Why can't you do this attack in any of the Star Wars games?
>>714624159 (OP)Because it's retarded. Let me not block his attack and instead do a longer maneuver. The gif only works because the guy is only defending.
because it results in you getting hit first by the guy defending, all he has to do is push HIS blade forward while yours is extending and your cut.
>>714624159 (OP)Force users have hightened forsight. They can react withing milliseconds
>>714624159 (OP)Why not use a precise force push to hit the off switch on your opponent's light saber?
>>714624159 (OP)I think you can in certain VR games
The lore states that once you power off your lightsaber, there is a significant cooldown period.
Why do Jedi even use lightsabers at all? Couldn't they just use the Force to fix all their problems anyways?
>>714625597So how does anyone ever get hit? How is spamming more attacks without using this trick more effective?
>>714624159 (OP)pretty sure this was an actual thing in legends, and the explanation of it not being widespread was that jedi found it dishonorable and most sith viewed it as a crutch for sith with bad skills
>>714628069It makes you tired if you just it too much
>>714624159 (OP)dont try to make sense of fiction. in reality no one in the future will ever be fighting with melee weapons again. Superior range is always better
Because force users are too stupid to use it
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Tr%C3%A0kata
Why didn't Qui-Gon just use the force mind-trick on another non-Toydarian junk dealer in Tatooine, then swap out Republic credits for currency Watto would accept?
>>714628182By being forced into an unwinnable moment. You can't react your way out of slamming into a wall.
Why don't the jedi just use regular guns? What is lil bloop tuppa goin do if someone shoots him with a shotgun, he can't deflect pellets with his lightsaber
>>714628182Same reason mma fighters or boxers still get hit despite being able to move way faster than the average person and both guys usually being at the same level of training. People make mistakes, it doesnโt make them infallible and feints and stuff still happen.
>>714628572Why do Christians wear crucifixes?
>>714624159 (OP)I'm pretty sure the samurai jedi in Visions did this, and it only worked because he was willing to take the force lightning hit by his opponent. IE you do this but open yourself up to counter-attack that could be just as dangerous to you.
>>714628572Better yet has any Sith or Jedi just specced into force powers only instead of even using a light saber?
>>714628549Why did Jango Fett the bounty hunter hire another bounty hunter to assassinate Padme, then when that bounty hunter got caught, poisoned the bounty hunter with a dart instead of launching a missile or something and blowing up everyone involved? Why didn't he just shoot Padme or blow up her room while the Jedi were busy chasing the other bounty hunter?
>>714628182Luck beats skill
>>714628907better question is why didnt he shoot anakin or obi-wan with the poison dart
>>714628182Different strengths and skills just because you know it's coming doesn't always mean you have the ability to block it
>>714624159 (OP)why do black guys like the purple sabers so much?
>>714629186why the fuck do you think, think about it for 2 seconds
da force decides who wins and loses
>>714628907Why did the other bounty hunter try to kill the Jedi, even though that wasn't part of her contract, she was outnumbered and she could have easily just shapeshifted and ran away? Why did the bounty hunter hire a droid to cut open a window into her room and send venomous insects inside it, instead of just shooting Padme from the window after cutting it open?
>>714628182Because some Jedi have better precog and skill than the opponent theyre against. Sidious was good enough that he killed 3 Jedi Council Masters in 5 seconds with Windu being his perfect kryptonite counter due to Vaapad and years of training. Why? Because hes stronger in the Force than most of them. And even being powerful isnโt enough. Sidious was so drunk on his personal hype and torture of Luke he did NOT see Vader returning back to the light and tossing him down a ventilator shaft.
>>714628907>>714629389Also if the point of killing that bounty hunter was so she wouldn't spill any information tracing the Jedi back to Jango or Palpatine why did Jango use an exotic weapon like an obviously traceable poison dart
>>714624159 (OP)>Why can't you do this attack in any of the Star Wars games?Cal does it in Jedi Fallen Order
>>714629256hmm
Probably the skull shape.
>>714628572>force pushes all of your kinetic projectiles back into your face
Star Wars is retarded. More than 20 years ago I borrowed a VHS from a classmate and I immediately realized that's some stupid ass shit. Playing Dune: Awakening made me watch the movies and I'm baffled because I feel like I'm watching star wars that's actually great.
>>714628549Why the fuck would a random backwater NOT accept the currency of the largest, most stable polity in the entire galaxy?
>>714628069Darth Vader can catch a gigantic flying ship and crush it, it makes no sense to not just do that to all his opponents.
>>714624159 (OP)Why can't you do this move in any of the Star Wars games?
>>714624159 (OP)Probably because another jedi or whatever isn't going to just stand there and let you do it.
>>714628182Play Yomi Hustle and find out how far precog actually gets you
>>714628923lol the fact that your best bet is just throwing a frag or trying to shoot one in a fit of blind rage is kinda kino desu. just wing it bro
>>714624159 (OP)Because it's pretty much useless against single tempo ripostes.
>>714628482of course there's a fucking wiki page for this
How would Star Wars RPG work with a parry system like Paper Mario
>>714624159 (OP)In less than a second before your non-force user sausage fingers turned off the lightsaber your opponent already sliced you like roast beef
>>714628069There are some things like the Ysalamiri that can actually negate force powers. Some people have used these creatures as a shield as a result
>>714624159 (OP)Didn't visions do it
Even Sith think such moves are cowardly
>>714628069I believe its harder to use the force in direct combat when faced with a lightsaber as it requires extreme concentration and such.
>>714624159 (OP)Lightsabers don't power off and on that fast, literally just watch any of the movies. In the time it took you to try this, any competent opponent would have just cut you down.
>jedi comes at me
>blow him away with a shotgun
>>714624159 (OP)What's really funny is that SW fans will make retarded excuses for why this wouldn't work until some show or comic does it and then they cheer for it
If we're talking about shit that makes no sense in games. How the fuck do the infected survive the winter in The Last of Us?
>>714631585saber on/off time in the movies is just whatever is most appropriate for the given scene.
>>714624159 (OP)When you block a blow, you don't just hold your sword in place, you swing it against the enemy's sword.
When the retard deactivates his lightsaber, the other guy would swing into him and kill him.
>>714631453Yeah but it was also in a situation where the opponent's concentration was all over the fucking place as he was both using a force power and looking at some other guy.
Using in a straight on fight where a skilled opponent is fixated on you is probably pretty dumb.
>>714630378Watto tells you flat out that it's the typical issue of fiat currency vs gold currency, and gold is a lot more valuable precisely because you are in the middle of backwater nowhere
>>714624159 (OP)why wouldnt the nigga on the left just stab the nigga on the right while his saber is turned off?
>>714628182People get tired in a fight. Is this really a question?
>>714631646>Flicks on your safety
Why didn't Maul swing upwards?
>>714631812Implying it has a safety
>>714624159 (OP)that would be stupid. just as stupid as using ships going into hyperspace speed into other ships to destroy them lol
>turn your saber off
>against a combat precognitive who also has a lightsaber
>>714631847>Force pushes your hammer from striking
Level 2 force choke should be force aneurysm.
>>714631907You don't even have to be a precognitive. Everyone sees how slow a lightsaber is to retract and extend.
>>714631907>combat precognitiveThere are a few force abilities that obscure and obstruct that shit. If you're fighting someone who can predict the future and read your mind with their magic powers, you use your magic powers to keep them from being able to do that.
>>714624159 (OP)nobody was laser sword fighting that close in the original trilogy, it was mostly like mid distance fencing. if you turned your blade off in that kind of fight you'd just be instantly stabbed.
>>714629389The droid and the bug bit were to avoid Jedi sensing any hostile intent. But Anakin was the super freak so he sensed the danger anyways.
>>714630378Hutt controlled, Hurt Space was never part of the republic.
It would be like trying to use Euros in the US.
>>714632391Extremely easy?
>>714632263Didnโt they sense the bugs though? Then it wouldโve made more sense for the droid to just shoot Padme after cutting open the window
>>714632391You can use Euros in the US or go to a currency exchange. We arent savages.
>>714632391wouldnt be more like trying to use USD in mexico
>>714629718>Pushes them back againWhat now you fucking jupp?
>>714631841why the fuck didnt he anything other than just standing there like a retard
>>714625105>>714625518>>714625597>>714625747>>714628068>>714628182>>714628341Obi Wan does it in Clone Wars, Cal does it in Fallen Order in order to trip up the Second Sister and force push her onto the floor. It's a thing in NuDisneyWars.
>>714631841or do anything really
>>714632232I do miss how grounded the fighting was before the Prequels even if it didn't look very eloquent with Luke flailing around quite often. It's also kind of phenomenal how full retard the choreography became in the Sequels. The Throne Room fight was atrociously dumb.
Personally I wish they'd go full Samurai with it, like they did a lot in Visions. Not even a lot of direct Lightsaber clashing, just a bunch of bullshit until someone can whip out a decisive strike or trick the opponent.
>>714632479You can get them exchanged, but unless you are near an international airport it won't be close by.
Also, I have never once come across a single business that stated they would take any currency outside of US, including Pesos in Texas and Canadian along that border.
Some might do so without advertising such, but that's usually street vendors near the border, and US is way more valuable to them
Usually it's the opposite, TJ wants dollars and so does Haiti.
>>714632507Using US currency in Mexico is easier than using Mexican currency in Mexico.
>>714631664Because they aren't humans anymore I think? They're walking flesh puppets with the mushroom controlling their movements. They dont have to worry about frostbite or anything. Not as much as a human does anyway
>>714624159 (OP)Just get a gun at that point. Yes, light sabers are stupid
>>714630909asking the real questions here
not even bioware delivered
>>714632902They still have human muscles and human organs, its not like the fungus can completely change an organisms makeup
>>714631841Star Wars games should incorporate this level of dismemberment more
Why don't Sith just use flamethrowers against Jedi?
>>714633250>use flamethrower>flames get force pushed back at you
>>714632441Yeah, Anakin sensed the bugs because he was the chosen super force user.
The bug was just an animal being chill and looking for food, by the time it releases the killing intent it should've been too late. But, again, Anakin was the super freak.
Blaster bolt from the droid would've got the job done.
>>714633291>use your own force powers to push it back again
>>714633068I've been thinking lately that a Sith would actually be a pretty good villain for a Horror game.
>You're a bumbling Padawan with zero combat ability>Master gets murdered by a Sith Lord>Game consists of running away while the Sith taunts and torments you>Your lightsaber only serves as utility for cutting things out of the way>at the cost of instantly giving away your position over a large area.
>>714633250They shoot lightning, what the fuck would a flamethrower do?
>>714633331>>714633291If you're going to do that you might as well just skip the flamethrower and just force push each other from the getgo
Why couldnt I just use the force to crush someone's heart?
>>714632902Fungus can't survive the winter normally, it has to go into a dormant state. Ether the hosts should go dormant or the fungus just goes dormant separately from them, and they just become regular corpses.
>>714633250We see one instance of flamethrowers being used in the movies against Jedi with Mace Windu, and he had to run. He didn't try to block or force push it, he got out of there super fucking fast as soon as the flames started.
>>714633457Not get absorbed by a lightsaber?
>>714633457If the lightsaber can block lightning, why do we never see it block fire?
>>714624159 (OP)The Jedi and Sith both decided this move was stupid separately.
>>714633562Throat is more cinematic.
>>714633595>>714633597Anyone who can block Sith Lightning can deal with Fire just as easily.
Why didn't Anakin block the fire from covering his body?
>>714633562You can, but that would be too gruesome to be shown on anyone but Droids
https://starwars-exodus.fandom.com/wiki/Force_Grip
>>714632631so is the holdo maneuver
>>714633723May we see it?
>>714633723Then why didn't Windu do it when Jango used a flamethrower on him?
>>714633825Evidently he didn't need to.
>>714633570>Ether the hosts should go dormantThis is exactly what happens in The Last Of Us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ux9uRMY-F8
I fear that I never stopped being a star wars addict
>>714633791>women invented bad drivingsorry pal but that's been around for ages
>>714633562Too many midicholesterol. It's full of blood.
>>714633767Magma is stronger than fire. We've covered this.
>>714633562AT-fieldo is at its strongest around the heart.
>>714633960Those statements are not mutually exclusive. Bad driving can be around for ages and have still been invented by women.
The show was shit, but I actually like the thin lightsabers everyone had. They have a swashbuckler feel to them that I like.
>>714632737you could just go to any bank, you don't need a currency exchange unless you're exchanging US dollars for foreign currency.
>>714634216The way everyone stops to watch whenever someone uses one of these is hysterical to me.
>>714634216too bad they don't fight like rapiers, also that webm looks fucking retarded
I like to think of sabers as solid blades that just happen to be manifested as infinitely collapsible light. Helps with the videogames having them be so weak.
Idk man. I just can't take Star Wars seriously. As a video game material, it's ok, but I never enjoyed the "canon" media.
>>714634216Anon it's not 2016 anymore. We don't have to pretend Rebels is shit
>>714634216>helicopter lightsabersi will never take any media that shit like that seriously
>>714624159 (OP)because all the people using lightsabers are precogs and will literally see this coming
>>714634040Can I have DON!! cards with this picture?
>>714634307>I just can't take Star Wars seriouslyWhy would you try to do that?
>>714634372Play a better TCG that didn't decide to shoot itself in the head.
>>714634216>Ape escape.jpg
>>714634216I caught glimpses of this shit when my little brother was watching it and am so glad I never bothered. That seriously looks fucking stupid and I'm glad they did not include it in Legends.
>>714634461Because you can only suspend disbelief so hard. SW stuff always seemed too ridiculous, I could never really take it seriously or any of the story.
>>714634556>star wars>suspend disbelief???
>>714634216So apparently canonically these things have anti-gravity devices in them, but that just makes the spinning even stupider. I guess it's for the aesthetic?
>>714634216Why is Darth Maul there... He's literally dead since
>>714631841wtf is this shit?
>>714634730He got better.
>>714634730Don't worry he dies again.
>>714634730Oh, anon... Maul's been back with robot legs for almost 15 years now.
>>714634730Maul being too angry to die has been a thing for a while
>>714634730in the NuDisney canon he was so mad that he didn't die, in the original canon he was dead until his brain was shocked back to life and loaded into a hologram.
For the sake of not quoting people
>mfw reading these replies
were they really this starved of donut steel original bad guys they just fucking reused him? Why didn't they plan for this contingency by making his death less ridiculous to begin with?
Also I only ever watched the movies (even the fucking nuwars sequels) and never read any "lore" outside of video games.
>>714634730No one's ever really gone
>Heebi Jeebi, You are Sith Lord Now
>You must decide on new apprentice you will cultivate to inherit your legacy
>Will you pick a mighty warrior from alien culture steeped in the Dark Side?
>Or little Jedi Girl whose kind hearted nature will risk millennia of Sith plotting?
...
>>714634730Pre-Disney Star Wars also had Palpatine live and go into self imposed exile until Luke had to seek him out to team up with him to close a Force Black Hole that would engulf the entire galaxy.
>>714635282>Also I only ever watched the movies (even the fucking nuwars sequels) and never read any "lore" outside of video games.Then why are you so shocked? They brought back the fucking Emperor.
>>714635282You can't even blame Disney for this one. It's just George being George.
>>714634216Hiring Filoni was a fucking mistake.
>>714634216>filonishit I'm sorry but how are there adults that like this dogshit?
>>714635032It was actually right before Disney bought Star Wars in 2012, in 2012 there was a few Darth Maul novels, a comic series, and Season Four of The Clone Wars tv show all featuring Maul being alive after. I think it was Dave Filoni's idea originally but I'm honestly not sure and I'm gonna gonna research to see for sure.
>>714635282You know, the funny thing is, they weren't. They made an entire character that was Maul's Not-Brother, gave him a shitty name, but also an interesting story and motivation, then pretty much sidelined and demoted him to big brute sidekick status one Maul showed up. Then he jobs to Obi-Wan and Sidious and just dies.
The Clone Wars fucking sucked.
>>714635906Lucas had been toying with bringing Maul back for a while. Apparently Grievous was going to turn out to be Maul for a while, and then he was going to be the main villain of Lucas' sequel trilogy. I think bringing him back in a cartoon was just Lucas wanting to get the idea out in some capacity before selling to Disney.
>>714635984The Clone Wars has so many cool ideas and characters that all go nowhere or just end really shitty because the whole series is being crushed under the constraint of having to take place in between movies.
>>714635984There are nuggets of gold in the poop. The Space Shadow Vietnam arc was dope.
Clone Wars Multimedia Project is very good.
Adventures of Filoni's OCs and the same 4 characters showing up in every single fucking piece of Star Wars media he's even slightly involved with is very fucking bad.
>>714636203Yeah, but they're still covered in shit.
That arc was baby shit compared to the Battle of Jabiim from the old Clone Wars continuity.
Pong Krell sucked ass as a villain, too.
>>714633791what exactly is wrong with it tho
>>714636672>Trakata>Holdo ManeuverIt's one in a million
>>714635282Dude you have no idea how fucked up all shit that goes on when trying to make the EU for Star Wars. Pic related is about a Darth Maul videogame that was going to be made before Lucas stepped in and meddled with it.
>>714624159 (OP)It's precog reasons, normies would never understand..
>>714632263>actually it all makes sense if you read the novelizationgeorge you HACK
>>714636736>It's one in a millionis it actually? I thought she just suicide bombed into the fleet from a mile away
>>714635432I'd abandon thousands of years of Sith teachings for her
>>714634216>I'll try spinning that's a good trick
>>714636964>I thought she just suicide bombed into the fleet from a mile awaySomeone suggest doing another suicide bombing in the 9th movie to which someone replies "That's one in a million" to handwave it away
>>714636545wish all the phase 1 clones past Episode II looked like arc troopers to give them more of that """"tactical""""/OT stormtrooper esque look
>>714636756Is George Lucas a spaz? What the fuck? Maybe selling the shit brand for parts to Disney was his best move. But importantly, how the fuck did Disney fuck it up more?
>>714636545>Pong Krell sucked ass as a villain, too.it was rather interesting conceptually before it devolved to being "hes actually a sith :D" but TCW always shoots itself in the foot either because of timeline constraints like that other anon said or usually more than anything, being a show made for 7 year olds
>>714637064>Someone suggest doing another suicide bombing in the 9th movie to which someone replies "That's one in a million" to handwave it awaybruh
>>714634216how the fuck does this generate lift?
>>714630914>in a fierce dual>can see your opponents hands>their finger is hovering near the on/off button>blades are locked don't put your full energy into it>they turn their saber off>you kill themlol
>>714631841how does he see the guys light saber from his perspective?
>>714628482Based lore chad
>>714628907because it would have made the movie worse
>>714630909Damn, Kreia was crushing twi'lek pussy?
>>714637373Yes, absolutely. George Lucas was always just kind of dumb but very creative and was surrounded by a bunch of really smart people who prevented him from going full retard and pulling back his ideas so they could be applicable to practical effects. The invention of CGI essentially ruined him.
Disney fucked up because they massively overpaid for the licensing and had to recoup their expenditure very quickly, so they rushed out the movies nearly twice as fast as their predesesccors development schedule.
The only thing I like about Star Wars canon combat is when non-Force users kill Jedi/Sith and the methodology behind it
>>714637373Lucas had a general vision of what star wars was supposed to be. (kids movies that sold toys+space wizards)
Disney turned it into some kind of platform to spread modern political talking points instead of sticking with Tyranny VS Freedom.
Also kids don't give a single shit about the movie characters and aren't buying the toys.
I would bet anything that Baby Yoda sold far more than all of the Nu-wars trilogy characters combined.
>>714624159 (OP)Modern Star Wars really feels like this, like Lucasfilm just scratches the bottom of wookiepedia and fan theories to please redditors. No one gives a shit about this.
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>>714637504>How can a Jedi be aware of his immediate surroundings if he can't see?
>>714637917if he doesnt need to see shit why did he keep glancing towards it?
>>714635885>I-It's not a kid show!! It's for adults, o-okay?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX8iN6T_M_A
>>714635518That's cool and also really retarded.
>>714637773This is why Bounty Hunters in general were cool. You just stack up loads of whatever exotic bullshit you could get your hands on and throw all of it at the Jedi until something works.
>>714637749>was surrounded by a bunch of really smart people who prevented him from going full retard and pulling back his ideasNot during the prequel/TCW era. He was surrounded by yes men and sometimes cocksuckers like Filoni who would only find loophole ways to change shit that benefited himself, such as keeping Ahsoka alive for no reason.
>>714628182The same way anyone in a one-on-one fight gets hit; they either get lucky or they're more skilled than their opponent and can predict their movements better.
>>714632902>Because they aren't humans anymore I thinkThey're still human, just controlled by fungus.
If they bleed out, they die, if they get major organs damaged, they die, if they are exposed to elements that would kill a person, they should die.
But that's expecting too much good writing for vidya.
>>714638054Why do you turn towards a sound even if you can't directly hear it's source?
>>714628069That's LITERALLY Palpatines philosophy.
He only uses a lightsaber to humiliate the plebs
>>714638178Filoni is very much guilty of not killing his darlings
I really liked season one of the Mandalorian, but then in the second season literally every episode felt like a backdoor pilot so I stopped watching.
>>714638201because I'm reliant on my senses. The exact opposite of what you're saying is the case for this guy
>>714638054It's to inform the audience of what he's thinking.
>>714628182Because they still get tired. The best attrition duelists were the ones who had the most stamina.
>>714638248Personally I think he shouldn't have used a Lightsaber at all in Revenge of the Sith. Let the Space Wizard be a Space Wizard. Same goes for Yoda in RotS and AotC. The forces ability to get your body moving should naturally be limited on how tough your body actually is. Anakain or Luke can whip out that spinny shit.
>>714634216>My planet needs me
>>714638468you could easily just show him closing his eyes and then cutting to the lightsaber instead of showing him looking up and then cutting to it
>>714638386Jedi use the force to sense things, dummy. He's turning the attention of his other senses to the thing he senses with the force.
>>714638562George Lucas isn't a very good director for subtleties like that.
>>714633920>nuwars booksYeesh, well good luck.
>>714628182how do magicians beat other magicians? you outthink your opponent, and/or have more magic power than them.
Anakin beat everyone as an adult (except the much wiser and more experienced obiwan, who knew every move he made) because his force power level was unmatched. Don't cite anything nu-wars at me its trash-tier woke fanfiction.
>>714638517Rule of cool wins.
Also with the force you can become agile and spinny like Yoda but logically there's no real reason unless you fight hands on.
Exar-kun's crab master used a stick to block saber attacks due to him being force OP.
Plagueis novel is where they explain the forbidden lost arts Sith used to do, like breaking the sky, flying, etc
The Jedi see it as dishonorable, and the Sith see it as cowardly.
>>714638609>He's turning the attention of his other senses to the thing he senses with the forceyou said he doesn't need those senses. why would he try to focus on a sense that cannot be used in this situation? Its like someone told you to find the blue colored painting at a gallery and you started fucking sniffing around instead of opening your eyes
>>714629912Because movies based on decent books are always going to be better than some slop cooked up by movie people. That said, Dune is so semitic in essence it would make Watto blush.
>>714638847The problem is it's not really cool, it was mostly just silly.
>Also with the force you can become agile and spinny like YodaStarting with the Prequels, not the OT and only then, just Yoda and Palpatine and then Quigon and Obiwan in that hallway that one time and even at the time that was noted as being quite jarring and silly.
And you bring up the other forbidden Sith Powers, which more so emphasizes my point that there is all kinds of cool Sith shit Sidious could have done in that moment but instead he pulls out a lightsaber and does his impression of a baby in a washing machine.
>>714638928He doesn't need those senses to know where the Lightsaber is because he can sense it with the force. Because he can sense it with the force he tries to turn his other senses towards it, for the same reason you might turn your head to look at something you touched or a sound you heard even if it was pitched black
>>714628182One of them starts running out of MP and loses
>>714625747EU/Old Republic lightsabers have internal switches, hence why it's a "jedi weapon" because the switch can only be pressed and held by the force.
Because lightsabers are retarded and donโt wouldnโt be a functional weapon when all the enemies carry guns
>>714639330>for the same reason you might turn your head to look at something you touched looking at something provides you with more information by bringing an additional sense into the mix so you now know more about the object than just what it feels like. Looking at an object you can't see doesn't provide you with more information. If you could stick your hand through a wall and feel an object you wouldn't just start squinting to focus your eyes too.
>or a sound you heard even if it was pitched blackyou actually move your head to better guage more information from your sense of sound. Your brain is able to use information coming in to each individual ear to gain more information about where precisely a sound is coming from. It also helps orient and balance you.
>>714639875>It also helps orient and balance you.Exactly. Obiwan is orienting himself towards his lightsaber.