this shit got 100k signatures in 3 days since last I checked, it's safe to say it's getting passed
>>714266568 (OP)Governments will either ignore it or spin it in their favor, likely at our expense. I have no faith in this.
>>714266568 (OP)>thinking boomers will solve your problemslol. they'll probably completely misunderstand it and make things much worse.
>>714266568 (OP)>I WANT GOVERNMENT TO CONTROL MY VIDEO GAMES BECAUSE IM AFRAID THAT MY GACHA GAME MIGHT DIE ONE DAY!!!!Stop playing slop.
>>714266568 (OP)Already signed it with my entire family.
At what point did you guys realize we were going to win
Anons, the links to support the initiative:
https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/702074/
Remember what you're fighting for, anons.
>>714267019Stop shilling.
>>714267074You WILL own your games and you WILL be happy.
>>714266685Not sure how government regulation on corporations could hurt the consumer when this is asking for something pro-consumer.
The only people that could get hurt by this are smaller indie devs. Let's say they make a F2P game that gets it's funding from skins and they shut it down. Well they can't shut it down they have to provide all the resources and source code and other obligations. This could discourage indie devs from making a league of legends type of business model I guess
>>714267074Protecting consumer rights is the opposite of shilling.
>>714267167>>714267174>giving government more control >protecting consumer rightsNo, fuck off. Your gacha games and ubisoft slop needs to stay dead.
>>714266929not adding your girlfriend.
Funny how we went from "it won't get enough votes" to "it won't do anything" in the matter of 2 days.
>>714267171As
>>714266795 said, you would think this but you overestimate out-of-touch boomer logic.
I sign this only to spite Ubishit
>>714267317Based, hopefully that furry nepo baby kills himself over this
>make dead games nobody wants to play like the crew playable only for europoors when it dies
what does this even do? genuine question
>>714266568 (OP)LETS FUCKING GO!! FURFAGGOT TRANNY ON SUICIDE WATCH(WE ARE TOTALLY NOT OBSESSED WITH HIM BY THE WAY!)
>not even 900k
not gonna make it, it's over,it's ogre, it's joever, happeningbros... nothing ever happens
>UK one at 92k+
Come on you britbongs. Just 8k more and i'll suck your tea stained willy.
>>714267494HITMAN is also always online.
>>714267171>they have to provide all the resources and source codeThis is a complete lie, all they have to do is provide some sort of way to keep it afloat. All they'd have to do is release a binary for a consumer to set up a working server, which they already had on hand.
>there's an eu petition with over 900k signatures to eventually close animal farms
slaughter all vegans
We will witness ghouls (UK politicians) be forced to discuss video games in parliament and it will be glorious
Stop celebrating, you retards. You still need 20 fucking percent of the entire thing, and that doesn't even count the botted votes. What you are now experiencing is the biggest push this will ever get and you're still infinitely far away from making it. Just let it go. It was a nice attempt, but it failed.
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>>714267587Genuinely only signing this so I can play my silly bald man game
>>714267494>make dead games nobody wants to play like the crew playable only for europoors when it dieswhy is this bad? genuine (not really) question
>>714267679You are just seething they are more powerful than you and that shit would only result with EU setting up colonies on third world to do farming for them
>>714267545you reckon they get confused and end up given all old games free to migrants.
and if your game devloper does not give migrants free games you get called far right nazi or something in parliment.
>>714267593if some random 3rd party gets ownership over the server and all the assets that would create a myriad of other problems
I hate living in israhell
>>714267771It's already dead. Why do people want to "stop killing games" when they've already been deemed dead by the consumers? The publishers didn't kill it, you did.
>>714266568 (OP)>100k signatures in 3 daysnah it got 162k signatures in the last 3 days and counting
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>It will never reach 6ฬถ0ฬถ0ฬถkฬถ 7ฬถ0ฬถ0ฬถkฬถ 8ฬถ0ฬถ0ฬถkฬถ 900k, just give it up already!
>>714267720I signed it. I hope you cry and scream and piss and shit your pants because of it. I hope it passes and the EU genuienly takes it seriously and passes something to fuck with you. I hope you get so mad and butthurt that you eventually kill yourself in anger. Fucking loser.
>>714267815>if some random 3rd party gets ownership over the server and all the assets that would create a myriad of other problemsBut they're not getting ownership over all the assets, not even the main server, it would just be a community hosted server by consumers, akin to GMOD.
>>714267862Maybe you should accept the Messiah Jesus Christ who has been waiting for you all this time.
>>714266914How would this law (if passed) allow government to control your video games?
daily reminder that the european union doesn't have to do anything about your dumb movement, they only have to write a 2 page document acknowledging it happened and thanking your for your participation
>>714267730this would only apply to new releases.
however https://rentry.co/apg-h3
>>714267928They literally don't know
They actually have no argument besides vague fear mongering as a deterrent
>>714267891This lol. I admit I was skeptical but still we should not rest on our laurels until it's over
>>714267950anything that stokes hatred of the EU is a good thing so this not achieving much would also be a good thing
>>714267231Better if they're never made, hence the motion.
>>714267270Deniers and contrarians who don't want to move their fat ass to click one button
>>714267989>only apply to new releaseswhat's the fucking point then? companies are only releasing slop like concord nowadays
>>714266568 (OP)>tfw 17 out of 27 thresholds passedWe only needed 7, think we can get them all for the meme?
>>714266568 (OP)>shitty graphics >dodgy internet coding leading to constant connection issues >low playercount >outdated software on modern hardware that introduces a whole new host of problemsWhy do we want to preserve old games again?
>>714267231This initiative will kill gacha if it passes, retard
Ant that's good
>>714267989>this would only apply to new releases.How would you call the current Hitman? I would still call it a new release if they're still actively updating and maintaining the game.
>tracker sometimes updating in steps of 10 now
>>714266685No one cares about your ignorant and retarded take.
>>714267171I think you're overselling the obligations.
We had games with private servers which did not release the source code to do it.
That's probably the biggest disinfo pirate spread.
Video games are for manchildren. Stop playing video games and grow up.
>>714267231>bad faith argumentation
>>714268141the bottom three are a lost cause
>>714268141We can if you ignore meme countries at bottom
>>714267950Is this the latest cope?
>it will pass BUUUUUT they won't do shit
>>714268168If DLC purchases are deemed to be products then this would save present games which are still getting DLC
>>714267915I don't know how this works, but if the company were to shut down their game and give a 3rd party the right to host a server. And that 3rd party started hosting it to others, potentially even modding it and charging money from it...Or is it single player rights only, as in you can't host with the purpose of making money off of it
>>714268168The law (if passed) won't affect existing games, only new releases. Getting update and new content does NOT make it a new release. Don't be stupid.
>>714268168The game was released before the legislation would ever come out, so no.
>>714268168new as in released after new laws and regulations have been ratified.
>>714266568 (OP)As a concerned EU citizen, I feel compelled to address the "Stop Killing Games" movement and its potential anti-competitive implications for the gaming industry. This initiative could stifle innovation and limit consumer choice, ultimately harming the vibrant gaming ecosystem we all enjoy. Additionally, I believe it's important to recognize that many Europeans are grappling with more pressing issues, such as the rising cost of living. Instead of focusing on restricting gaming, we should be prioritizing solutions to these critical challenges that impact the daily lives of so many. We should also be concerned with the number of American voices involved in this movement.
We're gonna make it, anons
>>714267019>UK is 7k short of 100kNot that I expect anything to happen in New Islamabad.
>>714268198They got yelled at and told to heel on the IRC
They forgot the most powerful force on earth is a gamer scorned
>>714267507>it will stop at 350k>see, it won't even reach 500k>it will plateau at 600k, 650k max>there aren't that many gamers, 750k max and it will fail at the end of july
>>714267494>make dead games nobody wants to play like the crew playable only for europoors when it diesPeak retardation. If they make it for europe, they'll make it for everywhere. You're already putting the money. It's like the usb-c ports.
And why? Because if I pay for something, it should be mine, no matter the game, and this is a step foward that in gaming
I've only seen corpo execs and jews oppose this.
That tells me all I need to know.
>>714267679>>714267790I'm surprised that such an extreme initiative has that much support.
Maybe there are more radical vegans out there than i thought.
>>714268219I will never understand why people say this, this is such an ignorant boomer take. Like, I'm not mad at you for believing that, you could be baiting. But if you're being genuine, can you explain your reasoning?
>>714268403And indians they pay 2 pennies to spam
But we'd all prefer forgetting the sight of those
>>714268403this is true but I've seen grifters and troon lovers support this, so I'm not so sure this will do anything at all
>>714268337>consumer rights will negatively impact daily lives
>>714267231don't you have a ferret to molest, maldavius?
>>714266914The goverement already controlls games.
They jail you if you pirate some companies game like nintendo or others.
>>714267993I'm starting to believe it's actual Blizzard and Nexon paid actors and bots spreading useless emotionally charged blabber in hope of deterring signatures
>>714267171>and source codenonsense
>>714268352So what initiative do we raise next?
>>714266568 (OP)>this shit got 100k signatures in 3 days since last I checked, it's safe to say it's getting passedwe need 1.2m to be in the clear, past initiatives had 12% to 20% rejection rate
we need maximum pressure until there's no time left
>>714268481>free food and lodgingthanks nintendo
>>714268457Name ten of those or your kidneys belong to me as disclosed in the ToS
>>714268481Why haven't I been arrested yet?
>>714268457It'll make a ferret rapist experience ego death so it achieves something
>>714268141I like how the outline changes.
Finland has gold now, Sweden to Denmark silver and Spain to Gypsyland bronze. I wonder whether Finns are going for absolute meme and reach over 300% for platinum(?).
>>714268267Not sure about Bulgaria and Slovenia either.
>>714268485This.
>>714266914I WANT GOVERNMENT TO CONTROL MY VIDEO GAMES BECAUSE IM AFRAID THAT MY GACHA GAME MIGHT DIE ONE DAY!!!!
>yfw Pirate Software is the sole responsible for the fall and much higher rise of the initiative
Thank you furry faggot
>>714268102It would be fucking possible to do. Pulling a plug using today games to have future proof games, with publishers/devs willing retrofitting to the law on their volition if they can is probably the best scenario we scenario we can have
Is this just a petition?
Petitions dont do anything
>>714268337>gpt slopJeets aren't even trying anymore.
>>714268403correct
the ultimate enemies are the ones with the money, I would gladly team up with my foes simply to make billionaires feel pain
>>714267171all that text just to ruin it with tranime
>>714268395>If they make it for europe, they'll make it for everywhere.Okay fortune teller.
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>>714268332>>714268328>>714268304Looking at the list Ross put out of games in fear of dying without any form or regulation, games like Overwatch 2, Destiny 2 and other live service games would fall under it. I know it's not retroactive, but the definition under what actually falls under it is vague.
>>714268296The way Minecraft/GMOD servers work is essentially the way of how SKG is supposed to work, community-backed servers. More than that I dare not to say for fear of being like the mongril.
Feel free to correct me, I can be amazingly wrong.
>>714267171>>714268494It's not even like that, and it's not retroactive. The idea is that live service games are designed with sunsetting in mind so they can do a final patch/change and make it playable offline.
>>714268627>Looking at the list Ross put out of games in fear of dying without any form or regulation, games like Overwatch 2, Destiny 2 and other live service games would fall under it. I know it's not retroactive, but the definition under what actually falls under it is vague.Those are just examples Anon.
SKG retard #1: > this will force the publishers to give us their source code (HURR DURR wtf is "intellectual property" anyway?)
SKG retard #2: > this will force the publishers to give us their server binaries (HURR DURR wtf is "intellectual property" anyway?)
SKG retard #3: > this will force the publishers to refund me completely when the game goes down (HURRR DURR I'm not a commie BTW, I just want something for nothing)
SKG retard #4: > this will force the publishers to print the end of service date on the box (HURRR DURR they just have to see the future like that, surely there is no clause about license revocation in any EULA ever)
Any more types I'm missing?
>>714268642>make it playable offline.also not true
what's the percentage now?
>>714268282He's a fag but he's not completely wrong. People shouldn't blindly celebrate once it hits 1 mil signatures. That's when the real battle will start and there is a slight chance that it might result in nothing.
>>714267862Why dont you do like the Palestinians and just move to Europe?
>>714266568 (OP)>The initiative does not seek to acquire ownership of said videogames. the initiative seeks to prevent the remote disabling of videogames by the publishers, before providing reasonable means to continue functioning of said videogames without the involvement from the side of the publisher.>we don't want devs to lose ownership. we just want devs to do exactly as we say, forever.really nigger
We'll probably need more than 1 million signatures, like 100-200k as a buffer, in case a lot of the signatures get deemed invalid for whatever reason.
>>714268514>we need 1.2m to be in the clear, past initiatives had 12% to 20% rejection rateI think skg will be even higher.
>>714268618>Yes I'll just waste development time only for EuropeAre you dumb? Nice sidestepping the usb-c port example
>>714267950I doubt 95% of the people who hopped on this bandwagon actually know Ross' position on this.
From Ross' point of view:
>Absolute, 100% ideal scenario (unlikely)The initiative brings about the change that was outlined, and games are actually saved.
>Next best thing (more likely)Companies are at least forced to tell you exactly when and how they will fuck you in the ass.
>Next next best thing (most likely)To at least remove this entire argument from the gray area, legally, so people can at least know how shitty their government is when they explicitly allow companies to fuck you in the ass.
>>714268627The games mentioned are examples, modern equivalents so people understand this affects other games than just the crew.
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>>714268498Mandatory handholding mechanics in videogames.
>>714268678>>>>>>>>>>>^^^^^
>>714268718remove "probably" and you're correct
>>714268296>zoomers have never known multiplayer games with community serversdire
>>714268678you seem angry, shlomo. what's the matter?
This is your last chance to switch sides shillniggers. This trainโs next stop is victory. You can be a part of HIStory or not
>>714268518Upper Echelon
Muta
Asmon
Critical
ack man
destiny
phillip defranco
Endymion
Kirsche
Mannix
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>>714268498Remove gambling mechanics from all games.
>>714268704Yes, they're really that stupid.
>>714268585Anon, I get it โ youโve been worrying a lot about AI-generated text lately. Itโs everywhere, and the more you think about it, the more you get caught up in how it might affect everything from creativity to communication. But hereโs the thing: Youโre overthinking it. Youโre letting this one issue take up too much of your mental energy when thereโs so much more to life happening outside that screen. AI is going to do its thing, but thereโs a whole world waiting for you to experience beyond the digital buzz.
What you really need right now is a break. Step away from the screen, take a walk outside, and talk to some real people. Socializing, even just for a few minutes, can do wonders for your mind. Thereโs something about human interaction that no algorithm can replace โ those small moments of connection, the way a conversation can spark new ideas. You donโt need to solve the mysteries of AI in isolation. Go out there, get some fresh air, and remind yourself that sometimes, the best way to clear your head is by living in the moment. Youโve got this!
Why are jannies getting ass mad at these threads? This is the most /v/ on topic thing
>>714267950the eu loves legislating random shit all the time so this will definitely fit in
>>714266568 (OP)I honestly dont care at all if corporations keep killing their shitty live service slop after they start losing money. I just want this pirate faggot to seethe even harder
>>714268457Ask me how I know you're a jeet.
>>714268685Sorry, offline/on comunity servers/whatever they plan for. The point is if the service stops, I can play it somehow
>>714268678Can you point to any of those?
STOP KILLING MY UBISLOP AAAAAHHHH
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>>714268814Oh I just hate retards.
>>714268678pretty sure if I bought your product, I have the right to own it. If you decide not to host it anymore I should either get a refund or be allowed to play on my own terms
>>714268856AI slop. Not reading that.
>>714268704just hand over the server binaries, and this horror can end
>>714268864Pretty sure a good number of mods here had Israel emails when they got doxxed
>>714268764Hehe Greece better
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>>714268141It is actually kinda fucked how those small countries get screwed over for having a sparse population. If you look at the per capita amounts luxembourg and malta are participating reasonably well. Hell even cyprus has a higher % than fucking france. They dont deserve to get ragged, it's unironically rigged against these guys.
>>714268403Come to think of it I haven't seen any actual game devs oppose this, publically at least.
Just the suits.
>>714268737Video games aren't physical iPhones in case you haven't noticed.
>>714268864when were the mods not retarded this is nothing new
>>714268852EU is already, slowly, on it
>>714269048PirateSoftware
>>714268704I know you're retarded and can't read, but the initiative explicitly says it doesn't want to have devs constantly work on a sunsetting game.
Do a last patch so people can play it on their own and you can legally fuck off forever
>>714268940>durr I hate myselfokay but how is that our problem?
>>714269039The real problem is actually Italy. There's so many potential signatures there.
>>714269086Ah, has this developer released a finished game
>>714269086that's why he said ACTUAL game devs
>>714269048Jason Hall
Chet Faliszek
Jason also explained how most devs wouldn't speak about this because one can and will get fired for speaking out of turn in a large company.
>>714268856Rajesh, stop shitting in the streets.
>>714269086He said actual game devs.
>>714269174>>714269186He develops, so he is a developer.
>>714269194>Jason also explained how most devs wouldn't speak about this because one can and will get fired for speaking out of turn in a large company.ah yes a known liar claimed it so it must be true
>>714269050And? If you put the work coding the sunsetting for Europe, you can use it for the whole world. Or do you think they'll waste money to do it twice, one for Europe and one globbal?
>>714269131I don't remember asking you anything?
>>714268752When did he say that? I remember him explicitly pushing for meaningful change to, in his words, stop killing games. He considered the labels a thorough loss.
>>714268438The target audience is children. Besides, most games are extremely poorly made and designed to waste your time. The developers are incompetent and disrespectful. It's mostly slop. I think I played most of the good games already and I moved on to other things.
>>714268102>companies are only releasing games that SKG would affecthuh...
>>714268837You may keep your kidneys, for now.
>>714266568 (OP)We need at least a total of 1.200.000 signatures to be safe. We got this!
>>714266685We ask them regulations to protect us. Why they would try something purposely against us?
You are trying to picture a cartoonishly evil entity, with your bootlicking.
Corporations are different, as their sole purpose is increasing their profits.
Good corporations are an incredible rare exeption.
>>714266568 (OP)I am deeply concerned about the "Stop Killing Games" movement, particularly given its links to Gamergate, a controversial and divisive campaign that has been criticized for promoting harassment and misogyny within the gaming community. This movement's association with Gamergate raises serious concerns about its underlying motivations and potential impact on the industry. Rather than fostering a positive and inclusive environment, it seems to be driven by anti-competitive sentiments and a desire to stifle diverse voices and perspectives. It is crucial that we focus on addressing more pressing issues, such as the rising cost of living, and promote a gaming culture that is welcoming, respectful, and supportive of all its participants.
>>714269243Ad hominem.
>>714269295Not doing your research for you.
The initiative will pass without a hitch now thanks to Ross finally exposing PirateSoftware and all the e-celebs finally not being pussies about talking.
It's just a matter of how the EU will handle discussing the initiative and what they'll do in terms of law.
>>714269174Technically this shovelware is finished.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/454380/Champions_of_Breakfast/
>>714269221mmmm nyo
You can only consider someone a developer if they have a total of 1 (one) game relased. Bit harsh, I know.
>>714268940are you not old enough to know that what's being asked for in SKG is completely feasible?
were you still in diapers when community-hosted servers were common practice?
>>714269270I was in one of his videochats a while ago, I don't know which exactly, but he was asked about his realistic expectations for the movement.
Yeah, he's pushing for it, but he's not expecting it from a realistic perspective.
>>714269259They have no reason to outside of Europe if it's legislated, and they won't when they can keep selling amerimutts a newer game at full price.
>>714266568 (OP)Don't get cocky, we need to keep getting signatures. The momentum could still die down
>>714269349EU will handle it just fine. It will look at a bunch of manchildren who can't agree among themselves as to what they want, and give a non-answer.
How can they verify that all the signatures are genuine? Right now, I can take my whole family's ID cards and sign for them.
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>wake up
>60k+ today already
>UK petition almost finished
bros...........
You realize that EU parliament boomers will wipe their ass with your petition?
The only reason shit like USB-C passed is because boomers got mad they had to use more than one cable.
>>714269390No need to be so negative about it, anon.
You are currently seeing people break the shackles of slaves while telling them that they're free while the slaves just blankly stare back at them.
These people don't know any better. Slavery is all they've known. It'll take time for them to acclimatize to their new environment.
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>>714269345>Ad hominem.Non sequitur.
>>714269221Well I just opened Unity and imported a model. Guess that makes me game developer too
>>714269314Crying, shitting his pants and pretending to have gone through a third puberty to make his voice lower and posting youtube shorts where he says something he thinks is true. Then all of /v/ without a father parrots his talking points because they think they'll have a friend if they do.
>>714269385Ok, I have a game on Android store that took me 5 weekends to make. Am I a dev?
>>714266568 (OP)I am deeply concerned about the "Stop Killing Games" movement, particularly in light of its reported links to voter fraud allegations. This association raises significant red flags about the movement's integrity and intentions. It is crucial that any advocacy within the gaming community is conducted transparently and ethically, without being tainted by such serious and divisive issues. Instead of focusing on baseless allegations, we should direct our efforts towards addressing more pressing concerns, such as the rising cost of living and fostering a positive, inclusive gaming environment.
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>>714269468We've never been more back.
I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU ALL
YOU ARE LITERALLY
L I T T E R A L L Y
KILLING INDIE GAME DEVELOPERS BY GETTING THE GOVERNMENT INVOLVED
THE FACT THAT YOU ARE KILLING SMALL BUSINESS WITH THIS REEKS OF LEFTY COMMIE BULLSHIT
>>714269476>parliament doesn't care!!!>USB-C->USB-C doesn't count!!!
>>714269086YWNBAGD
You
Will
Never
Be
A
Game
Developer
>>714269336WELL it is a sweltering hot summer, the likes of which we haven't seen in many years. . .
>>714269095if a game is still playable then it hasn't sunsetted, retarded nigger.
>>714269537I don't see why not. If anything it's strange that you don't consider yourself one.
>>714269390I'm 38, thank you. No, every ask in SKG goes against the intellectual property laws. I like commies, they're really cute, intellectual property laws suck, but this is not a serious stab at the problem at all. Nobody owes you anything on a free market with non-tangible entertainment service.
>>714269562Good. Total video game industry death.
And after it has turned into nothing but ash, new life shall take root.
>>714269554>4th of JulyABSOLUTE KINO
>>714268983>>714269054go back to sucking dicks on reddit
>>714266568 (OP)>safenice try, we'll keep collecting
>>714268141Proud of you Euro fags like you wouldn't believe. Well done lads.
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>>714269086>>714269582SAAR SAAR ME AM VERY REAL GAME DEV
ME HAVE BLOODY ORGANIC ENGAGEMENT
https://sidequestmedia.com/clients/page/4/
The faggots shilling for corpos ITT are probably the same faggots that were against the EU forcing Apple to adopt USB-C if they wanted to keep selling phones in the EU.
>>714269562this is more likely to be an Indian with chatgpt
>>714266568 (OP)I am deeply concerned about the "Stop Killing Games" movement, particularly given its reported links to extreme right-wing ideologies. This association is alarming and raises serious questions about the movement's underlying motivations and potential impact on the gaming community. It is crucial that we promote a gaming culture that is inclusive, respectful, and free from extremist influences. Instead of aligning with divisive and harmful ideologies, we should focus on addressing more pressing issues, such as the rising cost of living, and fostering an environment that welcomes and supports all gamers.
>>714269659Now this is a movement I can get behind.
I don't give a shit about any of this I just think it's funny for that furry faggot nepo baby to get massively shit on for spreading his retarded take
>>714267494EU is one of the big 3 economies (China and US are the other ones). Any time one of the three asks for something corpos bend the knee. Amerimutts ask for mor diversity, games get more diversity. Chinks ask to not shit on china, everyone sucks Xi dicks and removes all mentions of Tibet. Same goes here. EU is 1/3rd of the vidya market, you either comply or lose billions. If some small EU members clamping on lootboxes already made that practice almost disappear from AAA games, a continent wide requirement will make all game devs bend the knee universally.
Why are Europeans always pissed off about everything?
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>>714269562Hey, klootzak, nee.
I bet you several of these asshurt devs are posting ITT right now
>>714269445You lost + you're indian
Sometimes all you need is an enemy and an impending timelimit.
>>714269591it sunsets when it's not *profitable* to put resources into
>>714269468>817,894 signaturesHoly fuck, LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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>>714269562>redditors actually shitting on a corpo-shillhuh?
have we crossed timelines again?
>>714269792Because everything sucks, how are you not pissed
>>714269194>Chet FaliszekHardly a game developer, he was only a writer.
When we win, do not forget that these people want your games broke, dead, your community servers raped and dysfunctional, and they think it's funny
>>714267231>hurr durr you want government to stop corporation from mixing drinking water and lead?>how does this government overreach help the consumer commie?The same logic applies.
i just wanna recapture the fun i had in my youth
i'm sick of being dead inside
>>714266568 (OP)I am deeply concerned about the "Stop Killing Games" movement and its potential harm to independent game developers. This movement, with its calls to ban or restrict certain games, could have unintended consequences for small studios and indie developers who rely on a diverse range of content to reach audiences and sustain their livelihoods. Such restrictions could stifle creativity, limit opportunities for innovation, and disproportionately affect smaller developers who lack the resources of larger corporations. Instead of imposing bans, we should focus on supporting a vibrant and inclusive gaming ecosystem that allows all developers to thrive. Addressing more pressing issues, such as the rising cost of living, should be our priority, ensuring that the gaming industry remains a dynamic and supportive space for everyone involved.
>>714267950Only thing the EU ever does of value is pro consumer shit like the USB-C. The big wigs will do this only because it will make them look cool with the youngins and make people actually care about that beurocratic hellhole.
You can really tell how fucking done with this Ross is in the last video
Imagine getting all the ground work for this done and starting the initiative only for it to get instantly kneecapped by some faggot retard streamer, and only 10 months down the line do other big e-celebs finally get off their asses and promote it to generate content and drama
>>714269812My brother is a genius codemonkey game dev for a known studio on a big title and he supports it, that was all the confirmation I needed that it's good.
Moderators of this website need to start deleting and banning these posts. It's off topic and very spammy.
>>714269812>>714269562why are these devs so sexually addicted to telemetry?
they think they're michaelsoft or some shit?
>>714269194>Jason Hallas in the monolith guy? like anyone should listen to such a sellout
>>714269872the feeling is mutual
>>714269562>have to spend obscene amounts of time developing a game and server binaries>in event I need to shut down my servershow is he running server without having developed them? sounds like a larper who doesn't know shit and has either never developed a multiplayer game or completely outsourced the multiplayer part.
>>714269872t. Samuel El-Haid
Wanna bet that a majority of these "signatures" are just bots?
>>714269751Pajeets are not sending their best.
>passed.
You didn't even read it did you? After it reaches its goal, then they have to go through the process of verifying the signatures so they can make sure there aren't any false signatures.
>>714269390when cattle realizes who's feeding them, they grow accustomed to being abused and milked dry because the alternative becomes unthinkable despite ostensibly providing more freedom simply because it requires more effort
Would you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAVNxAVal1U
>>714269829not everybody is a jew or nigger like you. not everything revolves around money. but in your nigger head everything revolves around money and bitches. game devs do it because its their passion and do insane hours for minimum wage. something a nigger wouldn't understand. stay in your lane nigger.
>>714269934Unironically he didnโt play into the drama enough, internet beef gets attention thatโs why people do it. I know heโs too based to think that way but having a villain is how it actually spreads as a narrative.
>>714269562Assuming that you are just stupid and not a troll, If the pettition passes, they should discuss the law and made it. They then will apply different parts and disctintions and law applications that will for explanple work, or not, for different developers based in different circustances.
>>714269949good trigger discipline
>>714269870>No true scotsmanHe deals with video game development, video game publishers, video game preservation. Here's his serious video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LbwYHZJ1PY
>94k on UK petitions
it's coming home lads
Alright no shill bullshit this is in good faith. What happens to console players. Iโm not talking about games where you can just host a game and invite people. Thatโs solved. Iโm talking about stuff that needs dedicated servers that canโt run on the console itself and/or potential community patches.
>>714269562All game devs who make multiplayer games have their own local server tools to test stuff on.
This is written by some retard with no knowledge of game dev.
>>714270029we need 1 million signatures and we have 28 days to go, in the last 3 days we made around 160k in the process of this thread we made 5k. You really think we won't go over that threshold even if they rule out some signatures??? I get being cautious but this is in the bag already
>>714270134I can't believe both petitions are actually going to succeed.
It's so beautiful.
>>714269616>you own what you pay for is communismokay, commie. I have no interest in the you will own nothing and be happy agenda.
>every ask in SKG goes against the intellectual property lawsutter nonsense. also not the responsibility of the petition. lawmakers will be looking at this. current laws don't prevent changes to those laws. do you even logic?
>>714270159Maybe the console of tomorrow won't be fucking bloated adware slop box that makes you pay for internet twice
Who gives a fuck about the PS5/xbox who even knows the name
>>714269934He definitely is gonna need a long break after this. Even if the movement is doing well, he must be mentally exhausted dealing with all the bullshit.
>>714270068>call out the corpo studios soullesness>the coding monkeycuck libtard is pissed every time
>>714270159I think Ross talked about possible routes EU lawmakers could take on this issue but I don;t remember lol
>>714270159Dunno, depends of how the game works. Do you have an example?
>>714270159someone call me gay and retarded if I'm wrong but surely you could run a server for a console game on your own server/PC that consoles that can connect to? assuming your given the tools to do so. I know you can do it on DayZ
It's over, signatures per day are going down. Might as well give up now.
Iโm a single player only chad and I signed it because it makes Multiplayer games less profitable.
>>714269194>Jason Hallhe's a streamer not a real dev, could be considered a hobbyist at best, he abandoned his early access game so he can stream himself playing games for 14 hours a day
if you unironically support this you deserve to die
>>714270159The devs would need to provide a way for you to play, whether this be using some DNS solution or hosting a server next to your console, they'd just have to provide any way for you to play.
>>714269302>The target audience is children.No. I doubt autism games, boomer card games and porn games are targeted to children. That's just straight up false.
>Designed to waste your timeYeah that's the whole point of entretainment.
>Devs are incompetentNo, the kind of work and black magic that is poured into most games is baffleing. Don't blame devs for shit that the suits decide like shitty release dates or fucked worked schedules.
>its mostly slopTrue of all mediums. The bigger the medium the more slop there is, so its a m00t point. Literature as a whole isnt shit because Twilight exists.
>>714270260>he must be mentally exhausted dealing with all the bullshit.I feel like the whiplash of having completely given up hope on something you've spend almost an entire year on and then suddenly seeing it succeed takes a real toll on your mental stability.
>>714270334do it yourself nigger
900k people waiting
>>714269837Broken clocks, but I think some things are just natural slam dunks.
>>714267171its not retroactive
>>714270159One of the points Chet Faliszek mentions (
>>714270127). Most of all, it's a huge security risk. It ain't happening.
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>>714270287See I thought about that too since you can set servers up on PC and connect to them from console for a few games. So I guess console games going forward would need to have a server browser and be required to be crossplay with PC
>>714270159Dedicated servers designed for that console could run on PC (or support cross-platform play to begin with)
>>714270159not my problem
>>714270134>*bam bam*>CAM AN SCORE SOME FAHKING SIGS>*bam bam*
>>714270389>>714270471It keeps getting lower and lower ...
I am a libertarian market socialist and I support #StopKillingGames
>>714266934dangerously based
>>714270159Stop making those games. Make other games instead :)
>>714267878There would still be like a few hundred or even few tens of people playing the game, and they have the right to play the game they paid for. You having to do more work to make that work is literally not my problem devoid.
>>714270443>using security as your excuseKILL FLASH GOYIM YOU OWN NOTHING YOU CANNOT MAKE ART FUCK YOU
Teehee but use webp uwu
>>714267171>how does a law that affects corporations that make products harm the consumer
>>714268201You cared enough to comment on it, faggot.
>>714268498If anyone wants to risk 20 bullets to the back of their skull the retoractive rescinding of the extensive copyright terms back down to the historical 28. or however long it usually was in jewurope first i guess. hopefully the number isn't too cucked.
>>714270287It has also been possible to use the console itself to host a dedicated server.
>>714270070Every single video game company that kills its video games should have sufficed as villains
>>714270405Not even just a year, he wanted and prepared to do this for years but he was just looking for the right time.
I just cast 10 more votes
We got this
>>714270159Console makers would just have to allow users to connect to said servers. They are capable of allowing games to do that, they connect to servers already. They just don't allow it due to wanting to gatekeep online via their subscriptions and worries about hacking entrypoints.
>>714270070had the Moldโข made the videos instead, there would be no survivors
Ross wrestles with it everyday
>>714268852you will pry my d20 from my cold dead hand eurokike
>>714267494>for europoorsFor everybody actually
>>714270262learn to code low iq nigger faggot
>>714270068>ITS GONNA COST US MONEY, THATS NOT FREE>it's actually cheap and easy>NOT EVERYTHING IS ABOUYT MONEY YOURE OBSSESSED(((you))) cry out as you strike
>>714270230So you're the type of retard that I forgot: "politicians will figure it out". I mean I appreciate your innocence and how sheltered you are. But it will not last.
>>714270698Good thing I'm an ugly bastard.
>>714269837They had some big e-celebs explain it to them.
You WILL have rights and there's nothing you can do about it
>>714268814he needs all the monopoly money we make to feed his fat elf more foreskin fries. what else?
If this happens I will personally advocate for America to assist Europe with an affordable AC unit program.
>>714269476>Posts American politicians Yes, that's why we're not doing this in America. No hope there.
>>714270787NOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT
>companies get forced to do stuff for EU
>other regions start shit storms because only EU get the guaranteed fully playable experience forever
>it becomes a standard for all countries
A man can dream.
Devs will just abandon EU if any law against them passes, so europoos will be left with some Eurojank instead of the GotY games the rest of the world enjoys.
>>714270608Pretty much all the big ones do it. You can even call them ''the usual suspects''.
>EA does it a ton>Ubisoft does it a ton>SONY is now in the news with pulling videogames from the libraries of people>Microsoft did it with ''games for windows live''There is a reson why i shop only from GOG. That way at least the games i bought would run even if the publisher decides to go schizo greed mode.
i do not give a fuck about IP rights. you WILL give me your source code and you WILL give me your server binaries.