Thread 714387024

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Yeah, you're right, that's not a valid argument. The characters believe that because the writers want them to believe that.
However, this "issue" is a mountain out of a molehill. Other than like Life is Strange, you exaggerate everything because you are very sensitive to it due to your radicalization.

the story, characters, and gaym just suck then, I guess

>Game takes place in the middle ages
>Everyone acts like modern day San Fransisco urbanites
>"It has to reflect the world we live in, you know?"

>>714387024 (OP)
That's a valid argument but the execution is what decides whether it's good or not. Most fantasy worlds don't dive into gender studies so trying to make a big deal out of pronouns and being non binary feels out of touch and more of a 4th wall break

>>714388973
>guys I know that the characters act like bigoted chuds but you have to understand it's just reflective of attitudes when they were alive, you should see past that and like them anyway like I do
>EW a modern day character who doesn't hate blacks or gays?! I HATE THEM

>>714387882
>you're radicalized
>but the writers who spend 10 hours on day on bluesky aren't
Interesting

>>714387024 (OP)
I say and look this

>>714387882
>You're just noticing it more
Oh okay, so Devs will take note of the general public being more aware of their horseshit and roll it back, right?
Right?

>>714389486
>>EW a modern day character who doesn't hate blacks or gays
Anon this is going to be a bit of a shock to you, but people are less accepting of faggotry today than they were 30 years ago.

>>714388973
>no you see it HAS to show how the world was back then
>ignore that every other element of the games world is fictional

>>714387024 (OP)
Why would Adam Friedland say this

>>714389912
Really?

>>714390216
>a homosexual is impossible to exist in the past like a BMW existing in a fantasy setting

>>714389654
Art should be an extension of its creator and not something that is done cynically to appeal to someone else. I just fundamentally disagree with your implication here.
I think people should make the games they want to make, chuds included. The world needs more guys like Styg.

>>714390385
>2019
gee, I wonder if there have been a bunch of high profile events swaying and polarising the public on the issue since then

>>714387024 (OP)
Imagine being so buttblasted you make this

>>714387024 (OP)
>Story
From Origins to this. What the fuck happened to the story?

>>714390464
>Existing
No
>Not being drawn and quartered for being a faggot
Yes

>>714390563
>Chuds
>Making games
LMAAAAAAAO

There's a reason why they want AI to evolve so that it can do everything for them, lil bro

>>714387882
can you explain what's so exaggerated and radical about this image to a person without schizophrenia?

>>714390967
I'm a chud and I have no interest in using AI to make games.

>>714389912
>but people are less accepting of faggotry today than they were 30 years ago.

>>714390563
Oh yeah, I'm sure the product made by the multibillion company is just reeking of artistic integrity.

>>714390967
But at least you're not as retarded as this lil fag here

>>714390563
The anti-woke types have been saying that they would start making their own games for over a decade now

Whatever happened to comicgate? Did those take off?

>>714390610
Well, this graph goes up to 2024.

>>714390967
Literally every good game ever made was made by chuds. Leftists egos are too high to make anything good. They also have no sensibility to anything so they just copy paste arguments they had on twitter in the game because they only care about their "message" and nothing else.

>>714391424
Where is the 'chud 'undertale'?

>>714391293
Yeah, now watch as you ask if they support the LGBT movement and watch as it nosedives.

>>714391270
>Implication via le reaction image

>>714391285
>Oh yeah, I'm sure the product made by the multibillion company is just reeking of artistic integrity.
Ghost of Tsushima and Death Stranding (Is this shit considered woke by the anti-wokes? I can't keep track) are definitely artistic integrity types of games. Then you get into indies, where it's hard to find a game that isn't obviously heavily influenced by the developers, such as Clair Obscur, Celeste, Hollow Knight, so on and so forth.

So, what are you complaining about? Is this still about Assassin's Creed? Sports games? EAslop? Call of Duty?

>>714391519
Incels are too retarded to make videogames

>>714391519
That's called Undertale.
>b-but
Keep crying.

>>714391932
Undyne never said that....

>>714389912
>>714390610
>>714391683
Anon, there isn't an easy way to say this, but you urgently need shock therapy to have a modicum of connection with reality

>>714391710
Oh yeah, another one. Intergalactic. The bald black woman game. That game is 100% a product of the autistic fart-huffer behind it. It appeals exactly to all his nostalgias and values.

So, yeah, I don't know what you're even trying to argue here.

>>714391424
Leftist art is literally made for the racists and bigots to teach them some kind of lesson. That's why get woke go broke is a thing, cause progressives see this stuff as medicine for the sick instead of art or entertainment. So they think "I'm already not racist so I don't need to buy this". And it ends up appealing to no one.

"Chuds" make games like Sifu, Brigador and Factorio where they don't shovel anti-woke grievance slop into their essence

>>714391286
you act as if you need to be an "anti-woke" type to be a chud
just doing the okay sign with your hand makes you turn into an evil chud

>>714392259
Sifu is 'revenge' bad asian-a-boo wank from Cali. Even their new game 'En Garde' would fit your bill of woke.

>>714392259
I love Sifu, but it has very heavy handed morals about revenge. It just doesn't bother you as much cause you agree with it or at least don't vehemently disagree with it like you do with some tranny flag hidden somewhere in the game.

Still, Sifu is kino, so yeah, more games like Sifu should get made, by a more diverse industry. Not diversity of only race and ethnicity, but of viewpoints too. Gamers only benefit from it.

>>714392591
And the dev is a chud
That's the difference between the two sides. Domina-tier spergs would be nuked on sight on the right, but leftists protect them into AAA grifterhood

>>714391710
>>714392032
Before anything:
>Implying it's difficult to tell whether something is or isn't woke garbage
Good job trying to slide that in there, faggot.

>Death Stranding
>Artistic integrity
Yes the Monster Cans really sold me on Kojimbos vision.
>GoT
No comment
>Intergalactic
Yeah, the company that basically printed Sony money thanks to TLoU gets more leeway artistically, because the whole thing is being sold as another "gem" from the mind of Druckman.
Personally, I hope when it sells like dogshit compared to their last games he finally gets the boot.
>Indietrash
Now what the fuck point are you making?

>>714392848
>Slocap
>French
>"""CHUD"""
Your bahman combat is made by gay frogs and most likely muslims.

>>714393143
>Indies BAD
>I only play AAASLOP
lmao so these are the people crying about wokeness

Alright, knock yourself out. Keep crying.

>>714388973
>Chuds think the middle ages had elves and magic and shit

imagine having such a pathetic and uninteresting life that you come to /v/ to chat about politics

>>714393402
yeah, this is the coombait board, fuck off politictards

>>714393293
>>Indies BAD
The overwhelming majority are complete trash, yes.
You have Gems like FTL, Binding of Isaac, Star Sector, Rimworld to name a few, but the VAST majority are complete dogshit, so fuck off.

>only play AAASLOP
No, the point is that you started listing them when they're not relevant to the discussion.

Its a big coincidence that every character agrees with the writer's opinions that all seem to be mirror the current woke agenda. A good writer should be able to make a sympathetic protagonist that holds views that differ from their own, for instance a white nationalist vigilante hero fighting black crime or the story of a camp guard in WW2 germany just doing what he believes is right

>>714393402
Imagine being so pathetic and uninteresting you start a movement specifically to inject politics into games, and make the discourse around games political, and then act surprised when people hate you for it.

>>714394152
You have to understand that for these people, their beliefs are literally a religion. Do you think an overwhelmingly Christian nation would EVER write a Satanist to be anything other than an objectively evil baby killing cannibal? This is how they view anyone that has even the slightest difference of opinion to them. You can't write them to be in any way sympathetic because they don't view people that think differently than them as human beings. They are the one true humans fighting for the objective moral good, why would they want to display anyone that disagrees with them as anything other than objective evil?

>>714387882
floppy bippy

>>714394152
Name a character in media that you like despite holding political beliefs opposite to yours. Like, for example (I'm assuming this so if it's not true I apologize) a character in media who fully supports trans rights or is trans themselves.

>>714394750
that's kind of a funny projection from the guy whose side is a literal cult

>>714387024 (OP)
It's almost like people in different situations tend to believe in different things.
You poltards are worryingly stupid.

>>714387024 (OP)
Adding anything from the internet on the game is retarded.
People don't even know the weirdass language of your small internet bubble.

Another low-effort political shitflinging thread
Does anyone else have anti-woke fatigue?

>>714395080
Those look like the rules of any leftoid filled place

>>714391293
I think same sex marriage should be enforced for all homossexuals, and cheating punished with a heavy fine.

>>714390464
yes

>>714395220
Yeah, I'm tired of anti-woke guys as well.

>>714395264
>Number 2
>>714395331

>>714387024 (OP)
The problem is always Death of the Author.

>>714395404
>Number 2
Yeah, specially that.

>>714394946
The first thing that sprang to mind is something from the Culture series of sci-fi stories but Iain M Banks. In that far future society, people are able to completely biologically change from male to female and back again at any time. There's a couple who start as both female, but each one in turn becomes male to impregnant the other and then eventually they are both female again and pregnant which I thought was a cool idea. And I am generally against trans as it is these days, the trans movement as it were. Also despite me being generally against AI replacement of humans as it is in the world these days, its one of the few settings with a positive view of AI, with them being considered sentient individuals with a benevelont stewardship relationship with humanity

>>714393372
yeah, anon: what the middle age actually had was queer acceptance
that's not even more outlandish than elves and magic

>>714387882
Social media twist people's sense of reality. Like that one statistic where it says that 90% of tweets comes from only 3% of active twitter users.

>>714395569
>Only White people can do this
>We do NOT have a saviour complex

>>714390385
>>714391270
>>714392018
just because the dwindling population trannies and their supporters with ssri-soaked brains are more accepting of child rape, the growing normie sphere which is becoming aware that THIS is what homosexuality entails is revolted by it

>>714395080
My point exactly. >>714394152 Take note, this guy has absolutely no idea what any of my beliefs are, just assumed something about me because I stated something that is not in 100% total lockstep with one side. This is a tactic to dehumanize anyone you're talking to that doesn't completely and utterly agree with you and he proved me right immediately. No attempt to understand where someone else is coming from, immediate attempt to demonize so that he can take comfort in himself that he is good and I am evil.

>>714390385
Now pull up how many of these people who said "yes" work for a company that would fire you if you said "no"
Theres literally no way to measure this shit anymore. Its pretty much "Kim Jong Un wins with 100% of the votes" type of shit nowadays, corpos have eyes on everything

>>714395569
Wonder what their black co-workers would think about this

>>714387882
>your radicalization
Babby's first gaslight. A lot of republicans today were democrats in the 80's and 90's politically speaking, and the current american president fits that bill 100%. You're up up and away into kookland but can't see it because your social media is full of people like you. 4chan is probably the only place where you find political opinions you disagree with.

>>714387024 (OP)
>the story explains why the characters believe those things
name 5 games
and explain to tell me: why is it always a liberal bias?

>>714396206
>Blacks
>Think

>>714396513
Because liberals have a more coherent surface level worldview, and not only is it the dominant worldview, it's especially biased in the arts and software engineering, of which games play a huge role.

>>714396512
>A lot of republicans today were democrats in the 80's and 90's politically speaking
I know, anon, that's why I said you got radicalized.

Speaking about /v/ in specific, The Walking Dead from 2012 is the clearest sign to me. That game was just before the line. If it had come out 3 years later, it'd have been shitposted to death for being woke.

And yeah, I've had this discussion many times before, there's always some reason on why it's le different. You don't fool me, though. I'll leave it at that.

>>714396851
>coherent surface level worldview
Like wanting Israel to be bombed but also anyone who hates jews to die?

>>714390748
the past wasnt entirely controlled by abrahamics anon...

>>714396120
If that's the case, then there's no way for anon to authoritatively state that people are less accepting of gay people now than 30 years ago.

>>714397075
That's also true

>>714396973
That is only incoherent if you think Zionism = Judaism or that Israel is the exclusive home of Jews.

>>714397040
Name a culture and I'll find a quote of them describing fags (ESPECIALLY the "takers") as either weak, effeminate, evil, or some other negative nomenclature.

>>714391424
name 5
no minecraft allowed

>>714397246
Jackie Chan: Stuntmaster
Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu
Jackie Chan: The Kung-Fu Master
Jackie Chan in Fists of Fire
Jackie Chan Adventures: Legend of the Dark Hand

>>714393372
Hi anon, where are the middle ages games with elves and magic? Cause I'd love to play that but right now we only seem to have middle ages games with fags and trannies.

>>714396956
Yeah telltale is woke shit
What's your point?

>>714397384
you win
i kneel chud-sama

>>714396956
>Apparently got told why it isn't (it isn't, I could even give examples of what would've been changed compares to then and now)
>Refuses to accept any explanation, because you aren't filled (i.e, you don't accept the explanations because it's inconvenient for your own worldview)
Choke on a cock, faggot.

>>714387024 (OP)
>>714387882
part of storytelling is having characters that act logically and maintain suspension of disbelief. having hypercompetent nogs because some dumb boomer manager said he needed an affirmative action character to fill a DEI checkbox destroys all immersion

>>714396956
>that's why I said you got radicalized.
I'd consider it an "awakening" of sorts, you can call it "woke". And we all have you and people like you to sincerely thank for that. Without leftists pushing for this shit, white racial consciousness would have been a pipe dream. Robin DiAngelo, and people like her have been crucial for this.
Now you sort of want to go back to the 90's "neutrality" but after 25 years of shit like picrelated, it is late. In hindsight, it was probably inevitable considering the zeal with which you've pushed and pushed for it. The thing is, waking up to this diversity shit going all the way back to the 70's only reinforces the current "radicalization" as you've put it, because you can look back and see for how long you've been poisoned. It's high time for whitey to become just as nepotistic as jews, arabs and blacks are. It's honestly a bright future going forward.

>>714389535
goy, for the love of Y-H-W-H, when will you stop being anti-semetic?

>>714387024 (OP)
haha that pic is just like christcucks refusing to acknowledge their fairy tales were all written by jews, while defending their religion as antisemitic because it says so in the jew written book

>>714394750
>>714396062
I used to be friends with a leftist online. It was definitely an eye opening experience in regards to how leftists see the world. Some of his greatest hits were announcing that he didn't need to rationally justify his world view and on another occasion telling me that I was a leftist too despite that very obviously not being the case (ie: my gun stance is "recreational nuclear bombs"), I was just controlled by propaganda. They really can't concieve of a good person disagreeing with them. He saw that I wasn't a baby eating monster and determined that I must be leftist in that case. Whatever I said about any topic was completely irrelevant because then he'd have to contend with somebody disagreeing with him and not being an avatar of evil. We eventually parted ways because of on top of him being an abrasive, argumentative shit who says shit to his friends I wouldn't even say to my enemies, he got outed for literal discord grooming a kid lmao

>>714395493
>crime in progress
it's funny every time

>>714398749
I still have a leftoid friend. Spent too much time on reddit. Had an actual mental breakdown when Trump won this last time. As in was looking up nearby nuclear strike targets because she was convinced Trump was going to let Russia nuke lefty US cities. I thought it was a joke at first. Just the most insane shit from someone who otherwise seemed normal. Reddit; not even once.

>>714395493
>crime in progress

>>714399657
>she was convinced Trump was going to let Russia nuke lefty US cities
She has some good ideas

>>714391995
Flowey says it in the homocide route

>>714387024 (OP)
Stop spastically throwing shit at the wall and just give the toys back. You're being obnoxious.

>>714390967
>If you're not explicitly anti-racist, then you are a racist. If you're not explicitly progressive, then you are a chud
Every game ever made up until about 2016 is a chud game.

>>714398749
Yeah this is why I don't even bother arguing politics or even talking about contemporary events with leftists. They don't argue in good faith, they're not interested in the truth or learning, and can't even so much as entertain the idea that their beliefs might be wrong.

>>714399929
>Flowey "MONSTERS TONGUE MY ANUS" the Flower

>>714387024 (OP)
>the story explain why a character is a rapist
>the story explain why a character deny the holocaust
>the story explain why a character actively try to purge niggers
>the story explain why a character believe Israel should disappear from the map
You might be on to something.

>>714401678
>story explains why the villain is an asshole
>the explanation is, they were always an asshole
Keep doing this, sometimes an innately shitty person is more entertaining than a 'relatable' fall from grace.

>>714397579
The point is that /v/ doesn't agree with that to this day because The Walking Dead Season 1 was grandfathered in before you got radicalized, which is why if you try to spout that bullshit for too long you'll get accused of falseflagging. Same for if you try to say that Half Life 2 is woke, for example. Simply put, you're too chud for the /v/ chuds. You got radicalized too early.

>>714398156
The other people that replied to me were actually honest. You're still trying to pretend there's a difference. Grim.
It's so weird how Sean Vanaman wrote a story that didn't strike you as woke and then, a mere 4 years later, not even in time for Trump to get elected, he wrote Firewatch, which was of course le woke. So weird how that happened. Not you getting radicalized, of course. Every writer, every developer, everyone got mindbroken and became your enemy at the same time. You didn't change. It was everyone else.

>>714398542
So you got radicalized. Cool. The post I made at the very start of this thread stands, then.

>>714402989
>So weird how that happened. Not you getting radicalized, of course. Every writer, every developer, everyone got mindbroken and became your enemy at the same time. You didn't change. It was everyone else.

It was literally visible in real time. Go watch Tim Schafer play his games from 20 years ago and how much he "cringes" at his old "problematic" writing.

>>714403229
Except it wasn't from the 90s to the 2000s we're talking about, dishonest faggot. I explicitly brought up The Walking Dead and Firewatch because it was from 2012 to 2016. Again, the two other anons that replied to me were actually honest that they got radicalized. You're getting outvoted by your own pals. Keep pretending if you wish, though, it makes you look worse.

>>714395636
That isn't the same because they have the technology to fully switch sex. People object to crude procedures that turn you (also possibly a groomed minor) into a freak followed by forcing people to play pretend.
Although, even that technology would probably be hated if it existed in reality, after a flood of perverts genemodded themselves into little girls and tried to hang out with real ones and and groom them into weird fetishes
The benefit of writing a book is that you can focus on the acceptable cases and just not write the horrendous shit that real humans would actually do and in-universe, I think it's likely that the Minds heavily genetically and socially engineer the "humans" to be good citizens which is the only way that society would work in the first place

>>714403391
>the 90s to the 2000s we're talking about, dishonest faggot
>aging retard doesn't even know how long ago 20 years was

>>714402989
>People
Person. Singular. And I think he's wrong. The other was entirely independent of your shit take.

>he wrote Firewatch, which was of course le woke
Actually I didn't give two shits about it then or now. As I have no knowledge of the game beyond "it takes place in a park, and you're a ranger", I can neither confirm nor deny your utterly baseless assumptions about my beliefs.

>Every writer, every developer, everyone got mindbroken and became your enemy
Strawman. I believe there are vested interests pushing this garbage, as well as hyper political activist types joining in said push.
Whatever the reason exactly, its hard not to notice a trend of games becoming increasingly woke...well, unless you're just blissfully ignorant about the world prior to around, 2016? Yeah, we'll stick with that date.

You're convincing no one, faggot.

>>714387024 (OP)
Is that Adam Freed-land, the famous gay pro-Zionist podcaster?

>>714404246
>I believe there are vested interests pushing this garbage
Why do you refuse to accept game developers are mainly left-leaning? It's like trying to refuse to accept that the average speedrunner is a tranny or tranny accepter. You're just bound to keep switching boogeymans. USAID is dead now. Are you gonna keep crying about Blackrock? What when Blackrock dies and developers don't magically turn right-wing? Sucks to be you, I guess.

>>714387024 (OP)
It's funny that were 100+ posts in and nobody has named a single example of this happening.

>>714404464
>Why do you refuse to accept game developers are mainly left-leaning?
If you can quote where I said that they weren't, go ahead.

>What when Blackrock dies and developers don't magically turn right-wing?
Now you're just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

>>714405010
Hardspace Shipbresker.

>>714405010
>>714375051

RDR 2 proves GWGB isn't real

>>714405254
>If you can quote where I said that they weren't, go ahead.
So why would there need to be a vested interest for developers to make games that speak to them as people? Do you not understand how art works?

Kojima is a Japanese man born in the 60s. He cared a lot about nukes. As a result, the MG and MGS games all speak to nukes and nuclear deterrence to some extent. There was no need for a vested anti-nuke interest. It was who he was to begin with. Likewise, literal trannies are probably gonna have that part of their identity translated into the games they make in one way or another. If you agree that the average game developer is left-leaning, why are you crying about vested interests?

>>714405457
BG3 proves GWGB isn't real

>>714404464
Feel better now about all the layoffs and woke game cancellations? It won't last though because we both know you people can't help yourself and there will be even more yet to come. Shrinking into irrelevancy, a small woke corner in a thriving global gaming industry.

>>714405804
>all the layoffs
Have you bothered checking the studios that got laid off?

>>714405457
RDR2 doesn't even have any LGBT content. It's "woke" by the standards of like...1920. Your mind has been broken by years of Arthur memes.

>>714395843
That's nice, anon, now put your mom or dad on the phone, please

>>714406336
nah rdr2 is definitely woke as fuck desu senpai
Look up its "elliptical politics"

>>714405659
>So why would there need to be a vested interest for developers to make games that speak to them as people?
Because they don't control the purse strings. Anything that isn't made solely by an independent developer is highly dependent on a larger corporate entity to fund them. Do you not understand how game creation is financed?

>I'm going to conflate "nukes bad" and "transfolx need rights chuddie" as equally respectable takes
>Not to mention it's just a red herring in the end

And I'm out anyway because I want to crash.

>>714406336
>He thinks arthurposting is just a silly maymay done for no rhyme and reason

>>714406623
>>I'm going to conflate "nukes bad" and "transfolx need rights chuddie" as equally respectable takes
That's not what I said at all, retard. But they are both takes born from the artists behind the games. Just because you respect one take less than the other doesn't mean that that take wasn't created from the same simple process of being a reflection of the author. God, you're stupid.

>>714406689
>Rockstar NEEDS to make every character hate niggers or the game is too political

>>714406019
Enormous broad audiences, unprecedented global success. That is the promise you made industry players all those years ago. And here we are today: looking at the smoldering ashes of once beloved entertainment franchises.

>>714407001
>le ebin black doctor that gets neglected by the low culture whites
>You can kill everyone but Indians
>You can be nice to everyone except the slave owner
Blow it out your ass. The game is woke.

>>714404464
>Why do you refuse to accept game developers are mainly left-leaning?
I haven't. I've come to accept that most people who make games are genuine fucking subhumans that believe completely retarded things. Sadly we can't just silence and deplatform these "people" like the smarter countries such as China does.

>>714407190
>replies with EVERYONE IN THE GAME DOESN'T HATE NIGGERS THOUGH IT'S WOKE IT'S WOKE

>>714406875
>That's not what I said at all
Then why are you pretending that accusations of games being more "woke" have no merit? If you can acknowledge that said groups WILL inject their garbage into their work, and have always done so and will always do so, then you've literally just been talking out of your ass the entire time.
>why are you still responding, I thought you were going to sleep :^)
Because I was finishing up with the other thread I was arguing in, when I noticed your faggot ass had replied all fucken ready.

>>714387882
>imo imo imo
It's common enough to be an issue and we may just finally be on the tail end of devs realizing people don't want to buy their product to be patronized. I genuinely believe the new DA game was received so poorly and was such a massive project that suits assumed would find success that it caused a shift away from this trend.

>You must be a chud
Whatever helps you sleep better at night retard.
>you just like it when your politics-
What even are "My politics" if not a list that reads like a rent free stereotype being described?
>You're some sort of phobic or bigot!
People like you make the biggest argument for me to become one.

>>714404284
It's from an advertisement for obamacare featuring a very smug looking democrat.

>>714395080
You're going to lose your free medical care lol
Get fucked

>>714387024 (OP)
>said by the same type of person who uses "the character has no agency" non-argument when he wants to complain about nudity/sexualization in videogames

>>714390967
ULTRAKILL, Abiotic Factor and various other games come straight from here, anon. Ironically enough when a chud makes a game the game seems to have fun and gameplay above all else.

>>714407457
>I'm totally sitting on the fence guys, don't you dare make me jump on the chud side by being so very woke!
why did you think this would fool anyone?

>>714407423
Games didn't get more woke in between 2012 and 2016. You got radicalized.

Or, to put it in perhaps terms that you will accept.

You got strong woman fatigue.
You got homo fatigue.
You got black fatigue.
You got anti-capitalism fatigue.
You got big environmentalism message fatigue.

You didn't really get tranny fatigue cause that was probably always a no-no to begin with, but that's it.

>>714407803
I don't give a shit beyond just wanting to play videogames. Game after game that had no reason to fail decided to fail because taxpayer incentives wanted them to shoehorn in lessons for racists and make the cast hold hands and sing by the campfire. I just wanted to play videogames and the fact so many people who otherwise don't have a horse in the race feel that way will piss you off endlessly, activist.

>>714407873
They quite literally were given taxpayer incentive from more than just the US but largely the US to inject talking points into their videogames under Obama, the king of drive-bys. Obama also terminated press honus to be factual.

>>714407956
>Game after game that had no reason to fail
Veilguard, Concord and Dustborn had no reasons to fail beside the fact they were woke. That's the narrative you're going with.

>>714387024 (OP)
Yeah, but the story is also dogshit.

>>714408092
Uh uh. So when more woke games get announced within the next decade, what's the new excuse gonna be?

>>714408152
None of these games were worse than a mid game.

Bad writing makes bad games worse because now this mid game is trying to treat you like you're 6 years old and watching a Saturday morning cartoon.

>>714408245
I don't think they will and if they do I don't care because I won't be buying or thinking of them until they puppet the corpse of a beloved IP again.

>>714408254
Babylon's Fall was mid. It flopped too. Being mid is more than good enough reason to gigaflop.

>>714408403
Another game I didn't hear of at all likely because it hit the ground marketing to Twitter FOMO

>>714408348
>I don't think they will
Good.
Anon, I hope that you remember you thought this. I hope you learn a lesson from this. I hope you internalize that you thought woke was finally over, and a decade from now you will finally accept that developers don't need vested interests to have their selves be reflected in the art they make. And that's a good thing.

>>714408605
I don't think it's over anon, I think it's growing increasingly untenable of a position and that it's ragebait days have sunsetted. It's on the slow 20 year fadeout as the initiatives are no longer taxpayer incentivized and the games seem to be a risk when not given guaranteed free money for including it.

Friendly reminder the EU and America paid to make games faker and gayer with taxpayer dime.

Left-wing people cannot argue in good faith, because they themselves don't actually believe the lies they spout

>>714390464
BMW is impossible to exist in a fantasy setting?

>>714390216
Here’s a better one

>games were always left wing!!!

Meanwhile the egregious "left wing" messages in games from before 2012:
>Post-WW2 American world policing has been a disaster
>corporate interests have corrupted many aspects of life and caused us to lose sight of our humanity
>we should improve society somewhat
>haha fags and trannies are funny
>dude weed should totally be legal man....
>the nazis were the bad guys!
>girls can be heroes too! just not on the boxart

>>714408605
NTA, but why does it make you feel glee and joy when subhumans make terrible dogshit filled with poisonous ideologies that shouldn't be tolerated nor respected? Are you a demon of some kind? Seriously. What's wrong with you?

>>714409080
Was nice when the political climate wasn't turned into a circus with legal permit from Obama wasn't it?

>>714409139
It makes me feel glee and joy that artists make the art they want to make and that reflects them and can't be bullied out of doing so.
I know you won't believe me, but back in 2012, I was making fun of Anita Sarkeesian crying about Hitman Absolution having sexy nuns and killable hookers. Because I fundamentally disagree with this idea of trying to police what other people make.
Now the anti-wokes are the ones in that position. And they have been doing that shit for quite a long time. I remember it as far back as Mafia 3 and Watch Dogs Legion.
If more anti-wokes were like Styg (or the Sifu devs, apparently) and just made their own games, every gamer would benefit from it. This crying and whining about games you don't like existing, on the other hand, is fucking pathetic.

>>714409080
Let’s not forget showing minorities as people and not fucking living saints.

>>714409450
>It makes me feel glee and joy that artists make the art they want to make and that reflects them and can't be bullied out of doing so
Yes I’m sure the consulting firms they hire to force this stuff definitely aren’t compromising anyone’s natural vision. Oh on an unrelated note here is what the protag to south of midnight looked like before SBI “convinced” the studio to hire them.

>>714396956
Why even use lukewarm consumerist TV-tie-in crap like The Walking Dead as an example when the same studio made Sam & Max and we can see quite clearly how the internal game dev climate has changed based on how much they had to censor for the recent "remaster"?

>>714409698
Actually they convinced Xbox to force the studio to hire them.

Very funny because it's yet another flop that led to this massive Xbox layoff.

>>714409698
You want to believe what you want to believe. Everyone is lying to you unless they tell you what you want to hear.

>>714409983
>Actually they convinced Xbox
Threatened, the word is threatened. They literally extort companies into hiring them. Their CEO admits as much.

>>714410079
More like I have working eyes and ears and am not a rabid ideologue.
https://x.com/gamesnosh/status/1764802262017183761?s=46&t=8ElYs2qvnzSJ2q9qup_UsQ

>>714409450
How do you feel about the release of Nekopara and Blue Archive on Steam?

>>714409450
So you are evil? Knew it. Also, It will always be good to "cry and whine" about objectively bad/wrong things. Bad things are as it suggests, BAD, and they should not be allowed to go on without derision. You will never make those rightful actions be seen as a bad thing. You know how you can prevent that? By not being a piece of shit, not having awful beliefs/ideologies, and not putting said beliefs/ideologies in a piece of media. It's that easy.

>>714410079
That's a completely different game, retard.

>>714410364
>Also, It will always be good to "cry and whine" about objectively bad/wrong things. Bad things are as it suggests, BAD, and they should not be allowed to go on without derision
Freedom of expression is GOOD and you're against it.

>>714410570
Can I portray MLK as white and Hitler as a misunderstood man who thought best for his people?

>>714410712
Yes

>>714409450
Modern games are enormous financial investments created by committee. You can call it "art" but it's more like old fashioned joint stock companies planning voyages with the potential to make or break the lives of thousands.

>>714409450
I feel nothing but glee when the very people you describe release their project anticipating overwhelming success when they've made a game for a very finite set of people.