I have been on /v/ since 2010

I have never seen the industry get so defensive so fast.

Did you forget when Mass Effect 3 got bad user reviews?

>the industry
It's anons posting constant anti-skg trash to fish for (You)s and attention

>>714748820 (OP)
They don't want you to own anything. They're shitting their pants on how fast SKG is now gaining support. They're trying to turn this into another gamergate and I'm afraid it's actually working.
Game journalists are making Asmongold and Pewdiepie the face of the SKG movement.

Disgusting whitewashing of egyptians
fuck you

It's as if all the idpol shit is theater but if you collectively demand for regulations, they actually care. Because being racist does not meaningfully impact their bottom line but regulation does

>>714749073
>Many developers are now urging #StopKillingGames organizers to take a firmer stance against hate groups and clarify the movement’s values. “Preservation without protection is meaningless,” said Aviv Salinas, co-creator of Blood Nova. “We need to preserve games and the people who make them.”
>As the campaign approaches legislative milestones, its ability to remain inclusive and principled will determine whether it becomes a force for good or another flashpoint in gaming’s long-running culture wars.
That article is pure sjw sludge jesus fucking christ. How the fuck do we stop this from gaining any more traction?

>>714748820 (OP)
Because EU will bring in the government on this. Unlike in the US there's a chance something could change in Euroland.

>>714748820 (OP)
That is because unlike certain other markets the EU has a proven track record of acting in the interests of the small people so the big boys are scrambling to get ahead as nobody thought SKG would actually get the million required votes.

Why doesn't Ross get a haircut and get rid of the sexual offender goatee? Seriously I bet people would take him more seriously if he cleaned up

>>714748820 (OP)
Why do I keep seeing his fucking face here and why should I care?

GG was exactly like this
lots of industry people defending some murderous arthoe

>>714749139
Remember when SJW bullshit was used to delegitimize a historical turning point? They know it works because it dilutes cohesion and focus.

>>714749005
This. All I've seen are some twitter posts with sub-1k responses and a single rebuttal from a group representing some AAA studios.

>>714749207
People willingly accepted giving power to creatures like this that look like a fairy tale spook
Ross at least has a friendly aura around him. Something something positive thoughts.

>>714749180
>>714749192
Problem with SKG is that it's quickly turning into another gamergate, and they will never pass anything that has even a single hint of alt-right reputation to it.
We have to be real fucking careful this next few weeks as we get closer to the deadline, the industry wants SKG fucking dead!

>>714749280
Occupy Wall Street failing was when everything went wrong.

>>714749092
King Tut's DNA is over whelmingly European.
Stay mad.
Same for the oldest of Chinese Emperors, Incan Kings, etc.
It's all well documented even, China even spent decades trying to cover it up.
As the Western, European, blood/genetics decayed so did their innovation and tech.
White people quite literally built the entire world. Stay mad brown boi.

Gamergate again?

>>714748820 (OP)
People have been pushing back against this shit for years but only more recently have these types of games really started being shut down so the movement has been born. Even if it all goes into law we'll only see some changes like a decade from now.

>>714749192
>EU has a proven track record of acting in the interests of the small people
holy fucking kek

>>714749207
His look is his trademark. He has looked like that for 10+ years, it's recognizable

>>714748820 (OP)

Games are not physical products you can "own". They are walks in the park, a softball game with your friends, a trip to an amusement park. They are just things for entertainment to pass the time.
You don't gain full ownership of the park or ball game because you spent $20 on a ticket. Funny how that works huh?

https://files.catbox.moe/qbs92c.mp4

>>714749139
>That article is pure antiwhite sludge jesus fucking christ.
fix'd.
You curb stomp it by calling them ANTIWHITE.
NOT sjw.
NOT woke
ANTIWHITE!
You point out they are trying to dissuade and cover up rampant corporate greed and abuse by directing ire to Whites and targeted social lynchings of content creators.
Stand firm on how this benefits all gamers casual or hard core by ensuring all games, be it fifa, cod, splatoon, FGO, destiny2, warframe, WoW, etc have some form of End of Life/service operation for players, rather than their time invested being pissed away.

>>714749393
it's important it goes into law. I don't think anyone expects totally overhauls to happen overnight.

>714749440

>>714749583
The problem is that this is going through the EU parliament, who are extremely Antiwhite. I don't think they'll take kindly if SKG adopts that message.

>>714749376
>King Tut's DNA is over whelmingly European.
they never released his dna bro...

714749360
Nice try

>>714749360
>We have to be real fucking careful
It doesn't matter. The freakout over gamergate was completely manufactured. This is too. That one WoW faggot has already been lying out his ass about review bombing that provably did not happen. Even if you don't say or do anything naughty, they'll claim you did anyway.
It's just going to come down to who people believe. The people whinging about stop killing games have a substantially worse and less trustworthy reputation than game journos did at the start of gamergate. So this could all end up backfiring on them.

VE VILL KILL GAMES AND YOU VILL BE HAPPY

>>714749693
>>714749376
ACK

>lefties trying to turn this into gamergate 2 just so they can kiss more corpo boot
what the hell, was it supposed to be like this?

>>714749790
Compromised sellouts will always exist.

why is it only in EU

Don't you think anti-weeds are even worse?

>>714749790
It's incredibly funny seeing the left, who calls themselves anticapitalist and anti establishment fall for every single one of their tricks time and time again.
We can already see the context shift happen in real time, it's so fucking sad.

it's not a left-right thing
it's not a euro v american thing
stop trying to cause divisions

>>714749667
1. SKG itself doesn't necessarily need to take up that message, even if they should. We can still spread it ourselves here on /v/ on twitter, in youtube conments, etc so the vagues are informed.
2. Let the EU say 'Wellll..You hold a good point Mister SKG rep but...antiwhite ickkk...um nah' Have them lash back INSTANTLY 'So...you are saying officislly the EU holds antiwhiteism as a core tennet? That the EU advocates abd defends the erasure of the European people and their culture? Including our hold history of safe guarding and upholding consumer rights and protections? Frankly..I'm disappointed and disgusted by this troubling news.'
GET. THESE. POLITICIANS. ARSES. IN. THE. SPOT. LIGHT.
Make them claim they are antiwhite. Please by all means. Watch how fast they crumble.
It won't be a win for them.

>>714748906
I rember and I'll never forget

>>714749139
>Preservation without protection is meaningless
I don't get it and anons do correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't ID Software like the original Doom games make their products open source or something, as if your free to do whatever you want with is as long as your cite the original creators? Isn't this a way to preserve games?

Just a flash thought but assuming if cooperations want to take down a game's live service, just release its source to the public? Like this game is almost 10 years old and it's online-only so maybe when the game turns 15 after EA finds it no longer profitable due to newer products, just release it and let private servers handle them so diehard fans could continue to enjoy the game?

>>714749837
Basically impossible to get going in the US due to a ruling in 1999 that is basically "EULA is binding, fuck off". Unless you've got mega money to lobby for a law change it is a non starter.

>>714749837
USoids have no rights, Asia doesn't care and Australia is too small

>>714748820 (OP)
>I have been on /v/ since 2010
I didn't need that information
>I have never seen the industry get so defensive so fast.
They've never pulled so much bullshit so much, often and so long on so many, as a result the customers have never needed to be so united to push for something that would require defense.

For those still in the dark this to a degree is what Ross was hoping for, not any legal miracle but companies to play their hand so the smokescreen of ambiguity on the matter dissolves. Of course there will always be shills, contrarians and whales who will deny or ignore what's evident, but the point is the movement managed to push for and highlight an evident response against consumer interests whatever excuse they forge to justify it.

>>714749837
Because they at least have some modicum of consumer protections. In the US this is already a lost battle where the only hope is other countries' laws shifting industry standards away from scumfuckery.

>>714749921
Divisions are one of the first things you create to oppose a movement. FUD comes along too (which we have already seen the first move).

>>714749005
Old news. The european video game lobby made an official statement saying SKG would be "too expensive".
They're aftraid.

>>714749903
these retards playing politics football
>UK
doesn't matter anyways

>>714749940
>Make them claim they are antiwhite.
They're already doing that in broad fucking daylight.

>>714749790
I think a lot of them are in the industry and they accept the current standards of vidya enshitification.

>>714749139
Good thing the initiative is very clearly written and has nothing to do with the court of public opinion where these raging twitteroid retards hold all their sway and try to muddy the waters.

>>714749903
>72 views
wow it's literally fucking who

>>714749921
It's definitely not Euro vs American.
Most of us don't approve of this shit either, just have less methods to petition properly (by design).
Left vs Right is arguable.
It's really proconsumer vs anticonsumer.
ProEuropean vs antieuropean.

>>714749837
America is fucked in regards to consumer advocacy. Shits pretty sad.
Australia kinda the same I think. This may put some pressure on these companies over here though. We REALLY need Ford vs Dodge Bros killed ASAP though.

>>714749921
It's 4chan, and the internet in general. Needless conflict is what these online losers dwell on, look at this site for example, instead of uniting for a cause it's "white this", "race that", "we wuz afrikans/europeans", pathetic.

>>714749903
>pic
a LITERAL drooling retard

>>714748820 (OP)
People aren't buying AAA Western slop anymore. No body cares about Madden aside from black people.
No body cares about Call of Duty except married millenial/Gen Xers who need something to get away from their bitch wife.
Corporations are doing everything to shutdown all forms of entertainment except the ones they want you to buy, for $80 plus tax plus tariff plus tip plus $30 DLC.
Shutdown all old games, make emulation illegal, deleted roms from the internet, ban Japanese niche/ecchi games, encorporate restrictions on chinese lootboxes (not actually a bad thing). All so you will buy the next Concord and Dustborn.

>>714749440
>Games are not physical products you can "own".
The EU will decide this

>>714748820 (OP)
allowing the goycattle to play previous years games makes absolutely no sense from a business perspective. They need to buy next years product every year regardless of whether or not it's a better game to make the line go up.
The ideal end point for the game companies is a license costing around $90-100 to play a game until a replacement is made or the publisher decides for some other reason to revoke the license or shut down the servers hosting the game.

Naturally legislation preventing this is a threat to their business model

>>714749790
Turning it into gamergate 2 is a move so it can be instantly discredited without addressing it

>gamergate was made up of a bunch of racist homophobes
>thus they are bad people
>thus we don't want to acknowledge what they stand for in any capacity
>ban them, shut them down
>no i dunno what they were discussing but that is irrelevant, we do not negotiate with terrorists

>>714750095
They are only claiming it in round-about means though.
'muh immigrants are brave bold scienist to reinvigorate da economy' 'muh cultural cohesion' or whatever antiwhite meme pathologies.
Having an EU rep in all their shit huffing hubris outright saying 'European Wellbeing is something we loathe and undermine and will push antieuropean propaganda' completely changes the game.
The illusion dies that day. Full stop.

>>714750076
But the division is created from within and I'm not talking about shills or false flags. You people just can't shut up about race and politics. Focus on the consumer rights.

>>714748820 (OP)
>I have been on /v/ since 2010
And you still haven't grown out of this place? What a manchild

>>714749921
it's consumers lobbying government to shove a dick up corpo ass

>>714750364
OP is a 40 year old who pisses his pants whenever a younger lad uses words like "rizz" ohio", "skibidi"

They live rent free in his head.

>>714748820 (OP)
goobergate caused a way bigger shitstorm instantly.

>>714749073
Elon Musk retweeting the movement didn't help things unfortunately.

>>714749785
>S.O.Y

>>714749921
Divide and conquer goy. Think of the poor Ubisoft CEO. How will he afford his third yacht filled with Argentinian child sex slaves if you force him to give server files for the latest Ubislop cash grab.

>>714748820 (OP)
It’s weird that the ones lobbying against it are the huge companies when the arguments against it are usually “but indie devs can’t afford to make server tools public after they’re not using them”. I wouldn’t have expected companies like Riot to come and defend the poor indie devs.

>>714750431
>brings up gen alpha and nuspeak unprompted
>talks about rent free
I got bad news for you

>>714749073
So... they're giving us a free win? Alright then!

>>714748820 (OP)
This doesn't affect Activision and EA in the slightest, this affects Ubishart of whom was already on their death bed.

>1 in 100 finns have signed the initiative
Kneel.

Wtf, I love the EU now.
Ameritard corpopiggies on suicide watch

Is this going to be another gamergate thing where a legitimate movement gets traction for approximately two days before screeching rightoids co-opt it to bitch about how their wives won't fuck them

>>714748820 (OP)
Of course they're going to be defensive about it, the gaming industry just laid off tens of thousands of jobs this year alone, it's not in a good state at the moment. This movement is just another kick in the teeth while they're already down.
These demands are absolutely unrealistic and are impossible especially for indies to implement.

>>714749903
>>714749790
>>714750313
>>714749073
This is a fucking devide and conquer attempt tyhey're trying to pull. EVERYONE is supporting this both LEFTISTS and RIGHT. This is bipartisan so FUCK YOU

>>714750828
If they had brains they'd find ways to capitalize on it.

>>714750795
Where do you see this again

>>714750795
The Finnish are a fine lot.
Wish 'em the best.

>>714749837
Because unlike Amerinistan we have consumer protection rights here and if we adopt something EVERYONE else has to tow the line.

>>714750828
You phrase that as if it's a reactionary move, and not part of standard stock-manipulation procedures.
This is why there's catastrophic brain drain in the industry at large, because actual programmers just go to work in enterprise webdev rather than wasting their time in an industry that pays $48k yearly salary and no paid overtime for 60 hour weeks.

It's because of the layoffs that soulless multinational megacorps have so much money to tie up all of these legal cases. SKG won't be resolved in the current decade.

>>714750476
yes it did

>>714750795
Finns fucked up by not having ID requirement.

>>714750874
Its incredibly disheartening to see them actually dividing the movement the moment it saw 1 million signatures.
We have to be really fucking careful this coming month as it draws closer to the deadline.

>>714749790
gaming media is just a shared PR department for the game publishers and big devs. They'll try their absolute utmost to kill anything that's a threat to the people that pay their bills

>>714749790
"Left" this, "right" that. I haven't been in these threads much since it hit the million but at least before then they were full of people calling everyone supporting it a commie. It's just shills and/or idiots, don't fall for their tricks.

>>714750647
if hitler won he would have started this movement decades ago

>>714748820 (OP)
Assume half will be dismissed on some grounds because nothing has been checked yet.

>>714750936
https://stopkillinggamestracker.pages.dev

>>714750828
They’re pretty realistic, just it’s hard for them to be as predatory if they admit the game is on a short timer, and they could put in the bare minimum effort and goodwill by making it not bricked after they shut down official servers.

>>714751000
Ross will unite us. The same way he united us against the nepobaby ferret rapist.

>>714750991
It helped drive the narrative of turning SKG into another gamergate. The EU is going to look at SKG suspiciously if it's biggest supporters are all hated by the left.

>714749790
>catnigger posting engagement bait again
I'm pretty sure it's all the same person

>>714749790
Retard

>>714751014
>Adolf "privatize everything except the military" Hitler
>Siding with any kind of consumer rights movement
what

>>714750828
>These demands are absolutely unrealistic and are impossible especially for indies to implement.
What fucking indies are even affected faggot?
Barely any indie games even have online play to begin with, and few still have it as a major portion of the game.
Fuck off corpo-shill.

>>714751019
Ross said at least 250k. I hope it's less than 100k

>>714751073
>It helped drive the narrative of turning SKG into another gamergate
not a single person outside of 3 people on /v/ who are trying to bait (you)s think this, you gullible retard

I bet the government does absolutely nothing about this

>>714751068
>united us against the nepobaby ferret rapist.
See, this is the shit that's going to get SKG shitcanned. It's no longer a pro consumer cause and just a harassment campaign targeting PirateGaming.

>>714749921
The demonic forces have much experience at this, they're smart and are well aware how political division and hatred can stall any good (spiritual growth) progress humans might make.

>>714749397
what connector do you use to charge your phone again ;^)

>>714749785
>this does not mean that the royal mummies "lacked other affiliations"
So they are saying they explicitly tested for nigger DNA, found some, and then immediately published their findings without any further investigation.

>>714750828
>here's a zip file of my server software, I'm sure you guys can figure it out
what exactly is so hard about this?

People say bad things inside their own house
This affects my image as mr big property developer who built that house
Therefore home ownership should be banned

>>714751178
Get raped, Jason.

>>714750996
Finland has been disproportionately active online for a long time. Maybe there are some bad actors but I'm not surprised by the country being on top per capita.

>>714751104
It's sarcastic false-flag bait. He's saying that because it's one of the Pirate Software talking points which don't make any sense.

>>714749005
Yeah?

>>714748906
>tfw you aren't Chad from Chad

The demonic forces have much experience at this, they're smart and are well aware how political division and hatred can stall any good (spiritual growth) progress humans might make.

>>714751224
No company is willingly going to give you that shit. Might as well ask for the source code while you're at it.

>>714749790
Leftists were never pro/anti corporatism, they were always anti-human however.
If the majority of humans are enjoying corporatism, they demand it's destruction at all costs.
If the majority of humans are protesting corporatism, they demand it's success at all costs.
Their entire ideology is 'contrarianism as long as it hurts you'.

I don't care about the politics or the arguments, I voted because it's the right thing to do

>>714749837
a company in the US can legally make you a slave for life if stated in the EULA anon
its lost, the moment Ford v Dodge was decided it was over for the US

>>714751231
It's Thor! THOR! THOOOOOR!

>>714751327
>Their entire ideology is 'contrarianism as long as it hurts you'.
Sure sounds like 4chan

>>714751224
A massive amount of theft occurs in proprietary code, and companies are exposing themselves to lawsuits when it comes out that they've been making money on shit without paying license fees.

>>714751303
yeah that's why we want it to be law that they have to give it to me
>they CAN'T it's too hard
>actually it's really really easy
>yeah but they don't want to
are you fucking stupid?

>>714751351
What would you do in this case? Buy plane ticket to jp and kyoani them?

>>714751303
https://www.reddit.com/r/wowservers/comments/nt7g8w/how_private_servers_work_technically_and_why_imho/

>>714749139
>>As the campaign approaches legislative milestones, its ability to stay on our side politically will determine whether those involved in it stay in our good graces or get cancelled and harassed en masse.
You don't wish painful, protracted DEATH on these human shaped things enough.

>>714751371
Horseshoe theory is true.

>>714751331
If only more people are like you.
The majority of /v/ voted for it because they want to dunk on Thor from Pirate Gaming

>>714751216
and it's only this one specific report/examination.
There have been dozens on his DNA at this point.


>>714751178
Why are you putting ferrets in your arse jason? Stop it.

>>714751371
Perfect example of what I'm talking about
>N-No it's the 4chinz which are the bad ones!
What site are you on, retard-kun? You're not here to actually do anything progressive and righteous, you just want to spread division and upset people.

>>714748820 (OP)
>i'm a newfag cancer

ok? weird way to start a thread

>deliberately misrepresenting the directive and its aims and goals failed
>big government deflection failed
>slippery slope fallacy with porn regulation failed
>now they're pushing gamergate 2 divide and conquer
Yeah, I'm thinking we're winning

SKG shit just makes me realize how much people don't really understand or care about how the world actually works and only think about things emotionally and what they want

Live service games are not products.They are services you have the privilege of accessing

>Forcing game companies to give away the release the infrastructure and bones they created to allow people who don't own the copyright to run and even possibly make money off of their product
By far the stupidest thing SKG wants

>Everything Thor related
Because Thor communicates his thoughts like a jackass narcissist, most people just want him to lose out of spite rather than think about what SKG actually does to games long term

>>714751327
>Leftists were never pro/anti corporatism, they were always anti-human however.
Nah, they're simply anti reality.
That's why according to them men can be women and men can give birth. And why criminals are saints.
The more you deny reality the better leftoid you are.

>>714751452
I imagine a lot of people are here because they can talk about this shit openly and even be contrarians about it just because. Try doing the same on Reddit or whatever forums are still left.

>>714751417
I had no idea who this guy was until recently

>>714749280
Yeeeeeep. Every time we get organized and find common cause (((they))) and their minions show up to try and stir infighting
>>714749367
People on both sides of the aisle finding common ground and realizing (((who))) is fucking them both is the thing they fear the most, hence why the goyim must always be fighting each other
It's how they've operated for centuries.

>>714751462
I don't give a shit. Have an EOL plan for your game, or don't release live service games.

>>714751457
based
t. 2009 chad

>>714751512
Nobody likes people who are contrarian for contrarian's sake.
There's a difference between going against the grain, and just being a contrarian to piss people off.
Leftists do the latter, 4chan does the former.

>>714750874
This is what they always do, see something that supports consumers, start sowing seeds to divide. Make the movement supporters "literally hitler" for the left, and "the jooos" for the right.

>>714751462
I don't care.

>>714751462
Not my problem. Now clean it up, retard.

>>714749979
How did the 18th amendment get passed against a big industry?

Nobody is biting, Anita.
I WILL own my and games and i will be happy.

>someone has fair, light criticism about Stop Killing Games
>"Nooo you don't understand the proposal, it's not X, it's Y"
>another person criticizes Y
>"Sigh... People still don't understand the proposal is not about Y, but actually about X?"

I'm fucking done with this stupid subject. It is impossible to say anything negative about it because Stop Killing Games is like the holy spirit: it's nowhere, and at the same time everywhere. It's about nothing, and at the same time everything. No matter what you criticize, it'll always be "wrong" because it is actually about whatever point you did not criticize; and this point will oportunistically change once the next person says they disagree.

Fuck everyone involved with this. Bunch of dishonest vulture clowns

>movement is unpopular
>corpo shills try to stop it using rightwing speech: "commie" etc etc
>movement is popular
>corpo shills try to stop it using leftwing speech: "hate group" etc etc
It's almost like the people against this are actually part of one singular force that adapts their tactics depending on the audience they're trying to play to, and going after SJWs or whoever you dumbasses think you're fighting is playing into an extremely successful divide and conquer tactic that your oppressors have been using to prevent any real resistance to their bullshit from forming.

>>714749583
Just like this genius right here.

>>714751171
the government is a front for the CEO/Investor'Banker elite.
they never have the peoples interests at heart or concern.
Why do you think the roads are falling apart, the hospitals that need upgrades don't get any, homelessness and rape/theft/petty crime/manslaughter/class/race/sex division is going through the roof?
Its all so they have more wealth and more power.
Endless amounts of billions of dollars isn't enough for them. They want a global 1 world government totally under their control. They called it the 200 or 300 year plan and started it in the 1890s/1910s.
"You own nothing and will be happy" is cute, but its worse than that. They want to control peoples thoughts, perceptions, feelings. It goes beyond video game media and ownership of it or not.

>>714751640

>just give us your server binary
>it doesn't werk
>okay, just give us your source code
>it also doesn't werk because 3rd party code is missing
>wtf
>just break copyright regarding the 3rd party code
>the commie EU demands it
Do you see how fucking retarded SKG is? You fags haven't thought this through for a single minute.

>>714748820 (OP)
The games industry saw how FAANG got absolutely bent over the knee and spanked because of GDPR. The law itself is a mess rife for interpretation, and US companies are legitimately terrified over its existence. They obviously don't even more regulation, and many GaaS will probably be on the hook for both at the same time.

>>714751647
OK. Bye mr. organic poster and totally not an industry plant.

>>714751694
go to bed piratesoftware you gay furfag

>>714751462
>waaah I don't want to have to compete against stuff I made in the past
>I'm am willing to destroy all of gaming history to make my stonks go up 0.02%
literally not one single mentally stable (non sociopath) human being on the planet sympathizes with this, fuck you

>>714751694
>just give us the ability to make our own servers
>done

Wow, that was easy!
I much prefer my story to yours.

>>714751462
>Live service games are not products.They are services you have the privilege of accessing
So is the OS your phone or (modern) car runs, but there's some laws in place that prevents the company from just bricking your shit at will.

>>714751694
New script, Sukhdeep.

>>714751462
>Live service games are not products.They are services you have the privilege of accessing
Until a lawmaker I voted for decides otherwise

>>714751694
>not sucking corpo dick is.... le commie!
This is your average am*rican mind

SKG is astroturfed by the alt-right to entrench young people into the culture war. SKG has obscene demands that are anti-consumer such as permanently crippling Indies with this bill. It's a nothing burger movement using fake profile consumerist jargon to recruit people into the alt-right and I applaud people for finally waking up to it.

>>714751694
>Plan the development structure of your game to accommodate an end-of-life plan
>b-but that's not what we do NOW!!
>Yes, that's the point
>but muh third-party software!
>That's between you and the third party.
Nigger

>>714748820 (OP)
Only commies support this. How about we just learn some fucking self-control and vote with our fucking wallets and discourage this behavior normally? The last thing we need now is even more regulations and government overreach.

>>714749837
Americans still have legal slavery in the form of an EULA

Shit bait, 0/10

>>714751647
Fill in X and Y, then we'll talk.

Defcon 1 in effect, full shill siege has been deployed against the site.

>>714751807
By signing this petition I am voting with my wallet, retard.

>>714751807
>only commies support this
I already support SKD, no need to convince me

>>714751782
>ross
>alt right
PLEASE explain to me how ross is alt right. I need the laugh anon. PLEASE indulge me on that.

>>714751854
You vill have no wallet under communism, you know that right?

>>714751398
>travel to Russia's Kuril Islands
>purchase a biplane of a poor famrer for exactly 4,45$ and a pack of lime menthos
>fly to Tokyo
>head for their head quarters as you scream THIS IS FOR GUNPEIIIIIIII BANZAAAAAAAIIII

SKG is anti indie btw, if you voted for this bill you voted to hurt the little guy.

>>714751267
Kerry Hopkins is the one who coined the term 'surprise mechanics' for lootboxes

>>714751807
>we
rubbety rub

>>714751924
How does it hurt indie devs?

>Culture war this that
>Blablabla left vs. right
>Some scandal with people i dont care about
>Nooo it would hurt companies
Dont care. I could potentially get a benefit out of this with no damage done to anything I care about so i signed

>>714751901
Not only vill I have a wallet I vill also have the games

>>714751648
Stupid fucking nigger ape.
There is no corporation, or government body that would willfully advocate for the use of 'antiwhite',
NONE!
They want you saying 'woke' or 'sjw' or 'liberal' 'commie' 'nazi' 'facist' etc.
They do NOT want the word antiwhite spread.
To the degree this term was REMOVED from dictionaries back in the 60s and 70s to disempower Western kind.
You worthless gormless lemming.
'DIE' 'feminism' 'sjw' etc is all just abstractions to not address antiwhiteism. To keep you fighting ghosts they can change out with ease AS THEY HAVE FOR 40 FUCKING YEARS!
from 'politically correct' to 'sjw' to 'DIE' to now 'bridge'.
SKG is going to be infinitely more successful by calling this planned destruction of consumer property/ownership as antiwhite/antiwestern/antieuropean.
That such behavior is a spit in the face of long held European values and ethics to safe guard the consumer and what he has ownership of.
But be a retard and use methods that failed since 1950, by trotting out terms and phases handed down to you by the antiwhites.

>>714751807
American post.

Shills fear this picture.

No part of SKG is "anti-indie". Indie games don't have the same level of SaaS bullshit, and are probably using the steam datagram relay for networking in the first place so they aren't even affected.

>>714751863
He's implied being anti BIPOC and diversity in games, he's a typical subversive alt-right chud hiding under a veneer of authenticity such as the idea of SKG (its a pretty evil bill) to then turn young people into incels attacking people of color.

>>714751782
>demands that are anti-consumer such as permanently crippling Indies
Then it should be easy for you to name one
>with this bill
Nice try, shill

>>714749139
I remember seeing this exact post hours ago...

>>714752071
You don't understand, games have advanced too much, its LITERALLY impossible to have this now.

>>714751707
>how FAANG got absolutely bent over the knee and spanked because of GDPR.
I have no idea wtfh this is.
Give me some info anon.

>>714751694
That's too fucking bad.
Figure it out or get sued.
Hundreds of companies have sorted this shit out by now.

>>714751761
Don't stir the shit pot anon.
Has nothing to do with Americans.

>>714751372
Even that's not a problem, any law passed on this wouldn't be retroactive.
Here are all the points against skg that I have heard / can think of that actually make any sense:

>server software is using software/libraries that the game's dev might not be allowed to redistribute
Solution: Most middleware vendors will just change the license terms to allow redistribution, otherwise the dev will have to buy/develop replacements for their new games. Actually sympathetic, but not really a huge deal.
>server software is doing illegal shit
Solution: Spend the money to switch to not illegal shit for your next game. Also, fuck you.
>devs don't want to compete against their own games
No one cares. If this is a major problem for you, I hope you go bankrupt. Fuck you.

>>714751968
It doesn't because indies aren't the ones spending 100 million dollars to make live service gatcha games.

>>714751275
I think that was from when they added gay marriage to the Sims

>>714749073
>Game journalists are making Asmongold and Pewdiepie the face of the SKG movement.
that's based, I don't want Ross to have his entire identity to become "the SKG guy"

>>714751853
I'm noooticing this as well.
I'm also noticing our two favorite spergs aren't running their favorite antinintendo spergity all day.
glowniggers gonna glow.

>>714749837
ProCD vs. Zeidenberg really fucked you guys in 1999.

>>714752071
This is literally impossible chud

>>714751462
jew

This shit just comes across as the most EU, nanny state begging shit to me. Like don't get me wrong fuck all the jew companies but also crying to make a law to force a company to make a game a way you want it is some herd mentality shit.

SKG shills are now finally getting btfo by the mainstream because people are waking up to their anti bipoc and anti queer movement.Good on Dexerto for standing up as a beacon of light.

>>714752252
Cool.
I signed the petition.

Hearing all of these game devs bitch and moan about this shit as someone who works alongside code monkeys and seeing what standards they hold themselves to makes me sad.

>>714752252
absolute loser.

>>714752078
yes we know homos and leftists like piratesoftware and his ilk can't stand Stop killing games.
We know.

>>714752252
Nobody has ever liked american copyright law, schlomo

>>714752252
>crying to make a law to force a company to make a game a way you want it is some herd mentality shit.
But the petition isn't about making every game a turn-based rpg.

>>714752252
Skg shills can't refute this, they lost

This reminds me of that period of time leading up to Steamboat Willy becoming public domain and the shilling campaign on /co/.
Corpos are always afraid of anything benefiting goys.

>>714749139
>“Preservation without protection is meaningless,” said Aviv Salinas, co-creator of Blood Nova
As if protection exists in old games nowadays. Activision is currently selling 10-15 year old RCE hacked games for almost full price. Any CoD before MW19 for example has been fully hacked. People with RCE exploits can basically access to your entire computer. And publishers are not only doing nothing about it but they are also shutting down fan projects and private servers.

If you corposhits didn't want to be regulated by the government then you should've done something to self-regulate. You forced me to do this. Now reap what you sow.

>>714752252
>companies are so hecking jewish nigger nigger nigger kike do I fit in yet?
>but uhm, don't vote for this because it's mean!
>the honorable thing to do is...do nothing!

>>714749903
Don't you just love modern day leftists?
Telling all the poors how capitalism is bad!

>>714752269
>>714752292
Won't do anything, it's just a petition. Plus the EU is a negligible market in games that doesn't have enough weight to push the needle. In b4 iPhone USB C shit, way more people have phones than pay for incel hobbies.

>>714752417
pathetic

>>714752359
>period of time leading up to Steamboat Willy becoming public domain and the shilling campaign on /co/.
What exactly was going on? inform me
>goys
stop calling yourself a slave you worthless shit.
Purge yourself of this mind set immediately. It's unhealthy.

>>714749785
>Trusting literal S.O.Yniggers

A movement pushed as a way to control small game devs, corpos want this to succeed because it'll allow them to subvert the indie scene, signing this petition is very anti consumer.

>>714752071
The argument against this is literally just "we can't moderate user severs or provide tech support for them post EoS, so they are unsafe"

>NOOOO, REGULATIONS BAD! WE SHOULD JUST REMOVE ALL REGULATIONS! THE MARKET SHOULD BE A LAWLESS WILD WEST!

>>714752417
>Plus the EU is a negligible market in games
Retard

>>714752128
GDPR is the law around data protection that passed in the EU like a decade ago. It's why every site started adding that annoying "please enable cookies" modal, but it pertains to a lot of stuff that I won't get into it, the tl;dr being that (primarily social media companies) needed to store user data differently, and there has since been billions of dollars in fines issued against mostly Facebook and Google.

As someone who works at a tech company, I can assure you, "How does GDPR affect this" is asked quite frequently, and companies are paying insane rates for GDPR consultants, and the law itself can be surprisingly terse in places, and open to a lot of interpretation, so its legitimately a headache to comply with.

>>714752370
Not necessarily honorable but giving up on principles like freedom of association and property just because it happens to be against some scummy companies you don't like right now is shortsighted as all fuclk.

>>714749785
They didn't analyze anything. Also who cares about 3 way SSA, west eurasian, east eurasian model? People who has Yemeni autosomal DNA will score almost 100% west eurasian which can mean anything from Lithuanian, British, Italian, Greek, Georgian, Syrian and Yemeni.

>>714752442
>Steamboat Willy was becoming public domain because the copyright was finally running out and no extensions given
>/co/ was full of people saying this was bad because it would only result in low effort shit and that companies should have control over what they made (See a pattern here?)

Also I used "goy" as a tongue in cheek way for that's how they see us.

>>714752454
SKG shills eternally btfo

>>714752071
you photoshopped those or used AI !!
Everyone worth a damn said it is impossible !!

>>714752502
Yep these retards are trading away the right to property so they can play liveserviceslop except for dead games (so no players to play with??) It 's one of the most retarded movements to exist maybe ever solving a problem that doesn't exist.

>>714749627

>>714752502
you wont give up either of those things with that what the fuck are you talking about retard

>>714752502
They can do whatever they want with their game, the only thing they can't do is prevent me from playing it if I've purchased it. Where we are at right now is already very shaky for property rights of the individual, because games as a service are ambiguous. No matter what any side says, it is legally ambiguous, and companies want it to stay that way.

Donald Trump will kill this movement dead.
The EU shouldn't be messing with American companies if they don't want tariffs to increase.

SKG is pretty Jewish desu, it's essentially trying to strip away the limited resources Indies have. I won't be voting for it.

>>714752454
please explain how this hurts indie devs

>>714752498
Interesting, only heard a few things on this so good to have a refresher.
TYVM.

>>714752537
Right...I sorta recall the same thing occurring for the original Winnie the Poo design too.
Corporations are a fuck and need to suffer more.
Plus shouldn't be using 'goy' at all, it only affirms the idea to you sibconscious mind not defeats it.
Don't undermine yourself chad, you're better than that.
We're all gonna come outta this as winners.

>>714749790
>Leftists
It's not. Just corpo plants. I don't know a single leftist that is against this.
Industry rather makes this "us vs them" issue as quickly as they can because people jump into it as a nice way to "be correct".
Game journos do what game industry wants. That's all

>>714752502
>>714752615
But this is asking for the right to be able to own your game purchases as property?

You have GOT to be kidding me
>Supporting independent game developers, including those from marginalized racial groups, LGBTQ+ communities, and underrepresented backgrounds, is crucial for fostering innovation, inclusivity, and a thriving future in the gaming industry.
>They are the ones who create revolutionary new experiences utilizing the blockchain, AI, and other emerging technologies, significantly expanding their creative control, unlocking new revenue streams through NFTs, fostering deeper engagement with players, and building a more inclusive and vibrant future for interactive entertainment.
>This movement wants to put an end to all of it, so I BEG YOU TO NOT SIGN THIS!

>>714752717
Shut the fuck up.

>>714748820 (OP)
Last time they got so pissy was in 2014 during GG. I’m seeing a similar reaction now, especially with jannies erasing threads and all.

>>714752252
hope EA sees this bro

>>714751073
>>714750991
>>714750476
>>714749073
>another gamergate
most people who say this or parrot this in passing even pro skg could not accurately describe gamergate even if you held them at gunpoint.
if you think it was about the whore named in this image you are already wrong.

>>714752714
Readers context: This shill can't vote because he's not an EU citizen.

>>714752793
please explain how this hurts indie devs

>>714750476
Does he realize from his ketamine-haze that it's about EU imposing regulations on big american businesses? He's usually extremely against that.

>>714752406
would

presented without context

>>714749312
retarded shill. see>>714750080

>>714750828
>AAA studios laid offs
>online only games regulation
>this somehow affects indie devs, goy!
ok, pajeet.

Gamers gonna be BLOWN THE FUCK OUT when game companies only release the server binaries in the EU.

>>714752859
Every industry he works in is already heavily regulated. He doesn't have any monetary stakes in gaming so as a consumer it's just a positive thing for him.

What type of hobbies do these rich people have? I'd be fucking pissed if I was giga rich and still couldn't choose what games I am and are not allowed to play.

>>714752793
So game journos and industry tries to play two games
>IF YOU SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE YOU ARE AGAINST THE LGBTQ+ DEVS AND INDIE AND DIVERSITY AND NON-WHITE DEVS AND SIDING WITH NAZIS
>IF YOU SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE YOU ARE BASICALLY COMMIE AND WANT OVER REGULATE INDUSTRY AND ARE SIDING WITH LEFTISTS
It's honestly disgusting how journalists and such can jump in into this kind of shit. At this point I almost hope this crashes the vidya industry and we can start from a clean slate.

>>714752793
Who are you are quoting exactly?
And why are they so pigustingly antiwhite?

>>714752803
Just means we gotta keep fighting.

>>714752824
obfuscation of the truth is deliberate

>>714751694
>it also doesn't werk because 3rd party code is missing
Why would it be missing? You just use tools and processes provided by said 3rd party to sunset a game.
>but what if they don't provide them?
Then they'll be banned from EU, die, and their replacement will be there next week.

>>714752951
Anon... torrents?

>>714752951
>change geo location
>click download button

>>714749790
Its just easy to twist situations to justify them for either sides.
You see the same thing with the flood of brownoids in the west now.
If you want to appeal to leftoids you just say that more browns is good because they are better than evil whites and they are heckin oppresssed and if you disagree you are a hitler.
If you want to appeal to rightoids you say that this is the freedom corporations have and that in a truly free market you absolutely have to compete against the whole world and if you disagree you are a commie who wants a planned economy.
Of course you never bring up the actual reason which is suppressing wages.

At least one side is becoming way more aware of these jew moves.

>>714752969
Sailing, taking the yacht out, horse racing, high end prostitutes, cocaine the pure real stuff, high end wine tasting, golf etc.

>>714753038
This might be sour grapes but sounds boring... except the prostitutes and coke.

>>714752769
You can't own live service games. It's like saying you want the right to own internet access permanently.
>Well I BOUGHT a router and an internet cord from my ISP, so I must OWN MY INTERNET!!
This is what you sound like. If it was a single player game then sure it would make sense. But it isn't, and you willingly bought a client for a game whoes game state (such as legal moves and win conditions) is managed by an external server. That is not a good but a service.

I love when niggers act like this is the first time any corporation has had pro-consumer regulations forced on it.

First the industry plants called me a nazi and now I'm a communist. Rather pathetic if this is all they can do to try and shut us down.

This is good. The capitalist is industrious, but has no moral compass. It will only nickel-and-dime the consumer more and more until either the consumer or government draws a line and enforces it. Regulation is what keeps the capitalist compete with improvement rather than reduction.

>>714753038
they do 3 or more of these things at once btw.

>>714753024
suppression of wages is a big part of it yes, but not the only one.
Also why they are so against deportations. And why they all need to be evicted.
By catapult.

>>714753095
sure anon
now tell me, why do all those single player games need to be connected to the internet in order to work?
why do they need to be "a service"?

>>714753095
Private servers, sweety :)

>>714753150
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>>714753120
Yeah like rent control. So glad NYC and SF became the cheapest places to live in the world! The consumer is always right!

>>714748906
I remember a better one, what was it? The line was cross, something along those lines from T0rtanic

>>714749124
The NPCs are accidentally poking at a soft spot on the beast, though they don't really care outside of drama about video games so there is no real danger for Them here, and nobody will do anything about it when it ends with, at most, an advisory on the box of certain games in the future.

>>714753168
>why do all those single player games need to be connected to the internet in order to work?
Which ones?
>>714753195
>Private servers
They did not sell you that.

>>714749790
More like, why are amerigroids (russians) trying to turn this into yet another left-vs-right over-retardation?

I hope if anything happens from this, it expands into further discussion over ownership of digital goods. It's been a long, long, long time coming.

>their new tactic is associating SKG with Gamergate and they just assume that has negative connotations.
Are they banking on it having been so long that people now believe the propaganda wikipedia article or something?

>You can't just CHANGE how games are designed and developed, that is impossible!
>why?
>......FUCK YOU THAT IS WHY

>>714751597
There's no other industry that has people advocating for anti-consumer as much as vidya

>>714753150
expect it has nothing to do with capitalism.
We had it for hundreds of years, if not thousands without this rot.
Just blaming 'muh capitialism' itself is a diversionary tactic.
It's unchecked greed, corporatism and radical individualism.
The regulations are vital to stomp this shit out though yes.

>>714753095
I purchased software that is virtually indistinguishable from other non-live service software. Those function indefinitely and my consumer rights protect my access to my copy of the software regardless of the situation of the company which sold me the software. When I purchase internet access, there is a very clear time frame given to me for when my service will end. You pay X amount for X number of months of service. When I purchase a live service game I am told of no such end period for the service. It ends when the company decides that it does. This is what is being asked to change.

>SELL ME THIS PRODUCT THAT YOU DID NOT DEVELOP RIGHT NOW OR I WILL CALL THE EU ON YOU

>>714753150
>tfw when your society deregulates stock buybacks and allows for basically open manipulation of the stocks
>tfw this leads to wealth floating to executives and ceos and not to bring up wages in the company or bring up performance
>every company does this obscuring the actual health of the companies and making the economy based on fake stock numbers not indicative of the reality
>companies left and right die and layoff as a result of just not being taken care of basically of a faked stock price and ceos allowed to parachute
Amazing

Already signed. Based Ross.

It feels so weird to have ross in a wikipedia article.

>>714748820 (OP)
Did you already forget the coping over Clair Obscur just recently? Or the retarded reaction they had to Baldur's Gate 3?
Do you have the memory of a fucking goldfish?

>muh left
>muh right
Kill yourselves immediately.

>>714753284
I don't see why rus would care. They are so deep in the pro-consumer axis that they pirate most of their games. A new law that forces game devs to make even more tools available is only a good thing for them.

>>714753283
>They did not sell you that.
But they should have which is what the petition is about.
How do you have trouble understanding this?

>>714753316
They're fine with making fast sweeping changes like changing their entire business model from selling video games to selling "licenses" to their "live services" when it benefits them. Then when they're told to go back it suddenly becomes an impossible task.

>>714753406
I just want to raise awareness of this existing.
https://youtu.be/lAEWhiX_CSE?feature=shared

>>714753348
>We had it for hundreds of years, if not thousands without this rot.
You mean 200 years at best.

>>714753225
End of rine.
Rine end here.

My personal favorite was EA winning worst company in america twice in a row. Did that make everyone mad, EA and the journos had responses and articles deflecting within the hour.

>>714753416
It is scary how effective left vs right stuff is. /v/ everytime bites. I hope it isn't too late, but I'm not optimistic.

>>714753473
Anon should read up on medieval guilds and the like. People were always jewing each other.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't this movement make it so you can play the game even if the central server is turned off?

If you've been here for over 5 years you need to grow the fuck up

>>714753435
because yu are an idiot.
Russia can, will, and does, fund any propaganda pushing they'll further drive a wedge and divide the peoples of Europe and America.
That only benefits Russia in the long run, even if a movement like this has some net positives globally as well.

Signing this bill is anti indie and anti consumer, you are helping the corpos stomp out the entire indie scene.

>>714753406
I remember when he was mostly covering obscure games like Bip Bop or Bozo's Night Out.

>>714753283
Ghost Recon: Breakpoint
The Crew
The newest Hitman
Anno 2070
Diablo 3/4/R
Tom clancys hawx 2
trackmania
i could go on, but then you're gonna be like "nah that game is shit" or some other deflection, so why bother?

>>714752252
Pretty much.
I always thought there was a better way with the amount of traction this got.
Right down involving politicians is like the nuclear option and it is only for EA and Ubislop, maybe Gacha but who knows.
This movement was poorly thought out.

>>714753524
Kinda the point, yes.

Looks like an apple
Smells like an apple
Tastes like an apple
Woops sorry customer, check the fine print it is actually an orange so you don't get rights that apply to apples. Better luck next time :^)

>>714753558
>NO DON'T MAKE ME OWN MY GAMES NOOOOOOOOO
Kill yourself

>games are services not goods! You don't own your games!
If your game requires me to only purchase a 30 day subscription to access it, it's a service.
If your game requires me to PURCHASE a perpetual licensed copy, ie and intangible software, with additional optional subscription fees and purchases, it's a good and I own the licenced copy I purchased and expect it to work in some way or another for an indefinite amount of time, whether with offline play or local server hosting options. It's that simple.
Gaming companies have been trying to muddle these facts for decades and grew accustomed to thinking customers being mindless consumers without rights.

>>714753538
I don't give a fuck about the Russian government. Russian gamers are my brothers however.

>>714753558
you are brown
post hands

>>714753569
Bip Bop 2 is one of the best episodes just for the rabbit hole aspect.

>>714749719
>that provably did not happen.
It did not happen. Go look up games he "worked" on, there's no funny asterisk saying there has been reviewbombing.

>>714753524
It's basically be giving the consumer their own central server to maintain in some form and wash their hands of any responsibility or legal ownership/repercussion of the game after the dev/publisher ends service of the title
(but also monetary gain as well, which is the real issue to corpos)

>Hehe by law we only sold you a life service
>Alright gonna change the law then
>NOOOO THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS

Games are a service, you cannot physically touch a digital good. Get bent you stupid chuds.

>>714753558
Okay. How is it anti indie and anti consumer?

>>714753558
please explain how this hurts indie devs

>>714753515
My belief at the time was that voting bank of america was pointless because EA was more likely to change their ways because you know what would be embarrassing and obviously the people who voted for them as worst company were also their costumers.
Meanwhile Bank of America was not going to stop printing money out of the misery of their clients because someone made a website.

Ea got worse from that point.

>>714749397
>In the European Union, Apple users with iOS 17.4 or later can now install apps from alternative app marketplaces and directly from developers' websites. This change is a result of the EU's Digital Markets Act (DMA) aimed at promoting competition and user choice. Users in the EU also have the option to continue using apps downloaded from alternative sources even after leaving the EU, with limited update capabilities after leaving the region.

>>714752252
>crying to make a law to force a company to make a game a way you want it is some herd mentality shit.
>crying to make a company to make buildings the way you want (no asbestos, earthquake standards, fire standards)
>crying to make a company to make food the way you want (food safety standards, pesticide standards, no hormones)
>crying to make a company to make cars the way you want (safety features, crash tests, crumble zones, pedestrian safety)

>>714752252
what is this phenomenon called? when someone recognizes there is a problem but doesn't want anything to be done to fix it, and actively roots against any attempts at change?

>>714751647
>>714751694
again, not what SKG is asking

>>714753635
That's fair and fine.
But Russian gamers wouldn't be the ones funding and creating the possible agiprop.
I don't have anything against the average Russian myself, just explaining what the other anon meant.

>>714753734
you can delete this now k thnx bai

I love seeing corpos get uppity and cry when they're expected to consider the rights of the consumer
>NOOOO what do you mean we have to put seatbelts in our cars? Don't you see how this infringes on free markets?
>Have you even considered what goes into this proposition? You expect us to get in touch with third party manufacturers to make the seatbelts?
>We have never done this before, why should we now?
>You just expect all the car designers to suddenly know how to integrate seatbelts into their designs?
>Why do we even need big government? The markets will regulate themselves naturally and people will just buy cars with seatbelts if they want them
>You're meant to die in a car crash

>>714748820 (OP)
I agree, I think /v/ has been successfully infiltrated by people with vested corporate interests and no knowledge of how server infrastructure works, suits
Every single thread there's someone screeching about how it's physically impossible to host a game server on hardware that isn't in the publisher's basement, or how publishers will be liable for whatever goes on regardless of who is hosting, and so on and so forth
Complete and utter drivel that could only be thought up by the most brain-dead of business majors

>>714753684
die.
You chose your pitiful end.

>>714753750
He's a hylic.

>>714753095
>>714753615

>>714752252
>Like don't get me wrong fuck all the jew companies
Outed yourself.

This is a psychological manipulation tactic. They give tiny concessions to try and manipulate you into thinking that they're somewhat reasonable, that they're just like you. It's the same as when cop pretends to be a protester. Any use of this tactic while still being obviously opposed to the initiative outs you as a shill. Corporate plant. Rat. Fraud. Weasel. Scab. Roach. Suckers, thieves, and bad guys.

>I support SKG
>BUT

>Fuck corporations
>BUT

>I'm a regular joe just like you
>BUT

Instant tell.

The reason this has to be a regulation is that the conzoomers cannot be trusted to act in their own interest. I have watched these babbies born post-2000 grow up with 7th gen bullshit as the first games they laid eyes on, they don't know shit about video games and they have no idea that things can even be different from the AAA sloppa that has been shoveled down their throats. Their sole idea of an indie game is Undertale. We need to cut off access to the product.

>>714753370
>I purchased software that is virtually indistinguishable from other non-live service software.
False.
>Those function indefinitely
False.
>and my consumer rights protect my access to my copy of the software
The copy is never removed from your device
>When I purchase a live service game I am told of no such end period for the service. It ends when the company decides that it does. This is what is being asked to change.
Why does this matter? A roller coster ride lasts 3 minutes and can cost more than a video game. You are paying for the enjoyment you gain from the lifetime of the game. And even if private servers were enforced by law, you would still lose out on what you may have thought you would get from the game. You didn't pay for a private server client, you paid for the game as developed in a healthy state. So even here you end up in the same result of not knowing how long you will enjoy the game, or at least to what degree. Would it help if games sold you a one year license of the game and then a renewal fee of $1 per year? This addresses your arbitrary made up issue.

>>714753674
Given you assholes will call me a corpo pajeet for merely asking questions because you are donkeys, tell me what is the plan for when companies pay lawyers to your movement not that many, "they do it for free" type of defense?

Also this is based on the idea that the EU is not corrupt or as corrupt as Amurika, and yeah....

>>714753750
Burgerism.

>>714753830
Yeah, and when there is someone who obviously knows what they are talking about, they go quiet or start shitposting.

>>714753750
being a corporate shill without a soul

>>714751935
Who started calling it "Live Service Games" instead of "Games as a service"?

>>714753438
See >>714752615

Pretty much SKG can do no wrong and the alt right is using it to champion bigoted views. Terrible movement and terrible people, thank God journalists are reporting now on the evil within this movement.

>>714753523
Commodity exchanges and capital in the form of wage labor, lending and renting and mercantilism has existed for far longer but modern capitalist modes of production are more recent than you think.

>>714753750
Retardation or massively buckbroken.

I think the government should serve it's people, otherwise it is useless

>>714753872
>tell me what is the plan for when companies pay lawyers to your movement not that many, "they do it for free" type of defense?
What did pajeet mean by this?

>>714753150
>>714752071
>>714753864

>>714749139
Source for that quote? I read the article and couldn't find it. Even google doesn't turn up any sources, just your post here on 4chan. Not to accuse you of LARPing a persecution complex, but are you full of shit? You have to tell us if you are, those are the rules.

>>714753830
Publishers dont host their games in basements anymore. Almost the entire internet is hosted on cloud services like AWS at this point.

>>714753750
>what is this phenomenon called?
Amerigolemism.

>>714753880
Oh and don't forget my favourite transparent tactic, I really like it when they just repeat what they said after it's been addressed, refuse to read anything, loudly proclaim that they were right, then announce their departure from the thread only to seethe and attempt to derail the thread
An absolute classic

>>714753750
people like him genuinely think he might one day be in a position where he can reap the benefits of this inequity. He doesn't know that club disallows people like him.

Total Libertarian Death

>>714753684
>Digital good
Ah, so you admit they're goods.

>>714753579
>Diablo 3
Single player
?
Also you can just pirate single player games and remove the server checks so what's the problem?

>>714753824
>>714753747
don't forget
>noooooo what do you mean we should have low price roaming calls all throughout europe? this is literally impossible to do, and also prices will go up for other calls to compensate!
guess what happened

>>714753952
He keeps posting this quote he wrote himself and gets a dozen (You)s every time because there's nothing /v/iggers love more than performative culture war slop outrage.

>>714753973
Like the one that kept going on and on about the "liability" aspect with the recent law change to include digital products, only for someone to post the actual law that basically says private server software is excluded? Yeah, that shit is funny.

>>714753684
>Games are a service, you cannot physically touch a digital good
>digital GOOD

>>714754009
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>714753960
Indeed, it's why I laugh when I see that argument that their server architecture is special secret sauce that can't be replicated, because in reality it's just a configuration on a cloud server anyway

>>714754021
i can play diablo 3 by myself
>also you can just commit a crime
you are brown
post hands

https://youtu.be/ThglYlZEQ-A

>>714748820 (OP)
They shouldn't fuck with gamers.

>retards are so used to calling government regulation communism
>they're now incapable of using their two remaining braincells to see it doesn't make sense in this case

>>714749790
>gamergate 2
This implies gamergate actually ended anon.

>>714754106
>Nooo, don't break the law!
You are a subservient brown goblin.

I miss Savage, S2 games killed it in favor of the sequel, still bummed.

>maybe we shouldn't have lead in gasoline and child labor in the mines for the benefit of society as a whole
>YOU WANT TO STIFLE THE INNOVATIVE SPARK OF CAPITALISM YOU FUCKING COMMIE
>THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SOCIETY ONLY A COLLECTION OF INDIVIDUALS
>YOU WANT BASED CAPITALISTS TO TAKE A HIT ON THEIR PROFITS FUCKING SOCIALIST
>WHAT IF I BECOME A BILLIONAIRE HUH? THESE LAWS WILL HURT ME

>>714754167
but i pirate games all the time

>>714754130
Look buddy, when the government does something, it's socialist. And the more the government does it, the more socialist it is. And when the government does a lot of something, it's communism.

>>714751254
Legends say it was finnish autist who forced Moot to install captcha in the first place

>>714754130
/pol/tards and their consequences.

>>714754196
>>WHAT IF I BECOME A BILLIONAIRE HUH? THESE LAWS WILL HURT ME
I hate this line of thinking because it implies a) The only way to make money is to screw over your fellow man and b) That there is enough resources in the world to allow for such a thing.

>>714752824
it doesn't matter what gamergate was actually about. its opponents were always making moves while its supporters were desperately and pathetically scrambling to defend on every front. in the end, the media successfully painted it as a misogynist harassment campaign and that's how history will remember it.

>>714749790
>You know what this pro-consumer movement that helps everyone needs?
>That's right, more US culture war bullshit!
You need to kill yourself yesterday.

>>714754196
>child labor in the mines
Guess where the minerals in your PC came from retard

>>714754119

SKG jeets want to hurt Indies, don't forget that.

>>714754119
This is the one and only actual reason any game dev has ever been against this.
There frankly isn't any other reason that actually makes any sense.

>>714754281
>>714754196
I'm literally going to be a gamedev bilionaire myself and I support this

>>714754292
those are black, who cares

>>714754130
It's the same in most other situations they do it in too, they are just used to getting fucked by corpos in those areas, but are autistic nerds about their video games.

>>714753314
The (((Wikipedia))) article is the ONLY accepted narrative source now among normies, to them that is EXACTLY what happened and how it happened and anything else is 'nazi lies'
Only those who were there know what really happened and why
Fun fact: certain phrases/terms related to the truth of what Gamergate actually was (corporate and political interests creating political infighting to stop people from digging any deeper or talking about the corrupt and incestuous relations between them and gaming) are still shadowbanned across huge swathes of the internet

>>714754236
>Look buddy, when the government does something, it's socialist.
Except when it's BASED deregulation on the amount of sewage in water, more money for epic right wing corporations like Lockheed and Palantir, more bank bailouts, and a trillion dollars to Israel.

>>714752476
ASBESTOS IN EVERY WALL
LEAD IN EVERY WATER PIPE

>>714753684
Why do I have to download them to my hardwere?

>>714754298
please explain how this hurts indie devs

>>714754123
This

>>714752467
Then the news breaks that all their games likely have RCE exploits allowing full system takeover.

It's a bit silly that Vadim Scriptkiddoviç's MW zombie server running on Windows 7 uninterrupted for 15 years in a shed is more trustworthy than the newer offerings.

>>714754273
Lol

>>714754281
There is nobody who has amassed a billion dollars without exploiting their fellow man

>>714753524
not necessarily, I think they're just asking that developers must specify their intentions when selling games, even if that means 'this game will go offline permanently on 1st January 2030'. That's obviously a massively simplified example and I doubt we'll ever see something as straighforward as that, but my understanding is that SKG isn't about forcing live service games to remain playable after the reach end of life

>>714754273
>Devote your life to your kike overlords who continue to hoard wealth at the top and even as working conditions slowly deteriorate and inflation go up.
What a faggot

>>714754298
>SKG jeets want to hurt Indies
Only these ones.

>>714754119
Why the fuck is this autotranslated?

>>714751275
t: Roland from Poland

Why do you care so much? Nothing ever happens

>>714754359
Why yes lick those brushes covered in radium paint my dears, it's completely harmless! This will save us 0,0000013 shekels so it's very important!

>>714754448
West indies getting a free pass eh?

>>714749440
>Games are not physical products you can "own".
Exactly. They're just data. Which is why it's impossible to steal them, and all forms of piracy are entirely acceptable. Except the fucking government NIGGERS will come and rape you if you try to do your own shit with them. Fuck I hate the government and I hate all the retarded faggots who want the state as a solution problems caused by the state. Fuck every single reddit nigger bangwaggon cocksucker who supports this garbage. Fuck all of you. Fuck the jannies. Fuck this board. Fuck this site.
Anyways what's some good loli mind control porn (loli is the one doing the mind controlling)?

>>714754281
>The only way to make money is to screw over your fellow man
A billion dollars? Yeah, that is the case.

>>714754485
Do you think we have at least one Haitian nigga on /v/?

>>714754236
except when doing a lot something is sending a lot of money and weapons to Israel, that's freedom

The fact people care more about this than DEAD FUCKING BABIES is crazy.

>>714752498
the issue is that they have to break it because us gov wants to have access to user data.
so its not that they cant comply. its just that if they would actually anonymize it it would be next to worthless.
so they stand between two choices. either earn nothing and pay no fines or earn a lot and use some of that to pay fines.

>>714750476
he is probably false flagging. he knows gamers hate him after PoE drama and he already invested a lot of cash into making ai slop games.
on the other hand it is possible he is trying to gain some points at the same time he might be trying to play "oh if elon supports it then it must be bad" card. who knows. dude is unstable.

>>714751694
Go to bed Maldavius

>say nigger in game
>get banned in the first match
>"heh, should have read the ToS Chud"
>buy live service game
>play it for multiple years
>the player base winds down, the game goes EOL
>OMG YOU KILLED THIS GAME THAT I WASTED MY LIFE ON EU SAVE ME -ACK!

>>714751647
>>714751694
>>714751807
These posts show up every thread

>>714754594
A tricky issue, that one, I hate the idea of women choosing anything, but I love dead babies, what a confufu

>>714753750
America

>>714754456
it's youtube's newest dumbass idea

>NOOO you can't own your live services games!
If your live service game has subscription fees ON TOP of requiring to purchase a perpetual licensed copy, it's an intangible good and I own it.

We used to have the ability to host game servers ourselves back in the day because the devs released them as tools for the game. For some reason that stopped and now we want it back.
Why is this in any way being related to goobergate?

>>714752969
for the ultra rich working turns into a hobby.
but that wont be your average wagie 9-5.

>>714748820 (OP)
The industry is scared which means we can kill it

>>714754636
It's the same guy, he's working around the clock
Incidentally that furfaggot nepobaby jason what's his name who hates the intuitive and actively works against it, well he took some time off streaming for unrelated reasons, seems he's got a lot of free time on his hands at the moment, I hope he's having a nice break from the internet

>>714752969
>What type of hobbies do these rich people have?
I work with an old fart with 50+ million euros
His only hobbies are being at the casino and fucking pavement tier whores, he dresses like shit, looks like shit, eats like shit, and his family is in shambles.

>>714749790
>lefties
Never practice what they preach.
They will start burning LGBTQ+ flags and wearing pro-Elon Musk shirts if they can somehow "own the chuds" by doing that.

>>714753671
being able to self host doesnt mean you are allowed to make money with it.

>>714752160
They did it for the Dante’s inferno one too. IIRC sims one was where the bot broke repeatedly and gave signatures with error messages
For me it was Olivia from Bolivia

>>714754628
>the weak should fear the strong

>>714754690
>For some reason that stopped

There is no such thing as killing a game. You can always reverse engineer and implement your own server.

>>714754814
>Casinos and whores with a crumbling family
How the FUCK do people who are bad with money get to become rich?

>>714754594
The babies are dead. They can't be fucking, nor is there a reason to care about them aside from proper disposal/burial if desired by their loved ones. I am sorry/happy for your loss/prevention depending on your opinion.

>>714751216
>>714749785
>>714749376
>>714752532
you're arguing that this guy isn't black btw

Idk whats the problem on the dev/publisher side. Just invest 2 days of dev time to prepare for private servers and self hosting you can just deploy when you choose EoL/EoS is approaching.

>>714750828
especially indies wont get affected by it that much because they dont use expensive, cutting edge third party tools.
dont be over dramatic.

>>714754845
Is this an EOL plan?

>>714754879
Inheritance mostly, they had ancestry who worked hard, invested and their property increased in value faster than inflation could keep up with.
There's also the fact that once you have enough money, compound interest grows faster than you can spend it

>>714754815
And now the "based" demographic signed laws to hand over their corpse of a country to be carved and consumed by oligarchs because it "owns the libs"
Basically the problem is Americans.

nothing ever happens

>>714752532
Don't bother - you won't get a reply from this rage baiting faggot

>>714753301
agreed. it's easy to dismiss this as being just a gamer thing but it kind of makes sense that this would be the tip of the proverbial spear with respect to finally defining property rights around digital goods--publishers have been particularly aggressive about pushing the envelope with game "licenses" and have actively tried to muddy the legal waters by making a wide range of games pseudo-services. a lot of people are making definitive statements about what rights customers do or don't have, but the reality is it's murky and movements like this are incredibly important if people want any say in the regulatory framework that will surely spread to many more kinds of property

>>714754961
>And now the "based" demographic signed laws to hand over their corpse of a country to be carved and consumed by oligarchs
Did CNN tell you that?

>>714754869
Not what it's about mate. The issues is companies selling perpetual licensed copy of games and pretending they sell timed services with half-assed arguments.

>>714749790
The thought of people having agency to self-determine how they live and what they do is terrifying to those who depend on the status quo for financial and political security. They'll try to destroy you if there's any chance you could get out from under their boot, often doing so by conflating independence with vice.

>>714754961
What? Kamala was funded by oligarchs too? Literally had 2 billion information funding over Trump's 1 billion? Are you euros retarded? It was oligarch team Dem vs oligarch team Rep. It literally unironically didn't matter who won, not until Americana wake up and dismantle both.

>>714748820 (OP)
It's all so convenient isn't it? We're watching #StopKillingGames turn into Gamergate in real time.

>>714755039
It's not a service. You still own the game, you just can't play it

>>714754879
Anyone in a western country from two generations ago that wasn't a complete retard is at minimum a multimillionaire today because of how inflation, real estate values and the growth in the value of corporations has outpaced wage growth multiple times over.

>>714755095
This, just because you own a mcdonalds burger wrapper doesn't mean you're entitled to infinite access to the mcdonalds kitchen.
Once the service has ended, the product has been consumed

>>714754908
>you're arguing that this guy isn't black btw
They don't seem to be black.

>>714752454
I have yet to hear of those magical GaaS games made by small/indie devs

>>714754961
They consume nothing but propaganda and echo chambers, they have no idea what is going on.

>>714749837
Because as sad as it is americans have no rights against the big corpos

>>714755159
>mcdonalds analogy
You can't possibly be a more pozzed american than this, fucking hell.

>>714755159
Yeah but the petition seems to change that.
It aims to change what service means

>>714755090
NTA but Thiel and Yarvin's brand of technofascists are a whole new breed, talking about how the proles should have to surrender voting rights to the corporations the work for and shit

>>714755205
>no rebuttal
I accept your concession

>>714755223
It's scary times ahead for us..

>>714754908
that statue doesn't look black at all

>>714755170
black is a phenotype

>>714755290
lmao

>>714754119
— — — XD

>>714755090
Yeah, but voting for the right is, and always has been, you giving permission for the oligarchs to go full on in terms of taking away your protections, programs that help you, this time even cutting funding for pediatric cancer research, nuclear and air traffic safety, so they can fund tax cuts for themselves and Israel.

>>714752793
This post shows up in every thread too

>>714755307
>black is a phenotype
It's a genotype. Are Indians black? No. They are south asian.

>>714749376
>Same for the oldest of Chinese Emperors, Incan Kings, etc.
WE

>>714755223
My petition says I have a 10 inch cock but that doesn't make it so does it

>>714755307
bro I don't know if you're just getting stuck on the skin color or what, but the facial features of both of those statues are like 100% not fucking black

>>714755095
Which means they're scamming customers who should then take action to protect their rights.
>>714755159
Your warper has an expiration date. A perpetual licensed copy of a game doesn't.

>>714755249
While I get what your saying, calling them fascist is not correct. They are technoglobalists. Fascist do not exist in modern western countries and no Donald Trump is nowhere near not even by 10000 miles close to Italian Facismo. Retarded neoliberals have ruined the word fascist just as they did nazi. Similar to how retarded neocons ruined the word commie.

>>714755357
>black phenotype
>from africa
>not black
my god

>>714755413
they are 100% black

>>714754289
>IT DOESNT MATTER
anon you lost 15 million and more like 1 billion studying those pathetic losers after buying an anime porn website. all because of gaymergate. you'd have to be brain damaged to think that history will remember it as anything but that time a bunch of military contractors got salty enough to nationalize an anime website because they lost to basement dwelling retards

>>714753750
follower mentality. Most people just go with the flow in life and don't want to rock the boat too hard. Some of these people actually get mad if others don't do the same thing. They are literally mad at people for trying.

>>714755421
To be fair, Trump has been strangely signaling fascist aesthetics for a while now, along with Musk, even though he isn't a Nazi and loves Jews. I am sure he genuinely admires Hitler's ability to gain authoritarian dominance, which isn't actually a good thing for you if you are middle class (lol) or below.

>>714755260
Refute this
>>714755416

>>714754814
stupid rock lady

>>714753869
somebody thought they came up with a slam dunk argument to confuse the issue with this theme park analogy and are spamming it in every thread. publishers would LIKE to pretend to sell you a video game while actually selling you a "ticket" that can be revoked at any time for any reason. that's why this initiative exists. people are organizing to assert that such an arrangement is untenable, and come up with a legal definition which prevents companies from deciding after the fact what they sold you (even though you added the game to your cart and every representation was made that you were buying a video game)

Palestine needs this same kind of energy.

>Rewatched the Bip bop II episode after it to mentioned in this thread
>Ross' dad makes an appearance in a Civil Protection t-shirt and saves the day with his still functional floppy disk reader
You think he's proud of his son at this moment? He seems like a gamer and Ross' interests had to come from somewhere.

>THREADLY REMINDER
Americans pay so Israelis can have free public healthcare, but not for themselves, because their shabbat goyim politicians tell their proles that it's "socialist" and they eat it up and ask for more cuts.

>Mods autosaged the thread
Lmao
Not hired by the industry no sir
Important gaming landscape chasing law is being pushed and mods do anything to stop us from hurting poor billionare corpos

>>714754594
>>714755571
>MUH BROWN CHILDREN!!
Nobody gives a fuck

>>714753314
>>714754350
Funny thing is, Know Your Meme has more-or-less complete timeline of every event without portraying gamers as "evil misogynistic nazis"

>>714755649
Reminder that Kiwifarms, SteamDB and goddamn Gelbooru had stickies and banners promoting SKG, but /v/ jannoids deleted threads instead.

>>714755673
This is the shit I was talking about, bandwagoners that latch onto a supposedly just cause just to fucking harass people. We are just asking how SKG can actually be implemented in the real world, no need to get all bigoted and racist about it.

>>714755662
do they say that DoD took possession of 4chan from moot over it? do they say that feds dumped blackmail porn on /b/? because if they don't do either of these things theyre not just wrong, theyre liars

>>714755649
A year ago they just deleted the threads on sight so we're making clear progress

>>714755550
It's because unfortunately fascist aesthetics do appeal to a lot of people in concept, Italian fascism sounds cool when you have all these tiktoks displaying it as a hyper traditional masculine movement that keeps society straight, the effects and implications are very different in reality but the fantasy not so much. Trump is a snake oil sales man, he's not a fascist but he knows how to play audiences to the tune of his drum. Elon is a retard though and I don't understand sometimes how he's so wealthy. Anyways my point is Kamala Harris is a oligarch prop for the Democrats so if she won you could repeat the original op's text word for word but replace it with kamala and left wing.

>>714755751
Why are they doing this?

>>714755556
She's highly intelligent, I'll have you know.

>>714755673
All he had to do was use his mana gem.

>>714755821

>>714755803
>Italian fascism sounds cool when you have all these tiktoks displaying it as a hyper traditional masculine movement that keeps society straight
Funniest shit is that fascism is the most homoerotic political ideology in history when it comes to aesthetics

Funny how there is no arguments about the fact games that require one-time purchase are factually goods owned by the purchaser yet shills still pretend live-service games that require one-time purchase to access arent goods with optional service owned by the purchaser.

>>714755737
go to bed thor

>>714755803
As an autistic sociopath, everything Elon is doing is BASED from Elon's perspective and the few whose perspectives align with Elon, but should not be from the perspective of most people who are aware of their own interests. I wonder what happens to a robot like Elon when he takes acid.

>>714755821
Because its off topic activist garbage like scientology

>>714755310
Voting for the left is accepting globalism to a more extreme degree though. I reject globalist ideas and no I didn't vote for trump because I didn't vote at all, if the left was more populist I'd vote for the left nowadays, they aren't though. What you described as the right is true yeah but the left wing option isn't any better if you oppose globalism.

>>714754196

>>714755832
yes my emerald.

>>714756023
*jason, he does not derserve that title

>>714756090
Every single one of those things was a mistake.

>>714754119
So their argument it is just for planned obsolescence but for digital software, essentially?

>>714756039
We are still going global either way, this might even be accelerating it.

>>714756168
based lead huffer

>>714756210
Social security was a mistake too.

>>714755458
>black phenotype
>from africa
>not black
All eurasians are from Africa if you go far back enough. Eurasians evolved and drifted from their ancestors though. DNA samples we have from ancient Egypt clearly shows they are most similar to modern Egyptian and southern Arabian peoples such as Saudis, Yemenis etc. And Egyptians/Southern Arabians are like 90-95% west eurasian. Not sub saharan African.

>spend the least 2-3 weeks getting called a commie
>now it's the nazi stage
It's like a condensed version of my life.

Whoever autosaged this thread has now been cursed with unevenly heated food. May all you eat suffer from frigid insides and burning hot outsides.

>>714755821
Paid by corpos. Not even kidding

>>714756408
It is curious how diverse these attacks can be. Desperate flailing :D

>>714756431
The post that proved SKG is reddit

>>714756408
It is just cycling through labels to see which negative one sticks. Once a suitable one is chosen this will be used by journalists with glee.

>>714755821
The same reason they sell thread slots directly to advertisers and why the IP counter was removed

>>714750251
It had already been decided, quite a while ago.

https://www.tlt.com/insights-and-events/insight/cjeu-determines-that-the-supply-of-computer-software-is-sale-of-goods/

>>714756408
It could be very eye opening experience for normies, but they wont be let to nootice it.

>>714750313
Gamergate never went anywhere near official government capacity, it was the feminist twats that went to speak in front of the UN back then. This time it's different. They have nothing. It's too late.

>>714756408
Don't you know, having a real diversity is the dog whistle for real racist.

>>714754373
It kills them

>>714755821
Wasn't it revealed from the 4chan leaks/hacks that mods are on a payroll?

>>714755960
It seemed like the YMCA shit was genuinely trying to appeal to that kind of aesthetic, along with ironic homoeroticism. They are probably very aware of the aesthetics and the reactions to them that are imprinted on the minds of each group in society.

>>714756598
>This time it's different.
I sure hope so, because currently Game journalists are desperately trying to turn this into another gamergate.

>>714756408
Corpos are desperate af.
When it's on 4chan, they spam that we are commies.
Now they are trying to quickly slap it as nazi movement for normies and compare to GG shitshow.
It is utter desperation from the industry, educated my normie friends about this.
DON'T LET THIS BECOME LEFT VS RIGHT, THIS MOVEMENT ISN'T ABOUT THAT. IDGAF IF YOU ARE WN NAZI OR FUCKING TANKIE, DON'T TURN THIS INTO IDPOL SHIT THAT THE ELITE USES EVERY SINGLE TIME WHEN THEY ARE THREATENED

>>714756736
Yes, some of the mods are salaried
The question is where the money comes from. We're supposed to believe that 4chan has never been profitable but suddenly they have enough to pay RapeApe like 3k a month? Where's the money coming from?

>>714756354
That's a really pointless thing to say but I'm assuming that you just didn't know that almost all Africans are related to people who left Africa and then came back tens of thousands of years later in a back-to-Africa migration.
>DNA samples we have from ancient Egypt clearly shows they are most similar to modern Egyptian and southern Arabian peoples such as Saudis, Yemenis etc. And Egyptians/Southern Arabians are like 90-95% west eurasian. Not sub saharan African.
DNA in the region shows they are north-east African meaning they are directly related to Sudanese people(keep in mind Sudan is extremely diverse, the Greeks said it was the birth place of humanity etc). You know, where the first pharaohs came from.
Tut on the other hand was more mixed, but phenotypically he is extremely African looking. Aside from the nose bridge these two are very similar looking and that Arab man looks nothing like an ancient or modern Egyptian and a bit close to those fags Tut is rolling over in that artwork I previously posted.

>>714755960
It depends. Spanish troops look like some Tom of Finland stuff while I don't get that vibe from Nazi uniforms.

>>714756785
Game journalists are irrelevant, theirs are opinion pieces. Ross launched the government initiative and he will speak if necessary.

Autosaged thread huh? Jannies should kill themselves and leave a note for their mothers to link the cat box.

>>714751807
I know this is bait but I'll use it as an opportunity to say, the amount of people who have misunderstood and misrepresented the initiative is pretty good indication that a large chunk of people aren't able to understand what they're dealing with well enough to just vote with their wallet in their own interest.

>>714756803
>GG shitshow
I was here during GG, calling it a shitshow implies they didn't do the exact same shit. They didn't call us commies in the "4chan stage" if you wanna call it that, but they used other shit.

>>714755649
who cares as long as they don't delete the threads lmao the threads hit post limits anyway
cant stop wont stop

>>714756731
explain how

>>714757484
SKG death squads

>>714757484
It just does.