfriend though.
>>714200112I love Elninaposters.
>>714200340Cheeky fucker, you made me check.
>>714200460The trve ending will be achieved when Kris meets their desire (Susie).
>>714200539I wish humans were real.
>>714200728Toriels mentioned that Kris runs off on his own all the time, that poor mother having to deal with her schizo son
>>714200112the girl who is reading this post!
no not you tranny, you don't count
>>714200340>HERO_SWORD>HERO_AXEThis fucking naming gimmick again...
>>714201181those are definitely not lightner merch, anon.
>>714201181Those two will have sweet 8bit pixelsex and birth the next chapter's schizoboss
>Source?The voices.
>>714195315>But I'd rather play a party of schizobosses.I was actually feeling it before Chapter 3
>Knight comes around>Every schizoboss that you're canonically carrying around remembers that they fucked them>Jevil comes out of jevilsknife, acts as DPS and Healing>Spamton comes out and Spamton NEOs himself somehow, acting as Tank and DPS>(THIRD MEMBER)>Yes, you're going to need party members strong enough to fill dual roles
>>714200889Kris got home at 2:00 in the morning. Toriel didn't even call him once.
>having fun with his girlfriendSusie didn't look happy after seeing the prophecy.
Reminder that Toriel sees other monsters as total scum and only truly cares about spiting Asgore.
Kris raped Dess behind a tree
>>714201181but it's literally not Kris or Susie. we saw HERO_SWORD jump out of the screen and intimidate Kris
>>714198812He'll do what he did with Mike and make her a complete joke to get back at the fans for showing interest.
>>714201528Handing out eggs to you and me
>>714201528Pretty sure itโs the other way around
>>714194128are humans aware they are called humans
>>714201068>My kid's just running off somewhere and I don't even know where.LMAO nice parenting.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris_(Deltarune)
What other character should get their own Wikipedia entry?
>>714201415I was thinking of the same idea, but with a fight against FRIEND, considering it's been watching Kris's journey all this time, even helping them get the Shadow Crystals.
>>714201692>faggot non-binary headcanonit has never been explicitly stated he is non-binary, his sex has never been officially stated period
can these niggers fuck off
>>714201528And Asgored finished the job with his truck. Like father, like son.
>>714201692>Kris has been generally well received, with analysis performed by multiple critics on various aspects of their character, including their resemblance to multiple characters in the related game Undertale, their relationship with the player, and their role in the alternate "weird" route. source? is the point of this article just to circlejerk about they/them pronoums?
>>714201614holy mother of MIKEbroken
>>714195256She looks fuzzy.
>>714196960>Pacifism is 100% going to result in the prophecy going exactly as plannedBut if you look at what the prophecy describes, it sounds more like the Weird route.
>>714200347Asgore thinks if he crosses the barrier and attempts to kill humans that humanity would retaliate by killing every last one of them. Doesn't matter if he gets the souls needed to break the barrier and he can defend himself. All of humanity will come down on them and humanity is fucking strong in Undertale. During the Human vs. Monster war they won without a single casualty and a single child stopped the Asriel even when he had every soul in the underground.
There is no winning for monsters. Asgore made the right decision by refusing to cross the barrier.
>>714201868Asriel could've slaughtered the village, the reason he died was because he refused to attack anyone
>>714200728she's happier without kris around, like susie said
i don't think susie fully understood what she said to kris until they both walked in on it
>>714200340where should he go?
the piss jar or the cum jar?
>>714201864>But if you look at what the prophecy describes, it sounds more like the Weird route.The Queen's Chariot, anon.
Think about it.
>Spamton makes a big deal about wanting to be free and do what he wants
>In Chapter 3 he easily detransforms from his item form and can move around and do what he pleases
So what the fuck was the point of his bitching?
>>714202029>BENDABLETOBY?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>714201824What a fucking slut.
>>714200982they already met
>>714201868The humanity that keeps losing children down a hole on a mountain over years and has done nothing to investigate, you mean?
Asgore isn't going to try and fight a war. Seven Human Souls is meant to make him God. He'll break the barrier and then annhilate humanity in the same way Chara can end the world with a knife.
>>714202080Toby is retarded
Pussying out of having Spamton properly die ruins the entire Neo fight
>>714202101>that gifKEKUS
>>714199151>Alphys's DR version is actually likablea pathetic loser who's entire personality is being a lame self-depreciating weeb?
I think the worst part is Toby trying to make the player give a shit about romance between one dimensional characters.
>>714201270>>714201584i think he's talking about ALLCAPS_FILENAMES being associated with gaster
Kris can bet his ass that he'll get impregnated as soon as I get my vessel back
>>714202349Yeah he left it up to me the player whether or not the gift is sent. Why would anyone deliver that gift?
>>714202080Spamton lost everything after the [Voice] on the [Receiver] that made him [Big] in the first place stopped calling him, and so he wanted the power to take back control of his life under any means necessary. The Shadow Crystal just pushed him over the edge because he realized that the entire world was set in stone and he could do nothing worthwhile to change it, even if he got back all the fame and prestige he lost.
>>714202025It's sad, but true. I bet Susie feels bad for saying that. Kris and Susie should run away and live in the dark world at school.
>>714201964He could have masacred the village, yeah, but could he kill the entire human race? Could he protect every single monster from humanity?
>>714202481You canโt impregnate a boy
>>714202481Don't think soulless corpses can bear children anon
>>714202216People go missing occasionally in real life, retard.
>>7141838703 and 4 I'd understand but 2?
2 came out four years ago
>>714202481Kris can bet his ass that he'll get his ass beat once I get my vessel back.
>>714200728>son gone missing>instantly starts drinking and fuckingWorse than that she actively locked him out of the house in the rain knowing he doesn't have a key.
Asgore should have gotten custody and the house. Toriel is a neglectful parent raising a sociopath.
>Deltarune ends with a non-ending, write your own ending, you hold the pen, now its your turn
>Its one ending, but you can turn it into anything you want, so go out there and create and be the next Toby Fox!
How mad would you be?
>>714201821dogshit "churnalism" articles
wikipedia still considers stuff like thegamer a reliable source for some ungodly reason so these shitty character articles keep popping up
>>714202614>multiple children over the course of years go up this one mountain and never come back>"uhm this just happens sometimes">"no grieving families ever push for an investigation why this KEEPS happening">"people just accept CHILDREN walk up a tall hill and NEVER return"Why even bother replying if you're just going to shit yourself in front of everyone instead of having an actual argument?
>>714202768Ripping off Mother 3 again, I see...
>>714201964>>714202545The term "village" really fucks things up because it makes retards think it was some medieval shithole or something and not a small modern town with access to guns, something that is very, very likely as VHS camcorders and microphones were already a thing by the time Chara was alive and the game implies 201X is the date Chara fell down.
>>714201692Fuck off, there's no way this is rea
...
>it's realJust, just
>>714202924Do we know what the gun laws in the area would be?
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>>714199825Either he gets to be a real boy or he permanently turns into a statue after the shelter fountain is sealed
>>714202568kris is a boy (female)
legally impregnatable
I have a friend who's finally playing undertale for the first time with the steam sale, has anyone got that old meme of flowey shitposting on /v/ saying something like "you can't spare toriel killing her is the only way to get through the game" and grinning
>>714202924Chara and Asriel have modern clothes so obviously they weren't in the middle ages or some shit
>>714203091god he's so fucking aware of the Homestuck
>>714203078Irrelevant since cops are also a thing.
>>714199825Do you think Ralsei will get to be a real boy by the end of this?
Im pretty sure by the end of the game hes either gonna sacrafice himself to kill all the titans or just become the titan himself and we will have no other choice but to kill him.
>>714202545Asriel could destroy the universe with the equivalent of 7 human souls, even if less knowledgeable because he lacks the experience from his time as Flowey Kid Asriel with the souls of an entire human village would've been more than enough to wipe out the Human race.
>>714203091Why did he skip the Sans or Papyrus question
>>714198812Toby will give her Black Antlers.
>>714199405You think Noelle went hiking when she was a little kid?
You will respect Kris's canon pronouns
>>714203140Some retards believe otherwise even though they've been filmed on fucking VHS tapes.
The point is if Asgore tried doing the shit Whoriel suggested, military action could probably stop him dead in his tracks.
>>714202541i think there's a half decent change that ch5 has kris and susie crash in castle town over night
he looked like he was about to jump out and go with her before the call in the normal route
>>714203123Only version of Kris I can tolerable unironically. Genetically female he/him girls are basically bratty tomboys and in need of correction
Kris is a boy.
What kind of MOTHER would let her horny teenage son sleep in the same room as her adopted daughter?
>>714202924Do we know how long it's been since the 1st human fell down?
>>714197458Not a single person in Deltarune says anything bad about him. He's still BFFs with Rudy, Toriel prays for him, Carol financially supports him, Alphys is friends with him and they talk about anime and comics together, and people refer to Kris as "Asgore's kid" but they don't say it in a bad way or anything.
>>714199582That's true, I forgot about that. So it's probably a character we haven't met.
>>714203304What are tanks going to do against this times ten considering it's an entire village worth of human souls
>>714202768if it's this but you also get a level editor it'd be the best ending of all time
>>714203431so lets say the 2nd human fell down in like, 1908
I think Asgore with a human soul could handle that.
>>714203342>mother that fucks the janitor that just moved in
>>714203472A little boy tanked this btw
>>714202850Or they searched for them and couldn't find them because the hole leading to the underground is deep within the mountains. Mountains are massive, so some might sneak through, especially in rural areas that are less surveilled than cities.
>>714201692And people question why Toby only interacts with Japanese media
>Kris permanently removes the SOUL
>pronouns change to she/her
>>714203325i don't know if i would call kris a tomboy per se, unless goblin is just another word for tomboy, but he would definitely tease susie about it when she finds out
>>714174469 (OP)I dont care if its fake, can somebody please post the "future spoilers" image with spoilers for chapters 3, 4, and 5 that had the amogus in the chapter 4 column? Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
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>>714203342>slept in the same room as my sister our whole childhoods, never did any funny business>female co-workers and friends talked to me about women and dating like burgerpants with kris>even then there's an option to rudely decline his ramblings suggesting that's kris' true feelings about the matterWhy do people think this is so taboo
>>714203186Cops in places with strict gun laws might not even have guns. Even armed police are not the military.
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>>714201692>all these attempts at speculation and deduction due to lack of an actual source>in a website that's meant to directly source all claims as a standardThey almost seem to think they HAVE to give this a definitive answer as well. Hey dumbasses, just don't write he's non-binary. You're not claiming otherwise by leaving it out. And it would be the correct stance to take give no source either way.
>>714203582>toby rips off kissy cutiekino
>>714203728Asgore with no Human souls murdered six little kids before.
>>714196484This obviously got BTFO but Kris and the Vessel being SpongeBobs smiling at each other always makes me grin.
>>714203821I'm talking more old fashioned tomboys. Still largely feminine, but not so focused on being girly. I'm admittedly also just tired of the constant tropes of tomboys being tanned, working out, and being upset at the idea of doing girly things, so kris just preferring to wear boyish clothes while still having a feminine figure counts as tomboy enough for me.
>>714199825>Chapter 2: Queen wants Noelle to be happy>Chapter 3: Tenna wants Kris to be happy>Chapter 4: Gerson wants Susie to be happyTime for Asgore and Ralsei's turn
>>714203895>Toby Fox corrects someone saying "he" by saying "they"Damn, can't believe Toby Fox got dragged into this bad fanbase. Completely out of his control.
>>714203895Anyone who unironically uses the word nombinary as if it meant anything loses all the credibility in my eyes. It is shameful to the west that this is not the standard for everyone.
>>714204093>Only killed 1 in deltaruneWhat is he waiting for?
>>714204093Because he kept killing them again and again until they stopped loading.
>>714203875USA has high molestation and rape rates so they cannot fathom two people of the opposite gender just hanging out
>>714199621>Toby makes asriel a janny
>>714204127fair enough
i think kris acting like a gremlin is part of the appeal though
>>714204205He'll be the one to actually do the firegrave route in chapter 5, trust the plan
>>714204238Other humans didn't have SAVE/LOAD
So we all agree that the 'And last, was the girl. At last, was the girl' is seperate from the second hero right? It feels weird for the prophecy to mention Kris, Susie, and Ralsei and then suddenly just say at last, the girl. That doesn't work.
>>714203653>VHS camcorders>1908Retard.
>>714204250No, having a girl and a boy share the same bedroom is considered bad in most of the world.
>>714204317Agreed, that's what makes Kris being girl appeal even more to me than the other way around. It's the defiance of being girly rather than the condemnation of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glbgHu4b_-c
>>714203895>Kris is its own character chud you don't speak for them and you can't self-insert, don't you have any media literacy?>Kris is non-binary because if I were androgynous like Kris I would call myself non-binary also it's hecking awesome representation
>>714204339Toriel mentions how she gets a sense of deja vu whenever she meets a human that falls underground. Not to mention how Flowey gets the Save/Load ability (as well as coming back from the death) from the determination extracted from the 6 human souls.
>>714204373hey, that anon said 130 years ago. I was going off of that. i also wouldn't rule out that the underground is more technologically advanced than the surface
>>714203091It's kind of funny how snippy and brief Toby is in this interview. Like it's obvious he did NOT want to throw this guy a bone with anything. I think he just started skipping questions because he got bored and didn't want to answer anything else
>>714201868>and a single child stopped the Asriel even when he had every soul in the underground.Frisk is a very special child and not representative of mankind power.
>>714204358Yeah probably Noelle or less likely, Dess.
>>714204339>* You tell Asgore he killed you X times>* He nods sadly
>>7142034721.
>>7142037282. If the situation truly gets that bad, what is that going to do against a nuke or two? Best case scenario ends up with only Asgore living and the rest of monsterkind dead. Toriel's plan fucking sucks and the whole thing could have been avoided in the first place if she had acted as a proper queen to monsterkind first over being Asgore's spiteful cunt exwife.
>>714174469 (OP)Of course he lies. Freedom leitmotif is pretty much confirmation that choices matter and prophecy can be changed
>>714204339Determination is an inherent thing, it isn't only for the red soul.
The red soul's trait is "BALLGAME"
>>714204532They get all of their technology from the trash.
Also the nuzzling trophy is dated 1998.
>>714203895>when a word lack real meaning, I can define it however I likeDoes being an angloid speaker really make it impossible for one to comprehend that a character's gender in a fictional story can be left unspecified?
>>714203728*Girl.
And she's special.
>>714194006Being above Gerson who predicts future of chapter 5 is kind of important considering Catti also predicts the future for Noelle
>>714204795Ok, then I concede. I forgot about the Trophy
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>>714203472>>714204698Flowey killed every single thing in the universe with only 6 souls.
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>>714204358It's the best argument against the second hero being Susie. Because she supposedly can't also be the last one and the last one's symbol is the rude buster, unambiguously Susie.
megalo strike back with freedom motif in chapter 6, trusteth the plan
>>714204698Again, little kids are base Asgore victims. Kris is a special case just like Undyne, even then it wouldn't matter how many humans became undying since Asgore would be the most determined in the Universe and could Save/Load as much as he wanted until Humanity was wiped and not a single Monster was harmed. And nukes are fucking nothing compared to DT in Undertale.
>>714204987He didn't really. The barrier wasn't destroyed so he couldn't leave.
>>714204698Asriel was a literal god in the pacifist ending, he only failed cause it's the happy feelsgood ending where you solve the conflict with the power of friendship
Like it's pretty blatant that he could just manipulate reality however he wanted
>>714205065You don't need 7 souls to cross the barrier.
>>714205065you can leave without breaking the barrier with a human soul and a monster soul, he just left it unbroken
>>714205105>all that>yet couldnt beat Asgore
>>714202924TBF, it's an intentional misleading. Even the fallen humans give off timed impressions which are pretty misleading. The war of monsters and humans def happened in the medieval times, tho, right?
>>714204532NTA, but if the 130 year thing is right, the 2nd human would have fallen in 214X, Chara is the one who fell in 201X, not Frisk.
>>714205178He never got the souls before
>>714203728a little boy backed by nothing but nigh-unlimited amounts of determination from an extradimensional being controlling their actions
>>714205178?? yes without the 6 souls
>>714204506>>714204531>>714204671>>714204793You're arguing for a situation where six separate times children resigned themselves to being murdered by Asgore than do literally anything else the first time they died to him.
Because Toby confirmed Asgore got all of them. So none of them got up to Asgore, died and then went anywhere else in the Underground to stay away from him. They ALL chose to die by his hand for good.
Or, no, they just didn't have that power and died once. They didn't have a meta-ability and a player forcing them to continue playing by videogame rules. They were just kids who got murdered.
>>714205331?? I already showed a twitter image where Toby confirms that Asgore personally murdered all of them
>>714204093
>>714205019Considering Noelle can use swords, the second hero is 100% her. Toby was is way too autistic with his details to let something like that pass by accident.
Now what does this means? Who knows. Considering Susie herself seems like a fourth wheel she might be a designated sacrifice. Which paints Kris and the entire hometown conspiracy in a pretty bad light but I doubt they give a shit at this point.
>>714198812always bet on human dess
>>714205331Read
>>714204671 again anon. Asgore confirms he knows you reloaded your save. The other kids tried it as well, stubbornly couldn't beat him and resigned into helping Monsterkind for one reason or another.
You can say it doesn't make sense because that's unrealistic and you wouldn't do that, but that's what history has been wrote as in Undertale. It's a fairytale-like backstory to the world you explore.
>>714205331>gets reminded that they forgot a basic canon detail>complete meltdown, mass replies, seethingI swear 4chan wasn't like this in the past
But it's so common now
>>714205261This. Frisk gives up when we give up. If you thought that the fight against the vegetoids were too tough and you shut off the game, that's you running out of determination and that's where Frisk's life ends. Then I guess the vegetoid becomes the most powerful being in the underground
>>714205331They were just kids who got murdered. Undertale Yellow is not canon.
>>714205105>he could just manipulate reality however he wantedHe wanted Frisk to be Chara, alive and well. He finally gives up when he accepts that Chara is dead and Frisk is someone else. He couldn't make the reality of the situation change despite his immense power.
Twitter posts are not canon.
>>714205586The site is filled to the brim with zoomers and third worlders
Also glowies
>>714205261*Girl.
And the determination comes from Frisk as well. She isn't controlled like Kris.
>>714204358Susie leaves the party and then rejoins later, so technically she could be both.
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>>714203230He wasn't ready to reveal that Sans is actually a massive piece of shit yet.
This is the best character design Toby has ever made
>>714197864my fav chess piece: the flower
>>714205727how? does it tie into your goner frisk theory and frisk being the angel's body outright?
>>714205791I'm glad it's been cemented so hard that Toby literally cannot reveal him as anything else like another shitty furry or whatever cause he'd get lynched
>>714205791It isn't even confirmed that this monster is the G man. I fucking hate gasterfags so much, their posts are 99% headcanon
>>714205845I don't buy into chess theory myself but you could make the argument that the flower represents a pawn, being able to "bloom" into another piece
>>714196520Gersonโs speech was already hilarious considering Tobyโs creative repertoire has consisted of Halloween Hack, Undertale, and random shit for Homestuck. Iโll take back those thoughts if the ending is truly as necessary to tell as he says, since Susie is at least written very sincerely compared to nearly all of his past characters.
uhhhโฆ/v/sistersโฆ? our response?
>>714205890Not really. It's mostly just stuff from playing the game. It's stated in each SAVE POINT Frisk is filled with determination because of HER actions like playing in the leaves, not ours.
>Normal ending
Fun gang prevents the Angel's Heaven
>Weird ending
Kris is put in a stockade for crimes against Dark World and paddled by Susie and Noelle while Lancer and Ralsei pelt him with tomatoes.
>Sword ending
Kris kills all of Hometown then does the oogabooga scary Uboa face like Chara did after scolding the player for 10 minutes for taking DR's equivalent of Genocide route.
>Dog ending
Gaster, Friend, and Annoying Dog admit their grandmaster plan to fuck with the Fun Gang's heads.
>>714205976>Susie is at least written very sincerely compared to nearly all of his past characters.Until she and Noelle are in the same screen together and shit gets FORCED
>>714205783>Sans is eventually sent to Undertale from Deltarune>He'll become Frisk's dad if you stay with Toriel and Frisk will just have to run away from home all over again
>>714204093i CANNOT understand what is being said here.
>>714205105Actually, he couldn't. We had too much determination, so he couldn't take control of the timeline so anything he would have done would have been reset by us.
>>714205104How do you attach the hair?
>>714206070i chose hate
toby gives you the choice
>>714206070Haven't any of these fags played the game? You can literally choose to have them fight to the death
>>714206128>Implying Sans isn't on the oyakadon route.
>>714196727Making a sound post for posterities sake
>>714205964I actually do buy into the chess theory I just thought the flower and the sword were funny outliers.
>>714205952>the guy that shows up on the fun value 66 room and does the gaster sound isn't gaster, actually!Whatever faggot
>>714205952>anon just says character design, indeed an entity that happens to appear in Undertale >immediate seethe about GODstermind status? warped.
>>714206153He clarifies what Undyne meant with this
>>714206340Nope. Gaster doesn't have an appearance, obviously, because he's been shattered across time and space. He's "the man" that keeps showing up.
Stop pretending low quality youtube slop is canon content please! Unlike you, Toby is not a retard
>>714206532I'm not saying "part of" everytime I call mystery man Gaster, kill yourself
If monsters are so kind and accepting why doesn't Frisk just say "I identify as a monster" and then Undyne wouldn't be able to kill her otherwise she'd be seen as a bigot
>>714204187This mass hallucination where /v/ pretends that Toby is some covert /pol/nigger and not somebody who enjoys surrounding himself with types like Kinuko and Gigi is really weird
>>714206070/v/ is a krusie board
it's legal
>>714205331>The being with the most Determination in the Underground has the power to change fate and use the in-game SAVE/LOAD system.
>>714206532The egg man explicitly says that he can only talk in mancountry which confirms that he is not the Gaster. You are a retarded nigger
>>714206261>>714206727BRING HIM BACK
BRING HIM BACK
BRING HIM BACK
>>714206532>He's "the man" that keeps showing up.>shows off his takeout box>doesn't share any with kriswhy is gaster piece #2341235 such a dick
>>714201181>Hero_axe.... So, Susie might get a irl axe at some point then?
>>714207282what drew you to that conclusion
>>714207168OUR TIME WILL COME
>>714207095https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY2iuJWgf28
I miss Jevilposting
>>714195286Genuinely baffled that these guys can exist in the same chapter as Spamton.
>>714194919>lol kill urselfThe tolerant left strikes again
>>714205952People call him Gaster because he spawns with a fun value of 66 where Gaster is associated with repeating sixes, is positioned immediately after the gaster followers in the code, was added at the same time as entry 17 when you look at the repo, and for how much Toby doesnโt want to think about his shitty romhack he put lots of things from it in UT/DR including an Uboa reference (who is a mad scientist in his hack).
>>714207450That brings me back holy shit
>>714207706"Kill yourself" is a common retort on 4chan, and they probably assumed that 4chan was involved.
>>714207379It sounds stupid, but we havn't really seen a real axe in hometown anywhere to my knowledge, not even a fire axe or something to cut trees/logs with
>>714207450>6 years agoKill me
>>714205976>Toby creates a game that is rip-offed to death>own fanbase INSISTS on just retelling his story but with a twist or two>for chapter 3, they literally flooded the space with their own versions of how Toby's story would continue>It was all awful lmao. Even, the best fangames, like Yellow, are just mediocre.>Toby makes a whole character that talks about how you shouldn't let your mediocrity stop you from indulging in your pursuits, and that it is fine to be derivative.Iunno, i think it's kinda sweet.
>>714194919>>714208107>people are still doing the "mysterious hacker known as 4chan" exploding van shit in 2025