>be me
>cheat on tf2 once as a kid
>now I get this permanent banner that displays me as a cheater forever
What the actual fuck is this? I cheated once therefore Im a cheater for life and need to be embarrassed forever?

Yes
Can't do the time don't do the crime or whatever they say

>>714185695
fpbp. You had tons of time to make another account even just for online games.

>>714185695
You get like 20 years for murder but lifetime ban for cheating as a kid?

>kill thousand people
>BUT TODAY I DIDN'T SO YOU CAN'T JAIL ME
>be a cheating piece of shit
>BUT I DIDN'T DO IT THIS RELATIONSHIP I DESERVE TO BE HAPPY
get fucked

>>714185607 (OP)
They literally prevented you from ruining your life and becoming some alt right nazi or porn addicted furry or troon which is what TF2 community mainly consists of
Be grateful now

Yes. You are like pedo sex offender but worse

>>714185607 (OP)
it goes away after 8 years
you're still underage

I forgot I was even banned.. it only counts in like 5 games so whatever

>join internet service
>they mass-report you
>total waste of time and money

>>714185607 (OP)
I cheated in cowadooty once as a kid and I just immediately switched to a new account. Weird that there are people who don't have the instinct to do the same thing.

I wish the VAC ban would apply to every pvp game on steam instead of select few. Fuck cheaters, you made a conscious decision to cheat, there should be zero tolerance poilicy.

>>714185607 (OP)
>cheats
>gets mad at being labeled as a cheater
retard

>>714186297
It goes away for others, but you still see it when you look at your profile and you're still banned for life

>use a fishbot in wow
>never get caught till shadowlands where i got a 3 day ban for trying a fishbot i never used before
i mean..it makes sense who the fuck wants to stare at a blob for 20 seconds till splashes at the second 19

>cheating will result in a permanent ban
>cheat
>receive permanent ban
Get fucked, kiddo.

>>714185607 (OP)
It should also show up on every alt account you touch. Fuck cheaters, you're only sorry you got caught.

>>714185607 (OP)
>make alt account
wow that was hard

>>714187014
i would say after 5 years one would learn to not cheat again
but i'm not a corporate shill to defend cheaters buying another game to keep on cheating

>be me
>cheat on tf2 multiple times as a kid
>never got banned
I miss joining random shitty brony servers and aimbot everyone as sniper until everyone left.

>>714187014
sniping kids with aimbot in tf2 for a week straight was worth the ban. most fun I've ever had

>>714188165
>not playing the videogame and hearing underage kids scream at me is the most fun I've ever had
Wow anon, gay AND a diddler. How innovative.

>>714188165
You know what. I'm not even against cheating. But I loathe incompetent cheaters who do it to piss off innocents. I used cheats on an alt account to piss off power hungry admins on tf2, counter strike and gmod just to humble those faggots. Cheating just to win against literal kids is pathetic.

>>714185695
Fpbp.
Fuck cheaters.

>>714187448
>but i'm not a corporate shill to defend cheaters buying another game to keep on cheating
That argument might work if you had to actually pay for TF2 any more, retard.

>>714188832
i dont know i dont play your shit game anon
i'm sorry you feel offended

>>714186704
i don't wish that some retarded indie developer could ban me forever from (almost) all PC games

>>714185607 (OP)
>wait 8 years
>goes away
Wow it's nothing

>>714186704
>cheat in a shit game
>now you can't play a game you play legit
you are retarded

>>714190061
Don't cheat, it's that easy you scrub

>>714185607 (OP)
Oh boo fucking hoo, maybe next time don't cheat

yes

>>714185607 (OP)
Make a new account retard. I can't understand why you fuckers are so opposed to making a new one. If it was so long ago the majority of your games would be on the new one by now.

>>714185815
Most people get the death penalty for murder. You got off easy.

>>714185607 (OP)
cheater cheater pumpkin eater

>>714185815
I know it's a hard concept to grasp but your actions have consequences Mbeke

>>714185607 (OP)
>I cheated once therefore Im a cheater for life and need to be embarrassed forever?
Yes, once a cheater, always a cheater. Go fuck yourself. You don't get to ruin the game for everyone else and then act like you're above punishment, retard.

wish VAC would just kill you in real life

>>714185607 (OP)
haha fag
filthy cheater

>>714185607 (OP)
just dont cheat u retard, is not that hard

>>714185815
Yes if you take someone's life you usually go to jail for a long time. Society has agreed that murder is wrong and elected officials have decided what the penalties are. The video game company isn't able to literally put you in prison or execute you. They can, however decide that the penalty for cheating in an online game is a lifetime ban from playing their game. You're ruining someone else's experience.
Just like how some murderers are able to change their identify and never be prosecuted, you can make a new account. But also who the fuck checks the account of people on Steam? Last time I did was when some ResetEra dev got caught playing a game they banned discussion of completely (forget which one) and before I can't remember. Can't even remember checking my friends pages

>>714185607 (OP)
>banned as a kid
Just make a new account

everyone I know that cheated as a teenager still uses cheats from time to time
>bro it's no big deal I just toggle wh against other cheaters

>>714185607 (OP)
I thought it expires after 7-10 years?

>>714185607 (OP)
>>cheat
>>now I get this permanent banner that displays me as a cheater forever

>>714185607 (OP)
If you were a nigger as a kid then you're going to be a nigger as an adult.

>>714185815
i do think people should get 20 years for cheating

>>714185815
You get a permanent record and become pretty much unhireable on every job

>>714186704
i wish that you killed yourself both physically and spiritually, there should be a zero tolerance policy.

>>714194930
>NOOOO I DESERVE TO CHEAT BECAUSE... I JUST DO OKAY?! I DONT HAVE THE TIME TO ACTUALLY GET GOOD AND MY EGO IS TOO MASSIVE TO ADMIT THAT I'M NOT THE BEST PLAYING IN THE WORLD SO LET ME CHEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!

>>714194930
There is nothing wrong with being bad at videogames, my friend. Cheating is, however, gay and retarded.

>>714185607 (OP)
your parents raised you incorrectly and you are now reaping what your parents have sown

Once a cheater, always a cheater. Kill yourself.

>>714193402
>You're ruining someone else's experience.
I wish they would VAC ban for playing fighting games on wifi

>>714195217
>>714195273
stupid nigger samefag your solution of having a VAC ban apply to ALL pvp games instead of the only one you cheated at is retarded and extremely flawed aswell. you sound like those faggots who think a HWID ban coupled with a kernel level spyware jew anticheat is a good idea to ban cheaters. kill yourself you retarded sub 30 iq bootlicker.

>>714195753
most of /v/ started out on console, don't expect them to understand

>>714195753
Calm down, you're too upset to make coherent arguments

>>714195753
lol mad

>>714195753
Cheaters deserve beheadings.

>>714191674
no they don't.

>>714185607 (OP)
>terms and conditions: if u cheat u will be vac banned
>launch epik_cheets.exe
>"you are banned"
woooooowww

lmao get fucked cheater

>>714191674
idk where you live but here in burgerland that isnt true at all. with "good behavior" you can be out as early as 15 year. esp if ur black. Some prisons actually released black prisoners early cus they had too many of em. Gotta keep prison diverse.

>>714185607 (OP)
Yes. Don't cheat next time, faggot.

>>714185607 (OP)
You failed the IQ test twice. First time when you cheated, second time when you didn't abandon your account and start fresh.

>>714185607 (OP)
>now I get this permanent banner that displays me as a cheater forever

Is that all? The whole "cheating will result in a permanent ban" and never being able to play on vac secure servers ever again (so basically all relevant servers) was enough to scare me.

>>714195942
>>714196009
you fags seem to not understand that if you implement such severe punishments and prevention mechanisms for cheaters then it also impacts the player in a negative way. a player gets wrongfully banned despite not cheating? boom hes blocked from playing all his games. most games feature a kernel level anticheat in order to prevent cheats? boom the average player gets spied on and his data gets sold by jews.

>>714186017
>alt right nazi or porn addicted furry or troon which is what TF2 community mainly consists of
as a tf2 player I can say we really do have both ends of the spectrum. Truly the most diverse community of em all.

>>714185815
Big difference between prison and a funny banner that you can get rid of at any time

>Agree to rule
>Break rule
>Get punished
>AYO HOL UP HOW TF THIS GON BE HAPPENIN TO ME NAHHH THATS CRAZYYYYYYYYYYYYY
urban behavior

>>714185607 (OP)
I mean if you're still on the account that is on you, should have started fresh.
Whats stupid is that its not even a big deal anymore, its common knowledge that shit like CS2 is just mostly cheaters playing vs cheaters now. VAC can't do shit

>>714185607 (OP)
If you cheat EVER then that's because in your mind you somehow think cheating is acceptable. So this lifetime mark of shame is exactly what's good about VAC.

>>714196309
It's already happening anyway we might ass well do some good with it

>>714186894
If you check your own profile you're just a narcissist so you deserve to see that blemish.

ngl I side with OP, if you keep ur account for 20 years and regularly use it I think removal of a vac ban from way back when is fine. At the very least 1 act of forgiveness should be allowed.

>>714185607 (OP)
most people don't feel the need to cheat even once. you're a nigger and you deserve worse.

>>714196309
>I was WRONGFULLY BANNED for cheating
There isn't a fallable human making the judgement call that you can challenge, but a cold computer that empirically identified that you are definitely using a cheat that has been blacklisted.
Get and stay fucked.

>>714195753
>kill yourself you retarded sub 30 iq bootlicker
Have you tried not cheating?

>>714196735
>There isn't a fallable human making the judgement call that you can challenge, but a cold computer that empirically identified that you are definitely using a cheat that has been blacklisted
in 2025 it's AI
https://youtu.be/fiGarzzt9dQ?t=3581

>>714185607 (OP)
there's always a way out anon

>>714196735
holy shit you're so retarded you can barely read. i never said i was the one who was wrongfully banned but rather presented a scenario that can actually happen. go back to preschool so you can occupy yourself with an actual task instead of eating your boogers and drooling all over your desk.

>>714185815
first degree murder in most states is life in prison or death. second degree is usually 30 years to life depending on a variety of factors.
and yes cheating fucks should get a badge permanently applied to their account that say they’re a cheating bastard much like murderers become convicted felons in every database anyone is willing to look at for your information

>>714185607 (OP)
Probably the most based thing about Steam.

>>714197113
A computer isn't a jury of meatsacks that are prone to making a mistake on that level.
False positives in computing are significantly different from false convictions in court.
Get fucked cheater.

>Steal from a store and get caught
>Get slap on the wrist by getting banned from entering the store instead of jail time.
>Can no longer shop legitimately at the place you shoplifted at
Wooooooooooooooooow how was I supposed to know that would happen

Been playing games online since 2004, when I was only 11 years old and I never cheated once, being a kid is not an excuse.

>>714196951
It's a good thing I don't set my dpi to 18000 and swing my mouse around like a retard.

>>714197429
>there was never ever ever ever ever ever ever an error during banning an innocent player using the VAC system.
you have brain damage, jeet NPC-kun

>>714185607 (OP)
don't cheat kid
however, if you're in the EU, you can use the "forget me" law and start fresh

>>714197703
False positive bans get reverted.
But you still have your ban, because it wasn't a false positive.
It was real
Just like your father's disappointment in you

>>714197807
im not a cheater nor am i banned you retarded subhuman, grab a book, learn to read then come back to me.

this is OP

>>714197670
use a different mouse, got it
is there anything else i should do to escape the AI overlords?

>>714185607 (OP)
deserved

>>714186704
goddaayuum!! thats a lotta coom in that jizzbag

>>714185815
It should be legal to euthanize you.

>>714193929
It never expires but it stops displaying on your profile after 10 years.

>>714198125
Why change your mouse, are you fucking retarded? Just set your dpi to 800 like every other normal person.

>>714198125
None of those rules apply to VAC. are you retarded? You know you that different games have different anticheat and rules, right?

>>714198489
interesting theory, will this please the AI? no one knows

Can someone enlighten me on this stupid VAC bans? i dont even play multiplayer games...
but does this only apply on Valve-made games? or in all multiplayer games with Easy anti cheat or something? lets say you cheat in elden ring for example you'd get the permanent VAC ban thing?

>>714198614
VAC is opt in on a per engine basis.
If a dev wants to use their own anticheat, thats on them.

>>714198567
yes, old VAC was fine
modern anticheat is fucking annoying because you can get banned for flicking your mouse too fast or having teamviewer installed

>>714185607 (OP)
eat shit

>>714197557
>getting banned from entering the store instead of jail time.
They won't even do that anymore. In retail clerks are just told to let people steal and not get involved for fear of liability lawsuits. In my store the same asshole has come in 3 times this month and stolen $500 sunglasses each time and we're not even supposed to report it to corporate. Just take the loss and hope the next sale is twice the amount to make up for it. Shit's crazy easy these days for criminals. They literally suffer no repercussions unless it's thousands of dollars' worth of merchandise taken all at once. Cops and even mall security won't get involved if it's anything less.

>>714198570
delta force won't give you vacbans though?

>>714198829
I agree somewhat, but posting a vid of some guy flailing his mouse around for over an hour with a gorllion DPI isn't the best proof. How many players would be banned from that, four?
You are acting like being falsely banned is this common thing that like 10%+ people experience

I only ever turn on my cheats if there's a tryhard on the other team talking shit. Conversely, if you're on my team and you start talking shit I'll start throwing.
Either way, I'm having fun at your expensive. Just be normal.

>>714198887
>retail is at the point where they're telling their staff to not interact with niggers so they don't fucking die on the clock (thus stealing company hours) or get the company sued

>>714185607 (OP)
>>714185815
see >>714186704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFJqOlYaJbs
you were always a retarded faggot and you didn't grow up since you were a kid because you're still complaining, absolutely fucking pathetic

>>714199067
>I hack because of my uncontrollable rage
>or out of spite if I don't like you
>be normal
lol

>Cheating
>In an online game
Kill yourself, faggot. You're lucky that account isn't deleted, because it should be.

>>714199104
cringe

>>714197429
>The context of the thread is a lifetime ban from VAC
>His argument assumes every game audit that has been and ever will be done is via a computer algorithm and developer audits have literally never existed in the history of online gaming
You are a genuinely fucking braindead child.

>>714199190
seethe banned faggot, marked like a bitch

>>714199067
>Just be normal.
You first, troon. Hacking in throwing is bitch behavior.

>>714199067
>just be normal
kek

>>714199028
i'm not gonna play that dogshit game but it probably gives you a game ban which also shows up on your profile
>>714199047
no players should be banned from that
you can get shadowbanned in COD if too many people report you and the AI thinks your account is "suspicious"
i don't play that shit either but i hope you get my point, i don't want to play a game where AI is watching my every move and listening in to voice chat

>>714199193
Game bans arent the same as a VAC ban.
No human is involved in VAC's behavior. A game ban is manually done by a developer because fuck you in particular

>>714199067
>I hack because the other guy is shitting on me and I can't take it
>just be normal
go to a psychologist

>>714198614
VAC is valve anti cheat and mostly applies to valve games. servers with it have a big banner and icon that says “SERVER IS VAC SECURED”. getting a VAC ban means getting banned from that game on that steam account forever.

>>714196309
>cheater pretending that he cares about normal players
this is like when car jackers says cops shouldn't be allowed to chase people because it could endanger bystanders/other drivers

>>714199318
delta force gives out temp bans for the things listed

>>714195753
moving the goalpost and projecting sympathy for bad practices now, you literally can't man up to the fact that you acted like a faggot and got your due

>>714199612
>10 years
yeah that's temporary i guess
lmao

>>714199168
never get angry playing games
>>714199260
you're so mad because you get owned lmao
>>714199269
being competitive over games is a disability
>>714199448
i said explicitly why i cheat, attacking a strawman shows you have zero counter-argument retard

>>714198887
I mean I somewhat understand. They don't pay retail workers enough to play security guard. I remember ages ago when I got robbed by some dude with a steak knife when I was a pizza delivery driver. The $5 and large pizza he got from me was not worth getting stabbed over.

>>714200019
>never get angry playing games
The difference between you and I, is that I don't go out of my way to download shady software to cheat 'in case I get angry', lol.
You can just admit that you have the mentality of a twelve year old and still throw tantrums as an adult, it's okay anon.

>>714200149
The worst part is they send you out knowing you could get robbed but prohibit you from carrying any kind of self-defense weapons. IIRC that's what happened to the guy who invented kevlar; he was robbed as a pizza delivery guy and decided he wasn't going to stand for that shit again.

>>714200183
Nobody is angry here but you lmao, you must be one of the raging cryharda I'm talking about.. The idea of someone cheating has completely rattled you.
All I'm doing is keeping tryhard crybabies who value a win in a videogame over treating people decently in check.

>>714200019
and I said explicitly why you're a bitch, illiterate too

>>714200183
>the mentality of a twelve year old and still throw tantrums as an adult
I hope for him that he's a 12yo brown kid, didn't reach these levels of second hand embarrassment in a long time

>>714186704

>Creates the ultimate femdom story.
>Disappears

>>714185607 (OP)
Don't cheat.

>>714200961
>I said explicitly why you're a bitch
Your complete inability to highlight where shows how rattled and full of shit you are.
>illiterate too
Your complete inability to highlight where shows how rattled and full of shit you are.

Yep, you're ratted because you're a competitive gaming loser lmao.
>>714201195
>terrified of engaging with me directly and desperately looking for validation from other anons
The only embarrassment here is your life lmao

>>714199498
Aaah I see thanks.
So it's big load of NOTHING then. Big deal if you cant play a specific Valve game, not like theres many of those anyway lol. OP is a fag as always

>>714201317
>bot tier response
>can't comprehend why not taking the loss like a man makes him a bitch
it's little paco alriight

>>714201752
>anon continues to attack a strawman
I've said multiple times I don't care about winning. The outcome of games doesn't matter to me. I outright said I'll throw games if someone on my team is berating others.
I've completely broken your brain and ability to engage lmao. Keep barking, mutt. I command it.

>>714202006
little paco throwing a fit

>>714202153
Good dog, bark again as commanded lmao.

>>714185607 (OP)
You were not popular enough for them to turn a blind eye.

>>714202183
what you gonna do about it little brown turd? cheat?

>>714185607 (OP)
I have used legit hacks in CS for years and I have NEVER been caught and im only on of many. How does it feel knowing people like me exist and fuck up your whole day?

>>714202289
>mutt keeps barking when commanded to
Good dog. Keep barking. Show me how "not mad" you are losing the argument and not engaging with what I said.

>>714185607 (OP)
imagine having 20 years to make a new account and instead of doing it being a retard and buying more games on a doomed account like a retard

OPs a bitch. I love my ban. Its older than people that post here.

>>714185607 (OP)
>>714185815
>be spiritual jew
>forced to wear star of david showing you are a spiritual jew forever.
Get fucked, nigger.

>>714202437
>paco got called out for being a bitch
>paco can't cheat on the board
>paco repeats same shit because he's a little brown turd with no brains
you'll remember me everytime you'll think about starting your little program

>>714202701
I bet the browner paid for his cheats like a little faggot.

>>714185607 (OP)
LMAO get fucked

>>714196625
-agree to rules
-break rules
WTFF WHY HUH HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME HUH WHY ME? BWAAAAAA

>>714185607 (OP)
Yes.

>>714185607 (OP)
Lmao I used an aimbot once too, but I only got banned from the server, what kind of garbage did you use that you got VAC'd?

>>714185607 (OP)
>imagine cheating
>imagine getting caught cheating by VAC

>>714185607 (OP)
>make steam account the day it releases
>younger brother gets it vac banned
im still mad

>>714202701
>continues to lash out against a strawman because he lost the argument
Keep barking as your master commands, mutt. I have completely and utterly broken you.

>>714202748
Of course he paid, majority of cheating programs are heavily gated for multiplayer games.

>>714185607 (OP)
how is that my problem? shouldn't have cheated

>>714185607 (OP)
Pajeet BR or slav?

>>714185607 (OP)
>I cheated once therefore Im a cheater for life and need to be embarrassed forever?
Yes. Did you learn anything? Probably not.