But what actually his crime? What did he do to deserve eternal torment in the Blood War?

sodomy

>>714288809 (OP)
Cultural appropriation of dreadlocks.

>>714288809 (OP)
He was the one who started the blood war, wasn't he?

I wanna eat Annah's tiefling arsehole.

>>714289319
with whom?

>>714289538
you

Who knows as even he's forgotten the deed thought since he sincerely believes that whatever he did was horrible reality itself sees him as the worst sinner imaginable

Trick question, the crime isn't important, he just believed it to be so heinous that his belief manifested that destiny for him.

Original we don't know. Either it was literally that or AS BAD as starting the Blood War. IIRC someone said that the multiverse is literally dying because of him.
Another one was that by gaining immortality, every time he dies, some random other person has to die in his stead.

>>714289481
That is one theory, that he was somehow responsible for the beginning of the blood war, theres a few hints about his possible involvement, at least.

However, his original incarnation was "hated" by all gods, such that none of them would grant him reprieve, so he had to have done something pretty fucking baller and threatened their divinity or fucked with the wall somehow. Now hes invisible to them due to his immortality, which honestly was probably a benefit in a lot of ways if what he did was actually that severe lmao.

>>714291167
>Another one was that by gaining immortality, every time he dies, some random other person has to die in his stead.
That is how his immortality functions anyway. I also vaguely remember someone in game saying that its causing the fabric of the universe to come undone too.

>>714288809 (OP)
This game was so ridiculously peak. Going through it blind was awesome.

>>714291438
If his original incarnation was abandoned by all gods like that, he was probably an enormous fucking chad if even the evil ones want nothing to do with you.

Either way, theres a ton of theories, nothing concrete about what he actually did in his og forms. Theres a ton of interesting theories about the Lady as well.

it's actually explained if you get the true ending. pretty satisfying wrap up of the story with not loose ends or plot holes

>>714291167
he committed the sin before becoming immortal. that's the whole reason he sought out ravel.

Nearly everything wrong in the game is his fault. Did you even play PS:T? Yes, I know this is a general thread with poor bait as an OP.

>>714288809 (OP)
Considering that
>the gods hate him
and
>multiverse is dying
and
>everything is build on belief
The only logical conclusion, his original sin is....
he invented atheism.

He really should have kept a diary or something. Maybe a notebook.

>>714293347

They tell us right? Him not staying dead is gunking up the clockwork of the universe.

>>714293967
His respawning isn’t that big of a deal, it just forces someone else to die instead of him staying dead, which just creates a shadow in the negative energy plane. He’d need to die constantly to create a big threat to the multiverse.

I’m guessing from the intro cutscene that he essentially created a universe cancer that wiped out his native plane and is spreading somehow. It likely affects gods if even the murder gods despise him for it.

I only got about halfway through the game, but iirc his immortality is causing issues and the witch made him immortal, right? Why didn't she just make more people immortal?l, and really fuck up the system?

>>714288809 (OP)
He blessed six squirrels with too much power

>>714289507
I want to IRL

>>714288809 (OP)
We will never know.

>>714289365
Kek, high IQ post.

Eating a meal

>>714288809 (OP)
He changed the nature of a man.

>>714289507
I want to have tea with Fall-From-Grace and just talk pleasantly with her, maybe even play a little chess with her, if you catch my meaning

>>714297220
That art looks so terrible

my headcanon is that he somehow made the far realm connect to all realities

>>714293347

>>714288809 (OP)
Roicism against tieflings

>>714288809 (OP)
He told everyone you can just STOP believing in gods to kill them.
Just a little trolling.

>>714290458

Would you?

>>714288809 (OP)
>eternal torment in the Blood War?
What eternal torment? He wasnt even WORMED.

>>714288809 (OP)
told ravel she was uggo

>>714288809 (OP)
posting in a loli thread.

>>714288809 (OP)
>>714291438
>>714292167
Wait, so this game's story is just about a bunch of vague shit? I tried repeatedly to get through the slog but it bored me to sleep everytime. I'm not sure if it's worth reading sufferporn if there's not even gonna be explanation. This is the type of shit emo teenage girls write and think is "deep"

>>714288809 (OP)
He looks a lot like Stalone in this pic.

>>714301896
>everything must be stated to me in absolute terms or it's trying to be deep

>>714302037
>sufferporn with no explanation is good

>>714302287
>sufferporn
I don't think you know what that word means

>>714302287
his original crime literally doesn't matter
it can be anything you believe

>>714301896
how far did you get anon

>>714302493
>>714302520
Writing a bunch of tragedy for the sake of it is just edgy and corny. It means the author isn't creative or good enough to actually tell a story with substance.

>>714302287
Bet you think The Sopranos sucked because of how it ended

>>714301896
you'll never be white.

>>714302637
speaking with a lot of authority for someone who didn't finish the game

>>714302637
what are you talking about you lunatic

First time playing this game, How should I build my character? I'm not familiar with DnD.

>>714302637
>Writing a bunch of tragedy for the sake of it is just edgy and corny
>you're not allowed to write what I don't like because ???

>>714302637
why would you enter a thread about a game you clearly haven't played and try and talk with some authority on it

>>714302860
wisdom and intelligence are the most important stats. dex sucks.

>>714302860
game gives you a fuck ton of story exp for INT and WIS checks so make those high and think about going wizard (talk to the blue hag and do her quests, do the zerthimon circle), get a bit of CON so you're not paper and maybe a lil DEX. CHA is also useful for story shit.

>>714302860
You're a wizard, Harry

>>714302860
Unironically max INT and WIS with Cheat Engine and enjoy the game as a glorified VN.

>>714303016
>>714303062
>>714303082
>>714303123
nta but is strength just pointless or something?

>>714295624
The ritual is flawed.

>>714303186
Well if you're going to play as a fighter it isn't, but why would you? Being a wizard is the best

>>714303186
i can't think of any big obstacles you need STR for but it make u unga which is good for beating encounters, you just miss out on cool story shit if you don't get INT and WIS high

>>714295624
She loved him, not anyone else

>>714302897
>>714302897
Yes writing tragedy for the sake of being tragic is not good writing. Having no explanation doesn't mean it's a good story, it just means the writer has zero creativity or too much of a pussy to try because he doesn't want to disappoint the readers. Then again you play videogames for the story, so your standards are rock bottom.

>>714303186
Ignore anons, you can comforably play as a warrior.
STR will let you hit things and do damage
DEX is for ranged combat and armor class
CON is HP
INT is for wizards and some converastion checks
WIS is for clerics but you can't be one. it's the most important stat because of the EXP bonus it provides
CHA useless except for some conversation check

Game isn't hard and doesn't require any minmaxxing at all.

>>714304235
Forgot to say there is no ranged combat and being a thief sucks so you ca ignore DEX all the way.

>>714288809 (OP)
He made a deal with a devil and tried to do everything he could to get out of it.

>>714303186
stats are mostly for dialog options and strength lets you act like a big dick brute in a few places

>decide I want to start as a wizard
>invest heavily into WIS and INT
>constantly get beaten up by random hobos once I step out of the mausoleum

>>714304235
>DEX is for ranged combat
>there is no ranged combat
Huh?

>>714306064
you should be able to get annah and dak'kon and do some quests before getting into fights in the trash pile, iirc you can do the mage quest with no combat

>>714306064
you shouldn't be that weak. also use morte's litany of curses.

>>714301896
Brown hands typed this

>>714306085
There's only one party memeber that does ranged.

how are vhailor and ignus neutral

>>714306934
Vhailor being neutral makes perfect sense

>>714291438
supposedly he charted out the astral path through all the lower planes, allowing them all to finally reach each other with their armies and make total war

>>714293347

>>714292167
So what are some of the big theories?

What other games will scratch the same itch?

>>714307210
He started #stopkillinggames

>>714306064
>he has morte and still gets btfo
Doesn't morte literally start with taunt or do you need a couple of levels for it?

>>714307643

>>714307643
you'll never find a 1 to 1, but for as much as people may hate it here DE is closest

>>714307643
None, people say disco elysium which i enjoyed but for different reasons not really similar vibes at all. Still give it a try

>>714307643
Kotor 2

>>714307947
>DE is closest
Nope.

>>714307942
I liked having the planes be involved again but it really didn't match up to PT to me

>>714307643
if we're suggesting other shit Avellone worked on Pillars of Eternity has some good characters

>>714307643
Disco Elysium. Some people here will disagree but KNOW that they are wrong.

>>714308547
>Disco Elysium.
Nope

>>714308625
let me guess, combat autist?

>>714308874
Nope

>>714303186
Not really if you care for certain builds, but intelligence and wisdom(?) are required to unlock some extra dialogue options. Lets be real; this game has mid gameplay, and mostly focuses on its atmosphere and writing. So in order to fully enjoy it, you need every dialogue option available.
Icewind dale is better when it comes to character creation and builds. Its all about this.

>>714308927
so the game about the amnesiac suffering from past sins he had forgotten about is not even a smiiiiiidge like planescape torment
>Yep
thank you for your service

>>714309196
Who is sister quoting?

>>714308547
Cute and clever humor, self pity, and discussion of an economic model that was proven wrong 35 years ago... no thank you. Planescape succeeded because it didn't try to be more than a (great) fantasy novel.

I am a Planescape: Torment lore sage.
I have read the (mostly copy/pasted dialogue version of the) novelization.
Please ask me anything about Planescape: Torment.
I do not actually remember much in detail so ask away and another Incarnation of mine in the thread may answer your query.

>>714308547
That game does too much socioeconomic/political commentary. To the point of absurdity almost.

>>714309479
where do you go after dying in blood war?

>>714309479
Is there anywhere on Sigil you'd like to actually live?

>>714288809 (OP)
>tfw you realize mario sunshine is 23 years old

>>714288809 (OP)
the blood war exists because of him, anon.
play the game.

>>714309479
What's written in Fall-from-Grace's diary?

>>714288809 (OP)
creating an incantation that trades his soul for another random soul in the universe every time he dies, so his unclaimed soul can go back to his body and live again.

>>714288809 (OP)
Why does he look so... zesty?

>>714309693
The bix nood war

>>714309913
She cucked TNO in a past life and he doesn't remember

>>714309807
>the blood war exists because of him, anon.
Nope.

>>714309196
That's just superficial similarities though. Both games are very different.

>>714309196
>past sins
Harry did nothing wrong. That cunt Dora was the one to destroy him.

>>714312435
officer do you know how much that coupris is going to cost

what is this game? I searched the image and this came up. Why can't we have babes like this anymore?

>>714312909
https://archive.is/mW3BN

>>714301896
ONCE UPON A TIME THERE WAS A ZOMBIE GUY NAMED "GUY" AND HE HAD A BUDDY SKULL WHO WAS LIKE "YO DUDE, UPDATE YOUR JOURNAL, WE GOTTA LEARN ABOUT YO PAST MATE"

AND GUY WAS LIKE "YEAH OK" AND THEY WENT AND MET ALL KINDA OF FRIEND AND GOT INTO MANY ADVENTURES WHERE THE TRUE TREASURE WAS ALL THE FRIEND THEY MADE ALONG THE WAY

AND THEY LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER

THE END

>>714313040
Based

>>714302520
He went to Baldurs Gate and made everyone Bald.

>>714313026
why are they like this

>>714302637
>Tragedy isn't substance

Are you just trying to get a screencap for reddit?

>>714313040
You lied to me, Morte. This is a most grievous sin. Contemplate it in the Pillar of Skulls.

>>714313026
>OH MY GOD THEY LIKE WOMEN AND MAKE THEM HOT IN THEIR FANTASY GAME HOW COULD THIS BE HAPPENING TO ME???

>>714288809 (OP)
Practical One was one EVIL ass nigger.

>>714288809 (OP)
said the N word

>>714307643
Disco Elysium, without doubt.

>>714313026
Based, back when devs understood us

>>714314238
Nope

>>714312909
>>714313026
>EDIT: And in case people might be deterred from playing it because of the character designs:
>youll never really see those pictures, if I recall. It doesnt look nearly as bad from a pulled out isometric view.
fist reply:
>It was the 90s -- I think every female videogame character looked like that. Thankfully things have come a long way.
that's as far as im gonna go, what a fucking cesspit of a site jesus christ

>>714288809 (OP)
https://youtu.be/JgjqtIY_zww?si=qlROw0o5mp6m1bmw

Ignus wishes to burn.

>>714314579
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvD7FLQQbKQ

>>714313474
they are deflecting sex pests

>>714301896
>PS:T is "sufferporn"
uninstall the game and never touch it again you don't deserve it nor any other kino ever you disgusting wretch

>>714308454
Pillars is so close to being a great game that it's frustrating that it's only pretty good. That said, you can see all the harbingers for Obsidian's decline.

>>714315517
It has pretty okay gameplay but that ending is the writing equivalent of shitting out 3 litres or diarrhea out your shorts and then slipping on it and sliding down a hallway into a pile of garbage

>>714315678
I wouldn't characterize it THAT bad, but I'd agree that it falls very flat. Frankly, I think a lot of the problem is just that Thaos wasn't cool or charismatic enough. The ideas aren't bad, but the execution didn't pan out.
I guess that's true with a lot of the writing in the game.

>>714302860
How does the UI look so cluttered?

>>714309479
Fhjull support sir.

>>714309479
who's the drowning guy in the intro

>>714317420
God damn Deionarra's got a fat ass

>>714288809 (OP)
He made an unwanted sexual advancement towards a woman

>>714317195
It's just a lot of extraneous visual flair for what is essentially just a point allocation menu. You have to understand, this was back when UIs were often stylized in order to stand out, before UI designers turned into a hivemind rabidly obsessed with minimalism and ultra readability.

>>714317495
i dont remember who he was but you can read his story in the sensory stones if that helps
t. different anon

>>714304235
How long is the game

>>714304469
>and being a thief sucks
Thief is the most fun class in the game, and works just fine with high dialogue stats in the early game.

>>714319416
~60 hours if you're autistic, less if you're not.

>>714288809 (OP)
Looking like some freak that I don't want to play as.

>>714317886
Bad time to complain about modern UI considering at least they're a lot easier to read than that ugly shit from PS

>>714307643
Arcanum has good story/lore/dialogue and indeed has an ebin ending where you can reason with the big baddy if your talking stats are high enough to get the special good ending. It's janky though.

I lost my coomginity to she