This is according to a reliable leaker from Neogaf who leaked Microsoft multiplatform projects:
>Microsoft Gaming faces ongoing layoffs, with 3,000โ4,000 more expected at Xbox from a workforce of 20,000, following cuts since 2023.
>To offset losses, Microsoft is training management to use AI tools like CoPilot/ChatGPT for workflows, aiming to maintain project timelines and quality on reduced budgets. Xbox has rarely been profitable, relying heavily on Activision Blizzard King (ABK) earnings post-acquisition.
>Without ABK, Xbox might have become โMicrosoft Gaming,โ with only a few major studios like Blizzard, Call of Duty, and Minecraft surviving. Ongoing cuts aim to streamline Xbox into a leaner operation focused on mega-projects, supported by 10โ20 million loyal Game Pass users.
>Critics see a deliberate โslow death,โ with Halo Studios at risk due to budget cuts, an untested engine (Unreal), and multi-platform challenges, especially as Call of Duty overshadows Haloโs market presence
>>714330318Great, another thing associated with Halo that they'll get burned on the purchase again.
>>714330247 (OP)>Xbox Ai desging 1.0>design a male charater and give him a vagina .>make him brown too.
>>714330247 (OP)Post the thread archive it, homie
>>714330318Sony would be smart to stay far, far away from Halo forever.
>>714330247 (OP)>xbox buys the biggest amount of devs ever including game slike call of duty>always holds onto ips and destroys devs and games>promises they wont>buys ALL blizzard call of duty>kills devs and games in less than 2 yearscalled it. sony called it. fucking judge who let that deal through should be shot at
The shareholders are demanding blood after they were promised Gamepass would take over the world and was worth spending tens of billions on new studios for. It didn't work and now they're pissed
>>714330318they bought bungie and look how that turned out
>>714330247 (OP)>fags spout exclusive games are bad>Xbox brand tries to capitalize on it>shortly after collapses in complete shameLove to see when retards following more retarded paradigms fail.
>supported by 10โ20 million loyal Game Pass users>loyalThey're in for a rude awakening when they see there's no loyal users for GP but half of those use the cheatcode lol
>>714330247 (OP)Haha, if they couldn't manage with real teams (which were outsourced but still...) they can't do shit with "AI" either.
They are all clueless and incompetent.
>>714330247 (OP)>It's so fucking over>only now>not after they stopped making exclusivenewfag
So all the posters that for years said gamepass was profitable and the future of the industry are going to apologize, right?
>>714330318why? Halo ip isn't worth shit
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>>714330572this is why I wanted microsoft to buy activision. to kill activision
america is collapsing so fast its crazy
>>714330763no one ever said game pass was profitable, retard. it was more like "fuck you, I got mine"
I played hundreds of games for free
All they had to do was make COD exclusive to the console
>>714330572Same but I'm sure we ain't yet for the reverse king Midas killing Activision-Blizzard entirely
>>714330247 (OP)Oh no nobody could've seen this coming
>>714330572>fucking judge who let that deal through should be shot atnow, he should be praised for speeding the death of ABK, its produced pure shit for almost a decade.
>>714330897Steam had 37 million concurrent users today
>>714330926They were too dumb with the whole trial, IIRC it was even Xbox's idea keeping it multiplat. They're retards thinking multiplats sell systems.
>>714330706I sub full price and have been since the start it offers tons
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what's all the canceled games?
all i know is perfect dark
>I have been told in clear terms that, outside of a few quarters in the 2nd half of the 360's lifecycle, the only time Xbox has operated at something resembling profitability was after ABK's earnings were integrated into their reporting.
WOW
They've been operating for over 25 years and what? Only a few of them were profitable???
I hope China or Korea buy Halo and turn it into a coomer gacha. A fate worse than death.
>>714330247 (OP)Gamepass is a nuclear bomb Microsoft detonated under Xbox and Microsoft refuses to clean up the damage.
>>714330247 (OP)>2024>microsoft announces they will start to downgrade their gaming department in the coming year>2025>people start freaking out when microsoft starts downgrading their gaming departmentGod you people are fucking retarded.
>Blizzard gets bought out only to get raped by Microsoft
>>714331114Trueachievements states it's like 9k, actually
https://www.trueachievements.com/news/microsoft-layoffs-xbox-july-2025
>>714330247 (OP)>Buys tons of studios for billions of dollars>Zero exclusives worth a damn>Put ALL your exclusives behind a paywall that costs peanuts>"Why is xbox failing?"Good riddance, fuck xbox, almost everything wrong with the industry started here
>>714331276>ynr GP was a mean to clean up damage done by XboneThey only know about covering a hole in their sinking ship to create another hole. They can't get out; it's doomed since 2013.
>>714330247 (OP)All of this for Starfield and the weird niggers within
>>714331257Sure thing boss. I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
>>714330247 (OP)All this, due to them wanting to shill a stupid camera nobody wanted or asked for, and then having their next console be about TEEVEE.
>>714330247 (OP)"We're not in the business of out-consoling Sony or out-consoling Nintendo," Spencer said. "There isn't really a great solution or win for us."
"And I know that will upset a ton of people, but the truth of the matter is, when you're third place in the console marketplace and the top two players are as strong as they are and have in certain cases a very discrete focus on doing deals and other things that kind of make being Xbox hard for us as a team โ that's on us, not on anybody elseโฆ"
"I see it out there, I see commentary that if you just build great games, everything would turn around," he said. "It's just not true that if we go off and build great games, all of a sudden you're going to see console share shift in some dramatic way. We lost the worst generation to lose in the Xbox One generation, where everybody built their digital library of games.
"This idea that if we just focused more on great games on our console, that somehow we're going to win the console race, I think doesn't relate to the reality of most people. I see a lot of pundits out there that kind of want to go back to the time when we all had cartridges and discs, and every new generation was a clean slate and you could switch the whole console share. That's just not the world that we are in today. There is no world where Starfield is an 11 out of 10 and people are selling their PS5s. That's not going to happen. "
-Phil Spencer (head of Microsoft gaming Xbox studios), 2023. KindaFunnyGames Podcast.
>>7143313539k is company wide.
All to be filled with more jeets
>>714331276They can't even clean it up. They've salted the earth by conditioning their consumers to feel stupid if they buy video games.
If feels like some kind of cosmic joke that the executives making these retarded decisions are among the highest paid people in our society.
>This is according to a reliable leaker from Neogaf
Xbox Nation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvMvGfxaLOg Not doing well.
>>714330318>Sad dad Master Chief >30 FPS (with drops)>10 minutes of combat every 3 hoursNow this is gaming
>>714330247 (OP)>Microsoft GamingDoes that mean we can finally get good games again? I wouldn't mind a sequel to Urban Assault or Fury3.
How do you have so much money and talent and still fuck up so hard
>[The Verge] The Xbox user research team has been hit hard by todayโs layoffs, with โnearly halfโ the team affected. The head of Xbox family and child safety has also been laid off
>News of Microsoftโs major layoffs today keep rolling in, as the company informs around 9,000 employees of the cuts. Iโve heard from sources that the Xbox user research team has been hit hard, with nearly half the team affected. Itโs a key team that focuses on ensuring quality across Xbox games, the platform, and developer tools. Even the head of Xbox family and child safety has also been laid off.
jesus christ. crashing the xbox brand, permanently.
>>714331918Forgot about
>Third person is now the default (first person is an unlockable post game)>Minutes long walking sections is the majority of gameplay
>>714331591>We lost the worst generation to lose in the Xbox One generationThey won the best one to win, where people built their friends list, earned achievements and made digital purchases on with the 360. The XBone being the first digital console is retarded revisionist history and I'm tired of hearing it. Moving your multiplayer group to a seperate ecosystem is a much bigger ask than losing some backward compatibility with old game purchases.
>>714331982HUBRIS is expensive.
>>714331982Game Pass. Unironically being too generous and not jewing the fuck out of gamers led to this.
>>714330247 (OP)That's what liberal activism gets them. Shouldn't have taken the kike money.
>>714330247 (OP)>You'll actually live to see AI generated games made by indiansI want to get off the ride
>>714332072Have you seen the new Fable reboot and Perfect Dark reboot (cancelled)? The women are so ugly.
>>714331924I still miss the 90s era of Microsoft gaming. It still surprises me how good MS games were before Xbox ruined it all.
>>714330778>Halo ip isn't worth shitThey could buy it for cheap then
>>714332143Turns out that companies aren't a charity and being aggressively pro-consumer is stupid.
What exactly was Philโs goal when he bought a shitload of studios?
Tbh I only care about State of Decay 3. if they cancel that one too, imma find Phil und shit in his street
>>714332143Trying to apply a netflix like strategy to gaming is pants on head retarded anyway
>>714330572That judge should be let into the video game hall of fame for letting Microsoft kill themselves
>>714332216And most of the 'AI' is actually other Indians... It's Indians all the way down
Why do they just refuse to make games?
>>714332235Fucking Hover, a free windows 95 pack in, is better than any of the garbage they put out these days
>>714332426a caste system existed for a reason in their world, it was to keep the poop out
Hopefully 343 get the axe.
If any studio deserves to be closed down its definitely them
>>714332426>AIActually Indians
>Perfect Dark reboot dead, HiFiRush in Hell, Fable reboot delayed and probably cancelled
>90% of Xbox hardware team already fired
>9000 FUCKING MICROSOFT EMPLOYEES FIRED IN ONE DAY
After today's news I can't possibly imagine why anyone would buy an Xbox console or support them in any way.
>>714330247 (OP)What do they have left that they haven't completely screwed up? Forza Horizon?
Chances of 343 shutting down and Halo being sold off?
>>714332521All of them are poop, their existence is based around poop, for fuck's sake their flag is a literal anus
>>714330897Yeah, it's almost like being a traitor to your people has consequences, who knew? The truth is that the u.s. globalists sacrificed their warrior class(vanilla white men) and told them to eat shit and started focusing entirely on the women and the browns and the fags and the kikes. And now that puttin' and xi are rattling their sabers and are starting shit all over, the u.s. is totally screwed because the u.s. is primarily a naval trade power like old britain was and get a lot of their money from protecting naval routes and other stuff. But will the average stupid european once again answer the call and go through another major league war in order to secure the u.s. future the next hundred years? I somehow doubt it..
>>714332470There was a time...
>>714332574They even fucked up MS Flight Simulator 2024.
Forza Horizon 5 is their only genuinely solid game.
>>714332574They literally ported Forza to Playstation. And Gears of War too on Playstation. They're probably going to Nintendo Switch 2 as well. Those aren't console exclusives anymore little bro. I mean if you rationalize Microsoft is a third party publisher and not a console platform, the context of your question changes.
>>714331149Brown people don't count. Fuck em and fuck their smartphones.
I'm suddenly seeing the same people who actively campaigned over and over against the 360 dudebro era now hold it up as a lone success. This is why you don't listen to these freaks. You stick with us and we stick with you, that's how we built this fucking industry into the juggernaut that attracted all these female leeches and political andys in the first place.
>>714331024And yet, i almost never buy any games from there. Funny, ain't it?
>>714332749You sound so gay bro i'm sorry
>>7143327497th Gen was pure kino. I don't care what the PS2 boomers have to say about it. Ps1 grannies are okay though. They're cool.
>>714332587>Nintendo already has Metroid>Sony already has their hands full with Bungie>not a successful service game so no third parties would want itthere arent any buyers
>>714331591Lol all those word blabbers and he still just can't tell the truth. The truth is that all their games are soke fucking garbage where they sacrificed the white man for the whores and the nigger browns snd the faggots.
WHEN I SAY DON MATTRICK YOU SAY I'M SORRY.
DON MATTRICK
>>714332749>the 360 dudebro eraIt ended 120 years ago. No one from that age is still alive.
>>714331591>"We're not in the business of out-consoling Sony or out-consoling Nintendo," Spencer said. "There isn't really a great solution or win for us."The mindset of a loser. Fucker should've never stated that; deserves execution in the public square imo
>>714331924>Does that mean we can finally get good games again?Since when you're under the impression Xbox understands how to make good games?!
>>714332143It's jew enough; they lock players out of DLC for games. GP "owners" only play vanilla versions on the average
>>714332470>hoverBased and underrated.
>>714330597Wait until you see how fake all of those gamepass numbers are. I am 100% certain that they are lying about the number of users and the costs associated with it. That shit doesn't make sense, especially with how many publishers refuse to do it. It has never been profitable and their internal metrics show it will never be profitable
>>714332953being dudebro is very anti-trans and anti-woke which we are all fatigued of
>>714332941No. He fucked up big time.
>>714331918>What your AI did before she met you is none of your business...
>>714330476Is Gla-chan's pussy hot or cold?
>>714330247 (OP)Good.
Making games is way too expensive because There are too many devs involved, firing those useless people might make games less sloppy since they don't need to appeal to everyone anymore.
SELL MORE XBOX CONSOLES THAN PLAYSTATION OR NINTENDO SWITCH? FUCK NO.
MAKE GREAT GAMES? FUCK OFF, NEVER.
CRASHING THE XBOX CONSOLE BRAND. WITH. NO. SURVIVORS.
Indies will always eventually win, because they're made by actual autists that like good games. Meanwhile "the industry" is just some dickheads that don't like games slaving for corporations.
>>714330247 (OP)Are they going to kill Blizzard and their games?
>>714332824female leech, political andy or both?
never forget the 360 was never successful
it had a 36% PLUS failure rate in the first year and less than 2 year warranty for years and years plus came out a year before ps3
xbox stopped reporting sales numbers when the ps3 over took it in sales that same generation
also a majority of sales were in usa. where playstation outsold the 360 but also never had any serious competition in europe or japan or any other rmarket from the 360
>>714333196God, I hope so.
>>714333196Xbox has literally been closing Blizzard customer support since the Activision buyout. Look it up, that dept is probably all AI automated customer support for Overwatch/WoW/etc.
>>714333024If Nintendo could recover from the Wii U then the current state of Xbox is all on Spencer
>>714333215Male lich, my name's Anderson btw
>>714333332>the current state of Xbox is all on SpencerThe start of the downfall was because of Mattrick, not Spencer. Phil inherited a nosediving brand before making things worse
>>714333332Playstation 3 recovered itself. The Wii U was truly fucked but only the Switch saved Nintendo. Xbox One fucked itself. Xbox Series isn't even in store shelves anymore, lol. Most retailers do not carry Xbox consoles for months. Costco US doesn't have Xbox and Walmart Canada doesn't carry it anymore.
>>714333172Phil Spencer is my hero.
I don't know why anyone is surprised. Reports were coming out at the beginning of the year that they weren't even manufacturing the console anymore. They literally don't make Xboxs anymore. You just still see them at stores because no one buys them at all
You literally cannot buy Xbox Series in parts of America https://www.costco.com/xbox.html and the Xbox consoles all got jacked up to 600-700 everywhere in the world. You can't buy Xbox in major European countries either holy shit hahahahaha this brand.
>>714330247 (OP)>Gamepass>Windows 11 (millions of good computers will turn into e-waste)>AI (all indians)No idea what Microsoft is thinking. Every single decision they are making lately is very stupid.
>>714333248yes it was
yeah the PS3 won the generation eventually but 360 was dominating early
>>714333473The switch didn't save Nintendo. Their handheld business was doing great. The switch just continued their successful handheld business and they exited consoles.
>>714332573>HiFiRush in HellHi-Fi Rush is owned by Krafton along with Tango Gameworks.
microsoft windows is a platform for open software. the xbox should be an open hardware platform for games. not a closed proprietary game production ecosystem. open the xbox for open and free game dev and let the parents deal with controlling content that their children plays.
Genuinely why does Microsoft even bother at all? Xbox brings fuck all to the table compared to their server and cloud services. Even Windows licensing brings in more money than all of Xbox.
Just shut that shit down and keep Cod and King under Microsoft Publishing, they're probably the only things making money anyway.
They're somehow fucking up the Halo CE Remake. It'll literally be AI-generated.
>>714333981It's a trillion dollar company that has the federal government and Vanguard/Blackrock as their top customers. MS doesn't care about the quality of Windows or the Xbox division. MS Office makes more in one quarter than the entirety of the Xbox brand has since its inception. MS only cares about selling your information to the glowies
>>714334196Man the competency crisis we'll face soon will be something alright
>>714333332That's the gag. MS doesn't want to recover. They're just want to drop out of the console race and focus on gamepass. They've already killed psychical first party games.
>>714334064UMM ACTUALLY THE WII WON. YOU DUMBASS SNOY.
>>714334064>the PS3 won the generation eventually but 360 was dominating earlyWii won, anon.
>>714334107The IP is dead little bro, microsoft owns it. Just like all of RARE's IPs like Kameo and that squirrel bad fur day Konker dude is a dead IP next to Perfect Jeanne Dark.
>>714330247 (OP)>This is according to a reliable leaker from Neogaf
>>714334196Reminds me how Cuckerberg got obsessed with augmented reality for awhile and burned ten billion on it. I think a lot of companies are throwing money at AI because it's a trend and they're looking for a problem to solve or product afterwards
>>714334368Krafton owns Hi-Fi Rush, little bro.
>>714330247 (OP)It really is amazing that Microsoft managed to out retard fucking Sony this generation
>>714332587>>714330318Seriously how did they fuck up Halo after 3, ODST, and Reach?
>>714332312>>714332143No one says they have to swindle the money out of your pockets to be successful, but the streaming model for gaming just doesn't work for technical and financial reasons .
>>714333271Is this why you can get a 2 week long comms ban for saying gg on overwatch?
>>714330247 (OP)>First they came for the karens and I said nothing because I wasn't a KarenHeres hoping they fire the jeets too, but lets not get our hopes too high
>>714334196Honestly, as shit as that would be, 343 is probably one of the most incompetent studios of all time. It shouldn't take this much time to make Halo games.
>>714334343Microsoft's current strategy is continue earning revenue from MTX and GamePass subscriptions (the highest tier) from their dwindling Xbox console users. Microsoft does not give a shit about the third worlders of /v/ who buy GamePass for 10 turd world currency or email trial tricksters, if they can continue the big fish renewals of 100+ dollars they will do it if the audience exists past 20 million.
It's obviously not a substainble model for a console platform. For perspective Nintendo Switch has over 150 million units, PS5 has 80 million units and PS4 has 114 million units. Sony and Nintendo cannot afford to lose their customers to the 20-30 million customers Xbox Series has sold. If I were to take a stab in the dark it's probably 20 million console users on GamePass out of 34 million subbers (which is a nebulous statement since they include $1 trials and email stackers), the rest come and go from mobile and PC.
Anyway it's basically the model Netflix took when their audience lowered, just raise the price on those who remain. Standard practice of a failing business.
>>714334748Lol, lmao. The ceo is literally a pajeet, also daddy trump is bringing thousands of sla-, i mean, skilled workers from india
I think it's just human nature to not give a shit about games you download on gamepass. When I buy a game on Steam I have paid for it and thus feel obligated to play it, whereas on gamepass I know the game isn't really mine to begin with so sometimes I never even get around to launching the damn thing before I delete it.
I did the 3-years of gold conversion to gamepass and when it runs out in September I'm not renewing it. I hate Microsoft.
>>714330247 (OP)Sorry chuds but the future of Xbox is bright
>>714334196MASTER CHIEF SAAR
SAVE CORTANA FROM COVENANT SAAR
>>714334860Not to mention because you know that it will vanish the second you stop paying the bills: There's no reason to care about it at all because it'll be gone soon.
This is the end flaw of owning nothing: you can never be happy with something that isn't yours. But the chosen people of Galilee can't conceptualize that concept and think it will be different *this time*
>>714334364>Wii won,Wii ran out of gas in year three. That's why we got mario galaxy 2.
>>714334813>Sony and Nintendo cannot afford to lose their customers to the 20-30 million customers Xbox Series has soldNintendo can; their service is so cheap their income from it is minimal. As long as they keep it cheap they likely won't lose audience there ofc
>>714334843Technically true but Sony isn't really resting on their laurels. Sony's biggest threat is maintaining a step ahead of PC gaming right now with a price advantage over building a PC. The Switch 2 having enough specs to handle new ports could eat away at them too. Nintendo and Sony are positioned quite differently than Xbox, since their bread and butter is maintaining their console business. Xbox has no future in the console industry and it's painfully obvious to people who lived through the last days of SEGA.
If I were a cheeky Sony exec I would drop the price of the PS5 temporarily again for a month just to entice the little Xbox customers remaining on the Xbox side of the fence. Nintendo doesn't really need to do this since the Xbox audience typically wouldn't care about Nintendo IPs. Valve joining in by price dropping the Steam Deck this week would be fucking funny for sure.
>>714330247 (OP)>Ongoing cuts aim to streamline Xbox into a leaner operation focused on mega-projects, supported by 10โ20 million loyal Game Pass users.Those are xbox owners, thats will migrate to ps6 next gen
>>714335002>Wii ran out of gas in year three.Sold 100 million units versus PS3's 90 millions. Wii won and that's only in sold units.
>>714334729Pretty much. In OW you get flagged for a mute or suspension if you get X number of reports across Y games. A real person might look into it if you attempt to contest it with a support ticket but otherwise it's all automated and has been for about 18 months now.
>>714334818How will durgasoft compete all their skilled engineers are going to google and microsoft
>>714330247 (OP)so who's going to be the next major console platform???
I hope it's either apple, or atari
>>714334196This is the MP-only game, dev brought up live-service, I think they're canning it. This would mean Halo will become a campaign-only series starring Master Chief like I predicted it would.
>>714330247 (OP)It's been over since 2010. You just didn't know it at the time.
>>714335232Nobody will join; modern companies are all about being retarded and making poor calls, entering a market requires being assertive.
>>714334860Time is more important than anything else if you're an adult. I could never see myself on Game Pass because I'm an adult and a boomer who has a list of backlog going back to SNES. I didn't play Chrono Trigger until the late 2000s. Game Pass is an obligated hostage situation for my time, don't care if it was offered for free.
>>714330247 (OP)>especially as Call of Duty overshadows Haloโs market presenceAnd Call of Duty itself is falling to wayside. What a fucking abysmal decline. Glad I switched to PC last year. Shame, but I still remember my time on Xbox fondly... but it's over, that's undeniable.
>>714330318Making half the game qtes wont save halo
Dead brand. Kinect was the first nail in the coffin.
>>714335401idk apple buttfucks me every time I use their devices.
>>714331037I heard one of the things they had to agree to to buy actiblizz was not making cod xbox exclusive
>>714335401cool so it's just going to be red vs blue now?? damn
>>714335232Amazon backed out of game developing so never gonna be them. Apple is the most realistic because they understand exclusivity sells, but they would have to invest big time on new game studios. Apple did invest in a dumb VR headset so stranger things can happen.
>>714335434>you live in a reality when Don Mattrick has one game, and good game under his belt over Phil SpencerTHE
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>>714330318wasting money lol.
Honestly, replacing xbox management with AI would probably be better, couldn't be much worse at least.
>>714335673Always was. The green team was merely the third wheel
>>714335232i was gonna say facebook, but they burned 3 billion with nothing to show for it
quest is dying a slow painful death
>>714335673No, it's going to be Sony/Nintendo/PC(Steam). PC are largely unaffordable to the primary userbase of console owners. I know I'm inviting raging baldies Steamie Weenies, but the reality is the average Joe would prefer to spend 400 dollars on a console and play. While even the Steam Deck is not a "set it and forget it" type of device. The Steam Deck is still less popular than the Wii U and PS Vita in sales for perspective. Broadly speaking the fight will be for whoever can get your attention with so many games out there.
The last big fight for the next platform crown wasn't in console gaming, it was the VR headset rush. Facebook is still shilling it despite the VR game development market being dead. A lot of people would like to pretend VR gaming wasn't a huge phase because a lot of people on /v/ infested on retarded Alien facesuckers headsets and have shit to show for it besides avatar chatroom WEBMs.
>>714335232Nobody, it's a dying business model
>>714331990>The head of Xbox family and child safetythat sounds like a "bullshit job" if i've ever heard one
>>714335720mattrick did nothing wrong and spencer is just doing all the shit he originally wanted now anyway
>>714335940PC is not videogames nor something you could encapsulate as brand related to videogames; it's chaotic and "free" by nature. It's Nintendo and Sega... because Sony sure as fuck ain't going to be around much longer after Xbox's actual demise
>>714335434According to Max, Microsoft actually tried getting a sequel to Killer Instinct '13 off the ground but it fell apart because Iron Galaxy weren't interested and they couldn't find another studio willing to take it on. They even approached Bandai Namco of all companies about it and couldn't come to an agreement.
>>714335948>dying business model>selling over 330 million units between the 3 platforms>2 of which are sluggish as fuck in selling paceNigga, you blind
>>714336057Xbox, Xbox, Tv, Call of Duty, tv, Xbox, kinect, Call of duty
>>714336084Why didn't they just give the series back to Rare instead of having them make whatever the fuck Everwild is
>>714336075>https://www.pcguide.com/news/borderlands-4-system-requirements-cut-out-50-of-steam-users-with-an-8-core-cpu-need/The price of a 4K gaming GPU is 500 dollars for 16GB VRAM. 50% of Steam hardware user survey has PCs that can't even launch Borderlands 4. The average Steam user doesn't have a PC that's got close to the VRAM on Series X or PS5. The average gaming PC is well over 1000 dollars prebuilts for something like the RTX 5060 8GB. 8GB VRAM. PC gaming is not something you can sell to the average Joe and Steam Machines failed big time.
You just have selective memory because you're a PC fanboy.
>>714335401The hardware game is fucking brutal, you have to sell consoles at razor thin margins and compete with users that have decades of sunk cost thrown into their console/PC ecosystem. I doubt anyone will try. Even Google couldn't muscle their way in with that Stadia piece of shit.
Valve might do a console style device but it won't be serious competition, just a nice little entry level device to get you in the door to PC gaming.
If Apple gets into the market it'll be a 1,000$ or more device that does whatever weird shit Apple is interested in at that moment.
From a business perspective the whole market is a headache, just sell your shit on every platform and let Sony/Nintendo/Nvidia/AMD handle the hardware side.
>>714336162Yes, selling a dollar for 90 cents makes you a lot of sales
The big question going forward will be how does the industry change when gaming that isn't mobile slop cracks India? China pretty much already dominate the market so having an even bigger population entering the market could throw it all up in the air
>>714336241>goes beligerant over nothingRead, nigger. Read.
>You just have selective memory because you're a PC fanboy.sensible chuckle.
>>714335142Yeah, but the casual user base left along with 3rd party support. That's why I brought up Galaxy 2. If they hadn't released it then the core nintendo audience would have left as well. The handheld division is what kept them going in the later years of the Wii and the Wii U.
>>714330318Sony's even worse off with their game division.
>>714330247 (OP)How many H1Bs do you think they're hiring over at the Xbox division?
>>714336232To be fair I really doubt anyone at Rare today would know anything about making a fighting game.
>>714336467literally billions
>>714336367If the population is poor, it won't change much.
>>714336307It's only brutal for companies that only pay attention of hardware. None of those could/will work because they can't output the software for it themselves, and even if they manage to they'll need to compete against the ones making software for the machines if they are multiplat. Good luck finding people that will buy a "google" related videogame over the studios that make games and are associated to
>>714334604Reach was dogshit lmfao
>>714336467They're not going to be hiring, they're going to be outsourcing. Starfield was a trial run. These devs are going to be reduced to unreal modders and all the modelling will be outsourced to the third world.
>>714335940It's going to be Nintendo/Valve, Sony will die too. High-end gaming doesn't have a place in the future of gaming.
>>714336467I remember all the shills saying that AI would be great because white AAA devs would make gaming great again, i wonder what they have to say about this
blizz is gonna escape ms and mindbreak /v/
>>714335434Phil Spencer said no to a second Sunset Overdrive? alright that's a reason i dislike him. Aside from also cancelling Phantom Dust and Scalebound.
>>714330318I'd rather Halo suffer a slow death with Halo Studios and Microsoft, than go back into the hands of modern Bungie.
>>714336412>Yeah, but the casual user base left along with 3rd party supportIrrelevant. It sold the most and made the most profit of its competition. Wii won
>>714336591plumbers will inherit the earth
>>714336591cope
ps5 is outselling cuckbox 5:1
>>714334331but it's already there in video games
it's why all big studio video games are mediocre right now and the only good shit coming out is from smaller teams
>>714336605nobody ever said that
>>714336580This, they also no longer need Halo's MP anymore now that they have COD, Halo will become a SP-only series starring Master Chief, no spin-offs, ever.
>>714336681Roach incubators always sell better in the third world
>>714336696I've read it on xbox centric sites. I wish I were joking
>>714336307The internet ruined society. if we didn't have internet, then this mobile slop market wouldn't exist and we'd actually have cool as fuck hardware from major companies right now.
>>714336605AI will be great for indies. AAA is already a zombie and I will enjoy the shitshow.
>>714335940>The last big fight for the next platform crown wasn't in console gaming, it was the VR headset rushI'm not gonna lie, those early days were absolutely insane. But really, it was the perfect storm, it was the crazy 2016 trump era, you know? We were all filled with hope and renewed vigour. But then 2020 happened and those fucking liberals just had to fucking destroy the world because god forbid the european man is ever allowed to fucking rise again, however briefly...
Game pass is failing because it is anti-meritocratic.
>>714336681I don't care about Xbox, it's dead but it's retarded to claim that Sony is fine when their movie games cost too much and their live-service games keep flopping and getting canned. The Reaper is coming.
>>714336780Why? AI will save AAA
>>714336612Wouldn't shock me but it's news to me. Surprised that it hasn't appeared on the PS5 now actually because the fact the rights are a bit fucky (Insomniac owned the IP which obviously Sony inherited after the buyout but Microsoft own the publishing rights) isn't an issue now given Microsoft have gone the way of Sega
>>714336232Rare is dead anon. They took too damn long with Everwild and it ended up getting canned. SOT is their bread and butter and is profitable enough that MS hasn't axed it and them.
>Phil spencer is retiring from Xbox next gen
Gaming as a whole celebrates. HOWEVER
>>714331149How did this happen?
>>714336832No. AAA is dead. Hollywood is dead. The entire entertainment industry is hollowed out. Movies will never be good again, music is all underground, games are laughably bad. AI is one last squeeze on retards before the big bubble pop
>>714330247 (OP)They were even worse than in the leak. Nearly 9000 heads have rolled today, and more are on the line.
>>714336832AI is good at doing commodity tasks cheaply. AI will not save AAA's lack of direction or vision.
>>714332674They fucked up flight sim 2020 before that. Unoptimized poopslop with bad physics. Wtf are they doing??
>>714337048Sounds like something a luddite would say, it will save gaming tranny
>>714336984Indies and mids will take over.
>>714330727It was over when Mattrick murdered the Xbox brand in 2013. It never recovered afterwads.
>>714332574Tendies have their own Forza now
>>714330572The FTC made a very shitty case.
>>714336832You can't ask an AI to make a good game. It'll just shit out the most generic shit imaginable.. Good games have SOVL.
>>714334860Not only do you have access only as long as you're paying, you also only have access as long as Microsoft is paying. I played through Lies of P on release on gamepass, now that the DLC is out it's no longer available there. Hitman also got removed at some point, if I played it through there I'll either have to grind all the location masteries for hours again after rebuying on steam or pay for the full version on the gamepass app
Gamepass is only good for one and done games and even then when an expansion gets released you'll have to buy that. I'm not sure if you can buy just the DLC and use gamepass base game or if you have to pay for both, at which point you realize you should've just bought the game instead
>>714331320Blizzard is still printing money, thougheverbeitperchancemayhap.
>>714336957Microtransactions in mobile games. It's not just a massive audience that dwarves people who play actual games but also whales. It's not even necessarily just Asian virgins with waifu .pngs either, look at DSP. He's thirty grand in the hole from some wrestling mobile game he's addicted to.
>>714337048@grok come up with three BANGER AAA game ideas to prove that AAA will be saved by AI.
>>714336984Can't wait to see the hobos smear their shit all over Hollywood.
Oh wait, they already do! Along with the traitors, the troons and the kebab cocksuckers!
>>714330247 (OP)Please god let Halo Studios get shut down.
>>714336957Lower barriers of entry to video game experiences via F2P software with unlimited monetization potential that was easily accessible thanks to the widespread global adoption of the smartphone.
>xbox dead and 6ft under
>sony dying
>nintendo going down the same path
>console gaming is dying in general
>nvidia went full retard on the AI bubble, their gpus are mostly datacenter slop instead of consumer goods
>AMD already has CPU dominance
>AMD recently also earned GPU dominance with the latest gen
>Steam has absolute control of the PC gaming market, everyone uses steam
All we need is AMD to fall for some scam like AI and steam to go public, and the gaming industry will crash and burn
>>714337370>>nvidia went full retard on the AI bubble, their gpus are mostly datacenter slop instead of consumer goods>>AMD recently also earned GPU dominance with the latest genIs this the latest cope?
A reliable pedo at neogaf?
>>714337370>nintendo going down the same path2 more weeks, trust the plan
So
>every single AAA will be AI, every single one
>multiverse
>season pass
>DLC day one
>patch day ZERO
>no no-no words (well is been like over 10 for that one
>no mods
>random bans because fuck you
what else will microdick do
>>714337528'tendo hate is at an all time high, the entire internet hates them right now
>>714336957The concept of only paying for a game once turned out to be a Gen X and Millennial thing. Boomers paid with quarters, Gens Z and Alpha pay with mom's credit card.
>>714330247 (OP)>To offset losses, Microsoft is training management to use AI tools like CoPilot/ChatGPT for workflowsYeah that'll fix it. AI flowcharts for useless middle managers.
>>714337574yeah because they're popular
>>714336575it was better than what came afterwards
>>714337574It cooled off once Switch 2 sold record breaking, only edgy kids haven't moved on
>>714337631Correct. Nintendo fans are now the iPhone fans of the video game world.
>>714330247 (OP)Do people not realize Microsoft has always lead the gaming industry by a few years? The Xbox one was shit on for many of its quirks at/before release that ended up becoming standard industry faire later on.
The triple A/first party games industry is headed for a major collapse and Xbox was the canary in the coal-mine. Modern gaming is just unsustainable as it currently stands. astronomically high budgets, bloated as all hell middle management positions filled by blue-haired retards who were hired because of college degree based nepotism, prioritization of social activism by said mid levels, reliance on unskilled third world coders from street-shitting nations to do the majority of grunt work when it comes to game development as intelligent white men who are good at coding were either pushed out of 1st party game development or stayed out of game development all together
>>714337694>iPhone>popularAndroid is bigger
>>714331149>>714336957It's insane just how predatory and bullshit the phone game market is.
>give illusion of game aesthetic>timegate everything>insert dozens of currencies/upgradables>hand them out like candy initially>all that shit dries up>prompt user to buy entry level one off upgrade purchase that seems reasonable $5 or so>if user pays once offer increasingly expensive packages with some purchases being $100 or more>near infinite purchases because youre now competing with some other whale retard on the leaderboardTheyre all like that, it's incredibly sad and maddening. There's no reason phone games have to be as shitty as they are.
>>714337694well fuck maybe everyone else shouldn't've been so retarded then?
>>714337732>Do people not realize Microsoft has always lead the gaming industry by a few years?It's not having a lead when you're a contributing factor in the rotting, anon
>rely on AI to make management decisions
>just keeps telling you to hire more indians
>>714337630Managers arent useless, but if they need AI to tell them how to do their job then they are really useless. My suspicion though is that top management is the root of the problem since they suggest this AI shit
>>714337739That's an OS, not hardware.
>>714337232I have literally zero sympathy for those people, to be honest. Imagine spending thousands of dollars on a mobile game or some random fucking onlythot whore.. absolutely heinous.
>>714330318I what could Sony do worse?
>>714337742>There's no reason phone games have to be as shitty as they are.They make money.
>>714336957It's a slot machine on your phone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqk9V0fBl7w
They have no one to tad wrangler their teams or even push for proper development, whole staff is at mercy of suits demanding most stupid and inane shit.
Zero leadership on both Xbox and Windows.
There are people who complain about Twitter and steamdb threads but not this genuine waste of ssd space.
>>714330572So Actiblizz is going to die because of Microsoft's retardation? Holy fucking based. Why don't we have them buy EA and Ubisoft to completely eradicate cancer from this blighted industry?
>>714337660That sure is one stoic, regal-looking, monkey
>>714337574yeah mostly hated on by faggy non-american or japanese populations
Also the hate is mostly from really salty xbox and playstation niggers since they can't accept Nintendo having a spin and not act like the third world.
>>714330247 (OP)Phew good thing I stopped caring/playing Xbox after the 360. I've been content with my switch. Good luck Xbox lads
>>714330572That judge deserves of raise for killing Xbox, PlayStation, high-end PC gaming, and AAA gaming. Nintendo and Valve won by doing nothing.
>>714332941lol he killed the brand
>>714337232>He's thirty grand in the hole from some wrestling mobile game he's addicted to.Is he taking out loans? That's insane.
>>714334196its fucked either way, 343 is behind it, oh wait, they are called Halo Studios now
funny, these guys want to replace developers with AIs, how about replacing CEOs with AIs? why is that never under consideration?
People have been turning on him a bit in the last ~18 months, but my question is how did Phil Spencer get away being incompetent as well as a soulless corporate ghoul for so long in the eyes of video game fans at large? Even if you excuse the first few years following Mattrick, yeah fine, but he's been in charge for over a decade and done absolutely nothing good.
Is dressing casual and saying GAMER a lot at trade shows and press conferences all it takes?
>>714330247 (OP)Imagine the amount of hate that Phil Spencer would be getting if he was a woman or Indian
>>714335434Sunset Overdrive is underrated
If they don't make a console, the Xbox brand will be seen as a loser brand. Game Pass will die. They have to buy Steam first and merge it with Game Pass.
Even if they get Steam, China will eventually make at least one console for its growing massive middle class. China might make four of them. Trying to make a comeback with the loser label will be impossible unless there are heavy tariffs. They haven't come back in the phone business.
>>714338879The console will be a chip, wouldn't even be surprised if the in-house box gets canned tomorrow.
>>71433723230 grand? That was like 3 years ago. He's close to 100k at this point.
>>714336591An entry level PC costs $1,200 for 8GB VRAM prebuilt, RTX 5060. Go outside /r/Steam fanboy.
Can I have tits in my video games now?
>>714339163Who says I'm advocating for that, the future is Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2, you're fucked if you're looking for alternatives to that, developers not making smaller games are fucked too.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:apsk7dfeuy3ehuua7wh5dpfr/post/3lsyr3idkts2f?ref_src=embed
Holy mother fucker, it's a full on gutting.
>>714338270Exactly. Let AAA die
>>714330763Did anyone say it was profitable? I played the new Doom game for literally a dollar and unsubbed before the 2 week trial ended. What kind of profitable service lets me do that.
Blizzard got hit too. Warcraft Rumble is DEAD.
>>714331257It's completely believable when you recall that MS' big overarching plan was for the Xbox to become the main multimedia system in people's homes; the things they play games on, watch TV/Netflix through, watch movies on (hence the HD-DVD format war at the 360 era), and so on. The XboxOne was so called because MS' galaxybrained marketing execs thought it would be 'input 1' on everyone's TVs. (in other words, the first and primary device you had connected.) The normalfag living room market is what they wanted, and they were willing to try a loss leader strategy to buy their way into the market.
Thank you based Matrick for your woeful decisions that killed their hardware dreams.
>make shit non-stop
>why did we fail
>>714331320Blizzard deserved to be dismantled though, before the acquisition and even still now.
>>714332664Back when Microsoft actually published good games. Long time ago now.
>>714339603Renew your Rent Pass.
>bought CoD
>killed all other devs
Thank you...
Y'all excited for Halo Infinite 2?
>potential BK game was cancelled
why live, give it to nintendo
Microsoft is about gut every studio and shove it all into one big team called Microsoft Gaming. There will be no more studios.
The absolute state of the Xbox brand.
>>714334448Unlike the meme that was AR, I can understand the c-suite feeling urgency around AI. It's like being a factory owner just when the industrial revolution started and seeing other places starting to install steam engines and such and you not wanting to be left behind.
Even though a lot of these places can't figure out how to use the AI tech properly, being tooled for it and familiar with it will help them.
Or they'd be the guy still riding a horse while everyone else is in a car.
>>714339486Yeah, but you can only do that once with your account, though. It's not like you can do this whenever you feel like it with the same account and credit card, right?
>>714334196>At least 5 employees were laid offWow FIVE whole employees?! You're all falling for some low level underperformers crashing out on social media.
>>714336591>High-end gaming doesn't have a place in the future of gaming.stop i can only get so erect
>>714334863What level of hypercopium causes a 'man' like this to post a 'the future is looking bright, bros!' video when the company cuts thousands of jobs, kills projects, and has to publicly come and say 'we're not firing Phil. stop saying we are'? It's Baghdad Bob levels of propagandizing.
Todd Howard is he safe???
>>714339532Was it ever even alive?
>>714340112He's going to just retire and fuck off.
>>71434011213 million players is looking pretty good compared to other games released.
Imagine being someone employed at one of Nintendo's western studios like Retro Studios or Next Level Games and looking at the current western studio apocalypse.
>>714332941Xbox 360 was great because he didn't have a hardon for multimedia and game licenses.
>>714339163If you had just bought a 4090 anon, you wouldnโt be worrying about shit and would be able to enjoy playing games at max or near max settings for years to come. Technological advancement in computing and video game development has slowed to a snails pace compared to what it once was.
>>714340112Bethesda died after Fallout 4 and /v/ won't admit it
>>714334084*wii u falied
so they put their success with the DS lineup into the switch as a hybrid console
>i still miss the dual screen setup for some games
>>714330318I don't see how they can make it any gayer
so his game for Xbox was canceled too?
>>714339624You think Sony isnโt close behind? Ever wonder why they suddenly started putting all their games on PC anon? Need I remind you leaked insomniac documents showed many of their first party games arenโt becoming profitable until literally years after they release?
>>714333332Wii U had 30 year old IPs to fall back on. Unless Nintendo turns all its franchises into Pokemon, or Halo, they could fail with the Switch 3 or whatever and still be okay.
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After doing the gold to gamepass conversion a few years ago; still not enough interest to continue to use it.
>>714331149Since pretty much all console games that aren't Nintendo come to PC, console gaming and PC gaming might as well be the same thing. Everyone has talked for years about how mobile gaming is going to take over but this ratio has basically not moved in 7+ years
>>714330247 (OP)I just want Xbox backwards compatibility games on windows 10/11.
>>714330247 (OP)So this is a nothing burger? Sounds to me like they're getting rid of the catty do-nothing women with $120k salaries that just send emails all day in adult daycare.
>>714330572Best news I've heard all year. I hope they buy 2K so they can kill Madden and FIFA off too.
>>714337961The hardware is irrelevant people invested in apple does it for its os and android is far mor popular due its reach in perspective
>>714340518Development costs obviously but also don't forget that China is a huge factor, maybe even the primary one, in these companies' thinking. Hell, the Arrowhead CEO outright said last week that having aceess to the Chinese market is the "Holy Grail" for game developers.
Jim Ryan's Sony (and Shawn Layden has since echoed the same sentiment so it would've happened under him eventually albeit probably not as aggressively) were saying to investors that it was worth risking the ire of #ThePlayStationNation loyalist dummies because porting to PC would give them access to China, Russia and India - huge countries where consoles have very little market penetration.
>>714338879>the Xbox brand will be seen as a loser brand>willIt has been since xbone
>>714339424THIS IS THE WAY
>>714331623>Blaming the executives and not the Board of DirectorsPublicly traded companies were a mistake.
>>714340904A leaker claimed they would have one for the 25th anniversary next year. He then claimed that Xenia team was helping Microsoft. After both denied it, he doubled down on it.
So probably not.
>>714333149Hot, compared to the rest of the body
Cold, compared to yours
>>714334368>He doesn't know that HFR is owned by the guys who own PUBGPfft
>>714337574>'tendo hate is at an all time highIt's not, that was the PS2 days.
I still remember people getting pissed for having to buy a Gamecube or a Wii to play Twilight Princess instead of playing on PS2.
>>714341070can indians even afford anything beyond decade old smartphones?
>>714334084The 3DS sold like half what the DS sold. Sure, it still sold tens of millions, but the Switch sold more than the 3DS, Wii U, Gamecube, and N64 combined.
I hope they fucking go down. The 360 generation killed videogames by opening the floodgates with the paid online shit and COD yearly slop.
>>714341454Yes, they can also afford toasters which they use to scam elderly firstworlders.
>>714340112>Todd HowardWhatever this fucking hack has to say I'll ignore until he starts to talk about TES 6.
>>714330247 (OP)>focused on mega-projects, supported by 10โ20 million loyal Game Pass usersfucken lmao
suicidal business
The people shouting consoles are dead are the same people who said Facebook games were the future and VR is the future and Steam Machines were the future. 2 more weeks until Steam Deck outsells Ouya, N-Gage, Google Stadia.
>>714335434>Rise of the Tomb Raider>Forza Slop
>>714330706Their problem isn't the fact that they sell games on PC. Their problem is that they do not make any good games and as such nobody buys them.
>>714340472>Kojima productions>game
>>714334196The AI hype wave is going to crush the economy in a few years when it fails to materialize anything of value. AI slop games are going to tank. This is the final narrative
>>714341726Yes but people are much more retarded than they were 10 years ago
>>714341818>lolifaggot>opinion in the garbage can
>>714334064The ps3 got btfo so bad by the 360 in America which is literally all that matters. No one gives a fuck if the ps3 beat it in the end because more Brazilians and Yugoslavians bought PS3s towards the end of the console generation
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>Fire 9k people and replace them with Indians
>"Btw don't forget the $80 + tip"
>>714341787They need to be good and exclusive, which is impossible for Xbox. They don't have any use for just a good game if that game is played on another system that isn't the Xbox console, but they gave up on it despite not wanting to pull the plug for some reason.
>>714342050The greatest crime any human ever committed was giving internet access to India.
>>714341425The absolute tendie delusion.
In many parts of the world people didn't even know what the gamecube was, that's how much they failed back then.
And internationally, tendies kept crying about every larger PS2 exclusive like GTA, God Of War, DMC etc.
Even Xbox shat on Nintendo back then with absolute kinography like Ninja Gaiden Black and Halo 1 and 2.
>>714331024and less and less of them are american or from the western world
it's pretty grim, enjoy your mentally gook overlords and banned porn
>>714341865This
AI is only really valuable at small scale, for filling skill deficiencies and manpower shortages.
It can't really make anything of the kind of value something like a video game does. If they were allergic to downsizing to 50 man teams making games, this is even worse than that.
Also normies fukkin hate AI, so you can't really market to them, which means you're dealing with a minimized market
>>714342223I wouldn't use the word hate, but they definetly got bored of it
UPDATE
>King lost 20% of staff
>Zenimax lost 200 workers
>Turn10 lost 50% of staff
>Call Of Zoomer studios, Raven and Sledgehammer, have been hit and also lost staff.
>High Moon Studios lost staff
>The Initiative has been closed
>Perfect Dark has been cancelled
>Everwild has been cancelled
>Project Blackbird (Zenimax MMORPG) has been cancelled
>Zenimax CEO has resigned
> Banjo-Kazooie and Sea of Thieves director Gregg Mayles has resigned
>Blizzard's QA staff has been sent to work from home to avoid suicides within the facility, they will be replaced by outsourcing.
>Halo Studios (formerly 343i) is being hit by layoffs.
>Unknown number of workers are being replaced by AI including Quality Analysts, Artists and Designers.
>Halo Studios' new project is in a critical state and despite having been fixed, the product is still unplayable and in terrible quality.
>Microsoft is directing all its assets to outsourcing in Europe and Asia to accelerate the production of the next Halo game.
>Kojima Productions has reportedly cancelled OD's publishing deal with Xbox.
>Rumor has it that they are looking for another publisher since the IP belongs to Kojima.
I havenโt played an Xbox since the 360 but I wish I could have an opinion
>>714343083Saarce on what? This has been officially released since morning. It is on every gaming site.
>>714342464AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BASED!
so.....can they sell rare back? they can keep sea of thieves and killer instinct
>>714332913I'd buy it for a dollar which is more money than the millions they'd lose developing the next one.
>>714342050> please US government saar, we need more tax breaks and incentives to make america number 1 in using AI (Actually indians)
>>714343705It's funny because Meta just hired literally all foreigners for their Super AI team. and they're all Chinese.
Indians can only do the fake AI where it's 700 saars in a room pretending it's AI, like Amazon got busted doing with their checkoutless stores.
>>714343334Didn't nintendo sell Rare because they fell off hard after Banjo?
>>714331764The only good game on that entire list is bloodborne
>>714331618read the OP, faggot
>>714331149This ratio is pure bullshit because everyone has a phone, yet very few have a dedicated PC or are willing to buy a Console.
The first "gayming company" to release a "gayming phone" is gonna win the market and destroy everyone else.
>>714342101>and exclusiveNo, they don't. There's hardly any profit in selling console hardware, it's hardly worth the effort. The money comes from software (and "services") instead. Selling software is what makes money. If they produced good games that sold rather than producing ugly garbage that nobody wants then they would have no problem.
>They don't have any use for just a good game if that game is played on another systemThe use is that they literally get paid money for the game. Making money is the very purpose of a for-profit company. This is why they're selling on multiple platforms. This is why Sony is doing it too.
>>714334196>the Halo CE RemakeDidn't they already remake it? This is some Last of Us Remastered HD: PS5 Edition shit
Microsoft is a massive failure as a company and if it wasn't for boomer contracts it would've gone bellyup by the end of the last decade.
I'm not a salesperson but I'm starting to think that training your shrinking consumers to not buy your games and/or hardware was probably not a good business strategy
>>714330572>microsoft with their reverse midas touch killing everything they buyThat's exactly why I wanted this deal to go through. Basically, if you hate any video game company, hope for Microsoft to buy them.
>>714332986I'm sure that a big percentage of those people were just abusing the 1 dollar deal.
>>714345330Microsoft would have already killed Bungie and shitcanned Marathon by now over giving it an indefinite delay. God, I wish Microsoft had brought back Bungie now.
>>714345482Based Sony burning their own money.
>>714343334>>714344061Nintendo never owned Rare, Rare themselves entered an exclusive publishing agreement with them. It was then in 2002 that Microsoft shoved $375 million in their face to buy them outright. This was around the time Rare was making DK racing, which got canned, while their own original titles (PDZ, Kameo, Ghoulies, Conker: Live & Reloaded and Nuts and Bolts) got shifted to Xbox systems. They could still make games for the GBA.
>>714334196God, just upscale the Halo CE anniversary game, port it to Xbox, Switch 2, and PS5, and call it a day. How fucking hard is that?
>>714330247 (OP)How about keep the employees, have them work in smaller teams making AA games, release those games on Xbox first and then on other platforms later? Also, get rid of the DEI crap, all that woke crap has to go. Nobody likes being given a lecture being told that they are evil for not using a troon's pronouns.
If Microsoft replaces those employees with the foreigner Hindu Indians from South Asia, then there is always Nintendo and Sony who will keep churning out games and hardware that people will buy.
>>714332143>Unironically being too generous and not jewing the fuck out of gamers led to this.They were only being generous because they were in last place.
If Gamepass blew the fuck up and got 100 million subscribers and put Xbox back in first, the prices would've gone through the roof. Phil directly said this on the stand at the activision acquisition hearings. They were just doing the
>massively undervalue your product to undercut the competition and get a monopoly, then jack up the price when you're the only game in townBut they blew up before they could get to the second part.
>>714345795I think Nintendo owned like 49% of Rare.
>>714340054Nta but
You can just make a new account, and use the trial period for that new account
I used to do this when I was a broke teen
Also, when I used this method, using the same credit card didn't matter. It still worked
I was able to play games for free for years due to this method
>>714332380>What exactly was Philโs goal when he bought a shitload of studios?They wanted to deny sony exclusives and get as many fancy exclusives on gamepass as possible to get numbers up.
Their problem is they chickened out and didn't commit to this strategy and went full third party, essentially making their purchases meaningless.
>>714345865Ah, forgot that, here's the source.
https://web.archive.org/web/20080805204611/http://uk.retro.ign.com/articles/894/894511p3.html
Still wild to me that they didn't just buy them.
>>714330318They should just do what games workshop does and license the IP out to anyone that wants to make a game. Imagine all the cool shit that could be made that M$ would never fucking greenlight.
>>714331924GIVE ME CRIMSON SKIES REEEEEEEEEEE
I see this as a win for Microsoft and gaming in general if these layoffs targeting DEI that has plagued Microsoft's gaming division.
If not, it's still a win.
>>714345858Why the fuck would phil ever admit this? Why not just lie like everyone else?
>>714344912>No, they don't. There's hardly any profit in selling console hardware, it's hardly worth the effortYes, they do. The downfall of Xbox began with losing worth in their console line and consoles live and die throught software. what's the value for the brand and game makers (assuming it's ms studios) selling the game and having them played on other platforms? None, you barely sold the game when you need to sell xboxes.
>The use is that they literally get paid money for the game. Literal peanuts compared to selling them the game + console + keeping their consumers invested. But for that they need to provide reasons for it which xbox has denied to do so for years seeing you witness its ultimate failure
why does this industry take itself so seriously lmao. its just toys for kids. make a new halo or some shit like that
>>714330318They bought the halo developer and those faggots managed to get worse.
>>714332059Xbox 360 didn't even have a digital store for anything but indie games until pretty late, 8th gen is when people actually started building up lasting digital libraries.
>>714342464What do you call this event? "The Redeeming"?
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>>714346379If you read the stuff that came out of the activision hearing or his leaked e-mails, Phil has fully drunk the kool-aid and comes off as crazy.
>>714345858>If Gamepass blew the fuck up and got 100 million subscribers and put Xbox back in first, the prices would've gone through the roof.>implying they even need to do thatThey're raising the price already and it's a failure lol
>>714346668>dude vidya is for kids lmao>pocket change hobby
>>714346805Yeah his whole nice guy image is clearly manufactured and those emails pretty much killed any last trace of people buying it. He and Matt Booty in particular came off as arrogant fuckwits even by video game executive standards.
>>714346668If you don't take a multibillion dollar industry seriously then you're a retard.
imagine working for a western AAA studio in current year
>>714346668>why does this industry take itself so seriously lmao. its just toys for kidswestern journo and sony gaslight.
>>714346952That's my point, anon. They're pulling the rug before anyone's sitting on it. They jumped too early and are jacking up prices while nobody's using their product so it's killing them.
>>714346805It's funny, a month after that email, Microsoft bought Bethesda, because Sony tried to make Starfield a Playstation exclusive.
>>714347295It's not pulling the rug, it's jumping onto the endgame. But sadly for them, it's undercooked and there's no "loyal" customer base yet.
>>714347179That's hilarious seeing some calls of the people in charge tbqh
>>714347339>because Sony tried to make Starfield a Playstation exclusiveThey also tried to make Redfall a Playstation exclusive.
>>714347213>we need to flood to a non-western country in order to gain employmentHow is your comment any different to those shitskins flooding into the western world?
>>714347420Even had that actually been finished when it came out, it would've still at its core just been a generic Farcry clone with a Halloween skin. How anyone had faith in it, I'm not sure.
>>714346443>The downfall of Xbox began with losing worth in their console lineYes, it began with them making shit hardware with Kinect crap and TV features nobody wanted and trying to make it always-online. Had LITERALLY nothing to do with exclusives. MS shot themselves in the foot with retarded Xbone hardware and platform decisions and then never recovered.
>Literal peanuts compared to selling them the game + console + keeping their consumers investedNo lmao, they barely make anything from the console if not actually selling it at a loss (in the early years usually). The money is in software, which is why everyone except Nintendo (who makes exceptionally cheap hardware - get it?) is now multiplat.
>>714347339>>7143474205D Chess. Honestly though that's just funny.
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Microsoft was scared of Sony making Bethesda games exclusive to Playstation, just like this one. lol
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>>714347885Dumb and Dumber, I can't tell which is which when it comes to Sony and Microsoft, lol.
>>714330247 (OP)Are these cuts even the fault of xbox? Aren't they companywide? Did xbox wven report revenue growth that exceeded expectations like only a couple months ago?
>>714348179>Did xbox wven report revenue growth that exceeded expectations like only a couple months ago?Yes, in the letter Phil sent around firing everyone he specifically said they're having a great year and it's all thanks to the hard work of the employees who got them there (that are now fired).
there is not a single singleplayer franchise that people care about for either Xbox or PlayStation to the point where exclusives are the deciding factor in their purchases
the singleplayer exclusives are suplementary to gamers on either platform, we've moved on from the days of my exclusives > your exclusives because all the games are similar, just think of the time of Protoype and Infamous and how different the environment is today
>>714347885>>714347989Fear was an appropriate reaction at the time. The games turned out to be shit but still the fact that these games especially Bethesda's baby which is Starfield was supposed to be PS exclusive made MS shit their pants.
>>714348306>we've moved on from the days of my exclusives > your exclusivesNo. You might've moved on but the world hasn't. Exclusives are still a primary factor for people.
capitalism
shareholders
did this to gaming
>>714348740God bless them.
>>714330318And do what exactly? Just buy it purely out of spite? Even Sony isnโt that petty
>>714348740Gamers did this to gaming. If the gaming population didn't explode then you wouldn't have suits trying to infiltrate your games. So yes I'm blaming gamers for the whole fiasco.
>>714339424Can't happen soon enough.
>>714348740I don't think shareholders wanted this.
They want money most of the time.
Really poor leadership, terrible financial decisions, and a fundamental misunderstanding of vidja have caused this.
>>714330318I though that Halo would be a multiplatform game going forward? No need to buy them then.
>>714330247 (OP)welp time to wrap it up, video games are dead. What hobbies you guys getting next? Personally, porn has been really cool honestly. It's very interactive, I love masterbaiting, and it's really fun honestly. Never looking back to gaming.
>>714330858>xbox bought bethesda, activision, blizard, etc to kill themmaybe I missjudged them and xbox was the good guy all along
>>714330247 (OP)xbox just makes no sense to me, they have the most popular os on pc, why not start developing for that instead, with xbox they are pretty much competing against themselves
when xbots were spamming this picture swearing phil was saving the industry, I told you what would happen
you didn't listen, you called us snoys for calling out your bullshit, and now you're facing the consequences
I told you so
>>714349220Not good enough. EA still exists.
Not one, not two, but three times, THREE TIMES they canceled every last one of their games after hyping this shit up. GOD DAMMIT! MICROSOFT! WHY ARE THEY SO FUCKING INCOMPETENT! AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>714340282I really hope that after MP4B that retro can kick it into overdrive and make more games please.
>>714348740thanks to capitalism video games exist
blaming capitalism whenever something bad happens is obvious lack of understanding on how the world works
>>714330247 (OP)>To offset losses, Microsoft is training management to use AI tools like CoPilot/ChatGPT for workflows,
>phil spent more time focusing on Ozempic than Xbox
>literally kills the brand
>>714331764>TFA>Snoy Fest
>>714330247 (OP)>Microsoft is training management to use AI tools like CoPilot/ChatGPT for workflowsImagine the prompts
>design me the next Halo that makes $10B
>>714330247 (OP)>>Without ABK, Xbox might have become โMicrosoft Gaming,โ with only a few major studios like Blizzard, Call of Duty, and Minecraft surviving. Ongoing cuts aim to streamline Xbox into a leaner operation focused on mega-projects, supported by 10โ20 million loyal Game Pass users.>Let's kill studios>Let's also try to make GoyPass (which hasn't been profitiable BTW) a profit venture!X-box is dead. Even ChatGPT could hallucinate that as a slop answer.
>>714330318There's no reason for Sony to buy it. It's a dead I.P. that MS flogs because it was a top dog until Call of Duty 4 ate it alive.
Nobody cares about Halo post-2007.
>>714349417Because not everyone plays on PC. The issue is: X-box fucked up with the Series X and "why on Earth would I live there?" "We have a console for folks with shit internet: It's called the last generation console!" fiascos.
Nobody SANE is WILLINGLY going to buy your console/brand when you tell them to outright go fuck themselves and just give you the money.
>>714330247 (OP)who gives a shit?
t. xbro
>>714337206That's another thing, I bought Lies of P on Steam after almost beating it on gamepass because I wanted the DLC and it makes no sense to buy DLC for a game you're renting. Almost the same exact thing you said.
>>714330706>cheatcodeThe what?
>>714348740It's no longer capitalism, that was OG Xbox and early 360, this is global communism, how many times must this be stated, commie?
>>714330572They probably bought a new house with their greased palms.
>>714342464>all to be replaced with jeetsSURELY NOTHING CAN GO WRONG
>>714352005Dam, no malice at all, just pure business. I can't be mad at that.
>>714342464>Rumor has it that they are looking for another publisher since the IP belongs to Kojima.Based if true.
MIGA
MAKE ISRAEL/INDIA GREAT AGAIN
>>714342464>Blizzard's QA staff has been sent to work from home to avoid suicides within the facility, they will be replaced by outsourcing.@grok is this true?
>>714346051>Still wild to me that they didn't just buy them.What Microsoft was offering was an utterly unfounded amount of money for the games industry at that time. Shortly after the sale of Rare for $375m. Nintendo bought Retro Studios for $1m.
>>714353745Why exactly are Americans paying so much out of their tax pockets for the indian H1B Trump/Musk visas specifically? It's like Americans blindly followed their programming
>>714354812>why does the country of 330 million have so many idiots???????????????????????
>>714353745good morning Sir
>>714349625>thanks to capitalism video games existtrue only in that video games are a direct product of military industrial technology
on the other hand, Tetris
>>714330247 (OP)Just to drive the point home that Sony is so far ahead of Microsoft in terms of overall marketshare that trying to compare them both is just laughable:
While Xbox is bleeding people, studios, and games, Playstation is making moves on a juicy new market.
>but China is a PC-centric regionThat's why Sony also self-publishes their games on Steam. Thank you for the big bucks, Mao!
>>714354865>a few idiotsThe administration literally took on 5 trillion more debt - more than any other - just to import more Indians. This goes way beyond "just a few idiots". Americans as we speak are taking money out of their pockets and paying to import their replacements as programmed by the Trump/Musk H1B. Why Indians? Why not any other foreign population? Indians are so bad. Americans need to have an explanation for this?
>>714355493>ChinaThe chinks can have Sony
>>714356781That's exactly what's happening right now.
>>714336785People's spending habits aren't meritocratic either so I doubt that has much to do with it.
>>714337657>a pile of poo is better than a giant pile of poo!Ok. Doesn't mean you lump it in with 3/ODST.
>>714356947>AAA slop becomes chinkshit and PlayStation exclusive>everything else will be playable on Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2 and won't be chinckshit made by chinks or gooksFine by me
>>714340472It's funny how Microsoft can never seem to make it work with Kojima. People don't tend to mention this anymore, but Mattrick spent a lot of time and money attempting to pry him and Konami away from Sony in the early 2010s, and ultimately all they got was a handful of 360 ports that didn't even sell particularly well. Then OD, a scrapped Google Stadia project, is supposedly on the chopping block.
>>714354686>What Microsoft was offering was an utterly unfounded amount of money for the games industry at that time. Shortly after the sale of Rare for $375mThey probably believed they were buying Donkey Kong for 375mil. lol
>>714340359>buy a house fireno thinks
>>714330318konami should buy it and only ever use it to make pachinko games
>>714335434Don Mattrick really was the hero when we all thought he was the villain, wasn't he?
>>714337265>@grok has been let go due to sexual harrassment and have been replaced by a more inclusive LGBTQIA+ "Knowledge Buddy"(not a chatbot) @<insert typical Tranny name>
>>714338221>nintendofags having a gall to call anyone else a fag
>>714336575>and here we have contrarian zoomer in his natural habitat
>>714357035>people's spending habits aren't meritocraticSo you are implying that people prefer worse games? kys brainlet
>>714330247 (OP)We just need a proper desktop Steam OS, then JeetSoft, not just the Xbox division, can die.
>>714330572Yes I'm well aware that Arcanum is now stuck in the Microsoft IP vault never to see the light of day again.
Microsoft should buy Sony, Nintendo, EA and Ubisoft and then shut down their whole gaming division.
>>714330247 (OP)>official endorsement of management using AI toolslol, LMAO
anyway Microsoft and EEE, what else is new
>>714330247 (OP)imagine being Peter Moore watching your fucking intern crashing the ship you build
>>714330247 (OP)>To offset losses, Microsoft is training management to use AI tools like CoPilot/ChatGPTBWAHAHAHA I can't wait to see how spectacularly MS crashes and burns.
Total AAA gaming death
>>714340472I don't think so. KJP owns the IP so rumour has it he's looking for a new publisher.
>>714330897Its because they can't brainwash Z and A so they are dumping America and they probably going to China
All these years and xbox has been nothing but a money pit.
>>714331764Literally all of those Snoy games are shitty boring movie simulators.
>>714333376Demi-lich or lich
>Microjeet pushing xbox to use AI
Pure pottery.
>>714364479>pajeets making AI slop to fill goypassabsolute pottery
>>714331990Oh no, not the user research team.
>>714330247 (OP)>Microsoft is training management to use AI tools like CoPilot/ChatGPT for workflows, aiming to maintain project timelines and quality on reduced budgets. The rot has well and truly taken hold
>>714336467Liberals cucks finally figuring out that 3rd world immigration was NEVER about compassion or empathy
>>714330247 (OP)I hope xbox is reduced to a puddle and bought by sony someday, Faggots ruined consoles forever with that paid membership bullshit
>>714352005>Rare's recent track record>Delayed Kameo>Delayed Donkey Kong Racing>Delayed Starfox>Delayed Conker (shouldn't have released that soon before gamecube)It was bad then, and holy shit, it's way worse now. Nintendo knew the shitshow they were, turned 360ยฐ, and ran away
>>714336957there's a lot of retards with no self-respect
>>714330247 (OP)>leaner operation focused on mega-projects>mega-projectsAHAHAHA MBAs are retarded.
Wasn't "The Initiative" some sort of high prestige "creme de la creme" studio they set up specifically to make the greatest game of all time or whatever? 7 years of work*** and all they could show of was a heavily edited, bullshot movie trailer that didn't even look particularly good or fun?
Subscription models can't work for way too expensive shit. It's why none of these streaming services are doing well.
>>714332986Keep in mind, they CHANGED "xbox live" to "game pass"
Game pass was originally a seprate thing
>>714370078It always goes that way.
>company makes tons of money>we must funnel it into the big bloated project, investing in anything but the golden goose is a massive opportunity cost and besides I want my name on that sure win for my resume>company losing money>we can't afford not to invest in the big bloated project, investing in anything else is a massive opportunity cost and besides I don't want to get fired for being involved in a smaller project
>>714370238Yeah but their ESG score was top notch
>>714336984>Movies will never be good againBro, we have the tools to make movies without breaking the bank.
>>714330247 (OP)it's their own fault for being fucking retarded
>>714370487hopefully that score will pay the bills... wait...
>>714330247 (OP)>Own Minecraft>Still failHow?
>>714370638>say bad word>banned from your own game
>>714369224Sony isn't any better now. in fact they're just as bad. they should have stayed in Japan instead of moving to faggot California
>>714370238the world's first "AAAA" studio. it ended precisely as I predicted nearly a decade ago.
>>714333504I like his sneakers.
sissy trap
>>714330247 (OP)Elder Scrolls 6, exclusive to XBOX (no pc)
there, I just saved your company.
>>714373168Saved as in put out of it's misery. There's no TES6 hype after Slopfield and 20 years after Skyrim.
>>714330318both halo and bungie are worth nothing these days