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What games do guys like this play?

Pachinko

the target audience for gacha

>>714605368
lol he said chinko pffft

maybe japanese people are so broke because they buy everything out of vending machines.

>spend $5 for one can of stale coffee, instead of spending $10 on a 12 pack of it

>>714605169 (OP)
>15 hour work day
nigga wtf? come on

>>714605616
thats just city living, the rural areas are ghost towns and the cities are packed.

>>714605169 (OP)
just had this thread about this stupid webm a few hours ago

>>714605616
It's only 100 - 150 yen a can and they get restocked multiple times a day depending on how busy a particular location is

>>714605616
I've been drinking basic grocery store filter coffee at like 0.35 cents per cup for the last 20 years. Never even set a single foot at a Starbucks or some such.

>>714605616
japanese people will refuse to buy a fridge for groceries and eat konbini pre-made meals because "fridges are for fat americans"
same reason not a single japanese household owns an oven

>>714605667
Companies in Japan expect people to make their jobs their whole life. The worst part in Japan is that overtime work isn't payed. People are so bittered over that instead of changing the system they just expect you to conform and suffer like everyone else.

>>714605992
well most of their meals are plain rice, you dont want an oven

>soul crushing jobs that barely make ends meet and has you working more hours a day than you get to relax is only exclusive to Japan
What is this retarded shit, you get the exact same experience in America

>>714605935
>150 yen
That's the same price in most european countries, but they still opt for buying a jar of instant coffee instead because it's still cheaper

HONEST QUESTION: What is the minimum income needed to work in USA but have a familiy in rural Japan?

>>714606095
nobody said otherwise. He mentioned "this happens in japan", not "this happens only in japan"

>>714606179
I bet the intercontinental plane travel from work to home will contribute to 90% of the cost, what the fuck are you talking about working in the US and having a family in rural japan?

>>714606116
And why do you believe every single person in Japan only buys vending machine coffee instead of also buying pre-ground / instant like other countries?
UCC is a huge grocery store coffee brand in Japan

the whole birthrate problem is a symptom of having an educated middle class that is able to do family planning combined with them lacking enough wealth and free time to be comfortable starting a family
this is why poor people reproduce much faster

>>714606347
>And why do you believe every single person in Japan only buys vending machine coffee
I assumed so. Fair enough

>>714606179
Dream IT salary.
To do this, you need the digital nomad visa and that shit sets the minimal income at 10m yen/60k euro yearly.
Obviously fully remote work with flexible hours is a must.

I will save you Japanese women.

>>714605169 (OP)
The biggest red flag is the fucking time when he gets back home. Jesus Christ Japan, no wonder you don't have time to make children unless you're somewhat wealthy.

>>714606396
Birthrate problems are because of female level of education. It's the single stat that cuts through everything. Poor immigrants and white trash pop them out by the dozen in every country only, middle class career women say "we can't afford it, we don't have the time". Indians living 10 to a room still have them.

>>714606095
that literally does not happen in the USA at all, ever. thats like $3/hour.

>>714606728
>Indians living 10 to a room still have them
and you'd want your country to resemble India?
what's the point of having kids if you cannot afford to give them a quality upbringing?
just bringing more mouths and wageslaves into the world for the sake of it?

Japan has a lot of good programs/benefits if you live in more rural areas. Like the Gov literally gives Japanese married people free houses in smaller town so they don't die out. For some reason the people have an obsession of living in Tokyo and working 16 hour days. It's funny because there was a video on youtube awhile ago showing white farmers with their Japanese wives living in two story houses near a town with around 10k people.

Not that I'd move to Japan, the people are cringe, andI grew up on a farm and hated it.

>>714605169 (OP)
>7:00 to 22:00 outside your home
no wonder people decide to live in one of those internet cafes when you're paying full rent for a home you spend maybe 2 hours of your waking time a day. How the fuck hasn't there been a single civil war in modern japan yet?

>>714605616
I don't even think Japan has something equilvalent to a sams club where you can buy bulk stuff much cheaper compared to grocery stores. They don't even have space for long term food storage.

>>714606787
The cost of living is different between America/Japan but the point still stands. Working a garbage job in New York that barely gets you enough to support yourself is the same as OPs pic living in Tokyo

>>714605169 (OP)
>starts the video showing he has ocd

How retarded are japs?
As soon as I hit my 8th hour at work I shut down my PC and get the fuck out. Literally done with work, ain't getting paid for more.

>>714605169 (OP)
>full time office job
>$1500 a month
Intern? Entry level data entry? I used to make that much, 1500 take home, in a 20hr/week retail job.

>>714606095
This happens in the USA. You just don't get the hours like Japan. You can mostly get shitty $12 an hour jobs that at the most give you like 10-20 hours a week. If you survive this way you'd have to work multiple jobs and you end up working around the same amount of hours as a nip.

>>714605938
Thanks for sharing

>>714606868
My point is birthrate has nothing to do with what people say is the issue. If these subhumans are willing to do it, it shows it's possible. People just don't want to give up their quality of life so they substitute in a cat or dog. And this is always from a couple where the woman is in a proper career. Stay at home mums and ones with simple jobs want kids if they husband is earning a decent wage.

>>714607079
>everyone at work hates you now
>if there's ever a layoff, you're the first to get throw out
>your job sabotages your job qualifications and makes sure you're blacklisted from every other position for the rest of your life
peer-pressure taken to the extreme

>>714605616
>stop eating avocado toast
Missing the point entirely.

>>714607295
I haven't eaten an avocado in a decade, get over yourself

>>714607354
Somehow you missed two points, consecutively. Impressive stupidity on display here.

>>714607226
>If these subhumans are willing to do it, it shows it's possible
doesn't mean it's a good idea though
>Stay at home mums and ones with simple jobs want kids if they husband is earning a decent wage
that's part of the issue, most people do not earn a "decent wage", and nowhere near enough to support a whole family on a single income

>>714607267
>everyone hates you now
Not my problem, I don't rely on others for work.
>Layoff
I live in Europe so I sue them and win massive cashmoney.
>Saotages your job qualifications
I sue any potential employer that doesn't hire me without giving me a good reason.
Easy as.

>>714607226
>If these subhumans are willing to do it, it shows it's possible
it's possible to do meth for 40 years and still be kicking.

>>714605169 (OP)
>What games do guys like this play?

>>714605169 (OP)
>says in dollarinos for the ustard audience
Yeah but everything is dirt cheap over there.
Like that number is meaningless unless you get the cost of living.
What a stupid bait video.

>>714607354
>>714607135

>>714607514
we're talking about japan, not europe

>>714607119
>I used to make that much, 1500 take home, in a 20hr/week retail job.
That's because you were born in the Tutorial Area, anon.
Japanese grind their entire childhood away to get anything more than 3mil yen a year job with unpaid overtime, no sick leave, 5 assured paid holidays (work laws mandate 10, but the employer only has to make you take 5 of them).
1500 is more than what the ATLUS new hires get after 4 years of uni.

pretty sure the data shows Americans actually work more hours and kill themselves more than Japan
american exceptionalism strikes again

>>714607575
Probably LoL

>>714607295
Hey did you know that you'll have more money if you save your money instead of spending it all?

>NOOO STOP TELLING ME THAT MAKE A DIFFERENT SUGGESTION

>>714607575
this frame infuriates me the most. Just how he looks. It screams "manchild" in it's full definition: an 8 year old boy stuck in a 30 year old's boy
yeah i know I got my board link in the image I don't give a fuck

>>714607720
Americans also pay more for certain services individually than Japanese do due to Japanese government social programs
The obvious example being health insurance

>>714607428
>doesn't mean it's a good idea though
Never said it was, but people really overstate how easy it was back in the day. Outside of the postwar period in select countries it was not easy raising kids. It's a massive massive sacrifice and high IQ people know that so they'll dance around the issue and say it's because they don't earn enough but the reality is that they just aren't willing to take the lifestyle hit that everyone else is willing to take. They do earn enough they just don't earn what they want.
>hat's part of the issue, most people do not earn a "decent wage", and nowhere near enough to support a whole family on a single income
I live in one of the poorest parts of the UK, consistently ranked low in all outcomes of life and I see low IQ retards breeding all the time and being able to sustain it. Chavs who will have everything on finance, have a holiday every year to ibiza etc and they manage to make ends meet. The GF typically stays at home or has some shitty job like retail or beautitian. They will no doubt get housing benefit but I have spoken to a few of them who decided for the wife to quit work because childcare would be too much. Meanwhile the couples in my family are entering 35y/o territory both parties earn a very good wage with careers, yet they have no kids despite being in a much more capable position to have them.
>it's possible to do meth for 40 years and still be kicking.
Having kids is a sacrifice and always has been, people don't want to give up their quality of life but blame it on other factors than just being honest.

>>714605616
Japanese ready to eat food is really cheap, almost as much if not cheaper than how it is in America if you bought all the ingredients separately and cooked your own meals
What fucks them are the nights out drinking with coworkers, indoor bbq's, and sushi, all of those are retardedly expensive and not worth the price at all but they gotta do it for "workplace cohesion" or whateverthefuck

>>714607819
>manchild
yes clearly, all his free time would disappear if he had a family. japan man is just a child, incapable of living his own life at all.

>>714607295
THe idea is that if you spend even $10 a day on worthless purchases like that, that alone would be nearly $4,000 a year. Multiply that by several other unnecessary purchases and you find that many people spend tens of thousands per year on things they could have gone without, made the same way at home, etc.

>>714607819
Kirjaimellisesti mä.

>>714608170
you're making too much sense. this will be the part where people who are shit with money will call you a boomer and start posting dave ramsey memes

>>714608170
>guy who works minimum wage eats $60 of chipotle everyday
>what le fuck why can't I save any money
A tale as old as time, but I think there's something wrong with the economy if everyone is expected to go full survival mode on beans and rice just to afford basic necessities

>>714606728
So what do you propose? Ban women from getting education? I don't like that idea at all.

>>714608170
same goes for media that can be easily pirated like games/movies/music, but that's too much of a bombshell for /v/ermin to handle and they will instantly turn to call me black in fear, even though I'm white as fuck.
>wastes money on steam/netflix/spotify
suffer eternally, I've save thousands of dollars by now

>>714608527
The point isn't to eat beans and rice or instant ramen every day, but to just cut back on how often you eat out. The problem also lies in how much fast food prices have gone up. If you could buy stuff off the dollar menu to fill up you could do that multiple times a week and only pay like 12 dollars. Not a single purchase from McDonald's costs 12 dollars

>>714608585
stop making everything so fucking expensive. I could sell an entire set of organs on the black market and still wouldn't be able to buy a house

>>714608810
>buy a house
*in the middle of a city

>>714608585
It'll take a few generations but if people refuse to marry and have kids with career-minded women, later generations of women will learn that if they want to have kids (and most women do), the odds are better if they don't pursue higher education

i wish more people would understand the appeal of living out in the middle of nowhere, off of a gas station income i have a fully paid off house, three cars, 40-50k in retro video games, and a healthy bank account. hell i even been looking to pick up a pinball machine sometime, maybe not the nearly $30k lot i saw today but at least one.

seriously living in an area you can afford changes everything.

>>714608880
>have to move to the middle of bumfuck nowhere away from friends family and work and live off-grid to afford a house
do you not understand where the problem is you can't even live in the suburbs of a big city anymore

>>714608979
former suburbs are now city, former rural is now suburbs. thats how it works.

I vill move to japan and I vill become a salaryman (focusing in accounting)

>>714607672
We had
>12 bank holidays
>36 days vacation
>36 sick days with full benefits
>98 days paternity leave
>employer pays 50% health care
>15EUR/HR entry position
>no highschool or college required
Feels almost like a socialist utopia compared to the US and especially japan.

>>714608979
honestly 5 minutes extra on highway is worth 20 minutes of city traffic, farther is shorter.

>>714608953
You have cause and effect backwards.
Higher education isn't what is making women not have children.
Women are pursuing higher education because of a general culture of not wanting to be homemakers and increased general ambition in the outside world, which tangentially connects to decreased fertility.

>>714609213
Shit, forgot
>1 month extra pay for christmas
>1 month extra pay for vacation

>>714609061
t.city dweller
surburbs remain as they are and so is rural, problem is you fucks want to live so hard in the city you simply refuse to go out of it and seek a better life, instead of you just complain all day and everyday about how hard it is to live in there while others who decided to fuck off suddenly live correctly in the surburbs while renting an appartment.
the closer you are to a huge town the more everything expensive become, just because there is too many damn fucking people in it, get that in your head. same shit with the jap in OP post, if he get the fuck out of tokyo and do a different job at the same pay he would have a family and two kids but noooo they want to live in their little rat cages because that's the only thing they know and are afraid of the rest.

>>714608170
4k a year is literally nothing? I keep forgetting 60% of this board is latinx

>>714609213
How good is Europe? Should I just move there? I have substantial wealth and income so life in America is pretty good but I have to see black people everyday and that upsets me greatly

>>714605996
Swefag here. This trend has started to infect our corpo culture as well. It started with paid overtime being replaced with time off. They then started to dictate when you can take your extra time, which now has turned into "You may take your extra time off WHEN it fits the company scheduling".

On paper you are technically getting compensation for the overtime, except the compensation is management pissing down your throat and telling you it's raining. I'm contemplating emigrating real soon, probably to Poland.

>>714607819
you're browsing /v/

>>714609567
anywhere they're not building skyscrapers (nobody is) the sprawl is real

>>714609601
>look at me i just blew 4k on random lmao
it's 4000 US$ missing from your bank account that could be placed into a saving account with an interrest rate, after a few years in turn into big money that you can use into something else that can generate even more money.
but you are too poor to know that so who cares.

>>714609842
>implying any other website is more sophisticated than this

>>714609981
poorfag cope

>>714609606
>substantial wealth and income
If you don't want to get raped on taxes your best bet would be czech republic. Only go further west if you don't mind trading a lot of wealth for a higher living standard.

>>714609606
>but I have to see black people everyday and that upsets me greatly
avoid EU member Nations. If they are a full member of the European Union they have had 'enrichment' up the ass for the last 30+ years.

>>714608974
>Grandpa had 3 mobile homes next to each other on a lake
>Lives alone, the rest are "guest houses"
>Dock with a boat, fishing all day
>Could shoot a deer off the back porch without rangers on your ass
>Closest actual grocery store was a 30min. drive
>Family sold the land soon after he died
Goddamnit I miss the woods so much I fucking at the city.

>>714605616
Not sure about Japan but in Taiwan it's actually MUCH more expensive to cook your own food. It's cheaper and normal to buy meals and coffee from convenience stores. I imagine Japan is somewhat similar.

>>714608974
The only real drawback since the late 90s up until around 2012 was that living in the middle of no where meant you were restricted to expensive sattelite internet and it was slow compared to broadband or cable. I think the speeds have gotten a lot better but you're still fucked on price. I just checked though and even a small town outside of Houston called carmine has better options. I didn't even realize fixed wireless became so big. Maybe those cell phone towers aren't so bad after all. Does anyone here have any sort cell phone internet plan?

>>714610295
>I think the speeds have gotten a lot better but you're still fucked on price.
probably in the US, i live in europe and use starlink, i have unlimited bandwith, good internet for a fixed price.
internet connexion is not an issue anymore

I will move to Japan, become a teacher, and marry a cute Japanese girl with nice tits

>>714610264
It's the economies of scale of mass producing for hyperdense cities

>>714610484
>become a teacher
English teachers are the lowest form of life there

>>714609567
Ehh, this sounds like boomer rhetoric. Most suburbs outside of the city apartment rent is still like 2k a month.some people don’t magically have the money to go live out in the countryside living the dream.

>>714610546
at least theyre not japanese

>>714610484
>become a teacher
you will marry the chinese/SEA 5th generation migrant woman with a flat face and you will love it

>>714610456
Yeah I need to get out of here. How do people work in these rural areas? They don't seriously drive 2 hours away for work do they?

>>714610151
This boomer mentality drives me up the fucking wall. Instead of securing a future for their kids they'd rather take a lump sum and blow it on short sighted comforts. Then they have the fucking nerve to lecture you on how hard they had it and how much they sacrificed.

I'm projecting a lot here but God I fucking hate boomers.

>>714610586
>flat face
Someone, post it

I think we should just consume less but that would require a massive paradigm shift and will never realistically happen

>>714610551
not him but the point is commuting, dirt cheap cost of living at the expense of a nice drive.

>>714610484
>become a teacher
You're barely a half-step above being a tourist in the eyes of Japanese

>>714610551
>outside of the city
what did i just say...
DO NOT LIVE NEAR THE CITY
how fucking complicated is that to understand?

>>714610151
i'm sandwiched between some decent towns and my house was just $65,000 in 2016, if you go more rural, especially western part of Nebraska you could probably get something pretty reasonable.

>>714610295
i got gigabit fiber internet full 1gig x 1gig in a town of 1,300 people.

>>714610618
I didn't save it

>>714610619
>I think we should just consume less
Very antisemitic post

I'm in my 30's and on track to return by the time I'm 45. Not going to have kids though, would much rather just live in the woods and play video games and fuck around with random hobbies until I die. That doesn't even account for the fact my parents have around 3 million they'll be passing onto me when they pass. Life is fucking good but I do wish I could retire now.

>>714610619
>I think we should just consume less
This is all well and good, but that would only apply to us and not to 'them'.

>>714610720
>That doesn't even account for the fact my parents have around 3 million they'll be passing onto me when they pass.
Senior care and late-year medical bills will eat up most of that 3million

>>714610643
I understand what he’s saying, but he acts like people can just up and move while they’re being raped paying for overpriced shitty apartments, when even outside of city living, most places still rape you even in the suburbs. My point is, it’s hard to even save up to do what you guys are suggesting now. If I had family I’d easily go live at home with my parents, save up, and get some place in the middle of nowhere, but I don’t.

>>714610619
>i think the middle class should suffer more

>>714610829
This, and remember that the taxman is going to grab his slice as well.

>>714605169 (OP)
dont worry theyre about to import 900,000 Nigerians to help with that falling labor rate as well as the declining birth rates!

>>714610829
You won't even be able to get medical care in the US in a couple years so the cost is irrelevant. Hospitals aren't even going to be open anymore.

>>714610858
if you're renting then why would you save up?

>>714610546
>>714610586
>>714610645
Better than being a soulless corporate slave

Plus I actually want to be a teacher

>>714611002
Nta but renting is not safe. Always have a buffer.

>hur dur how can i have kids when i am this poor
>reach 80+ years
>is abused/raped/beat by a indian/african "helper"
Only retards fall for this bait about "planning" to have kids, I already got 2 kids at 35 and they are just my insurance for when I'm shitting my pants of old age and they can take care of me.

>>714610805
yeah that's the problem with it

>>714610858
you don't go in the city, you don't go near it, the get the fuck away from it as far as you can, it's that simple.
if you want big money you have to look into towns that are currently expanding those towns are always looking for new employees because the influx of people generate needs for more services, you go there and make big money and easily get a job, it's that simple

>>714611060
if you jump from rent to much cheaper mortgage or lease or something you'll automatically have more of a buffer than trying to save while renting.

>>714610720
Return from where

>>714611043
this. they are making being an esl teacher to be as bad as being a janitor. and besides, you'll always be seen as subhuman by the japanese even if you're working in an office accountant like the majority of them

>>714611002
A lot of places are scummy and will price hike like crazy because the “market” dictates it. Some are willing to negotiate, but a lot aren’t. I don’t wanna rent, but unfortunately I don’t make enough yet to be able to have much say in the matter. But apartment living has just become a game of trying to stop whatever shitty rental company from completely gouging you and either negotiating or finding a new place.

>>714611379
yes. jump ship immediately. get the fuck out as soon as possible. do not wait.