Thread 714589346

You ever just chilling and think damn gaming simply became bad one day and will never get better

Have sex

>>714589346 (OP)
The same epiphany happens with drugs and sex too if you overindulge in those as well. Nothing is ever enjoyable if it's not the exception to most of waking reality.

>>714589346 (OP)
is that pic suppose to be a reference to that one tails comic?

>>714589970
No

>>714590027
i think it is actually

>>714590086
You're wrong

>>714589346 (OP)
You ever just chilling and think damn ypu were a nigger one day and will never not be a nigger

Its an ever intrusive thought, but shit wont get better if we just wallow in our own pity, been getting into local game scene and so on to have some kind of impact.

Wow everything all got bad one day, it cant be that im jaded! Everything from movies/games/toys/cars/music/sports all went to shit the second i turned 17!

>>714590310
This nigga is too underage to ever witness an industry implode

>>714590310
Image easily deboonked by the fact
>movies obviously peaked 50+ years ago and were shit ever since
>music peaked in the 80s and only had minor resurgences in a sea of mediocrity since
>anime is still pretty fucking good though it's getting lower lows
>cartoons are on a sine wave, currently low but had a peak as recently as 10 years ago (with the previous peak being 20 years ago)

>>714590942
>fact
>just opinions that most people won't agree with
What did he mean by this

>>714590942
>music peaked in the 80s
yeah the 1800s

>>714591447
True, I was thinking of pop music

It would be tragic if I didn't have a treasure trove of older games to play and replay.

>>714590942
>>anime is still pretty fucking good though it's getting lower lows

Anime peaked in the 80s/90s. It's still ok but have been on a sharp decline since the 10s

>>714591725
moeslop with be the death of anime
anime girl fatigue is real

>>714589764
Redfall is great, and is just as fun as Dead Rising guyz consume product.

>>714590310
Lute playing is just as big in 2025 It's peaked there is no difference in quality!

>>714589346 (OP)
Because it's no longer made for you. I sued to have a chart illustrating this phenomenon, but I can't find it.
Basically when you're young, you fall in love with a thing. And as you grow, the thing improved and grows with you. Then eventually, all the creators of the thing either leave the industry, or move on to the next trend. The NEW thing is the focus now. And that new thing grows with a new generation. While your favorite thing becomes neglected.

That doesn't necessarily mean your thing is bad now. It's just not the trend anymore. And it doesn't necessarily mean that the new thing is bad either. It just fulfills a different purpose, not suiting your tastes.

It's a tough pill to swallow. That the thing you fell in love with, will never be developed further. Despite what potential it may contain. The masses just don't care for it anymore.

>>714591801
Moeshit has existed since the 80s.
Since the castle of cagliostro to be precise.

It's just the loss of craftmanship and aesthetics overall.
Most modern anime look terrible. They have flanderized themselves, especially the colors and chara design

>>714589346 (OP)
Every day since the Xbox One was revealed, yeah.

>>714592342
>It's a tough pill to swallow. That the thing you fell in love with, will never be developed further. Despite what potential it may contain. The masses just don't care for it anymore.
That's usually the fault of the developer, like Halo shouldn't be a dead franchise but it is.

>>714590367
Nigger, the crash only affected North America and it wasn't even because all the games were bad.

I'm having a blast

>>714589346 (OP)
Games are still good you just choose to play shit ones. Also giving yourself a break to do other stuff is ok too

>>714593276
True. The reason why good things die, is that everyone is trend chasing. Everyone wants to know what the next batch of 10 year olds wants, so they can serve it to them. They know that kids are malleable, so you can introduce new trends to them, instead of competing with established trends. Why convince the next batch of 10 year olds that your Halo clone is fun, when you really can't compete with Halo? You're better off creating a new and different kind of shooter, and convincing them that Halo is the boomer old game, and your shooter is the tuff new game.

>>714589346 (OP)
>You ever just chilling and think damn gaming simply became bad one day and will never get better
It wasnt a day, it was a generation. by the time mw2 came out, things were already set in motion. Casual players would continue to buy COD each year as well as other causal games like fifa and 2k. year after year, a whole generation was groomed by the industry to spend more and more for less and less. simultaneously the mobile games market began to explode. eventually microtransactions would move into console gaming ensuring the death of gaming. now kids grow up fully entrenched in this environment, completely used to being nickle and dimed for digital garbage

>>714591725
>>714593107
Visually, yeah anime peaked long ago, writing-wise a lot of my favorite anime is from the last 15 years

>>714590157
How do we know this is real life?

>>714589346 (OP)
Apply to all media/entertainment - mystery solved. Started a little more than a decade ago, around "Occupy".

>>714592179
Why are they so obsessed with this face

>>714593379
I'm not talking about the crash, I'm not even talking about effects visible on industry spreadsheets, I'm talking about the life cycle phenomenon of every industry under capitalism, that starts with a wild west period where everyone is competing for quality and innovation, a settling period where everyone starts following the leader, and then a stagnation period where fucking nothing good is happening yet billions are being raked in anyway

Every single industry experiences this, from tech hardware like smartphones that went from getting crazy new upgrades ever year for crazy cheap to being $1000+ black glass rectangles with identical functionality, to media like superhero movies or isekai anime which went from being industry shakers to the conveyor belt slop they are today

Games had a golden age period from the early 90s to the mid 2000s where crazy innovation and creativity was happening every year and devs and publishers were competing on who can provide a better product and service, to being the dystopian casinos, predatory services, and overpriced derivative garbage (including fucking indies) they are today, and that's something we can never undo even if there's a handful of good games a year

>>714597664
So what happens after thr stagnation period?

>>714590310
Neither book nor movies peaked during that time period though.

Only vidya and TV

>>714590310
Except it's the objective truth in my case.

>>714589346 (OP)
Why dont you faggots just accept you grew up to be bitter, dull adults who have to hate on everything new?
You are not a teen anymore, just fucking accept it fucking boomers

>>714598323
Why don't you faggots just accept you grew up in the dark age of games, and have to love on everything new to cope?
Games are not good anymore, just accept it fucking zoomers

>>714595864
Gib some recs, anon

>>714598323
It'll happen to you!

I still play and enjoy relatively new games
We wont get the nonstop classics of the xbox 360 era anymore, but there's still good shit coming out. Particularly in the indie and AA spaces.

>>714589346 (OP)
I've reached the point where I don't even think coming to /v/ is as fun as it used to be either. In order to have fun shitposting and talking about games, you have to really be into the modern and current gaming landscape. For what its worth, /v/ is for discussion of current generation video games with a sprinkle of having one generation back (so PS5, Xbox Series X|S, PC, Nintendo Switch 2, PS4, Xbox One, and OG Nintendo Switch for the most part). I really do not care about these so I'm just kind of floating around here. Since I know the PS6 and last Xbox aren't going to do anything interesting or innovative from their consoles, I really don't know why I'm still here instead of on /vr/ or something other than /v/ being more active.

>>714589346 (OP)
Yes. A lot.

>>714599081
>Openly admitting that you gargle slop
Have you no decency?

>play only AAA games
>liek OMGGG y r games so bad naow?!?!

>>714598323
I don't hate everything new. I only hate the new things that need a day one patch, are poorly optimized and have half the game locked behind dlc.

>>714589346 (OP)
Naw, I don't play AAA.

no because gaming is still great. you're just a jaded piece of shit. take a couple years off gaming and come back later

>>714598323
>stop forming patterns, and stop remembering things you see and are told, so new thing can be good
jej

>>714599143
>(so PS5, Xbox Series X|S, PC, Nintendo Switch 2, PS4, Xbox One, and OG Nintendo Switch for the most part). I really do not care about these
Slight amendment. I care about PC, but most people here don't talk much about games on PC unless they are also a hot console versions of it (namely PlayStation and sometimes Xbox versions).

>>714599364
Im not playing the latest zoomer craze so I dont see it as slop
Recently enjoyed Nine Sols, Lies of P DLC, EDF 5, and Intravenous 2.
Stay mad

>>714599484
As if indie slop is any better

>>714600046
>slop slop slop
What does you being a newfag nigger have to do with video games?

>>714599982
You referred to the 360 era as the golden age dumbass

>>714600046
It is indeed - there's usually a lot more creativity and new udeas on display there in comparison to AAA
>b-but le slop!!!
Learn to justify your opinions better, bugman

>>714599982
You're not helping your case.

Nintendo is the only dev remaining that puts out good AAA games. The rest are normieslop, for lack of a better word.

Indie devs are still doing fine too, for the most part.

>>714600196
Pee is better than poo but that doesn't make it better than gold

>>714600278
Nintendo hasn't put out a good game since the GameCube (I don't count DKCR as Nintendo games)

>>714600187
Wouldn't call it the golden age but it was probably the last time we will ever see consistent AAA games releasing on a reasonable budget and within a short time of one another.
I'm still liking newer games though, bozo

>>714590310
I just feel bad for zoomers that experienced everything at its most mainstream and milked that refuse to look into the past for inspiration and entertainment, and I have zero fucking hope for whatever generation has to suffer through industrial AI slop movies and games.

>>714600261
Why not? Have you played those games to have justifications for why i shouldn't enjoy them?

>>714600414
>fag raised on shit games enjoys new shit games
No surprises there

>>714600501
No, I just want you to feel bad about yourself because you don't deserve to be happy. You know why.

>>714590310
Maybe they WERE onto something... woah....

great games from the past few years off the top of my head
>lies of p
>witchspring r
>octopath traveler 2
>kai no kiseki
>expedition 33
>nine sols
>stellar blade
>unicorn overlord
>ff7 rebirth
>p3r
>metaphor
>smt v vengeance
>granblue relink
>romancing saga 2 remake
>nanoapostle
>reverse collapse codename bakery
>ys x
>infinite wealth
>wukong
>the man who erased his name
>split fiction
yeah i'm still having just as much fun as always.

>>714600572
You're not doing a good job then anon. Imma keep playing my video games and enjoying them while balancing it out with a healthy social life and physical activity :)
>you know why
Because it's /v/ and you need to fit in?

>>714600505
What games do you like, shitpost-kun?

>>714600658
You're too young to understand what anons mean by "GAMING used to be good" and how having handfuls of individual good games that are exceptions isn't the same thing

>>714600737
And he's a larper? Jfc, you're an embarrassment.

>>714600896
Shit games always existed

>>714600896
>You're too young to understand
lol.

>>714601026
Again you fail to grasp the idea of an industry that's overwhelmingly good where stinkers and disappointments are the exception, you can't even comprehend that something like that used to exist

>>714601480
because it's not true you retard. games have always been mostly shovelware.

>>714601580
And not only are your unable to imagine it, you refuse to even engage with it as a thing that could exist in order to cope with your sad everyday existence

>>714601480
You are an underaged retard LARPing as an oldfag
Or just a jaded retard

>>714601480
>an industry that's overwhelmingly good
There has not been a single console gen where the majority of games released were good ones
Previous console gens had higher output of games overall since the budgets and graphical expectations were lower, which allowed the good games to more easily set itself apart from the shit ones.
But the majority if games released on any system were shovelware - I'd say the 6th gen probably had the highest ratio of good to bad games

>>714601712
>zoomer afraid to entertain the idea of a games industry that isn't constantly trying to rape him up the ass in order to preserve his fragile world view

>>714600849
>no reply
Shocking, i tell you

>>714589346 (OP)
yep. finally selling my rig after having one for 17 years. everything I want to play pre-2014 can run on a laptop iGPU now. it's time for me to become old and crotchety.

>>714601701
i'm likely older than you, dipshit

ITT: newfags arguing with newfags

>>714600849
>>714602068
NTA, but he simply isn't falling for your bad faith bait

>>714601984
Monetization today is worse, no doubt
But saying that retro console gens were "overwhelmingly good" is retarded
You can hold both these ideals simultaneously if you try
>>714602152
Welcome to /v/ - first time here?

>>714590310
Everything peaked like 50 years before I was born.

>>714602260
>all games today are SHIT!!!
>well what games do you like?
>B-BAD FAITH!!!
kwab

>>714589764
hedonic treadmill

>>714589346 (OP)
No. Honestly I think gaming is better than before. I'm 34 and I think gaming was pretty shit back then. But my favorite genre where rts and tycoon games and there was a time where that genre was pretty much dead. I'm not saying they are all gems but I find more than enough good stuff or at least the community is still active.

>>714593276
Halo was what made FPS shit it desvers to die.

>>714590310
Yup this perfectly explains why every mid-late zoomer and alpha I see looks at the 80s-00s and cries that they never experienced it condemning their own

>>714592342
Then why are even the kids spending less on video games now?

>>714589346 (OP)
Yeah
That was 2007

>>714603141
Because they don't need to. Gaming used to be social. You had to go either go somewhere or go to someone to play games. Generally in order to have fun and get your social fulfillment you had to go out. You don't need to do that anymore. You can just chat online and not worry or watch someone else play it for you. Even if you do play you don't have to go out since online connects you instantly.

>>714603141
Probably because F2P shit is a lot easier to spend all day on and you dont need mom or dad's card for it

>>714602106
Obviously not if you can't remember a time when gaming was good

>>714603618
when did i say that, retard?

>>714590310
if you want to make this lazy nigger argument then at least back it up
compare 2000's era cartoons to current cartoons and tell me how they've improved. GO!
compare 2000's era vidya to current vidya and tell me how they've gotten btter. GO!
compare movies and tv shows from 50 years ago to post-modern hollywood slop and tell me how they've gotten better. GO!

if media wasnt at their peak back then uhhh why do we keep regurgitating old shit? why didnt they have a billion remasters/remakes in the PS2 era?

>>714603141
Devastated economy.

>>714589346 (OP)
>Redditbob
Go back

>>714604501
Nigga everybody fucks with SpongeBob, quit being weird

>>714589346 (OP)
I can pin point the exact moment it happened to me. It was when i first experience the infamous meat your match update on Team fortress 2. TF2 was the greatest most fun I ever had with video games and those fucks were able to kill almost everything good about it in a single stroke. the update was so bad it killed the community here in south america.

I really don't understand how people just make the same old tired "lol nostalgia goggles" argument. Like did you niggers forget that America went into a massive fucking recession in the late 2000's? List a bunch of old games that weren't made by big studios. I bet half of the studios that made them either went defunct/bankrupt or got bought out.
With the smaller dev teams out of the way, AAA companies control most of the gaming market. Since they have no competition, they do whatever the fuck they want and if you're not a soulless golem that plays slop, your only option is to play unambitious indie games.

>>714601580
>>714601950
>>714602309
muh shovelware is the only cope zoomers have, as if the existence of subpar games you could fully ignore simply by walking past the clearance bins and never have to see or hear about again somehow negates the fact
>AAA games were good by default basically
>hyped AAA sequels almost always delivered on hype or more
>AAA and AA games had passionate in-house game designers and artists making them soulful as outsourcing wasn't nearly as developed
>new AAA and AA games were guaranteed to have game design innovations, experimentation, and better graphics compared to past games
>AAA games took 1-2 years to make, AA games even less meaning every month had meaningful releases
>AAA and AA games were competing on who can create the better game and experience for the consumer
>games couldn't monetize past the point of sale and had to be full experiences on release
>games couldn't be patched post release and had to work on release or face forever being known as broken
>dev studios were small closely knit groups of like-minded individuals who liked games to the point of having to be pioneers in hardware and software
>ONLY people who liked games were making games
>one game failing couldn't kill a studio
>every genre was alive and getting innovative games constantly
>good art and music was basically a given regardless of dev or genre
>devs told grifters trying to insert themselves into the industry to fuck off
>devs were inventing mechanics, genres, premises, ideas left and right instead of regurgitating old stuff
>devs came up with ideas in a vacuum instead of being able to pander to online trends, social media consensus, ecelebs, streamers, video essayists etc
>ever console generation was a crazy tech jump that blew everyone's minds each time
>physical media you owned
>etc
Now good new games are a fluke, no new generation will ever know what it's like to hear about a new game or console and know it'll be good and do something new

>>714605647
>>AAA games were good by default basically
Not reading beyond that - you are undoubtedly a retard

>>714606059
Brown zoomers can't cope

>>714606059
>he read beyond 'cope'
My mind instantly filters out newfaggotry.

>>714606321
>actually you're the newfaggot for being old enough to remember the way things were
Cope more

>>714589346 (OP)
Yep

>>714605647
The majority of those games on the right would be considered shit if they released today

>>714606696
Most of them are considered classics, but obviously the feeling of "you had to be there" is a factor, L'Arrivée d'un train en gare de La Ciotat is boring as fuck today but was mind blowing when it was first shown, but one of the reasons it's mundane today is the fact IT released back then, just like the fact those games on the right releasing back then means standards today are even higher than they would've been without them

There are no similar vidya experiences today, we've been stuck on gen 7 tier games for 20 years

>>714605647
I agree with pretty much all these points, but if your final takeaway is the same as OPs and you think gaming as a whole is bad then I'd disagree.
AAA gaming is in a race to the bottom of live service flops and layoffs, but smaller devs and studios can do quite well for themselves and make very enjoyable games. And as long as there is still fun new shit to play then my gaming PC will stay firmly rooted where it is

Industry on its way to collapse anyway. Not a total crash like 2008 but a big changes will happen that reshape the market. No guarantee that the changes will be good though.
>constant layoffs
>constant studio closures
>constant projetc cancelations
>balooning budgets while the market' growths slowsdown
>gpu and cpu market slowsdown
>aa and indies outperform aaa
Shame about GTA 6. This shit will delay collapse for at least 6-10 years more due to its massive success.

Also, fun thing for consideration: GAAS games are competeing with themselves since they're based on the idea of taking all free time of the players so introducing new games becomes harder and harder. Suits got themselves into a corner chasing this trend.

>>714607404
If you can recognize those points used to be true, and observe they're not the case anymore with nothing good and new to replace them, that's basically the point of the OP, the industry as a whole went from being an optimistic place full of enthusiasts firing on all cylinders to constantly make some of the best games, IPs, and genres of all time, to being just another medium where standout games were exceptions from the stagnant predatory norm (both at AAA and indie levels)

>>714589346 (OP)
Occasionally.
Even those very few games that release that I think are decent end up actually being shit or mediocre.
I'll just stick to the backlog of older games.

>>714603076
>see looks at the 80s-00s and cries that they never experienced it condemning their own
Every generation does this, i saw millennials wishing they grew up in the 70s-80s