Thread 714370715

I finished Yakuza 0 Director’s Cut by completing it to 100% before concluding the story.

>Story
The story is not changed, apart from about 30 mins worth of cutscenes. You won’t see any of the cutscenes until the second half of the game.

I will just say that most of the new cutscenes are actually very good. The one outlier which shouldn’t have existed is the Lee death retcon, as well as Majima saying he’ll fix Makoto’s watch, which harms the impact of the post-credit scene.
“Retconning” the loan shark’s death made sense, it would inform the players to be aware of Shibusawa as the hidden threat instead of being a literal last-minute villain.
The gameplay cutscene of Kiryu and Kuze after their last fight was converted into a cinematic cutscene, this is good and affects nothing.
Billiken’s death retcon made sense, he has many connections, but he still was booted out of the force. He was only shot once, and in the back, while Nishitani got five bullets in his chest. Since Nishitani wasn’t revived, it affects nothing, and introduced the continuity of the Kijin Clan having all their patriarchs named after him. The scene of Majima calling Billiken after confronting Shimano provides proper closure, and makes Majima understand that he and Nishitani are more alike than he assumed.
The scene of
The car scene with Kiryu and Nishiki is funny, it also affects nothing.

All in all, the story is exactly the same. Most of the new cutscenes add nuance, while one outlier ruins a few aspects.
>Gameplay
It’s literally the same game.
Autosave exists, and you can save anywhere. No Kiwami style switching.
>Other
The English dub is good. I’d say that Yong Yea, while not the best, still has very good delivery on most occasions. The Majima side of the story had excellent dub voice acting, Kiryu’s side was mid to good.
The game is not worth $50. It should’ve been $40, at most.
Redlight Raid is lame. It was okay on a run or two, but gets repetitive.

>>714370715 (OP)
>The one outlier which shouldn’t have existed is the Lee death retcon, as well as Majima saying he’ll fix Makoto’s watch, which harms the impact of the post-credit scene.
This alone is a deal breaker for me.

Every other death recon is similarly idiotic white-washing. Y0 was the first PROPER yakuza mafioso experience in the series, because people actually DIED, pathetically, and everyone was more or less a jackass.

>autosaves and save-anywhere
Literal cancer, making the already too easy game way easier.

>>714370715 (OP)
Do you still gotta do mini games for the completion list

Crack status?

>>714370715 (OP)
in other words, just stick to original release

>>714370715 (OP)
>dubfag
opinion discarded

>>714370715 (OP)
>dub is good
Instantly invalidated the entirety of your post with that one.

>>714370715 (OP)
>No Kiwami style switching
Huh?

>>714370715 (OP)
Yakuza 0 story is terrible, it keeps using deus ex machina, it keeps reviving characters that should be dead, it has too much plot armor for the heroes, it has retarded characterization for the villains, it has pacing issues, it has many plot holes and in general the dialogue has too much exposition, furthermore the presentation and cinematics direction is just subpar and not engaging or immersive enough, thanks to cutting the screen back to static dialogue.

I just don't get it, why do people praise this game story? its fucking shit, there is nothing good about it, even the ending is halfassed and feels unrewarding and stupid.

Is this series peak "Never Fucking Played It" for wannabe GAYmer fags? All I've ever heard is how amazing it is without a single bad word or negative consensus. I've finished the first game and just started the second and the controls are such fucking slop the shit is nearly unplayable. I feel like if anyone had actually played the shit that didn't grow up with the controls, then that would be the prevailing narrative for this series. Resident Evil must be the Normal Faggot tank control filter because the zoomies that bitch about those games would fucking rope playing this shit.

>>714372807
Yes.
>>714374106
>>714375120
Kill yourslves, contrarian retards.
>>714375173
Kiwami has the legend style as the down button and abilities that allow you to swap styles in the middle of evading or attacks or when downed.

>>714370715 (OP)
While your points are valid, it's not worth full price. Not by far.

>>714376970
>Was gonna try to 100% directors cut when it comes to steam
>Still gotta do mini games
Guess i'll be content with just beating amon ;_:

>>714370715 (OP)
If the only new content is just a bunch of cinematics, why not just make a mod that adds those videos into the PC game? Should be easy, just record them as videos and play them back at the right time.

>>714370715 (OP)
>The English dub is good
everything you said or will say is pointless because you are a secondary dub fag

Recycling Osaka in 7G went too far. Literally nothing worth doing in that game except for 6 substories and the main quest.
I'll just post it here because a 7G thread would never take off and I just finished it.

What’s the playing order for the Yakuza series? Are all the spin offs and remakes recommended? Certain versions preferable over others?

>>714370715 (OP)
I want to get this game, but I'll wait until it's on PlayStation because where I have all the other Yakuza games, and I'll probably wait for a sale.

>>714370715 (OP)
*ahem*
kys
0fag

>>714378352
in-game timeline order with remakes
0-K1-K2-3-4-5-6-7-7G-8-8G
or by release order skipping remakes
1-2-3-4-5-0-6-7-7G-8-8G
the rest are optional, judgment stories are 99% unrelated to yakuza stories

Anyone finished the Pirate game? Does anything important happen in that story? Anything that might have an impact on the larger narrative? I kind of want to skip that game, it looks retarded.

>>714378960
>Does anything important happen in that story?
No. I liked it, but you can absolutely skip it.

>>714376970
>not liking shitty ENG dubs makes you a contrarian
80 IQ post

>>714375552
Maybe if you weren't such a brain damaged brown shitskin you would understand. Im so sorry :(

>>714378960
Majima and Saejima visit Kiryu in the hospital

>>714378352
Play 0 and the original ps2 versions of 1 and 2. (Judgement is fine too)
Then forget the series exists because everything else is laughably bad and not worth playing.

Anyone thinking the new cutscene other than Lee's retcon are fine is retarded. It's a litmus test

>>714380046
shit 0babies say. At least you had the decency to pretend you played the original versions of 1 and 2.

They really should have cut out the Redlight MP shit and added a couple new side quests or

>>714380046
4 is great, fuck you. The only bad game is 3.

>>714380046
Only games worse than 1 are 6 and Dead Souls.

>>714380329
4 is the only bad game, 3 is great. 3 gives new framing to Kiryu (a caring father figure), introduces a cool location and has a lot of shots of Haruka being cute. 4 is set entirely in Kamurocho which is already boring, the prison segment is the most boring shit ever, the detective guy is a retard who looks like a monkey and Saejima's fighting style is slow and gay, also he is slow and gay. Akiyama tries to carry 4 but he can't do it alone

>>714378960
The game’s story has no relevance to the general plot, but it picks up from the consequence of Yakuza 8. The game is still really fun and has amazing substories.

>>714380618
Both are better than 1 though. 6 has a great melancholic mood, it's a game for old fucks. Dead Souls is just fun as shit, the gameplay is great and the stories are fun and original.
The actual games that are worse than 1 are the samurai ones. They suck but Haruka is an underage prostitute in Kenzan and Kiryu confesses that he's in love with her so I can't hate it

1 is a bad soap opera but new cutscenes from 0 are a fucking joke

>>714375716
>the controls are such fucking slop the shit is nearly unplayable
Being filtered by a PS2 game talks more about you than anyone else.

>>714370715 (OP)
>completing it to 100% before concluding the story.
Stopped reading here

>>714370715 (OP)
>Yong Yea
You can fuck right off. I'll never associate the nasally piece of shit voice of that Venezuelan chink with Kiryu

>>714378307
7G should've just been a literal DLC for 7.
I get it's a different style gameplay, but it would've been much better off being tied to 7 like Majima Saga in K2 or Kaito Files in LJ than trying to pass it off as a different game.
Haven't played 8G yet, but I'm guessing it's much the same. Not enough to really be it's own game.

>>714370715 (OP)
>Majima saying he’ll fix Makoto’s watch
Who asked for this, do japs not have the ability to draw connections???

>>714378352
Kiwami is trash, just saying. Majima Everywhere is the shittiest mechanic the could've come up with.
Play the PS2 version, people filtered by sixth gen games are subhumans anyway.

>>714381713
Story wise it's definitely justified to be its own game, it's a bit short but I still got 17 hours out of it before getting bored, that's a big DLC.
It JUST needed a better city. They did nothing with Osaka, it feels copypasted. Was a perfect opportunity to expand it a little bit.

>>714381187
stop overreacting, he’s nowhere near as bad as you think.

>>714381913
>Majima Everywhere is the shittiest mechanic the could've come up with
Just skip it. It's easy enough. The first time I played Kiwami I never did any Majima Anywhere stuff. You just have to avoid having a weapon on you when walking by Policeman Majima and he'll never start roaming.

>>714382053
>it feels copypasted
Because it is, because its a standalone DLC made with an even smaller budget than usual. I wouldn't expect anything more, same way 8G reuses Hawaii or hell, even how the Judgment games reuse the same maps.

>>714370715 (OP)
I platinum'd lost judgement and i regret it

>>714382318
Haven't played 8G but Judgment 1 finished PS4 gen Kamurocho (6 only had a part of it playable) and Judgment 2 at least gave new ways to explore Yokohama, and Dead Souls had Kamurocho in ruins. Playing 7G just feels like playing K2, the storefronts are about the only change I can see

>>714370715 (OP)
Why is it not on sale?

>>714382685
Platinuming any Yakuza game is a worthless, mind numbing slog. Fuck getting 100% on the completion lists.
I like these games, but I'll never platinum any of them, futhest I'll go is getting the legend achievement and that's already two playthroughs.

>>714382980
Is it worth it to do all the side stories, but not all the mahjong and blackjack stuff?

>>714382685
I got the Lost Judgment platinum too, but the real bad one is the first Judge Eyes.

>>714383072
Yes. Doing all substories is worthwhile, but doing all the gambling stuff and mahjong games is soul killing. Can't imagine having to redo it for every game either.

>>714382980
Yakuza 7, Gaiden, Yakuza 8, and Pirate Majima are bloody easy platinums. I never had to touch mahjong with any of them.

>>714383221
Judge Eyes and Lost Judgment allows you to swap experience points for cheat items, the latter allows you to eat 4 lucky menu items at a restaurant and enemies will drop gambling items instead of plates.

>>714383221
But what about the Mahjong substories?

>>714375716
Filtered.
I know tons of people who indeed played MGS, RE, SH and such games when they were already mature adults, and loved them.

>>714383164
I did the drone racing and koi koi (with moddee cheat items) and i cant be fucked to do legendd o finish it off

>>714382980
I kinda liked platinuming ishin tho
with mods

>>714385050
>ishin
God I forgot that terrible remake existed. Only Yakuza game I can say I truly hated. Even Kiwami 2 wasn't that bad, and it was pretty fucking bad.

>>714385157
People begged for it, that's the funniest part. And RGG gave us some experiment made in Unreal

>>714385157
Ishin is flawed at its very core due to its reliance on grinding and constant traversal between two polar opposite ends of the map. The cards outside of the dungeons, bosses using magic, horrible UE4 visuals and stutter were just icing on a burnt cake. There was good reason Ishin was never released in the West before.

>1 in 10 people platinumed 7G
This is the most autistic fanbase I've ever seen
Yeah I know it's relatively easy to platinum but still

>>714382157
He's exactly as bad as I think you homosexual. Kiryu's original english VA was considerably better.

I asked Deepseek what the next Yakuza city will be and he said a Singapore based game involving Akiyama. Do with that what you will

>>714386834
Yeah, but Darryl Kurylo was a white man and that's bad. You can't have a white man voicing a Japanese man. That's why they hired a Korean!

>>714385714
I did it and it was meh as fuck, just like 7G

>>714387156
>I asked Deepseek

>>714387156
>he said a Singapore based game involving Akiyama
Only because a billion people all over reddit have said the same thing. "AI" chatbots just regurgitate whatever info they find on that shithole of a forum.

>>714387230
In Yakuza 9 it will be revealed that Kiryu was a secret Korean all along.

This series is now completely catered to the reddit 0babies. Let this be a lesson to future generations of other series. Always gatekeep harder.

>>714387479
Did nothing wrong and got the girl in the end

>>714387868
Nah only the JRPG shit is. And the Majima shit... Okay it could be a trend but it's too early to tell

>>714387868
This. Series ended with 5 in my mind. When 5 came out RGG was on its last legs, they couldn't even do a physical worldwide release. I wish it really did kill the series.

>>714388083
>series ended with Kiryu lying in the snow bleeding out as Haruka quit her career for nothing
Great ending faggot

>>714387934
It's wild that in the last year or two, ChatGPT has actually become the go to source for answers to everything and everybody now relies on it whereas even in 2023 it was seen as a joke.

>>714388179
Better ending than 6, that's for sure, and way better than the rotting corpse they're still dragging around a decade later.

>>714388429
6 was a perfect ending for Kiryu and 7G was a perfect ending for Tojo/Omi. The only stories they botched are the JRPG ones but thankfully 7G fixed all the important stuff.

>>714388579
And then they just HAD to fuck it up in 8. And they'll do it again in 9!

>>714388657
Project Century will fix everything, trust the plan

>>714388817
>has survival mechanics
No, I don't think it will.

>>714386834
I’m not disagreeing with you, illiterate retard. I’m just saying you’re overreacting.
Blow it out your ass.

>>714388817
idk man
Shit's been pretty dire since Nagoshi left

>>714389440
Whatever happened to that studio he formed? Has he shown anything about his new (Not)Yakuza game?

You would not get cancer IRL the way Kiryu got cancer

>>714389789
Yeah, but RGG can’t blame tobacco or alcohol, or they’d lose their biggest sponsors.

I complete forgot how the story completely stalls at several times to introduce some side activity you don't care about.
Thought this meme began in later games.

>>714389789
It was such an ass-pull. 8 puts 5 to shame in the amount ass-pulling it does.

>>714389981
It began in 4 when you have to play dress up for 3 hours to advance the story like 20 minutes after the game begins.

>>714370715 (OP)
I've been trying to decide between Judgement and Lost Judgement for a replay. I like the story and characters of the first game a lot more but the gameplay and side content in LJ is way better.

>>714390218
J had a better story though and all the school shit sucked

>>714390218
Judgment is rough to go back to. The combat is such a slog, especially before getting upgrades. And whoever thought you should walk in combat and use the same button to sprint and quickstep should be shot.

>>714390218
Play LJ, I found the story better the second time I played through it on Legend dubbed.

>>714390132
In 3 playing house IS the story

>>714370715 (OP)
>The English dub is good.
Hi smooth brain!

>>714390463
Yeah, 3 fucking sucked. I hate all the orphanage shit and am so glad that they sidelined that shit in all the future games.

>>714376970
fuck off yong im not listening to your shitty voice

>>714390532
I love the orphanage shit and am upset that Haruka is barely relevant anymore. At this rate I don't think Haruto will ever be the MC

>>714370715 (OP)
Did they do anything with the car chase? That shit is near IMPOSSIBLE on Legend its hilarious desu

>>714390686
Haruka is the worst part of the series. There's a reason why 0 and 7 are the most beloved entries in the series: NO HARUKA.

>>714389995
Basically this
https://youtu.be/cAtHQc55qEM?si=sFmPBZdF388JKxU7

>>714390717
I hope they at least add mouse aiming in the inevitable PC version like Kiwami had. Only way I could ever beat it on Legend and it still took 5 tries (and fuck going back to the beginning of the entire chapter every time).
Never managed to beat it in 0 on Legend. Just can't aim well enough with a controller.

>>714376970
>He likes his games with mediocre voice acting and mispronounced japanese words
Midwit take desu.

>>714390772
Haruka is cute and should become Akiyama's disciple and co-star with him in the next arc of the series.

>>714370715 (OP)
>yooooong out
>good
kill yourself

>>714390947
The best part is right after that you have to protect Makoto as Kiryu so if she gets snatched you have to do the entire fucking car chase again was so fucked up lmao

>>714376970
>abilities that allow you to swap styles in the middle of evading or attacks or when downed
Doesn't 0 have that with the quick change clothes you get from the clown?

>>714388579
>6 was a perfect ending for Kiryu
Nah. Kiryu either needed a happy ending or death. Becoming a lapdog for some guy is terrible.

>>714390532
The plot is so horrendous too. Somehow this was the most popular Yakuza game in the West before 0. How?

>>714391356
They should've retired him after 3 as originally planned. Show him in 4 running the orphanage and fight him on the beach, but don't have him be a playable character. The game was literally subtitled: "The successor to the legend" and yet somehow Kiryu became the successor to himself?
They just can't help themselves.

>>714391536
>How?
Because the PS3 had no games and it was billed as "Japanese GTA" so a lot of people played it. Features a lot of Americans and is about American imperialism too, so it's relatable.

>>714390717
Nope, literally nothing different.

>>714391692
The fact that 4 and 5 weren't even released for the longest time in the west kind of makes 3 the most popular by default, out of the HD ones. 5 came out in 2015. On PS3. Who the fuck played it at that point

>>714391060
All that does is decrease the time you need to swap styles, it’s not at all fluid like Kiwami.

>>714392068
>Who the fuck played it at that point
0 and Kiwami were released on the PS3 as well, but only in Japan. For some reason, the PS3 in Japan was like the PS4 everywhere else, it just kept getting games long after its time. It was a mistake to not port 5 to PS4 sooner though, would've likely boosted sales significantly.

>>714370715 (OP)
The English dub is absolutely shit. It's a total disgrace compared to the Japanese dub.

>>714392660
Yeah, I don't usually mind dubs, but this is god awful, and for a series that's been exclusively Japanese for so long, it's weird not to have characters with their trademark voices.

>>714380329
3 is the game that made me fall in love the series years ago. I randomly got it from gamefly and I was like oh shit, this is actually pretty good. It's like a JRPG/ Brawler. Had to go back and play 1 and 2 on ps2 after that.

>>714393014
Matt Mercer is a good enough Majima. Yong fucking sucks even as young Kiryu which is the only possible Kiryu he should ever even think of playing so that says a lot

how does the game perform on switch2?

He's never coming back, is he?

>>714393167
Ugh tak, you're back

>>714393167
No. Judgment is dead. All side characters have already been moved to the main series.

>>714392660
I changed it to English to see how they did the telephone club girls and I was really surprised at how awful Kiryu was in English since I still haven't gotten around to non-Judgment post-6 games yet.

>>714393167
It didn't even need a second game, why ask for a third?

>>714371002
Its a yakuza game, there is no way to die anyway unless you set the controller down so it doesn't really affect difficulty. The benefit is I can just close the game when i want instead of running to phone booth

>>714393147
No lag whatsoever, it’s comparable to the PS4 version, but the character textures is noticeably lower.

>>714388992
It makes sense having that.
The restaurants will finally be useful at least and I love vidya food

>>714393371
Pirate Yakuza has a better dub than sub, and I’m dying on this hill.

>>714393167
Hiring a real actor to play Yagami was a mistake, especially the most expensive one from a notorious agency.

>>714393887
that’s sounds good enough for me (I really don’t want to see all the pores). Thank you anon

>>714393858
Not true, and that does not mean they need to make it easier.

>I can just close the game when i want instead of running to phone booth
People need to realize that ADHD fags are not the majorioty, and need not to be the target audience.

>>714395752
you’re not the majority, not everyone a weirdo like you.
everyone else likes the ability to save anywhere at their convenience

>>714376970
>No kiwami style switching
That really sucks wanted at least some QoL improvements. I hoped the "Follow Nishiki/character" would be faster or skippable for second playthroughs. Enjoyed the dub from the previews however, Young fits a younger kiryu more.

>>714395886
>ADHD fag think's he's "normal"
It's a mental illness for a reason, punk.
Manual, limited save spots encourage exploration, and in case of survival horror games should be mandatory.

>>714396730
Yakuza is a survival horror game now?
There's nothing lost in a game like this with being able to save anywhere.

>>714396730
Yakuza isn’t a horror game lol, it’s an open-world casual game series. Go be an annoying loser somewhere else.

>>714396730
>survival horror
>yakuza
lol. But even in the OG Resident Evil on PSX, 'survival horror' is just a meme and they give way too many ink ribbons.

>>714397190
>>714397360
>reading comprehension is hard lol!
Yup, autism confirmed.

>>714397575
> 'survival horror' is just a meme and they give way too many ink ribbons.
Wrong on both claims.
The ADHD zoom zooms HATE the stress of Ink Ribbons so much, they removed them from the modern de-makes.

>>714397760
>Unc really needed 30+ ribbons for classic RE

Is Gaiden worth it for people that don't like 6 and think Nagoshi should've retired Kiryu in 3? Although 5's Kiryu was peak, in a way...

>>714398334
>Is Gaiden worth it for people that don't like 6
No.

>>714393167
Why Yakuza spin-offs are cursed to be abandoned after one or two games?
Kurohyou was also so good.

>>714398895
Kurohyou was made by a different company.
Judgment was a passion project from Nagoshi (he wrote it rather than Yokoyama), with him now gone it's not going to continue.

Since people are already fighting I'll just admit this here: I've played every mainline yakuza game and I've only finished 2 of them. 4(my first one) and the original(the second one I played).

I don't know why I'm like this. I generally like the games but I just don't like them enough to finish them.

>>714390218
good luck with replaying JE and tolerating the tailing segments and the slow as fuck combat speed without upgrades

say what you will about,LJ but at least you start off there already with the maximum combo speed

claiming that the story in LJ is bad and/or worse than JE is the most reddit take I've ever seen. I bet you faggots also like to shit on MGS stories because you consider yourselves pseudo intellectuals

>>714401406
This. For a Yakuza game it's actually surprisingly coherent and well written.

>>714398334
Yes

>>714401406
LJ story was better than I remembered, but I still think all Kuwana stans are annoying brainlets.

>>714390772
0 is beloved because we actually do yakuza shit in a yakuza game
7 is beloved because RGG is very good at creating new characters and new stories

>>714403509
Oh yeah??? well what about Sawa-Sensei

>>714405441
>RGG is very good at creating new characters and new stories
Yeah, they need more refreshes. Judgment was great too because it started fresh and uninhibited from past games.

>>714406265
I love how they did this with 7 then forgot about it with 8

>>714370715 (OP)
I have often thought about this serirs and i want to try it, where should i start? Didn't they basically remake the entire series recently? Or should i just play the original games?

>>714406265
I think Yakuza 1 being the way it was created railroaded the overall franchise’s story into an absurd continuity. After Yakuza 0’s immense success, you can tell RGG realized they don’t like a lot of the writing decisions they made.
Personally, I think killing of supposedly big and important characters in Yakuza 1 without even giving them proper backstories to let fans know them better was a serious mistake, it takes a prequel and a remake to somewhat rectify it.

>>714388058
Not anyone else’s fault they made Majima overshadow Kiryu in 0.

>>714388243
As long as chatgpt refuses to tell me how to make my own handgrenades, it will always suck ass.

RGG is kinda crap to write sequels to the games with better writing. LJ, Y8, Kurohyou 2, all shat on bed.

>>714407497
Don’t over-complicate it, just go with the developer’s intended order, which is the chronological order.

>Yakuza 0
>Kiwami 1
>Kiwami 2
>Yakuza 3, 4, and 5
>Yakuza 6
>Judgmen 1, aka Judge Eyes
>Yakuza 7: Like A Dragob
>Lost Judgment
>Kiryu Gaiden
>Yakuza 8 / Infinite Wealth
>Pirate Majima

Wherever you play Judgment and Lost Judgment is optional, but it’s preferable you touch them after Yakuza 6.

>>714408035
K thx

>>714407497
1, 2 and Ishin (a samuria spin-off) got remakes. The rest are just remasters.
Best entry point are either 1 PS2 or 0.
>but Kiwami
Mediocre remake with new callbacks to 0.

>>714407497
You are going to burn out hard if you back-to-back them. Much of the mainline series is just barely tolerable, 4 and 5 in particular are bloatlord games where they decided more=good.

>>714408117
I should’ve prefaced that only Kiwami 1 and Kiwami 2 were remade, since they were PS2 games. Kiwami 1 uses the Yakuza 0 system, and Kiwami 2 uses the Yakuza 6 system.
Yakuza 3, 4, and 5 are remastered PS5 games, and you’ll find them under the Yakuza remastered bundle. Going from Kiwami 2 to Yakuza 3 will be your biggest hurdle, but you’ll get used to it and enjoy it, jank and all.

>>714408371
I felt the burnout in 4, particularly. Being just Kamurocho as the main hub was too boring. Controlling new characters was fun, but upgrading the 4 of them from Lv.1 was not.

>>714409258
dude, Yakuza 4 has the best level up system. Just doing each character’s substories will fully level them.
Saejima’s prison escape is still genuine ass, tho, there’s no defending that.

>>714381713
>7G should've just been a literal DLC for 7.
It actually was supposed to be before deciding to make it a separate game. It was also developed in like 8 months, so even with heavy resource reusing that rgg is known for it's quite an accomplishment to have the game be what it is. It's also why the english dub came out a few months after the game released. (source: I heard it somewhere, can't be fucked to fact check)

>>714398334
If you also hated 7 and wanted its story to suck less, yes.. Although you might as well watch it on youtube, the story is the only good part of 7G

>>714401406
The school bits make it worse. School drama has no place in a mature game for mature gamers such as myself.

>>714410985
>The school bits make it worse
The school stories can be ignored mostly, although it's basically a whole second storyline.

>>714411247
You'll still have to deal with school drama in the main quest, there's no way around it. Hospital drama in J1 was way better. I expected the sequel to go into some kind of conspiracy revolving around some futuristic scientific development and instead I got Persona light

>>714411490
>Persona light
in Persona, you have teenagers with magical powers vs meanie stinky adults who don’t understand them and get in their way, and then said teenagers save society or the world from a convoluted big bad.
in Lost Judgment, you get a student hold a very toxic and big grudge against a few handful of students because they thought she sucked as a committee leader, and has turned to a notorious gun trafficker for funds and help, and it takes an adult to solve everything.
the former is ridiculous as fuck, the latter is far-fetched but still grounded

>>714410886
LaD's story is fine, great even. It's the turn-based combat that is bad.
>you just dislike turn-based RPGs
My favorite genre, the one in LaD is just too mediocre. Admitedly, it's their first attempt.

>>714411958
Both are gay ass school drama that a mature gamer such as myself doesn't want to engage with in a mature game series such as this

>>714412215
The combat is much improved in 8, but the plot is pants on head retarded, even for Yakuza standards.

>>714412215
It's fine for newfags but the way they handled the dissolution of Tojo/Omi was horrible, that's what 7G fixes. Newfags didn't care about that, they didn't even know what that means

>>714412291
Cry about it

>>714412415
Your webm is fine because that's just normal silly Yakuza shit. School DRAMA is not fine because I'm not 15 and therefore don't give a slightest fuck about it. That's why I don't play Persona, I'm not 15

>>714412638
Persona is meant for failed normalfag adults who didn't experience high school. As the other Anon said, this is not kids teaming up to take down adults, it's adults fixing sketchy shit teenagers are doing with the help of adult criminals

>>714398334
Gaiden salvages 7's dogshit story somewhat, so if you got tricked into playing 7 you may as well play gaiden as well. For your own good pretend 8 doesn't exist

>>714412765
I can only tolerate schools in fanservice or comedy context. I just don't care if kids are bullied and pissed on, it just doesn't do anything for me. Piss on an adult, then you have my attention.

>>714412330
>>714412848
I heard about how bad IW's story is. They really don't know how to build stories in the long term.

>>714370715 (OP)
Do I play this or 0 when the time comes? (I am at the end of 4 atm).

>>714398334
Gaiden is barely relevant to IW, just saying. IW ignores most of it, it's so retarded.

>>714413451
>They really don't know how to build stories in the long term
Yokoyama proudly admits to the biggest amateur writers mistake: writing a story without an ending in mind.

>>714374106
Nigger, even the japs watch OUR content dubbed in THEIR language.

>>714413738
I usually don't care about playing games dubbed, but I won't do it with Yakuza simply because I started in the PS3 era and got used to everybody speaking Japanese. It'd be weird to switch now and not have the voices I associate with the characters.

>>714413551
original 0, this isn’t worth $50

>>714413638
because Gaiden was written after Infinite Wealth, hence why Kiryu goes around introducing himself with his birth name instead of using his designated agent name, and why the Daidoji are incompetent buffoons and Hanawa doesn’t know how to fight.

>>714413451
Since always, honestly. First title was a standalone game and they killed 95% of important characters, thus Kazama's CIA brother in 3. Games kept selling, so they kept making.
No long term planning, tho.

>>714408035
>Developer's intended vision
>Chronological order

RELEASE ORDER YOU RETARD

>>714413714
This explains 5's plot perfectly.

>>714405441
Because defending poor chinks from the big bad yakuza is real yakuza shit.

>>714414957
If RGG wanted people to play in release order, they wouldn’t have made Kiwami 1 + 2 and ported the Japan-exclusive Wii U HD remasters to modern consoles & pc instead, you double retard.

>>714416117
did you play the game, or did your racism melt your brain into goo?

>>714408035
After Yak 7. Judgment spoils the yakuza being disbanded.

>>714412394
How does 7G "fix" it. It's still exactly the same shit, just Kiryu has an extra fight to clean up everything that Ichiban didn't know about.

>>714414272
Wow. That's retarded.

>>714370715 (OP)
Can you use gyro or the mousecontrol scheme during the highway shooting section? When I played on PC that shit was so bad with a controller.

>>714417985
Nah, Lost Judgment spoils it 10 minutes into the game. Judgment acts like the Tojo Clan is running normally, when in reality, Kamurocho became an Omi town by 2017, as per Yakuza 7.

>>714418721
No, you still have to use the controller.

>>714385714
That's a piss easy Platinum though. Beating 4 or 5 casually is less effort.

>>714393985
I literally only played that subbed for Majima. If it was someone else then I'd have played dubbed.

>>714414272
Yup, Gaiden's will never be relevant anyway even if they aren't dumb so treat them as non-canon.

>>714419414
Mercer isn't that bad

>>714419414
yeah, I get that sentiment. I sometimes miss hearing hidenari ugaki as Majima, but the problem is that the dub cast for literally every other character (except maybe Saejima) is better than sub. Nonetheless, Matt Mercer is very good as Majima, and his karaoke songs are amazing.

Does Pirate improve 8?

>>714420606
No, pirates is just a silly pirate adventure that will be referenced even less then TMWEHS. It's a fun game but it's very aware of the fact that it's effectively non-canon.

>>714420779
Damn, lol.
Do you think Daidoiji will be relevant in future games? It seems that the next mainline games will expand more and more outside Japan.

>>714420606
It gives more backstory to Bryce for why he's so old, yet still alive and well. And might setup something in the future to keep characters from aging too much, if they want to go that route.

>>714417985
>>714418943
It's mimicking real life, the old school yakuza are being replaced by edgier gangs like the one you fought in LJ
Yakuza's always been like that, all the dopey plots about real estate development and shady police corruption is loosely based on real shit

>>714413738
So? Just because japs are retarded doesn't mean that I have to be retarded too.

>>714422063
RGG is going to make a world where Kiryu lives forever!

>>714420606
it's a decent little romp but don't pay more than like $30-40 for it

Heard some people saying Ichiban is getting too old to be a protag and the next game is probably his last, but there's nothing wrong with a gray haired protag. Some competitive fighters reached 70.

>>714419264
It may be easy but it still requires you to waste time doing tedious bullshit

>>714424776
>Ichiban is getting too old
majima is literally 60 in Pirate Yakuza and looks younger than ever

>>714418425
The biggest problem was how easily Tojo/Omi disbanded. They barely put up a fight, rolled over and fucking died. In 7G they show that the whole thing was orchestrated to minimize resistance (by eliminating those who would oppose it) and yet a strong faction still rose up to oppose it. Tojo still dies, for the same reason, but it doesn't die without a fight like a little bitch.

>>714370715 (OP)
>No Kiwami style switching
literally the ONLY thing this remaster needed and they didn't do it.

>>714370715 (OP)
>most of the new cutscenes are actually very good
>except the makoto and lee stuff
thats like 50% of the new cutscenes nigger.

>>714427489
No you fucking illiterate moron, just the ONE new scene where Lee’s death gets retconned and Majima tells Lee’s friend (because Lee’s VA passed away) that he’ll fix Makoto’s watch.

>>714424776
The problem with Ichiban is that he was specifically made to take Kiryu’s mantle, part because Kiryu went through so much, part because he’s getting older. He’s not even a decade younger, the age difference is only at 9 years.
Then, RGG decided this was silly, so they made Ichiban’s age not matter at all and made 60 year old Majima the protagonist of the pirate gaiden game. It’s so ridiculous that Majima calls a 64 year old retiree an “old timer” in english, and “ossan” in japanese, in the substory in which the retiree wants to live his childhood dream of being a pirate.
Ichiban could’ve totally been a generation younger than Kiryu, it would change nothing, but no one will call him “ossan”.

>>714421258
Majima’s Pirate game ended with a “To Be Continued”, which is very strange.

>>714420606
8G is essentially just a playable pirate movie with an extremely basic treasure hunting story. Peter Pan has more in-depth treasure hunting than it for example. It shows the consequences of the ending of 8 pretty heavily and establishes stuff related to a specific character from 8, but otherwise the majority of the stuff you'd care about is specifically left to the epilogue.

Hawaii is the exact same and virtually nothing has changed outside of adding grappling hooks to a select few buildings.
Ship content is worse than any AC game or Skull and Bones but better than KH3 and incentivizes rushing the boss ship and ignoring everyone else.
Combat is the easiest it ever has been in the series and you have to ignore attack upgrades even on Professional to add any sort of difficulty. Like, you're dealing the equivalent of grabbing people or dropkicking them in 6 on most attacks. Mad Dog is also a terrible style and it's so barebones compared to Sea Dog.
Substories are great, probably its best part.

>>714421258
>Do you think Daidoiji will be relevant in future games?
They straight up introduced Ogikubo's granddaughter in 7G for no reason and two new "major" Daidoji characters in the monk and the old man along with Shishido and Nishitani III being agents of them which 7G's ending left hanging since they weren't in 8 at all. So yes, there is no chance they just disappear after 8's ending.

>>714429118
>for no reason
it's because she's hot

>>714420779
>it's very aware of the fact that it's effectively non-canon

8Pirate has made it canon that Kiryu is on his way out

>>714370715 (OP)
>Game key card
Fuck off Sega.

>>714429118
Pirate Majima is a big hit in the UK specifically because the pirate genre is dead, and no, Sea of Thieves doesn’t count since it’s a multiplayer. It fills the hole left behind by AC: Black Flag’s absence.

>>714430352
All 3rd party games are game key cards. Be glad it got a physical release at all. Kiwami was digital only unless you paid out the ass to Limited Run Games.

>>714429971
No really. Not sure why there's an implication that he's supposed to wither away. After the cancer treatment people tend to recover fully if everything went fine. Well maybe not fully but mostly.

>>714420779
>but it's very aware of the fact that it's effectively non-canon.
What are you talking about? It's 8G, it's canon. They outright consider Gaiden titles mainlines, Yokohama said this himself during the RGG Summit about 8G. Majima wasn't an unreliable narrator despite his amnesia, it's just that Ichiban didn't believe his stories despite Noah backing them up. Even the epilogue has Saejima directly acknowledge Majima's adventures happened and specifically mentions they didn't find an easy way to save Kiryu.

7G was written and finalized while they were in the middle of making 8 which is likely why none of it really works together and why Hanawa is out of character. We have to wait until 9 to actually see if 7G has any relevance since so much was set up in it.

>>714430507
>All 3rd party games are game key cards.
Most*. Daemon x Machina and Cyberpunk aren't along with one other game, and it's been shown that they GKCs are causing less sales of physical games overall because no one wants them so it's hopefully going to go away very soon because it's not a true physical copy.
>unless you paid out the ass to Limited Run Games.
LRG's price for K1 was like $10 more than digital which is fairly reasonable.

>>714430352
>death stranding 2 ps5 is fully playable without ever going online
>the whole of the shitch's library isn't
nintendo once again at the forefront of making video games worse.

>>714430507
>Be glad
Eat shit.

>>714431143
Be glad the Yakuza games are on Switch at all. If Nagoshi has his way it would never happen. He blacklisted Nintendo the moment they said Yakuza was too adult for the GameCube.

>>714431305
Avoiding the GameCube is smart. Avoiding the Switch is retarded. Sega should be grateful Switch users are even playing the gimped versions they've excreted. Not the other way around.

>>714431525
>gimped versions
How are they gimped? Kiwami is exactly like it was on the PS4 and 0 is expanded and has an entire multiplayer mode that isn't available on any other platform?

>>714431305
Huh? Yakuza was on Wii U.

>>714431305
>He blacklisted Nintendo the moment they said Yakuza was too adult for the GameCube
No?

>>714431639
No physical release. Have fun connecting to the internet to play your portable game.

>>714431639
K1's has worse LODs than any other version, has constant stutter, has regularly occurring frame drops that weren't even present on base PS4s, and if you play it on the Switch 2 specifically it now has full game crashes randomly. There was a patch to address some performance issues a month or two after launch but it still has them regularly.

The only issue I recall seeing with 0 DC are LOD issues and pop-in that imply it's based off the PS3 version instead of the PS4 one. Other than that it's just that you can't physically own the game which is extremely stupid because Sega cheaped out.

>>714431639
>exactly like it was on the PS4
Eat shit and die.

>>714378960
Best gameplay in the series, least important main story.

>>714424952
I don't understand this perspective. There was already huge brawl over it in RG7. To me, Kiryu's little extra fight with Shishidou and a ragtag handful of other goons which you call "a strong faction" isn't actually that big of a deal. That gook running the casino on a boat wouldn't have done shit even if he had been around either. He was weak as fuck. The whole gaiden is pointless if you ask me. Oh, kiryu is erand boy for Akame. And there's a couple extra fights you didn't know about. Like does it really matter and who fucking cares? It was definitely DLC tier.

>>714433404
7's dissolution was so slapped together I thought it was a schizo dream sequence by ichiban until the game was consistently serious that all this was real.
the gaiden story absolutely helps sell this concept and ultimately gives the tojo and omi a better sendoff than just a mosh pit of rank and file loses shitting their pants

>>714370715 (OP)
>The one outlier which shouldn’t have existed is the Lee death retcon
This better not be real. It feels like they want to make the Yakuza games into kids movies with all the fake out deaths they are having. Just let a character die for fucks sake, it not only can ruin their story(Like for Richardson), but also future characters stories because a player will care less about the impact thinking "Oh they probably will hand wave this death and say they survived it". Was there a huge amount of Lee fans that I don't know about that really were upset that he didn't survive?
>Majima saying he'll fix Makoto's watch
Ah, so it is meant for kids who can't understand the most basic progression of logic and need to be told things.

>>714434343
>This better not be real.
It's real, but they imply he's never going to be able to do anything again and is functionally stuck in a wheelchair. By the time any modern events happen he'd also be in his 90s so it's not like he can really show up.

>>714434343
Yokoyama will not rest until every dead character returns. Expect to see Rikiya and Shinjii in Yakuza 9, and then Nishki and Reina in Yakuza 10 and then Kamaza and Mine in Yakuza 11.

>>714434721
I figured he wouldn't show up in any future games (Not unless they add him in remakes of earlier games), but for me it feels just as ridiculous as the other characters surviving. Like I said, it takes away the punch of character deaths. Hell, him not showing up just makes him surviving even more unnecessary. Let the criminal underworld be brutal. I guess I should be glad it wasn't Sagawa. Reversing that would just cement that all non-throwaway characters are effectively immortal in my mind.

>>714431918
Iirc it flopped hard and he got mad

>>714370715 (OP)
>No gameplay updates
The ONE thing that might have convinced me to bother with this.

>>714375552
>Yakuza 0
>keeps reviving characters that should be dead

I'm pretty sure everyone who dies stays dead. Y0's a prequel. None of the characters that debut in it really need to survive to begin with. It's LATER games that keep reviving dead characters, mainly starting from 7.

>>714428508
>It’s so ridiculous that Majima calls a 64 year old retiree an “old timer” in english, and “ossan” in japanese, in the substory in which the retiree wants to live his childhood dream of being a pirate.
Old people always whine about other people being old because they go "I don't look THAT old" even if they do. But Majima does not look 60 regardless so

>>714435569
I actually don't understand why they keep bringing back certain characters. It's not like anyone was hoping for Kashiwagi's return.

>>714436958
My guess is someone on the team really liked revisiting kashiwagi for Y0 and the idea to bring him back bubbled up from there
Just like most things in Y0. RGG thinks the way to get Y0 sales numbers again is to literally wholesale bring back things from it for no reason

>>714437318
Yeah but there's also Lau Ka Long and what's-his-name from Y3. None of these are particularly popular characters.

You know who they SHOULD bring back? How about one of the many characters who AREN'T fucking dead and are probably more popular than literally any of these nobodies. I mean, okay, maybe Kashiwagi isn't a "nobody" but who the fuck gives a shit about Kashiwagi? Dude did pretty much nothing for three games. The only thing he did in Y0 was get his ass kicked by Majima.

>>714437662
lmfao

If I had to guess, the reason these characters are chosen for revival is precisely due to the lack of impact. Even though characters like Nishiki and Mine back to life despite their greater popularity because of what their deaths mean to the endings of their respective games. Nishiki's death in particular is one of the defining pillars of Kiryu's character, so you can't bring him back without completely cheapening the entire series.

Looking at it like that, what does that say about Kashiwagi and Lau Ka Long? The answer: they don't matter. Their deaths weren't especially meaningful and their existences are so minor that bringing them back to life creates minimal impact. The irony is that by saying they're worth bringing back, it's the same as saying they're not worth much at all.

>>714370715 (OP)
>director's cut
>director hasn't been with the company for years
Huh?