Thread 714601836

Do you think this game will be better than mario kart world?

>>714601836 (OP)
No

>>714601836 (OP)
Not really.

Personally, since there’s less actual tracks and none of them seem that fun to play on, I’d say no

>>714601836 (OP)
Not likely

>>714602086
There's a comparable amount though. World has 32 with two variants and CrossWorlds has 24 plus 6 extra ones through DLC. I wish the CrossWorlds could be fill tracks and I hope they can be raced on themselves somehow because if so that adds to the count since that's another 15 and every track is looking to be different aesthetically

>>714601836 (OP)
Probably. I don't like either though so I don't care to compare too much in detail. However the posters ITT are genuine jewtendo glazers if they can't at least admit MK World is so boring even a mid game like this would be better. Either way, fuck them both and fuck /v/edditors

>>714603073
>says he doesn’t like either
>immediately accuses people of being glazers for thinking crossworlds looks worse
Why’d you out yourself so fast

>>714601836 (OP)
>Has actual ranks online with rewards
>Will have big events online to earn points for a team of your choosing against 2 other teams
>Full car/extreme gear customization
>Online grand prix where your character has an actual victory screen
Yeah it will be better than Mario Kart World and don't let anyone try to convince you otherwise.

>>714601836 (OP)
>Racers have exactly 2 soundbytes that they repeat constantly
this alone will ruin the game. watch any footage, its all sonic going YEAH, COOL nonstop its really fucking annoying.

Reminder that none of the guest racers even have voiced lines. The game’s THAT much of a lazy cashgrab.

>>714603371
These would be cool… if the tracks were any good

>>714603730
wait, they brought in Miku, and DIDN'T EVEN VOICE HER? Like you don't even need to hire someone, just use Vocaloid for it.... jesus that's lazy.

I have crossover slop fatigue

>>714603730
>>714603796
Factually untrue

>>714603796
>>714603730
They will but they won't do the trash talk rival thing. So Miku can't call Espio a sperg or something

>>714603880
>>714603912
They just enjoy making shit up
https://youtu.be/3_xAuG3JfIg?t=39

>>714603946
ah so Miku is voiced, but Ichiban and Joker aren't, that's still pretty bad.

>>714604083
They're coming later than she is so they're likely going to have voice lines in the final product.

>>714603274
He asked if it would be better, not if it's good or if being better than a low-bar piece of shit makes anything more than mid. /v/edditors can't think outside of very very simple "Yes" or "No", you hate using your brains

>>714601836 (OP)
the bar is low but nah

>>714604083
Crossover characters will be added with time, I wouldn't expect all 3 to release day 1

>>714604215
Still seems like you’re just pissy that people think mario kart is better and you’re trying to hide it

Wait...Mario Kart World doesn't have a character victory screen when they win a cup? that's pretty lazy

>>714604375
Well that's because you're stupid

>>714604437
It does. I'm glad they brought it back because it's the only weird thing 8 was missing

>>714604551
Well, now you’ve kind of proved it

>>714604619
see >>714604215

>>714601836 (OP)
I played that first closed test and plenty can happen since, but frankly? Nah. Mario is a pack-in game people would eat up by the droves because Nintendo and Mario Kart, Sonic Racing has never compared a single time, but even worse, the game just seems like a rather tangled mess of ideas and mechanics.
>a dozen items to hit people with
>a bunch of "skill-based" protective items
>kart customization that actually significantly changes the entire handling model
>skills you have to play the game a bit to get full use of, and then you're able to specialize builds that turn your specialty into an overpowered advantage but makes you dogshit outside of it
It's a fucking kart racer, why is there so much shit slammed together trying to be some overly convoluted counter-play game?

>>714604592
The victory animations at the end of a race in general seem way better than 8

>>714603880
Facts, dear Sancho, are the enemy of truth.

>>714604592
>>714604778
I'm talking about podium animations
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6DqdDZAy09A

>>714604747
Really? Seems a little too simple in my opinion, tracks are way more simple than past sonic racing games and a lot of past mechanics seem to be either neutered or gone entirely

>>714604949
In the test, the tracks weren't really much to write home about besides the museum having some sharp turns and big obstacles. But the whole thing focuses an absurd amount on pre-race prep for what sort of racing style you want, and if you think Mario Kart item spam can be bad, you couldn't go five seconds in the lead or the middle of the pack without shit flying everywhere. Heavily weighted carnage out the ass, people frequently getting All-Star modes to tear the groups apart, a ton of auto-hit items. It was easily the biggest complaint of the test, because otherwise the kart racing gameplay at its core is the most vanilla milquetoast thing out there, and not even as responsive as Transformed.

>>714605248
Now that I think about it, the game is in a sort of damned if you, damned if you don’t situation in regards to its items as if they keep the items the same, the game will remain a chaotic mess but if you nerf them, more of the actual cracks in the game show like the abysmal track design

>>714601836 (OP)
Yeah, that's why I pre-ordered it

>>714605248
They designed the game around no items initially so I can see them having a way to disable some or all of them. Plus in new footage from last month the item spam is toned way down
>>714604872
Then no, it's just the characters celebrating in their cars and driving on the track like 7 while they show who the top 3 spots were

>>714605661
>they designed the game arounds no items at first
Then why do the courses look so bland

>>714605575
That's why I suggested a difference between casual and ranked in my survey where casual races have the items be plentiful and chaotic and ranked has a lower item pool of skill based items only
>>714605770
They were fine to me. I also like how tight the turns were compared to like TSR where the track design was so wide (I could understand it in Transformed since you move much faster in that game)

>>714605770
They haven't shown all the courses yet

>>714603371
>it's better because it will have points and fomo shit that you can grind as if it was a job
????

>>714601836 (OP)
if it's as good as SASRT, yeah sure

>>714606182
>ugh...things to do online? that sucks! it shouldn't have anything!
lol u can't be srs kid

>>714606256
Nothing from the online really seems that much regular racing other than the FOMO like what >>714606182 said

>>714606256
>>ugh...things to do online?
Both games have stuff to do online. With or without rank rewards, cycling battlepasses, and other FOMO shit.
You think "things to do" is defined by limited-timed-reward grind?

>>714606053
I don’t have much hope from what I’ve seen

>>714601836 (OP)
>Mario Kart World get shat on for the intermission forcing every maps to have 1 lap
>Sanic shitworlds has forced intermission every lap to random locations and it's an actual part of the track so you'll never ever be able to do more than 1 lap without bullshit
Nha it's 10 times worse

>>714606409
>>714606497
You seem to be suffering from hallucinations, wheres the fomo?

>>714606548
Theres no such thing as intermission laps, the crossworld mechanic just changes the track for one lap and it can be turned off.

>>714606590
>limited time online event
>rewards tied to the event
>the event ends
>lol you didn't get the rewards before the event ended? Sucks to be you!
What do you mean? Is this not the kind of online bullshit the game will run with? It's hardly unique, but that doesn't mean this kind of crap is desirable.

>>714603073
Cope.

>>714606795
Oh god it's CTR all over again

>>714606795
You're just making shit up to be upset right now, there are no details at all about the events or rewards they alluded to and you don't even know if they wouldn't recycle events or anything, do you enjoy making situations up in your head to be upset for no reason?

>>714606961
>there are no details at all about the events or rewards they alluded to
What else could it fucking be?

>>714606961
>you don't even know if they wouldn't recycle events or anything
No one said anything about event recycling. But if the events never end then they aren't events. So they will be swapped out for new ones.

>>714607332
I dunno I'm not a Sonic Team employee, I'll wait and see

>$90
>Non-sonic characters not voiced
Garfield Kart is more polished than this shit.

>>714607479
retard
>>714603880
>>714603946

>>714605661
>a kart racer with items
If they're retarded enough to think that this is a good idea in the first place, it says a lot about the people working on it.

>>714603880
retard

>>714607628
0 reading comprehension, read the question again.

>>714607479
>90$
are you retarded?

>>714605248

>gameplay worse than Transformed 12 years ago

This is kind of impressive

>season passes include tracks

how will this affect online?

>>714609152
honestly i couldn't really play without a tails technical kart. sonic and amy type karts felt like slidey dogshit that couldn't really even do a simple turn without a drift.

>>714609307
why wouldnt you drift in a kart game?
are you one of those retards who just hold r2 and never drift boost?

>>714609390
you're missing the point. that means you can't really turn worth a damn, angle yourself on a straightaway, or do much of anything all that tightly without specifically making a kart for it since the default speed gist has no grip. of course you drift boost, you tard, but if you got no grip, those drifts feel even worse.

>>714601836 (OP)
Yes. Its already looking to be.

>>714609159
Same way Mario Kart 8 handled it probably

>>714609159
>Pack 5 has 4 racers in it
Must be something important to get 4 racers

Last sonic racing game i played was all star racing and it fun. Should i get this on steam?

>>714610197
Try Transformed, a pretty big package of its own even if the online isn't really populated anymore. Most people generally consider it better besides the loss of certain karts (no Shadow bike) and tracks, but has plenty of its own variety to make up for it.
If you're really itching for this one, wait to see how it pulls out rather than buying in pre-emptively, the full price and DLC plans is asking a bit much. I say this as an overeager retard that preordered Shinobi.

>>714601836 (OP)
The portal mechanic seems annoying in that the music will get interrupted constantly.

>>714610480
What was wrong with shinobi

>>714610480
I think the online population is the reason why im waiting for his one + the new game feel. Is the gameplay not basically transformed but better? I skipped transformed but i see it gets a lot of praise. New characters seem fun too (I wish they added Mephiles and Black Doom to cross worlds)

>>714609807
which is? I dont play 600€ for nintendo garbage

>>714610561
You can disable the CrossWorld laps

>>714610189
could that be the TMNT pack?

>>714610728
I forgot...but I think you just won't be able to pick the dlc tracks but will still be able to race in lobbies that pick them, I don't remember getting kicked out of lobbies in 8

>>714602086
There are basically the same amount of tracks, probably more cus of the crossworlds mechanic and the ability to disable the crossworld mechanic.
Also Crossworlds will be at the Esports world cup.

>>714610675
It's not even out yet, I'm just a hypocrite for pre-order hype and culture. Nothing inherently wrong with it yet as far as I know, unless you don't like explorative stage design.

>>714610687
It's kind of using the basis Transformed set into stone, transforming karts between road, air and water, but its by Sonic Team internally rather than Sumo Digital who worked on All-Stars and Transformed, so it's inherently a totally different game feel and design philosophy. If you're a fan of All-Stars attributing a lot of stuff to Sega as a whole then you'll see plenty more of it with Transformed (the Skies of Arcadia developers actually cried at seeing an HD representation of their game as one of the tracks), this game is a lot more Sonic focused besides the DLC collab stuff. We've only had one closed beta test for PS5 and word of mouth second hand from people trying things a month ago, so it's hard to gauge how Crossworlds will turn out still.

I can genuinely say you should probably skip Team Racing, though. Dull as dishwater besides some good music, a crummy over-reliance on teamplay systems where the AI can tank entire races for you by misfortune, also-dead online, and gachapon customization rewards so you can't really prioritize what you wanna build with the customization.

>>714611053
at the WHAT

>>714610789
Sweet. I assume that it won't be the case in online, though.

>>714610797
Oh yeah, that makes a lot of sense

Why does Sonic need a car?

>>714611308
Maybe you can do it in private lobbies with friends but yeah I don't think you can do that with quickmatches

>>714611138
The Esports World Cup

>>714611541
To keep him from jumping. If he were allowed to hop and roll he'd be OP.

>>714601836 (OP)
bump

>>714601836 (OP)
After playing world a lot, it is actually possible for sonic to be a legit contender. If it manages to have really engaging driving, with good items and track design. It's the best shot sega has ever had to carve out a bigger piece of the kart race genre.

>>714601836 (OP)
It's not made from modern Nintendo, and Sega has established a status quo of doing whatever the fuck they want whether it's a good idea or not, so it at least has anywhere from a decent to pretty good chance, depending on how you perceive modern gaming, either as a industry on the macro, or games themselves in the micro

>>714603371
Truth Nuke.
>>714603793
They are good, fatty.

>>714606182
>"NOOO STOP GIVING ME OPTIONS AND FUN THINGS TO DO!"
kill yourself

>>714615141
Oh hey, fatty, still shilling crossworlds like a good little bootlicker I see

>>714614395
>If it manages to have really engaging driving, with good items and track design.
So no

>>714615367
>Tendie calling anyone else a boot licker
Enjoying your botfilled lobbies and straight lines that much are you?

>>714601836 (OP)
Yes

>>714615529
>saying this as a sonic fan
Excited for your boring tracks with no shortcuts, obstacles, or anything of interest that much, kid?

>>714603880
>Lying for Sonic

>>714605770
>Then why do the courses look so bland

Sonic Team developed it, they have no real comprehension of good level design

>>714615242
Why does your options need to be time gated?

>>714616051
It's taken from this article who got more details on the season pass characters
https://en.as.com/meristation/news/sonic-racing-crossworlds-adds-leaked-spongebob-and-patrick-with-avatar-and-tmnt-coming-later-to-the-game-n/

>>714604747
>It's a fucking kart racer, why is there so much shit slammed together trying to be some overly convoluted counter-play game?

Typically overly convoluted mechanics are a sticking plaster for fundamentally unfun or poorly designed gameplay.

>>714611552
Seriously? Why? I don't think there's even a Mario Kart major competitive tourney that's ever taken place.

>>714616459
>fundamentally unfun or poorly designed gameplay

so mario kart world?

I really hate the sound engineering in this game. I don't know what it is. It just sounds fucking terrible to me. Somehow it sounds "soft" but extremely loud and noisy all the time.

>>714601836 (OP)
That a given, and that why retard will not play it (at least they will still buy it)

>>714601836 (OP)
>nintendo too up its own ass to make mario kart smash type 'EVERYONE IS HERE'
>they do it anyway but half ass it with their own generic Mario universe characters only
>Sonic just decides to steal the easy crossover idea and it's already looking better than Mario kart world
Why is Nintendo retarded?

>>714601836 (OP)
No skies of arcadia= it shit on arrival.

>>714602493
Actually, World only has 30 unique tracks, but 16 variants of those existing tracks, which would make up at least 46 total. And of course, that's not including the 202 routes between each track, even though some would like to forget them. For Crossworlds, if you combine the 25 normal tracks with the 15 crossworld tracks, that's at least 375 unique track combos, and that's not even taking the DLC tracks into account.

So if you wanna be pedantic, Mario Kart World has more unique tracks if you the open world into account, while Sonic Racing Crossworlds will technically have more track layouts total due to their new dimension-hopping mechanic.

>>714619205
Good point. I saw someone act like Mario Kart has like 300 tracks whereas Sonic has a fraction and I felt it was disingenuous but I hadn't done the math for CrossWorlds either

>>714620109
Yeah, even if you take the routes into account, Mario Kart World still only has 232 tracks. I'd count the 16 variants on their own, but they're route exclusive so you can't do 3-lap races on them.

>>714606053
>they just haven't SHOWN the good courses yet
wow, great sign

>>714620849
I liked some of the courses shown, liking stuff is subjective you know, pretty crazy but maybe it's time you found out about that.

I mean regular world online is currently in intermission hell so I'd say yeah probably.