Not only is he one of the best video game characters in recent memory, his death might just be the most shocking and emotional in all of video games. It's easily more impactful than Aeris' death in FF7

Something, something, for those who come after

shit game made for faggots

>sloppy seconds for those who cum after

>>714524085 (OP)
b8 used to be believable.

we don't need bait threads

>>714524085 (OP)
even the va doesn't give a fuck about him lmao

>>714524085 (OP)
the fall in quality, character-wise and voice acting-wise, from gustavo to verso is absolutely catastrophic

>>714525474
Most VAs don't give a damn about their roles and are only in it for the cheque.

>>714525303
/thread
pussy wanted to off himself during the intro. why would I care at all that this whiney faggot gets his wish later on?

>>714525538
cope, games ass.

>Verso is yet again a replacement for someone else
vravo binco

>>714525968
You are delusional if you think Troy Baker of whoever care in the slightest about playing stock anime protagonist number #139

>>714524085 (OP)
I really despise when game developers blatantly rip-off the likenesses of Hollywood celebrities for their videogame protagonists
Naughty Dog in particular are infamous for this

>>714524085 (OP)
he's supposed to mirror verso's death in "real life"
The wholesome chungus verso painting literally got ripped apart when his family invaded it, and it instantly became about grief and death.

>>714527164
who is that supposed to be? I don't see it

The creator of the game literally admitted that they tried to ape the emotional impact of Aerith's death.

>>714527607
Well props to them, because they did it way better.

>>714527607
Aerith is a whore, Gustave is a Chad

He wasn't around long enough to generate a connection with the player. they did it too early.

>>714524085 (OP)

It always irked me that that faggot that replaces him gets to clap cheeks while this guy doesnt

Astroturfed game.

>>714528284

Truth. Like she's as bad as Jada Smith because she kept cucking Cloud to a dead man in Zack. Shameless whore.

They tried to make her a goody good girl but it's obvious in the remakes shes a vapid slut

>>714524085 (OP)
Fans of this game are such fucking retards

>>714528518
This. Of course /v/ worships this cuck game

>>714524085 (OP)
>his death might just be the most shocking and emotional in all of video games.
The only way you could this this is if your standard is set by baby's first JRPG, Final Fant-
>It's easily more impactful than Aeris' death in FF7
Well there you go.

>>714524085 (OP)
Nothing about Gustave or any other character in e33 is remotely memorable or interesting. They are all bland, dull, mopey and forgettable.

>>714527607
You're have to be severely mentally retarded to play the game and not realize they were literally just trying to mash Final Fantasy, Persona and Elden Ring together with a French coat of paint.

>>714528668
Name one more emotionally impactful video game death.

>>714527726
>because they did it way better.
Every day I feel more and more out of touch with the retarded zoomer and jeet posters of today's 4chan.

>>714528518
i refuse to romance lune because of this

>>714528763
Name 10 JRPGs you've played that aren't a 3D FF game, Persona, or Pokemon.

>>714524085 (OP)
I wasn't really shocked by what happened because the game seemed set up for constant tragic things to happen. Especially with the way the scene itself plays out, where the screen starts fading to black multiple times with the ominous music to show that Renoir is near. It felt like death was pretty close and there was no way Maelle was gonna die that soon.

Honestly I think after playing so many games in the last 15 years that have miserable stories and miserable things happening to all the characters, his death was more of a "well that was expected." sort of deal. They even showed you how effortlessly Renoir fucked them up at the beginning. This was meant to be tragic and awful for everyone involved from the very beginning.

>>714528761
And they succeeded brilliantly, making a game that was better than all three.

>>714528946
>And they succeeded brilliantly
They made a game for people that say they like JRPGs but don't actually like JRPGs and want a very shallow experience that emulates JRPGs.

>>714528856
The only ones I've played which aren't those three are Panzer Dragoon Saga, Star ocean 3, and Xenogears.

>>714529013
>and want a very shallow experience that emulates JRPGs.
E33 has more depth than any Persona game.

>>714528518
>Gustave dies
>Chad shows up out of nowhere, slides into the group immediately and fucks your party members
Why didn't you faggots tell me this was NTR?

>lets stand here and throw rocks lol
>OH GOD DRAMATIC SLOW MOTION BLACK AND WHITE AHHH HE COMIN
>btw have you noticed how i dont have a huge skill tree? lmao
>AHHH MAELLE RUN ILL SAVE YOU!!!
>super dramatic drawn out final stand
>*dies, then all his abilities transfer to some other faggot who pops in outta nowhere*
Lmao... muh "absolute cinema" slop.

>>714524085 (OP)
I don't even like ff7 but nah. He gets instantly replaced by Verso. You don't get any new party members after Aerith (unless you didnt find the optional ones yet) so her loss is felt more.

>>714529278
>so her loss is felt more.
I disagree because even after her death, you still have two full parties full of people. In E33, your reserve is always one short, constantly reminding you that another person should be there.

>>714529278
This. I think Aeris' death has lost a lot of its impact due to it being ingrained in video game history now, but nothing really compares to experiencing it for the first time not knowing what's going to happen, or the effect it'd have on any time you spent levelling Aeris.

>>714529524
>you still have two full parties
should've been 3

>>714527164
that's a random sandfall dev

>>714528816
Look, I get that it was shocking at the time, but Aerith's death doesn't really hold up well today. Besides the graphics, She has like 10 whole seconds to move out of the way, but just stands there and lets Sephiroth kill her. Plus, the dialogue between Sephiroth and Cloud afterwards is so corny it's impossible to take seriously

>>714529524
Your takes are pretty retarded dude. It's clear you never played FF7 without knowing Aerith would die, and that's fine, but pretending like E33's dramatic bullshit even remotely compares because your reserve is one short (a reserve, I might add, that is practically NEVER used because the game is pretty easy and you almost never have your main party go down) is retarded. Fuck off, nobody cares about this game anymore, it was pretty good but the incessant jeet shilling and the (thankfully slowly regressing) posts about how it's a masterpiece has caused me to actually start to hate it.

>>714525303
shit comment made by a tranny

>>714529054
That checks out.

>>714529013
I have yet to play a single JRPG that is half as good as Expedition 33

>>714529906
>it was pretty good but the incessant jeet shilling and the (thankfully slowly regressing) posts about how it's a masterpiece has caused me to actually start to hate it.
So you opinions on games are that easily swayed because of jeets of 4chan? Why do you think anyone should listen to a thing say after you've admitted this?

>>714529124
>E33 has more depth than
It doesn't have more depth than anything. It's an incredibly shallow game.

>>714528816
I know what you mean. My first instinct would be to assume it was just shitposting or actual shills, but I know 2 people personally that love the game and wouldn't shut the fuck up about it. That said, they're not the types to like mechanically or narratively complex games, and tend to like railroaded stories with simple gameplay.

>>714530121
You still haven't given me an answer on which video game death was better.

>>714530146
>I have yet to play a single JRPG
I believe it.

>>714530275
The people of Termina in Majora's Mask.

>>714530275
Galuf in FFV. Now you can tell me how it's shit because it isn't modern realistic (read:blurry shit) graphics and doesn't have a popular voice actor attached to it so it's not impactful even though you've never actually played the game.

I don't get how you can find anything impactful in this game when you learn it's basically all a dream. This would be like sobbing over the bob-obs in bomb ob battlefield in mario 65

>>714524085 (OP)
The most memorable thing about Gustave is how forgettable his arc becomes once the real plot is revealed.

>>714530369
This is the death you think is impactful? fucking LMAO
Millennials and their pixel shit

>>714524085 (OP)
Shocking? All you had to do was look at his skill tree to know his end was nigh

>>714530445
>when you learn it's basically all a dream
That's not what happens

>>714530603
They use actual battle mechanics during his last stand instead of spoonfeed you a movie cutscene. Galuf's death is the gold standard for video game deaths.

>>714530603
So how long did it take you to look it up and fast forward to where he died on youtube?

>>714524085 (OP)
The locked skills in his skill screen was some top class misdirection.
First the locked skills suggests that he can't die that early. Then he dies anyway.
But then when characters starts to return, the locked skills suggests that Gustave will return anyway. And then he doesn't.

>>714530837
You might just be an idiot who doesn't play many games.

>>714530708
>They use actual battle mechanics during his last stand
Same with Gustave's death.
>Galuf's death is the gold standard for video game deaths.
Look, gramps, I know you played the game when you were at the impressionable age of 10. But we're all adults now.

>>714530896
>Same with Gustave's death.
Wrong. You do a battle as part of it, but most of it, including the hit that mortally wounds him, happens in a cutscene. Galuf is all diegetic.

>Look, gramps, I know you played the game when you were at the impressionable age of 10. But we're all adults now.
I played FFV for the first time a few years ago. It's one of the best JRPGs I've ever played. Try playing some good games and not trash for zoomers with low attention spans that are borderline illiterate.

>>714531042
>Galuf is all diegetic.
That wasn't what you said initially.
>I played FFV for the first time a few years ago
So you're going to try and gatekeep me by asking for all the JRPGs I played outside Final Fantasy, and then proceed to out yourself as JRPG newfag with the most basic bitch taste imaginable. Neck yourself, faggot.

>>714531387
>That wasn't what you said initially.
That wasn't me. I was expounding on what he said and providing context for why FFV handles it better than E33.
>So you're going to try and gatekeep me by asking for all the JRPGs I played outside Final Fantasy, and then proceed to out yourself as JRPG newfag
Nope, sorry. No one's played them all, even me. But I've played a lot of them. I just didn't happen to play FFV and VI until recently. In the first 12 years of my life, I still played more than you've played in your entire life.

>>714530896
No shit Gustave's death is similar. You're just proving my point for me.

>>714530896
Most overseas fans didn't play FFV until after having already played several other Final Fantasy games. It's not going to make the same impression as baby's first RPG, it's remembered not for a strong initial impact but lasting impression.

>>714524085 (OP)
Aerith’s death made such an impact on people because the story revolved around her, technically. She’s THE Cetra. She was there for Zack before the events of VII even happened. She’s the embodiment of the lifestream. She’s deeply ingrained in the story and it was obvious from the get go.

Meanwhile, this faggot was just a sack of depressed shit that had no connection to anything whatsoever. They couldn’t even provide you with a deeper backstory for this faggot aside from “muh ex is dead” because he’s just another “symbolism” and was le paintings.

>>714531931
>because the story revolved around her,
Not really. It was pretty much just about Cloud and Sephiroth. You could cut Aeris and leave all that stuff intact. Even Tifa is more involved with Cloud's life and past.

>>714528518
kek, really? i might have to finish my playthrough

>>714524085 (OP)
couldn't find another comparison other than the most popular final fantasy game that you haven't played? fuck off with your 8/10 game

>>714532219
I played FF7 for the first time recently. t was pretty good, but E33 has it beat.

>>714532298
FF7 is a very okay game and wildly overrated. It's still better than E33.

>>714528856
Who cares about some 2D anime sprites dying though, they don't feel like real characters.
Gustave automatically wins for not being anime

>>714532109
Except, like I said, Aerith was the embodiment of the lifestream which was essential for pushing back the meteor. Also, the white material came from her. Your argument is so disingenuous.

>>714532683
You're exactly the target audience for E33. I'm glad you liked it.

>>714532842
*materia

>>714524085 (OP)
> best video game characters
> its just shittier Shulk
the non-anime bonus is out of control, 6/10 games are called masterpieces because they do a shitty imitation of jrpgs, the future of gamin is grim

>>714524085 (OP)
love how success drives these faggots wild. just look how they brigaded /v/ for a year when dragon's dogma 2 came out.

>>714533072
I genuinely fear this game will be the next Dark Souls in that everyone will start copying what it did (shallow ripoff of popular things aimed at people who don't actually like those popular things) getting shilled as being made by a small team. We already saw that shit at the Summer Game's Fest.

>>714525303
troll bot

>>714532894
i am a turn based enthusiast but i avoid the story heavy ones because i can't give a shit about the story because it's always the same anime crap

>>714530679
Oh sorry it's a painting with "real" people that live inside it... Explain to me the difference.

>>714524085 (OP)
Its one of the best ever made and it makes me glad chink obsessed freaks are still seething over it.

>>714533423
I think you're just a retard if you're trying to pretend that FFV is anime shit. It's got far more engaging writing then a game completely up its own ass with being melancholic and melodramatic at every turn, outside of the occasional modern humor bit like this.

>>714524085 (OP)
>tries to make itself look good by kicking others down instead of relying on its own merits even though it got loads of them.
western studio behavior. just cant respect the game anymore.

>>714528909
Well put. I myself I'm tired of the miseryporn of modern games.

>>714524085 (OP)
clicked on the spoiler, guess i cant play your “game” now

>wow this looks pretty good dam the music is good too I need to check this ou- oh 10/10 reviews everybody loves it.. hmmm.. I HATE this
There, I just summed up majority of the people who dislike the game.

>/v/ all of a sudden hates E33 out of nowhere

>all of a sudden

>totally not a FF or tendie shill btw

>>714534225
>wow this looks pretty good
Yeah anon. I love Fab store assets with shit like lumen and GI turning everything into a blur and ghosted mess.

>>714534589
That's crazy, I played it, I've seen dozens of others play it and that effect doesn't happen at all. Not even in the same location you're showing. Almost as if you're retarded.

>>714534548
Neither FF nor Nintendo have been good since the early 90s. E33 still sucks.

>>714524085 (OP)
This person is white according to /v/edditors

>>714527607
Damn, it really wasn't that hard to beat
>PARRY SEPHIROTH WHO IS ABOUT TO KILL AERITH TO SUBVERT EXPECTATION, AND THEN SUBVERT THEM AGAIN WHEN SHE DIES ANYWAY WHILE WUB WUB MUSIC PLAYS AND SCHIZOPHRENIC ACTION PACKED FIGHTS TAKE PLACE AT ADHD PACE WITH PLOT GHOSTS JERKING OFF

Hm. I guess if you want to ape a death scene, you make it actually matter. Not depend on bullshitting the plot around due to overpaid VAs signing up for 3 games and not 2.

>ermm actually Nintendo and and everything FF7 and beyond SUCKS! E33 is poopy too :(

>>714534687
>That's crazy, I played it, I've seen dozens of others play it and that effect doesn't happen at all. Not even in the same location you're showing.
Go to the same place and do the same thing and make a webm. Don't bitch and moan like a retarded, tech illiterate faggot. Don't pretend to be aloof because you already showed that you're assmad by replying once. Just make the webm and post it.

>>714534918
>retard
>words words words you're so mad give me attention please
Retarded faggot

>>714535018
>no webm
Didn't think so. The game looks like shit. You being an assmad retard doesn't magically make temporal lighting solutions not look like shit.

Simon's death actually hit me harder than Gustave for some reason

>>714524085 (OP)
uh this isn't a nintendo game why is it on my catalog...

>>714525303
>missed the first comment
you're getting slower

>>714525303
this

>>714535117
>im not mad you mad
You're in a thread for a game you've never played trying to convince people not to believe their own lying eyes when they themselves have played it. If you're not getting paid you're definitely mad.

>>714528568
>he doesnt know about gustave and lune

>>714535329
nta but heres what the game looks like. its my very own screenshot.
it could use a bit more of brown and bloom imo.

>>714524085 (OP)
I like Expedition 33 but I'm astonished with how many people say it's the greatest ever. I can't think of a single thing it's superlative at. Great music, but the best? No. Great story, but the best? Hell no.

I feel like people who overly praise E33 haven't played a lot of RPGs in their life.

>>714535329
>You're in a thread for a game you've never played
That's my webm, you stupid fucking piece of shit.

>>714535165
The death didn't get me, I was more interested in what was going on than sad but the funeral got me.

>>714535440
what would you place above it? if you say dragon quest anything i'm going to be very upset with you so don't say that

>>714535446
>i'm not mad
>you stupid fucking piece of shit
kek

>>714535426
I see you're a based Golgra enjoyer

>>714535542
>stop saying mean things to me!
>stop calling the game shit!
>noooooo you can't post actual video footage of you playing the game, that's cheating!
Ah, you're a shill that doesn't actually have the game. That's why asking you to post gameplay made you start shitposting so hard. I hope you earned enough rupees for a glass of only mildly filthy water.

>>714524085 (OP)
great character. hes brave and strong and is never told to stop being a coward
by a waaaahman.

>>714535631
No, you're just not worth the effort.

>>714535649
Why are they dressed like a mail boy from the 40's?

>>714535614
>the leader of the brush people is yet another strong woman who don’t need no man.
but off course.

>>714535729
Nah, you're just too stupid to figure out how to encode a webm, and even if you could all it would do is prove you wrong. Learn what global illumination and lumen actually are before you pretend there's no ghosting.

>>714535783
technically she is a genderless brush puppet who resembles a muscular woman so it's not woke

>>714535804
I get /v/ may be your life but its more of a hobby for me. I spend more of my time playing video games.

how will the contrariantrannies cope when it sweeps goty?

>>714535954
>I spend more of my time playing video games.
Clearly not, otherwise you wouldn't be completely ignorant as to how they work.

>>714535886
>uuurrr aktually xe’s bin binary
lmao. great game french faggots.

>>714536008
They're going to kick and scream about how Kojimbo was robbed.

Gustave didn't have enough je ne sais quoi to be the real male MC.
He's unironically not edgy enough.
40 hours of Gustave's hunky dory awkwardness wouldn't be appealing.

>>714536046
how mind broken are you? gestrals are animated objects

>>714527496

>>714524085 (OP)
Can we all admit this game actually kinda sucked yet? Or do we still have to pretend it was revolutionary in some way

FF7 >>>>>> [...] >>>>>> trash >>>> [...] slop33

>>714535524
DQXI unironically
Xenoblade Chronicles 1
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Octopath Traveler II
Tales of Vesperia
Tales of Berseria
Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga
Mario and Luigi Bowser's Inside Story
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
Bug Fables
Mother 3
Xenogears
Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne
Chrono Trigger

All better in at least a couple of ways.

So from what I've gathered there's two groups. The side that acknowledges its a great game worth the praises and a few rough edges. Then the side with chink dick in their mouth because "noooo jrpg means JAPAN no JAPAN no good game". This is genuinely pathetic, its a video game. Turning this into some faction warfare thing is just retarded.

>>714536213
I'd add Xenosaga and FFX

>>714536194
trannies are still clinging on to it. they really love its shitty netflix tier faggot writing.

>>714535751
That's what the game is going for, but you're about 4 decades off. The outfits are designed to match fashion from the turn of the 20th century in France.

So from what I've gathered there are two groups. Group A acknowledges that it's fine game, but nothing specially as it's mechanically anemic and doesn't really amount to more than a ripoff of a few popular entry level games. Group B is a combination of shills and faggots that don't actually play video games.

>>714536243
>>714536213
>japanese slop list
Proves the point entirely.

>>714535783
>Unlock Monoco
>Go back to talk to her
>She immediately fights you
I love these wooden niggas like you wouldn't believe

>steam reviews are the highest in the countries with the highest white percentage
>the lowest scores in India and China
literally only subhumans hate it

>>714536378
Japan makes good games. Sorry to tell you this. Doesn't mean E33 isn't great, just that it's not GOTYAY best game ever.

>Gustave was merely days away from Sciel trying to get in his pants
mon dieu

>>714536536
What are your 10 favorite RPGs? East or West.

Maturing is realizing that E33 is just yet again another copy of Nier

>>714536213
you forgot Metaphor Re Fantazio.
hell, I even rather play FF stillbirth and I hated that unreal engine slop as hell. e33 is on the top list of most hated games though, last time I hated a game this much was as goy of soi: fagnacuck.

>>714536536
YOU BITCH BASTARD HOW DARE YOU POINT THIS OUT

>>714536378
you never played a single one of those

>>714536641
How?
Nier is just some coomerbait mash slop

>>714536213
>Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne
Tried playing that it was boring as hell. Nowhere close to being as good as E33. Also
>Xenoblade chronicles
just lol

>>714536681
E33 is better than Metaphor thoughever

>>714536805
>no argument
cope.

>>714536836
you are a smooth brain delusional tranny faggot. kill yourself.

>>714536805
Nocturne takes a while to get good but it does get really good. Most JRPGs have slow starts, though, so it's not like it's exclusively a Nocturne problem.

>Xenoblade chronicles
What's wrong with Xenoblade?

>>714536681
Metaphor is just Japanese woke slop. Not a single good character or memorable story moment.

>>714536681
Metaphor is rancid dogshit, it has to be the ugliest rpg in existence and the boring walls of texts between every combat encounter does not help

>>714536641
It really only "copies" one aspect of it and that's been done to death in tons of media, especially science fiction. That said, yes, Nier does it infinitely better.

>>714536913
>look it up
>its just gay as fuck anime
You people aren't even people anymore. Just anime obsessed weirdos.

>>714536913
But Metaphor is unironically more "woke" than E33 is. That's why E33 is better

>>714524085 (OP)
Why is his head so enormous?
It looks exactly like the characters from Dragon Age Veilguard.

>>714536906
My argument is that SMTV doesn't get the player invested in its story and characters right away like E33 does. The combat is also less engaging.

>>714536998
Anime is great. Metaphor isn't anime.

>>714536737
>painted family = shades that you MUST feel sorry for
>main character dies halfway through the game
>Lumière = The Bunker where you come from is eventually destroyed
>the final fight: Verso v Alicia = 9S v A2
Need I go on?

>>714536936
>>714536950
shot taste.
imagine hating on a beautiful and BASED masterpiece such as Hashino san’s magnum opus.
no wonder you faggots like the netflix tier unreal engine slop that is e33.

>>714537160
Yes go on, because Niershit didn't invent any of those

>>714537086
Nocturne =/= V

Nocturne is 2 decades old and was infamous for filtering shitters by being difficult. We used to get loads of threads on /v/ from like 2010 - 2015 about anons getting filtered by the Matador.

>>714537000
whats woke about metaphor? try your hardest to not be a disingenuous nigger now.

>>714536976
>Nier does it infinitely better.
>does it infinitely better.
Nier is fucking shit, both replicant and automata

>>714537159
Nearly all of it is garbage. The single exception was that 90s big sword man show.

>>714537182
>ugly brown mystery meats BUT anime and with cat ears
Do you also like Netflix anime slop?

>>714537182
Hashino peaked with Persona 4 and has been on a steady decline since.

>>714536537
> XCX
I wish I didn't just play this before E33 it made E33 look a lot weaker. I hope E33 is the wakeup call to Square Enix to stop making FF a watered down Kingdom Hearts with realistic graphics.

>>714537317
kill yourself faggot.

>>714537369
You first shitus faggot

>>714537369
No you kill yourself tranny, how dare you shill your woke dogshit here?

>>714537298
does he know?

>animefags outting themselves
I told you. It has nothing to do with the game, they're just enraged it didn't get released by Japan for some reason. This is a white game made for whites. Sorry Jackie Chan, love your movies but this wasn't made for you.

>>714537298
>Nearly all of it is garbage. The single exception was that 90s big sword man show.
Bro...? Your Legend of Galactic Heroes? Your Dungeon Meshi? Your Frieren? Your One Punch Man? Your Dragon Ball?

Oh I get it now. All the hate is from assmad Atlus fans, because E33 proved that good JRPGs can exist without any of the otaku crap.

>>714537437
its all indians and changs
>>714536536

>>714537409
you are hating on one of the best developer in the industry. masters of their craft.
while defending some unreal engine slop coded by yellow code monkeys with no interest in vidya and written by a french faggot.
once again, kill yourself you tasteless
soulless nigger.

>>714537470
>Your Frieren?
Xitter shit
>Your One Punch Man?
Lollmao
>spoiler
Spic shit

I thought they wouldn't stick to it. Something seemed odd about the way it was done. Well, I guess in a way, they didn't stick to it, but you know what I mean.

Anyways, it was a good moment but, no, it's not on Aerith's level.

>>714537578
All his games are shit and Persona was never good.
Rope tranny

>>714524085 (OP)
I don’t even remember that he died. Also he was replaced by some faggot that looked sounded and acted just like him immediately after to somehow make me give even less of a shit.

>>714537428
Know what?
>>714537470
Grew up with Dragonball & Z so if that counts than ok. Big sword guy and beam wars were fun.

>>714524085 (OP)
I’d argue that one of the key strengths of Areiths death that supersedes any knowledge that someone may have before hand is its impact on the broader narrative. I feel like Gustaves death only works if you don’t see it coming because he dies so early. His existence within the narrative only becomes more apparent after all is said and done because when you finally understand everything then you obviously know him being alive would have created a third ending. And since EX33 is supposed to be misery porn they couldn’t have that. However even when you know Aerith will die there’s still a tension and unease because it’s like stepping outside hoping that this won’t be the moment when a random meteor strikes you. You know it’s coming but you don’t know when. I think that’s what makes her death timeless.

>>714537362
XCX Definitive Edition is still my game of the year and that's even with taking E33, MKW (pre-patch that ruined the game), Rune Factory, Khazan, and Kingdom Come II into account.

>>714537578
>Best developer in the industry

Maelle would have fucked Gustave if he ever asked.

>>714537691
anime website

FOR THOSE WHO COME AFTER

>>714537610
Twitter freaks HATE Frieren because they keep comparing the demons to Jews/Blacks and Frieren won't stop genociding them. I don't know how you associated it with Twitter.

>Shitting on One Punch Man
no taste

>>714537695
>misery porn
I keep hearing that but there's a difference between a tragedy and misery porn. I hate the movie but Titanic is a tragedy, tlou2 is misery porn.

>>714537793
they definitely are one of the best. along side capcom and fromsoft and koei tecmo.
the holy trinity of vidya gods.

>>714537819
anime, not tranime.
All anime after 2006 is tranime

>tendie nominating tendie shit for goty
Color me shocked

>>714524085 (OP)
No one literally no one gives a fuck about gustav not even his fellow teammates. They immediately slobber over verso.

>>714537883
S1 has its fun moments with some really good animation. S2 and the book are absolute garbage though. Literally became the thing it was a parody of.

>>714535440
It's definitely a bit overrated with people trying to say that it's le best game ever but it's easily in my top 10 JRPGs and if it were a Final Fantasy game, it'd be in my top 3. I unironically have it above VI. Sue me.

>>714537086
>The combat is also less engaging.
You'd be hard pressed to find a turn based RPG with worse combat than E33 because even bog standard turn based combat is better.

>>714524085 (OP)
>Not only is he one of the best video game characters in recent memory
Can you explain why you feel this way?

>>714537883
>Twitter freaks HATE Frieren
They hate it whenever Xittertards bring it up otherwise it's completely forgotten
>Shitting on One Punch Man
What >>714537996 said, literally nobody talks about S2

>>714537287
Nier handles the idea of what it means to be sapient and alive far better than E33. You getting upset that people fap to 2B won't change that.

>>714537998
>if it were a ff game I'd like it more
What does that even mean?

>>714537891
I wasn’t really using it as a pejorative but I understand what you mean.

>>714525303
Agreed, everything about this game and its fans seems really homosexual.

>>714538017
I get that not everyone likes parrying, but E33's combat system is at least at the same level as Persona 5's

>>714538140
Stop samefagging nigger

>>714538189
>I get that not everyone likes parrying
I love parrying. In action games. Gimmick presses in turn based games are garbage.

>>714528856
The three good Paper Mario's, super Mario RPG, tales of Symphonia, Chrono trigger, FF 1-5

>>714537793
>Using Ichi's girlfriend to shitpost
Don't do that

>>714538112
>Nier handles the idea of what it means to be sapient and alive far better than E33.
Elaborate.
>You getting upset that people fap to 2B won't change that.
What's the correlation?? Only lore faggots on xitter get uppity about 2b being called a fap queen

>>714525303
SPBP

>>714538140
not more gay than the hundreds of Cloud sissy threads started by FFF (Final Fantasy Fags)

>>714537351
P5 was better than P4

>>714538091
>They hate it whenever Xittertards bring it up otherwise it's completely forgotten
That doesn't make sense

>>714537996
>>714538091
>literally nobody talks about S2
That's because the animation in S2 took a huge nosedive from the utter kino of S1. The webcomic/manga are great though

The only reason people still pretend to give a damn about Aerith's death is because millennial game journalists (subhumans) played FF7 when they were children.

>>714538346
>Elaborate.
It's entirely self-explanatory. Both games feature characters that's aren't "real" but still feel real emotions and lead real lives. What part of that is hard to understand?

>>714524085 (OP)
How did they get away with straight up ripping off Robert Pattinson's likeness

>>714538394
>it was just because da animation da book still good do
You stupid japanese cocksucking faggot. Its a parody of itself at this point.

>>714528518
Why? Gustave spent like a week on the continent before he died, if that. Verso probably went without pussy for decades, depending on the last expedition he traveled with. Also it's implied that Gustave and Lune got together for a bit after he broke up with Sophie. It probably didn't work because Lune is a workaholic and Gustave's true love is Sophie.

>>714536213
>DQXI unironically
Agreed. Also VIII
>Xenoblade Chronicles 1
Disagreed but I respect it, but only if you mean the original and not the soulless remake
>Xenoblade Chronicles X
No
>Octopath Traveler II
No
>Tales of Vesperia
Disagreed but I respect it
>Tales of Berseria
No lol
>Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga
No
>Mario and Luigi Bowser's Inside Story
No
>Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
No
>Bug Fables
Never played it
>Mother 3
Never played it
>Xenogears
No lol
>Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne
Agreed
>Chrono Trigger
Agreed. You're real for this one. /v/ always pretends this game isn't insanely good. /v/ is more contrarian about this game than E33 lol

>>714538126
Sorry, I meant to say that if it were a FF game, it'd be in my top 3 FF games. Not that it would jump up in my estimation lol

>>714524085 (OP)
Gustave is a very shitty attempt at aping the best character in Attack on Titan, and the frogs got away with it only because journoshills don't even watch anime.

>>714538510
Yeah, the source material is still kino even if the adaptation of S2 was bad. I don't get what's wrong with that statement.

>>714524085 (OP)
Sadly the game went from a 10/10 to a 4/10 in almost every way (except music) the moment he died. It's why I sometimes doubt shills played much past Act I. Act III no one gives a shit about him and his ideals didn't matter.

>>714538464
>What part of that is hard to understand?
HOW anon, not WHAT.

>>714538673
Literally nothing to do with Attack on Titan. Stop trying to shill your shitty tranime.

>>714528518
In my game Verso only fucks Sciel who looks like a man so it's fine. Gustave's girlfriend in Lumiere was hotter.

>>714538652
>>Xenogears
>No lol
filtered

>>714525303
spbp

>>714538673
What, Eren? Apparently you don't watch anime either because Eren's character became total dogshit at the end. And if you're referring to Eren, you're also wrong. Gustave is Eren's arc at the start of the anime only without a retarded LOL THIS SERIES IS ACKKKKTSUALLY ABOUT OUR INCOMPETENT BUT IDEALISTIC MCS SUPER SECRET POWERS!

>>714538742
>doesn't know which character I am talking about
The entire plot of the game and all the characters are ultra generic cutouts from JRPGs and anime. Normies don't notice it simply because of the Yurop aesthetics.

>>714538818
Look, man, I enjoyed Xenogears, but let's be real. E33 is unfinished and it looks like it's fully complete compared to Xenogears. Xenogears is extremely flawed.

Why can't you fags bring up a game from the last 10 years that's as good as Exp33?
I don't give a shit about slop from the 90's

>>714538652
>Not liking XCX
Tasteless or just filtered?

>Agreed. You're real for this one. /v/ always pretends this game isn't insanely good. /v/ is more contrarian about this game than E33 lol
I think it's because it used to be on a lot of top 10/3x3 threads and Zoomers who went into the game with negative view of it ended up nitpicking it instead of actually enjoying the game.

Sure, it's a little dated, but for a 3 decade old game it still holds up incredibly well. It's every bit the equal of Super Metroid, A Link to the Past, and DKC.

>>714538679
Takes itself way too seriously. I don't get a chubby from seeing some "woah le heckin beam mode 10,000,000x?! woahhhh" I also don't like the humor outside of King.

>>714525486
I really don't know why this guy got work after 16, they should have cast the guy who voices Hendrick from DQ11 or something, Ben whatever his name is fuckin STIIIIINKS

>>714538886
Eren is not the one in charge of the expedition you humongous retard.

>>714538912
fair enough

>>714524085 (OP)
i got to it and felt nothing. maybe its because im playing on the steam deck( don't recommend it looks like claymation more or less) or maybe its story pacing.

>>714538702
>HOW anon, not WHAT.
All you said was elaborate, you dumb fuck.

>>714538936
>Why can't you fags bring up a game from the last 10 years that's as good as Exp33?
YIIK: The Post Modern RPG

>>714538936
/v/ is coping about e33 very hard just like they had to cope about BG3, it's sad to watch
>>714538912
One of it's biggest flaws being the godawful battle system. I was filled with dread every single time my screen shattered for another gay ass random battle in Gears. I actually went out of my way to find battles in E33.

>>714528518
Verso is the most self indulgent Gary Stu I've ever seen in a JRPG and it's crazy how no one mentions it. He's literally the french equivalent of the black haired isekai mc. Sardonic quips to everything and no consequences to his actions. He betrays everyone, performs a genocide and requires 1 cutscene to go back to fucking his harem. Even when he admits he engineered Gustave's sacrifice Maelle is like omg you're so honest and cool instead of being mad. Expedition is an insanely weeb game even fuller with the tropes they say they avoided but since it doesn't have an anime aesthetic no one noticed.

>>714538346
>Nier handles the idea of what it means to be sapient and alive far better than E33.
>Elaborate.
Read nigger READ

>>714538673
>>714538886
Attack on titan became dogshit when it turned into gay teenage mech battles, that's essentially what the titans became, meat mechs piloted by retarded teens.
I have never been so let down by a manga i sought out after finishing it's first season

>>714538889

>>714525486
Game quality falls off hard too. It was much better when it was about the expedition.

>>714537996
>S2 and the book
Who the fuck refers manga as "the book"?

>>714539131
E33 is one of the best and BG3 is shit. E33 actually gave good friend moments in camp. BG3 didn't have a single one, nothing but "hey wanna do fag stuff now? hey wanna see a magic trick (secretly fag sex)"

>>714539035
What does that have to do with anything I said you enormous faggot? If the implication is that Gustave's death is trying to ape Erwin's and not Eren's then you're even more stupid than I originally thought.

>>714539003
It takes itself seriously so the humor shines through. A lot of the jokes wouldn't work, for example everything surrounding King, if it was an on-the-nose comedy the entire time.

>>714539139
A big part of Verso's character is that he's a compulsive liar that hides everything and gets away with it because of good looks and charm (And also because the rest of the party is forced to rely on him). If it were to be written like the average JRPGslop and not be among the best of the genre, Verso would be fully justified in everything he did and the game as a whole would suck its cock rather than present him as a liar, like some version of pic related.

>>714538889
Idk, there's quite a bit of American media in there. Logan's Run being a clear and obvious inspiration, but go off queen

>>714539139
>insanely weeb game
>weebs absolutely assblasted about the game
Pick one.

>>714539361
Weebs aren't assblasted by E33, though. It's people assblasted by Japanese games trying to force a rivalry that doesn't exist.

>>714539291
>he didn't kill all the fags in his game and instead let them infest his camp
You would subject Withers to that?

>>714538889
And attack on faggot is literally just a single european fort surrounded by maneating giants, how very original

>>714539301
Again shit like what you posted makes me smile. That stuff is cool. Its still nowhere near as good as the start but I did enjoy myself up until the Blast stuff. From the moment they introduced him onwards it just looked stupid to me.

>>714539485
How are Japanese games trying to force a rivalry? E33 just came out.

>>714539207
Well Attack on Titan is obviously influenced by Gurren Lagan and Muv Luv Alternative.

>>714539139
I was enjoying how open and honest and logic the party members were with each other. Then Verso shows up and suddenly everyone's a fucking retard who can't connect basic dots and they all trust him.

>>714539291
nah, both e33 and b3 are some of the faggiest if not THE faggiest games ever conceived.

>>714539485
Weebs absolutely are assblasted by this game, you can't go a day without one of them telling you that you need to play a REAL Jrpg if you think E33 is any good

>>714539227
Name one Western game that has a plot and combat system similar to E33.

>>714539361
Some weebs are assblasted about the game cause it's being used by shitposters to say that JRPGs suck and this is better than everything and beat the Japanese at their own game. They're also assblasted because the game is admittedly overrated by people that haven't played all that many JRPGs. This is not better than Dragon Quest VIII. It's not better than Nocturne. It's not better than Live A Live. It's not even better than Final Fantasy 7, the one everyone knows about.

The reason why this game is so good is because it pays proper reverence to all the best JRPGs and is a full on JRPG in everything but the artstyle, which is pure French SOVL instead. It stands on the shoulders of giants and makes no bones about it. In truth, this game is a love letter to JRPGs, which is why it's a shame that shitposters have turned some weebs against it.

>>714539171
>quoted the wrong post
I now see how you're too stupid to understand how Nier handles the concept infinitely better.

>>714539291
>E33 is one of the best and BG3 is shit
Intense jeet vibes coming from this post.

>>714539632
Even comparing the two on faggy levels tells me you didn't play either game. Not a single fag companion in E33, BG3 constant fag shit even when you've said no for the 3rd time. Not a single realistic or endearing conversation between characters that doesn't devolve to "lets have fag sex"

>>714539227
This would be more applicable if the devs didn't explicitly say they love and were inspired by JPRGs, and if they didn't do shit like rip off Persona's social links for no reason.

>>714539261
This. The expedition was way better than the family drama.

>>714539630
Sciel and Lune are suspicious of him but have no choice but to follow him. How else were they gonna make it through the barrier?

>>714539708
Answer the question

>>714539632
E33 has no gay sex or crossdressing.
Bald gay 3 and Final fantasy on the other hand

>Wrestlechad = E33
>Asuka = /v/aboos, fatlusfag, and ffags

>>714539298
Maybe if you keep asking questions to ChatGPT you might get a half assed understanding of what happens in the anime.

>>714539780
>I LIKE GAY BESTIALITY!!!!
say no more

>>714539647
its not about being a weeb you dim witted nigger. I am wish sure everyone wishes western developers could go back to making good games again, but everything they have done for at least the last decade is pure faggot slop, and e33 sadly is no exception.

>>714539647
E33 is shit. Ultima VII is a masterpiece. See how easy that is?

>>714537253
Just stack dark might and use dog breath. The monk is the real shitter with two high chance insta deaths to the whole party.

>>714539342
The E33 director is an outspoken weaboo and the characters are all anime stereotypes.

>>714539837
the dialogue is really fucking gay and lame in e33 though. truly unbearable unless you are a faggot.

>>714539879
Western devs knock it out of the park about as often as gookdevs. For every Concord there's a thousand Genshit Impacts

>>714524085 (OP)
That's why I had to get the Maelle ending, because him possibly reviving his GF and saving everyone was my main motivation for most of the game. Sure, he's fake, but I mean, he's not, so fuck you. I care more about the suffering of a whole universe than a single family. Sucks that Maelle basically becomes a creepy god/paint-addict, but... it's the lesser evil? Maybe? ...great game

>>714539835
In Nier the characters actually ponder their existence and "realness" on some level. In E33 Sciel and Lune don't even fucking react to finding out they're painting characters. The concept isn't explored at all on a fundamental level. It's taken for granted entirely by everyone in universe.

>>714539974
chinks dont count nigger, no one cares about chinks.

>>714539961
>m-muh dialogue
no abstractions allowed, it's objectivelly not gay unlike BG3 and FF

>>714539647
Weebs are annoyed for two reasons:
>Seeing journos and shills heavily praise the game for doing shit that they have seen a million times in other games and animes.
>not having an anime artstyle

>>714539995
based and same
But Versofags will seethe

>>714539810
>Sciel and Lune are suspicious of him but have no choice but to follow him.
No. They say they're suspicious to placate retards playing the game. The problem is that they don't act suspicious. They don't question anything specific. Maelle is the worst about it but Sciel and the hyper-observant Lune are blind to everything he does as soon as he shows up.

>>714539321
The game bends over backwards to try to make him the good guy when his death would've unironically solved like 90% of the plot's problems.

>>714540075
The thing is that E33 unironically does these things better than 95% of other JRPGs.
It may not beat all the classics, but it beats the average JRPG slop.

>>714539995
Its the most realistic argument I see for the Maelle side. Verso is still right though.

>>714539845
She also did prostitution so this isn't as bad as it looks if you consider that.

>>714540185
>The thing is that E33 unironically does these things better than 95% of other JRPGs.
What things? Combat? Exploration? Pacing?

>>714540075
>a thousand times
The populace has dogshit jrpg fatigue, sorry Atlus, I'm not interested in some gay press-turn high risk high reward bullshit. We want new Dragon Quest

>>714540228
Combat and story.

>>714540229
>We want new jrpgslop

>>714540228
correct.

>>714540185
>The thing is that E33 unironically does these things better than 95% of other JRPGs
Kill yourself.

What if the next April Fool's day prank was banning all people from India from posting on this board? Then what if instead of April Fool's it was today? And instead of only one day it was forever?

>>714539854
I accept your surrender, retard-kun.

>>714540185
Brown hands types this btw.

>>714540228
Yes. As well as Story, Presentation, and Characterization.

>>714540314
Get hit by a train jeet

>>714540334
Most of the E33 threads died the moment Microsoft did the layoffs so I would be in favor of that.

>>714540228
Storywise, character-wise, performance-wise, etc the game beats any JRPG I've ever played. Just the fact that there's no villain, it's all morally ambiguous and people are just driven by opposing values makes it better than any dumbass "le evil supervillain wants to become God" that is the case in.. pretty much 100% of all JRPGs I've ever played

>>714540139
>hey this guy's been helping us only thing he kept secret was his father which seems reasonable
>anon is assblasted they didn't kick him out of the group the second he showed up after saving Maelle
Make it make sense.

>>714540292
The established jarpig gimmicks are tired. Final fantasy is no longer a jarpig, atlus jarpigs are fucking awful with awful writing and meaningless stories, AAAAAALLLLL the others are so insecure about being jarpigs that they hinge combat on some gay resource stacking gimmick or pivoting away from turn based in favor of some undercooked slop system.

>>714539647
That's because Francophiles treat E33 like it's the best game made this century when it's just a good game. As the youth would call it: "glazing".

>>714540394
>Pajeet Pass game
>Microjeet thinks he is fooling anyone

>>714540334
Does this mean we're banning Canada too?

>>714540473
>Francophiles
brand new weeb cope just dropped

>>714540291
Fuck no.

>>714540374
Also no across the board.

>>714540410
>Storywise, character-wise, performance-wise, etc the game beats any JRPG I've ever played.
Ah, it's just retards trolling.
>Just the fact that there's no villain, it's all morally ambiguous and people are just driven by opposing values makes it better than any dumbass "le evil supervillain wants to become God" that is the case in.. pretty much 100% of all JRPGs I've ever played
You don't play JRPGs. You read shitposts about JRPGs.

>>714540228
Well, you got five thousand replies, but I just want you to know that I'm the guy you were originally replying to and I posted >>714540291
I think E33 has somewhat weak main characters and it's easy to think of JRPG characters that are more likeable. But in terms of overall story and combat, E33 is better than 95% of JRPGs. Only some of the classics beat it at that.

>>714540291
We need asean countries and the entire indian subcontinent banned immediately.

>>714540340

>>714539890
You're being very disingenuous. Just look at this thread to see exactly what I'm talking about. Nobody brings up WRPGs when it comes to this game, and they shouldn't. It's not like they have similarities.
>>714540228
Combat, absolutely. Story is certainly up there.

>>714540526
Name a better JRPG released this decade I dare you.

>>714540431
>anon is a retarded faggot making excuses for a shitty writing
>comes up with a strawman to pretend he has a point
It makes sense. Lots of retards here.

I miss when we used to ban weebs

>>714524085 (OP)
I honestly don't know why people like Gustave so much, he's ok but Verso is way better.

>>714540410
>there's no villain, it's all morally ambiguous and people are just driven by opposing values
This person has never played a single JRPG in his life.

>>714540228
>>714540291
>>714540303
>>714540374
The combat is literally just Mario & Luigi combat except with the action commands being made easier for modern audiences.

>>714540584
>You're being very disingenuous.
You're being very reddit.
>It's not like they have similarities.
We all know JRPGs are nothing like Ultima.
>Combat, absolutely
The combat is shit.

>>714524085 (OP)
My reaction to his death wasn't shock, per se. I literally said "Really?" out loud. It was a reflexive feeling of dissatisfaction. I had devoted all this time and effort to make Gustave my strongest party member up to that point, and they fuckin killed him. I kept holding out hope that he could be brought back like Crono in Chrono Trigger, but nope. The devs are lucky Verso turned out to be so based and kino

>>714540526
>>714540636
I'm not a dweeb but I've played maybe 10 JRPGs from start to finish, and a lot of them have great stories, but there's usually a big supervillain at the end who wants to do some world-ending shit

>>714540526
Anon, I'm not gonna ask you to name 20 JRPGs you think have a better story, because I already know I will vehemently disagree with at least 10 of the ones you name.
And that anon is absolutely right that a lot of JRPG stories tend to fall down for dumb tropes that weaken them. Suikoden 2, for example. I fucking love that game, but it should have carefully cut out everything in between Luca Blight's death and the final duel between Hero and Jowy

>>714540636
Meanwhile the JRPGs you're talking about have the "morally complex villain" turn into an amalgamation of The Thing and Satan before the final battle

>>714540561
>brings up AOT
>tells other people to go to Reddit
You could have at least referred to it as a manga to save face.

>>714540589
SMTVV. And I don't even think it's that great. It just has way better movement/levels, and better combat.

>>714540672
And every game youve ever played is just pacman with better graphics

>>714540714
I saw his death coming a mile away and kept him underpowered because of it. I'm just happy you don't lose the pictos he's got equipped when he goes because I didn't know which fight would be his last.

>>714540603
It just sounds like what you wanted was some pointless filler drama. I liked the story being too the point.

>>714540589
>Name a better JRPG released this decade I dare you.
Y2K II: Benevolent Psychosis

>>714524085 (OP)
>More impactful than Aeris
Zoomie opinions don't count. If you weren't there, you wouldn't know.

>>714540794
>SMTV
>story
You're fucking high

>>714540813
That's a complete non sequitur.

>>714528637
>>714528840
>>714529237
It's not NTR if the guy who lost is fuckin dead.

>>714540875
Heroes dad dying in DQ5 is better than Serious death
Half of the events of DQ11 are better than Aeriths death

>>714540730
Having an evil villain at some point isn't a bad thing. "Everything is grey" isn't refreshing nor is it compelling, because in this game a lot of it would be solved with characters talking to each other and not being completely polarized idiots.

>>714540771
>doesnt know there was a permanent /snk/ thread on /a/
Confirmed for tourist.

>>714525303
So much this!

>>714540838
The game gives you all his upgrade points back when he dies so you wasted your energy nerfing him.

>>714540618
Anime site

>>714540139
They literally have no other choice, Verso is the one who directs the party because he's lived there for 100 years and knows how to cross the barrier, where the Axons are, where the Paintress heart is etc. Lune's plan after Gustave died was to write everything down and prepare to die and hope the next expedition has more luck lol

>>714540843
I can't believe this is how I find out YIIK got a sequel. I can't believe YIIK got a sequel. I'm YIIKing out.

>>714540410
>le gray morality shit is le good
Zoomer retard. Go watch GoT or something. Also the game had a family of decadent, uncaring, stupid, bumbling demiurges which probably flew over your head. There is a clear good and evil distinction but you're too stupid to see it. The game was written like shit so it has to bend itself over backwards to try to get you to justify the annihilation of an entire world by a bunch of bumbling downright evil retards. The generic JRPG villain whose goal is to become god is fundamentally good in comparison and more interesting than a bunch of 5 minute characters whose entire foundation is "dysfunctional netflix family".

>>714540876
NTA but you literally cannot even read.

>>714540876
Can you read? Are you fucking stupid?

>>714540935
>It's not NTR if the guy who lost is fuckin dead
Eren would disagree with that.

>>714540986
I was just using him as a break-slut/shield breaker. It's not like he was good for much else because he didn't have a lot of moves to learn

>>714541009
>Ack Studios

>>714541023
>>714541069
Read the previous post
>E33 has a good story
>>>HRMMM YOU MUST BE TROLLING
>name a better JRPG
>.......Well smtv has bbbbbbetter movement and levels I guess!!
C you're way out of this conversation, tardo

>>714540956
>"Everything is grey" isn't refreshing
For a JRPG it absolutely is lol, and it's not just about greyness, it's about not falling for boring overdone tropes (Of which morally greyness isn't one in JRPGs). Luca Blight is not morally grey. He's just about the most evil motherfucker in JRPG history. But he's done well and memorably, unlike the boring shit that comes after in that game because the writers felt the need to keep pumping up the stakes.
>in this game a lot of it would be solved with characters talking to each other and not being completely polarized idiots
Verso being a compulsive liar is the fundamental part of his character.

>>714541014
The Gray Morality shit has radicalized people even further into Tolkien's camp.

>>714540957
>he doesn't know /a/ is Reddit-lite

>>714540841
No, you fucking idiot. Characters not acting like idiots isn't "pointless filler drama". Why didn't Maelle comment on Verso saying "I knew you'd let her in" when they approached the mansion?

>>714541167

>>714541190
I think the greyness deserves some credit too seeing as it stems from interpersonal communication breakdown and not faggot gook shit like
>WE NEED THE WOOD FROM YGDRASSIL TO BUILD HOUSE
>BUT WE NEED FRUIT FROM YGDRASSIL TO EAT
>THIRD PARTY HAVE WATER NO WANT GIVE FOR YGDRASSIL AND NOW GRUG MORALLY CONFUSED
>WHAT ANCIENT DRAGON HERO OF PROPHECY THINK!?

>>714540687
Name some RPGs with better combat to salvage this godawful post then.

>>714541174
You asked for a better JRPG. You didn't specified for story in that post so you opened yourself for that.

>>714541190
>it's about not falling for boring overdone tropes
"Someone is evil in a fantasy world" isn't a boring overdone trope.

>>714541367
You can't stay on topic, I'm not culpable for your goldfish brain

>>714541332
It being a communication error makes it WORSE though. If the conflict is unavoidable because of the realities of scarcity, it makes for a better story.

>>714541190
>it's not just about greyness, it's about not falling for boring overdone tropes (Of which morally greyness isn't one in JRPGs).
based, exactly

>>714541242
Shit bait.

>>714541350
SMTVV, you dumb nigger.

>>714541420
I am not the same anon I don't even play modern JRPGs. Just saying that's how argumentation works.

>>714541482
>atlus shit
Slightly darker highschool drama is still queershit

>>714541537
Gameplay, you illiterate nigger. Gameplay.

>>714541435
The conflict IS unavoidable, though. Verso wants to die and for Maelle to go back to her regular life. Maelle wants to live in the painting and for Verso to be with her. Everything else is put on the balance between these two opposing forces. Communication can't solve this.

>>714541482
>fatlus
KEK

>>714541575
>the gameplay: mashing A while your homo friends cry about their feelings
BRAVO

>>714541482
SMTV MoreGooder edition is still worse than 4 and 4A

>>714524085 (OP)
It was pretty obvious when all his weapons were dogshit.
Sucks that they made it so obvious.

>>714541204
I hate movies and recently watched Excalibur and was glued to my seat the whole time. Gray morality shit is so fucking boring and unironically unrealistic. Irl I've met clearly good and evil people, in fact the majority of people can be firmly divided in those ways. You have situations where good people can be monsters, or some where evil people change for the better, but by and large people are what they are in a clear cut way.

>>714541589
Verso only had a real issue when he realized Maelle would stay in the painted world until she died. If Maelle just agreed to come and go and find balance in life, Verso would have lived out the rest of his natural life.

>>714541617
You literally cant do that.

>>714541762
>Verso only had a real issue when he realized Maelle would stay in the painted world until she died
Wrong. Monoco himself literally already knew what Verso was about to do. He says as much before they go to Lumiere. The truth is that Verso wanting to die is just as, if not more important than his empathy for his family.

>>714541747
>raises spork* ERM ackshually people can be good and bad
Erm ACKSHUALLY 2 people can both be correct and in conflict with one another.

>>714524085 (OP)
>It's easily more impactful than Aeris' death in FF7
this is maximum cope buddy lmao
nei was the most impactful, alys was the next msot impactful, then aerith was the next most impactful
however aeriths game was more widespread, so it normalized it and it became inherently much less impacful as a whole from that point onwards

>>714541451
Sorry you can't cope with the fact that your favorite anime is Reddit-tier.

>>714541537
Is SMTV set in a high school? I thought it mostly takes place in hell or whatever.

>>714527046
Of course he doesn't care about those, they're low quality products like E33. I guarantee you he cared about indiana jones.

>>714541617
Wrong game, shitposting faggot.

>>714542047
Look at literally every guest party members bio

>>714531931
I doubt Aerith's relevance to the plot of FF7 had anything to do with her death becoming an iconic scene, in fact I'm pretty sure half the people who played FF7 did not understand the plot. I think it has more to do with her death being unexpected and the focus of multiple CG cutscenes on PS1.
As for myself, I did play og-FF7 rather late (2010 or something) and Rebirth too and I did not feel the impact of her death because I never really cared about her character (or any of the FF7 cast for that matter so...).

Meanwhile Gustave is extremely likable from the get go and is the protagonist. The circumstances of his death are tragic and even more so when you learn later that Verso let him die, it has a lasting impact on Maelle and we are regularly reminded that she goes on with the expedition to honor his memory. I am among the players who chose the Maelle ending because I wanted to see more Gustave, that's how cool this dude was.

>>714542013
You don't watch anime so why would you even care?

>>714529869
You're just retarded.

>>714524085 (OP)
>his death might just be the most shocking and emotional in all of video games
lol
lmao even

>>714541864
Verso is ontologically evil and you literally cannot make a case for him as he could've died several times over the story. Maelle is selfish and exclusively motivated to save the world because she doesn't want to live as a freak outside the painting, but her actions are good. Renoir is a retard. Alyne is a stupid bitch addicted to the Sims. There's your nuanced story.

>>714542104
>wrong game
You sure about that bud?

>>714542104
No high school here!!!

>>714524085 (OP)
how much would a suit like that set me back at men's wearhouse

>>714542104
So glad this isn't a game about highschoolers

>>714542104
Big boy not highschool game coming through!

>>714542401
>>714542332
>>714542262
>having a mental breakdown over a Fatlus game

>>714542207
>Maelle is selfish and exclusively motivated to save the world because she doesn't want to live as a freak outside the painting
Her motivations go beyond just that. Were you speedrunning the final act?

>>714542478
>I didn't actually play the game but let me run defense for it
Im sure you heard somewhere that SMT isn't about highschool like persona is, but let me assure you that persona got its dirty fucking paws in SMT and there's no going back

>>714542262
>>714542332
>>714542401
>>714542469
yet this game is ridiculously BASED. unlike that faggot muh depression e33 shit.

>>714542767
>NUH UH THIS GAME ISNT ABOUT HIGHSCHOOLERS
>it demonstrably is
>YYYYYEAH BUT ITS ACTUALLY BASED
cool. Enjoy your trans mc

>>714542852
you are one dumb dark as a moonless night nigger.

>>714542629
I literally don't care about SMTV. Persona games do seem to have more interesting stories.

>>714542946

>>714543015
Let me save you the trouble
>demons are causing depression disease, scoob and the gang gotta stop it
>some rapist is killing people on channel 9, scoob and the gang gotta stop it
>I have no fucking clue, Persona 5 is too fucking zesty for my blood

Weebs aren't sending their best.

>>714540229
>We want new Dragon Quest
Nobody wants that.

>>714543506
>Demake
That ain't new

>>714537819
>>714540987
The current top threads on /a/
>/dbs/ - /v/ colony
>Cyberpunk - /v/ colony
>Chainsawman - /v/ colony
>/opg/ - /v/ colony
>/opm/ - /v/ colony
>eceleb thread - /v/ colony
>eceleb thread - /v/ colony
Complete /v/ cultural victory.
Tranime lost.

>>714543569
Of the games in the picture.
>New remakes
Dragon Quest 3
Persona 3
>Several Year Old Ports
Persona 4 Golden
Persona 5 Royale
Final Fantasy VII Remake
Final Fantasy XVI
Final Fantasy XV
Kingdom Hearts 1.5 + 2.5
>Several Month Old Ports
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth

I suppose Dragon Quest XI has more players than... Final Fantasy XV. I guess that's a victory for someone.

>>714541843
Wrong. He wanted to die but he was okay with Maelle's plan until he realized she wanted to die in that world. That's what pushed him to let Renoir destroy the painting. He was conflicted before that, and his immortality was gone so there was no immediate issue.

>>714542469
Big boy game with actual world-ending stakes, moral ambiguity, and characters who aren’t just walking tropes in school uniforms. Finally a JRPG where nobody’s worried about test scores or senpai noticing them-just metaphysical annihilation and the philosophical weight of godhood.

>>714542262
>>714542332
>>714542401
>>714542469
Play the games you shitpost about, or at least spend a few minutes looking at a video. It's very obvious you're confusing it for Persona.

>>714543767
His immortality was not gone. He was created like that.

I have Ben Starr fatigue

Verso is cooler

>>714532109
If you take Aerith out they never would have ended up in Shinra HQ and found out about Sephiroth. And Aerith has a pretty significant impact on Cloud as a character

All the girls liked Gustave, but I feel like there's more latent lust for Verso.
I don't know what to make of these findings.

>>714544078
Did you see Maelle's ending? He ages.

>>714544892
>If you take Aerith out they never would have ended up in Shinra HQ and found out about Sephiroth.
The other three were part of an insurgency trying to take down Shinra. They would have got there sooner or later. And Cloud already knew about Sephiroth

>>714544154
I skipped ff16 so I didn't find him overbearing. I did appreciate Jennifer English actually used a slightly different tone for voicing Maelle.

Aerith's death didn't make me cry, but this did

>>714544971
Gustave is sad and tragic, but he's still a nice guy. Verso is sad and tragic and will kill you in your sleep then chop the body up and scatter your remains to the ocean without anyone ever finding out who murdered you.

>>714544971
Verso got the Dilf salt and pepper hair. Gustave was just the nice guy that girls feel safe to hang out with and talk about their day

>Did you know if you took out the music and the story and the writing and the themes and the aesthetics you'd only be left with gameplay, and the gameplay is something similar to another game I played before so checkmate
Wow I never thought of it like that you sure showed me

>>714539879
>It's not about [thing you just said]
>It's actually about [immediately and unwittingly performs the role of exactly who he described]

lol lmao?

>>714540291
And music and characters, frankly. Probably visuals and dialogue writing too if we're being honest here. Oh and voice acting, if we're keeping it 100.

But let us not forget pacing, which is, of course, paramount.

>>714539941
None of them are. They're written like actual people instead of
>uguu~
>I fight for my friends
>KYAAA! HENTAI SENPAI!!
> I'd like to j-join the expedition too...if that's o-okay...

>>714548540
Clair Obscur does not have good pacing.

>>714547707
>Did you know if you took out the music
The music is trying very hard to be Yoko Shimamura music.

>>714548954
>>uguu~
Sciel
>>I fight for my friends
Lune
>>KYAAA! HENTAI SENPAI!!
Sophie
>> I'd like to j-join the expedition too...if that's o-okay...
Maelle

>>714550096
Nope, nope, nope and nope.

>>714529906
Aerith is a useless side character while Gustave is the fucking MC. It's comparable to Cloud dying, not Aerirrelevant. The story can move forward to a good ending without Aerith. The story goes straight to two bad endings with the loss of the hero.

Gustave didn't have any arc to follow and his aww shucks awkwardness would have gotten old by the end game.

>>714550937
>Gustave didn't have any arc to follow
We don't even know who the fuck rescued him, retard.

>>714550830
Gustave is no hero. He is just our lens into the world of Lumiere. If you think E33 has "two bad endings", and this was caused by Gustave's death.. you didn't get it. play it again.
>story can move to a good with Aeris dying
anon.. can you play the game again and actually pay attention?

>>714533694
Lumierians are real - in the context of the game. They are just as real as we are - in the context of real life. We create technology, form bonds, go on adventures and self perpetuate, same as them. Even Renoir acknowledges this - he finds it despicable to have to choose such an extreme eventuality but finds it necessary for Aline and Alicia. We could be Lumierians, but the key distinction is that our creator who can unalive us is merely unrevealed.

If a God shows up today and says he is killing everyone - how would you respond?

>>714524085 (OP)
Cheap Aerith rip-off.

>>714551254
>Gustave is no hero
Gustave is the only reason 33 makes it as far it does. Without Lumina Coverter Verso can't even beat the Dualist.
>If you think E33 has "two bad endings", and this was caused by Gustave's death..
It is. Which is why Verso gets Gustave killed. He knows his genocidal ending is impossible with Gustave still there. Best route simply has them fucking Renoir up first, then taking his Lumina and fighting Aline at the end to send the crazy bitch back. Aline isn't going to throw a death wave the second she holds control of the Canvas again like Renoir did.

>>714528909
A nice touch is how Renoir does the three blows with his cane.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trois_coups
He pretty much signals the end of Act I and poor Gustave by doing so.

The Dessendres ruined this fucking game. You have a dark continent style expedition into an alien world using your predecessor's sacrifices to build something for the future only to get hit by foidlsop family drama and it was le fake all along Eternal Sonata shit (which at least had the decency to not lead you on into thinking anything matters).

>>714552079
>The Dessendres ruined this fucking game

>>714552164
Writers should've killed them all. Total pa*nter death. Most hilariously evil antagonists I've ever seen in an rpg. Kefka is a fucking angel in comparison. Imagine how many universe they've destroyed over dumb shit.

>>714524085 (OP)
Never compare the french kino writing of Claire Obscure to Jap shitasy 7.

Japs can't write for shit.

>>714550830
>Gustave is the fucking MC
Maelle is very much the MC.

>>714524085 (OP)
I'm not reading that because I haven't played yet but I want to say I appreciate the spoiler tag

>>714525303
Jewish Post.

Go back to spamming BBC on /gif/

Sciel will let you cum inside of her
Lune will make you pull out

>>714550830
I think the more accurate analogy, funnily enough, is if Zack was the protagonist of FF7 but he dies at the end of disc 1 and is replaced by Cloud.

>Me? Lumiere!

>>714552356
The sad part is that FF7 is the narrative pinnacle of horizontal eye slits.

>>714550830
aerith death actually has impact because she is never replaced, while these cowards who made 33 wanted to have their aerith moment but didnt have the balls to fully commit so the literal replacement drops out of the sky 5 seconds after, its emberassing how it cheapens the death.

>>714553350
its obviously better than 33 shit of "omg it was all a dream and painting durrr and my mental health issues cause i am not pretty anymorrreeeee"

>>714524085 (OP)
Verso is a much better character

>>714553615
the ending is bad.

>>714553594
E33 isn’t all a dream. But Cloud in FF7 pulls the exact same thing as Verso does when he lies to the party the whole time.

>>714550830
This
Killing the protagonist is way more gutsy than killing a side character. Plus, Gustave is just a much better character than Aeris and his death was way cooler. He went out fighting like a badass.

>>714555346
That last Overcharge did impale the shit out of Renoir... if it wasn't for his ability to heal, Gustave would've been victorious...

>>714555762
Honestly that's what I love about the scene. The paintress and her creations are essentially gods who view the inhabitants of Lumiere as lemmings. But Gustave is a legit engineering genius, whose mechanical arm was powerful enough to briefly incapacitate Renoir. If you pay attention, Renoir actually flinches back when Gustave attacks him with Overcharge, like he wasn't expecting someone beneath him could strike with that much power.

>>714554892
no? cloud had PTSD and had to use Soldier mental cope. he was more alike Maelle in that regard.
Verso always had ulterior motives and manipulated the party constantly throughout the game.

>Artsy pretty boy gets the girls over the awkward engineer
hmm

>>714556080
And then we get a "Victory" screen, even. I was coping hard, thinking that maybe the tables have turned, but then the arm falls off... and then, there's the music. Kino.

>>714525486
Nonsense post

How come all the conversation around this game seems contrived? How come everything feels so contrived? Was I murdered, am I in a hell where the entirety of my surroundings are pandering algorithms?

>>714557589
>How come everything feels so contrived?
Maellejunkies don't post in good faith.

>>714528816
hasn't /v/ been like this for well over a decade anyhow?

>>714553502
To be fair, it still works, because then the players are immediately suspicious of Verso, because who is this guy and why is he replacing my Gustave?
Which is a good reaction to have given that it's Verso.

>>714524085 (OP)
I didn't know Pattinson was in this game

total painter death

>>714562390
>>714524085 (OP)
>aerith
>pattison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5QfU0m3gGA

>>714525303
second post best post
this kikeslop for women should be banned on sight

>>714524085 (OP)
I doubt that becaue Aerith's death has a lot of romanic and symbolic meaning tied to the main character Cloud. Gustave is or was the main character.

>>714525303
based. Get raped OP you faggot.

The demo looked good. Should I?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1715590/Wizordum/

>>714524085 (OP)
Garbage game

>>714525303
spbp