Why is he such an in cel nowadays?

Twitter confused as hell lol

I liked Avowed.

it's such bullshit that a man's life can be ruined from mere allegations. even after those allegations are proven false.
does this happen to women at all? do the women who make these fake allegation face any prison time?

>>714356780 (OP)
is that the guy who raped those girls?

>>714356780 (OP)
who? and what are you even talking about "cel"?

>>714356964
Yeah. He apparently used his wealth to force them to embarrass themselves by writing that "actually, he didn't". What a piece of shit.

>>714356780 (OP)
I mean he probably has fond memories of obsidian considering his job there, but they've departed so much from the era where they made the good shit.
He'd have better luck working with inXile on anything right now if he wanted to actually make good games, which still holds a lot of the good segments of the guys he used to work with.

>>714357124
christ
literally the Harvey Weinstein of gaming

>>714357185
Both John Gonzalez and Chris Sawyer, two people that did more for New Vegas than he did, still work there. Doesn't seem to change his spite one bit.
Pentiment was very good btw

>>714356964
>>714357124
>>714357190
samefag

>>714356937
agreed. women who do this need to be put in prison.

I don't know why /v/ is still glazing this guy so bad
He didn't do anything in the last 2 decades

>>714357243
go to bed josh

Obshittian xisters...

>>714357330
Relax, buddy. We're just messing around. Don't pop a vein.

>>714357467
the game was actually a smash hit
everyone was playing it on gamepass and consoles instead of steam

>>714357424
For me, it's the same thing as Tim Cain
Sure, he hasn't done anything worth a shit in over a decade, but when you have that many good games in your name, you're never gonna stop being a name worth praising. I'm just not particularly interested in what you're working on next lol

>>714357569
neither of them have actually made many good games, they've been on like one or two good games and a bunch of shit ones

i believe that there are people who genuinely like avowed
it's just that the majority of people were hoping for morrowind x new vegas, not an action game

>>714357569
>Tim Cain
What a retarded fucking comparison.
Yes, -1 and -100 are the same number because they're both negative

>>714357432
No counter arguments found.

>>714357643
You cannot be claiming this shit

Chris Avellone:
>Planescape Torment
>Knights of the Old Republic 2
>Alpha Protocol
>Fallout: New Vegas - Dead Money

Tim Cain:
>Fallout
>Arcanum
>The Temple of Elemental Evil
>Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines

>>714357505
took way too long

>>714357505
>phoneflagging

lmao

>>714357802
Took you longer

>>714357764
alpha protocol and dead money were bad
temple of elemental evil is bad and tim cain didn't do much on vtmb

>>714357243
If you look at their most recent catalogue, inXile is the closest to being able to pull off the old flavor of games we actually want out of these guys at this moment.
Its also probably the most likely to even attempt anything despite only landing average success most of the time.

>>714357825
Huh?

>>714357845
shit taste

>>714357845
kys

>>714357845
>alpha protocol and dead money were bad
Retard
>temple of elemental evil is bad
Retard
>and tim cain didn't do much on vtmb
Ok, you might be right on this one. I don't know.

>>714357424
Because the shit he did back in the day actually WAS good, and because of the current talent level, and dickriding circle jerks are so bad.

Take the Veilguard writers who landed jobs at Ghost of Yotei. Or Zoe Quinn who got a job writing on the new Aliens VR game.

Avelone is in the outgroup now as far as the bigs go, but I'd be willing to consider buying any project he's attached. What was the last one he was on? Into the Breach?


>>714357505
Does we mean you and your discord trannies? Don't answer that. I'm just messing around as well.

>>714356780 (OP)
show some respect, zoomie

>>714357936
>>714357947
>>714357949
lmao did I touch a nerve?
western RPG fans have their standards in the fucking gutter, Dead Money is the most "insists on itself" piece of video game writing I've ever fucking seen

>>714357748
I'm glad Avowed didn't end up being an open world game. I'm sick to death of those, even if it's the more RPG type ones.

With that said, Avowed's writing is atrocious. Obsidian has like 2 good writers now and neither one worked on Avowed. So, yeah, it's a 7/10 action game, not a new RPG classic.

>>714358045
>western RPG fans
Oh, brother lol
Why are weebs like this? "WRPG" isn't a real thing. And Clair Obscur is a JRPG, btw, and one of the best, at that.

>>714357748
Yes. And they're the same tofu eating balless wonders who liked POE2 over POE1. Their marketing sold the concept as that. I would have settled for POE1 the action game, which it wasn't quite either, but it was, play it once, and then forget about it completely.

>>714358128
Who the fuck said I like JRPGs? They're awful

>>714358165
So you hate all RPGs?

>>714358045
Name shit that you think is worth playing in western RPGS.

>>714357243
wrong Sawyer bro

>>714358182
Nah, there's some good western RPGs, most of them are bad though just due to low production value and half baked gameplay
JRPGs however are fundmentally moronic video games

>>714358274
Ok, so you hate all RPGs. Good for you.

>>714358337
I just said there were some good ones you idiot

>>714356794
Sorry, Chris, the chuds have moved on from Avowed and are crying about other games now. You should move on too.

>>714356780 (OP)
you'd be seething too if the entire industry of snakes, rats and cockroaches backstabbed you like this for five minutes of attention whoring and virtue signaling

>>714358985
>interacting with wh*te women

his own mistake

Avellone is one of the saddest stories in gaming. Betrayed by his friends, believed to be gay until blacklisted by the industry because of some cunt. It's a cautionary tale to never really trust people.

>>714359230
he shoulda just been gay!

>>714359230
Avellone was being a cunt to Obsidian before he got cancelled lol

>>714359857
considering how Obsidian is now that's probably warranted

>>714358985
I'd believe women too if it meant I could smash this. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

>>714359857
I mean he had a good reason since his work on PoE was cut and/or changed.

>>714356780 (OP)
The tried to blackmail him into losing his shares of the company or his severance pay for a pittance because they knew his mom was going through cancer and needed him for money for it. If some dude tried to use your mom's cancer against you wouldn't you hate them?

>>714357845
>dead money were bad
either this is bait or you're a retard.

>>714360185
lmao pure cope
The guy made a lot of work for the rest of the team and left his shit unfinished and they had to play cleanup after him cause he was too busy being the kickstarter stretch goal for 7 other games at the time.

>>714360252
That's true, but that's Feargus and the rest of the upper management at Obsidian. Has nothing to do with the devs below them.

>>714360501
dead money is everything wrong with modern western RPGs
It's obsessed with "writing", the gameplay is fucking awful,, the developers literally think that having more words makes an RPG better (and their retarded fans agree)

>>714356780 (OP)
should have made PoE2 story not be complete garbage

>>714356780 (OP)
I know it would never happen but theoretically what would happen if Chris Avellone joined Bethesda and became the lead writer on fo5. Would New Vegas fanboys force themselves to hate or love the game?

>>714356794
>american literacy
Grok, what is unc saying?

Having everything you ever worked for ripped out of your hands and your name permanently smeared over a lie would make you insanely bitter, at best. He worked with some of those guys for over 20 years, he's within his rights to hate them.

>>714360718
There is a strong correlation between enjoying wall after wall of text and being an insufferable tranny cunt.
It is a perversion of the medium, same thing as snoy movieshit
Go read a book motherfuckers

>>714357243
>Chris Sawyer
Sawyer doesn't do rpg, but artsy things.
Gonzales is now working on Horizon

>>714357764
cain had only programming input on VtmB. Boyarsky and Mitsoda were the driving force behind it and Mitsoda somehow fucked up developing the sequel so bad he effectively got fired and blacklisted. Since he was the one who pitched the idea to the publisher and convinced them to take the risk

>>714361807
Avellone left Obsidian of his own volition and was already crying about it before he got cancelled, retard.

>>714361859
Nope. Gonzalez is back on Obsidian.

>>714360535
They hated him because he was so popular among fans that he became a kickstarter stretch goal.

>>714357424
Because I would probably BUY a game that he worked on,. and there's very few writers you can say that about.

>>714361423
as long as emil is in the company he will always have official or unofficial veto over the narrative writing since he is personal friends with todd

Avellone, even if forced in by lets say microsoft reforms, would always have a hard time getting anything done. Especially something as spicy as filtering out emils retardation like the 200 year old fridge kid

>>714357243
imagine making this post thinking that referencing new vegas was some kind of epitome of video game work

its a piece of shit and barely above fallout 3, it's an unfinished obsidian game (typical) and you are a shitter with no taste in good fallout games none of which came out this millennia

>>714362756
I honestly don't like New Vegas all that much but /v/ sucks its cock constantly, so it's always amusing to me to point out that Gonzalez and Sawyer were more responsible for it than Avellone. For me, it's Fallout 1.

so why dosent MCA gather a small crew of programmers, gameplay designer and artists to make his own work with full creative control? With steam and gog access to buyers has never been as easy while his name alone carries marketing weight unlike your typical no name indie upstart

like the dude is relatively wealthy he can live for years without doing much payed work

like a single siberian buryat can make a good fallout entry like fallout:Sonora on the ancient F1/f2 engine that is an ass to script on. As a side project. Surely he can do something similar with some small backing.

>>714363030
I don't think he wants the risk. He gets enough creative control as a kickstarter trophy.

>>714363030
>so why dosent MCA gather a small crew of programmers, gameplay designer and artists to make his own work with full creative control?
Because he can't afford it? He's just a video game writer

>>714363130
not anymore after he got metood by that skank. when is the last time he was a kickstarter goal

>>714363159
but he can live for years without doing much payed work? BS, he has liquid finances but only excuses not to take things in his own hands. Because he is too afraid of the risk and wants someone else to carry it

>>714356937
You could potentially sue for slander but good luck with that if the woman in question is a nobody with no money

>>714363373
Not everyone is cut out to run a game company. I think it's more interesting that, especially with woke projects failing everywhere, more people aren't taking a chance on him.

>Techland is sinking after messing with the AVELLONE CYCLONE
HAHAHA

>>714363373
>but he can live for years without doing much payed work?
Yes, are you dumb? It's paying 1 person's salary (your own) vs paying multiple peoples salaries

What is MCA even doing right now? Is he tied to any projects? I haven't heard anything about him since they discarded his work on Dying Light 2 and basically blacklisted him from the industry.

>>714357764
vtm:b is a midwit game

>>714356780 (OP)
He's one of the most overrated fucking hack I've ever seen, it's no wonder he can only make money by consulting for no name indie devs

>>714364884
Who's better than him at writing? Not even trolling.

>>714364884
>no name indie devs

>>714356780 (OP)
>>714356794
>the tribe

>>714364026
>dying light fantasy
Damn, that could have been sick

>>714366454
did you never play hellraid it was dog

I will always stand with MCA.
Get fucked Obsidian.

>>714366797
cringe post
>that filename
holy cringola

>>714369051
Shut up tranny.

>>714361807
the scandal is from 2020 and Chris left Oblivion in 2015, retard

When Chris "Kill 'em All" Avellone speaks, I listen.

>>714360012
But what of honour?

>>714357243
>Chris Sawyer
The rollercoaster tycoon guy works at Obsidian?

>>714357424
He wrote all those really shitty parts for Pillars of Eternity and the most generic goblinoid ever for Kingmaker thoughbeit?

>>714372951
noknok was based and the only good things about PoE are Durance and Eder (before 2, anyway), it's fundamentally the most boring RPG ever

>>714369142
Avellone ain't gonna fuck you, lil bro

>>714358985
Reminder that he got me-too’d about the same time the industry was bitching about him not preaching california politics in his games. He says “his politics have no place in games” one week, the next week he is cancelled.

>>714363667
he literally countersued them and won

>>714358985
This. Fucking snakes.

>the new revisionism is that dead money was a good dlc
Fuck off you disingenuous niggers

>>714369142
https://youtu.be/MiZgogBYPtM?si=Q_29RPBS55MGAVNo

>>714375689
2012 was 13 years ago.

>>714376657
Which means he preemptively sided with trannies before they became the cultural plague they are now. He helped open the gates of Toledo. Think his views on Christians, 'sexists' and 'misogynists' has changed in 13 years either?

>>714356780 (OP)
hes white and Obsidian sucks really hates white people

>>714377013
>Which means
I don't care.

>>714375689
OH NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>714357330
>autist can't detect obvious sarcasm

>>714356937
In a few years it will also put people in jail. You wouldn't believe the shit people get put in jail for, because all laws are based on hypocrisy and people's "feelings".

>>714379373
Rapers should get jailed, yeah

>>714363159
He's wealthy and he's bragged about being wealthy when he was raging at Obsidian, daring them to sue him. He just doesn't have the will to start a game company, it's a lot of work. It went poorly for the Troika trio.

>>714373597
He probably will, without even asking

>>714371634
More like "Fuck 'em All" in his case

>>714364249
Busy raping every person he comes across still

>>714356906
Me too. Only Bethesdrones who care more about muh world reactivity than quests and writing hated it

>>714382678
I'm the guy you're replying to and I think the writing of the game sucked desu senpai

>>714381391
Troikas main failure was being active just before Steam got released. They would have survived with their small company on Arcanum sales alone if it went directly to them even after steams 30% cut

Imagine VtmB being one of the first games released on steam alongside HL2 that introduced it

>>714381391
I wonder if he is financially free but also likes making content for fallout why dosent he entertain himself with modding. Like Romero does with doom. Dont need a company as he can find enough freelance scripting help to implement his quests and characters he could design for new vegas or fallout 4

With the advent of those voice mimicking LLM algorithms you dont even need actual human voice actors with decent microphones anymore

>>714359230
He should get in touch with Alexis Kennedy in order to find out how he can make it through the ring of fire. Guy was severed from his brainchild of Fallen London, took his missus from Failbetter to his new studio, and ended up mogging them with every consecutive game and forging an even more intense cult of personality. He persevered and came out of #metoo practically unscathed.

>>714358045
>Dead Money is the most "insists on itself" piece of video game writing I've ever fucking seen
Dead money is a killer concept bogged down by obshittian's technical inaptitude. (the ghost people detection bug is actually just a consequence of level scaling, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1gh2J-aEuM)

The only serious flaw with the writing of DM is - surprise surprise - Christine. Who knew eating pussy turns a brotherhood scribe into a master of stealth, unarmed combat, melee weapon combat, explosives expert, firearms expert and energy weapon expert. It also forces the ghost people to HECKIN' RESPECT HER "YAS QUEEN" Mary Sue status and allow her to walk around the Sierra Madre completely unmolested.

>>714386064
what are you even talking about culture warrior tard. christine is barely in it and serves as a vehicle of resurrecting a dead prostitutes voice. sounds like you are just looking for any excuse to hate any random pair of tits in your way

>>714386529
>what are you even talking about
Exactly what i wrote down, retard. If you ask Christine about her skills, she lists off stealth, unarmed, melee, explosives, guns, and energy weapons, all at "master" aka 100 skillpoints despite being a fucking scribe. Her good ending explicitly states that she stays in the Sierra Madre and uses her rug muncher Mary sue powers to pacify the ghost people and "walk among them". Something Dean Domino explicitly states he (and many others ) have tried to do for 200+ years and failed, but Christine just so happens to find a way to do it. See: https://youtu.be/0wkJn08-tjM?si=77pMCcEPIGZi07Os&t=170

>>714356780 (OP)
He should dump his life savings in PoE III and then off himself if it flops. Ill have had my fun at least.

>>714358045
Dead Money is absolute dogshit all around and I'm sick to death of hearing it get fellated.

>>714383818
>but also likes making content for fallout
He doesn't is the answer, he likes being a famous video game writer. This is pretty clear from his professional output, the dude doesn't want to make art he wants to be acclaimed. He writes the same story over and over again

>>714386529
Dead Money fans, everyone.

>>714387419
>If you ask Christine about her skills, she lists off stealth, unarmed, melee, explosives, guns, and energy weapons, all at "master" aka 100 skillpoints despite being a fucking scribe.
She's a Circle of Steel operative.

>>714356780 (OP)
banished unjustly to the darkness, a legend returns to the light

>>714356780 (OP)
Reminder Avellone lost all chill ever since they tried to #MeToo him.

>>714358985
didnt help that his defence was dogshit tho. i could not imagine anything makes you look more guilty then calling the people who accused you liars without actually disproving them and then immediate radio silence. retard

>>714391220
She is a brotherhood scribe who abandons the brotherhood and chases after Elijah after helios one because he's an evil old white man who didn't approve of her and Veronica having lesbo sex. I can believe that she being a brotherhood scribe, has a basic level of knowledge on how to fight with all those various weapons, even if she didn't receive extensive combat training like a knight would. I can also believe she has further cultivated those skills in the years she spent chasing after Elijah across the wasteland. What i can't believe is that she is a master in all of those skills and that she can somehow pacify the ghost people.

>>714366797
Fact Obsidian has descended into complete mediocrity ever since he left is testament enough. Yeah, they made buggy and incomplete games, but there was vision and heart to them.

>>714391781
I hope he joined the Dark Side, I want edgy kino back.

>>714391948
>Fact Obsidian has descended into complete mediocrity ever since he left
They haven't made a good game since New Vegas

>>714386064
The "only serious flaw" of the writing of Dead Money is it takes itself far too fucking seriously and thinks it's way better than it actually is
It thinks it's telling a deep, profound, emotional, thought-provoking story when it's not

>>714381391
>He's wealthy
He's a video game writer
He takes gigs writing for indie games
He isn't wealthy

>>714375689
Your based enlightened moral nihilist writer, xer.

>>714357845
>tim cain didn't do much on vtmb
Sure
>temple of elemental evil is bad
Retard
All his games are great besides The Outer Worlds.

>>714356964
No, he's the guy who won a 6-figure settlement after two women confessed to falsely accusing him :)

>>714391805
>without actually disproving them
It's not always possible to "disprove" false allegations.
That's why the burden of proof is on the accuser.
We should not "believe women", we should believe evidence.

>>714393696
Tyranny was good, and Avellone wrote the most based character in Pillars of Eternity.

>>714397132
You've got garbage taste and probably enjoy YA novels

>>714397180
Yes, religious purges are very YA

>>714356937
it wasn't just the fake allegations, he had an issue with drinking and sexually harassing women. that's what got him cancelled.

>>714402542
That was all me. Sorry my phone was out of battery and he was lending me his phone.

>>714390183
he offered to work for free to todd if he can mess around with fallout some more. that and he bothered to put together the fallout bible back when it was not really asked just so the narrative and lore structure between f1 and f2 stays coherent

guy likes fallout even before it was cool to do so

>>714402542
He sent one drunk reply to a friend and coworker who had reached out to him first and apologized profusely the following morning.

>>714356780 (OP)
i didn't even know they put him in jail!

>>714356780 (OP)
>>714356794
Avellone did nothing wrong.
Fuck those fags at twitter and at xbox

>>714403501
I'm gonna be honest. I don't have deep connections in the industry or anything, but I've been hearing about Avellone being a creep at conventions well before he got cancelled. I figured people were just kinda ok with it and talking behind his back lol
I've been hearing it pre 2014 btw. He had a reputation by that point already.

>>714383818
>>714390183
Because it's pathetic to make some no-budget fan mod if you have the talent (Romero doesn't) and résumé to do it professionally.
Avellone should have been hired by Bethesda to direct an Elder Scrolls title after Skyrim instead of having a two decade interval between installments.

>>714356780 (OP)
Avowed felt like every piece of the game had to be approved by multiple corporate HR ladies, it takes no risks whatsoever and has no nuance or depth, it felt completely soulless compared to the mainline Pillars games it spun off from.

>>714403754
Those are called "rumors", typically hearsay and slander from people with a bone to pick.

>>714403501
one drunk reply that we know of*

>>714357124
slandering is a powerful weapon in human history far better than a sword or a gun.

>>714403754
its called flirting and it used to be normal for men to initiate it before the era of social media brain rot. if a woman did not like it then she would tell him to fuck off ("I have to go and talk to my friends") and most men would get the message with everybody moving on

>>714404607
>I assume the existence of further evidence supporting my preconceived notions and slander accordingly

>>714404789
Isn't Avellone like 5'5", how short is that girl??

>>714357846
Brian Fargo won

>>714404073
avellone offered todd directly to make spin offs of mainline fallout and elder scrolls game when new vegas was going on. Seems like bethesda didn't like the idea. so they bought a b-tier studio making a fps flop and had them make Flopout 76 with all the fanfare it bought

There must have been some really bad blood between the management of the companies to ditch this obviously winning formula with NV era obsidian being bethesdas sidekick

>>714405145
most women are manlet tier in comparison. See elliot page

>>714404073
fan mods can be more professional then the developers themselves. for every frontier you get a sonora once in a while

>>714404789
Bro, if you have women saying you're creeps behind your back in 2012, you were not just "flirting". You weren't good at it

>>714405921
when women gather into herds they behave like hen and talk shit about absolutely everybody. gossiping has negative connotations for a reason

he might be shit at it but its perfectly normal behavior in itself

>>714405921
Its flirting if they like it and get what they want out of it.
Its creepy if not.
You should know that by now. If a landwhale flirted you vs a big boob model you would think the same way.

>>714407127
There's more to it than that. I'm not gay, but I doubt Avellone is a particularly unattractive man. Especially by vidya developer standards.

>>714356906
Haven't finished it yet but it was pretty decent for what I've played of it. Definitely not the pile of shit I expected it to be

>>714408957
It's been 15 years since New Vegas, look up his more recent pics.

>>714408957
if you are shit at flirting that is a natural turn off. if he does not get the message and keeps pushing it that is when it turns into "creepy"

>>714407127
lmao incel

>>714409283
lol

>>714393945
He owns property in Los Angeles, look up the price of those. He was a junior partner at Obsidian, which required a somewhat notable investment, and he made a ton of money freelancing after he quit. There's a lot of money to be made from exploiting a celebrity dev status. Josh Sawyer's open about making $210,000 a year being Obsidian's design director. Avellone was earning quite a bit more than that before that woman ruined his career.

>>714356937
there was the french man that drugges his wife and had other men rape her while subconscious for years.

>>714393696
I think their games since DS3 are much more solid as complete packages, but they're also very uninspired. Stick of Truth, for example, is a criminally overlooked game.

>>714412285
>Josh Sawyer's open about making $210,000 a year being Obsidian's design director.
Sawyer also lives in California, though.

I'm amazed that the art director that singlehandedly fucked Avowed's marketing plans is still there.

>>714413550
Microsoft has deliberately tanked their gaming division in pursuit of "the modern audience".
Gamepass exists to maximize the reach of their propaganda and obfuscate their losses.

>>714412285
Sawyer also said nary a word in defense of Avellone, quisling little bike cuck

>>714413121
And complains about not being able to afford a house, meanwhile a few years back Avellone's wife who lives and works in LA was talking on social media how excited she was to be moving into her new house.

>>714415598
People are forgetting Avellone and Obsidian had an entirely separate beef long before he was cancelled. It stands to reason Sawyer wouldn't defend him. To say nothing of the fact Avellone has betrayed all his followers and larps as a defender of justice 'confronting evil wherever it may so appear' (his words) because he has grudge against Obsidian.

>>714416281
>Avellone and Obsidian had an entirely separate beef
Obsidian's owners exploiting his mother's cancer using Chris's desperate need for his health insurance to make him work doubletime?

>>714412285
If Avellone was rich he wouldn't be taking writing gigs for indie games

>>714409283
>marriage ring
>cancelled for flirting with a woman
Is he married? Was he committing adultery?

>>714417859
He's stated that he takes a reduced fee and sometimes even works for free on those projects if he's excited about them. He just likes working on games. But he charged the big boys the big bucks.

>>714416893
>osidian owners
avellone was one of the owners. he owned shared in the outfit as he was a founding member

>>714417859
I know this fries your brain but sometimes wealthy people keep doing a job because they like it

Avellone has no excuse. I he wants to implement his full blown narratives he should make his own company and hire enough crew to at least make a indie title. having some skanks talk shit about you on social media and soiboys seal clap it does not bar him from doing his own thing

>>714357764
Tim Cain barely did anything for VtMB. He was a programmer and barely did anything for VtMB besides fixing shit as he was too busy with Temple of Elemental Evil release and bug fixes. The real creative force was Boyarsky, who hates the game because it put him into depression back then and is one of greatest disappointments according to him.

>>714361423
He would be given middle finger and told to suck up Emil's bullshit because Emil is Todd's best friend.

>>714386529
He is right though. Christine was written as a Mary Sue because one dyke developer wanted more LGBT representation in game. Most shit about Christine doesn't make any sense at all. She is a scribe, which is equivalent to monk rank in BoS but for some reason she is a fucking master of combat and stealth, despite being a fucking monk who would mostly spend time reading and fixing things instead of fighting. Dean Domino and Dog/God state that it's impossible to walk around Ghost people peacefully unless you sneak through or straight up kill them, but for no reason at all Christine is a Mary Sue who gets pass in the end and walks freely without any problems. She was obviously forced into the game as some dyke's cope.

>>714422506
>Christine was written as a Mary Sue because one dyke developer wanted more LGBT representation in game.
I find it far more likely she was written by some creepy "ally" soi_boi who fetishizes lesbian relationships due to them gooning to lesbian porno. If she (or Veronica) were written by real lesbos, they would be more like actual lesbos, aka like Parvati from Outer Worlds; a socially awkward asexual weirdo who is really just afraid of sex, which is why they find comfort in "dating" another woman. Real lesbians literally don't have sex, look up "lesbian bed death"

>>714421556
wonder what boyarsky thinks of the fact vtmb is seen as a great game these days and deeply appreciated as a classic. Also he was a leading force but not the only one. Brian Mitsoda also carried his weight and squandered his reputation on the botched Vtmb 2

>>714423407
>wonder what boyarsky thinks of the fact vtmb is seen as a great game these days
He is confused about that because according to him the game is a flop and almost killed his career.

Avellone's reputation is carried by Planescape: Torment

>>714423110
Dead Money's story was 100% Avellone

>>714423578
>according to him the game is a flop and almost killed his career.
He is correct, VTMB is fake "hidden gem" hipsters mod the fuck out of and pretend to like. The vanilla game a janky, unfinished piece of shit, but as the mods prove it wasn't irredeemable.

>>714423973
Case closed. NV-era Avellone was in fact an insufferable soiboi who gooned to lesbian porno + a massive drunk.

>>714404789
yep. you're an incel.

>>714423110
>>714423973
>>714424216
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Theresa_Treadwell
Here's the dyke that pushed it. You're welcome

>>714424842
I stand corrected.

turns out mah boi Chrissy helped out with picrel
absolute legend