Thread 714768070

Ugh, so dystopian. Imagine having to live in an apartment like this in the heart of the Night City. What a hellish nightmare!

>>714768070 (OP)
Cyberpunk setting is flawed by design since it's just our dystopia but cooler.

>>714768070 (OP)
Our dystopia will be cooler in the future too.

>>714768070 (OP)
Is living in a studio comfy? I don’t really need a big house

Open-plan spaces are indeed hell.

>>714768231
No it won't. An apartment like this will cost like $90k/month in 2077. Instead, you will timeshare a studio apartment in a building built in the 60s with two Indians.

>>714768070 (OP)
They should have made V have 5 indian roomates to really drive home the feeling of dystopian despair.

>>714768070 (OP)
Bros. Are genital augments like Mr. Studd worth it.

>>714768473
Yeah, it'll make you burn with passion

>>714768216
Depending on how you take the etymology, it can't be a dystopia if it has been successfully put into practice.
>>714768386
>People unironically recreating and normalizing the sets of reality TV that were deliberately shaped to be psychological pressure chambers that encouraged conflict and mental illness
>They did this because they watched enough of that slop to start thinking that this was normal and it ended up being further exacerbated by reality TV shows about homes that pursued the same fucked up trends
Yeah it's crazy.

>>714768451
>Instead, you will timeshare a studio apartment in a building built in the 60s with two Indians.
this nigga thinks he will be able to afford more than living in a pod.

>>714768070 (OP)
i love how the apartment has a built in vending machine

>>714768070 (OP)
in the 80*s this future was dystopian since they assumed we'd be living in Star Trek by now. In our time Cyberpunk is a paradise

>>714768070 (OP)
I may as well ask here. considering buying it cause it's on sale but I tried it once a while back and it's like 80% of the game was just waiting for dialogues to end. I know "but muh rpg" but I want to play the game you know what I mean?

>>714771325
The game is more of a shooter than RPG, youll like it dudeanon

>>714768070 (OP)
I mean the owner of the apartment also has to kill people every day and risk his life to afford rent so yeah pretty bad

>>714771325
more like Borderlands

>>714768070 (OP)
V's (default) apartment is basically the Night City equivalent of an upper middle class home. Like, that shit would cost you thousands of eddies a month. And it still comes with the inconvenience of basically living in a fucking mall, surrounded by violent retards and rampant crime. You can also be evicted for literally any reason at any time with zero recourse, and all your shit inside said apartment would be forfeit.

The average Night City ped lives in a glorified coffin, a NY tier "studio" apartment that's basically just a closet, or a literal shanty. In fact, if I live in the CP universe and was forced to live in NC I would probably CHOOSE the shanty because it's the most space for the cheapest actual price. The only reason V is able to afford such nice digs is because they are a borderline psychopathic criminal gun-for-hire that has plot armor.

>>714768070 (OP)
In-lore the crime rate in NC makes Detroit and Brazil blush but in-game this isn't felt at all outside of gigs. You need mods like this https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/10395 to make it more lore accurate. Because in vanilla, NC is practically cleaner than fucking Seattle.

>>714771325
Gameplay is a mediocre shooter, cyberware bumps it up to pretty okay. It's not the greatest shooter ever but the combat is decently engaging and there is A LOT of it if that's your thing.

There is a lot of dialog too but you can largely skip most of it if that isn't your thing. V has a kind of "default" personality the game sets up so if you just choose the first dialog option or whatever you don't have to think too hard. That all being said, the story is CP's best asset so you are doing yourself a disservice from not engaging with it.

Also Corpo life path takes the story from 7/10 to 9/10 so I highly recommend starting with that one.

>>714768070 (OP)
you say this as if living in major american cities isn't horrible. Night city is basically NYC density with detroit level crime and southern california number of beaners and degenerates. only the most desperate would move to such a shithole

>>714771325
That's just how modern AAA trash is like. Follow the marker and listen to NPCs drone on and on.

>>714772840
>the story is CP's best asset
The story is utter dogshit when you think about it for 5 minutes.

>Keanu Reeves is phoning it into your head and he wants to bomb Jeff Bezos
>not Biotechnica, not Militech, not Kang Tao not any other equally evil faceless corp
>he wants to bomb Japanese Amazon for his personal 50 years old butthurt reasons
>when asked "why" he starts spouting some workers' rights spiel which is meant as a joke and you (V) are not meant to even listen to him, let alone take him seriously - you are meant to interrupt him and tell him to shut up when the option appears lol
>you are literally dying in 2 weeks yet you are forced to care about the wishes of ChatGPT tumor in your head
>as a final spit in your face, in the new DLC ending, even if you don't attack Arasaka they have an internal coup anyway and some other corporations take their place - meaning even Keanu Chungus' quest is fucking meaningless

Just complete gutter shit tier for something that dared market itself as an RPG.

>>714773817
>meaning even Keanu Chungus' quest is fucking meaningless
That was literally always the point

I think you completely missed the message of the story. Night City hates you, there is no good ending for anyone in that shit hole, that's basically the entire point the game was trying to make.

>>714773995
>it's supposed to be shit
Yes, thank you. Very cool.

>>714768070 (OP)
Now imagine the rent.

>>714772840
This s true, Corpo path is far more involved in the story and sets up V for a pretty good character arc

>>714774141
I take consolation in the fact that no matter how unbelievably shit the world is, I will never have so little self respect that I feel the need to interject random korean idol avatarfagging into completely and utterly unrelated threads.

I sincerely hope you seek professional help.

>>714768070 (OP)
The ttrpg went into alot of detail in the Night City Source book. To give the short version, you wouldn't have even a studio apartment like this if you weren't loaded. You were either living in something like this, or a abandoned building in the Combat Zone paying tribute to a gang.

>>714774373
>1 reaction pic
>avatarfagging
Mentally ill newfags ought to stay in their reddit containment site desu

>>714768070 (OP)
Why can't V be bothered to clean up? These trash bags have been by the door for weeks

>>714774570
>le REDDIT
Try harder, really apply yourself next time

>>714774885
Ok kurwa whatever, back to the toilet cubicle and scribble a better plot point next time.

>>714768292
If you live alone, sure.

>>714768070 (OP)
>cheap electricity, cheap entertainment and cheap calories everywhere
umm but you see CHUDDIE its bad because corporations bad, MKAY. Something something cyberpunk therefore you have to be a faggot punk contrarian

>>714773817
it aint the games fault you have shit taste as a edgy 11 year old teenager that you are

>>714775717
>edgy 11 year old teenager
But enough about kurwa hackfrauds that wrote this tripe in 1-2 years.

>>714768451
900k/day, lol
Hyperinflation is at hand

>>714775568
Reddit: the post

>>714775717
This guy is supposed to be a world famous artist that cannot be silenced, and became a legend. His chatgpt bullshit can't even supply a basic reason for anything he does.

If the game was getting at this at any point, that the secure your soul shit is fake, and these are hollow imitations, caricatures of a snapshot, that'd be one thing, but it present it as actually being him.

There are thousands of good reasons I could think of. Arisaka is a security company, not amazon (though they never talk about what any of these companies actually do in this shit game. Instead of showing "Oh yeah Biotechnica has horrible clone abominations clinging to life dumped into a sewer of human, and animal sludge." they have shoot up this random alley quest number seventy nine.) this secure your soul shit isn't there MO, soulkiller was a program to kill Netrunners.

Keanu Reeves thinks so. But V can view Arasaka as a good guy and trust his tech to save him.

>>714772840
>the story is CP's best asset
No officer I swear, I watch CP for the plot.

>>714771246
this, the only flaw of Cyberpunk 2077 is that its either at parity with how hellish our world is right now.. or actually much better.

V's initial apartment is bigger than my own and I live in a quadplex so its "cheap" but I bet somehow his is cheaper.

he has tons of opportunity for upward mobility, his world has tons of interesting things to go do and see.. its a total divergence from an actual dystopia, because I struggle to see how its actually worse than living in our world.

>>714771325
The gameplay is ok at best.
If you play CBP2077 you should be going for
>story
>characters
>voice acting
>exploration
>setting
>visuals
>music
>twists
>atmosphere
>mini-stories

This is the best combat CDPR has ever produced, and it's still not that good. You should probably try to enjoy stealth+hacking to avoid combat instead, as it's better done than the combat, though it's still far from perfect.

If you wanna play something for the gameplay/combat, you're better off playing something else.

>>714780287
It's already been pointed out ITT but, V isn't a "normal" NC resident and their POV is pretty skewed. A "normal" person living in NC lives in a fucking shack or a tiny closet sized coffin "apartment," which costs them 99% of their pay. Whatever is left is stolen by either the local gang demanding "tribute" or by some other gang/criminal stealing your shit every other week. You dodge bullets on your way to work (assuming you even have a job) every day. Getting killed by a random cyber-psycho or abducted by some scavvers and dissected alive are so common people rarely bother to report it, much less call the cops. The only food you get is essentially processed bug protein or lab grown "meat" packaged with enough sugar or caffeine to melt your liver. This isn't optional either, because actual food is so far outside your price range it might as well be a pipe dream. All of this is assuming you are lucky enough to have an actual job, which you will spend 18+ hours a day, every day, no breaks. Take a day off or get sick? Your ass is going on the street with the gangers and the scavvers.

Our world is bad, but NC/Cyberpunk is still a whole lot worse. It's the worst aspects of world turned up to 11.

>>714780287
What to do to afford your apartment? V has to murder and steal every single day. Its a given that they will die young, even before the Silverhand shit. V was living life in the fast lane. Irl, you probably have a boring email answering job you will do until 70.

>>714781881
Where does the 18hr a day job thing show up in game? Night City is absolutely filled with entertainment venues, even in the poorest parts of the city. People who work 18hrs a day with no breaks aren't going to be out clubbing.

>>714780287
CP2077 is a terrible representation of the cyberpunk genre, it was made by hacks. It's sad it's the only result when you search cyberpunk now.

>>714782161
>Where does the 18hr a day job thing show up in game?
Read basically anything having to do with Corpo jobs in game. Shit like "You only have to work 80 hours a week and you get 1 sick day a year!" is literally advertised by the Corps as a good deal.

It's safe to assume people lucky enough to have a job do still get some time off, but it's less than what our real world gets. Also the sheer number of people and density of NC plays a role. Like yeah, even the shit parts of the city have entertainment venues, but they only really cater to the like 10% of people in those districts who have expendable income and time to spend there. 90% of people in NC are basically stuck outside the system staring at a glittering neon dream that they can never really have. So much so that anyone who spends any time there becomes willing to do literally unspeakable acts of evil to their fellow Men for even the tiniest chance to get let "inside" that world for however long they can manage before someone does the same unspeakable evil to them, and tosses their corpse in the garbage.

>>714783092
so, basically just our world but in 25 years with how things are going.

90% of todays service economy is completely outside of the average worker in America's price range without going into debt or saving years and years for it.

this is, like I said, exactly like now, but better and worse than now, its just the logical endpoint of today, but you get cybernetics, which will not occur in the 25 years in the future when things are this bad in America.

>>714783559
>so, basically just our world but in 25 years with how things are going
Yeah, that's uh, that's what cyberpunk is as a setting my dude.

>>714783669
it isn't, it isn't supposed to be a prescriptive future.

if its an accurate representation of where we are going, its no longer a critique of things using extreme farce, its just an accurate read.

it lessens it, it makes it a depressing potentiality instead, its Brave New World with robot arms and more grunge.

this is fine but like I said, it means our world is already a dystopia and Cyberpunk no longer is a "dystopian future" its just "our future, but actually better, because our real future will likely be way more boring, way more soul crushing, and have zero 80's grunge future charm".

TLDR, Cyberpunk is actually more idealistic than our actual trajectory and likely a better world to live in than our world now+25 years.

real life will be significantly, way way worse than cyberpunk 2077. especially once all the whites are gone, oh boy

>>714784529
this, real life is a worse version (in the future) than CP2077.

by alot.

>>714783559
It saddens me that cybernetic augments are such a pipe dream. Sure, prosthetics are advancing substantially, but we're not going to be getting super robot arms that will allow you to lift a car and eyes with built in profilers

>>714784936
we could, but all innovations are now based around military and service economies, that's why any cool inventions or real leaps in tech have stalled.

its all to make the next Iphone have a dozen more useless features or the next bomb to do five billion things, or the drone or w/e

>>714768070 (OP)
Compare to Fifth Element apartment.

>>714785349
still better than a New York Appt for most workers there today.

i like the lucid dream aesthetic of night city

>>714768070 (OP)
It's your neighbors that are the problem. The worst part about cyberpunk settings is that they're crime-ridden shitholes.

>>714785578
it's fun to lie.

>>714772724
"masala studios"
SAAAR

>>714785762
buddy an Appt that big in New York that isn't literally off city would be like 5k a month, if not more.

>>714786073
lie