https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/microsofts-layoffs-to-top-9000-people-impacting-around-4-percent-of-the-firms-entire-workforce-we-continue-to-implement-organizational-changes-necessary-to-best-position-the-company
nowhere in the article does it even mention where the 9k figure came from
>>714271237 (OP)now that xbox is going service only, they don't need a lot of staff
>9000 people is only 4% of the firm
What a fucking bloated cesspool, what the hell?
>>714271237 (OP)You donโt need 9,000 people when you have AI and pajeet code monkeys to do all the work. White collar workers are so fucked. Itโs only going to get worse in the coming years. Hope you guys are okay with doing manual labor.
>>714271237 (OP)THERE'S NO WAY THAT CAN BE RIGHT
>I recognize that these changes come at a time when we have more players, games, and gaming hours than ever before. Our platform, hardware, and game roadmap have never looked stronger.
>>714271927>You dont need a lot of people>Just get a lot of retarded pajeetsWhile it can be hard to believe, pajeets in these cases do count as people.
Finally. Which garbage developers are getting shut down?
>>714271987It's true though. all of those are additive and can never decrease.
I was expecting most of the layoffs to be for the Xbox division
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>>714272047Yeah, but you can get 4 pajeets for the cost of one human.
>>714272251apparently the only laid off people from the gaming studios were from King and Zenimax
>>714272134It's mainly hitting King and Zenimax.
So mobile games.
>>714272296Pretty sure you get a whole lot more than 4. But that also inflates these numbers.
>>714271237 (OP)Surely 9000 is some kind of mistake.
>Microsoft is laying off 9000
>everyone is saying xbox
>article says the gaming division isn't taking the brunt of thr layoffs
Read the actual article. It's 9000 people globally from Microsoft. This includes people from their Azure program to other non-gaming stuff. The only gaming layoffs have been mostly Candy Crush and London office of Bethesda.
>>714272442I see some big bonuses this year. It takes real skill to take big companies that are earning huge profits, and running them into the ground in just a year or 2.
>>714272442This is because only EU layoffs have been announced. The US studios are in a few hours.
>>714271237 (OP)9000 people is just 4% of their numbers?
What the fuck
>>714272670>global layoffs announced>only EU layoffs
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>>714272564How many people do they have working on fucking candy crush
Vegeta, what does the new article say about the layoffs?
>>714272873King had about 2000 employees at one point. At one point they were releasing 3 new mobile games a year. But they've slowed down since 2017 and have been shutting down more games faster while releasing one game at a time. This was inevitable.
Looks like casualties are still trickling in
>barely anyone from the gaming division was laid off
Wow, itโs fucking nothing. You retards really need to stop listening to Jason โtoo many white men in this studioโ (((Schreier))).
>>714273170sea of thieves updates have already been pretty bad for a few years and now they're going to be even shittier
>>714273203No! It has to be 9000 devs! And big ones too! Not just the bloated Candy Crush team with 9 studios or the the part of Bethesda that made that shitty TES mobile game. Everwild! That got canceled and devs laid off. You know....the project no one talked about for 5 years after its one reveal. I'm sure Todd Howard is getting the noose later this afternoon. He has to.
>>714273170Sea of Thieves is the only thing keeping this studio afloat.
Pun very much intended.
>>714273352Depends. Are the layoffs just for people brought in to work on Everwilds? Ten years of time wasted.
>>714271237 (OP)I still remember Xbox comitting ritual suicide in front of Doritos Pope and he couldn't believe it, when the blood hit his own face it's like he had to reconfirm "Uuuh stick with Xbox 360, that's what you're saying?" But Xbox was already dead on the ground.
H-HOLD THE LINE XBOX NATION, THE FAMILY HAS WEATHERED THESE STORMS BEFORE.
TRUST THE PLAN, PHIL DONO IS PLAYING 5D CHESS TO *DESTROY* THE PONIES. TRUST THE FUCKING PLAN STOP SAYING WE ARE DEAD!!
>>714273683>thousands of people fired>makes it about himself
>>714273607It's the entire Everwilds team.
>>714273170WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY DOING ALL THESE YEARS
BRINGIN MORE THAN HYPE
BRINGIN LAYOFFS
>>714273683Someone check on Timdog.
>>714271927They're firing the fake email job women and the diversity kommisars
>Xbox has more than 200 workers
what the fuck do OVER 9000 people do at Xbox?
>>714273883They brought in people just to make that game and it took 10 years just for it to be unfinished. So counting King with its 9 studios making one mobile game a year, the London Bethesda studio making shitty mobile games and a team brought in to waste 10 years of time it sounds like Microsoft is actually cutting the wasteful parts off.
XBOX NATION WE NEED A COUNCIL MEETING
DOPPY
POPSOCK97
DIBDAB
AND IT PAINS ME TO SAY
TRUEDARTHN7
HAVE ALL DECLARED FOR THE PS5 CAMP
HOLD THE FUCKING LINE THIS IS WAR PEOPLE
>>714271237 (OP)>buy up a lot of AAA games sweatshops>lay all the people offBased, Microsoft is saving gaming
does anyone own a Xbox outside of the US?
https://youtu.be/J_JVVUnCWnY
We're still feeling the fallout from this interview. Geoff Keighley even gave Don a rope to pull himself and Xbox out of the hole but he just threw the entire brand down there.
I wouldn't be surprised if Don Mattrick was a secret Sony plant.
>>714274108It's not even 1/4 at xbox. It's not code monkeys or DEI hires or any of the retarded shit /v/ needs it to be. It's failed projects and bloated studios.
>>714271847My first thought as well
>>714272416https://www.thegamer.com/xbox-layoffs-bethesda-candy-crush-developer-king/
Shadenfreude.
>>714272760M$ is huge. Legendarily huge. They do like $20 billion quarterly, and that's a slow quarter.
>>714271237 (OP)>9000Holy shi-
>4%Holy shit
>>714274435>headline is bethesda when it's actually just Zenimax Media, which is a highly redundant publishing branch since the xbox buyoutDeath to game journalists
>>714271478It's in their earnings call
4% of its workforce is around 9000 people
https://www.geekwire.com/2025/microsoft-cuts-another-4-of-its-workforce-about-9000-jobs-in-continued-push-for-efficiency/
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/02/microsoft-laying-off-about-9000-employees-in-latest-round-of-cuts.html
Today we are sharing decisions that will impact colleagues across our organization. To position Gaming for enduring success and allow us to focus on strategic growth areas, we will end or decrease work in certain areas of the business and follow Microsoftโs lead in removing layers of management to increase agility and effectiveness. Out of respect for those impacted today, the specifics of todayโs notifications and any organizational shifts will be shared by your team leaders in the coming days.
I recognize that these changes come at a time when we have more players, games, and gaming hours than ever before. Our platform, hardware, and game roadmap have never looked stronger. The success we're seeing currently is based on tough decisions we've made previously. We must make choices now for continued success in future years and a key part of that strategy is the discipline to prioritize the strongest opportunities. We will protect what is thriving and concentrate effort on areas with the greatest potential, while delivering on the expectations the company has for our business. This focused approach means we can deliver exceptional games and experiences for players for generations to come.
>>714271237 (OP)>end or decrease workWhat fucking work? Nobody at Xbox does any work. When's the last time they released a single fucking game?
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Prioritizing our opportunities is essential, but that does not lessen the significance of this moment. Simply put, we would not be where we are today without the time, energy, and creativity of those whose roles are impacted. These decisions are not a reflection of the talent, creativity, and dedication of the people involved. Our momentum is not accidentalโit is the result of years of dedicated effort from our teams.
HR is working directly with impacted employees to provide severance plan benefits (aligned with local laws), including pay, healthcare coverage, and job placement resources to support their transition. Employees whose roles were eliminated are encouraged to explore open positions across Microsoft Gaming, where their applications will be given priority review.
Thank you to everyone who has shaped our culture, our products, and our community. We will move forward with deep appreciation and respect for all who have contributed to this journey.
>Do you forgive Phil?
How do 9000 people fail to produce a single videogame?
>>714271237 (OP)>global force is ~225.000 people >more than 1/3 of all US postal servicethat's a lot of people.
>>714274739Do I forgive Phil? I want to know how he still has a job. He's had 10 years to try and convince people to buy an Xbox. The PS5 is outselling the Xbox 3:1.
Nintendo recovered from the Wii U with the Switch so it wasn't fantastical that Xbox could do the same following the Xbox One.
>>714271608its entire microsoft, not xbox
>>714274790incompetence mostly. I don't think those people did nothing of their days, but trend chasing made those studios enters infinite loops of projects reboots because they could never finish anything before the new trend pops up and they have to start something else
Xbox is getting out of the hardware business and going software / service only. They're gonna kick back, relax, and collect Sony and Gamepass money. This was Phil's master plan all along.
>>714274643Yo thank you XboxGPT
inb4 they will hire more indians
>>714275116This. And throw incompetent management and procedures which can bloat any project. Devs are getting more afraid of releasing games and getting memed on and having hidden bullshit put in by workers. So now more devs have people dedicated to approving the minute shit anyone adds to the game, reviewing everything inch by inch and making shit simple so it doesn't require as much QA.
>>714274553>9k people is only 4 percent of Xbox's work forceHoly shit no wonder they can't get shit done they're bloated as all hell
>>714273170>over a decade and nothing to show for it
>>714272251The opposite of whatever Jizz says is true.
>>714275415>it's Microsoft not Xbox>said so in the article you linked to>said multiple times in the thread
>>714275454good morning sir
MULTIPLE STUDIO CLOSURES INCOMING
PLACE YOUR BETS NOW LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSZIej-ZraE&list=RDHSZIej-ZraE&start_radio=1
>>714275596compulsion games
>>714275246Satya Nadella's cousins need to eat...
>>714273170Bro how can these guys struggle so much to make a single fucking game
>>714271987Of course he says that publicly, everything he says is always aimed at investors. While Microsoft's numbers have been going up, we got no good idea about how dire Microsoft's actual profit margins are.
>cancel games 10 years in development
OOF
>>714275843If your game isn't ready in 10 years, then it probably will never be ready.
>buy all the IPs & studios
>do nothing
>shut down studios
Gamers can't stop winning!
>>714275991This. So far all the gaming cuts make sense. I don't know how this is a fail for Xbox but people are desperate for it to be so. The real issue is this not happening sooner.
>>714271237 (OP)Awesome! Morale must be real high for all Xbox studios - can't wait to see what their devs cook up when they know they'll be able to look forward to moments like this after launching a great product!
>>714276045>95% is westoid crapNothing of value is lost.
>>714275134If this ends up making Xbox series S/X a lot cheaper than I might actually buy one for the backwards comparability but I suspect they'll just double down and raise the price to recoup instead so I'd rather wait for the whole Xbox department to get gutted and hopefully Microsoft will eventually wise up and release their Xbox emulation on PC at some point.
xbawks needs to be studied with how badly they fucked up after 360
>>714276124>"the layoffs will continue until morale is up"
>>714271237 (OP)Normally I'd celebrate but he's just going to replace them all with H1B jeets
>>714272827I know this may sound weird to you. But normally the people who got fired has to be told first, not journos on twitter.
>>714273170Rare is such a joke now
>>714271847He predicted the future.
>>714276124>"I can't believe it. I'm not allowed to work for failed projects for a decade."I guarantee everyone laid off knew it was happening. Morale isn't down unless it was always down.
>>714272827It is still early in the morning in the USA, American employees just don't know if they have a job anymore and will hear about it in hour or few.
>>714276438>global layoffs>pretend it's only the EU>get mad when called outI know this is hard to believe but people who are wrong should be called out. Teehee!
>>714273170Why the fuck has rare been so lazy
>>714276289All they had to do was to be the console version of doing nothing and winning with consistent focus on 15-30 year old normalfag guys and improved performance every generation, but no, they could not settle for just making a lot of guaranteed money.
>>714276095MS was allowed to buy Activision for this?
Layoffs after layoffs
Serie S now costs more than a PS5, series X sparkly editon costs more than a PS5pro
Standard Gamepass no longer gives day 1 games
>>714276592Who cares? So far it's been shit teams and bloat. Let them add more from the US. It won't be the goldmine of controversy you want it to be. TES6 isn't getting canceled, the Japanese division isn't getting canned, Master Chief isn't getting executed in the street. More scraps at best that'll get overhyped here as the downfall.
>>714273683When are they going to drink the koolaid
>>714276865That's typical from acquisitions. Old company wants to sell so they keep a bunch of people to up the value. New company looks at what everyone was doing and adjusts. You look at King's output and tell me that's worthy 9 studios and 2000 workers.
>>714276579They did something in those 10+ years, it's criminal to cancel a game like that when you're worth 4 trillions.
>>714271237 (OP)>225k employeesyeah sure microsoft has a fuckload of products but still that's crazy bloat.
So what the fuck where they thinking when they decided to buy Activision and Bethesda for 100 Billion? The leaked Emails from Phil showed that they were excited for the console market, and then 5 years later, they will kill off their hardware division and focus on Game Pass.
>>714277059Use the assets and code for something else then. Absolute waste to pay an entire studio for ten years for a project that isn't anywhere complete enough to show anything for. If it takes 10 years to produce, it better make the money back. That's a titanic gamble at this point if it's not even close to done. Better to dodge another Concord.
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>>714271237 (OP)Why should I care?
>>714277369Console wars. If I have to play a single fucking game today I'm going to lose my shit.
>>714277369just laugh with us, their summer games show was "lol we have nothing to show for buying every studio"
we all knew this was coming
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>>714277483And somehow I still found more interesting games than Sony's and Nintendo's shows put together.
>>714273170Does sea of thieves generate infinite money?
>>714277670Nah, they aren't killing Obsidian while they are still releasing The Outer Worlds. They'll probably be put to work on New Vegas Remastered after this. Microsoft is standing firm and giving them New Vegas because Bethesda is like a dragon hoarding a gold stash, and they can't even get ES6 out.
>>714273683I love how this guy naturally had the JUST eyes. No one needed to edit them in he just looked like that naturally.
>>714276592>>714276438>workers need to be told about layoffs before the internetThat's sweet. Ask GM, Tesla and dev teams what it's like to just show up to locked offices.
resetera said its almost all people in non technical fields like HR and Marketing
Why did they buy all these companies just to have the privilege of shutting them down?
>>714278027What company got shut down?
>>714277954THE AGE OF AI IS HERE
>>714275596The Initiative has been hit, Perfect Dark cancelled
>Ninja Theory releases Hellblade 2
>flops hard
>Machine Games' Indiana Jones slop barely does ok
>Compulsion release South of Mindnight
>flops hard
>nobody likes the new Fable
>nobody cares about the new Perfect Dark
>nobody cares about Nigger Revolution
>Everwild and State of Decay 3 are money laundering schemes
Total Xbox death
10000 (the extra 1000 are nepo hires from the previous 9000) indians will now be deposited to work for a fraction of the cost you're welcome
>>714276438"has to" and "need to" are things that sound good, but means nothing really
you HAVE TO be a good person, but will you? no
>>714278252Noooo you can't layoff those employees. You have to let them release another flop in 10 years!
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More cancellations.
>>714271237 (OP)Lmao, Microsoft wanted to make a Genshin Impact killer and it killed their gaming division instead.
Western companies aren't doing well anymore thanks to their hubris, lack of talent, and leftist policies.
>>714278410>dev since 2018what the fuck
You fuckers hate xbox, why are you sad?
>>714278410>had been in development since 2018literally what the fuck goes on at microsoft? do they just let companies steal off their wallet for years without checking in on anything? is this the power of top to bottom dei hiring?
>>714278537I wish I could scam money out of a mega corporation for almost 10 years.
>>714278586That's the real issue to me. A lot of wasteful projects. Its good they're cutting this shit off now but why did it take so long to get to this point?
>>714277059Sunk cost fallacy.
>>714278410>Everwild was in development since 2014 had had a single trailer shown and nothing else>ESO2 was in development since 2018 and had literally nothing shown whatsoeverGenuinely why am I supposed to be upset at any of this? I know COVID happened but if I accomplished literally NOTHING at my job for seven years straight no fucking shit I'd get fired
>>714278410>the project has benn in development since 2018Just how? What's fucking wrong with the industry nowadays?
>>714278546name one notable game they have released within the last 15 years
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE TELL ME THEY FINALLY KILLED 343
based, woketroons deserve to be homeless
>>714278802They really do treat boys like defective girls, don't they
>>714278771If the devs weren't producing it's the management's fault for not giving them any guidance or assistance. What did Phil buy them for if he wasn't going to help them produce their games?
Their jobs are probably safe btw
>>714271987that can't be a real quote... what an absolute clown this guy is
>>714275770>Xbox>ProfitThe only time Xbox made a profit was the 360
>>714278958These talented people got into the video game industry while you can't even keep a job.
>>714278807Money laundering
>>714278802you can tell from the word choice alone that this article is biased, most likely from a gender studies field or another closely related pseudo science nitpicking specific stats or rigging the study to produce a specific result
So will Xbox Series X consoles get heavily discounted as Microsoft exists the console making business? Might buy one for cheap if that happens just in case it gets a full hack in the future to let it run ISOs of Xbox and 360 and xbox 1 games.
Is it finally the year of Xbox old Philly boy?
>>714279051PS3 even ended up outselling 360 in the end. Xbox may have won the battle but Sony won the war.
>>714278958All of those got fired years ago
Including Bonnies Ross
>>714279375No, that was Nintendo with the Wii
>>714275770>Of course he says that publicly, everything he says is always aimed at investors. While Microsoft's numbers have been going up, we got no good idea about how dire Microsoft's actual profit margins are.Just two more weeks.
>>714279584Wii sold hardware but never sold games.
Xbox got infected with the Red Rings of death
PS3 architecture is too different and so all ports ran worst on it. Oblivion took a year after it came out on xbox to come to PS3. Then the PSN got hacked for 3 months.
>>714279634This post is an Xbox
actual footage of Phil Spencer firing people at Xbox
https://youtu.be/bnYVH_Rrp00?si=QUnhn62200AwSbTU
>>714279743Regardless, Nintendo won 7th Gen
>>714278802After being here for 18 miserable years I can't say /v/ does a very good job refuting these allegations.
>>714278872Getting shut down and halo development is being moved over to pic related
You know what, fuck 'em. I was happy playing on Xbox, using tricks to get my games cheap from other regions but MS was getting my money. They closed all those loopholes so now I've left Xbox behind. They don't want my money so they won't get it and they can BURN
>>714278802Kek I bet the tranny tranny cannot name five non-violent games with identifible characters.
> Uhh, Sims, Stardew Valley and that other one.I'm actually serious. I love non-violent games, but many (simulator, puzzles for example) don't really have characters to talk about, while whole other genres (point and click) are pretty much dead.
It's crazy how him leaving fucked everything up. Mattrick started pushing for the Kinect shit which flopped and made the PS3 end up somehow outsell the 360 which was released earlier and much cheaper, then there was the Xbox One launch, and then came Phil with his "painfully mid games only" strategy that pretty much killed the brand
>>714274236Mostly brand loyal poors who love sports
>>714271237 (OP)pretty cool
more please
EA/UBISOFT layoffs when
IT'S OVER 9 FUCKING THOUSAND
>>714279994regardless of Mattrick, the PS3 would've outsold Xbox in the long term once PS3 reached the 3rd world followed by PS2's success
only deluded murrimutts think otherwise
>>714279952You got me. I've been slain!
>>714276045Microsoft has been doing this since forever. Think MechAssault, Crimson Skies, fuck they still own Shadowrun vidya rights and do nothing with it..
>>714280273YYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSS QUEEN SLAYYYYYYH
>>714280380Every company does it
Copyright laws are fucking cancer
Hm yes, that's very sad and unfortunate.
When is the next Starfeld update? Maybe all these cuts and changes are going to mean we get that faster and Bethesda quits the radio silence shit they always seem to do.
Glad Microsoft is removing projects not going anywhere. Thatโs how you end up with junk that you spend millions on. No reason a game like everwilds should still not be finished when itโs funded by a trillion dollar company
>>714271237 (OP)Maybe they can finally improve Windows for gaming
>>714280876It's/v/ so I know saying anything about starfield is kind of pointless but I'm expecting something at gamescom. I was pissed about no update news in June but it turns out that voice actor strike stopped some starfield VAs from working on anything. The Sarah Morgan VA just reported getting back to work a couple weeks ago.
>>714277340>Better to dodge another ConcordThis flopped harder than Concord, no players, not a single dime made, over a decade of development wasted kek.
>>714275596Hopefully Obsidian, Machine Games and Arkane.
>>714281639>didn't have to buy the studio for the game>didn't have to pay hundreds of millions on marketingnah
>>714281218I'm honestly hoping it's before then, but if it's going to not be shadow dropped before then, it'll be Gamescom. I was also upset about no Starfield update at the Xbox event, but like you said, I get why if the VA strike was still going. Just would have been nice to see anything about it or at least some screenshots of what they are doing. Radio silence sucks when you've heard nothing since November 2024 save for a QoL update.
>>714277810>They'll probably be put to work on New Vegas Remastered after this.
>>714281767No chance in hell they touch Obsidian, Obsidian is literally their only functional studio
>>714271237 (OP)Let's only straight white males and asian males are affected.
>>714279830It won the normie audience, not the hardcore gaming audience that actually buys games.
>>714273170Wtf, I bought an Xbox just for this game!
>>714271237 (OP)we did it, we stopped killing games!
>>714280256The Xbos 360 was big on the third world because of piracy.
Reminder that Microsoft is replacing most of its coders with Indians on visas that will work for peanuts
>>714281936Avowed was a huge flop and The Outer Worlds 2 is dead on arrival.
>>714278586AAA is a logistical nightmare
>>714279994Peter just had that dog in him man, still does honestly. He just got old. No one else since Peter has had the capacity to network and secure deals with 3rd parties like he could, and its too late now to try again.
>>714281860Bethesda is married to its hype cycle. Unless it's going to release within 6 months they don't want to talk about it all. I don't know if they thought the strike and its consequences were widely known and figured they didn't have to say anything. I don't know. But the cloak and dagger about updates is getting old
>>714282301Only because of shit managment. E33 reached AAA standards of quality under a much smaller budget.
>>714271237 (OP)All of Microsoft, not just Xbox. That said, we'll see how much damage this does do to Xbox soon enough.
>>714282250It's always been this. Pajeets. AI is literally going suicidal when asked to do anything beyond a simple string of code for beginner python classes. Cheap labor is the key. Until people stop buying it they have no reason to stop.
>>714271237 (OP)>an overbloated industry is slowly healingnooooo what the heck will all these companies do without thousands of project managers, hr personnel, and inclusivity consultants???
>>714282250I will tell you a secret anon. MAGAtards don't work, they complain here like you. It's only the left and trannys that work, and replacing those with indians is still better.
>>714279994Kinect didn't flop - not up front, anyways - and that's the problem with it. Kinect had about a 1:3 attach rate on 360 when it was all said and done - that's like 25-30 million units sold. Its success lead Matttick to throw away the core that Moore did so much to build up. He then proceeded to take even worse lessons away from that experience, which is how we got the Xbone reveal. People seem to think that shit happened in a vacuum but no, Kinect's success on 360 is definitely part of why that shitshow happened.
>>714273683>staying off social media for the rest of the DAYIs this really how the rest of the world operates?
They need to tell you when they are not using the social media for 1 (one) day?
>>714282368>mfw watched this kino on the big screen in 2003
>>714283005That's correct. Both AI and pajeets are problems.
>>714282841Xbox had cornered the dudebro audience and it was abandoned the moment they went all in for the Kinect.
>>714271237 (OP)https://youtu.be/fGx6K90TmCI?si=ni2kR2odrUpPariZ
>>714283012It's just letting your network of people know that you're not going to respond to a thousand messages. A lot of them work together and you really don't want to hear the desperate pleas, mental breakdowns and vent sessions from a hundred people in the same day after a layoff.
>>714271237 (OP)9000 pajeets getting replaced by AI
>>714282096I'm fairly certain more people bought games on 360 and Wii than PS3, but this is the MS shitshow imploding thread so you can run your victory lap in here Snoy, before Marathon gets canceled in a month or two.
>>714283472>9000 pajeets getting replaced by AI*9000 Whites getting replaced by jeets
FTFY, it's gonna get even worse.
>>714274536Gotta get those clicks!!!!
>>714277332The problem was that once they spent that kind of money, all eyes were on them. Now every little thing they do is scrutinized. XBox lasted this long because it was almost a side thing and the game market was still growing. Now its shrinking and XBox isn't any closer to their promised goals. So they get the axe. Activision Blizzard buyout ended up killing XBox funny enough
Sony wins again baybee
>>714282450>But the cloak and dagger about updates is getting old100% agree. I think it might be partially due to the fact that mentioning Starfield is still a problem and they don't want to bring more bad PR on themselves, but at some point they need to realize that they have fans who, despite the constant shitting on the game and their tastes, like the game anyway. Just throw us a bone or something.
>>714282673>AI is literally going suicidal when asked to do anything beyond a simple string of code for beginner python classes.Wouldn't the solution be to hire/commision good coders to feed the A.I their data? Not like you can't find them in the west and east Asia. If A.I can only get good with good data than feeding it bad code seems to be a mistake.
/v/ is celebrating when it's a nothingburger and gaming is fucked right now while Xbox been dead and irrelevant
>>714283776>gaming is fucked right nowIt needs to get even more fucked, accelerate the death of the AAA industry.
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>>714272251This Jez Corden?
>โI heard that development on Everwild is going well. They've nailed the gameplay loop now, and we should be seeing that in the future.โhttps://x.com/oliver_drk/status/1940427182419124384?t=TLBKhs_7cZZY7BskY1_gvg&s=19
>>714271237 (OP)rip bozo
rest in piss you wont be missed
here's hoping playstation is next
>>714278958Iirc 343 got halved
I still wanna know how the fuck do you fuck up the release of a Halo multiplayer mode. I would have gotten behind Forge not being out by release but everything else? How?
>>714278958Part of me wants to look at these layoffs as a positive development as the gaming industry suffers from a major competency crisis (pic related) but you're probably right about the devs who actually do serviceable work being the only ones affected
>>714283523Both Xbox 360 and PS3 had more third party sales than the dildo console.
>>714284450>Why?Because it's complete shit and trend chasing live service garbage 70-80% of the time
>>714284450The average AAA title takes forever to come out now and they almost always suck, this industry needs to burn to the ground and be rebuilt from the ground up.
>>714282801Shut your cunt indian mouth
>>714284450Why not? AAA has been dying since about 2009. We are already in an accelerated state with the live service nonsense.
>>714284503>third party salesIs there a reason you're excluding other first party games? That being said, I don't care about your fantasy war in your head, fanboy. The PS3 was God awful and I had/have all 3 consoles.
>>714284086Making a good studio is hard. 343 wasn't great to begin with and they probably don't retain any talent. The managment is also clearly turbo fucked.
>>714284736>Is there a reason you're excluding other first party games?Not excluding it but it's not where the big bucks are. Only Nintendo makes money from selling first party games, while third party software is the main bussiness of Sony and Xbox.
>>714284450>insane budgets>ridiculously long dev cycles>live service shit>microtransactions>mediocre at best
>>714281981>Whites and Asians>Working at Pajeetsoft
>>714285042That halfway sucks. I'm not sure it'd be good but reviving PD as a parkour shooter a la Mirror's Edge isn't the worst thing that could've happened.
>>714285042But they've shown gameplay already, and it looked good... Wtf is wrong with Microsoft?
>>714271847came here to post this
>>714271608they're explicitly "layoffs" because they're the americans around you losing their jobs but in reality they're firing 9000 americans and hiring 90,000 jeets
>>714285042I'm glad. There's no way a modern perfect dark game could possibly reach the same level of quality as the N64 game.
>>714285424Yes? It was a vertical slice of course but it's gameplay nonetheless.
>>714285548That wasn't even a vertical slice. If it wasn't pre-rendered is was heavily scripted.
>>714271237 (OP)AI do the needful for Microsaar!
>>714285370it was a vertical slice with alot of scripted events/animations. it was never running in game like that. my guess is that they went to check up on it and saw the actual gameplay and knew it was better to kill it. my guess is that Fable is on the chopping block if it doesnt have a showcase in the next few months
>>714271237 (OP)good. I only play games made by AI
>>714285625>heavily scriptedWell duh, it's made for a trailer.
>>714282450>Unless it's going to release within 6 months they don't want to talk about it allThat hasn't been true since Microsoft acquired them. They announced TES 6 seven years ago.
>>714283081Me too, anon. Hard to believe it was 22 years ago now.
>>714271237 (OP)Only 9000? I was promised 10% of the workforce..
>>714285625At that point just say that the witcher 4 tech demo is a part of their gameplay as well.
If it's so scripted might as well be a tech demo too.
>>714283564No, the order is:
>whites make good company>MBAs and assorted ilk start to bleed company for maximum return>whites replaced by jeets>(you are here)>jeets replaced by AI>company's only employees are top execs and bottom tier people that are physically required to maintain equipment (like what keeps the AI working and the executive bathrooms)
>>714271927>Import pajeets for lowskilled jobs>Outsource higher skilled jobs without a care for quality>Chuck everything else into AI>Cost of living will not stop shooting upHow exactly do these vampires expect this to end? People are going to be ripping eachother apart to get shit jobs, let alone something decent. There's going to be mass rioting the likes of which we've never seen in our lifetimes.
>>714278537that is normal development time for big budget games now
>>714285509Whats it matters? I thought the meme was they are Indians for years. Plus they haven't produced anything of quality. I know you have a hate boner for Microsoft but im.not buying this shit.
>>714271237 (OP)They are hiring the exact same number of h1b's in the exact same job roles at the same time as well. /g/ is having a meltdown over it.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/joshkohnbw_unfortunately-i-was-affected-by-todays-activity-7346188517581942786-bVPD
>layoffs at Raven
SOMEONE BUST THEM OUT OF THE CODSLOP MINES BEFORE THEY FUCKING DIE
>>714286101NOOOO NOT LE HECKIN' ZENIMAXERINOOOOO
>Xbox has negative exclusives
>they even hit cawadoody devs with lay offs
lmao?
>>714286219>huge business continues to do business
>>714271237 (OP)I have 0 love for microshit, it was fun for a while seeing them as clowns, but then they decided to buy up every studio under the sun and make them somehow even worse. Fuck them
>>714285949TES6 was only announced because retards really thought another TES game wasn't going to be made. They even admit regret over making an early announcement. Starfield was revealed and slated for a six month release until the delay. Starfield updates and the Shattered Space marketing cycle all followed their rule of mentioning nothing until its nearly out. Fallout 76 and ESO are managed by entirely different teams.
>>714286236Raven didn't deserve this fate
>>714271237 (OP)They get triple the amount of jeets for the same money.
>>714286236>>714286316I'm guessing the US govt no longer bankrolling their propaganda franchise hence the layoffs.
>Buy as many devs as possible just to take them out of Sony's ecosystem
>Backpedal in court at the last moment
>Do absolutely nothing with any of them
>Keep making empty promises to your customer base
>Fire all these people en masse two years later
>>714286130>How exactly do these vampires expect this to endhttps://youtu.be/zStn70Ot4r0
Man i wish i had spencers job security. Just fuck up every day and still not get fired.
>>714286316They want to see how far they can replace people with AI before everything goes to shit.
>>714285992Kek, tendie utterly raped.
And Sony had the PSP out at the same time.
Don't worry xboxsisters, Todd will save us.
>>714286316Call of Duty is transitioning into online-only live service slop.
>>714286620Todd and his slop are absolute reddit. Go back.
>>714286650It's been that since Black Ops 4
>>714286683Reddit hates Todd
>>714271237 (OP)isnt it great that microsct bought all those studios and developers?
>>714271237 (OP)Any layoffs at blizzard announced yet?
>>714286730reddit loves Bethesda and Blizzard
>>714275072and what do you think microsoft needs 200 000 employees for?
>>714285992>vgchartzThe state of (You)
>>714286863>copehttps://youtu.be/K5KeAXu62M8
>>714286236>>714286316>spend $75 billion on CoD just to cut spending on CoDWhat do you call this move
>>714286839Imagine all the nasty shit she does for Mr. Goldberg to stay in that office.
>>714286863>Ninepedophile pretending to be an Xbot uses their exact numbers to prop up the Wii over the PS3 >the moment he sees that PS3 actually sold more software he defaults to meme posting The average Ninpedo behavior.
>>714286839She looks miserable.
>>714287105you are completely clueless about modern society
>>714274053WE can only hope.
>>714274186>sweatshopsYou bunch of pussies don't know what sweating is.
>>714287285NTA but those lip injections aren't gonna pay themselves.
>>714274327bloated with woke.
>>714271237 (OP)>Blade and Perfect Dark cancelled I bought the white Xbox for them...
>>714274553it's ok
they'll replace them with h1b
xbox will soon come with free diarrrhea
>>714286839 I work the same type of cushy WFH nothing job for 80k and am blindingly furious at vids like this because it makes it more likely companies will crack down and ruin my cushy quasi-NEET lifestyle
>>714287647almost all jobs are worthless and basically adult baby sitting. dont worry.
>>714271847I needed that laugh.
>>714287770thank god, I haven't put clothes on or left my home in weeks and am not looking to start now.
New jew bleet: Turn 10 (Forza)'s workforce has been halved
Additionally from some random guy with an Asuka profile: Halo is getting layoffs too
>>714287164I sometimes forget I'm in conversations with grown men on here with sub 70 IQs, like yourself. Go ahead and keep being a fanboy lunatic. VGchartz has never been accurate.
>>714288180You dumb bruh.
>>714288149>Forza layoffsUnsurprising. The autistic raceist market seems like it'd have razor thin profits anyway.
>CoDOdd, because isn't it and Candy Crush the only things really making cash in ActiBlizz?
>Halo StudiosI wonder if the rumors about MS firing everyone and just licensing the Halo IPs will end up being true? It's not like they've done anything with the Halo IP except lose money anyway.
>>714288149thank god
the withering of Xbox will soon be over, and it will be allowed to die
>>714282250>AI: Actual IndianMany such cases
>>714281981That's president of Xbox? No wonder its so fucking trash.
Perfect Dark just got confirmed deaded, too.
>the withering of Xbox will soon be over, and it will be allowed to die
Very good
PHIL DOMINUS MAXIMUS AURELIUS SPENCER...
ngl, Microsoft is too big to fail, but if they did completely close down Xbox and never sold off all the devs/IPs they have, that would be the funniest fucking thing. Grim, but MS has the opportunity to do the funniest god damn thing.
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i remember being so delusional I thought Microsoft buying Activision was going to be a good thing
>consolidate the industry
>lay everyone off
incredible
>>714288857Well, the good thing is that all the activision and blizzard IPs will be dead. I view that as an absolute win.
>>714288767I can see them selling Xbox to another American company.
>>714288906>wait, Phil was actually a sleeper agent from Sony this whole time?!>and Jim Ryan and Herman Hulst were actually sleeper agents from Microsoft?!I'd believe it at this point.
>>714271237 (OP)I know shitposting about this is fun and all but let's be honest. Absolutely nothing of value was lost. Turn10 lost 50% of its staff? Oh nooo... it's not like they spent the largest amount of time and money developing the worst entry in the franchise that turned out to be unoptimized garbage and a commercial flop or anything!
Oh no, Everwilds is getting cancelled?! Please not the woke slop in development hell! Fable, Perfect Dark?! Somebody think of the poor woke devs who will now have to find work at mcdonalds...
Seriously, trimming the fat is good actually.
>>714288857That's beyond delusion, anon. You're into full on dementia with a disastrous opinion like that.
>>714284736Filtered. I had the ps3 and it was way better than the nut box 360
>>714271237 (OP)WHAT? NINE THOUSAND!? THERES NO WAY THAT CAN BE RIGHT
>>714275770>While Microsoft's numbers have been going up, we got no good idea about how dire Microsoft's actual profit margins aremicrosoft could actively lose money and they'd be propped up by the US government, they're a major part of the NSA spyware apparatus and american tech soft power strongarming. that said they probably do make a profit on Azure and b2b licenses, but the forecasts probably aren't great
>>714279831At first we would have to see the source of said allegations, but they never show up.
It's just current day version of
>violent videogames make people violent because this violent person said they once played videogames
>>714289047wait fable was cancelled? please tell me that's real
>>714288402Would be neat to get a bunch of cool halo spinoff games. Apparently they pitched a game like helldivers years ago but microsoft execs said no. They seem obsessed with making the same game over and over
>>714280876DLC coming at gamescom
>>714286760any updates on this? like blizzard has so many worthless people but so far they only announced multiple cod studio being affected
>>714289335Who knows what the fuck the MS execs are thinking (or snorting) with Halo. It was a system seller/brand definer in the early 2000s and created the dudebro gaming audience, but fast forward to 2025 and they're breaking their backs to inject woke filth like Disability Pride Month skins and shit. The entire gaming division there has a one-two punch of being poisoned by woke and managed by jeets. It must be absolute hell on earth.
>>714289495Only Blizz news was their QA teams being told to work from home today. Nothing else so far
wonder how long until they realise all those indian geniuses can barely load a library on python
>>714283726this exists in the form of take-home technical tasks for job positions that don't actually exist
>retrain a bunch of people on creation engine and have them whip up a brand new open world rpg IP while bethesda does their own thing
its literally free money, that genre of 'go where you want, pick up everything, action lite-physics sandbox' rpg has like 6 titles across 30 years of game development which is insane to me
>>714284736>>7142891012006 was 20 years ago. Jesus christ, move on.
>>714287647 me but for $135k at a fintech company. Just keep your head down and save up a cushion for when the hammer drops. Between projected severance, 26 weeks of unemployment, and $25k in my checking account I could coast for 4 and a half years before I run out of money
>>714289047Did you even read the thread? Everyone is happy about this news, anon.
>>714289681Not my fault modern console wars are shit. Nintendo is winner by default of doing their own thing.
All those jobs will be replaced by Indians :^)
I spent my life savings on a 3rd hand Xbox series S so just I could play Perfect Dark, Everwild and Fable...
>>714290084that'd be an improvement actually
>>714289616>Only Blizz news was their QA teams being told to work from home today. Nothing else so farfuack
I'm thinking the diablo team is getting raped
>>714290084dem H-1B visas coming in handy now
>>714278410Western studios really are money wasters. Even with seven years of development they canโt produce shit.
>>714289654Training takes more than one quarter and we don't think past that here.
would stalker been canceled if this happened 2-3 years ago?
>Phil Spencer will be retiring from his role as CEO of Microsoft Gaming after the launch of the next generation Xbox.
It's literally over, Xbros.
>>714289981 I've been playing like the grasshopper in summer instead of saving for the winter unfortunately. If the worst happens I'll just claim economic hardship and drain my 401k, I can easily last 10-15 years of NEETdom off that alone
>>714289616All the woke shit was a mandate from heaven.
>>714288857>>714289075It was a good thing, now they're going to die faster!
>>714290320jokes aside, obsidian noted how easy it was to use their stuff, imagine what a studio given lots of time and support could do, at least technical-wise
Inxile status: not exiled
>>714290339Princess Sarah will be the next CEO of Mircosoft Gaming <3
Why didn't you guys buy games? These people are fired because of YOU.
>>714271237 (OP)>accidentally fire important people>forced to contract them back at a steep premium>???>MICROSHIT SAAR
Xcuck paid shills in a few months: CoD, Gears, Forza, Halo and wtv Bethesda shits out is enough, whatever Xbox does is the future of gaming!
>>714290531>you dont need important people if you dont care about the product qualityMasterful move by Microsoft
>>714290523Microsoft made the ingenious move of having their main selling point be the act of not buying games.
>>714290523Microsoft told us not to buy games, Game Pass is the future right?
>>714290915We have a console for people who think like that. It's called the Playstation 5.
>>714286376They're doing their part to accelerate the death of AAA. Most based thing they've done since kill the memory card with on-board hard drives for consoles. I await the great implosion.
>>714285992>Not even 100m over nintendo
>>714290523I bought Gamepass saar!
How could this happen? Microsoft did not do the needful!
>>714282301its not, the actual big problem with AAA is almost the exact same problem as govt bloat. They contract out to another contract who also contracts out and it daisy chains into this shitfuck of a mess where no one knows what anyone is doing not to mention one of the contractors is a total scam studio who intentionally withholds information to intentionally siphon funds. Rare was pretty much just a lame duck because all the talent left and 95% of the studio didn't even play video games. Its a common phenomena now that most VIDEO GAME studios have a staff who don't even play video games. This is one of the giant keys to why modern games suck.
>>714291603Modern AAA games, plenty of other studios where that isn't an issue.
>>714289607literally me
i will now play your game
>>714278410did you people forget for how long TES is in development now?
>>714279297it speaks about mens social superiority, of course it is. Strange is, even despite of this study, despite having to please investors, it's okay to just push money towards trying to manipulate your audience in favor of doing whats profitable.
>>714271237 (OP)GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
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>>714286101MS doesn't use teams?
>>714291603Some anon just needs to post the excellent 'growth of bureaucracy' diagram. It illustrates this point perfectly.
>>714292304Probably for teleconferencing stuff and meetings, and Slack is just for messaging.
Teams also sucks ass and I've never known a single person who likes it or talks good about it.
t. techdevanon
>>714287285please fill us in on how modern society works then
>>714271237 (OP)how does phil spencer continue to have a job?
>>714286189the CEO has been an indian for a while now
but he had to wait for the right time, which is now to jeetmax
>>714292497He's apparently retiring 'after the release of the next Xbox generation,' so I guess Nadella finally said 'Get out.' Or maybe they just paid him a huge fucking severance to retire and live comfortably without caring anymore. I'd take that offer
So this is the level Xbox needs to sink to for /v/ to even shitpost about them nowadays. Grim.
>>714271237 (OP)maybe they saw that it only takes about 30 people to make a good game and thought "why are we employing hundreds at these studios, what do they actually do?"
>>714292643It's been worse. You actually couldn't have an Xbox thread back in 2011-12. The Kinect era poisoned their reputation beyond the capacity for sincere discussion. This is civil compared to those days.
>>714271237 (OP)>id software and Bethesda not affected>same goes to age devsthose are safe, everyone else, mainly Blizzard GET FUCKED!
>>714292852At least people talking about them back then. Nobody even gave a shit when the current gen console was released.
Outside of shitting on the series s that is.
>>714293014Xbox One killed the brand and the terrible management afterwars cemented their demise.
Good riddance, they brought nothing but cancer to the industry that Sony and Nintendo were very much eager to mimic.
>>714293014That's just it - they weren't. Kinect turned Xbox into a laughing stock.
>>714292696this tbqh. It's unbelievable how many games have 6+ year dev timelines nowadays. COVID was a massive disruptor but what the FUCK are some of these companies doing?
Everwild
>Development began around 2014Perfect Dark Reboot
>Development began around 2018Unannounced MMORPG from Zenimax
>Been in development since 2018Games like e33 took 5 years from complete studio inception to completion. any company that has a dev timeline longer than 6 years is a fucking circus.
>>714271987I work in IT of a relatively large international company and have the 'pleasure' of having to negotiate with Microsoft about licensing cost of our MS products. They are absolutely ruthless in trying to up the pricing for just about everything and have a 0 discount policy no matter how large your org is. Like 3 years ago it was completely different. They also push their AI shit so aggressively, basically everything you buy now needs to come with AI that you HAVE to pay for. I am fairly certain they have put tons of money into the AI thing and can't find anyone who actually wants it, hence them penny pinching hard now. It is so bad, they are *worse* than Adobe now.
>>714292304>even MS knows their own product is shit and just uses Slack insteadKWAB
>>714271237 (OP)People are literally losing free medicare and Microsoft does this. Hundreds are going to die!
The only reason they still even make money now is because they're essentially the tech branch of the USA governmment.
Their whole business is telemetry.
>>714293598This is exactly why I think these cuts are a good move. You're not going to say it's taking 7-10 years for a Perfect Dark Reboot and the bit you did show looked like shit then think your still in good standing. Even if you have Microsoft money, you can't keep throwing money into shit you know is going to be garbage and received like garbage.
>>714293814They can always enlist in the army and die for Israel
>>714293814maybe they should have thought about that before they made master chief WOKE!!!
>>714271847Fucking kek. Well done.
Lmao where are all the snoygers right now that have been spamming
>Xbox is finished
for the last 2 weeks and quoting that interview with that grifter whore that hasn't been working on Xbox for 15 years?
Lmao fucking cuuuuuuucks suck it ahahahaha
>>714271237 (OP)This affects me how?
>>714282673Welcome to deindustrialization.
>>714282250If a company has layoffs generally sponsoring foreigner becomes very difficult for some time,
but MS is pretty much an arm of the US government just like Tencent is an arm of the CCP
>>714294549Less shit games being released
>>714271237 (OP)Micropenis became the EA of gaming, they bought too many studios and now they to shut it down.
>>714294686For some reason I really doubt that
>>7142947673 of them got cancelled already
>>714294681Sure is lucky that all the people who are supposed to oversee stuff like this just so happened to all resign earlier this year.
Talk about luck.
>>714294686fewer shit games being released
>>714287285Those "codes of conduct" only applies to low class goyim such as yourself, for meek to feel empowered, for spinless to feel in control.
Upper echelons of management are where your lost freedom lies, the world you wish you were entitled to and pretend to have. You will be kissing boot the second mr. Goldberg have an inkling of thought just to have a chance, and if you won't, there is a line of thousands behind you who will.
>>714282250>new narrative to make you feel sorry for libtoid tranniesFuck you. You made your bed. Now I hope you neovaginas kill yourselves.
>>714287285You're a cog in a machine and the majority of people have no morals whatsoever.
Pretending otherwise won't change that fact.
>>714288380get off my board nigger
>>714295325the show went to shit when he died
>>714271237 (OP)Music to my ears.
>>714296138That's tight, post more!
>>714276865>Serie S now costs more than a PS5, series X sparkly editon costs more than a PS5proWtf
>>714282250>work in non-joke tech industry (finance software)>be told it was soulless bullshit (it is) by trannoids who foolishly work for "dream companies" (willing to work extra-hard for little pay for the privilege of developing the next heckin epic Blizzard title)>relatively immune to market trends (most of our software looks like it came from 2001)>business booms regardless of market performance (good market? people want to invest and run to financial advisors who use our software. Bad market? people flee to same financial advisors to save their investments)>anyone domestic fears the jeetification enough to keep our workforce US-basedboring soulless work is actually kind of based
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>>714296858>You get accused of rape the very next day>Settled out of court
>>714296858>be this bitch>desperately debase yourself by recording dozens of thirst trap videos>only manage 1000 followers on tiktok>film yourself dripping sunscreen over your tits while lipsyncing to some pop music but only manage a couple hundred viewshonestly hilarious to me
>WRONG chud Indiana Jones didn't flop, MS is HAPPY with sales (undisclosed)
>WRONG chud Avowed didn't flop, MS is HAPPY with sales (undisclosed)
Oh no how could this happen, they were so happy with their undisclosed sale numbers
Finally, we're truly seeing the collapse of the AAA industry.
Not just because the games stopped selling, but because the companies can no longer justify spending money creating them, especially when China can pump out shit at breakneck speeds and break sales records on the backs of Asian markets alone.
>>714271847This board's alright sometimes.
We shall get Halo: Mecha Evolved.
>>714275348This anon nails it, this is a pretty big problem in any gaming space right now, dev, publishing, advertising, you name it.
These companies don't know how to address inefficiency and would rather create new positions and oversight as band-aids rather than get rid of the problematic employees in question or re-examine their workflows; the top guys then wonder why they're blowing through so much money as they retain all the bullshit.
>>714297557>Not just because the games stopped selling[citation needed] because these games always sell a few million copies. The problem is that a few million copies @ $70 doesn't offset 3,000 salaries for 6-8 years (before you even bring publisher and distributor cuts into the mix).
So this sounds like Microsoft was finally fed up with Xbox Game Studios just letting their developers do whatever the fuck they wanted with zero oversight. Canโt believe they let it get this bad.
Happy that it seems the Microsoft Flight Sim devs and the Age of Empires devs have dodged this though, they do quality work.
>>714276865>Serie S now costs more than a PS5, series X sparkly editon costs more than a PS5prois microsoft retarded or intentionally sabotaging xbox at this point
>>714297751Every AAA company nowadays is just bloat
>>714273170>no new Banjo>no new Conker>can't work on DK games>their biggest project ever now in the shitter>only have a game of pirates to call their ownDam.
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>>714297651more like gaylo
>>714296115>he diedThen show me his body
>>714276518I don't think they are long for this world.
>>714297862>Asobo and Relix weren't affected by the layoffsNeither of those dev teams are owned by Microsoft anon...
It seems the Blade game is cancelled too
>>714297751No he doesn't lmao. We just had Bungie exposed as stealing their entire art direction and you think they have some kind of intense quality control
>>714298252Thank God
Dinga Bakaba, the nigger/Arab mutt that now owns Arkane should be barred from making anything.
>>714298117Relic only does AoE4. Forgotten Empires does the Definitive Editions
>>714298093>shit day to be a [x] fan>about the get shitter :-(
>>714298252No. That's one journo's shit post. No conformation.
>>714298415The concept artist wasn't really known by most people.
He's talking about easter eggs, "edgy" stuff or anything that isn't corporate friendly.
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>>714296858>conventionally attractive woman>would
>>714298518Also not owned by Microsoft
Every halfway decent game they put out and actually makes a profit is usually niche and not managed by them.
The only exceptions are Sea of Thieves and Forza.
Go figure!
>>714278410damn I was looking forward to this as an mmo junkie
>>714287647Those types of videos are explicitly recruitment ads
>>714271927>Hope you guys are okay with doing manual labor.oh nonono, you know pajeets are also taking all those jobs. i work at a amazon warehouse and its 50% indians. in a mexican heavy spot
>>714298518>>714297862I checked earlier today, Worlds Edge is like 40 employees.
Forgotten Empires somehow contains 90 employees
The Age game remasters is like the only positive cred MS received in a while for games, but that apparently wouldn't stop MS considering Reddit Rush
>>714299331You don't get record profits by overspending on employees.
>>714271847I am laughing out loud at this post. Do you mind if I save this photograph?
>>714299591Bosses aren't employees.
>>714299732How many times are you gonna read about mass layoffs, followed by an increase in executive pay to find the pattern?
>>714299591I wonder if he was actually given more, of if that is just a factor of stock awards, price movements and option timing.
>>714271237 (OP)Xbox is gonna just become Bethesda only lmao
>>714299830How many times are you going to try moving the goalposts?
>>714299331reddit tier image
profit = revenue - cost
employees are cost
companies are obligate to turn a profit and ultimately they would shut down if they didn't in the long run making everyone jobless. Its really not hard to figure.
>but record profitsif you are a company that makes the exact same profits every year then you are dying thanks to inflation.
>>714299967it's usually the latter. When people talk about how much money some rich guy has its usually his net worth.
>>714299732The Board of Directors are the bosses you fuckwits, CEO simply manage the company (poorly) and get hefty bonuses for doing fuckall.
>>714299587The funniest part about Sinfest is that he's still a raging feminist, he just thinks that Jews created the patriarchy now
>>714271847Audibly chortled, thanks anon
https://x.com/ZeniMax_Online/status/1940464372041895947
ZOS President Matt Fior leaving later this month after 18 years, ESO under new leadership and dev will continue. Probably a good time to retire more than a layoff.
>>714299967They never not get more though.
>do good>get rewarded with a raise>do bad>get incentivized to do better with a raise
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>>714273683>need to process thisDude talks like a bitch.
Glad he got laid-off.
>>714300337Pretty much. BoD represents share holder interests and are legally obligated to do so (line must always go up), select a CEO to run the company in the shareholder interest and take the fall if it does not. Golden parachutes are negotiated as the CEO knows he can be fired just for the number not going up enough, let alone it going down. Publicly traded companies are pretty bad for business.
>>714300337>arguing semanticsthat's all you got?
>>714300362>it's never le poor developers fault
>>714300478grug think word hard
wait
grug no think
grug uhhhhh grug
what the fuck is happening in the gaming industry
>>714300240A corporation can be 100 million dollars in the red, and the CEO will still give himself a +20 million pay raise.
Layoffs are a result of the CEO not wanting to compromise any of his wages. When was the last time a CEO announced he's gonna reduce his salary, to help the company. It never happened in America.
>>714300650>Game sells poorly>Mass layoffs>Game does alright>Mass layoffs>Game does well>Mass layoffs>Game does incredibly well>Mass layoffsNo man, it's the developers for sure.
>>714297751They should just go with the memes.
>>714300502>I'm so emotionally ravaged I need to take time to myself to really consider things>but not before I take this picture, write this tweet, and post itThis behavior will never cease being funny to me.
>>714300661its being purged. We will be entering another golden age as small teams of devs will self-publish actual games without the bloated infrastructure and greed the publicly traded company era that is ending entailed.
>>714300478Each speech bubble is a sentence each, how fucking retarded are you?
>>714300687Reminds me of when Bungie was doing layoffs and the employees as the CEO 'would you and the other execs consider taking pay cuts if it meant we could keep more people?' and their reply was an awkward 'Uh, we're not that kind of company..'
Shameless.
>>714300478>Mocking conniving crony cunts makes you a commieDon't think so bud
>>714300621>Blatantly incorrect>SemanticsYou're a mentally ill retard
>>714300383It did actually drop in 2023, since the Microsoft share price fell all through 2022 and stock options are a big part of any high paid execs remuneration.
>>714300661Anons wanted a gaming crash; they got it.
>>714300795It's both actually, mostly due to poor hiring practises, so most of the fault is indeed on the top members.
Still modern devs are pure shit
>>714300661Contracting after years of bloat and overspending on failed products.
>>714300661no one bought the woke sloppa
>>714301105>Be developer>Make a game that sells incredibly well>Get laid off>It's actually my fault, as well as my employers.
>>714286236>layoffs at RavenWell fuck, they've been enslaved in the CoD mines for almost as long as they were making their own games but that still sucks
>>714300687>CEO will still give himself a +20 million pay raise.CEOS dont decide their compensation packages, BoD does. That does not mean the CEO cannot make demands and have allies, but its still not their decision.
Also, being the red does not have to be an influener on stock price, and that it the only thing that matters in a publicly traded company. Thats why publicly traded companies are bad business; the stock valuation can go up because the company is getting sold/bought out, and still be in the red and be completely destroyed in the buy out. CEOs (a mandated postion for a publicly traded company) can make bad business decisions that raise the stock price especially trading long term viability for quarterly stock gains, and that is what he is legally required to do.
>>714301036I'd say it's glorious but the purge isn't happening fast enough. FASTER, DAMN IT.
>>714301036>gaming crashI fucking wish.
>>714273683He should read the human animal
>>714301242That hasn't happened in years, most AAA games sell like shit.
>>714300478I like to think that you actually couldn't comprehend the words of the employee in the second and third panel, so you just assume it's a left-wing meme because of it.
>hurr pink shirt guy says big words. Left wing meme.
>>714300661it's correcting itself
>>714302046But weren't the people that got cut just contractors or something the Chinese main dev hired for one part of the game?
>>714301316>can make bad business decisions that raise the stock price especially trading long term viability for quarterly stock gains, and that is what he is legally required to do.There is no legal requirement to chase short term gains at the expense of all else. CEOs have massive leeway to argue for an action that is in the long term best interest, the fiduciary duty stuff pretty much only actually comes up in cases of deliberate sabotage or fraud.
People always bring up the Ford case, but his issue was he actively declared that he wasn't working in the best interests of the stockholders.
Faggots on here really thought they were going to acquire Sega or Capcom
>>714302148>contractors or something>the game director was laid off
>>714302046ironically that's an issue of the chinks throwing away overseas employees once they felt they had no use for them
>>714300661Short term gain, to please investor pockets.
>>714302148Yeah. Too many fags were trying to play up the importance for the guys laid off when they did only a handful of environments and were idea guys.
>>714302046They laid off the Amerimutt consultants lol
>>714302271Source?
Guangyun Chen is literally still releasing corporate statements.
>>714299467They do while overspending on the CEO LMAO.
>>714302171>There is no legal requirement to chase short term gains at the expense of all else.There is no legal requirement, no, but if you NOT doing that is construed as not executing your fiduciary duty, you can be sued for it. And that can include selling the company resulting in its destruction. If a PTC has a stock running at, say, $10/share, and is offered a buyout at $20/share to a competitor (and things like anti-trust are not an issue), then they have a fiduciary responsibilty to at the very least entertain it, and they only reason they would not accept it is if they could convience enough of the shareholders they could get even more money in the relatively short term by refusing it. Again, the return of shareholder value is the primary purpose of a PTC.
>>714302702It says so on the article image.
>>714302702>Source?Read the pic of the post you replied to initially.
>>714302846THEN SURELY IT MUST BE TRUE!
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/esports/news/game-director-unveils-marvel-rivals-season-2-content-and-future-updates/articleshow/119045768.cms
>>714302967>TimesofindiaHecking good morning saar.
>>714302962>Trusting an image>From fucking February at thatRetarded
>>714303071Then look it up yourself, retard.
How the fuck will you ask for a source, and then deny it when it's right in your face?
>>714302745Well it does work, so...
>>714300661the disastrous result of women and blacks getting positions instead of more talented white and asian guys is finally catching up
we have been getting almost nothing but woke AAA crap for the last 10 years.