.

I love opening these threads to see what the actual filesize is. It's always a fun little treat.

>>714241654
My favorite one is the 4mb one

>>714241569 (OP)
I can appreciate good data compression but have no fucking idea how they manage to get it down so tight.

dos grandfathers, how much gameplay could you fit in 2kb?

Impressive

Super bing bing wahoo

>>714241569 (OP)
They saved 243 kilobytes by shortening Brothers to Bros.

>>714242393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UzTf0Qo37A

>>714243503
I really fucking hate how YouTube forces automatic dubs on videos.

>>714242146
You need to stop thinking in modern terms. Old games did not have things like textures and audio files. It’s literally just pure code.

>>714243826
>no textures
Explain this ¡ can put a texture pack in Minecraft.

>>714243503
nice

>>714242146
There just isn't much data in the game. The code is very simple, the sound is just telling the sound chip to make a series of waves, and there's probably only a couple of dozen sprites in the entire game.

>>714243826
code can't generate audio dumbass

doesnt it feel like ever since seventh gen there has been no advancement on data compression

>>714242146
Modern programs are way more inefficient in comparison.

>>714243826
It does have sprites, though. They're just this size.
>>714245003
What the fuck do you think your computer is doing when it plays audio?

>>714241569 (OP)
Why your image lie OP

>>714245252
its called an mp3 lil bro

>>714245347
And what do you think an mp3 is?

>>714245379
its called an audio record lil bro

>>714244810
even then they repeat sprites alot
>>714242146
has anyone ever did demoscene shit but like videogames?

>>714242146
It's just a few dozen 8x8 sprites that have maybe 4 colors each and some code. It's not compression magic, there's just not a lot there.

>>714241569 (OP)
>This image is 283 kb
>look below
>2 KB PNG

>>714245480
What do you mean? Demos that run on real console hardware or games that push the limits of a console?

>>714245610

>>714245648
run on real console hardware

>>714245480
>>714246047
Literally the homebrew scene.

>>714246047
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWVmPtr9O0g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGDtViPngi8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOqxLBZiBRA

40 kilobytes? That's still too much
Short it by at least half that

>>714243503
>gay ass autodub for gay ass goys
closed it
like I do for goytube shorts.


Fuck you

>>714242146
This is how big mario is in real scale. Honestly wouldn't surprise me in they used a file type that was even lighter

>>714242146
This is the ACTUAL size of the coin sprite when compressed.

>>714245432
>>714245347
>trolling is an art
you meant a art.

>>714241569 (OP)
10/10 bait

This is how old hardware would react if it had to run modern +100gb games:

>>714242146
This is all the graphics in the game.

Epic

>>714246807
woahhh little mario on my screen

what kind of games could we run with modern hardware if modern software developers had the same optimization acumen as old ones?

humans are magic and technology is a school

>>714247543
when does he ever look like that

>>714242146
Really good video explaining it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWQ0591PAxM

>>714247312
ooooooohhhh oook ook oook oook ook

>>714245003
only on /v/, the biggest collection of absolute fucking retards on the internet, kill yourself at your nearest convenience

stand back

we can still go smaller

>>714247848
It's used in the animation for growing/shrinking

>>714247848

>>714245610
That's because 4chan started recompressing every image to avoid embedding.

>>714248752
Realistically how is one supposed to get past this?

>>714241569 (OP)
But we are living in an """AAA standard""" era where if you tried to cut corners to improve performance people would mock your game for not having the highest "quality" possible.

>>714248821
Dodge roll and i-frame through it

>>714242146
luxuries are the reason why games are shit now

why compress and work on your game when you can have 6,000,000 lines of code since bobby gamer junior has an i9 and can run it anyway or why bother compressing anything since jamal lajarius has a new SSD that's 5 tb he just saw on Gamers Nexus

>>714248752
me in the middle

I keep imagining if a modern AAA game could hypothetically be designed from assembly, just how small it would be. If something like Super Mario Odyssey got recreated from the ground up, just what would the filesize be? I have to imagine that it would be like cutting the lawn of a very large field using a pair of small nail clippers.

>>714246807
Is Mario really that small? How does he manage to live a normal life? He can't even open a door.

>>714249325
he simply walks under

>>714245610
Computer files are saved like decimals, digits after the first one don't matter. 283 and 2 KB are practically the same.

Why do some .webm files show up as 2:00 when I mouse hover over the post, and other times it says 1:60?

>>714245379
these youngsters don't even know how audio recording works

>>714242146
The most mind blowing one to me is the N64 port of RE2
2 CDs with ~1.4GB worth of data compressed into a 64MB cart. Keeping all the prerendered videos and both characters campaigns.

>>714247848
>OOUCH I'll vote democrats next time!
>AAIE that's IT I'll vote republican next election!

>>714249982
i'm old and the concept of vinyls still confuses me

>>714249982
I get how it works but it still amazes me that someone made a metal pin that can actually do this.

>>714246807
How do they make him bigger for when you're playing the actual game?

>>714250913
if you pick up the orange and red mushroom he gets bigger.

>>714250913
They dont, he was displayed pixel perfect in the 256x224 output from the console

TVs at the time didnt have the same resolutions they do today. Even a 720p image on a modern 4k display will look tiny now

>>714251097
What about the Mario in the new games? Super Mario Odyssey is in 4k on Switch 2 I think. That's a big Mario. Did they hire a different Mario?

>>714242146
I'm too lazy to do more research on the NES but 40 kiB is 40 * 1024 bytes = 40960 bytes
I think one instruction took 1-3 bytes (1 byte opcode + 0-2 bytes operands) on its ancient 8 bit cpu, which means you can have about 13653-40960 instructions

the gameplay logic and the graphics are very simple
it's possible if you have zero bloat, i.e. you don't use modern #coder memes like importing a library just to test if a number is even

>>714251097
>he was displayed pixel perfect in the 256x224 output from the console
That's not how CRTs work.

>>714251351
Nintendo doesn't want you to know this, but every game has a different Mario.

>>714248954
We went from underpowered consoles holding gayming back to overpowered PC holding gayming back.
But I don't get why devs chase bleeding edge so badly. If you look steam hardware survey. Wast majority of people don't have hardware. Consoles are held back by storage space. Regular ps5 has less than 800gb. Xbox has 1tb. No idea how much usable.
Yet new games are massive and need modern hardware. FF7 rebirth needs DX12 Ultimate. This means you can't run it on anything under nvidia 2000 and amd 6000 series. Nvidia 1000 series is still most used series of cards in steam hardware survey. 3000 series is second most popular with 3060 being overall most popular.
Games like doom dark ages and ff7 rebirth have ditched big chunk of playerbase to chase after bleeding edge and they don't look better than last generation games.

>>714248954
theres too many reasons why games are shit to just point at the customer. sure, if everyone wised up overnight and refused to get ripped off they could probably force some change. but games are shit because theyre being rushed out on to as many platforms as possible, untested, chopped up into dlc and drip fed content updates to jerk off investors and advertisement agencies instead of jerking off the people who actually buy the games.
its not like people need luxury hardware to be stupid with their money. theres shitty little smart phone games pulling in truckloads of money by being straight up casinos, and merchandise sales usually dwarf game sales, so sometimes you end up with things like messy pokemon games.
if games are to be good they have to be made by people who give a shit about making a good or fun game and have the time and talent to actually do it. that was always uncommon.

>>714252528
yeah, devs are mostly rich westerners
>>714252545
that's why indie games succeed hard

>>714252118
Thats why I said console output. NES pixel art doesnt get scaled and stretched like newer hardware can do.
A genuine conversation about CRT tv resolutions can get wild with all the overscan bullshit.
But it looks like I replied to bait anyway maybe twice now

>>714252528
The 2000 series is 7 years old. You can not expect big new games to support something older than that. 7 years is the entire length of a console generation.

>>714254494
Except hardware and graphics have stagnated. Prices are higher than ever. People aren't forking out money like they did in 2010s. But it's up to devs where do they draw the line.
Funnily enough Activision is going to other direction. Next cod game will come out to last gen consoles too.

>>714241807
My favorite is the one with the actual rom embedded into the picture

>>714254286
>200GB of uncompressed wav audio in 7 different languages

>modern game is shit because uhhh it has woke kong in it!
>old game is great even though you had to buy it at full price but you could beat it in 10 minutes

>>714255321
>woke kong
that's pretty mean to debra wilson

>>714242146
the cloud sprite is literally also used as the shrub but colored green

>>714255321
I'd love to see somebody beat DKC2 in 10 mins.

>>714247543
NES before ROM banks was rough

>>714246807
>284 bytes for 16x32 = 512 pixels
it seems that the NES used a tile based system and pre-defined palettes.
Tiles were either 8x8 or 8x16 pixels large.
Each tile needed 2 bits for the color of each pixel plus 4 bytes of metadata (palette choice, etc.).
A mario sprite would need 4 big tiles.
So I'm guessing (4*8*16*2) / 8 + 4 * 4 = 144 bytes.

>>714241569 (OP)
Inflation is real.

>>714241569 (OP)
kek

>>714250124
Lmao underrated

>>714249982
That's rotational velocidense recording, it's only one type of recording. You also have digitalized stairstep-based recording and "hopping in Jake White's audio polaroid booth"

>>714249994
that was just very astronomically heavy duty compression

>>714250124
>>714259993
for cuckity cuckcuck cuck cuckold newcucks

>>714249650
>practically the same
Maybe in terms of scale when compared to the gigabytes we deal with today, but 238KB would be displayed as 238KB or 0.2MB if going by your logic.

>>714249994
they changed the data and lowered the level of detail though, still very impressive